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 Breotan wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Ernster wrote:
If anybody wants alternate Ratmen teams Willy is having a KS.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/willy-miniatures/fantasy-football-ratmen-team-by-willy-miniatures?ref=profile_created

Not bad, though I bought the GW version which I quite like. GW just need to get off their arses and make a couple more Gutter Runners and a Rat Ogre.

Use the Rat Ogre from the IoB box. You don't even need to do any conversion work.

Spoiler:

I figured that guy looked too bulky for BB. Like you put him in a line of scrimmage and you won't fit any models in the surrounding squares. Maybe not, hard to tell from pictures.

I use him. He looks perfect

Yeah,
He looks great I also ordered silver tower death runner.
Will report back with size/suitability comparison with the gutter runner.

Panic...

The size for the gutter runners is fine - it's what I'm using until whatever other solution is released by forgeworld

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AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I figured that guy looked too bulky for BB. Like you put him in a line of scrimmage and you won't fit any models in the surrounding squares. Maybe not, hard to tell from pictures.

Judge for yourself.

Looks like he'd fit on a 32mm base.

Always best to avoid bases overlapping the squares. It's ok in the picture but if more than one big-guy starts to tangle, things can get a bit crowded if they all have overlapping bases.
Especially considering you might want to play on a older pitch with 30mm squares.

 Breotan wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I figured that guy looked too bulky for BB. Like you put him in a line of scrimmage and you won't fit any models in the surrounding squares. Maybe not, hard to tell from pictures.

Judge for yourself.

Thanks for taking a pic! It does help.

It looks ok from that pic, I *really* dislike my models banging in to each other and I think it'll be a bit squishy when you line him up against something like a Kroxigor flanked by Saurus.

If a cheap one pops up I might grab it anyway to see.

Was the twitch thing an hour ago? Did anyone catch it?

 Zywus wrote:
Looks like he'd fit on a 32mm base.

He'll fit but I didn't really like it as well as the 40mm. Besides, overlap is miniscule with the new boards so I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it looks like teams currently only have one "big" guy available to them (other than star players) so it's not like the board will be crowded with them.

I actually tracked down the twitch show, the only real thing of note was that the big guys will be on the same size of base as everyone else.

That's good to know.

Do we have any 'confirmed' list of plastic releases? I'm assuming the dwarves are for sure based on the leaked pics.
The only other teams mentioned so far are Nurgle and 'Elves' (Union?) correct?

 Breotan wrote:

 Zywus wrote:
Looks like he'd fit on a 32mm base.

He'll fit but I didn't really like it as well as the 40mm. Besides, overlap is miniscule with the new boards so I wouldn't worry about it. Also, it looks like teams currently only have one "big" guy available to them (other than star players) so it's not like the board will be crowded with them.

Ogres have four or more Big Guys. A Chaos Pact team will likely have two Big Guys, as will a Goblin or a Halfling team.

All the more reason to make your own 40mm pitch. 40mm is best mm

plastictrees wrote:That's good to know.

Do we have any 'confirmed' list of plastic releases? I'm assuming the dwarves are for sure based on the leaked pics.
The only other teams mentioned so far are Nurgle and 'Elves' (Union?) correct?

Not too sure about confirmed, but I read some stuff on boardgamegeek and thenaf about plastic goblins, resin secret weapons and halflings (which would be easier to produce considering there is only one kind of halfling...a halfling.)

Nurgle and Elves were shown in the concept art. Based on the art they look like pro/elven union with the cyber elf look (which I prefer over the standard tolkienesque elves).

Regardless there aren't any more significant releases coming this month as far as I can tell, gonna have to see what january brings.

Vorian wrote:I actually tracked down the twitch show, the only real thing of note was that the big guys will be on the same size of base as everyone else.

That is good, a bit interesting though. I have a hard time seeing ogres and trolls on 32mm. They likely won't have room on the base to breathe or have a lot of foot room.

 plastictrees wrote:
That's good to know.

Do we have any 'confirmed' list of plastic releases? I'm assuming the dwarves are for sure based on the leaked pics.
The only other teams mentioned so far are Nurgle and 'Elves' (Union?) correct?

The only thing we have actually know are the dwarfs and that there's an Ogre on the way.

Reports back from things like open days seem to conflict with each other, so nothing is really certain.

They did confirm yesterday that they intend to make a model of every star player they release rules for - and they mentioned that season 2 is in development at the moment.

The whole point with big guys was that they would be difficult to use in a small grid?

I've played for years like this and finished every game.

What would the maximum possible amount of big guys in one game be? At least 12 if you have 2 ogre teams against each other. Don't know if there are any additional star players with big bases available to them.

Seems like GW is pretty much giving out the already rules, stats and prices for teams and star players. Except in a slow pace. Originally there were long lists of star players, but in season one there's only a small collection. Will they ever catch up, or how long time could it take?

How many star players will we lose in GW's version?

Maybe it will be no problem to keep using previous star players since the rules haven't changed much.

Vorian wrote:

 plastictrees wrote:
That's good to know.

Do we have any 'confirmed' list of plastic releases? I'm assuming the dwarves are for sure based on the leaked pics.
The only other teams mentioned so far are Nurgle and 'Elves' (Union?) correct?

The only thing we have actually know are the dwarfs and that there's an Ogre on the way.

Reports back from things like open days seem to conflict with each other, so nothing is really certain.

They did confirm yesterday that they intend to make a model of every star player they release rules for - and they mentioned that season 2 is in development at the moment.

I'm curious to see the new dwarfs.
The ogre will fit into the human team. How about the skaven team?

The 40mm bases fit perfectly fine on the new board anyway, Sauron is currently having a run out as a troll for my brothers orcs and he doesn't really get in the way.

I'm sure they're will be very many star players over the years, I wouldn't worry about it.

The dwarfs can be seen already, on the app, on the first page of this thread. The Ogre will probably not be able to play for the Skaven - the twitch show actually mentioned the island of blood Rat Ogre as a stop gap too (they couldn't remember what it had been renamed to which gave me a chuckle)

New 'Match Events' DLC available to purchase in the Blood Bowl app.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/16/match-events-for-blood-bowl-my-dugout/

 Ghaz wrote:
New 'Match Events' feature added to the Blood Bowl app.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/16/match-events-for-blood-bowl-my-dugout/

I remember in the BB2 game a gyrocopter or something crashed on the field (use the scatter template to randomly place it on the board), and it blocked off some movement squares. If you got pushed into it, your unit gets KO'd (presumably because it was still spinning). I hope there is something like that in there. Stuff like this is a great opportunity to create scenery and custom make little stuff for use in the game so i'll probably buy it, I want to support further development of the game and its models.

Yeah,
I found a pair of Deathrunners on eBay for £8
£4 each bargain.

Just a quick chopping block photo to show size between deathrunner and gutterrunner.
I've removed the deathrunner's swords and helmet crest blade.


She looks like a perfect match to me.
Lightly armoured and in a energetic pose.

Panic...

Please enlighten us.
Deathrunners are what?

They're from Silver Tower.

They look alright I suppose, a bit too spiky for my liking and they have the horrible hands syndrome you get when you chop the weapons off a model, instead of looking empty handed it just looks like a model with its weapon chopped off.

If you wanted you could buy the Deathrunners alongside a 2nd box of Skavenblight Scramblers and use some of the spare hands on the Deathrunners.

I'm going to wait a bit before I do anything like that though, GW may turn around and release new figures themselves and the professional sculptors at GW can usually do a better job than me

Thanks!

I think the Deathrunners look okay, also the hands.
I'll try the same with Beastmen as linemen for my Chaos team.

The deathrunner is a good model, but IMO its an AoS invention and not really the best representation of a classic gutter runner. For me gutter runners are lightly armored, cloaked and sneaky. If I was going to use the deathrunner, i'd probably leave the sword. As they sneak weapons onto the field anyway, plus the closed fist syndrome is not something i'm gonna tolerate on my models. If you want some variety in your force they are a decent option though, beats having four duplicate gutter runners.

Yeah,

AllvSeeingSkink wrote:
...they have the horrible hands syndrome you get when you chop the weapons off a model, instead of looking empty handed it just looks like a model with its weapon chopped off...

I know what you mean.
This was a quick photo to show size for those interested.

When I get around to doing this team, I will hollow out the hand by removing some plastic to create a empty hand grip.
Like I did with these guys when I removed their swords and axes.

It won't be perfect but IMO better than 4 identical gutterrunners.

Panic...

 Thargrim wrote:
The deathrunner is a good model, but IMO its an AoS invention and not really the best representation of a classic gutter runner. For me gutter runners are lightly armored, cloaked and sneaky. If I was going to use the deathrunner, i'd probably leave the sword. As they sneak weapons onto the field anyway, plus the closed fist syndrome is not something i'm gonna tolerate on my models. If you want some variety in your force they are a decent option though, beats having four duplicate gutter runners.

I think that's probably what I don't like about the Deathrunner, looks like an AoS version of a Skaven

At the moment I'm happy with 2 Gutter Runners anyway, so I can wait and see if GW or FW come up with an alternative (though I'd worry about those long tails in resin).

2 Gutter Runners + Thrower + 2 Storm Vermin + 7 Linemen + 4 rerolls seems like a decent team to me. So I actually need an extra lineman, lol.


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 Panic wrote:

When I get around to doing this team, I will hollow out the hand by removing some plastic to create a empty hand grip.
Like I did with these guys when I removed their swords and axes.

The hole in the hand looks better but still a bit weird, the thumb is in the wrong place and people tend not to tuck their fingers in to their palm unless they're forming a fist but then if they're punching they shouldn't have the hole. So it just ends up looking like they should be holding the haft of something.

Wouldn't using a strip of green stuff and some small ball bearings or bits of plasticard to make knuckle dusters or punch daggers work better than an empty hand?

Do we have any idea when those dwarves are coming out?

 AduroT wrote:
Do we have any idea when those dwarves are coming out?

Thought I heard some guesstimate January, but I don't think I have seen any facts or good sources supporting that.