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Sooner or later the 20 year old Catachans and 15 year old Cadians will have to be redone or replaced. Hopefully the IG will finally get a plastic kit on par with the Empire Handgunners, GS cult, Skitarii and Necromunda kits.

When that happy day comes what should GW do? Replace the Cadians, put out a different regiment, put out a new one?

Assuming of course we don't get a dozen regiment kits of course... Let's just assume there can be only one.

New or other non cadian regiment including female guard.

Its like Primaris - I doubt they will make just new Cadians as everyone has loads of them.

New stuff is more likely to sell.

I would personally like to see either Vostroyan first born, or if they want to make a new regiment. I want to see something more ancient and imperial looking, I don’t want this modern army aesthetic thing they got going with Cadia and catachan. Something that looks like the Rogue Trader guys in the new box set would be nice.

Also, update imperial tanks to look less modern. Needs more bling.

The Catachan's were never something I liked, the sculps never looked good, the 80's action hero thing doesn't quite work anymore, and these kits never moved off the shelf, I never understood why GW pushed them so much. I've never seen an actual Catachan-model guard army in my life on a table.

The Cadians arent bad, but need different heads. The helmets look like seizure safety helmets with the exaggerated head sizes, and all the facial expressions look like intense constipation.

I'd love new plastic Steel Legion, those could fit amazingly well as the new standard line.

Edit: i wouldn't mind the Vostroyans either if they had helmet options and not just the bearskin caps, I don't like the caps.

 Brutus_Apex wrote:
I would personally like to see either Vostroyan first born, or if they want to make a new regiment. I want to see something more ancient and imperial looking, I don’t want this modern army aesthetic thing they got going with Cadia and catachan. Something that looks like the Rogue Trader guys in the new box set would be nice.

Yeah, agreed.

Modernized Guard would be cool, alongside a bigger box of RT voidsmen so you can have both old and modern looking humans in flak armor with lasguns.

I'd love to have the old Archadian Spiders in updated plastic. With the oversized helmets and impractical shoulderpads they're just on the right side of stupid for me.



While I have a million of the 2nd edition metal guard, I'm not sure I'd want another 'historical army with lasguns' as the default force.

My one request would be MAKE SURE THEY ARE COMPATIBLE, building Van Saar still gives me nightmares.

Either make another existing regiment in plastic or make a completely new one.

All right, someone voted for the Catachams! Give those Rambo wannabes some love!

I voted for Make another existing regiment in plastic. As my own large Guard force is non-Cadian...even though it has lots of Cadian models. I just did conversion work to make a lot of them different and more in line with the original Guard from back in Rogue Trader days.

My two cents,

CB

I'd want a new plastic line, either an existing one or a new one if GW can make it look good. I don't see Cadians or Catachan getting refreshed since GW has mostly been focusing on new never before seen models and factions, not updating the older lines or redoing existing kits.

In the third or fourth edition codex there was a sketch of some IG in long coats and modernish body armor. I think they may have been labeled as the Necromunda Spiders. I would like to see them or the Vostroyans, or some other heavily Blanched mini design. The Starstriders look great, but I'd like to see something a little less Love Boat Security and more ...well, Imperial Guard.


Oh, and at least a few female heads and bodies should be on the sprue.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
All right, someone voted for the Catachams! Give those Rambo wannabes some love!

Well the new Marbo is pretty awesome, completely the opposite of what I usually like in an army, but I'll probably end up getting him.

I’d be very happy with any of the retired metal regiments redone in plastic.

I'd want to see the Cadians re-done. They are probably the most boring, 'vanilla'-looking regiment, which makes them a great base for conversions.
Of course, I'd prefer seeing them do two or three regiments more in plastic (Steel Legion and Vostroyan Firstborn to be precise).

Speaking with my "if I was a GW exec" hat on for a moment, and looking at trends, what we know about sales etc I'd go with a new regiment, introduce rules for a new regiment, they'd have new war gear options etc and would basicly be a regiment that is "guilliman's new envisioning of the guard" (maybe go with the Ultramar Auxilleria as the new regiment simply because it'd make sense he'd roll major changes out there first) they'd ahve some new war gear options and have an intreasting blend of old and new looking armor, with design elements borrowed from some of the most popular metal ranges.

the guard would have new choices of weapons etc (if the primaris marine replacement has moved along then perhaps give them bolt guns and fluff it as "since the IoM has a surplus of old boltguns now..."

It simply makes sense that after getting the Space Marines into a form Gulliman likes, he'd look at reforms in other branches of the Imperial military. and introducing a new range that is "gulliman's standardized equipment" is proably a good idea for GW as the guard fluff right now still harkens back to the old days of "MAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE!" which is obviously away from GW's stance now.

The last thing we need is anything Space Marine related getting involved in anything Guard related

BrianDavion wrote:
Speaking with my "if I was a GW exec" hat on for a moment, and looking at trends, what we know about sales etc I'd go with a new regiment, introduce rules for a new regiment, they'd have new war gear options etc and would basicly be a regiment that is "guilliman's new envisioning of the guard" (maybe go with the Ultramar Auxilleria as the new regiment simply because it'd make sense he'd roll major changes out there first) they'd ahve some new war gear options and have an intreasting blend of old and new looking armor, with design elements borrowed from some of the most popular metal ranges.

the guard would have new choices of weapons etc (if the primaris marine replacement has moved along then perhaps give them bolt guns and fluff it as "since the IoM has a surplus of old boltguns now..."

It simply makes sense that after getting the Space Marines into a form Gulliman likes, he'd look at reforms in other branches of the Imperial military. and introducing a new range that is "gulliman's standardized equipment" is proably a good idea for GW as the guard fluff right now still harkens back to the old days of "MAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE!" which is obviously away from GW's stance now.

Any of the above would completely kill any interest I have in IG.

 Bobthehero wrote:
The last thing we need is anything Space Marine related getting involved in anything Guard related

Gulliman isn't just a space marine though, he's the Lord Commander of the IoM Bob, that means he directs all military wings of the IoM. and as I said it's reasonable to assume after modernizing the Astartes he'd look towards modernizing the guard.

New Regiment all the way!

HoundsofDemos wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Speaking with my "if I was a GW exec" hat on for a moment, and looking at trends, what we know about sales etc I'd go with a new regiment, introduce rules for a new regiment, they'd have new war gear options etc and would basicly be a regiment that is "guilliman's new envisioning of the guard" (maybe go with the Ultramar Auxilleria as the new regiment simply because it'd make sense he'd roll major changes out there first) they'd ahve some new war gear options and have an intreasting blend of old and new looking armor, with design elements borrowed from some of the most popular metal ranges.

the guard would have new choices of weapons etc (if the primaris marine replacement has moved along then perhaps give them bolt guns and fluff it as "since the IoM has a surplus of old boltguns now..."

It simply makes sense that after getting the Space Marines into a form Gulliman likes, he'd look at reforms in other branches of the Imperial military. and introducing a new range that is "gulliman's standardized equipment" is proably a good idea for GW as the guard fluff right now still harkens back to the old days of "MAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE!" which is obviously away from GW's stance now.

Any of the above would completely kill any interest I have in IG.

Well they would bascially look like the Imperial Army from the original RT days - Boltguns, jetbikes, Land Raiders - halicon days.....

GW should make an entirely female regiment just to mess with the gakposters.

Plastic DKoK would be fab. Practical too as it would let FW concentrate on HH and specialist games. Also quite a few folk have been wanting greatcoat IG for some time I think.

Failing that, plastic Vostroyans would be good but my money would be on Steel Legion getting the update treatment if any of the existing armies get it.

I doubt we’ll get any kind of update... more likey a reorganisation into a new Imperial Army by Guilliman so they can do a whole new range of models. It’s the new GW way. Selling a whole new Primaris Militarum force to a player makes them more dollar than hoping people update old models.

Mordians pls!

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
In the third or fourth edition codex there was a sketch of some IG in long coats and modernish body armor. I think they may have been labeled as the Necromunda Spiders. I would like to see them or the Vostroyans, or some other heavily Blanched mini design. The Starstriders look great, but I'd like to see something a little less Love Boat Security and more ...well, Imperial Guard.


Oh, and at least a few female heads and bodies should be on the sprue.

Give me this as Imperial Guard and I'll buy tons! (But to be honest probably they would be too similar to Skitarii Vanguards)

As a side question though... When do you think we'll see a new guard line? I would not even guess it's in gw planning phase yet. My guestimate would be something like 5 years.

 Mr Morden wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
Speaking with my "if I was a GW exec" hat on for a moment, and looking at trends, what we know about sales etc I'd go with a new regiment, introduce rules for a new regiment, they'd have new war gear options etc and would basicly be a regiment that is "guilliman's new envisioning of the guard" (maybe go with the Ultramar Auxilleria as the new regiment simply because it'd make sense he'd roll major changes out there first) they'd ahve some new war gear options and have an intreasting blend of old and new looking armor, with design elements borrowed from some of the most popular metal ranges.

the guard would have new choices of weapons etc (if the primaris marine replacement has moved along then perhaps give them bolt guns and fluff it as "since the IoM has a surplus of old boltguns now..."

It simply makes sense that after getting the Space Marines into a form Gulliman likes, he'd look at reforms in other branches of the Imperial military. and introducing a new range that is "gulliman's standardized equipment" is proably a good idea for GW as the guard fluff right now still harkens back to the old days of "MAKE WHATEVER YOU LIKE!" which is obviously away from GW's stance now.

Any of the above would completely kill any interest I have in IG.

Well they would bascially look like the Imperial Army from the original RT days - Boltguns, jetbikes, Land Raiders - halicon days.....

keep in mind the bolt guns would also be an OPTIONAL upgrade as well, mostly an excuse to add new stuff to the sprue to enchourage people to buy the new guard squads. a new kit requires new options and that seems like a pretty natural change because, well it's something they had back in the RT days

 Galas wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
In the third or fourth edition codex there was a sketch of some IG in long coats and modernish body armor. I think they may have been labeled as the Necromunda Spiders. I would like to see them or the Vostroyans, or some other heavily Blanched mini design. The Starstriders look great, but I'd like to see something a little less Love Boat Security and more ...well, Imperial Guard.


Oh, and at least a few female heads and bodies should be on the sprue.

Give me this as Imperial Guard and I'll buy tons! (But to be honest probably they would be too similar to Skitarii Vanguards)

Spoiler:

Me too. If we get those Goodwin Guard finally I’ll open my wallet with reckless abandon...

Please please Mordians or Praetorians! If they were in plastic I'd buy a thousand