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Are the other Hell boards going to get a bit of a facelift to match the 2 improved ones? Mostly just detail going to the edge I think...

OK, everyone buy more stuff... I really want that city square for the Anima board

I'm wondering on the likelihood of getting the 6th board for the 28mm cityscape. Looks the most versatile board for the games I play - infinity, 40k, dust etc.

Buy more stuff!

I've heard it said (no clue if its true) that KS often make a significant amount of $$ on the final three days

 Lobukia wrote:
I've heard it said (no clue if its true) that KS often make a significant amount of $$ on the final three days

That is usually the case, but many campaigns have not been showing this 'explosion' at the end either.

The ones that really show an end of campaign spike are the ones that offer deals that are 'too good to pass up' - usually via freebies, add-ons and whatnots.

That doesn't seem to be the case here though, so I'd not look for too much in that vein here.

Even if this has almost no uptick at the end, the next stretch goal (the 6th Anime Wars board) will unlock and that's what I'm here for!

I'm just hoping that the daily increase is enough to unlock the last boards for the fantasy streets and spaceship...

We are set it seems to unlock all, if we all can spread the word they will come. We are excited. Hopefully it will be good

The other designs need to be unlocked!

Buy more stuff!

Just had a thought - looking ahead to post kick starter product, do you think you'll ever do a 'blank' tile? That way, I could make my own layouts and stuff, yet still have the modularity to switch in tiles to change things up.

I'd probably buy a few blanks - having the ability to add in parks, harbours, industrial areas, wasteland etc would be fantastic for the 28mm urban board, and having it work with your clip system, dice trays etc would be the icing on the cake.

That's the slightly odd thing about this campaign - the preview images were of essentially "textured/patterned blanks" but they haven't been included in this one...

Wait for this update!


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blank tiles in the next update as an add-on

GamesNGears wrote:
blank tiles in the next update as an add-on

Sweet! Not something I'm after, but it's great to have the option. What are folks thinking of doing with blank tiles, out of curiosity?

That makes me happy! I can only speak for myself, but my plan would be to have a few blank tiles made up as specific 'feature terrain' that I can add in from time to time to change things up. Not necessarily one you'd want in every game. Stuff like an industrial dockside area, or church and graveyard, stuff like that. Its just nice to have options beyond the existing ones, where you can let your imagination go nuts.

Yeah,
I agree.
It's the fact that the blanks are the perfect size and can clip onto the existing sets that makes them useful.

Set terrain like aircraft crash sites, fortifications and installations.unique terrain sets.
Chopping up two or three blanks to create trenches or a drop pod massacre.

Panic...

Here is the update

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/554355176/games-and-gears-battle-boards

I'm happy that they are available, but sad they are tile for tile more expensive than a whole early bird board. I appreciate that the early bird boards are pretty damned cheap, but still, instead of adding a couple as an extra spend, I'll be sacrificing the pimped out dice trays etc, and keeping the pledge the same. :/

Only so much money at this time of year, and hard to justify 80 quid for 2 plastic tiles and a few plastic trays. Hope it gives the project the boost it needs to unlock the rest of the boards though.

@Eggs fair comment. You can Upgrade in January via the backer kit . Hope that helps

Sweet upgraded for the 4 by 4 blanks. Thanks another amazing deal

It's going to be a real struggle to get the 6th tiles of the existing designs done at this rate. Anime (sci-fi) looks likely, but Anima will be a bit of a stretch, and the 28mm Urban will be a hard sell. The blanks aren't really priced appropriately to make a difference in this campaign, excepting from the diehard fans like the guy above - especially with 10% of "Early Birds" still being open almost 6 weeks after the campaign started...

Not sure how many people will be piling on the cash for Kickstarter on Christmas Eve...

Hopefully some of the remaining 10% of "Early Birds" will get the final designs unlocked.

I think the lack of 'freebie' rewards might cause this one to limp across the finish line instead of having a big uptake at the end. Not that I'm criticising - 62 quid for a 6x4 board is a great deal no matter how you skin it. I just think there's too much of a gap between early bird prices, and prices for some of the addons. Maybe if the early birds had been 75 quid or something, there'd have been room for a 'freebie' or two. Still, not downing the project. Looking forward to getting my board.

Just reflecting some more - it seems that this campaign was very much geared around "the upsell" - all that stuff before about wanting to increase the "average pledge per backer" makes it pretty clear.

What's also quite interesting is G&G's attitude towards adding additional boards to an EB pledge at the EB price - simply saying "no" and expecting people to add them on for the full price - while even now there's almost 100 EBs sitting there vacant. At a guess, I'd think this was an attempt to keep the "buy-in" level enticing, with an expectation that the loss from not allowing existing backers to buy more boards at the limited price would be less than keeping those additional boards open with the hope of getting new backers in to buy a board, then a bunch of additional stuff like Dice Trays, Resin scenery, overlays, etc - and this "add-on" mentality continues even now with the "blank" textured boards costing more than pledging for another board using another KS account and (as noted in the KS comments) "wallpapering over it".

Looks like unless there's a huge surge when the 48-hour warning goes out, G&G are going to be leaving money on the table from EBs who might have added a second or third board to their pledges at the EB price - but can't (without using extra KS accounts - which will cost G&G more in shipping).

None of this would be nearly as much of a worry if it didn't look like it may not even end up having all of the initial designs unlocked...

Good point, I think like all Kickstarters there will be a massive rush in the end. I guess we will find out on the last 2 days. I know a whole load of people in my neck of the woods are holding out till the last minute. I backed AVP and battle systems, thought the same because of the console releases but last two days were big jumps. Maybe not as big on Xmas eve, but it does look like all will be unlocked. IMHO

I toyed with the idea of opening a second kick starter account to just get a second board to use as 'blanks'. Still haven't ruled it out, but I'm lazy...


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Out of curiosity, if the 6th design doesn't get unlocked, do we just get a random duplicate, or do we get to choose? 2 sets of crossroads would be a bit much.

 Eggs wrote:
I think the lack of 'freebie' rewards might cause this one to limp across the finish line instead of having a big uptake at the end. Not that I'm criticising - 62 quid for a 6x4 board is a great deal no matter how you skin it. I just think there's too much of a gap between early bird prices, and prices for some of the addons. Maybe if the early birds had been 75 quid or something, there'd have been room for a 'freebie' or two. Still, not downing the project. Looking forward to getting my board.

I don't think the lack of "freebies" hurt it (though obviously, it's a factor) so much as not allowing people to add on additional boards at the EB price. Note how the 2x EB and 3x EB have long since sold out, and they even sold a few (22/100) Black Friday sets at 20 quid more. I think the price difference between getting an EB and getting an additional board has simply been too much for most people to swallow. from £65 to £95 is a pretty steep climb - especially when there's 89 more sitting there at £65.

*Note - I'm not personally butthurt about this, as I have 2 pledges across 2 accounts for 3 boards. I just think forcing people to "game" the system when leaving 89 boards (at present) on the table is a bit silly.

I agree to an extent. I think where the freebies might hurt it a little is in the final couple of days - the freebie bonanza that many wargaming projects experience as the funding rockets in the final few days I think in part self perpetuates. The more funding, the higher the perceived value of the deal, the more people take the plunge, rinse, repeat.

I'm not personally butt hurt either. As you say, I can quite easily create another account, and get 12 tiles instead of eight, for an extra 22 quid.

Looks like we are on track. As it is we will be able to deliver on time.

Usually I back Kickstarters last minute myself. Maybe a bad habit. Although I work for G&G this is the first KS I backed early. I want a board for myself. . I would say let's wait an see.

About how high the surge will be.... Honestly don't know. It could be, ok, good or crazy good. Most people should be off work soon. So wait and see. Excited. Fair comments above!

darkeldarcrone wrote:
Good point, I think like all Kickstarters there will be a massive rush in the end. I guess we will find out on the last 2 days. I know a whole load of people in my neck of the woods are holding out till the last minute. I backed AVP and battle systems, thought the same because of the console releases but last two days were big jumps. Maybe not as big on Xmas eve, but it does look like all will be unlocked. IMHO

There will be some degree of a spike, but I don't think it'll be a massive surge. The timing (Christmas) is quite bad for "surges" for those of us with families/etc. After Christmas would be a better time for that. I'm only able to stay in because I planned for it over a month ago. The last two days have also been lower than the preceding two days, but all four have been hovering around the £1-2k per day that the last week has had. Which would be about another £6k if it holds steady and doesn't have a jump at 48hrs... Which would mean Anime Wars but not Anima or 28mm Urban.


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GamesNGears wrote:
I might just do that myself Eggs!

From what I have on followed on the comments section, you get to choose it.

Although I am hoping for more things from G&G once they unlock the 10th one. To be fair, I f I wasn't so hyped about this months ago, I would have jumped in the last minute like I have with all the other Kickstarters I pledge. First time I broke that habit.

Accidental mispost from what was meant to be a Sock puppet?

Thought this was the cross forums there's a chap nickname eggs, I am a member there so can talk more on my own terms . Here I represent G&G and yes I am very hyped up about this KS and meant every word.

doh! It's all good. Need to keep track of how many forums I am responding too!

I backed avp and battle system last minute. It is just what happens. I also backed this one early to! So you don't get the boards free yourself??