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Rebooting thread, please do not derail by wish-listing.
I will rework the presentation as soon as I have spare time.
Imperial Guard is said to be renamed to Astra Militarum by various sources (can't retrieve the rumour date for the moment). Seemed serious from the start though.



Update february 6th , from 40k Radio :

So some exciting news.
A listener of ours was at a GW store today that mistakenly received a shipment of some unreleased items.
It was the plastic Ogryn kit. The rename is confirmed as they were called Militarum Auxillia.
Boom! Nailed it.
-Rik

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february the 5th, from the well known "flip a coin" accuracy blog :

via a reader that must stay anonymous on Faeit 212
Hello Natfka, I am not normally a rumour guy.

However, I have today seen (and held) something I was not supposed to.
"Astra Militarium Bullgryns"

Shrink wrapped box ready for sale; I don't know what that implys about
release time.

Three Plastic "Bullgryns" which seem to be armoured Ogryns with large
riot style shields. Looked to be on the same bases as the Space Marine
Centurians. They are painted in a new looking blue/gray urban cammo.
They have armoured looking torsos and loin cloth type things made out
of tank tracks (!). They also seemed to have cybernetic enchancement
(ala Boneheads).

Looking at the back of the box, there was a small picture indicating
they could also be built as traditional Ogryns, which retain there
T-shirts and Ripper guns look. The Orgryn on the back had a Green T
shirt.
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Rest is copy / paste from old thread :

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From Faeit212, Natfka, september, 2nd :

* Company Command is now the only, real HQ you can chose but you can swap the Commander for a Lord-Commissar.
* Primaris Psyker are now Advisors, Bodyguards are gone .
* Only Cadian named characters in this document.

* Salamander is in as transport for CCS/PCS, open-topped Chimera with Autocannon, transports 6.

* Engineeers are Elite now (but 1-3 per slot), can buff squads in the vicinity (think Force Field and such).
* Priests must join a squad and won’t take HQ slots.

* Veterans, "get some lose some".
Size 5-10, can take 1 heavy wepaon or 1 special weapon per 5 soldiers.
Bastogne is gone but every Veteran Sarge can give orders now.
Can still take shotguns and get option to take pistol & CCW. New Veteran ability allows charging out of transport.

* Special Weapon and Heavy Weapon Squads are now 10 men each.

* Vendetta is gone, instead Valkyries can take the Vendettas-loadout for +45 points.

* Only one entry for Sentinels, no armor upgrade, closed cabin has no game effect but is just cosmetical.

* Thunderer/Destroyer is in.
Thunderer is a cheap Demolisher with nothing but a hull-mounted Demolisher cannon.
Destroyer is a dedicated tank hunter with a laser-lance weapon. Have a, hull-down“ rule that makes them extremely hard to kill if in cover, seem to be area-control units.

* There was talk about a new Cadian Veteran plastic set, 5 miniatures with all options.

* Heavy Weapon Squad will be repacked to include one sprue of standard Cadian infantry.
* Special Weapon Squads might get their own box with a new special weapon sprue (which is also used for Veteran box).

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september, 20th
Larry Vela on Bell of Lost Souls :

These rumors come to us in multiple sets, and we have ordered them from most trustworthy to least based on a variety of "truthifying methods":

The Probable stuff:
IG Veterans/Stormtroopers (plastic 5-man box)
Hydra
Artillery combo-kit
Roughriders (new plastic box)

The Possible stuff:
IG Regiment Doctrines: Each Regiment (Cadian, Catachan, etc...)has doctrines, similar to SM Chapter tactics. Examples listed were:
Cadians - may issue 2 orders to a unit
Catachans - Move-thru-cover, and Jungle Fighter (???)

Thunderbolt flyer: Very heavy armor, but cannot jink.

The Salt-mine
Imperial Robots - 2 new robots, requiring an Admech handler/enginseer.

Knight Paladin - Taller than riptide, not as tall as Wraithknight. Vanquisher cannon and Uber-chainsword are standard load out. May upgrade to Punisher Cannon, Uber-Fist with Inferno Flamers



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november , 1st
Posted by Larry Vela on Bell of Lost Souls :

* Codex Imperial Guard launches in March 2014
* Look for many refreshes in the codex rules.
* Expanded command system with the return of Doctrines
* The missing IG tanks will be released:
- Griffon/Collosus/Medusa artillery kit
* Stormtroopers released
* Veterans released
--> These two infantry kits include many, many optional bits to build command squads and even penal troops.
* New centerpiece kit is a Horus Heresy era tank.[/list]


+ + + +
(thanks to kroothawk)
Noel at Wargamer wrote :

-‘Mission Objectives’ are potentially a new special rule for the Imperial Guard, although my channels are a little dry on this front, one can only begin to imagine what they do. I heard on the grapevine, that this special rule would allow even sergeants, to order ‘minor orders’ to their own unit.

-Formerly Forge World dominated vehicles will take a tour in the Imperial Guard codex. This means we could see such units as the Forge World Destroyer Tank Hunter as part of the upcoming codex. Although one finds it extremely unlikely they will receive a new plastic kit.

-Headquarters units have seen a massive shake up. Above the whole organisation, some units have been deleted, others modified. You start by buying a command squad, this is then changed by swapping the officer for a commissar, if one wishes too. The three present advisors have been retained, with the addition of the Primaris Psyker as a command squad advisor.

-Ministorum Priests are back in the same manner as before, this time though it has been rumoured they increase the ranged output of the unit, as well combat potential. Maybe in the form of the ‘preferred enemy’ special rule, who knows?

-The mighty (or not so mighty Enginseer) has stayed relatively the same, except for the transition from HQ to either Elite or Heavy Support. But what excites me the most, are their roles on the field of battle. Apparently they will act much like Royal Courts in the Necron army, bought with certain upgrades, then attached out to other units, to confer certain benefits to that unit.

-In terms of repacking, it is believed that special weapon squads will receive their own box set. This is also rumoured to be extended to veteran squads and heavy weapon teams. Coming in boxes of five models, with a wide variety of special equipment.

-Moving on from the veteran weapon squads re-boxing, it is believed that they will be changing their position on the battlefield. With smaller squad sizes, veterans seem to be taking a fire support role, that focuses on battlefield specialisation.

-Vendetta and Valkyrie gunship’ will more than likely be streamlined into one unit. Also it is believed that the squadron option will be lost, and an increase in points to balance out the power of Vendetta and Valkyrie gunship’ in sixth edition.


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november , 8
via StrykerSniper on Warseer :

I'm praying for stormtroopers, real ones, as a second troop choice. I did have a tiny look behind the iron curtain of GWs privacy policies, and I was able to see some mockups of the new veterans/stormtrooper boxed set, and it would be an amazing kit to build warbands or stormtrooper squads. Also I saw a model that appeared to be an Inquisitor, and was wearing a long cloak and armor.

I could see GW allowing stormtroopers as a troop choice to induce additional sales of the new kit, which, frankly, floored me. The details were great, with kasrkin style armor, and all sorts of weapons including hellguns, sniper rifles, special weapons, a cool missile launcher, a bunch of sergeant options, bolters, and lots of shotguns that managed to not look like scout shotguns. Also, the bolters did not look like marine shotuns, they were a little more human sized.

Some of the poses were also amazingly dynamic. Some were stoic standing poses, while a couple were very John Woo! There were also a lot of extra bits, poches, packs, grenades, knives, some scanner like equipment, and what appeared to be night vision goggles. If i were a puppy, I would've piddled on the rug, and it was a supreme act of will not to grab the models and run for the door. Apparently, they have also been ready for some time. Please dear God, let these see the light of my hobby store soon and I will have at least 5 boxes! This might even revitalize my Guard army.

Oh, and there were a bunch of heads! respirator heads, heads with berets, bald heads, heads with mohawks and crew cuts. Most were scarred, and one had an eyepatch, while another had a disfigured eye with what looked like claw marks, one head was smoking a stogie, and there were two heads with berets. There was even a knife that looked like a trench knife with raised knuckle dusters. There were scopes, a hand radio, and a bunch of bits for the bases including plants, a snake, and some ammo cans and satchel charges. There was even a hand holding an entrenching tool (shovel to you non-military types). There were a few holstered pistols, and as a delightful surprise, there were also autoguns in addition to lasguns, and there were bits for pistol and close combat weapon troops, although few were chainblades. There was a demo charge, melta bombs, and camo cloaks.

I was very, very impressed. The attention to detail was phenomenal. If you have any questions, ask them quick, before I am "sanctioned" by the inquisition. What is that sound outside the window.......?

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Much obliged.

Plastic ogryns at last eh ?

About time.

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Just as I've nearly finished painting my metal Ogryns. Damn. I'd have loved plastics.
   
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Herzlos wrote:
Just as I've nearly finished painting my metal Ogryns.



As is ever the way.

It's like a law of the cosmos or something, or perhaps a necessary ritualistic component to summon them.


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 Ravajaxe wrote:
* Special Weapon and Heavy Weapon Squads are now 10 men each.


I really do hope that this isn't true.

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Dumb name, if the name change is true. And not really any more copyright-able.

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 Ravajaxe wrote:


Update february 6th , from 40k Radio :

So some exciting news.
It was the plastic Ogryn kit. The rename is confirmed as they were called Militarum Auxillia.
Boom! Nailed it.
-Rik


Yeah, nailed it. Although, on the other hand, that "confirms" exactly nothing. Yeah, Ogryns might be Militarum Auxilia now. The rumour was that Imperial Guard become Astra Militarum. They're not off the hook until we see that verbatim.

I also find this story about a store getting their gak early highly unlikely, we'd be talking what, nearly a month early?

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 reds8n wrote:
Herzlos wrote:
Just as I've nearly finished painting my metal Ogryns.



As is ever the way.

It's like a law of the cosmos or something, or perhaps a necessary ritualistic component to summon them.



Even worse is that on re-reading the news, there's some new variant which will no doubt be the one I want and means I need to either buy/convert. At least if they are costed like Centurions I won't have any problem passing on them
   
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Ogryns with large riot style shields.
MUST HAVE.

I give precisely zero feths about any other potential awesome thing in the upcoming dex. I just want these.
Do no lie to me anonymous internet rumour source. Do not.


Also I'm not calling my guard "Astra Militarum". That's a dumb name. Mine will keep the glorious name of Imperial Guard!

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I think I'll pass on the Ogryn. I'm curious to see how the Bassie/Medusa rumoured kit turns out. Frankly, I'm curious if any of the vehicle rumours will turn out to be true.

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New Ogryn minis will be interesting, here's hoping they come with a good buff or the like to make them more attractive.

Also, if the rumour is true that veterans can assault out of vehicles, why? Everybody and their fething mum hits faster and harder than a veteran, so why allow them to do the one thing they're not supposed to do: Assaulting!



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I have absolutely no basis for this, but the ogryn/bullgryn kit seems a lot more plausible to me than any of the other rumoured plastics.

I like the concept, but I'm concerned about the price. Both 50mm base kits so far have been £42.50 for three models and individual ogryns are already £13.80, so I could well imagine that GW would keep them around that price point. Unless the models and/or the rules are a significant improvement from the current version, that's a bit steep for me.

   
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 BrookM wrote:
New Ogryn minis will be interesting, here's hoping they come with a good buff or the like to make them more attractive.

Also, if the rumour is true that veterans can assault out of vehicles, why? Everybody and their fething mum hits faster and harder than a veteran, so why allow them to do the one thing they're not supposed to do: Assaulting!

Maybe there's an Order that allows Lasguns/Hellguns to be used in Assault?
   
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 Bull0 wrote:
Yeah, nailed it. Although, on the other hand, that "confirms" exactly nothing. Yeah, Ogryns might be Militarum Auxilia now. The rumour was that Imperial Guard become Astra Militarum. They're not off the hook until we see that verbatim.


Again, as I said to Kan, not really. If that is the new name for the category Ogryn fall into, then the more reasonable explanation is that IG have got a name change. I'm not about to call it Occam's Razor yet, but it's close.



 Blacksails wrote:
I think I'll pass on the Ogryn. I'm curious to see how the Bassie/Medusa rumoured kit turns out. Frankly, I'm curious if any of the vehicle rumours will turn out to be true.


If we're lucky this time the Basilisk might actually be a complete kit!

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Aye, if Ogryns are at that price point I'll wince a little, but this will be the first release I buy everything from Dark Sphere anyway.

On a side note, two boxes on the Centurian sized bases, who else got put on them, Tyranid Warriors?

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Bull0 wrote:
Yeah, nailed it. Although, on the other hand, that "confirms" exactly nothing. Yeah, Ogryns might be Militarum Auxilia now. The rumour was that Imperial Guard become Astra Militarum. They're not off the hook until we see that verbatim.

Again, as I said to Kan, not really. If that is the new name for the category Ogryn fall into, then the more reasonable explanation is that IG have got a name change. I'm not about to call it Occam's Razor yet, but it's close.

And the most reasonable explanation of all is that I'm desperately clutching at straws, because the name change makes me do this D':

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
New Ogryn minis will be interesting, here's hoping they come with a good buff or the like to make them more attractive.

Also, if the rumour is true that veterans can assault out of vehicles, why? Everybody and their fething mum hits faster and harder than a veteran, so why allow them to do the one thing they're not supposed to do: Assaulting!

Maybe there's an Order that allows Lasguns/Hellguns to be used in Assault?
Or dare I say it, a buff to their stat-line?



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Or equipment.. Stun grenades that act like haywire for troops, 1-3 nothing, 4-5 unable to fight, 6 removed as a casualty.

Although thats me really clutching at straws. Tbh it probably exactly as they are and the kit will come with a pistol and CCweapon option and a unit of Guard with 2 attacks is seen as some kind of CC choice??

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Curious, very very curious. I dig the new Ogryn rumor.

My only 'complaint' if you could call it that, is that Ogryns don't fit in my particular regiment (Vostroyan Firstborn, for clarity's sake).

I've always loved the way Ogryns looked, and would love to have some in my force to be honest, but they just.. Don't fit.. At all. You've got a bunch of models, carrying beautifully ornate and intricate lasrifles, wearing long ornate greatcoats and cool full plate looking armor, plus awesome fur hats. Then you have Ogryns, big hulking abhumans with muscle shirts and BDU pants. I love their look, but it would gel better with a Catachan or Cadian force, not Vostroyans. :(

I hope these new riot shield models/ 'Bullgryns' are visually different enough to allow me to fit a small squad of them into my army and at least look consistent, as having a tough unit to act as a hand to hand deterrent would be absolutely wonderful.

As for the ability for veterans to assault out of a transport, that might be cool/interesting if there's an order that a Veteran squad sergeant can give such as 'Affix bayonets!' which would give them +1 initiative or +1 Strength (Or both, a-la old school furious charge?). Not trying to wishlist here, but one of the rumors was that sergeants would be able to issue an order to their own squad. Perhaps this pertains to Veteran sergeants. Who knows.

Also, I really hope they bring out a Griffon kit. I've got two of them, having a third would be fan-frikkin'-tastic. We'll see I suppose.

Looking forward to seeing/hearing more rumors. Thanks for restarting it, Ravajaxe.

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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Or equipment.. Stun grenades that act like haywire for troops, 1-3 nothing, 4-5 unable to fight, 6 removed as a casualty.

Although thats me really clutching at straws. Tbh it probably exactly as they are and the kit will come with a pistol and CCweapon option and a unit of Guard with 2 attacks is seen as some kind of CC choice??

Or shotguns that are "compact and quick-firing enough to be used in close quarters combat".

I would really be surprised to not see an Order allowing for a squad to use their Lasguns in close combat.
   
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As I said in the other thread, a source of mine confirms that the name change is real, due for April (codex).

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I"m cautiously excited about this. IG (or "Astra Militaria") are my first, largest, and now only 40k army.

I wil be buying to codex, and probably kits for new units. I already have 10 ogryn, so I'll probably pass on the new kit unless they do something amazing.

However, depending on how I like it, and if 40k rebounds locally, this might be the last thing I buy for 40k until 7th edition. I'm secretly hoping the book is cool, and I can find people to play fun/casual games with.

Barring that, I guess I'll just paint the new stuff, and put it in storage.
   
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Why can't they redo the Leman Russ model? It is the sole reason I don't have a Guard army.

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It has been redone some time ago, don't expect a new kit any time soon.



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 Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Or equipment.. Stun grenades that act like haywire for troops, 1-3 nothing, 4-5 unable to fight, 6 removed as a casualty.

Although thats me really clutching at straws. Tbh it probably exactly as they are and the kit will come with a pistol and CCweapon option and a unit of Guard with 2 attacks is seen as some kind of CC choice??


Oh, I bet they could actually kill some grots. Maybe even unmarked cultists due to the better armor...

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Barfolomew wrote:
Why can't they redo the Leman Russ model? It is the sole reason I don't have a Guard army.

Why? There's nothing wrong with the current one, which was updated pretty recently.

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The new Ogryns sound legit. Just like the thing GW would do. And it'll be hard to resist something like "plastic Ogryns with riot shields". I'm getting all giddy just thinking about it.

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Herzlos wrote:
Just as I've nearly finished painting my metal Ogryns.
As is ever the way.

It's like a law of the cosmos or something, or perhaps a necessary ritualistic component to summon them.
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 Anung Un Rama wrote:
The new Ogryns sound legit. Just like the thing GW would do. And it'll be hard to resist something like "plastic Ogryns with riot shields". I'm getting all giddy just thinking about it.

I just had an interesting thought...

What if the Ogryns with these slabs of tank armor plating for shields have a rule similar to the Deathwing Knights and their "Fortress of Shields"?
   
 
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