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Right guys, some of you may already be aware of this but some may not. This will mainly affect those hobbyists in the UK but may well have a knock on effect on the rest of the world, although this remains to be seen.

In January the British Government shall be increasing VAT to 20% from 17.5.%. This is in response to the period when they reduced VAT during the recession to 15% and unfortunately will be for the forseeable future.

What this means is that prices will rise, and most relevant to the majority of us is that GW prices will increase. Whilst it isn't neccesarily a massive hike, I know there are those who already believe that GW product is overpriced and like to inform the world about it. So when the inevitable price rise happens it should be noted that this not GW who are doing it, but the British Government.

The other point to note, and one which is not a particular burden (unless you work in a store and have to reprice EVERYTHING! Grumble, grumble....) is that product will likely have silly prices. So no longer will things have nice round numbers, Terminators @ £27.00 for example, but will more than likely be something like £27.46. Paints for £2.38 and Battleforces for £51.23 etc (these are just examples to demonstrate the point and not actual GW prices before I'm picked up on it!)

So sometime in January the prices will rise for this very reason and as much as some would like it to be (and will no doubt still post that it is!) it is NOT GW's doing. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but hope this has been a heads up for you guys so it doesn't come as a shock to you when everything gets even more expensive than it already is.

As soon as I have any wind of actual GW prices post VAT increase I'll let you know! Or if anyone has any more info on this then please feel free correct me.

/rage

jk. I live in the US, and no longer buy from the GW directly (save for paint)
So it shouldn't affect me that badly.

A good post Decapitator, very well informed.

For me at least though, just about the only GW thing I buy these days are the novels and that's Black Library.
Nonetheless, well said.

Ah I knew they would do it

All british manufactures are hit by it.

Bad time for me to have started a tank army then. :/

The Blood Pact will have to get by on foot then.

Aye, thats a universal change for the UK.. hell it's going cause me a headache here in the shop.

I'm not looking forward to chasing all the errors I suspect will come with I.T's 'the computer will change it all for you automatically via download' rubbish.

I wouldn't be concerned here in the U.S as our GW products are namely made out of Memphis. Although I must sale my international sales have been really picking up lately so it's kind of a good thing for us sellers here in the U.S.

The Decapitator wrote:The other point to note, and one which is not a particular burden (unless you work in a store and have to reprice EVERYTHING! Grumble, grumble....) is that product will likely have silly prices. So no longer will things have nice round numbers, Terminators @ £27.00 for example, but will more than likely be something like £27.46. Paints for £2.38 and Battleforces for £51.23 etc (these are just examples to demonstrate the point and not actual GW prices before I'm picked up on it!)

That's assuming that GW does nothing but pass on the increase. Previous behaviour suggests that they will take the opportunity to push prices even higher and blame it on the VAT.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Aye, thats a universal change for the UK.. hell it's going cause me a headache here in the shop.

I'm not looking forward to chasing all the errors I suspect will come with I.T's 'the computer will change it all for you automatically via download' rubbish.

very true, but it's not so much that I'm worried about, it's the fact that we've got to go around and reprice everything in store, with random prices too! That just a pain in the backside whatever way you look at it!

Hey, maybe GW will soak up the VAT increase themselves rather than pass it on to the customers...

Fifty wrote:Hey, maybe GW will soak up the VAT increase themselves rather than pass it on to the customers...

Probably not

A man can dream,though. A man can dream.

Indeed I'd imagine we might have heard more rumblings of the increase by now. They might just be soaking it up! They put the prices down when it dropped (making change in the till a nightmare!) as to not do so was a dick move. But they won't necessarily raise them.

Hope that makes sense!

Now if you'll excuse me, Grandad has just bunged £100 into my account for Christmas, so I'm orf to procure Dreadstone Blight afore the shop shuts. Reallly should have checked my account before leaving the store!

Fifty wrote:Hey, maybe GW will soak up the VAT increase themselves rather than pass it on to the customers...

Nope and what they will also do is use the VAT increase to sneak in further price rises so that the prices are nicely rounded off...

Yeah. Good thing I'm going to be buying the next army I want to start in bulk this Christmas.

Fifty wrote:Hey, maybe GW will soak up the VAT increase themselves rather than pass it on to the customers...

That sir is asking way to much they couldn't handle it

I think instead of putting up prices by , like 46 pence or so , they will increase them by £1-£10 , and blame the vat rise ,although this isn't much insurance , a manager said they shouldnt and this was only a few days ago , but like i said this means nothing.But as the op said , just buy from other sources.

*sigh* price increases , guess how much a reaver titan body will be if fw put on the vat increase (which personaly i doubt) £480 , but if you have the money for a titan you'll probably be willing to pay slightly more.

my two penneth

'claw

The base MSRP won't change. VAT is like sales tax in the US no company alters their prices based on different states tax rates.

You guys have to pay VAT on internet sales also correct? Americans dodge sales tax by ordering everything on the internet or driving to Deleware.

They decreased their prices when VAT decreased, and they will have to increase them due to the increase, it is very unlikely that a 30 pence increase in the cost of a tank will cause GW to increase prices by another couple of quid to "round off the numbers".

Bah. Another thread about GW price rises!!?! Grumbles.

(That was a joke).

My thoughts are, and these are in no way substantiated as this is just my ideas, that GW may initially put prices up in line with the 20% rate resulting in weird (and slightly annoying) prices. Then in around 6 months time or whenever they are next planning on a price review, they will modify and possibly increase the prices to a more manageable and business/consumer friendly, acceptable set of pricing lines.

Just a thought anyway, whilst they could do all this at the same time as the VAT increase I highly doubt that they would as they are aware that this could be potentially damaging to the business as their customers just wouldn't put up with another price increase so soon. Give people a chance to get used to it, and the initial reasons for it as they are out of GW's control, and the fallout shouldn't be anywhere near as problematic.

Dont care. I dont buy GW anymore much.

carmachu wrote:Dont care. I dont buy GW anymore much.

And this contributes to the thread, how?

The Decapitator wrote:...they will modify and possibly increase the prices to a more manageable and business/consumer friendly, acceptable set of pricing lines.

Don't you ever get the slightest twinge of shame or self-loathing when you say things like this?

The prices are being adjusted, and posters are going up in stores about it, put mine up yesterday. Really not looking forward to having to re-price everything (other than books) on the day!

AlexHolker wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:...they will modify and possibly increase the prices to a more manageable and business/consumer friendly, acceptable set of pricing lines.

Don't you ever get the slightest twinge of shame or self-loathing when you say things like this?

I think you misunderstand me, what I mean is that they may change the price lines in the future so that they are round numbers or the usual £x and 99p. For example Terminators would go from random price (ex: £27.46) to business/consumer friendly and acceptable price (£27.99/£28.00).

I don't mean that it is a good thing to increase prices for no reason which is what I believe you have taken from my thoughts. However if I am wrong I apologise, but please elaborate on your comment as I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Just because I have started a thread informing the community about potential price rises, and my thoughts on how GW might try and get around certain pricing issues in no way makes me a proponent of increasing prices. Once again I apologise if my comments have mislead or confused anyone in any way whatsoever, and would appreciate comments if this is the case so I am able to make sure I explain myself clearer in the future.

The Decapitator wrote:

carmachu wrote:Dont care. I dont buy GW anymore much.

And this contributes to the thread, how?

And responding to it contributes how?

carmachu wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:

carmachu wrote:Dont care. I dont buy GW anymore much.

And this contributes to the thread, how?

And responding to it contributes how?

And commenting to this contributes h- sorry, couldn't resist!

carmachu wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:

carmachu wrote:Dont care. I dont buy GW anymore much.

And this contributes to the thread, how?

And responding to it contributes how?

Because I was legitimately asking you if you had a reason for making the statement you did knowing that it makes no real contribution to the thread. If you were able to give me an actual answer which proved that you had a valid reason behind your post rather than it being an argumentative and bloody minded comment then I would have apologised to you for making assumptions.

However, as it stands I believe I was still correct in asking what your post contributes as on the face of it, it doesn't appear to bring anything to the discussion. Which you actually re-enforced yourself by essentially repeating what I had said back to me in an effort to make it look like I had nothing to say either.

The Decapitator wrote:Just a thought anyway, whilst they could do all this at the same time as the VAT increase I highly doubt that they would as they are aware that this could be potentially damaging to the business as their customers just wouldn't put up with another price increase so soon. Give people a chance to get used to it, and the initial reasons for it as they are out of GW's control, and the fallout shouldn't be anywhere near as problematic.

In all honesty, the time between price increases has never stopped them from doing it before. The same goes for the perceived fallout; there are always a lot of complaints, but most people keep on putting out despite legitimate criticism over costs.

Here's the best solution for you... buy from the U.S. Your currency goes further here, and you don't pay VAT, or our taxes for that matter. Well that actually depends ont he state you order from as some states require that sales tax be put on no matter who buys it. Thankfully mine doesn't.. sooo shamless self permotion here battleroadgames.com. _.