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Hey all,

I've been trying for a while now to get my gaming group into smaller scale games, to give a different spin on the hobby (or something like that!). After doing a lengthy blood-bowl league and half-way through a Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay adventure, i've convinced them to start a Necromunda campaign.

This blog may be a bit stop and start, considering the fact i've got a-levels at the beginning of June, but we'll see how it goes. Maybe i'll even get a bit of scenery building in.


For my gang i've decided to use Van Saar rules to represent an Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator "Maniple" searching for Archeotech/ lost Imperial Technology in the Underhive. I realise now it's not the most original idea out there but hopefully i can put my own original spin on it.

These came through the post today:




They will make up the bulk of my gang, i will add 4 GW servitors to it as well. In that pile of goodness is:

- 1 Ad Mech Tech-Priest (weapon and servo-arms will go to my leader, the body will be converted to a Hypaspist)
- 1 Tech Servitor (will make a Juve)
- 1 Inquisitor Lok and servo-skull (Lok will become the gang-leader, an explorator Tech-Priest)
- 1 Death Korps Quatermaster and retinue (Quatermaster will be converted into a Hypaspist, Medical servitor into a Juve, Servitor w/ board on back will be a Hypaspist)
- GW servitors will make Juves and Heavies

[Not sure what to do with servo-skull, Cherub, DKK equipment carrying servitor and DKK casualty? Ideas?]

Thats all for now,

Thanks for looking!!

Good idea, looking forward to this blog! The casualty could be converted to repsresnet a captured ganger; that tends to happen in Necromunda, so you migth as well have all you need to play the rescue scenario . The servo skull could count as a scope?

Hey Khaine, thanks for replying! Good call on the captured ganger, i could model it as a Delaque ganger or something! What would you say to magnetising weapons? I think it would be a good idea but how far should i go? I'm thinking just magnetising weapons at the moment.

Wouldn't magnetizing them all be a bit fragile for hi-action Necro games???

Still, I love the idea of small warbands roaming landscapes outside of the Necromunda system, so I'm eager to see that...

Any plan on what your friends abns will be?

I look forward to seeing this develop

Wish there were people near me who wanted to get into 'munda, but ah well

Thanks for the support guys, hopefully flesh out some models tomorrow!

Yggdrasil wrote:Wouldn't magnetizing them all be a bit fragile for hi-action Necro games???

If i'm just magnetising the weapons i shouldn't forsee it being too much of a problem. However i'm a novice at both magnetising and Necromunda, so you couls be right. I think i'll magnteise the heavy servitor first and see how it goes.

Yggdrasil wrote:Any plan on what your friends abns will be?

Do you mean gangs? Just a bit confused as to what "abns" are! I think they'll be an enforcers patrol, maybe another Van Saar gang. Those are definite. Could be up to 7/8 people participating so i'm sure they'll be a mix of gangs.

SilverMK2 wrote:Wish there were people near me who wanted to get into 'munda, but ah well

You'd be surprised how willing people will be if you give it a try. Biggest problem for me is going to be getting the terrain together (although the clubs got two imperial city sets, the £100 ones ). I'd like a full 4'x4' board full of different heigts and sizes all interconnecting by networks of bridges, but that's just a dream!!

Awww, awesome. I found the DKK well after I started convering my Kasrkrins, so alas it was too late for me, but it's good to see someone else dragging those models into the hive.

I vill be vatchink verrrrry closely.

Also, the random left over bit can be turned into "loot" counters for scavenger games. We are playing with the idea of having them worth a little more than D6 x 5, perhaps a basic weapon randomly chosen by a D^ or something similar, as at the moment they tend to sit on the ground whilst we pepper each other with rounds and wait for a victor to claim the non-collected counters. Food for thought.

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Hey Khaine, thanks for replying! Good call on the captured ganger, i could model it as a Delaque ganger or something! What would you say to magnetising weapons? I think it would be a good idea but how far should i go? I'm thinking just magnetising weapons at the moment.

You're welcome . Magnetising weapons might help, but you should realize that you will be replacing minis at some point as they gain advances and/or injuries. I wouldn't bother with magnetising the heavy unless it's really easy; being able to afford a new heavy weapon rarely happens...

Vitruvian XVII wrote:

Yggdrasil wrote:Any plan on what your friends abns will be?

Do you mean gangs? Just a bit confused as to what "abns" are! I think they'll be an enforcers patrol, maybe another Van Saar gang. Those are definite. Could be up to 7/8 people participating so i'm sure they'll be a mix of gangs.

Sorry I was writing with a new keyboard and am not used to it yet... But yeah, I was meaning "Gangs" uh!!!

Good luck on magnetizing, I agree with CommissarKhaine: weapon changes happen, but so are the gangers characteristics, so sometimes you'll be better considering getting new minis rather than swapping weapons.

Anyway, cheers & enjoy!!

Archibald Jack wrote:Awww, awesome. I found the DKK well after I started convering my Kasrkrins, so alas it was too late for me, but it's good to see someone else dragging those models into the hive.

I vill be vatchink verrrrry closely.

Also, the random left over bit can be turned into "loot" counters for scavenger games. We are playing with the idea of having them worth a little more than D6 x 5, perhaps a basic weapon randomly chosen by a D^ or something similar, as at the moment they tend to sit on the ground whilst we pepper each other with rounds and wait for a victor to claim the non-collected counters. Food for thought.

DKK are definitely nice models, i will be chopping them up a bit so they'll look the part.

Perhaps on the counters front you could let people only take the crates they collected, and leave the unclaimed ones, well, unclaimed!

@Yggdrasil and CimmissarKhaine: I think you're right about the magnetising, it would be a pain.


This is the rough roster for my gang:

- Leader w/ meltagun and chainsword
- Heavy w/ Heavy Plasma Gun
- 3 Gangers w/ 2 Lasguns, 1 shotgun (manstoppers)
- 4 Juves w/ 2 Laspistols, 1 Autopistol, 1 Bolt Pistol
[Knives for all!]

As i'm knew to Necromunda, how does that sound? Is the Heavy Plasma Gun actually worth it or should i take a Heavy Stubber?

Also, what would you say to mounting the leader's meltagun onto a servo-skull? Is that acceptable?

Thanks for looking, will have some modelling updates soon!!

Hi first of all... nice idea of building a AD Mech gang... I'm looking forward to your first minis.

And for the weapon question... Heavy plasmaguns aren't worth the credits for a starting gang. Take a heavy stubber or 2 instead. IMHO it is the best Heavy gun in necromunda. If you want plasmaweapons take a plasmagun for your second heavy and/or the leader and a lasgun for backup so you can fire the gun at high capacity every other turn and the lasgun in between. This worked quite well for me.
And only use autopistols on your juves. If you fire at long range the -1 modifier of the laspistols is a pain in the ass and results in an ammoroll allmost everytime you hit your enemy. Bolt pistols are way to expensive for juves. Juves are cannonfodder to catch bullets and thus should cost as few credits as possible.

Hey konf, thanks for the reply!

I did think the Hvy PG looked a bit expensive, i think a stubber will be the way to go. Nice idea with the plasma gun/ lasgun idea as well. I suppose you're right about the Juves, bolt pistols are cool though I must admit i did overlook the ammo roll problem on the laspistols at long range, thanks for pointing that out!

So, the first 2 minis have been created, first we have a juve with knife and autopistol. The servo-skull is possibly the coolest thing i've ever seen, it comes with the titan tech priest from FW and i only just noticed it!!






This next one is a GW servitor, used as a Juve with club and bolt pistol, although i will switch that to an autopistol now




Hope you like, more tomorrow probably, got Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay session tonight so no modelling till tomorrow!

Nifty can't wait to see more!

Most definitely keeping an eye on this one, should prove interesting.

Minis are looking good! As for the gang

- Leader w/ meltagun and chainsword
- Heavy w/ Heavy Plasma Gun
- 3 Gangers w/ 2 Lasguns, 1 shotgun (manstoppers)
- 4 Juves w/ 2 Laspistols, 1 Autopistol, 1 Bolt Pistol
[Knives for all!]

- The meltagun is very short ranged: after a few advances, the enemey will have gangers that charge 12". Plasma gun is better IMO. After a while, you can buy a second plasma gun so you can always fire on full strength

- Like Konf said, the heavy plasma gun is overkill. Heavy stubber or heavy bolter are usually enough to put most gangers down. The heavy stubber is cheaper, the heavy bolter does d4 wounds so if you hit someone, they're going down!

- You need more gangers, since you need them to work your territories and such. I rarely started without at least 5 gangers. I usualy gave the gangers a backup weapon as soon as creds made it possible.

- autopistols for the juves, as Konf said!

- knives on juves for starters, so they have an additional hand weapon. For gangers, buy swords to keep them alive if you really want them to have cc weapons. Parry is a super ability!

Hey thanks for the kind words guys. Will get another roster up later.

On that note, does anyone know of any good roster sheets (not the GW one)?

Well, I think I had some on the computer that blacked out like, two months ago...

Still, I guess I found them while venturing for the Specialist Games website, where a lot of fanwork was regularly published... I haven't checked it for at least a year, so I'm not sure it's still active...

As for the gang project, I agree Plasma guns are the best weapons in the 40k universe, they look waaaaay too cool and are so deadly, but I reluctantly have to admit they're a bit too much for starting gangs... So yes, the heavy stubber's probably the best bet you can make...
Also again, no fancy weapons on the juves, keep that for later!!!

And the money spared on the heavy plasma gun can allow you to make a nasty surprise for a starting gang: a 2nd heavy?!?
Or, wisest choice (but less fun), BUY SOME MORE GANGERS!!!!

MORE GANGERS = MORE LOOT , MORE LOOT = MORE CREDITS, MORE CREDITS = MORE GEAR AND MORE GANGERS!!!

So you can eventually afford those F****** Plasma Guns Of Awesomness!!!!
(and buy your Juve a Bolt Pistol, coz that's what you want!!!)

Cheers,

Ok, re-done the roster so now i can get to some serious converting! (or maybe not, we'll see!! )

Here it is:

- Leader w/ Chainsword, knife, plasma gun
- Heavy w/ knife and Heavy stubber
- 5 Gangers w/ knives, 3 lasguns, 2 shotguns (w/ manstopper shells)
- 5 Juves w/ knives, autopistols

No swords as Van Saar can't have them


I'll get the leader and a hypaspist (ganger) up a bit later. Cheers,

Vitruvian

Double post.

Plenty of Juves is the traditional way to go.


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How are you planning to paint them by the way Scab Red and metal works fairly well for me on my Ad-Mech.

Thanks guys Giving me some good motivation here

CommissarKhaine wrote:5 juves is a lot, but since they'll grow into gangers real quick, they should prove a good investment.

Llamahead wrote:Plenty of Juves is the traditional way to go.

That's what i figured, thanks for the input though. Seems to me that after a couple of games the Juves should be good to go! (providing i don't use them as canon-fodder of course )

CommissarKhaine wrote:Looking forward to the hypaspist and your gang leader!

Well, i do so hate to disappoint! [although, i didn't get round to doing the hypaspist, never mind ]

I present to you, the venerated Tech-Magos Amatheus. Praise be to the Omnissiah!



You can't really see anything on this photo, but you get a good idea of the silhouette. He still needs 2 or 3 servo-arms and a cherub fused w/ a plasma gun.



A new servitor, still WIP. Work needs to be done on the servo-arm and an autopistol needs to be attatched to the end.



The Servitor from yesterday, now with autopistol!!

Llamahead wrote:How are you planning to paint them by the way Scab Red and metal works fairly well for me on my Ad-mech.

Yep, that's the usual way. I'll keep the robes nice and grimdark though! I'll probably muddy up the robes and skin, but the metal will remain lustrous, as you would expect! (probably a wash of badab and a re-highlight). Anyone know of a good way to do withered, sun-deprived skin?
Also, have you got pics of your Ad-mech on Dakka? We could do with a few more disciples of the machine god here!


Thanks for looking, more again tomorrow probably!

Vitruvian

Always start with a 2nd heavy.
hvy stubbers all the way
Always take techno skills for van saar, the possibility of 2+ ammo roll for a plasma gun is there.
I play escher so instead favour combat but shooting has more impact oon the game.
Also realise that all gangers, heavies and the leader get a free upgrade.
Gangers start at 20 +d6 exp (1st upgrade at 21)
Heavies and leaders start at 60 +d6 (1st upgrade at 61)

If gangers start with 20 + d6 exp, that doesn't mean you give them 20, then give them 1-6. It means that they start with 21-26 exp. They can't start with 20 or less, and so cannot claim an advance for reaching 21.

Ah feth didnt notice that.
Cheers Dreadnote

The Dreadnote wrote:If gangers start with 20 + d6 exp, that doesn't mean you give them 20, then give them 1-6. It means that they start with 21-26 exp. They can't start with 20 or less, and so cannot claim an advance for reaching 21.

True, unfortunately. Vikingscott: starting off with a 2nd heavy is tactic that can work, but it means cutting into your other gangers, since he easily costs as much as 2 or even 3 gangers/juves depending on equipment. I've foudn a 2nd heavy easy to afford mid-game, especially if you start him off with, say, a flamer for al those pesky cc gangs. He can make apretty good deterrent when it comes to defending your firebase or scrap

I started with 5 gangers 2 heavies Leader and 2 juves
1 hvy with flamer 1 with hvy stubber.
Low numbers can be good due to the chart where you cross reference money gained with gang members but then you have to take low casulties or suffer bottle tests

I think i'm going to stay with the roster as previously stated, it will enable me to have a solid core of gangers after a few matches. Then i can get some of the fun stuff!

Here's a medical servitor, counting as a juve with knife and autopistol:



Sorry this one's sideways Some lovely detail on this model though




And my heavy (with heavy stubber) a bit of greenstuff work needed to merge the gun with the flesh and i need to run tubes into places






Thanks for looking!!

Live the heavy - the bullet feed into the gun is a great idea.

Cheers Silver, it's just the Heavy Bolter ammo box slotted into the autocannon, there's a perfect hole!! (both from the Guard Heavy Weapons Team sprue)

I recognize the parts, I'd just never thought of using them like that.

I might have to start making my own 'munda gang now (been thinking of trying to get started for a while now ) - you've inspired me damn you!