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migooo wrote:

Yes I know, that sacked Rome. I meant in a design sense I was unsure what it could mean for the range.

Sorry but my history nerdrage forces me to correct you, the Huns never sacked Rome, that was the Visigoths.

Pic of the index page of the new/forthcoming book

 emperorpenguin wrote:

migooo wrote:

Yes I know, that sacked Rome. I meant in a design sense I was unsure what it could mean for the range.

Sorry but my history nerdrage forces me to correct you, the Huns never sacked Rome, that was the Visigoths.

Well that's me being extremely stupid then I apologize for my mistake.

 reds8n wrote:
Pic of the index page of the new/forthcoming book

It doesnt seem to have many new units...the trees seem to be the ones in wood elves pdf

Gryph hounds seem new to me

Lord castellent is presumbly the lantern holding guy form the next white dwarf and gryph hounds are his pet.

migooo wrote:
Gryph hounds seem new to me

Yeah, that and Lord-Castellant, but we saw the pics already for these.


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I'm a bit surprised that they didn't include new units from the new novel, decimators(axe guys) and protectors( glaive guys).

Somewhat disappointed that there are no new units. I do assume though that the warscrolls will include full weapon and gear options as opposed to the limited ones in the starter giving options for new lords and banner dudes. Hopefully anyway

jaceimba wrote:

migooo wrote:
Gryph hounds seem new to me

Yeah, that and Lord-Castellant, but we saw the pics already for these.


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I'm a bit surprised that they didn't include new units from the new novel, decimators(axe guys) and protectors( glaive guys).

Maybe they are in the next campaign book.

Until there is a leader kit with the new weapons available you're not going to get warscrolls with them on

Chapterhouse and all that, no rules before minis just in case some 'wicked, evil, parasite' steals all their sales

migooo wrote:

jaceimba wrote:

migooo wrote:
Gryph hounds seem new to me

Yeah, that and Lord-Castellant, but we saw the pics already for these.


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I'm a bit surprised that they didn't include new units from the new novel, decimators(axe guys) and protectors( glaive guys).

Maybe they are in the next campaign book.

Maybe the retributors weapon options are unique units/rules, and are called decimators (with thunderaxes) and protectors (with stormstrike glaives). I think we saw these models before.

Those glaive guys are seriously awesome looking.

 Haight wrote:
Those glaive guys are seriously awesome looking.

They are.

They just give me so many ideas for stuff.

migooo wrote:

 Haight wrote:
Those glaive guys are seriously awesome looking.

They are.

They just give me so many ideas for stuff.

Meh, don't know if it is just me but they don't look Fantasy to me. I mean, they could just as easily be Grey Knights or something. I just can't fathom why GW would want to chuck away 30 odd years of divergent material and fluff in order to homogenise everything. I mean, sure, Space Marines sell but is that really a good reason to make everything into a Space Marine? If I want 40K, I'll play that. One of the draws for Fantasy was precisely that it wasn't 40K. I can't help thinking how bland everything will be when every game system becomes like every other.

I understand the sentiment but it is just one faction. If the new elves look suspiciously Eldarish then I will join you in complaining. Part of the problem is that 40k is distinctly retro and many of the concepts are fantasy in space. orks, eldar, necrons etc.

Games Workshop seem to be going for the idea that each boxed set has its own rules. So instead of a single profile having several possible boxes (Empire State Troops comes to mind), each individual box will be tied to its own warscroll. I don't know whether that will be better or worse for us as consumers - but it seems likely that we won't see discrepancies between options and model components. An idle comparison would be to Sternguard, which have always come with too few combi-meltas for peoples' taste; with this system, the box would come with exactly as many combi-meltas as the unit could take.

 filbert wrote:

migooo wrote:

 Haight wrote:
Those glaive guys are seriously awesome looking.

They are.

They just give me so many ideas for stuff.

Meh, don't know if it is just me but they don't look Fantasy to me. I mean, they could just as easily be Grey Knights or something. I just can't fathom why GW would want to chuck away 30 odd years of divergent material and fluff in order to homogenise everything. I mean, sure, Space Marines sell but is that really a good reason to make everything into a Space Marine? If I want 40K, I'll play that. One of the draws for Fantasy was precisely that it wasn't 40K. I can't help thinking how bland everything will be when every game system becomes like every other.

All my ideas are 40k related.. and nothing to do with SM or Custodes.

I think a lot of us are waiting to see what new 40k conversions we have in store

migooo wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

migooo wrote:

Well fine there's a piece of artwork that features a dwarf that looks like he's made from fire. This should be enough. In the previous thread, I tried to provide clues. it seems that dwarfs will replace the hammers noticed that sigmar guys have with axes if this helps. Think elemental.

Is this your card?

I never noticed that in there beforehand. Yup that's the one.

When I first saw the AoS leaks and the reference to dwarves as "Steamhead Duardin" I was hopeful that the "Steamhead" meant they would look somewhat steampunk like, emphasizing dwarf engineering like gyrocopeters and goblin hewer war machines. That would have been a nice counterpoint to the Skaven warpstone alchemy that's been in their EoT releases. Now, I'm realizing that "Steamhead" is probably due to GW making them into mini fire elementals, probably with literal steam coming out of their heads. The Duardin will probably be characterized by their fiery tempers and preference for spicy food and they'll have a war machine that shoots magma and looks like a lava lamp.

I think you will be closer with your first guess if the illustration of the fire slayers is anything to go by.

It has need stated that there are two distinct Dwarf types, one it seems will be the fire element the other could well be steampunk miners.

My guess is some sort of dwarf steam walkers with obligatory steam cannons as part of their release, think wooden Dreadnaught!

This would be both terrifying and awesome and completely implode the heads of any 8th Edition holdouts/KOWer/Warmahoody.

Just a guess.

Fire Dwarves could be cool. I have no interest in the new game, but if a cool looking plastic boxed set of Fire Dwarves come out, I will get some to use as Azers for Dungeons and Dragons.

I'm hoping the new dwarves are in the same scale as the new Iron Breakers/Iron Drakes and Hammerers/Longbeards (which were a scale jump from the previous models by a decent degree). I feel like there is a solid chance since they are super recent releases (newest models pre-endtimes). Either way I'm looking forward to more Dwarves

Have we seen terrain prices yet?

99120299028 OPHIDIAN ARCHWAY £25.00
(Edit: not 100% sure if these prices may have had a 20% discount already take off them or not, the posting I've found them at is unclear)

99120299026 BALEFUL REALMGATES £35.00
(Edit: not 100% sure if these prices may have had a 20% discount already take off them or not, the posting I've found them at is unclear)

99070218003 STORMCAST ETERNALS LORD-CASTELLANT £23.00
(Edit: not 100% sure if these prices may have had a 20% discount already take off them or not, the posting I've found them at is unclear)


and some sprue picture of the Ophidian Archway from http://childrenofthekraken.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/ophidian-archway-sprues.html

Played the first five Scenarios with my two eldest boys yesterday.. they both really liked it, and found the rules streamlined and easy to follow, they will be able to play this on their own soon without the need for me to help them cover any difficult rules, which is a large bonus (both are under the recommended age mind, 9 and 11)

I'd say the scenarios favour the Stormcast folks for the most part.. and the eldest who has taken the Stormcast as his own won every Scenario.. although the waves one required some very good luck as that one seems to be towards Chaos, and the fifth one with the first use of the Icon bearer of Khorne went down to the wire.

It seems fun to play mind, no idea how it will translate with large forces, but the combat phase is a standout highlight for the game with the choosing of units by each player.
I can see me playing it, but at the moment the two factions that came in the box belong to the boys, I'll be waiting to see what GW does with Aelf's, Daurdin and Destruction before I make any actual judgement call on if I will be getting an army.. but I'll happily play one of the boys with their rival faction when the chance arises.

$40 USD on the Archway and $58 USD on the Baleful Realmgate seems...slightly backwards.


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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Played the first five Scenarios with my two eldest boys yesterday.. they both really liked it, and found the rules streamlined and easy to follow, they will be able to play this on their own soon without the need for me to help them cover any difficult rules, which is a large bonus (both are under the recommended age mind, 9 and 11)

I'd say the scenarios favour the Stormcast folks for the most part.. and the eldest who has taken the Stormcast as his own won every Scenario.. although the waves one required some very good luck as that one seems to be towards Chaos, and the fifth one with the first use of the Icon bearer of Khorne went down to the wire.

It seems fun to play mind, no idea how it will translate with large forces, but the combat phase is a standout highlight for the game with the choosing of units by each player.
I can see me playing it, but at the moment the two factions that came in the box belong to the boys, I'll be waiting to see what GW does with Aelf's, Daurdin and Destruction before I make any actual judgement call on if I will be getting an army.. but I'll happily play one of the boys with their rival faction when the chance arises.

With the Stormcast there is definitely a bit of an advantage if the Stormcast player is on their turn and they get to activate.

I'll guess the Realmgate needs an extra sprue to make up the 'base' the gate is floating above

Having seen them both in person, I can't see any kind of way that the Realmgate can be justified as more expensive than the Archway...

Do you get multiple realmgates in one kit?

 Manchu wrote:
Just reposting here as an FYI:

The painting guide is not great unless all you want is a\n exhaustive guide to exactly how the studio models were painted. There is very little fluff and no information about alternative paint schemes.

GW has already posted what seem to be a fairly comprehensive set of video painting guides for the starter set figures on YouTube. While this obviously only addresses the starter figures specifically, it seems to provide enough information and paint selections and techniques to paint any other figures in the Sigmar or Khorne forces. Does the print/ebook painting guide provide any real additional information?

Coverart seemed to indicate 2 per box (would also fit with the "gates" in the title). So that might be the reason for the increased cost.