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TechMarine1 wrote:
You mean like how, in the new edition, the Emperor told Guilliman that he would have to protect the Tau because of their resistance to Chaos?

Did he actually say that? I think that is completely false, because the tau had not even evolved yet. They got discovered 789.M35, 5,789 years after the Horus Heresy, and then they were just equivalent to cavemen, and no one knew anything about them. That is unless Empy had some really good seer abilities, but I'm sure he didn't because he had no idea about the HH before it started.

I think he's referring to the crud rumor that came out before sixth that said that.

I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

Well, the UM codex was supposed to be designed to be easy on new players, so it makes sense to have SM in the starter, I suppose. Though they did rather screw over any new players who wanted to be Chaos in this ed...

And the DA aren't exactly competitive...

Seems like a savvy business decision to have both the starter armies amongst the weakest books...

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

Why would they use anything other than the most popular army in the starter? No other army really even comes close to the popularity of space marines. Sisters Vs Demons? Might as well not even make a starter set :p I imagine 40k could survive if you remove EVERY other army besides space marines (IE Horus Heresy).. yet the game couldn't survive if you simply remove space marines.

 Eldarain wrote:
Seems like a savvy business decision to have both the starter armies amongst the weakest books...

Well it's certainly a fun way to royally screw the newbies. Which is yet another deterrent.

It's hard enough to get them to join, without GW's extra help.


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 Kirasu wrote:

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

Why would they use anything other than the most popular army in the starter? No other army really even comes close to the popularity of space marines. Sisters Vs Demons? Might as well not even make a starter set :p I imagine 40k could survive if you remove EVERY other army besides space marines (IE Horus Heresy).. yet the game couldn't survive if you simply remove space marines.

If that happened, I'd be off making my own molds of current 40k models. Possibly. Or I'd be too lazy...

I'd quit though.

 Kirasu wrote:

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

Why would they use anything other than the most popular army in the starter? No other army really even comes close to the popularity of space marines. Sisters Vs Demons? Might as well not even make a starter set :p I imagine 40k could survive if you remove EVERY other army besides space marines (IE Horus Heresy).. yet the game couldn't survive if you simply remove space marines.

Well, they don't have to have SM in every set. They could still do Imperium vs. chaos of some sort, or they could do imperium v alien. There are two other imperial forces available other than SM.

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

IIRC, Space Marines of some sort have been in each pack since at least 4th, well before I even started 40k or LotR, but what about something like just xenos vs. xenos? Daemons? Guard? Sisters??

Or are starters some sort of pro-SM propaganda?

Since 2nd. RT didn't have a starter set.

SM are the best selling army. Why wouldn't they include them in the starter?

 KommissarKiln wrote:
I wonder if factions besides SPEHSS MEHREENS will be used in the next starter (even if this will be e6.1, there has to be a 7th eventually)

Other space marines, just like in the current starter. They'll do dark angels vs space wolves. Or blood angels versus grey knight. Or vanilla marines versus vanilla marines. The only important thing is to put MOAR SPEHSS MEHREENS !

Nah, its way to early. If GW were to be doing this they would be wasting money on all of the 6e codex books. A rumor is a rumor.

 pretre wrote:
SM are the best selling army. Why wouldn't they include them in the starter?

To avoid discounts of the best-selling army?

 Kroothawk wrote:
To avoid discounts of the best-selling army?

There's cynicism Kroot, then there's whatever it is you've become as of late.

Marines have always been in the starter box.

Can we be done with this silly thread yet? I'm agreeing with H.B.M.C. for feth's sake!

 pretre wrote:
Can we be done with this silly thread yet? I'm agreeing with H.B.M.C. for feth's sake!

This! And Space Marines all the way in the new starter set if there will be one this year.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
There's cynicism Kroot, then there's whatever it is you've become as of late.

Is this the kind of ad hominem that you criticise when others do it but which is totally okay when you do it?

edit: NM

Shake the paradime box!

Eldar versus Dark Eldar!

 kronk wrote:
Shake the paradime box!

Eldar versus Dark Eldar!

Tau vs. Tyranids with 'tides and taranchala-like t'ings! Tremendous turmoil as two sides tussle for total control! Tracking systems vs termites! Terminator tearing terrors! Truly tremendous tank-like suits! I'm running out of Ts!

Sisters and Necrons. Will never happen, but I want Sanctuary 101, dammit!

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Sisters and Necrons. Will never happen, but I want Sanctuary 101, dammit!

Maybe that would spawn a Necron Flayed-One Queen that wears a proscuito dress... ala Lady Gaga.

/ I kill me.

- J

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Sisters and Necrons. Will never happen, but I want Sanctuary 101, dammit!

Yeah, we need our vengeance !

 Kroothawk wrote:
Is this the kind of ad hominem that you criticise when others do it but which is totally okay when you do it?

Consider the following two statements:

"You are wrong because you are an idiot."
"You are wrong and you are an idiot."

The first is an ad hominem. The second isn't (it's just insulting). I did neither.

Probably best if everyone ended the Off Topic and Rule #1 Violating types of things - thanks!

Well, saying that thread has chilled out last weeks is an understatement, however latest discussions were about which armies were going to fit in the next starter box, and here are some fresh news.
From Bell of Lost souls, Larry Vela :

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Launch Window - @September
Rules Summary : Updated Mini-rulebook contains FAQs, minor tweaks and clarifications, and much of Stronghold Assault rolled into a new shiny package.
Miniatures included: @70

Armies:
Blood Angels (plastic quick assembly)
- Assault Marine Squad
- Tactical Marine Squad
- Death Company Squad
- Captain (kitted out for assault)
- Chaplain
- Sanguinary Priest (limited edition, similar to the Dark Vengeance mini was)

Orks (plastic quick assembly)
- 'Ardboys (full mob)
- Nobs (small squad)
- Warboss
- Big Mek
- Ork themed fortification

This was described as simply an updated Warhammer 40,000 Starter Set and specifically "NOT 7th Edition."
____________________________________________________________________________________


Now there is some new flow in the rumormill.

The big question with that will be, will it be new FAQs or just the existing FAQs?

Given that they've not produced a real FAQ for months now...

AoBR got my Ork craze going, so if the new starter has more Orks I'm a-okay with that.

Yeah if that happens I'm buying 3 of them (again...) but I don't buy it.

I also have to say that I like the switch to 'Ard Boyz in the box. I know they're not necessarily the greatest thing for competitive play, but when introducing new players to the game having one side that gets 0 saves vs a side that ignores 2/3 wounds just makes for an awfully unbalanced game. This should help even things up and make the game a bit more appealing to both new players.