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Apes quite often walk tripedally, e.g. when carrying stuff with the other limb. I don't find the Trileks too jarring, particulary compared to Dreads (who I always imagine rolling around like R2D2 anyway).

 Azazelx wrote:
The Crab walkers look okay, but three of them is a pretty small number. As for the humans, I think they're better than the MEdge humans with square shoulderpads, but inferior to the other ME guys (with the masks and rounded armour).

Good thing you get three each of two variants for a total of six, then.

Gates of Antares models are also much, much taller than normal 28mm figures. I am pretty sure they are 1/48, much like Terminator.

Notice how large the GoA model is and I haven't even put him on a base yet.


left to right: $10 USD Battletech Hellhound, $10 USD Sigmarite, $6.50 USD Algoryn (Gates of Antares), $2 USD Easterling

I'm not so sure your argument holds up considering the Algoryn aren't human. If that was a Concord trooper, I might agree with you. However, I've never seen anyone compare a Concord against anything else. It's always Algoryn. And they really aren't that tall. I've got an Algoryn trooper too, and he's only barely taller than my old sculpts Infinity Morats that I have him hanging out with.

 Barzam wrote:
I'm not so sure your argument holds up considering the Algoryn aren't human. If that was a Concord trooper, I might agree with you. However, I've never seen anyone compare a Concord against anything else. It's always Algoryn. And they really aren't that tall. I've got an Algoryn trooper too, and he's only barely taller than my old sculpts Infinity Morats that I have him hanging out with.

I only have Algoryn and Boromite figures, but the available pics of Concord on standard 25mm round Renedra style bases do show that they are equally as tall as Algoryn.

Plastic Algoryn are apparently slated for after Christmas according to one of the comments on the GoA facebook page

 judgedoug wrote:
Gates of Antares models are also much, much taller than normal 28mm figures. I am pretty sure they are 1/48, much like Terminator.
Notice how large the GoA model is and I haven't even put him on a base yet.
left to right: $10 USD Battletech Hellhound, $10 USD Sigmarite, $6.50 USD Algoryn (Gates of Antares), $2 USD Easterling

SO oversized and not easily cross-compatible, like Dystopian Legions guys? That's a bit unfortunate.

Aliens don't have to be the same height as everybody else

(though I agree humans that tall are more of an issue)

 Azazelx wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Gates of Antares models are also much, much taller than normal 28mm figures. I am pretty sure they are 1/48, much like Terminator.
Notice how large the GoA model is and I haven't even put him on a base yet.
left to right: $10 USD Battletech Hellhound, $10 USD Sigmarite, $6.50 USD Algoryn (Gates of Antares), $2 USD Easterling

SO oversized and not easily cross-compatible, like Dystopian Legions guys? That's a bit unfortunate.

Same scale as Infinity, Terminator, and Warpath (Enforcers are tall as gak) and newer Warzone And the new Icarus Project. I'm pretty sure everyone is moving towards 1/48 at this point.
IE: Not big heads, not big hands, and a waist.
The only thing it's not really compatible with is 40k and Maelstrom's Edge. And old, dead games like Void and Vor and Warzone 1. Anything sculpted with melon head, ham fist, and missing a waist.


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It looks like the Retailer edition of Gates of Antares will have a limited edition Ghar miniature (whereas the Warlord direct has the limited edition Concord miniature)

Also a FLGS with a Warlord retail account that orders the Gates of Antares store bundle also receives a giant poster of the cover art signed by Rick Priestley to display.

Wayland just sent out their preorder email for GoA. They seem to have the Concord miniature and will be selling the box for £56, which seems a bargain. The release date is the 7th of November.

Wayland are also having a launch day on the 7th, with lots of demo games. The event is free, but there are vip tickets for a fiver that get you a free model (no idea which one), plus some seminars with Rick and the development team

I asked for a scale comparison shot, Warlord sent me this

Well, the Ghar is certainly going to be a chunk. I looked over my figures last night and the Algoryn is pretty much the same height as a Morat. So, judging from that pic, the Concord should be just about right in line with the current Infinity figures.

Think £56 for this set seems very reasonable, just got a mail from Wayland with that price.

The Ghar design makes me think a bit of how the Idirans are described in the Iain M Banks book Consider Phlebas (three legs, bulky armoured suits). In fact, a number of things about GoA remind me of Banks' Culture novels!

Some of the other Ghar units from the Warlord site:


Above: Ghar Heavy Walker with D-Bomber and Scourer Cannons


Above: Ghar Outcast Disruptor Cannon walker


Above: Ghar Battle Armour concept

I think the Concept armour above has been replaced with the boxset design

And a close up of the Ltd Edition Concord Captain


Fromhttp://wargameterrain.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/warlord-games-loads-of-new-beyond-gates.html are the below

The plastic Ghar look great as robots or Dalek-style cyborgs, or even as Vorlon-style encounter suits. The other designs, with the Ghar pilot sitting in the unarmored section, as well as the sculpts with visible Ghar faces, are just uncomfortably bad. The scorpion could probably be salvaged by removing the pilot, although then it would just be another sci fi scorpion robot, but the aliens(abhumans?) themselves look awful, like unreleased-Roger Corman-movie awful.

hah, I think they're cute.

I still like the 5th Element style armour concept. It would be a shame if that isn't made

I really like them small vicious and very angry, ott small man syndrome

It's worth noting that the outcasts are Ghar that have failed in battle and are thrown into battle as cannon fodder, without their usual battle gear, kind of like 40k grots (if grots usually had mega armour)

 judgedoug wrote:
hah, I think they're cute.

So is the rabbit from Nu Pogodi, but I wouldn't want it anywhere near my techno-scorpions.




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 endtransmission wrote:
I still like the 5th Element style armour concept. It would be a shame if that isn't made

Yeah, I like those concepts so much I might even buy one of those in metal.


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 edlowe wrote:
I really like them small vicious and very angry, ott small man syndrome

It's worth noting that the outcasts are Ghar that have failed in battle and are thrown into battle as cannon fodder, without their usual battle gear, kind of like 40k grots (if grots usually had mega armour)

...

I think I'm just going to forge my own narrative on this one.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
The plastic Ghar look great as robots or Dalek-style cyborgs, or even as Vorlon-style encounter suits. The other designs, with the Ghar pilot sitting in the unarmored section, as well as the sculpts with visible Ghar faces, are just uncomfortably bad. The scorpion could probably be salvaged by removing the pilot, although then it would just be another sci fi scorpion robot, but the aliens(abhumans?) themselves look awful, like unreleased-Roger Corman-movie awful.

Yeah... wow. There's bad, laughably bad, and then this. Cartoony high-tech robots, with orks inside that are somehow even uglier than GW's? Are they trying to fail? I keep trying to find reasons to like this game, I really do, but then these sort of things happen.

I think it's funny that the Ghar are these big bad, psychotic killing machines that are pretty much rampaging across human space, and they actually look like that.

 Barzam wrote:
I think it's funny that the Ghar are these big bad, psychotic killing machines that are pretty much rampaging across human space, and they actually look like that.

Reminds me of BBC sci-fi.
from an American perspective, mind you.

 judgedoug wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
I think it's funny that the Ghar are these big bad, psychotic killing machines that are pretty much rampaging across human space, and they actually look like that.

Reminds me of BBC sci-fi.
from an American perspective, mind you.

Well, it is a British game.

I find the Ghar adorable and I want many of them.

Adorable, enraged little buggers with guns.

I really want some of the tripod / crab Ghar in plastic, sold independently of the box set, as I don't need any more standard sci-fi trooper humans. Love the design, and love the Dalek-esque take. Not into the outcast Ghar at all, though. I think the heads are ruining them for me. I'd like something more, well, disgusting to be concealed inside those battle suits.

The new models are looking very promising. The ghar outcasts strike the right balance between believable sci-fi and fun space opera for me – I like the fact the gameworld is less po-faced than the competition. I think a bit of humour adds a lot to a game – not least defusing tension and reminding us it's a game.

Just to be completely sure, this is a regular retail release and not a kickstarter, right?

 warboss wrote:
Just to be completely sure, this is a regular retail release and not a kickstarter, right?

yep £56 starter set preorder October released movember.

I LOVE THEM EVEN MORE NOW
i cannot believe how much these little lumpy monkey space men are stroking my visual pleasure centers


Ghar military formations are built around units of battle-armoured infantry armed with multi-functional scourer cannons. These troops make up the overwhelming proportion of Ghar forces together with other battle-suited troopers carrying specialised arms of one kind or other. Ghar battle armour is in many ways more like a small vehicle than conventional armour, a self-contained fighting machine whose pilot occupies a tiny cell within it and interfaces with the machine by means of neural implants.

The Ghar themselves would not choose to fight without the protection of their machines. Without access to mechanical sensors their native senses are poor and their bodies weak and vulnerable. Only creatures that have failed their masters and been reduced to the status of outcasts fight in this way. Their most useful role is to absorb enemy fire and expose enemy positions – a kind of reconnaissance by self-sacrifice that is judged a fitting end for Ghar who disappoint their overlords.

PREORDER UPDATE: FIRST EXCLUSIVE ITEM

All preorders placed with Warlord Games for the Launch Edition box set of Beyond the Gates of Antares will receive a print of the Xilos Horizon cover art individually signed by Rick Priestley, the games author.

And I'm out. The paint scheme just somehow made the ugly sculpts even worse. Warlord should be ashamed.