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I caught myself looking at the Lizardmen models on GW's site and wondering how awesome it would be if they were a race in 40k. Just a futuristic version of them. Some people argue that Tyranids fill this spot in the 40k universe but honestly I don't get the comparison between them. The Nids are just basically GW's version of the race from the Alien's setting and some would say the bugs in Starship Troopers are a definite inspiration for them as well.

If it could be done who would play them? I think I would if they were designed properly.

The bugs in the ST movie post-date the Tyranid by many years. The bugs in the ST book were actually intelligent, and had civilization and stuff... and were just one of many xeno cultures at war with humanity.

Lizardmen could be in 40K, just the members of some tiny Xeno culture, maybe possessing a small handful of star-systems... like the Tau, on a fraction of their already tiny scale. This, of course, means they will be inevitably crushed by the Imperium.

Well they are servants of the old ones aren't they? And I think the old ones have been mostly taken care of in the 40k universe haven't they, what with the war in heaven (or whatever the necrons were a part of) and all?

But it would be interesting to see the lizardmen as a kind of fallen-ish race. Working to return the old ones, no one knows if it would actually work, they get prayers or something to the last vestiges of their gods instead of psykers, dessicated slann on hoverchairs, templeguard with plasma halberds which double as plasma guns (or if not plasma some kind of shooting/hitting staff combo), all that jazz. It could be really cool.

Psienesis wrote:The bugs in the ST movie post-date the Tyranid by many years. The bugs in the ST book were actually intelligent, and had civilization and stuff... and were just one of many xeno cultures at war with humanity.

Lizardmen could be in 40K, just the members of some tiny Xeno culture, maybe possessing a small handful of star-systems... like the Tau, on a fraction of their already tiny scale. This, of course, means they will be inevitably crushed by the Imperium.

Pretty sure that between the constant Ork, Tyrannid and Chaos threats that are constantly pushing against the borders of the imperium, they're hardly in any real position to be crushing anyone. That's why the Tau are still around.

To stay OT, I think that while the Lizard Men are cool I think that GW should work on a way to keep their current codices update before they start adding even more races. When we have, Tau, BT, DA, Chaos (marines and daemons), and Sisters in dire need of an update (and to a lesser extent, Orks and Eldar), I think that the addition of yet another faction would just make the players of these armies even more irate.

The Lizardmen of 40k were called Slaan.

They were slightly more frog than lizard though.

Yeah theres a pic in one of the 40k rule books of the slaan or such.

Probly the current book or last one I think.

The Rak'Gol are pretty cool and lizard-ish

http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/ffg_content/rogue-trader/news/koronus-bestiary/preview2/korunus%202%20of%204.pdf

I think it was the 3rd ed rulebook that had them in it. Perhaps they could show up as an allied race for the Tau? They already got Kroot and Vespids, might as well get Demiurg (Squats), and the Slaan fellows as well.

It's a nice idea, I like the Lizardmen, and they're going to be my second fantasy army once I sort my Skaven.

I also know someone on here made a lizardmen in space, kibashing lizardmen and Tau.

Why not head over to 40k proposed rules and see if there's already a lizardmen in space 'dex, and/or start your own?

Turok Lizards would make me very happy, I want T-rex erm I mean huge armoured carnosaurs and artillery stegadons. Is that too much to ask?

I've been working on converting some Lizardmen to work with the Ork army. Originally started by my girlfriend but when she got over it I kept it moving. Not the same but still close =P

I use them as Kroot

DarkDrgon wrote:I use them as Kroot

Haha, I recently decided to use the ones I had from the old Fantasy boxed set as trophies.

So Lizardmen do exist in 40K.

I like your conversions though. I think the reason why a lot of these races never "made it" to 40K is just the sheer impracticality of it. In Fantasy, all of the armies fight more or less the same way (before you comment, notice I put it in bold. Think about it). In 40K, armies have niches and themes. So every time they want to introduce a new range, especially a Xenos one, they have to figure out what niche it fits into, what theme. And, especially with a Xenos army, whether or not it will simply pull sales from an existing Xenos army, instead of creating its own. New molds are a big investment, so they're looking at ROI. New Space Marine chapters are almost always a winning situation, especially if they can make the codex competitive/broken.

But there have been plenty of mention of "Lizardman-like" aliens in 40K. It's just that the 40K universe is one dominated by Mankind, instead of Fantasy where the human empires sit nestled in amongst those of other races. If you're introducing a new "army" they need a reason to exist, which isn't as easy as it sounds. Just introducing the Tau was quite a stretch, and required the "Separated by Warp Storms!" weaksauce hand-waving explanation to be pulled out. Most of the time, the other minor alien races continue to exist in the 40K universe because they are very small in comparative size and haven't made themselves enough of a pain in the ass to cause a planetary Governor to ask for assistance in wiping them out, and the Imperium is such a bureaucratic nightmare that nobody ties the Emperor's shoes in the morning unless there's been forms filled out in triplicate.

motyak wrote:Well they are servants of the old ones aren't they? And I think the old ones have been mostly taken care of in the 40k universe haven't they, what with the war in heaven (or whatever the necrons were a part of) and all?

But it would be interesting to see the lizardmen as a kind of fallen-ish race. Working to return the old ones, no one knows if it would actually work, they get prayers or something to the last vestiges of their gods instead of psykers, dessicated slann on hoverchairs, templeguard with plasma halberds which double as plasma guns (or if not plasma some kind of shooting/hitting staff combo), all that jazz. It could be really cool.

A common mistake from those that do not know that 40k and WHFB are two seperate universes, the old ones in WHFB are different from the 40k universe.

Veteran Sergeant wrote:

Is.... is that a space marine with a Shuriken Catapult on his pack?

Hell yeah it is sir. It's from the Tall Scale project log in my signature. My whole army is inspired by the artwork from Rogue Trader (but current edition rules compliant). In the old days, Space Marines actually had a small chance of wielding a shuriken catapult, and there were Marine models with them (1 scout, 1 PA that I remember). Plus, Marines were routinely depicted as having skulls and other strange trophies on their armor, long before it became the in thing for the Chaos Marines.

For the fluff behind the army is that they are currently engaged with Eldar/Dark Eldar corsairs, and the shuriken catapult has been looted off of a body. Maybe as a souvenir. Maybe for questionably heretical use, who knows? The previous campaign was against the Tau, so a few of the Marines have some Tau souvenirs (the lizardman skull being explained as a Tau auxiliary). The Marine in my avatar has a Firewarrior helmet mounted on his shoulderpad. As well as a severed Eldar head in his hand.

Figure they be a bit DEish for me.....course..with all these conversion ideas running in my brain...I be using green stuff to convert them into a Iksar Shadowknight from Everquest

I was thinking about this myself... I reckon that a combination of the Tau and Lizard men would look awesome, and they would be an elite army like the space marines. They would probably specialise in medium range (like a necron army) to close combat (like orks (and lizardmen in Fantasy)) as they are advanced enough to have strong ranged weapons but, seeing as they were created by the old ones they would exploit their makers arch enemy's (necrons) weakness and specialise in close combat as that is one of the Crons biggest flaws. I would totally play as them.

DeffDred wrote:The Lizardmen of 40k were called Slaan.

They were slightly more frog than lizard though.

No the Slaan of FB became the Slaan of 40k. I personally think that the Lizardmen of 40k were in fact the old ones.

I have been thinking about a similar thing, only bigger. As in big units. Pretty much like Tyranids but without the swarms/meat shield units, so the smallest unit would use a 40mm base. Like... Space Dinosaurs! Just to give the Power Armor armies a real challenge.

Would nice to have a xenos race that wasn't space elves or outright evil.
And it'd be an excuse to have t-rexes...with guns

Ah feth yeah!

Whoa!

Pretty much what I was thinking, but without the lasers. Space Dinos won't need lasers.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/347132.page

You're welcome...

fething hell they're badass :|

Testify wrote:Would nice to have a xenos race that wasn't space elves or outright evil.
And it'd be an excuse to have t-rexes...with guns

Ah feth yeah!

Where did you find this picture? im sure this is from a really old cartoon from the 80s or 90s, if anyone knows it please tell me.

And to the original question, there are thousands if not millions of species in the galaxy, a reptillian one more than likely to be around, in fact im sure GW has mentioned one before fighting alongside the Tau adn i think they would play much like the kroot.

Codex Slaan.

http://www.inisfail.com/40k3/slann3-codex.html

borneo424 wrote:

Testify wrote:Would nice to have a xenos race that wasn't space elves or outright evil.
And it'd be an excuse to have t-rexes...with guns

Ah feth yeah!

Where did you find this picture? im sure this is from a really old cartoon from the 80s or 90s, if anyone knows it please tell me.

And to the original question, there are thousands if not millions of species in the galaxy, a reptillian one more than likely to be around, in fact im sure GW has mentioned one before fighting alongside the Tau adn i think they would play much like the kroot.

The cartoon was Dino Riders.