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Conceding early, or acting like they want to after like...10 minutes. Why even bother getting my list out on the table if I'm just gonna put it back up?

Itchy dice rolling fingers. We've had to make it a rule that if you roll wrong (like rolling all the saves when there needs to be mixed save method used or whatnot) then the opponent gets to arrange the order of the dice however they want.
A subset of the same, when people don't even know what they're rolling for.

Lastly, when people think any unit they can't kill on turn 1 is "broken and OP" regardless of how much it costs. (This of course is coming from players who don't even bother coming up with a strat to fight them. They just run head first into a strategic brick wall and then claim the unit is broken.)

 pretre wrote:
Nothing says he can't paint them and still change chapters whenever.

Yeah, that was more what I was getting at.
My army of (painted ) marines represent whatever chapter I feel like. They happen to have the Dark Angel chapter marking (because that was my very first army), but they are built with a mix of DA, BT and BA bits, and are painted in a grey colour scheme.
I have no intention of ever deciding on, and sticking to, one single chapter. They will always be flexible.

PS. I always make my lists before I even know what codex I'll be playing against, much less what specific army.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Players who diss on others paint jobs, or insult others because they don't enjoy painting as much as they do.

This, but expanded to anyone who tells you that you are doing any aspect of YOUR hobby wrong. If you don't like the way I do it, go find and play with someone who shares your slightly fascistic view of hobbying, the further away from me the better.

Also;

-People who wear vests to tourneys. Yes its hot, yes we are all sweating, no I don't need to see your greasy hairy pits every time you roll a dice, or get a blast of sour body odour when you throw your arms up in the air having made your FNP roll.

-People who go to the effort of writing a list, but don't bother doing it properly. I've seen '5 Tac squads and a captain. 1000pts'

-Same said people who refuse to explain their lists to you before the game, expecting you to have an encyclopedic knowledge of every unit, random relic and obscure special rule from every codex in existence. Its just good form to explain your lists, you get to show off your nice conversions and you will probably learn something about the 'Champions of Fenris' or whatever too.

-People who forget to roll for 'gets hot' on plasma cannons (not a game goes by where I don't do this)

-People who roll dice by bouncing them off your minis (i.e. the side of a rhino). Just chuck them somewhere else asshat!

-People who don't understand that the whole point of playing SM is to play around with the CTs and keep it interesting. If you were supposed to strictly adhere to one CT for the entirety of your gaming existence, they would have been separate codices/supplements, sold as limited digital editions at heavily marked up prices.

It's already been covered, but number one on the list is touching my figures.

Then of course you have your typical dice holes. The type that pick up the dice and declare hits before you even got a chance to see. Or the type that reroll because they thought Iit was blah blah turn.

The worst dice issue is the tfg that throws 10 d6 right at your figures smashing them like bowling pins.

Lastly is hygiene. Wash people. It's not that hard! Why is it that alot of the people that hang around tables look greasy, smell and are full of dandruff. Take a damn bath! Daily!

I don't like people checking the rulebook or codex all the time when the rules are so basic.

 krodarklorr wrote:

It also bug me when people play the Imperium.

tanker19 wrote:
Actually one other guy really ticked me off. He was continuessly reaching down his pants to scratch his nuts. He reached over to hand me some models that were being removed, In asked him not to....I don't want my minis smelling like balls

Overly manly minis ?


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Melevolence wrote:


It's cheesy because he refuses to paint his models in order to gain advantages where he needs them. And I'm more than certain he changed Chapters from when we began to about halfway through the match. Though that is due to his gakky inability to write his list down proper so I know for certain what I'm facing. But he does that often, not just against me.

People like you think they have to suffer to gain that advantage.

People like him think they can play whatever they feel like.


Changing chapters is cheating of course, so if you have proof of that, you should just not play with him anymore - tell him you won't play if he cheats again.


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I dislike when people cheat.
Many people I've played cheat half an inch or more when moving their models.

I also dislike when people start telling you how they play for fun and fluff and playing for winning is bad mkay.

I dislike when people whine about balance issues during a game, when in fact 95% of the reason they're losing is their piss-poor deployment and movement phases.

morgoth wrote:

I also dislike when people start telling you how they play for fun and fluff and playing for winning is bad mkay.

I definitely play fluff. When I play Space Wolves, I play to murder EVERYTHING! Nothing says Space Wolf like playing to win. When I play IG, I throw a hundred or so models on the board, or TRACKS EVERYWHERE!!! Because nothing is IG Fluffier than tanks everywhere or blob gunlines.

Point I'm trying to make... WAAC is likely actually fluff.. No army goes in wanting to lose... (doom eagles maybe? But I play those to win too...).... But if you play serpent spam, there's a special place in hell for you.

 ausYenLoWang wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Nothing says he can't paint them and still change chapters whenever.

and thats the truth of it.

i have on many occasions used thousand son cult troops as basic marines? is this against the rules? make the TFG for substituting one thing for another? or do they look a damn sight cooler than basic marines? i tend to think they do.

the color ones army is painted makes no difference on its rules. in the case of marines, as long as he doesnt have calgar leading anyone but ultramarines, etc etc then he is good.

+1
I run 1K sons as normal csm a lot, simply because I don't have black legion rhinos and I don't like putting a group of BL marines in a 1K sons rhino.

 Pyeatt wrote:
But if you play serpent spam, there's a special place in hell for you.

And I dislike when people whine, especially when they whine about Wave Serpents.

Wave serpents are cheap and exploitive, Morgoth. The only other armies that win tourneys are 4 Imperial Knights, flying demon summoning spam, and Marbo standing all alone on an open field.

General annoying things that I don't like happening during a game.
1) First and foremost is people who rage. Like throwing dice across the room, throwing tape measures, punching the air in anger, raising voices to extreme levels(yelling) because things aren't going their way.
2)Crying isn't common, but happens enough that it really takes the fun out of a game.
3)taking an hour for an opponent to write a list.
4)having a pre-made game where your opponent keeps texting he is almost there...for 3 hours. then doesnt bring his army because he "forgot"
These are a few that stick out for me

I have ADHD so some parts of the hobby are huge humps for me to get over.

My worst hump is how i play the game. I constantly am thinking about my strategy and what i want to do, but i also have to remember dice rolls and rules while thinking up my strategy. I usually mess up one of them and end up confusing my opponents. when it comes to dice rolls i will often forget how many hits I get (or usually something to do with numbers). I also play a pseudo foot guard army so my turns also take a long time. I have to go back and re roll alot and that makes my long turns even longer. Worse it can possibly seem like i am cheating =(.

my opponents are fine people, its just i make a bunch of mistakes when it comes to working memory.

There are three things that some players do that I find more annoying then anything else in this hobby.

The first is not washing. If you want to play a game where people have to be in close contact with you, wash before you play.

The second is people who are to kids. Bring a list that is possible for them to play against, not a bloody WAAC list.

The final thing is people complaining about unpainted or badly painted models. If someone doesn't want to paint, that is their decision, NOT yours. Badly painted models may be the best someone can do, and complaining is putting them and their work down.

For example:

 bubz wrote:
Players bringing unpainted models to games week after week really bugs me. I get that it's time consuming and expensive and whatever, but put some effort into the hobby. I'd like to see some progress over the course of a month.

The condescending tone really helps this post by bubz make his point...

Windchild wrote:
There are three things that some players do that I find more annoying then anything else in this hobby.

The first is not washing. If you want to play a game where people have to be in close contact with you, wash before you play.

The second is people who are to kids. Bring a list that is possible for them to play against, not a bloody WAAC list.

The final thing is people complaining about unpainted or badly painted models. If someone doesn't want to paint, that is their decision, NOT yours. Badly painted models may be the best someone can do, and complaining is putting them and their work down.

For example:

 bubz wrote:
Players bringing unpainted models to games week after week really bugs me. I get that it's time consuming and expensive and whatever, but put some effort into the hobby. I'd like to see some progress over the course of a month.

The condescending tone really helps this post by bubz make his point...

I agree with all of this, but particularly the last one. Lately there seems to be lots of people on here complaining about unpainted models. Ive just started painting, and in two days ive painted about 1 and a half space marines and 1 Skorne light warbeast. If I had people around here to play against, i know id rather have spent that time playing. I do want to paint my own stuff but it takes some people a LONG time. Other people might have different priorities in THEIR hobby than you. Get over it.

morgoth wrote:

tanker19 wrote:
Actually one other guy really ticked me off. He was continuessly reaching down his pants to scratch his nuts. He reached over to hand me some models that were being removed, In asked him not to....I don't want my minis smelling like balls

Overly manly minis ?


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Melevolence wrote:


It's cheesy because he refuses to paint his models in order to gain advantages where he needs them. And I'm more than certain he changed Chapters from when we began to about halfway through the match. Though that is due to his gakky inability to write his list down proper so I know for certain what I'm facing. But he does that often, not just against me.

People like you think they have to suffer to gain that advantage.

People like him think they can play whatever they feel like.


Changing chapters is cheating of course, so if you have proof of that, you should just not play with him anymore - tell him you won't play if he cheats again.


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I dislike when people cheat.
Many people I've played cheat half an inch or more when moving their models.

I also dislike when people start telling you how they play for fun and fluff and playing for winning is bad mkay.

I dislike when people whine about balance issues during a game, when in fact 95% of the reason they're losing is their piss-poor deployment and movement phases.

He has to 'suffer' to make his army look cool? If he really wants it that way, I obviously can't make him paint. But to get mad at me because I find his army boring to look at is foolish. Doesn't change the fact his army looks boring.

I'm not telling anyone how to play. I find it rather That Guy when he hasn't decided his chapter until he sees who he faces. Playing to win is fine. No one goes into a game to lose. That would be like if my Orks had the ability to change Klans. Marines are unique in that they have the flexibility of x amount of chapter tactics. Which is nice. It's fluffy, it's cool. But when someone is being a tool and won't properly build his list before hand, just so he can see what he is facing so he can say "oh, yeah, these were x chapter by the way. Yeah, the chapter that gives me a blatant edge over your army. That's cool, right?"

So if I'm 'that kind of person' because I dislike total jerkwads. Sue me. I can tell you right now, if I ever did that in my group, I'd get weird looks. There's nothing on the line with the games played at our venue. So to take that sort of route with your games is considered That Guy. You don't have to agree. That's the great thing about opinions. This is mine.

Forgetting a special rule that influences rolls (such as "units within 12'' gain Preferred Enemy" or something) after those rolls have long been made, then complaining and wanting to go back to that point, even though it was a whole turn or more ago and so many things have happened that we don't even remember the state the board was in at the time.

Touching my stuff. Dropping dice on the floor then picking them up and continuing to use them. I am the sort of person who is far too clean, so I wouldn't be happy unless the offending die were washed or set aside to be washed.

Most of the time this wouldn't annoy me, but people not allowing 1pt above or below the total. Usually I'd say that the total is the total, but the Chaos Space Marines book is so full of strange numbers that it is often a nightmare to get things even.

 Frozen Ocean wrote:
Forgetting a special rule that influences rolls (such as "units within 12'' gain Preferred Enemy" or something) after those rolls have long been made, then complaining and wanting to go back to that point, even though it was a whole turn or more ago and so many things have happened that we don't even remember the state the board was in at the time.

Touching my stuff. Dropping dice on the floor then picking them up and continuing to use them. I am the sort of person who is far too clean, so I wouldn't be happy unless the offending die were washed or set aside to be washed.

Most of the time this wouldn't annoy me, but people not allowing 1pt above or below the total. Usually I'd say that the total is the total, but the Chaos Space Marines book is so full of strange numbers that it is often a nightmare to get things even.

I hate the last point as well. I'm pretty lenient in totals, often having let people go up to 15 points over. If it's not an event with prizes or anything, then why not? Though, pretty much all players in my area are good about that sort of thing, and often don't ask to go over if it's so they can cram one more of something ridiculous into their list.

What I really dislike is when people keep pressing on about the same rules over and over, even when they're shown they're wrong. It's like their pride in being 'right' is more important than a correct game procedure. I even avoid threads in YMDC with many pages (generally they're exactly what I described).

bibotot wrote:
I don't like people checking the rulebook or codex all the time when the rules are so basic.

Looks like we won't play each other that much (if the occasion comes up); I forget some stuff here and there and I like to check in the book for stuff one or both players don't know/forgot.

If I forget a re-roll, and the game has not progressed much (for example, still in the same shooting phase, and nothing else has shot that unit), I'll ask my opponent if he'll allow the re-rolls. If he says no, well too bad for me. I should have remembered.

 Dudecrap wrote:
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Reading this thread made me realized I have probably annoyed a few guys, without evening knowing i was doing so......

Realizing that is actually a pretty big step forward (to not doing that anymore (too much)).

 Happyjew wrote:
If I forget a re-roll, and the game has not progressed much (for example, still in the same shooting phase, and nothing else has shot that unit), I'll ask my opponent if he'll allow the re-rolls. If he says no, well too bad for me. I should have remembered.

Yep. There are times I forget a roll, or I forget to do something as well, though I tend not to ask to take it back. It's helped me remember over time :p Punish yourself enough and you'll soon not forget!

 Happyjew wrote:
If I forget a re-roll, and the game has not progressed much (for example, still in the same shooting phase, and nothing else has shot that unit), I'll ask my opponent if he'll allow the re-rolls. If he says no, well too bad for me. I should have remembered.

Oh, sure, I'm definitely fine with that sort of thing, especially when it's being asked rather than being complained at. Doing things that are on the level of "I forgot about It Will Not Die. That thing that died two turns ago might not be dead, so it could have killed that which means that that wouldn't have killed that, so it's not fair unless we reverse time" is totally different.

nothing, nothing at all, some of my mates annoy me (and vice versa) but that happens in and out of the game, all in all im a lucky chap

 koooaei wrote:

 krodarklorr wrote:

It also bug me when people play the Imperium.

Ha ha. Touché

A friend of mine would roll dice and if one of the dice so happened to roll into a model he would demand to re-roll the dice, at first it diddnt phase me but he made it a point that it was only fair especially when the roll was bad.
I think the biggest pet peeve of mine is when people go over the point limits to fit in that extra guy especially when its over 5 points.

 krodarklorr wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I hate it when players betray the Emperor by siding with foul xenos. Bloody heretics.

I hate it when people play Imperium armies and complain they don't have enough stuff. It also bug me when people play the Imperium.

Exalted!

Bugs me when someone removes models before I even roll to hit or roll to wound.

 FinkleLord wrote:
Bugs me when someone removes models before I even roll to hit or roll to wound.

Why would someone do that haha. Not saying its not happened to you I just don't get the logic.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 FinkleLord wrote:
Bugs me when someone removes models before I even roll to hit or roll to wound.

Why would someone do that haha. Not saying its not happened to you I just don't get the logic.

Because they assume they are going to die lol