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They don't look bad painted up, I guess I just don't get their appeal. If I wanted something that flat, I'd just get a mat that's easier to store/transport and requires no painting. I backed the secret weapons boards because of the raised detail, so these just kind of fall in the gap of not doing either role well.

Well firstly they only were they half the price of the tablescapes boards (at kickstarter rates) but the real reason I backed this one is that they are 2x2 boards which means I can use the full 6x4 layout on my 6x3 table. The 6" overhang on each long edge is no problem with these boards and I suspected it might be with the tablescape boards.

There's probably more relief of the G&G boards than you can easily see from those photos. Yes I've added etched brass for manhole covers etc which were sculpted on the tablescape tiles but otherwise the detail isn't bad.

Of course we have yet to see if G&G can actually fulfil the rest of the board styles in their KS.

They look very nice, Maccwar!

Panic, they've been really communicative with me and I am happy that they so quickly refunded me. No hard feelings here, and I do think the boards are a great value, I just won't have use for them personally at this point.

I did talk two friends into backing and I believe they are hanging tight, so we may still be able to take some pics with the DzC boards... I think they're guessing September delivery for DzC now, but that sounds somewhat optimistic given the time it took to get the Hawk Wargames 28mm boards delivered.

I have no hard feelings either; I received my refund within a week of asking, and the boards ARE nice once properly painted (Maccwar's is a perfect example). Whether they are £140 nice at retail is another question, that only time will tell.

All that said, I'll be avoiding G&G products in the future. I just don't like the way they've messed backers about, with repeated missed dates, cringeworthy excuses, and at times, seemingly, outright lies. The lack of primer on 'prepainted' boards was the last straw for me.

I had a chance to talk to Sam (I think?) at GenCon. There booth was actually pretty busy whenever I walked by selling the brushes.

Pretty much just the same excuses. He even showed me a video on his phone of I guess the factory workers painting in a flooded factory. Like, wearing those rubber waiters fly-fisherman use, and painting in waist high water. I'm not sure whether to be amused or sad about that.

He kept saying that my DZC board would ship next month (September).

While I certainly don't like the delay, I've kinda written it off in my mind, so if it actually shows up it'll just be a nice bonus surprise.

 Maccwar wrote:
Some good news for all you backers - if you put in a little time an effort the boards paint up pretty nicely.

From this:-



to this:-



I'm not done yet either, still more detailing and weathering to go.

Of course it would have been nice if the boards had been painted all over to start with - that would have saved me some time and effort.

Can you post some of those images here. It's game related so Dakka can host. I cant see photobucket, it constantly wants to update the advertising and never gets around to the images.

Just realised I forgot to update this thread with my progress. I have now finished the boards themselves and I am back to working on the scenery to go on them. Here is what I have done.

Using masking tape I marked off parking bays to turn the park tile into a parking lot:-



I then made some inserts so that I can also use the tile as a park or a graveyard.





I have added brass drain and manhole covers to the board for a bit of extra detail.



And here is how things look now.



Meanwhile I can't believe that G&G still hasn't delivered the second wave of boards. I now count myself lucky to have got these.

Those look excellent

(and I can believe they haven't delivered anything else yet, disappointed though),

You've done a great job on that.

I can absolutely believe that they haven't delivered anything else, though...

Anima Boards have been arriving this week, people posting comments on the KS page and photos
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153550615915281&set=a.10150160765245281.339190.683445280&type=1&theater

 judgedoug wrote:
Anima Boards have been arriving this week, people posting comments on the KS page and photos
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153550615915281&set=a.10150160765245281.339190.683445280&type=1&theater

Judge, how's your massive Terminator board going?

3x + Fields of War pledger here, so lots of investment in this KS. As for the Anima, it arrived today!

While I like the board, painting is incredibly inconsistent. Although on Judge's link, the color inconsistencies look consistent...which also supports comments on the KS page. So while nice, not nearly as finished as promotion pictures.

Boards are far more finished than the Hawk, but as mentioned above, the paint job is bizarre. You can easily see where the sponge was blotted, looking like polka dots with a variety of shades. The boards themselves are also not consistent, with ample spillage over the edges and even excess onto the underside. Obviously has no bearing on usability, but a sign of a professional touch. There was also a total oversight on the straight board tile because it has no black indents to mark off a road edge of a corresponding tile.

End of the day, I will make some improvements and it will serve as nice basis for both a fantasy or grimdark cityscape. Being more of a surrounding and terrain gamer, I personally have a lot of fantasy stuff I'm very excited to set up on it.

So worth the $100? Absolutely. But even as being the last person to complain about my toy soldiers, I do not appreciate when a company is not transparent or accurately representing their products. They also are not even replying to respectful PMs on KS, so while I know they've taken abuse, they have totally circled the wagons.

Now we wait for the other boards! Pictures below.

Terminator board project has stalled while I finish up some Bolt Action projects, but soon I'll work on it! Have the nuclear playground, bricks, skulls, etc, all ready to go

Anima Boards are fantastic.

Whilst I was away running a Battle of Kursk event for Bolt Action and my FLGS, a couple of my buds broke 'em in with a game of Frostgrave.

Those do look quite good, judgedoug! Better than I expected with terrain on them and much more usable. Good to see the final product is (mostly) a positive at least!

I really hate to say it, but those boards really do look pretty good.

How sturdy are they?

Most likely still not something that I would buy, but it does look like something that would look very good, with a bit of repainting it would look excellent.

The Auld Grump

Looking at those boards, and assuming that's how they come out the package;

I'd paint the square cobbles in a different colour to the irregular ones, and pick out the detail areas. As it stands, it's a big expanse of grey. With a bit of work, it'll look really good.

I'd just like... something :(

*waits for hellscape board*

:(

 SilverMK2 wrote:
I'd just like... something :(

*waits for hellscape board*

:(

Me too...
But as Helldorado is basically discontinued in Europe, I'm still thinking what to to with that special design.

Yeah,
I got my two urban boards just waiting on anime and he'll.

Got a quick update from G&G today

Panic...

Y'know, every time you sign your posts, I think it's a statement rather than a signature.

It's particularly appropriate for a thread like this. Even knowing to look out for it, I still keep thinking it's a declaration and to expect something awful to be referenced.

To be fair to G&G - they gave me a refund extremely quickly (within a day I think?) of asking for it. But it does hurt that the two friends I talked into backing for DzC boards are still waiting, and I'm not sure if they'll actually have their boards in 2015 even though it's next in line...

Dear backer,
Your item has been returned to us due to the size of the package we where told the size of the package would not be an issue initially as EUPEX
has no problem with it but AUPEX (sister delivery service) has...
Your original package was 65cm x 65 cm x 20m volume metric weight 17.5KG.
We are going to break them down into 6 packages. 65cm x 65cm x 3.1cm and resend them out to you.
We have been working behind the scenes in what was suppose to be a smooth process has lead to a few upsets and frustrations on our part.
Once repacked we will send it out next week via AUPEX and will be with 4-8 working days. Please let me know when you get these. I
will email you once your battle boards have been dispatched.
Sorry about this everywhere else in the world is ok and we have not had an issue like this. Will shoot you out an email next week,
Best,
Alice
Games & Gears LLP

Dear backer,

We will get back to you this Friday on your Anima set. Hopefully by then we have a tracking number and should be with you next week or at least by the week after thank you for your patience in this matter. We are now below the AUS girth dimension maximum level for all packages (even though we were told the original size was good initially.). We are just seeing if AUPEX tracking numbers can be tracked via AUS post site.

All packages are numbered and you should get these packages:

Anima 1
Anima 2
Anima 3
Anima 4
Anima 5
Anima 6
Clips Pack

Total of 7 packages.

We are going to move the rest of the next wave of boards and trays to a ship wire warehouse in Australia so like with Urban Wars you will be the first to get the remain boards left if you have backed them as well.

We apologise for any inconvenience this may have caused, We understand there is a lot of excitement for these high end next gen boards and we are very eager for you to get your gears asap.

Don't have a tracking number yet, and that second email was on the 14th, but I'm still hopeful

Just a brief update on the Hellscape boards from the comments to update 113:

Games & Gears on January 21
@Gideo, If we cannot fulfill the Hellscape you will get a full refund. We will then destroy the boards and molds for Hellscape.

Games & Gears on January 21
Hi Ed, thanks for your comment.
On your great question on Hellscape. We have come to the decision with a heavy heart and not taken lightly that we need to wrap this KS up. It's been a huge struggle for us and our amazing backers in which the vast majority have stuck with us through thick and thin and the only KS that we have done with these huge delays, which has been really hard on us, we don't like delays as much as the next person. I think we mentioned before too many deadlines were way too over ambitious... as most KS's are over 12-24 months late on average without the huge challenge we have had to face. With great hindsight we should have quickly given out a 12-18 months delayed projection post floods... but we did not know any better as we never experienced a force majeure before and how to cope, relay info effectively, accurately and soundly post a situation like this. We fell into all the traps most people do who try to desperately pick themselves up and think we can sort it all out over night so to speak.. doesn't happen with an act of God.
It's a decision from the top. Fortunately G&G is a bigger beast as a business than before and although we will do as much as we can to support the battle board product line as a whole wave of gamers love them and have done quite well to our peers to who the same stuff. If we cannot deliver Hellscape in this format of a hard plastic high end battle board, which we are hoping to do. We will offer the FULL refund as promised.
We may revisit it in the future in another non plastic material. But nothing planned as yet. As 2016 products are sorted and many to be released direct through retail and more.
We are forever great full to our backers in bringing these great products to life and we hope Hellscape too. But we have the end this KS, move on and also do right with backers and offer a full refund if we cannot deliver Hellscape by the promised time



Because apparently in some universe this makes sense...

So any news about the side trays?

I really don't think that 'most Kickstarters are 12-24 months late' is anywhere near accurate.

What they really meant to say was 'We screwed up. Again. Never, ever back our Kickstarters'.

After their double ended brush fiasco, I had already come to that conclusion.

The Auld Grump

Yeah,
I got their double ended brushes and paint racks and they are pretty good.

I've received 3 of my 4 boards.
The quality of the plastic is great.

They fill a nice spot in the market, minor 3D detail that's flat for terrain.

IMO they should stop with the preprinted!
The quality of the paint is bad and it doesn't really add anything to the product that can't be achieved better by a hobbyist within a hour.

In fact making sure the old paint is primed before reprinting makes painting these take longer.


Panic...

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
I got their double ended brushes and paint racks and they are pretty good.

I've received 3 of my 4 boards.
The quality of the plastic is great.

They fill a nice spot in the market, minor 3D detail that's flat for terrain.

IMO they should stop with the preprinted!
The quality of the paint is bad and it doesn't really add anything to the product that can't be achieved better by a hobbyist within a hour.

In fact making sure the old paint is primed before reprinting makes painting these take longer.


Panic...

Every single one of the double ended brushes bought locally ended up being used for glue - the quality was bottom of the barrel, not top of the line.

Buying six unusable brushes is not 'pretty good'.

A quick look online shows that the local group was not unique in this experience - they were just plain bad brushes.

And more expensive than Rosemary & Company brushes, even with the discount.

So they were expensive bad brushes that we had to wait months for.

Rosemary & Company is a much better deal - a lower price on excellent brushes.

The Auld Grump

I am really hopeful they'll deliver quality DzC boards - the game really would benefit from these, and those were what I pledged for before getting a refund.

There are still two local players waiting on their DzC boards, though, and I think it might get more play once Dropfleet hits. So, hopefully they'll deliver well... but the delay here has really hurt.

As much as the communication from this creator also was inaccurate / etc, at least they do offer full refunds... that is much more than can be said of other projects which struggle. So, I'm really glad they were willing to refund me so quickly, and wish them the best with what seems to be their final board, and also the most needed/ useful and best fit for their product, imo.

 RiTides wrote:
I am really hopeful they'll deliver quality DzC boards - the game really would benefit from these, and those were what I pledged for before getting a refund.

There are still two local players waiting on their DzC boards, though, and I think it might get more play once Dropfleet hits. So, hopefully they'll deliver well... but the delay here has really hurt.

As much as the communication from this creator also was inaccurate / etc, at least they do offer full refunds... that is much more than can be said of other projects which struggle. So, I'm really glad they were willing to refund me so quickly, and wish them the best with what seems to be their final board, and also the most needed/ useful and best fit for their product, imo.

There is that - and they did replace the bad brushes - but the brushes that they replaced them with had the exact same problem. (Twelve bad brushes for the price of six.)

The Anima boards look very nice, at least when repainted - but so many lies have come out of this company... I would not trust them.

Ever.

The Auld Grump, yeah... a flood, that's the ticket....

 RiTides wrote:
There are still two local players waiting on their DzC boards, though, and I think it might get more play once Dropfleet hits. So, hopefully they'll deliver well... but the delay here has really hurt.

Not sure if I'm one of those two or not...but I ended up ordering one shortly after the KS (at a much inflated, possibly MSRP price), and am still holding out for mine. Despite the fact that it was "guaranteed delivery by Historicon 2014"...I'm hoping to finally have them for this year's Historicon.

I have multiple tables now of really nice MDF and resin terrain from Hawk, Blotz, 4Ground, etc, and keep putting them on crappy cardboard boards :(