The Citadel Finecast metal to resin change thread.

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**DAWARBOSS**

Well, I know everybody knows about the discontinuation of metal figs. But I just wanted to confirm it. At my FLGS all the GW metal kits are almost gone. This is because every time you spend 1000$ HKD (hong kong dollars, around the price two squads of marines) you get a free GW metal kit! so, sorry if this is in the wrong spot or something, but im pretty sure this means no more metal miniatures. well at least at my FLGS

Sorry, DAWARBOSS, your thread has been commandeered. Well, just made into the thread for this news. So people discussion of the Finecast hubub should go here for the time being. Thanks!

Manchu

Here's the announcement of the upcoming announcement from GW:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/blogPost.jsp?aId=16400050a

And read further below in the thread for more info regarding the pricing and initial range of models.

**SagesStone**

Or that they are in fact up for repackaging instead of the replacement to resin rumor.

**Happygrunt**

Which FLGS is this?

**Sidstyler**

Yeah, I'm not buying into this resin thing as easily as everyone else is, there would be too much work involved to make that change if you ask me. I really doubt you can keep using the same molds and just pour resin into them instead of metal, and I don't see them making new molds for metals that just came out within the past 6 months or less.

Unless I'm wrong and you can in fact do just that.

**DAWARBOSS**

what is repacking? my FLGS just moved, and me and my brother just got a warboss, a librarian and sergant chronus for free, and every week less and less metal figures are there. at first they went slowly, but know they are almost gone!

**Kanluwen**

"Repackaging".

Every so often, GW alters up product codes and the like for models. This is rumored to be one of these situations.

**DAWARBOSS**

Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, I'm not buying into this resin thing as easily as everyone else is, there would be too much work involved to make that change if you ask me. I really doubt you can keep using the same molds and just pour resin into them instead of metal, and I don't see them making new molds for metals that just came out within the past 6 months or less.

Unless I'm wrong and you can in fact do just that.

Maybe, but the only answer I can think of is the metal to resin rumor. Also, maybe their just making shelf space. The shop is manly taken up by tables.

**SagesStone**

Apparently a lot of the metals are going through a repackaging at the moment (there's some rumor floating about they're going to swap to resin as well), the reason they're giving the metals at your one has probably more to do with their move.

It's probably more likely they're changing the packaging of the blisters to have a new art style on the cardboard or maybe just throw them in those clamshell type packaging other companies have. Just have to wait until it's all done to see what happens, but I highly doubt the resin switchover.

Edit: going with Kanluwen's post, it's even more likely.

**DAWARBOSS**

n0t_u wrote:Apparently a lot of the metals are going through a repackaging at the moment (there's some rumor floating about they're going to swap to resin as well), the reason they're giving the metals at your one has probably more to do with their move.

It's probably more likely they're changing the packaging of the blisters to have a new art style on the cardboard or maybe just throw them in those clamshell type packaging other companies have. Just have to wait until it's all done to see what happens, but I highly doubt the resin switchover.

Yeah I guess, they do have really old models up their, like a pack of ten acro-flagellants and the most faded boxes.

**Alkasyn**

A similar thing is happening here : The guys have a sale for many metal blisters, not only GW ones - I guess that with the blisters being removed from the stores, they want to make more space for other things. I got a 25% discount on Harlequin blisters simply because the guy wanted to get rid of them and he still had a pile.

**reds8n**

I would also point out that when the GW Uk stores did their last stock check just the other week they were not required to count the blister packs in the stores.

.. as if, for example, they were all about to be written off as and stock/similar and sent back.

I wouldn't be too surprised if we start to see the end of the blister pack as they're replaced with boxes -- easier to transport, harder to steal, color artwork on the front for a more eye catching display etc etc -- as well.

**filbert**

reds8n wrote: I would also point out that when the GW Uk stores did their last stock check just the other week they were not required to count the blister packs in the stores.

.. as if, for example, they were all about to be written off as and stock/similar and sent back.

I wouldn't be too surprised if we start to see the end of the blister pack as they're replaced with boxes -- easier to transport, harder to steal, color artwork on the front for a more eye catching display etc etc -- as well.

And of course, they can whack a price increase on to account for the spangly new boxes/artwork...

**reds8n**

Well, eventually. I'd reckon more it'll be spun t'other way and we'll get something along the lines of them bravely holding the line on their prices, against a backdrop of a world gone mad. Rising tin prices, blood on the streets, cats mating with dogs, lambs laying down with lions etc etc etc

**Dark Apostle 666**

Is this happpening all over or just at "selected stores"?
Cos' if its happening everywhere then I need to get down to my FLGS, they've got tons of metal blister packs!

**reds8n**

Who knows ?

I would point out before you zoom down town that GW stores are unlikely to do this as they can claim the tax back -- like when they tear the covers off of the novels before sending them back.

**Sidstyler**

Yeah, if they put them in pretty new packages then I can see them getting a more than modest increase, which is bs since their blisters are already insanely priced. The DE archon, succubus etc. look awesome, but I still cringe blowing $15 on them. For one model. And those are the cheaper ones.

**reds8n**

Citadel Finecast FTW then eh ?

**Harry**

reds8n wrote: Citadel Finecast FTW then eh ?

If you like that sort of thing.

**reds8n**

Ah, cheer up fella. *hugs*

What's that expression about interesting times ...?

**BrookM**

If referring to "May you live in interesting times", it's a curse. Also, I'm still thinking hard about that word you had bolded out a few posts back.

**CURNOW**

Seems like a,hell of a lot of stock to write off just for a,packaging change ? If the price were changing then wouldn't you just use a over sticker like they have before ?
If the art was changing then they would just phase it through as its restocked ..as they have before ! Same if the blister was changing shape .
The cost of changing all blisters to boxs is a stupid outlay as well as not only are blisters cheaper to produce but they are cheaper to transport than boxs and you can see what's in them . GWs losses due to customer theft like most retail outlets would only make up 10 to 20 % of all there losses .

The only time anything like this has happend is when they changed from lead to white metel in the mid 90s .
The reason why the independent stores are giving them away is because they have them on sale or return and have been credited by GW for them ....

**reds8n**

The zoom ?!

No clue there I'm afraid, sorry.

But I'm serious about the stock take and the like being a serious indication of THINGS .

And it's more than just a repackage ; models like Ghaz and some of the recent DE models, which are in boxes are unavailable and have been for a while.

... much to the vexation of a fair few of their staff one could add, but we're all well acquainted with the.... the.....

hhmm.....

..err....

the..

... odd ways that GW go about things at times.

http://www.medius-associates.com/public_downloads/articles/Negotiating_with_the_British.pdf

**BrookM**

Yes, we do prefer, sometimes brutal, directness over hinting.

**Kid_Kyoto**

DAWARBOSS wrote:Well, I know everybody knows about the discontinuation of metal figs. But I just wanted to confirm it. At my FLGS all the GW metal kits are almost gone. This is because every time you spend 1000$ HKD (hong kong dollars, around the price two squads of marines) you get a free GW metal kit! so, sorry if this is in the wrong spot or something, but im pretty sure this means no more metal miniatures. well at least at my FLGS

HK dollars?

Is that Fun Altiers?

**logg_frogg**

Sidstyler wrote:Yeah, if they put them in pretty new packages then I can see them getting a more than modest increase, which is bs since their blisters are already insanely priced. The DE archon, succubus etc. look awesome, but I still cringe blowing $15 on them. For one model. And those are the cheaper ones.

Ha! $15... you shoudl check the price on Obliterators or Tyrant Guard lol!

Dropping the blister woud make a lot of sense. Even over the past year I know my FLGS has had to return/have new blisters supplied for free because the front of the blisters have come off during shipping.

Even when they ship blisters now they place them front to front in an additional box. Dropping the blister in favor of different packaging woudl make shipping easier and reduce materials cost if done properly!

Blisters are nice to look at but the days of going to the FLGS to happily flip through 900 different blisters are long gone (

) It has been a trend for several years now.

**elchristoff**

Wouldn't the best place to search is the GW website? as soon as the products become unavailable there, then the re-launch / re-package / replacement would be imminent?

**BrookM**

Maybe GW is changing formats, going for the easier to open and close clamshells that other companies use.

**Grimstonefire**

Supposedly today there will be an announcement.

**reds8n**

http://www.giftsforgeeks.org.uk/blog/

Starting from the 28th of May 120 products that were Games Workshop direct only items will be coming back on the shelves as resin or resin Hybrids. This new range “Citadel Fine Cast” range will be limited in number for the first few months, so we will be taking advance orders for them.

Here are the new recast products at the full RRP;

41-60 COMMANDER DANTE £10.50
53-60 LOGAN GRIMNAR £14.50
55-61 THE EMPERORS CHAMPION £9.50
48-63 SPACE MARINE CHAPLAIN WITH JUMP PACK £10.50
44-60 DARK ANGELS COMPANY MASTER £10.50
48-61 SM LIBRARIAN IN TERMINATOR ARMOUR £14.50
53-61 NJAL STORMCALLER £14.50
41-61 ASTORATH THE GRIM £12.50
43-60 ABADDON THE DESPOILER £14.50
43-61 HURON BLACKHEART £10.50
50-61 ORK WARBOSS WITH ATTACK SQUIG £14.50
50-63 ORK BIG MEK £14.50
50-65 ORK PAINBOY WITH GROT ORDERLY £10.50
46-61 ELDAR AUTARCH WITH POWER WEAPON £10.50
46-62 THE AVATAR OF KHAINE £22.50
46-63 HARLEQUIN DEATH JESTER £10.50
46-64 HARLEQUIN SHADOWSEER £10.50
47-61 COMMISSAR YARRICK £10.50
47-63 IMPERIAL GUARD LORD COMMISSAR £9.50
51-61 TYRANID ZOANTHROPE £15.50
51-63 TYRANID TYRANT GUARD £15.50
51-64 TYRANID HIVE GUARD £15.50
51-65 TYRANID BROODLORD £15.50
57-61 BROTHER CAPTAIN STERN £14.50
57-60 LORD KALDOR DRAIGO £14.50
57-62 CASTELLAN CROWE £10.50
57-63 INQUISITOR COTEAZ £10.50
45-60 DARK ELDAR ARCHON £9.50
45-64 LELITH HESPERAX £10.50
45-63 URIEN RAKARTH £10.50
45-61 DARK ELDAR SUCCUBUS £9.50
56-60 TAU ETHEREAL WITH HONOUR BLADE £9.50
83-62 CHAOS EXALTED HERO £9.50
83-63 CHAOS KHORNE EXALTED HERO £10.50
86-60 EMPIRE CAPTAIN WITH HAMMER & PISTOL £9.50
92-60 WOOD ELF HIGHBORN WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
84-60 DWARF LORD WITH HAMMER & SHIELD £9.50
84-61 DWARF RUNELORD WITH GREAT WEAPON £9.50
90-60 SKAVEN WARLORD £9.50
90-61 QUEEK HEADTAKER £10.50
90-62 DEATHMASTER SNIKCH £10.50
91-61 VAMPIRE LORD £9.50
89-60 GRIMGOR IRONHIDE £10.50
89-62 BLACK ORC BIG BOSS £10.50
87-60 CARADRYAN £10.50
85-61 DARK ELF ASSASSIN WITH TWO HAND WEAPONS £9.50
81-60 MALAGOR THE DARK OMEN £12.50
10-61 URUK-HAI WITH CROSSBOWS £14.00
10-62 URUK-HAI BERSERKERS £14.00
08-61 GOTHMOG (PELENNOR) £20.50
05-60 ELROND AND GIL-GALAD £15.00
10-60 SARUMAN AND GRIMA £15.00
02-60 GANDALF THE WHITE £20.50
04-60 ARAGORN (THE BLACK GATE) £20.50
04-62 THEODEN (HELM’S DEEP) £20.50
04-61 BOROMIR (ITHILIEN) £20.50
09-60 SULADAN THE SERPENT LORD £20.50
08-62 THE DARK MARSHAL (RINGWRAITH) £20.50
05-61 DAIN AND BALIN £15.00
97-60 SKULLTAKER £14.50
48-40 MARNEUS CALGAR AND HONOUR GUARD £36.00
48-41 SPACE MARINE TECHMARINE WITH SERVITORS £25.50
55-40 BLACK TEMPLARS SWORD BRETHREN SQUAD £25.50
48-42 SPACE MARINE STERNGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
48-43 SPACE MARINE VANGUARD VETERAN SQUAD £25.50
53-40 CANIS WOLFBORN £30.00
43-40 NURGLE DAEMON PRINCE £21.50
43-41 CHAOS SPACE MARINE RAPTORS £25.50
43-42 DEATH GUARD PLAGUE MARINES £25.50
50-43 BOSS ZAGSTRUK £14.50
50-40 GHAZGHKULL THRAKA £22.50
50-41 ORK TANKBUSTAS £25.50
50-42 ORK BIG MEK WITH SHOKK ATTACK GUN £23.00
46-41 ELDAR RANGERS £20.50
46-42 ELDAR DARK REAPERS £23.00
46-44 ELDAR STRIKING SCORPIONS £23.00
46-40 ELDAR FARSEER AND WARLOCKS £20.50
51-42 TYRANID LICTOR £15.50
51-40 TYRANID HIVE TYRANT £36.00
51-41 TYRANID PYROVORE £21.50
45-40 DARK ELDAR INCUBI £23.00
45-41 DARK ELDAR MANDRAKES £20.50
56-40 TAU SNIPER DRONE TEAM £23.00
83-42 ARCHAON THE EVERCHOSEN £30.00
83-43 CHAOS LORD ON DAEMONIC MOUNT £22.50
83-41 CHAOS DRAGON OGRE SHAGGOTH £36.00
86-41 LUDWIG SCHWARZHELM £22.50
86-40 KURT HELBORG £22.50
82-41 THE GREEN KNIGHT £22.50
82-40 KING LOUEN LEONCOEUR £30.00
92-42 WOOD ELVES TREE KIN £30.00
92-40 ORION KING IN THE WOODS £22.50
92-41 WOOD ELVES TREEMAN £36.00
84-40 THOREK IRONBROW £36.00
84-41 DWARF GYROCOPTER £23.00
84-42 DWARF BOLT THROWER £23.00
90-40 SKAVEN WARPLOCK JEZZAILS £30.00
91-40 VAMPIRE COUNTS VARGHULF £21.50
91-42 COUNT MANNFRED £22.50
91-41 VAMPIRE COUNTS BLOOD KNIGHTS £61.50
88-41 KROQ GAR £40.00
89-44 GOBLIN SPEAR CHUKKA £18.50
89-43 SAVAGE ORC GREAT SHAMAN ON WAR BOAR £15.50
89-41 ORC WARBOSS ON WYVERN £40.00
89-42 GOBLIN ROCK LOBBER £23.00
89-45 GORBAD IRONCLAW £30.00
89-40 AZHAG THE SLAUGHTERER £55.00
85-41 DARK ELVES REAPER BOLT THROWER £18.50
08-40 THE DARK LORD SAURON £25.50
08-42 GULAHVAR THE TERROR OF ARNOR £30.00
08-43 MORDOR TROLL CHIEFTAIN £25.50
02-40 THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING £37.00
97-42 FLAMERS OF TZEENTCH £15.50

**Swordwind**

Howls of joy at jump pack chaplain, autarch and ASTFGL PLASTICY ASPECT WARRIORS.

Less happy about increased prices.