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Semper wrote: or name Roboute emps (and have someone to roar 'for the emperor!' for once again).
You just killed three neckbeards due to ragesplosions with that comment. I hope you're happy.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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Me, I'd like to see a massive internal war as various Imperial factions slugged it out to be the new top dog (Welcome, Brawl Fans, to Inquisition War II!)


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Semper wrote: or name Roboute emps (and have someone to roar 'for the emperor!' for once again).
You just killed three neckbeards due to ragesplosions with that comment. I hope you're happy.


More loyalist's dead the better for me.

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I think the best thing that could happen in 6th edition is finding out what the hell is going on with all the primarchs!

Revive the Lion, revive Gulliman, find out where Russ has gone. As well as telling us about the epic wars going on in regards to traitor and loyalist legions. Some more primarch vs primarch would go down pretty well. Perhaps wipe out a traitor primarch? since there's so few loyal ones left

I hate sitting here for years not knowing what's going on!

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daBIGboss wrote:I think the best thing that could happen in 6th edition is finding out what the hell is going on with all the primarchs!

we know where most of em are,
the ones that turned to chaos are in the EoT in the form of daemon princes.
the good primarchs that are missing are apparently in the EoT hunting said daemon princes
horus's soul was obliterated from the warp, hence why he cant be resurrected.
some good primarchs are simply beaten up or sleeping, im looking at you rowboat girlyman
the only primarchs that are truly missing are second and sixth, we know there dead but thats about it

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As I see it there are 12 Primarchs still alive (possibly 14 but unconfirmed)

Of the 12 that are known to be alive (if in a bad way) 6 are Traitorous Deamon Princes, and 6 Are loyal.

GW could easily revive/find the loyal Primarchs and Resurrect the EoM in just 1 edition using several of the ideas previously mentioned here and brush it all away by jumping on a couple of hundred years.

These 7 (6 Primarchs and EoM) would then easily be a match for the Chaos Enhanced Traitorous Primarchs and opens the doors for some Epic Battles.




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Reviving the Primarchs? And you thought Special Characters were out of control now.

Marneus Calgar is referred to as "one of the Imperium's greatest tacticians" and he treats the Codex like it's the War Bible. If the Codex is garbage, then how bad is everyone else?

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According to the fluff the Primarchs were only a stones throw away from a GD in power (more so). It's their command/abilities that take them apart.. but in a game of apoch what difference would it make?

Hell.. you can ALREADY use Angron.. and he's not exactly game breaking even in normal tabletop 40k. He's just a Bloodthirster on krak. Same as any other character or monster.. just throw enough at them and eventually something will stick. Really the only ones that'd be overpowered in a tabletop environment would be the psykers but like only three of them were psykers. Horus, Mortarion(?) and Magnus as far as I know and i'm not sure about Mort.

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If the Emperor dies won't Terra be swarmed by all kinds of Daemons?

GW should just focus on expanding the already established fluff.

   
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Medium of Death wrote:If the Emperor dies won't Terra be swarmed by all kinds of Daemons?

GW should just focus on expanding the already established fluff.


I think that's the crux of the issue in this thread though, that once we're past 999.M41 we're going to start seeing the failure of the Golden Throne in a more catastrophic manner.
   
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Nazgren wrote:
daBIGboss wrote:I think the best thing that could happen in 6th edition is finding out what the hell is going on with all the primarchs!

we know where most of em are,
the ones that turned to chaos are in the EoT in the form of daemon princes.
the good primarchs that are missing are apparently in the EoT hunting said daemon princes
horus's soul was obliterated from the warp, hence why he cant be resurrected.
some good primarchs are simply beaten up or sleeping, im looking at you rowboat girlyman
the only primarchs that are truly missing are second and sixth, we know there dead but thats about it


Yeah I'm aware where they are roughly, such as in the warp and all. But I want specifics. Details of brawls, looted demon planets.
Gulliman can stay asleep, he sucks anyway. I think it would be cool as having the Lion or Russ back

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n0t_u wrote:What's more likely to happen is that some super duper special smart Ad mech guy is going to show up with his magic wrench say a long forgotten prayer thing and wave it and the Golden Throne will be as good as new.

Or to make it more grimdark he manages to repair it a little to keep it going but no one knows how long it will last.


That's a hint to Codex Adeptus Mechanicus

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Medium of Death wrote:If the Emperor dies won't Terra be swarmed by all kinds of Daemons?




No, thats the hype preached by the Ministorium to keep the faithful praying and giving thanks. "Worship the Emperor because he keeps the government together and runs the biggest lighthouse", doesnt have quite the same ring to it as "Worship the Emperor lest your soul be consumed by the Warp."
The life of death of the Emperor has no bearing on the fate of human souls, nor does the Emperor keep daemons in the warp. They are kept there by their inability to remain in realspace unless summoned of the planet is close to/part of a chaos vortex.

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Cypher will kill the Emperor plain and simple, then all Hell will break lose.

So what did a squad of Fire Dragons say to the ork stompa?
MUhahahahah Apocaliptic Explosion!!!

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whrextheimpaler wrote:Cypher will kill the Emperor plain and simple, then all Hell will break lose.


Disagree, Cypher is a Fallen Angel and seeks redemtion as Luther did when he struk down the Lion. Cypher is on his way to free the Emperor from the Gloden Tomb, ops sorry Throne.



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The Russ is nursing the infant starchild in the eye of terror, and he will return - but if he does, that means it's Ragnarok (AKA The Wolftime), so no more space puppies. That probably means no more Imperium by association.

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The wolftime is the end of the universe as we know it. This does not necessarily mean the end of the universe just a really big shake up.



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daBIGboss wrote:
Nazgren wrote:
daBIGboss wrote:I think the best thing that could happen in 6th edition is finding out what the hell is going on with all the primarchs!

we know where most of em are,
the ones that turned to chaos are in the EoT in the form of daemon princes.
the good primarchs that are missing are apparently in the EoT hunting said daemon princes
horus's soul was obliterated from the warp, hence why he cant be resurrected.
some good primarchs are simply beaten up or sleeping, im looking at you rowboat girlyman
the only primarchs that are truly missing are second and sixth, we know there dead but thats about it


Yeah I'm aware where they are roughly, such as in the warp and all. But I want specifics. Details of brawls, looted demon planets.
Gulliman can stay asleep, he sucks anyway. I think it would be cool as having the Lion or Russ back


I vote for both and a giant brawling between them!!! That'd be fun!!!

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Toast36 wrote:
whrextheimpaler wrote:Cypher will kill the Emperor plain and simple, then all Hell will break lose.


Disagree, Cypher is a Fallen Angel and seeks redemtion as Luther did when he struk down the Lion. Cypher is on his way to free the Emperor from the Gloden Tomb, ops sorry Throne.


LOL and by freeing him your saying killing, but yes you are right.

So what did a squad of Fire Dragons say to the ork stompa?
MUhahahahah Apocaliptic Explosion!!!

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These things have been said again and again, but they will not advance the storyline and completely not make the emperor dead.

   
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Toast36 wrote:The wolftime is the end of the universe as we know it. This does not necessarily mean the end of the universe just a really big shake up.



The way I see the Wolftime's is, it is like Norse (which space wolves are deffinately based off of) Ragnarok, which in and of itself is not a true end of the world iirc but a complete game changer-no pun intended-where god's die and the world goes up in flames, with a bunch of nasty beasties joining in for the fun too. Now if this does hold true, The All Father(who is Odin/The Emperor) dies, wherein Thor and many others live.


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would that be good... yes probably i would like to see it happen.

will it happen... no!

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thenoobbomb wrote:These things have been said again and again, but they will not advance the storyline and completely not make the emperor dead.


Yeah they will, just as soon as someone in marketing decides it's a good way to move a few million more units.


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No, he isn't. Stop asking this every time a new edition is announced.



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English Assassin wrote:No, he isn't. Stop asking this every time a new edition is announced.


We all keep hoping that GW will one day take a hint and advance the time line. It's not likely, but one can always hope. Though, personally, I'm hoping for enough cash to just BUY GW and change it to suit my whim.

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Orlanth wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:If the Emperor dies won't Terra be swarmed by all kinds of Daemons?




No, thats the hype preached by the Ministorium to keep the faithful praying and giving thanks. "Worship the Emperor because he keeps the government together and runs the biggest lighthouse", doesnt have quite the same ring to it as "Worship the Emperor lest your soul be consumed by the Warp."
The life of death of the Emperor has no bearing on the fate of human souls, nor does the Emperor keep daemons in the warp. They are kept there by their inability to remain in realspace unless summoned of the planet is close to/part of a chaos vortex.


Except that the rulebook states that the Emperor is keeping Daemons at bay. This isn't told from an in-universe view either, but from our, the all-knowing reader's, perspective. Then there's the issue of the hole in reality caused by Magnus that the Emperor is currently plugging up as well. If he dies, the Daemons have access to a massive warp rift in the heart of the Imperial Palace. I'm sure we can agree that that'd feth the Imperium over beyond pretty much anything else.

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isnt the emperor keeping demons at bay via the webway?. they were rebuilding it and the emperor had to sit on the golden throne creating a psychic barrier in the webway to prevent demons flooding into it and from there the imperial palace. thats why maladite or whatever he is called had to give his life while the emperor was fighting horus.

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Advancing the storyline?!?!? HERESY!!!!!

Unfortunately yes.

GW are to big cowards to ever advance the story.

If the big Man himself actually can communicate with his subjects he could guide Vulkan back to terra to fix the chair.

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AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Orlanth wrote:
Medium of Death wrote:If the Emperor dies won't Terra be swarmed by all kinds of Daemons?




No, thats the hype preached by the Ministorium to keep the faithful praying and giving thanks. "Worship the Emperor because he keeps the government together and runs the biggest lighthouse", doesnt have quite the same ring to it as "Worship the Emperor lest your soul be consumed by the Warp."
The life of death of the Emperor has no bearing on the fate of human souls, nor does the Emperor keep daemons in the warp. They are kept there by their inability to remain in realspace unless summoned of the planet is close to/part of a chaos vortex.


Except that the rulebook states that the Emperor is keeping Daemons at bay. This isn't told from an in-universe view either, but from our, the all-knowing reader's, perspective. Then there's the issue of the hole in reality caused by Magnus that the Emperor is currently plugging up as well. If he dies, the Daemons have access to a massive warp rift in the heart of the Imperial Palace. I'm sure we can agree that that'd feth the Imperium over beyond pretty much anything else.


I can't stand it when people go against the grain of what GW has laid down in stone. The Emperor is a God. The Emperor is still alive in death. The Emperor is keeping demons at bay. Facts. Not debatable. This information as you said is laid out in the rule book and in countless other sources.

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