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 RustyNumber wrote:
Is there a size comparison anywhere for the new mediaeval foot knights against... Popular generic fantasy foot knights?


I imagine they'll be in scale with the rest of the range https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war. So too small if you want to fit them in with GW AOS / Fantasy stuff, but good if you have other historicals or LotR.

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 Dawnbringer wrote:
 RustyNumber wrote:
Is there a size comparison anywhere for the new mediaeval foot knights against... Popular generic fantasy foot knights?


I imagine they'll be in scale with the rest of the range https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war. So too small if you want to fit them in with GW AOS / Fantasy stuff, but good if you have other historicals or LotR.


Dang, thought they might be competing with GW for Bretonnians...
   
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 RustyNumber wrote:
 Dawnbringer wrote:
 RustyNumber wrote:
Is there a size comparison anywhere for the new mediaeval foot knights against... Popular generic fantasy foot knights?


I imagine they'll be in scale with the rest of the range https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war. So too small if you want to fit them in with GW AOS / Fantasy stuff, but good if you have other historicals or LotR.


Dang, thought they might be competing with GW for Bretonnians...

Yeah, despite the fact that fantasy is very frequently just a historical setting (in terms of technology, armaments, etc.), miniature companies have decided that never shall the twain meet.

My conclusion is that the historical market must be so large that it makes more sense to produce kits already produced in metal and plastic by other historical companies rather than produce something in a scale where they would be compatible with fantasy miniatures.

WGA could literally produce knights at half the cost of the plastic fantasy competition, but it just must not be worth it.

Thankfully there are a bunch of indie 3d mini sculptors who compete directly with GW for fantasy figures and getting them printed from Etsy shops is usually like 60-70% the cost of buying discounted GW.
   
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 Dawnbringer wrote:
 RustyNumber wrote:
Is there a size comparison anywhere for the new mediaeval foot knights against... Popular generic fantasy foot knights?


I imagine they'll be in scale with the rest of the range https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war. So too small if you want to fit them in with GW AOS / Fantasy stuff, but good if you have other historicals or LotR.


Our Knights are in scale with our other historicals like the Conquistadors, Late Romans, and Goths all of which are used by lots of people for fantasy. Here's the Conquistadors someone built alongside some WFB:




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Keep in mind that Warhammer Fantasy tend to be 28mm heroic which just means they are the same height as regular 28mm figures but with more grotesque proportions (short and squat)

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 Wargames Atlantic wrote:
 Dawnbringer wrote:
 RustyNumber wrote:
Is there a size comparison anywhere for the new mediaeval foot knights against... Popular generic fantasy foot knights?


I imagine they'll be in scale with the rest of the range https://footsoreminiatures.co.uk/collections/barons-war. So too small if you want to fit them in with GW AOS / Fantasy stuff, but good if you have other historicals or LotR.


Our Knights are in scale with our other historicals like the Conquistadors, Late Romans, and Goths all of which are used by lots of people for fantasy. Here's the Conquistadors someone built alongside some WFB:


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Keep in mind that Warhammer Fantasy tend to be 28mm heroic which just means they are the same height as regular 28mm figures but with more grotesque proportions (short and squat)


I'd point out those GW models are from the start of 6th Edition so 24 years ago, and GW models have largely grown since. But then the models GW is selling for the Old World are from that era, so I guess it balances out. Haha.
   
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Yes I think most people are thinking about Old World at this point - and they are...erm...old.

I doubt we'd ever go 32mm but who knows. Maybe someday. I'm not personally a fan.
   
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Thank you. Knowing they scale with your current historicals answers all my scale questions. I will definitely buy some.


 
   
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CIVIS ROMANUS SUM. {I am a citizen of Rome} Sorry about all caps, but the Romans did not have lower case.

For your ancient civilians/gangers needs: https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/might-of-rome/products/citizens-of-rome

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Ohh nice! I need them Roman civs.


 
   
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From the Beast of War salute coverage

Graham from Grey For Now Games talks to us about the amazing new terrain for Guards Of Traitor’s Toll coming from Sarissa Precision for this new game. This is the first time that this terrain has been seen here at Salute 2024! It looks ace AND the miniatures from Wargames Atlantic.




looks like those those guards and city folk will be a must buy (hopefully i can blend in the Archon Woodhaven minis too)

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I remember you saying Wargames Atlantic were making plastics for another company’s game, but that you couldn’t say anything about who. Dropfleet Commander just revealed some new plastic ship sprues coming out later this year—are they made by you?

   
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 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I remember you saying Wargames Atlantic were making plastics for another company’s game, but that you couldn’t say anything about who. Dropfleet Commander just revealed some new plastic ship sprues coming out later this year—are they made by you?


Yea those 100% look like the most recent WGA sprues, I have WW1 british in my hands right now. Same injection port, same channels, same part number panels

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 Ancestral Hamster wrote:
CIVIS ROMANUS SUM. {I am a citizen of Rome} Sorry about all caps, but the Romans did not have lower case.

For your ancient civilians/gangers needs: https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/might-of-rome/products/citizens-of-rome


Woo hoo! People have been crying out for civilians of all sorts and these guys can work for all sorts of genres and settings from ancients to the grim darkness of the far future.




 
   
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 Eilif wrote:
I'll be voting for walkers. This is essentially an imperial guard army kickstarter and if the vehicle (which I was never impressed by) is not to be, then a not-Sentinel is the most sensible choice.

Why would something that already has acceptable quality kits on the market (granted, overpriced and no longer consistent with the Damned's aesthetic) be the most sensible choice over a not-Chimera, not-Aurox, or not-Taurox transport (none of which has a good-looking plastic kit) or a not-Leman-Russ (barely acceptable plastic kit) or not-Carnodon (resin only) tank? I think WA would really struggle to make a walker look better for the Damned than the old sentinels, while there is massive scope for improvement in transports and tanks.
The only real argument I can see for a walker is that as a smaller vehicle it might be possible to squeeze in onto one sprue.

   
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Those citizens of Rome could come in handy for Arena of Blood.

Of course I'd really like to see a company produce a similarly variable set for gladiators, but this at least adds options.
   
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The Roman civilians aren't what I think of when I think of civilians. They're more of a rabble / peasants-with-pitchforks style mob.

Since they're practically non-existent, I guess the consensus is that plastic unarmed civilians wouldn't sell, and perhaps that's true - I have no business sense about these things. I can find some metal unarmed sci-fi civilians who are basically strolling about conducting their business. It still strikes me as a bit odd that unarmed civvies panicking and running in terror seem not to exist at all.

Is that because they would come too close to showing the real horrors and costs of war? I'm just talking about functionaries running away with terrified expressions, not families being blown apart.

Speaking of which, I used to use this heroclix mini (minus the #15 post) in Mars Attacks games whenever a soldier got blasted by a Martian ray gun, substituting it for the slain soldier figure for about a turn before removing it:



It added a thematically apt cinematic flair to the game. It's also about as far as I'd want to take a literal depiction of violence on the tabletop, but in the tongue-in-cheek context of Mars Attacks, where Martian laser weapons instantly and bloodlessly reduce people to cartoony skeletons, it was fun.

(The actual figure is supposed to depict the moment Dr. Manhattan got atomized in an experiment, after which he reassembled his atoms and gained godlike powers. It's a pretty unusual subject for a heroclix figure, but I guess it was included in their Watchmen releases because it's an iconic moment in the original comics.)



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 Talking Banana wrote:


Is that because they would come too close to showing the real horrors and costs of war? I'm just talking about functionaries running away with terrified expressions, not families being blown apart.



I'm pretty sure there just isn't much of a market, they don't really have much place in a war game, unless it'ssome sort of theme scenarioinvolving a seige or something. So you are looking at diorama makers and rpg players, who would need a box at most. That said, Archon have a city folk pack with a bunch of medieval style civvies, and reaper has some in Bones as well. The Perrys (amongst others) also do civilians. But all of the above are more stolling about, not running in panic.
   
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 Dawnbringer wrote:
. I'm pretty sure there just isn't much of a market, they don't really have much place in a war game, unless it'ssome sort of theme scenarioinvolving a seige or something. So you are looking at diorama makers and rpg players, who would need a box at most. That said, Archon have a city folk pack with a bunch of medieval style civvies, and reaper has some in Bones as well. The Perrys (amongst others) also do civilians. But all of the above are more stolling about, not running in panic.


I primarily collect sci-fi miniatures, Dawnbringer, so I wasn't aware of these civilian options for fantasy. It's still interesting to me that fleeing civilians seem not to be a thing, regardless of genre. It's not hard to imagine scenarios where protecting them / guiding them to safety could be primary or secondary mission objectives, or where their presence as an unpredictable A.I. faction could complicate things. There are plenty of minor civilian characters who desperately navigate battlefields in 40K fiction, after all.

I'm not arguing that terrified civvies should be present in every battle, or even in most battles. But they're not even present as an occasional element.

Mostly they appeal to me as dioramic hints at a larger, more complex universe than the immediate Us / Them conflict of the battlefield.

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There are also the medieval fantasy civilians for Guards of Traitor's Toll, posted by Orlando above, apparently also by WGA


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 lord_blackfang wrote:
There are also the medieval fantasy civilians for Guards of Traitor's Toll, posted by Orlando above, apparently also by WGA


No integral bases? Interesting.
   
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 Talking Banana wrote:
The Roman civilians aren't what I think of when I think of civilians. They're more of a rabble / peasants-with-pitchforks style mob.



I'm guessing they've been mainly been produced to go with Footsore's Gangs of Rome, hence being armed.

 
   
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Love the fantasy civilians. Those look great.
   
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Caballero/Reconquer miniatures have a “fleeing villagers” set, which is medieval. It’s only 6 minis, which I have, but they’re only available through Etsy/home printing? I could be wrong.

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Loopstah wrote:
 Talking Banana wrote:
The Roman civilians aren't what I think of when I think of civilians. They're more of a rabble / peasants-with-pitchforks style mob

I'm guessing they've been mainly been produced to go with Footsore's Gangs of Rome, hence being armed.
Yes, that's right. They were sculpted for Gangs of Rome, but Wargames Atlantic could not sell them separately until the Gangs of Rome kickstarter was fulfilled. It's similar to how WGA sculpted the WWII German sentries and British WWII SAS & Commandos for the 02 Hundred Hours Starter and expansion boxes, and now sell said figures separately.

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It semms pretty certain that "new vehicle/walker" is going to win the poll in The Damned campaign.

Is there a possibility of still getting the power armor in plastic, post campaign?

It looks amazing and I want to make some wasteland Knights
   
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