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This isn't really news, but seems to have grabbed people's attention in some other threads, so I figured I'd make a thread to stop others veering off topic.

Evidence is here..



Initial rumours are for a direct only release, with a price of US$470-490, which is somewhere around £300.

He better be huge!

First leak from BoW

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Official pricing here courtesy of LutherMax

Akragth wrote:
A couple more pics (didn't see them posted yet, apologies if they were)

I'm surprised the pictures haven't leaked if the cover has.

It would be surprising, if you didn't subscribe to the idea that GW are feeding the rumour blogs and sites with the images, then it all makes sense!

Little bit here.....

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2014/11/smaug-rules.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Faeit212+(Faeit+212)

Not much. Apparently rules in next weeks WD, and $490 online only release.

Of course, we're assuming it's Smaug, it isn't entirely impossible, given the recent End Times release, that it's a new Eleven Dragonrider.


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Updated OP with price speculation.

I'm excited to see it, I mean it must be something if it costs 300 quid!

What!!! Smaug gets a model. Can't wait.

When they say biggest dragon they've made, dyou reckon they're including the Citadel Imperial Dragon from the 80's? That thing was like over 2' long and wide.

When they say ever, I expect them to mean ever. And for that price it should be bigger than that. Got any pictures of that one?

Just got these off images but yeah; THIS IS NOT SMAUG, this is an old Citadel dragon. And yeah as Platuan4th says below, you needed to build the wing membranes yourself from foil.

And the parts

What ImAGeek is leaving out is that you had to use foil(or other suitable material) to make the wing membranes yourself.

I'd suggest clearly labelling those or we'll get people thinking that's Smaug (and saying it's wrong)

This is the largest dragon made under the GW umbrella currently I believe?

Smaug is going to need to be what, 2 1/2-3x the size?

Have FW stopped making that other big dragon they used to make? The one that was on like a wooden plinth base thing on the website

Yeah, FW stopped producing the Chaos Dragon and the Fire Dragon.

I suppose the Carmine Dragon is currently the largest one they make, as the Magma Dragon and Warpfire Dragon are both somewhat small.

I just searched the FW site for 'dragon' and this looks to be the biggest. I don't think it's significantly larger than the GW High Elf dragon or the Terrorghiest, but I think it is slightly bigger.

Yeah I think so too. The Magma dragon also looks quite big. They used to have a Fire Dragon or something which was pretty big, bigger than either of those I think (and was somewhere between £100-200 iirc). They also had a big two headed Chaos dragon as well. But it doesn't look like they make them anymore.

Definitely bigger, but I still think falls far short of Smaug-Ian dimensions, if they're even half serious about honouring appropriate scale.


I'm assuming Smaug will be plastic, but if he's direct only then it could be a FW produced resin item, perhaps even that stuff that the Void Shield Generator was made of?

Unfortunately FW stopped making that fantastic Dragon, Azrael13.

I think I've got a reference for size, this is Cang the Implacable (made by CMON) for anyone unfamiliar with the model..



Even then, I think he's on the small side for Smaug.


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 -Loki- wrote:
Unfortunately FW stopped making that fantastic Dragon, Azrael13.

Yeah, I'm just trying to throw up some references to how big Smaug (as the biggest dragon GW have ever made) might be.

This is the fire dragon, smaller than the FW chaos dragon?



TBH i'm going to be really surprised if it is as big as either. It should be but I guess I have doubts.

I think slightly smaller, but close enough to make no odds, the pose differences make it hard to say for sure. Either way, not big enough for Smaug!

I think the fire dragon is longer and wider and the chaos one is taller. Smaug is gonna need to be huge if anyone is going to spend £300 on it!

There's always someone crazy enough to buy a model expensive as that lol.

If it was impressive enough and it wasn't nearly Christmas then maybe... Haha. More money than sense me, and I don't even have much money!

I'm a sucker for a nice dragon.

As a big Dragon fan (I think you can tell from the user name ), I'm excited for this model. I'll probably never buy it since I have no interest in playing Hobbit, but I really want to see that bad boy

Well, as context, that Cang model is offered (but out of stock) in the CMON for $250, and this is a small volume, resin model, so won't be cheap to manufacture and stands 24" tall to the wing tip.

The rumoured price of Smaug is double that.

It is impossible for a Smaug model to be even remotely to scale with the rest of the Hobbit figures.

Based on the model height of Bilbo in the 'Riddles in the Dark' set (22mm), in which Bilbo is upright, and Bilbo's height in the movie (4'2") we have a scale of roughly 1mm of model height for every 57.7mm of film height.

The very smallest estimation of Smaug's film length is 60m, and the largest 141m. This puts a to scale model of Smaug as being between 1.04m and up to 2.44m long. That's between 3'5" to 8' long for a to scale Smaug!

GW are not producing a to scale Smaug, that is at minimum 3 feet long.

Either, Smaug is not sized according to the film, or this dragon is not Smaug.


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It could be a display model. Perhaps of the scene in which Smaug's head is buried beneath treasure whilst Bilbo leans on the pile, cut off at some point in the neck.

Is this a limited release or while quantities last? Going to take a long while to save up for this. Especially with Canadian prices.