Latest Forge World news and rumour thread : P99 Bulletin #50

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**Lone Cat**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
It's an update of this:

... the old Chaos Dread from Space Crusade.

And this design has been recycled. Is this how the T'au antigrav vehicles got its design?? meow~

**timd**

Theophony wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Kosake wrote:

1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.
Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

What book does this info show up in?

Thanks!

**e.earnshaw**

The made up new characters that aren't in the hh bl series will models ever come out for them because they made bundles for the dreads characters, so is that a hint ?

**Vermis**

Quite like those robos. Particularly the Daft Punk heads.

And... the price doesn't seem that outrageous. But then I've had a head cold and lots of painkillers for a week.

**finnan**

seeing conversion possibilities with the heads of those 'bots. Warlock Wraithguard anyone?

**Veteran Sergeant**

Kosake wrote:13. Ultras - ultrasmuuuurf, ultrasmuuuurf, does whatever the codex tells him

I think you're confused.

Ultramarines wrote the Codex. Nothing is better than making your own rules.

Everyone else gets told what to do by the Codex. The Ultramarines are just doing what they always did because they're better at it than everyone else.

It's very magnanimous of them; helping out the lesser Legions like that.

**BrookM**

Also, at that stage the Codex Astartes is still a work in progress.

**SickSix**

The Iron Warrior doors are amazing! If I could somehow re purpose for my Silver Skulls that would be awesome!

Just a little modding and they would be perfect.

**BrookM**

I wonder when we'll be seeing themed doors for the Deimos pattern Rhino.

**Theophony**

timd wrote:
Theophony wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Kosake wrote:

1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.
Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

What book does this info show up in?

Thanks!

I read it in the black library books mostly and from the old rule books. I sold all my old Horus Hersey books when I got tired of the series, so I can't give you specific on it but when they talk about the legion first arriving to Caliban they have black armor and they hint at the newer recruits (the ones from Caliban) getting green armor and some of the older guys are a little mystified as to why the change, but it's put off as a reminder of how beautiful and green Caliban was before the mechanicus started to raze the forests and bring technology to the planet. I think it will be part of the reason half the legion goes darkside and keeps the black armor, and the loyalists are green (except the 1st company as a reminder of their roots, then as a remembrance of their sacrifice for the bone colored armor, and the ravenwing....cause black helps them sneak up during their scouting missions).

**Ouze**

SickSix wrote:
The Iron Warrior doors are amazing! If I could somehow re purpose for my Silver Skulls that would be awesome!

Just a little modding and they would be perfect.

I'm surprised someone liked them. I thought they were objectively awful, and poorly done - something you'd see out of a second-tier garage caster. I know a lot of people don't like when there is excess bling on their models, but I feel like when you're getting FW Rhino doors, you sort of expect a little more in terms of detail.

The old ones look dated, but they also have so much more detail and work into them:

Spoiler:

This - especially the rhino front plate - just feels like someone spent 20 minutes with some plasticard and some rivets:

Spoiler:

**Desubot**

The Alpha legion one seems kinda boring.

**Alpharius**

Yeah, it does.

I still am not a fan at all of the Omega "hiding" behind the Alpha either.

Super-Dumb.

**Theophony**

Ouze wrote:
SickSix wrote:
The Iron Warrior doors are amazing! If I could somehow re purpose for my Silver Skulls that would be awesome!

Just a little modding and they would be perfect.

I'm surprised someone liked them. I thought they were objectively awful, and poorly done - something you'd see out of a second-tier garage caster. I know a lot of people don't like when there is excess bling on their models, but I feel like when you're getting FW Rhino doors, you sort of expect a little more in terms of detail.

The old ones look dated, but they also have so much more detail and work into them:

Spoiler:

This - especially the rhino front plate - just feels like someone spent 20 minutes with some plasticard and some rivets:

Spoiler:

I look at it as being very minimalistic, just like the iron warriors themselves. It's crisp detail and I'm glad they didn't toss on hazard stripes or anything like that. I like the power hatchets too, not something I would have thought of myself.

To each their own.

**sonofruss**

Theophony wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Kosake wrote:

1. DA - Green ultramarines. boring.
Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

They don't all die 5 lived at the end and reformed their tribes the captain held on to the Terminator armor till the Dark Angels returned to find out what happened to them.

**Snrub**

Theophony wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

Now having only read the 1st two books, I'm far from up to date with the retconning shitstorm of gak stories that is Black Libraries Horus Heresy series. But I thought the green armour thing came about from the the Cyper dataslate. During the schism, with the Dark Angels stationed back on Caliban who were still loyal to the Lion painting it green to differentiate themselves from Luthers fallen. Then after the Heresy the Legion got split and the whole Chapter went green. This was shoehorned in to explain the Cypher model having green amour since 3rd edition.

**ImAGeek**

The A's on the AL side doors for the LR aren't symmetrical. I dunno if that'll annoy me now. And I really like the Iron Warriors ones.

**Formosa**

Snrub wrote:
Theophony wrote:
BrookM wrote:
Unless I'm missing a massive retcon here, they're supposed to be black.

The ones from earth (pre primarch reunion) were black, then once the lion starts recruiting and dividing the legion green becomes a thing. Post hersey it's all green except the ravenwing and the first company are black. The first company switches to bone later when they die to a man after clearing a genestealer infected world. Then the party starts and they hook up the sound system to the landspeeders

Now having only read the 1st two books, I'm far from up to date with the retconning shitstorm of gak stories that is Black Libraries Horus Heresy series. But I thought the green armour thing came about from the the Cyper dataslate. During the schism, with the Dark Angels stationed back on Caliban who were still loyal to the Lion painting it green to differentiate themselves from Luthers fallen. Then after the Heresy the Legion got split and the whole Chapter went green. This was shoehorned in to explain the Cypher model having green amour since 3rd edition.

It's consistent if cypher considers himself loyal to caliban and the dark angels legion, not the chapter.

I don't consider filling in gaps as retconning, we didn't have all the information and now we are getting it, that's not a retconned, that's better information

**Alpharius**

Please take the always interesting Dark Angels armor color discussion/debate down to the 40K Background forum - thanks!

**Theophony**

Alpharius wrote:
Please take the always interesting Dark Angels armor color discussion/debate down to the 40K Background forum - thanks!

No! No! It's an Alpha Legion trap, he's trying to separate us from the others so they can pick us off and replace us. Fight the system my broth..........

**BrookM**

In other news, got my squad of Auxilia Flamers yesterday and they were not the assembly horror show I feared them to be. Someone actually put some proper thought into making them easy to assemble without requiring to bend your own hoses and whatnot.

**Medium of Death**

I'm getting less and less impressed with the quality of add on parts that are being churned out.

The Power Axes on those Iron Warrior doors are stupid and the cracking and chipping on the doors just look like an excuse for bad casting.

It's not a crap cast! It's battle damaged!

They're turning out Chapter House quality marine stuff.

It's not all bad, but there's at least one sculptor in there that needs to go...

**ImAGeek**

A sculptor has to go because you don't like some rhino doors?

I happen to like the IW ones. More so than the AL one's and I'm an AL fanboy.

**warboss**

Are we voting off someone from Forgeworld Island (aka Great Britain)? Can I nominate the guy who sculpted Vulcan in an awkward judo chop pose?

**Fireball**

warboss wrote:
Are we voting off someone from Forgeworld Island (aka Great Britain)? Can I nominate the guy who sculpted Vulcan in an awkward judo chop pose?

Objection! Simon Eagan is the best sculptor from FW ...

**Darth Bob**

warboss wrote:
Are we voting off someone from Forgeworld Island (aka Great Britain)? Can I nominate the guy who sculpted Vulcan in an awkward judo chop pose?

Simon Egan? How about no.

Fairly disappointed with the Alpha Legion doors. I think the simplicity works for the Iron Warriors, but the AL stuff just looks unfinished. It's sad, because the details on the Contemptor were so great.

**Formosa**

Simons a Damn good scuptor and an old friend so no from me too

**zedmeister**

Stormhammer!

Forge World Bulletin #44
Forge World has produced a huge number of tanks and armoured vehicles over the years, from the small, but perfectly formed, Cyclops Demolition Vehicle and Grot Tanks to the Super-heavy Shadowsword, Malcador and Praetor Armoured Assault Launcher. I got a glimpse of a new behemoth last week and it looks earth-shatteringly powerful! I’m reliably informed that we’ll be seeing it in all its glory at the Horus Heresy Weekender.

Something heavily armed and armoured will soon be rolling out of the Forge World Studio.

Speaking of armoured vehicles, Mark Bedford has started work on a new force that already contains a few. Mark is working on a joint Solar Auxilia and Questoris Knight army hailing from the Five Hundred Worlds of Ultramar. So far he’s completed a Solar Auxilia Dracosan Armoured Transport and a Questoris Knight Errant, and he’ll be adding more soon.

The beginning of Mark’s allied force.

That’s all from me for now. Make sure you check back soon for more from the Forge World Studio.

Chris.

**BrookM**

"Something heavily armed and armoured will soon be rolling out of the Forge World Studio."

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/FORGE_WORLD_BULLETIN_44.html

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NINJAAAAAAAAAA'D!

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Comparing it to what's been previewed in Conquest, it certainly looks different.

**H.B.M.C.**

That's not a Stormhammer...