Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)

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**Just Dave**

Yeah, I would much rather they used the transport as teleportation hubs (like the 'lith), rather than your typical monolith. I think that would be an interesting dynamic.

**Scarey Nerd**

Well, these new rumours specifically said "Carry 15", which doesn't suggest moving portals, it does suggest "get in and go" style transportation.

**Just Dave**

Oh yeah, I noticed that myself, but I guess teleportation does suit the Necrons more and does fit with the Necron's current mechanic - but not 5th editions...

**puma713**

Just Dave wrote:Oh yeah, I noticed that myself, but I guess teleportation does suit the Necrons more and does fit with the Necron's current mechanic - but not 5th editions...

I would like to see something like a stationary pylon that's AV14 all around with something like Living Metal that can forgo shooting to teleport a unit anywhere on the battlefield instead of a transport. Course, this is getting into wishlisting now and we want to steer clear of that.

However, if they are doing something like the Egyptian barge look as was posted earlier, I will be happy with the release.

**Scarey Nerd**

puma713 wrote:
Just Dave wrote:Oh yeah, I noticed that myself, but I guess teleportation does suit the Necrons more and does fit with the Necron's current mechanic - but not 5th editions...

I would like to see something like a stationary pylon that's AV14 all around with something like Living Metal that can forgo shooting to teleport a unit anywhere on the battlefield instead of a transport. Course, this is getting into wishlisting now and we want to steer clear of that.

However, if they are doing something like the Egyptian barge look as was posted earlier, I will be happy with the release.

I wouldn't call that wishlisting, I'd call it "wanting Apocalypse"

If they released Necron Obelisks that DS in immobile, possibly with a 1d6 scatter to compensate, with a portal and Gauss Flux Arcs, that'd be awesome. And I hope that's what happens, rather than these new rumours...

^Now that's wishlisting

**wyomingfox**

Chamleoneyes wrote:I wonder, if this "C'tan as elites" rumor is true, i wonder if the elite slot would be generic C'tan, and then there would be special character C'tan's like Nightbringer or Deciver. Or would Nightbringer and Deciver be totally dropped from the book.

Possibly, there would be a generic C'tan as you said who can get customizable powers (like the rumors mention) to represent the previous codex's named characters. IE, no named C'tan's but a customizable template.

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Just Dave wrote:Oh yeah, I noticed that myself, but I guess teleportation does suit the Necrons more and does fit with the Necron's current mechanic - but not 5th editions...

Yes, but if the rumors are to be believed, 5th edition's reign will end within a year's time.

**puma713**

wyomingfox wrote:
Chamleoneyes wrote:I wonder, if this "C'tan as elites" rumor is true, i wonder if the elite slot would be generic C'tan, and then there would be special character C'tan's like Nightbringer or Deciver. Or would Nightbringer and Deciver be totally dropped from the book.

Possibly, there would be a generic C'tan as you said who can get customizable powers (like the rumors mention) to represent the previous codex's named characters. IE, no named C'tan's but a customizable template.

Yeah, I don't really see the issue with this. I mean, if they're manifestations of Star Gods, then why wouldn't they be "customizable"? Couldn't the avatar take on any powers it wanted for whatever situation arose?

Seems logical to me. Oh wait. . .maybe that's the problem.

**Defeatmyarmy**

Azure wrote:The Pariahs? Gone? D: That makes me very sad to hear!!! The other stuff sounds pretty nifty though

Pariah arent guranteed gone, these are basically the best guesses the OP has made through discussions of the upcoming codex. I will be expecting the return of most units, if not to put them into retinues. If they do get a walker who allows gauss weaponry to be twin linked that will be lots of fun. Necron transports will make me very happy as they now cant get murdered by any assault based army. If immortals reduce cost AND become troops I will be very happy. 40-50 str. 5 assault 2 shots that glance vehicles? THANK YOU

**Trevak Dal**

Scarey Nerd wrote:Well, these new rumours specifically said "Carry 15", which doesn't suggest moving portals, it does suggest "get in and go" style transportation.

Maybe it can only teleport a 15 man unit at a time?

**Scarey Nerd**

Trevak Dal wrote:
Scarey Nerd wrote:Well, these new rumours specifically said "Carry 15", which doesn't suggest moving portals, it does suggest "get in and go" style transportation.

Maybe it can only teleport a 15 man unit at a time?

Warriors as 5-15, perhaps?

**Mar**

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/04/30/future-tact-necrom-rumor-review/

This guy apparently knows the whole codex and goes on to describe who is wrong and right among the rumour mills he has found and ends stating that Yak's are the most accurate yet nothing too new here but if you do go take your salt etc etc!

**Just Dave**

Mar wrote:http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/04/30/future-tact-necrom-rumor-review/

This guy apparently knows the whole codex and goes on to describe who is wrong and right among the rumour mills he has found and ends stating that Yak's are the most accurate yet nothing too new here but if you do go take your salt etc etc!

Yakface ascendant!

**Mar**

I didn't read the comments before I linked it but some real rage exists in there! but the guy raging does make the decent point that the person claiming to know the entire codex reveals nothing new and merely confirms another persons rumours which they were critical of other rumour mills doing just that. Balanced judgements aside I am more inclined to believe Yak's rumours then the others because he seems far more credible due to his position on the site and he has not followed the rest of the rumours but stuck his neck out for a very different set of rumours.

Regardless salt must always be carried in the search for truth.

**Sasori**

Just so it's here in the thread, Here is what was said on BloodofKittens Blog.

After discussing what to write next with my friend whose a huge Necron fan, she made some excellent points about what she thought you all needed to know this far out. I was going to write a full transcription of the codex from memory but she pointed out that I’d get more joy by frustrating and teasing as many people as possible. So today I’m going to write a review of the current rumors about our third favorite metal skeletons (#1 and #2 are of course the Busey Bot 9000 and Mary-Kate).

Now, imagine my confusion when a bunch of rumors for the Necrons pop’d up last week here on this side of the pan-dimensional temporal slant shunt. It’s pretty clear from a cursory reading that there are a lot of attention seekers out there. They just make a wish list with about 50% “no brainer” guesses. This way their list looks like they have some inside information, and everyone talks about what they are saying. It’s pretty apparent when you know what is actually happening with the books. If you go back and look at the actual track record of these so called “sources” you’ll see that only the vaguest guesses usually come true. Many times they will even be so wrong that they must pull a “printing error made them change it”. This is my favorite, usually when it comes down to what army is next. Oh, the Tau rumors are the MOST glaringly hilarious of the “printer error” rumors. Mark my words, within 6 months it will be reported that there was a “Printing Error” that forced the Tau back.

So let’s examine some of those rumors! I’ll be using a post made on Bell of Lost souls, this is in no way an admonishment of them, and they do a service attempting to collect all the rumors from various locations. You can read their whole article HERE. I’m just going to use this list because it is a convenient place to grab a broad “collection” of the chatter.

Let’s start with the block attributed to Kroothawk. While his release date is close, it shows that his source (if he has one) isn’t close to GW corporate. It might be a tester or just a guess. Much of what he claims (necrons cheaper, wbb tweaks, new plastic kits) are just no brainer guesses. The bits about Necron Maladies and the list of new lords is just fabrication.

There are a couple nuggets of truth in here, maybe on accident! Immortals do get a new kit and do have some new options. Pariahs are not “overhauled” but instead “removed”, although they do make decent models for a retinue. As for the colored rods… well they got sold in a blister (40 to a pack) on my side of the P.D.T.S.S. but that was a second wave thing, so maybe they go in the boxes over here. I can’t rule it out.

MadCowCrazy weighs in with another mix that needs distilling a bit. He makes a lot of blanket “duh” statements, like tech-upgrades instead of psychic powers which follows the current theme of gadgets. The C’Tan aren’t out of the codex and Immortals aren’t troops because of a Lord… they just are. He dials it in too much, however, with “Phase Out” being reworked (its removed), hinting that some of what he is claiming is just good guesses.

These good guesses might be backed up by an actual source somewhere, however. Matt Ward is indeed working on the codex. For all the hate he receives, it should be noted that he doesn’t make his decisions in a void. It’s easy to blame him for things, but that just shows a significant ignorance on complainer’s part. The colored rods rumor pops back up here, giving it more weight. The new fast attack unit isn’t what he claims it to be. He is describing a new Elite choice… but he is still off by a wide margin. The “lawn mower” he describes is also not a simple “lots of shots” weapon. It’s much cooler than that.

Finally we come to Tabitha, who I will assume is a lady. She sums up a good number of other rumors in a vague way. Anything she repeats is just as wrong/write as the other guys.

Her release date is a bit closer, however, and her overall details are just a little closer. Either she is a much better guesser or she is a tester. The one thing she is way off on is the “no transports”.

All in all, these rumors miss out on a few of the big “OMG” moments in the codex. They don’t make a big enough deal about Dedicated Transport options or the Rays, Gauss, Tesla themes that run throughout the codex. The over-all “50’s sci-fi robot monster” feeling is grim-darked up nicely and the codex has some awesome toys in it to make you want to make “VRRRBBRRAAAAMMMM” noises as you carve a line through enemy units.

Hmm, maybe I should write up a tactica for one of the weapon types.

P.S. We have these new rumors. They came out while I was writing this article! They are accurate to what happened over on the REAL Earth. It has a few minor errors. Mostly stuff that can easily be attributed to word of mouth explanations and repetition from memory. So all in all, there is your jackpot Necron fans.

Good stuff guys.

**puma713**

Too funny. The guy bemoaning others for putting out false information won't give you any information other than, "they're wrong". Because why? Because his friend suggested that it would be more fun. . .

I stopped reading the article when I read that his friend was a she. We all know there are no girls on the interwebs.

**H.B.M.C.**

Bloodofkittens certainly thinks highly of himself...

**ashikenshin**

yeah it was kind of weird he said: everyone else copies other people's rumors then goes to say oh yakface's rumors are the correct ones.

I hope we hear more soon.

**wyomingfox**

puma713 wrote:Too funny. The guy bemoaning others for putting out false information won't give you any information other than, "they're wrong". Because why? Because his friend suggested that it would be more fun. . .

I stopped reading the article when I read that his friend was a she. We all know there are no girls on the interwebs.

ashikenshin wrote:yeah it was kind of weird he said: everyone else copies other people's rumors then goes to say oh yakface's rumors are the correct ones.

I hope we hear more soon.

True but he does mention or hint about several items that Yak brought up in the OP...and his post preempts (comes before) Yaks by a day.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Bloodofkittens certainly thinks highly of himself...

TasteTaste was the originator of BOK and is also a poster; BadTaste, the one who wrote this particular article, seams to be a separate poster.

**Mar**

Posted my general opinion over in the link not entirely sure why I have the urge to inform you all! but hey go go dakka!

**Korraz**

DaemonJellybaby wrote:
Scarey Nerd wrote:

Phil's doing Sisters. Look forward to Cruddance, though!

Does that mean HH gunship squadrons?
I quite liked the IG codex, it was very clean cut and was a good update of the previous edition

Well enjoy your well nerf'd crons people!
so the question we must now ask is do you like your nerfing medium, rare or well and truly nerf'd to a crisp?

Jelly

I'm sorry to piss on your parade (well, actually I'm not), but...Tau are way out there. Ward could still write them, no problem.
Even worse...Tau might be Codex Chaos of 5th edition. Last in the line with a strange design philosophy, stuck for an entire edition between here and there, failing at doing anything properly.

**xcasex**

if you google "matt ward warhammer" its not pretty. wonder what prospective employers might think in the future for anyone named "matt ward"

**Kroothawk**

Just two remarks on the BoK summary:
1.) They list me as a source because Bell of Lost Souls made a false quote as usual (well at least they now STATE sources!

): I just quoted a Warseer poster without commenting. Same with MadCowCrazy, but he is less polite when commenting on BoK

2.) The rumours from real earth mentioned at the end link to the Yakface's rumours in the first post of this thread.

**wyomingfox**

I feel like I am missing something? BOK rumor rant is dated 4/30/11. Yaks OP is dated 5/1/11.

I understand how he is being a dick...I don't understand how he is copy-pasting DakkaDakka or Yakface when his post precedes this thread's OP?

**MadCowCrazy**

Pfft, I wouldn't take Blood of[Mod Edit - Please don't do that...thanks!] serious for anything. All they do is copy other peoples rumours and claim them as their own, at least that is what they have done so far.

I found it slowed that the poster somehow believes me and Kroothawk are the sources behind allot of the rumours, we both clearly collect rumours other people have posted into a single thread. I do it at Heresy and Kroothawk does it here yet this guy thinks we are the people posting the the rumours? Then he has the nerve to come claim we are making it all up, getting lucky here and there and wishlisting most of it. He does all this yet does not provide a single new rumour himself.... heck I can do that as well, everyone who has ever post a rumour about the Necrons is a liar, only I know the truth about the codex but I wont post any information at all. I've never posted any rumours of my own or am a credible person on the internet but believe me over everyone else because they are wrong....indeed....

/facepalm
/rant over

Please don't use "slowed" as a synonym for stupid. That's against our rules.

**ashikenshin**

because he edited it? At first he only said every other rumor was false without giving anything new himself.

**Mar**

I don't know how he knows what Yak says before he says it but I just pointed out before its a bit hypocritical to judge others one thing then doing the same thing. Also Kroothawk I am sure us Dakka folk know you was just repeating what you heard!

**Nightbringer's Chosen**

wyomingfox wrote:I feel like I am missing something? BOK rumor rant is dated 4/31/11. Yaks OP is dated 5/1/11.

I understand how he is being a dick...I don't understand how he is copy-pasting DakkaDakka or Yakface when his post precedes this thread's OP?

April has 31 days now?

**ceorron**

After discussing what to write next with my friend whose a huge Necron fan, she made some excellent points about what she thought you all needed to know this far out. I was going to write a full transcription of the codex from memory but she pointed out that I’d get more joy by frustrating and teasing as many people as possible. So today I’m going to write a review of the current rumors about our third favorite metal skeletons (#1 and #2 are of course the Busey Bot 9000 and Mary-Kate).

Come on these arn't to be believed we know Mary-Kate is our number one most favoritest robot.

**Moopy**

Tacobake wrote:No Pariahs == fail

Hardly. In the years of playing Necron players at local events or tournaments (Such as Kulbacon) in WA and CA I've never once seen that unit taken.

**Sasori**

Moopy wrote:
Tacobake wrote:No Pariahs == fail

Hardly. In the years of playing Necron players at local events or tournaments (Such as Kulbacon) in WA and CA I've never once seen that unit taken.

I think he is implying that instead of readjusting the unit accordingly to bring up to speed, just removing it is "Fail"