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over at B&C they seem to have good news for the Sons of Russ

Originally posted by Bjorn the fell-handed on Bolter and Chainsword

Hey fellas,

Hope youve all been well. Ive not been on of late, and for that Ill buy you all a beer.

Anwyays, onto topic. Today, I was at Warhammer world at a doubles tourney between two GW stores, and whilst in the loo,I bumped into Phil Kelly, who then ended up having a ten minute convo with me a some friends in the main hall. Anyways, the topic came onto wolves, and this si what I was told.

- He said it was going to be ready VERY SOON. So, that provides tacit support for our december release, perhaps even earlier.
- On the question of us turning into grey ultras, he said NO! (not like that, but you get the point ) He said the whole Wolf codex will be based around heroic warriors/ individuals, rather than like, tactical squad tarnis' overall involvement or something. The codex will have plenty of sagas, greats stories, beautiful artwork and generally be packed. So, essentially, we are getting the individualism that Wolves are famous for.
- We will be getting shiny new models, as well as probably more wolfy bits as well.

In addition, I got my codex signed by him too

I know these aren't specific rumours,and I apologise for it (he had to leave and write some more of it ) but I just wanted to report this, to try and reassure you guys that they want to make it good; they seem to have the right kind of approach, as well as (if youve seen the guard codex) the will to make a truly broken dex

Happy hunting, and may your roll your rendings!

Bjorn the fell-handed


and here is a link to the thread

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=165236&st=0

Thanks for the info. I'm very interested in seeing how this turns out. For myself, this is the only chapter that has had any real appeal for me.

Yay, and we now know our SM release for the year!

I may actually play Loyalist marines for once. I like how it sounds, anyways.

I've always thought Space Wolves were one of the more interesting Marine chapters, so seeing an update is pretty welcome.

Even if I didn't like them though, seeing the army with the second oldest codex out there get an update isn't a bad thing.

I have no interest in the Puppies, but this should be a good release and much more interesting than the other SM books. Phil K. simply does flavor and concept better than the other designers.

Wolves should be a good book I think. New plastics are all helmetless AFAIK.

Phil Kelly is writing it? AWESOME.

He is my favorite codex author.

And reds8n, hahaha, you can't escape me that easily!

You mentioned Khorne tower of skulls in relation to planet strike.

Is that a new terrain kit, or what? Please let me know as you have piqued my interest.

SW are long overdue for a good dose of awesome, although there have been some nice things coming out of Forge World over the years.

Gonna add my YAY Phil! But its not quite enough to get me interested.

"Temple of Skulls" you mean... AFAIK it's a terrain piece. Now you know as much as me.. more or less anyway , I'm hoping to find out more info "soon".

Of course this could turn out to be utter BS but it's from a source that is normally very very good. The name screams Khorne/chaos to me but I guess the IMperium is pretty heavy on the old skull love too.

There has been discussion that this kit or part of it or an early prototype is in the warriors of chaos book in the colour section, which would tie in with the trend for GW to sneak new/forthcoming stuff into their newer books and articles.

If you go back over the last few years of WD you'll be surprised how often they use or show things that aren't out or perhaps give a little nod towards certain rule changes in forthcoming editions of rules etc etc.

Sorry. [/hijack]

On Topic: Hmmm. Heroic Space Marines by Phil Kelly? Well, this should be interesting.

Off Topic: Temple.of.SKULLZ?
Christ. Would they not make a terrain piece that doesn't feature that part of our anatomy for once?
I mean, what about a Hospice of Femurs?

Aqueduct of Armpits ?

Colon Colosseum ?

Pyramid of Pen.. we'll leave that there thinking about it.

reds8n wrote: Pyramid of Pen.. we'll leave that there thinking about it.

Well maybe for Slaanesh.

I can't wait for the new Wolf codex - mostly so I can "counts as" my way to a non-codex Space Marine force. Like I used to be able to do!

Yea! Great news, I've not bought anything for my wolves since I started converting the AOBR SMs. I eagerly await its arrival.

Damn, and I said I was done with Marines! Ok, well, if this is as good as it could possibly be, then I may have to go for a Wolves army.....

I wasn't tempted by the IG even though they have nice new shiny bits....broken or otherwise! But this (Wolves) may get my money flowing back in the direction of G-Dub for a while.

Demogerg wrote:
- On the question of us turning into grey ultras, he said NO! (not like that, but you get the point ) He said the whole Wolf codex will be based around heroic warriors/ individuals, rather than like, tactical squad tarnis' overall involvement or something. The codex will have plenty of sagas, greats stories, beautiful artwork and generally be packed. So, essentially, we are getting the individualism that Wolves are famous for.

I love this rumor.

It's like saying the IG Codex has infantry and tanks.

Wait, it DOES?!

Did anyone else catch Nick Kyme on Worlds End radio? He mentioned that he's doing an audio book for Space Wolf to be released at UK Games Day. I'd say it's a great time to be a Wolf fan! I'm still hoping for a GDUK release for the Space Wolf dex.

Hopefully they will finish it up soon so we can get to reworking the major races codexes. As cool as the wolves are I don't really think they need the same amount of time that a flagship race does.

Well as soon as they are outta the way, DE are the next oldest in need of an update. Rumor is they will be early next year.

sweet, the Wolves are definitely due a spruce up, ill look forward to it, not from a space wolf army point of view, im happy with my ultramarines, but i may get a couple of the characters to have a go at some display standard painting, i love the wolves colour scheme!

bob

Ooooh, perhaps we can use the SW codex counts-as to make Chaos marines actually similar to the individual, highly-experienced veterans they are supposed to be. I look forward to seeing the rules.

Demogerg wrote:He said the whole Wolf codex will be based around heroic warriors/ individuals, rather than like, tactical squad tarnis' overall involvement or something. The codex will have plenty of sagas, greats stories, beautiful artwork and generally be packed. So, essentially, we are getting the individualism that Wolves are famous for.

So... back to herohammer, is it? I keeed, I keeed

I've always liked the feral, viking feel of the Wolves. I hope they do it justice.

Cruentus wrote:

Demogerg wrote:He said the whole Wolf codex will be based around heroic warriors/ individuals, rather than like, tactical squad tarnis' overall involvement or something. The codex will have plenty of sagas, greats stories, beautiful artwork and generally be packed. So, essentially, we are getting the individualism that Wolves are famous for.

So... back to herohammer, is it? I keeed, I keeed

I've always liked the feral, viking feel of the Wolves. I hope they do it justice.

Back to Herohammer? What you talkin' 'bout, Willis?

Space wolves are currently Herohammer! I see no problem with that as they have been this way for years.

Sometimes I think GW needs a dose of Ritalin and a slap upside the head... we've got a new edition out and a few CORE armies that are in need of an update/overhaul (can you say Dark Eldar? I knew you could...).


Space marines just got an update... not to step on the toes of all you BT/SW/BA/DA people, but I swear, having to wait for a new DE/Eldar/=][= codex for this long is kinda one of those cases where you want to tell those overspecialized baskin robbins SMphiles at GW to actually do something with the other armies they have sitting in their IP bubble. We don't have faction codexes for CSMs, Orks, Eldar, or anyone else for that matter, so why do the SM players need them so badly?

[Insert generic cop out "GW is a business" response here]

Da Boss wrote:[Insert generic cop out "GW is a business" response here]

It's not like Marines sell like hotcakes!

ShumaGorath wrote:Hopefully they will finish it up soon so we can get to reworking the major races codexes. As cool as the wolves are I don't really think they need the same amount of time that a flagship race does.

??? They're about as major as they come. They deserve just as much attention as anything else. In fact, they will receive more because they are among the most popular armies out there, if local opinions and internet rumblings are any indicator.