BrookM wrote:


Also, it just occurred to me that we are beta-testing their future on-line store.

Creator Loud'n Raging 28 minutes ago

Re: "I would appreciate being able to see renders on all the models".
After much discussion, I'm happy to say that we think we’ll be able to do that by changing the date of the Pledge Manager close.
But, it's a trade-off for the backers:
We can push out the close of the Pledge Manager by 2-3 weeks and include the missing renders, but that will mean pushing out the date that we start shipping accordingly.
Does that work for you?

 Mr Morden wrote:
Pleased to have this but got to try and find my list of what I wanted - sooooo long ago

 BrookM wrote:
The KS comments section, much wow, such unified response for delivery. I don't want to say I "like" what I see, but finally, more people are getting fed up with the long wait and the bs.

Will you be seeing more renders?

I think the best way to answer that is to share a conversation we had on Facebook a couple of days ago:

Question: “Dunno if this has been answered - You say you will email people once the KS is over asking for what models they want to spend their pledge on - will we get to see all the models in 3d sculpt/3d print or even in resin/metal cast BEFORE choosing?
I ask because with several of the concepts its hard to visualize the end product.”

Asharah Raging: “Well, production will happen over several months, so it is unlikely that all the models will be available to be shown in 3D or cast before the survey is sent...”

Question: “So we will have to spend our pledge based on the concept sketches for some of the characters/troops/mechs etc? Just asking because I know I, personally, am on the fence about several heroines and the mecha until I see how they look in 3D. After the unveil of the Kurg heavy troops, too, there was a lot of mixed opinion on the transition from concept to sculpt. People will be pretty hacked off if they spend their pledge on a concept then the print is subtly different to the point they don't like it”

Asharah Raging: “I'm not sure what to tell you. Compared to most other companies, our sculpts are very very very close to the concepts. But there will always be subtle changes to make sure that the models are castable and not too fragile. And please remember that we showed the models of the Troops BEFORE THEY WERE FINISHED. We will make sure NEVER to do that again. We did that mainly because of scale issues on which we wanted people's feedback. This means that these renders were shown mostly to help us get a better feel for what the backers were looking for in terms of proportions and scale, and some details were clearly stated to be unfinished. We were VERY clear about that, but nevertheless, many people did not bother to read the comments, drew many mistaken conclusions about these images, and shared them with everyone.

To be able to produce such a large quantity of sculpt at the same time, we have a very specific workflow.
One of its particularities is that we do not develop each sculpt individually and one after the other.
Instead, we work on large sections of the product range all at once.
So, when we write that “80% of the sculpting process is done”, it means precisely that: 80% of the sculpting work that is required to send the minis to 3D printing is done.
It does not mean that 80% of the sculpts are done. One person put it this way: "100% of the minis are 80% ready”, and that's a good way to summarise it.

As we already explained in this update on 'One-Shot Blondie, from concept to 3D print', we revise a sculpt MANY times before we send it to print. This is what ENSURES the quality of the Raging Heroes sculpts.

In a project like the TGG Kickstarter, it is also crucial that we take the time to review and compare all the sculpts against each other before we finalize them to guarantee the overall integrity and continuity of the range.

"So yes, we could show you some sculpts that are 80% done. But our previous experience has confirmed to us that this is not the right thing to do. We've already shared the Heroine 3D renders that we feel are very representative of what the 3 armies will look like.

If you don't feel confident about the final product, then I can certainly understand that, and you should perhaps not take the chance to be unhappy down the road. I know that most people that have seen our work trust us to get it right, and most of the time, they actually often find the actual casts BETTER than what they had anticipated from the final 3D renders!

And also, sometimes, there may be a few concepts that we think we can actually improve upon when we sculpt them, for example, Yoko and Dr von X....

But again, that is entirely up to you and we certainly won't hold it against you if you don't want to pledge for certain things.

I hope that helps...”

Reply: “Yes and no. What I'd ask then is if people can change their pledge spending or only spend a little of it at a time. What I mean by that is could someone for example, when the first survey comes out asking what you spend your pledge on, only tell you which of the FIRST WAVE models they want, and assign the rest later?”

Asharah Raging: "Sure!" That's a very fair request and we will be working to implement a pledge management that will allow this.

If you are already familiar with Raging Heroes, you know that every time we have a new release, we put the 3D renders on our blog and ask people for feedback. Every time, this allows us to correct minor details so that everyone is happiest with the sculpt.

We will of course work in the same manner for the TGG minis. Our goal is not to trap you with minis you wouldn't like, but on the contrary, to bring you the best possible characters and troops. (And it's a lot saner, in our opinion, to do that outside of the Kickstarter madness.) So, please be assured that you'll be able to voice your comments and concerns at that stage, and that we will listen to them.

Loud'n Raging wrote:@R Naysmith: " ... we won't even get to see renders before they send out the surveys which will lock-in our choices..."
Just want you to know that your choices will NOT be locked-in. You will make your final choices once the sculpts are finalised. As mentioned earlier, we never want our pledgers and future customers unhappy with our minis.
@david brooks: no, that's unlikely.

When do you get to tell us what your choices are?

We are still considering several options here, so it means that you can take some time to refine your choices, talk it over with your friends and other fellow backers, in the Comments section or on our Facebook pages (on Asharah Raging's private page or on Raging Heroes' public Page).

There will definitely be a Pledge Manager, and you will be able to up their pledge amount if you so do wish, using Paypal/Credit Card. At that time, you will also be able to pay for the Shipping you may have forgotten to add, as we see that quite a few of you forgot that.

Also, we will be trying to find a way for you to be able to have flexibility in how you spend your pledge, as the several waves of releases are revealed. This means that we will probably need you to complete a first survey that will help us to assess what miniatures have the most success in order to plan our production accordingly, but while still leaving room for you to tweak your choices as the production advances. Again, please keep in mind that this is our wish: this is what we would LIKE to do, but we don't know if it will be possible to implement and manage it that way.

Survey and Pledge Manager

In the next coming days, we will send you the Kickstarter survey. It will be very simple to make sure that you don't have agonize over what minis you need to choose and be able to answer us quickly. It will simply ask you for your detailed contact information. It will also ask you if you have chosen the 3D sculpting and art direction webinar, which is included in the Connoisseur Pledge and Add-on.

Regarding the Pledge Manager, well, many backers told us they wanted to see the first wave of minis before making their formal selection. So we focused on getting that first wave ready before putting the Pledge Manager together, which should be soon now. As for us, the quantities needed for each mini will in the end have little impact on production, so there is no need for us to know in advance how many of each is required: what takes a lot of time is sculpting and mould-making, but after that, casting is fairly swift.

 Jimsolo wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
The KS comments section, much wow, such unified response for delivery. I don't want to say I "like" what I see, but finally, more people are getting fed up with the long wait and the bs.

Are we reading the same comments section? As of right now, I see 5 votes for 'wait' and 6 for 'don't.' I'm not sure how unified that is.