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Belly wrote:
Anyone able to post the specific costs of Wraithlord equipment? Bright lances, Wraithsword/Ghostglaive stuff?

At 120 points base, if the weapons are consistently priced, this means I can get a Lord with 2 Bright lances and a wraithsword for ~135 points. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, any rules about vibrocannons, and if a unit of 3 hits at str 9 would be great

The leaker never released individual weapon costs.

(infrasoud is vibro german translation)

infrasound cannon : 48" s 7 ap 4 heavy 1 infrasound, pinning

infrasound: if a unit has been a target of one or more infrasound weapons. each following infrasound weapon increases its strength by 1 and as by -1 (so second hit s 8 ap 3 etc.)



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 Enigma wrote:
Is it confirmed that we can get two of the same weapon on the 'lords without them getting the twin-link treatment?

not confirmed or denied

Yeah...I've read all that. I was hoping someone might be able to bring some new information to the table.

I did read one source that mentioned the TL status of lord weapons was gone. Just after some confirmation.

Belly wrote:
Yeah...I've read all that. I was hoping someone might be able to bring some new information to the table.

I did read one source that mentioned the TL status of lord weapons was gone. Just after some confirmation.

such minute details I am sure we will clarify when we all get a codex.

Really? Ya think?

You're ever so insightful.

Belly wrote:
Really? Ya think?

You're ever so insightful.

I know! its my best and worst trait!!!

Theorius wrote:

Belly wrote:
Really? Ya think?

You're ever so insightful.

I know! its my best and worst trait!!!

you really need a hobby if that is the case.....>.>....<.<.....

Belly wrote:
Anyone able to post the specific costs of Wraithlord equipment? Bright lances, Wraithsword/Ghostglaive stuff?

At 120 points base, if the weapons are consistently priced, this means I can get a Lord with 2 Bright lances and a wraithsword for ~135 points. Can anyone confirm this?

Also, any rules about vibrocannons, and if a unit of 3 hits at str 9 would be great

May take any 2, choosing same one twice does not twin link
Shuricannon 15
Scatter Laser 20
Starcannon 20
Brightlance 20
Eml 30

Ghostglaive 5

So you could take a ghost glaive a scatter laser and a bright lance on a wraithlord for 165

Flamers are still a free swap from the shurcats

sucks the BL went down to 36" though....I had good things planned for that thing, but now...not so much...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Morachi wrote:
1. Vypers are called "Vyper Jetbikes"

That's cause Vypers are jetbikes? They've been called that for years, even before they had a 40k scale mini.

My point was more aimed at the fact they do not have the "Jetbike" rule for maneuvering, and last release (or the one before) there was a noted trend they dropped "Jetbike" from the name as to observe this. I'm well aware they were called Vyper Jetbikes back in the day (must dig up my old "Space Marine" box set somewhere).

GTKA666 wrote:
sucks the BL went down to 36" though....I had good things planned for that thing, but now...not so much...

Erm, it was already 36" in the old/current codex. Plus, if you're more than 36" away, you're doing it wrong. We're an up-close and shooty army.

Thanks to the person that posted weapon values.

Belly wrote:

GTKA666 wrote:
sucks the BL went down to 36" though....I had good things planned for that thing, but now...not so much...

Erm, it was already 36" in the old/current codex. Plus, if you're more than 36" away, you're doing it wrong. We're an up-close and shooty army.

Thanks to the person that posted weapon values.

 Morachi wrote:
I'm well aware they were called Vyper Jetbikes back in the day (must dig up my old "Space Marine" box set somewhere).

It's not just 'back in the day'. They've always been called Vyper Jetbikes. They're listed as such on the GW website.

Belly wrote:

The leaker never released individual weapon costs.

We've got a lot of them now, including the wraithlord. I hope I'm allowed to link to pastebin here...
http://pastebin.com/bgh8Mrs3
if not, /tg/ on 4chan should have an Eldar thread up with links to the relevant info. A small number of photos are around too which confirm that Raziel's leaks were 100% accurate.

Oh, and I should add that the costs (for wraith units, guardians, avengers, war walkers, vypers, maybe some other stuff too) are at the bottom. The document is... messy.

Hmm, so EJBs are only T3. Still a very nice troop unit tho. Too bad the models suck :(

Nah, jetbikes are T4 on the Profiles page. Don't all bikes give T+1 in 6th edition rules or something?

stuffah wrote:
Nah, jetbikes are T4 on the Profiles page. Don't all bikes give T+1 in 6th edition rules or something?

Ok, guess the compilation of leaks was wrong on 4chan then, Makes them even better, they are quite amazing and the Jetlock is cheaper then it were in the last codex even without any abilities. SO you basically get the Psyker lvl 1 for free this edition
Time to convert som more EJBs...

So any new word on the Iyanden book? Didn't see anything in the 4chan post. The fact that Yriel hasn't been mentioned does leave some curiosity in me that there may be some legitimate 40k rules in that book.

This book looks like it will be really solid, I am pretty mad at Phil Kelly considering how much better of a job he could have done on the CSM book. That'll especially be the case if it turns out Eldar get an extra book with flavor rules for a specific Craftworld while Legions got thrown to the curb.

 morgendonner wrote:
So any new word on the Iyanden book? Didn't see anything in the 4chan post. The fact that Yriel hasn't been mentioned does leave some curiosity in me that there may be some legitimate 40k rules in that book.

This book looks like it will be really solid, I am pretty mad at Phil Kelly considering how much better of a job he could have done on the CSM book. That'll especially be the case if it turns out Eldar get an extra book with flavor rules for a specific Craftworld while Legions got thrown to the curb.

Yriel is in the main codex. He has gained a wound.

He also gained a crappy rule which makes him reroll saves of 6 and his spear is AP3 now. Total waste.

That's weird...

I've seen two conflicting rumours on Reapers.

One saying that each Reaper can get Starstrike Missiles and the other saying only the Exarch can.

I hope it's the former.

Oryza Sativa wrote:

As a side note: I've seen some people here and other places lamenting the fact that Banshees have no grenades. Rest assured, if Banshees assault something, that unit will be swinging at Initiative 1 almost every time. So at least that evens things out a bit.

They're still worse than before. In 4th/5th edition they would hit at I10, which is technically better than assault grenades as there's a chance of wiping out the enemy unit before they strike back. Now they're hitting at I1 at the same time as most opponents, which for a T3 unit isn't exactly great...

I'm still hoping they have some kind of assault grenades rule hidden somewhere we haven't noticed yet, or they're going to be trash.

Edit: "Acrobatics from banshees grants +3" if the unit consists entirely of banshees"
Not sure if this will be on normal movement, running or charging. But it's still not looking great for Banshees.

Oryza Sativa wrote:


The Avatar is still monstrously powerful.

Why? It went up by 40pts for I10 and Fleet, but dropped the invuln to 5++ which effectively cancels out the extra wound. The Wailing Doom is also effectively twin-linked due to BS10, but with that range how often did anyone really fire it in a game anyway?

The Exarch powers might be useful if they don't cost any extra, but I'm not sure it has the survivability it needs.

Those rules on Yriel make me sad.

Puscifer wrote:
Those rules on Yriel make me sad.

Perhaps. But I am lovin' Asurmen.

Why oh why is there no new model

Anyone know anything about the storm guardian upgrade cost? Ie the cost to get flamers, fusion guns and meltas into the squad?

Puscifer wrote:
That's weird...

I've seen two conflicting rumours on Reapers.

One saying that each Reaper can get Starstrike Missiles and the other saying only the Exarch can.

I hope it's the former.

I think it's so that you can pay 8 points per model for Startstrike missiles.

Asurmen is a beast, I can agree there.

I was hoping to go all Iyanden with Yriel, but I may not now.

Wasn't Asurmen and more importantly Asuryan from Iyanden?


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 Gar'Ang wrote:

Puscifer wrote:
That's weird...

I've seen two conflicting rumours on Reapers.

One saying that each Reaper can get Starstrike Missiles and the other saying only the Exarch can.

I hope it's the former.

I think it's so that you can pay 8 points per model for Startstrike missiles.

YES!!!

Yriel is about the same points as before but his former rules where better. He ignored all saves and he was taking a wound on the end of the game. Now he is useless against termies or any other character with a +2 save and you might be constantly rerolling all those sixes :/. Waste of a totally good character.

Are Guardian Jetbikes troops? With the rending shuriken weapons and a shrouding Warlock they'd be great as the scoring units role. Jetbikes + vehicles/monstrous creatures + few transports with Wraithguard/Dragons.

Yes they are and at 17 points a piece they are gonna cause all kind of problems.. If only we had some new models.

I'm wondering if Warlocks will be useable by allies or are they only available if the primary detachment is eldar. I really want to bring a full 10 man jetbike squad with a warlock with shrouding. 250pts for 10 with 3x cannons and warlock. So much cheaper then before. Too bad the unit is LD 8.