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Nice, Yggie is back from break and back to painting minis! Looking forward to seeing what you do with the SG model.

And p.s because of you I bought a can of white primer...that's a big deal for me lol

@ Sageheart : Yeah, you'd rather do that... Healthier (though it could break your sanity in the long run), but no less expensive!! Thanks for the comments..

@ MajorTom11 : Welcome to a world of bright & vibrant colours!! It's a bit hard to get used to, I admit, but you get better results in the end, I think...

[edit : no thoughts for my poor Skavens?]

I'd call that a "raven's beak"... which is just the same thing just translated into English... so I think you're good there.

Nice rats Yggs. They're very... rat like.

Your skaven with the sword and the Bec de corbin/ Raven's beak looks particularly great, very dynamic position, good job!

Ok, thanks guys!!!!

Worked a bit on the Night Runners yesterday evening (while "watching" a girly movie), and finally settled on a swampy environment for my Skavens.

So I imagined my Night Runners would likely use all the pontoons & footbridges available to infiltrate in better conditions, and have a better view over the battlefield...

Here's a first shot, I intend to add a few rocks & branches this evening :


Some perched Night Runners

Of course, this setting is also a good way to try and use the GW Artificial Water, which I'll want murky & full of dead things

Is it better?

Love those Yggs... not THOSE are RATS!! Rats on stilts!

LOL!

I am a basing slut... And I like...

Yggdrasil wrote:@ Sageheart : Yeah, you'd rather do that... Healthier (though it could break your sanity in the long run), but no less expensive!! Thanks for the comments..

@ MajorTom11 : Welcome to a world of bright & vibrant colours!! It's a bit hard to get used to, I admit, but you get better results in the end, I think...

[edit : no thoughts for my poor Skavens?]

Lol not familiar enough with the base plastics to comment much on the conversions, although they look nice! I do love me some skaven, and I know enough to know non-giant hand sharpface gutter-runners require a bit of work! I will however have plenty of excitement and stuff to say on the paint stages though, these guys are really versatile in that they can support a pretty low end paintjob and still look good, but, in skilled hands like yours, they can be taken to a completely different level.

Looking forward to seeing more!

Hell yeah

Those sneaky little rat-things look fantastic on their perches Great idea, very characterful and very interested to see what you do with the water effects.

@ Gits : Ha, thanks, I didn't know the word for "stilts", but that's exactly what I intended lol...

@ graven : What do you mean by "basing slut"? Do you I understand that's one of your knacks? Anyway, thanks!

@ MajorTom : Thanks, but given how people vote on my already painted Skavens (->see for yourself), I'm not so sure about this "different level" lol...

Still, your comments are always warming uh...

@ monkeytroll : thank you as well! As for the Water... It's going to be the first time I'll be experimenting with it (except on the tongue of a Daemonette's horn), so don't expect miracles in here!!!

By the way, I'd welcome any advice regarding the use of GW Water... What's best for a swamp?

A few questions, a bit naive maybe :

- is it better to paint the bottom of the water and apply it pure, or mix paint with it?
- how to surround it so that you can "pour" it, in order to achieve a feeling of depth?
- can it stand being varnished?
- how long for it to cure?


As today was my last day of vacation, I took time to finish TiB's Flamer Marine, who I think is a bit below Gits' one, for some unknown reason... But I'm still really happy with him! No pic until when I have some nice natural light, for otherwise it'd screw everything!!

And this evening, during another "girly" movie, I went on with adding some Dryad branches on the Skaven bases to begin the "swamp effect"... I now have to look for a skeleton or zombie torso that will float on the surface, and maybe tomorrow you'll have pics!!!

Thanks again,

Hmm, took a look.

I think the problem might be that you are rocking too many similar tones on them. I.e - if you turned the picture black and white, it would look a bit like the it was a white primered mini with a badab black wash.

You don't have the problem in your other works because you have strong color contrasts.

My advice would be to darken up the robes, or, alternately, the skavens fur/skin. I bet a nice deep burgundy red, forest green or charcoal gray would work really nicely. You would still be able to use your wash technique, but could use a combination of blacks/sienna and then a contrast color to add depth... like red in the recesses of the green, and blue in the recesses of red. A dash of pink wash on the nose/cheeks would also be very striking on the otherwise large tan/skin areas. What do you think?

I don't care what the votes say, still think they are pretty good bro!



Man... I miss painting. MUST. FINISH. SCULPTING. HYBRIDS.

For water effects I have heard that masking tape is great for making a removable surround for pouring the water effects into, I have also had good results from adding paint to doming resin which I think is similar to water effects, I believe that water effects can take awhile to cure though.

If you dont do it in thin layers, it will contract and crack as well, be careful and do a test first!

That horror CSM is awesome!

The Ninjas are looking cool, i like the pontoons and the use of the plaguemonk bodies and stormvermin arms really makes them look unique. Good luck with the water effects, i'll be interested to see how it works out as i'd like to try it one day.

I feel your pain with the "girly movies", at least you could do something productive during it!

@ MajorTom :

Ha, as usual you manage to put words on things my mind doesn't even manage to grasp...

Very helpful though. Actually the goal was to try and use mainly washes on Dheneb Stone-basecoated minis, but I can still improve, I guess!!
I wanted to have the robes look like they could have been of a light tone (maybe cream, or even white) at one point, but were now so ragged & dirty & pus-stained that they were closer to a light brown...

So I guess I should rather go to a darkening of the skin?

And I definitely need to try that "depth" thing, with red over green, or blue over red... You've already tried to explain that to me once, but it still won't come!

Why can't you paint? Is it because you don't have any ready mini?

@ BH & MajorTom :

thanks for the little tricks for water, I guess I'll have to find some masking tape somewhere... I also had thought I could literally "pour" the water once the shape was made, I would not have imagined you had to do it in thin layers! Probably helped me save one or two minis
BH : What is "doming" resin?

@ lifeofshan :

Thanks! As for the "girly movies", it's the deal we have with my GF, so I'm pretty happy with it : she lets me "build my things" while she watches her film, which :
1. gives me more time for the Hobby, without much reproach from her,
2. allows me to avoid most of the movie's plot (I'm not a huge TV fan),
3. allows me to make fun of her when the scenario's really too dumb / simple / romantic (you know, the usual "First they meet, then they love each other, then "something gets wrong" (tm) (ex-boyfriend/girlfriend, wife learns about mistress, job transfer, family problems), then they split, and in the end, they love each other again" )!

So that's a win-win for us...

UPDATES :

As mentioned previously, I've done a bit of work on the Night Runner bases (sorry, poor lighting again, and I cannot seem to get it right with my lamps) :



(Yes, that's a leg on the 3rd one lol)

And also built the last of that 5-rat squad, along with the back of the leader's base (a forest spirit is trying to hide behind the branches!) :



Maybe the last one is the least Ninja-ey of the 5, but I don't really know how to improve that... I've added a few accessories to his buddies, I'll try and see if that works too here! He'll be getting his stilts as well, don't worry!!

Wow I love the perches and branches/mangroves!!

http://www.miniaturementor.com/painting_tutorials.html

Advanced tutorials 1, for 20 bucks, a lot of great info! It has a lot of very clear demos on multi-tonal painting, including skin and robes!

As for me, I have my Space Hulk:Complete project I've been on for over a year now. I started painting the NMM dantenator, but then I received some hybrids I had commisioned based on my prototypes, and did some more work on those one's... Then I decided to finish all the sculpting/modelling so I could focus on painting, but unfortunately for me lol, that involved an additional 50%+ sculpting on 11 more 4th generation hybrids, touch ups on the 1st, 2nd and3rd generation ones etc etc... I am getting close to being done and going back to painting, but it's exhausting at this point lol...

Make sure you youtube water effects tests! GW watereffects and Resin based watereffects act very differently. GW's is for all intents and purposes Acrylic gloss medium, so it won't set very well in anything but the thinnest layers!

Thanks Ink, welcome aboard!!

I hadn't thought of this, but yeah, it quite looks like a mangrove... I might try to emphasize that...

Tom, I'll try and have a look... I don't really feel like watching tutorials usually (too depressing considering the awesome skills they display), but it might be worth it.

Good luck on the Hybrids, you should post some pics on your thread (I checked when I saw your previous post, in case I had missed an update lol)...

I'm off on holiday in a week and you make mayor updates to your blogg yggdra! I'm impressed hehe, cool night runners you got going.

Hey, welcome back Rose, hope you enjoyed your holidays... Mine were a bit long (2 and a half weeks) so I guess it helped...

Thanks!

Your mangrove/swamp basing theme is really good. It makes me think of the old illustrations of the swamps surrounding Skavenblight, filled with wrecks and deadly things.

Good work Yggs.

If you're planning to use artificial water on these ones, could you post step by step pics please? (I'm interested in making something similar for some Rackham models)Thanks.

Thanks!!! I'll try to remember taking pics, but if it's really as MajorTom said (that is, thin & thinner layers), I'm not sure I'll have the patience to do it at all!!

UPDATES :

2nd Marine is almost finished, a few touch-ups, and he'll be ready to join TiB...

Here he is :


Body


Flamer


Assembled model


Back

What do you think? Any things I could do better?

I'm still thinking of the fluff for him... I just know he's a veteran of the Dead Meadow Massacre (hence its left knee pad), but apart from this...

Love him Yggs... wow. Maybe some carbon blackening at the tip of the flamer... really that's about all I could suggest. Really, really nice figure.

Thanks Git!

It doesn't show well on the "Flamer" pic, but on the "Assembled mini" one, you can see I blackened the tip... I just used multiple layers of heavily watered-down Chaos Black for it, maybe it's too subtle...

The whole thing is brilliant but I am particuarly interested in the green knee pad - sort of verdigris or maybe malachite?

No, actually I was trying to depict a patch of high grass as a reminder of the "Dead Meadow" battle...

For verdigris I prefer to use Hawk Turquoise + Bleached Bone, usually...

Love the blue on the knee pads and gems, i wish mine came out like that.

Can't wait to see some paint on ninjas soon, i can feel the temptation for a skaven army increasing slowly which is extremely worrying.

Luckily i dont have to watch all the romantic comedys my wife watches, but some of them i do, "love and other drugs" definately trys to keep the guys attention, its well worth checking out (hint... boobs!).

For the blue gems, the key is to slowly go from Necron Abyss to almost pure white...

I usually have 6-7 steps, 3 to go from Necron Abyss to pure Hawk Turquoise, 2 for Hawk Turquoise + Bleached Bone ( 1:1 and 1:2, usually); then 2 for Hawk Turquoise + Skull White (something close to 1:4, and 1:8)... Plus a dot of skull white on top.

Highly watered down paints, and it's important to "pull" the paint towards the lightest part (usually the bottom...)

As for the romantic comedies, I usually avoid them in cinemas, it's mostly at home I have to cope with them...

And for Skavens, they now have a bunch of nice sprues! I just wish they had re-released the Night Runner sprues with the modern anatomy, they're leaner and look more deadly than funny now!

Yea I like that marine. Awesome looking paint work. Very good use of bits. Its an awesome paint scheme.

Thanks PPC...

Here's the final result, based, touched up, and slightly 'Ardcoat-ed...





I haven't disabled the voting on those two, so now it's "weapons free"!!! Please let me know what he deserves!

Cheers,