AdeptiCon 2012 marked our tenth anniversary, and as we move into the second decade of our wargaming journey we would like to once again thank all the attendees, sponsors, vendors and volunteers for making AdeptiCon what it is – the premier celebration of the miniature wargaming hobby! Last year over 1850 attendees from across the globe descended on the Westin Lombard Yorktown Center to engage in conflicts across a myriad of worlds…yet the battle continues!

AdeptiCon 2013 is the beginning of a new era, one that promises new adventures and expanded horizons! You won’t want to miss this! Pre-registration will open in early November, so clear your schedules and start making travel plans!

What: AdeptiCon 2013!
When: April 18th – 21st, 2013
Where: Westin Lombard Yorktown Center (Lombard, Illinois) – Make Your Hotel Reservations Now!

Check the AdeptiCon website over the next several months for additional news concerning the convention, pre-registration, specific events, special guests and more!

AdeptiCon 2013 Rules
Warhammer 40K Championships
Warhammer 40K: The Friendly 2013
Horus Heresy - Betrayal
Warhammer 40K Combat Patrol
Warhammer 40K Gladiator
Warhammer 40K Warzone Tournament
Warhammer 40K Team Tournament
Warhammer 40K Youngbloods Tournament
Zone Mortalis: The Sin of Alacrity
AdeptiCon 2013 Allowable Imperial Armour and Apocalypse Units
AdeptiCon 2013 Warhammer 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ

Warhammer Fantasy 'It's How You Use It' Tournament
Warhammer Fantasy Team Tournament
Warhammer Fantasy Championships

Warmachine/Hordes Iron Arena
Warmachine/Hordes Hardcore! Tournament
Warmachine/Hordes Blood, Sweat and Tiers
Warmachine/Hordes Team Tournament
Warmachine/Hordes Who's the Boss?
Warmachine/Hordes Speedmachine
Warmachine/Hordes Masters Finale

Malifaux Cake Match 3
AdeptiCon Malifaux Team Tournament
AdeptiCon Masters of Malifaux 2013
Malifaux Story Encounter Tournament & Costume Party
Malifaux Avatar of AdeptiCon (Finals)

Flames of War Mid-War Tournament
Flames of War Late-War Tournament
Flames of War Early-War Team Tournament

Lord of the Rings March to Mount Doom
Lord of the Rings Championships
Lord of the Rings Team Tournament

Battletech: Bloodname Tournament
Epic Armageddon Challenge
Hail Caesar Match Play
Infinity Tournament
Infinity Laboratory Assault
Necromunda By Night
Necromunda: Sunrise
Stupor Bowl VI
Warhammer Ancients Singles Tournament
Warhammer Ancients Doubles Tournament
Warmaster Tournament

Looking forward to our 3rd Adepticon

Before I make hotel reservations - is Thursday going to be a full day this year?

@Janth

Good call. I didn't even think about that when I made my reservation for Thursday-Saturday night...

Which I did so that I could make sure I had a room

I was going to ask that, too... although I doubt I could swing coming in sooner than Thursday, anyway.

Janthkin
Before I make hotel reservations - is Thursday going to be a full day this year.

Good catch!

Well a couple things.

1. We have secured the entire Harry Caray event space for the weekend. So we have significantly more space than previous years!

2. In conjunction with the additional space, we also have a large portion of the venue a full day earlier. We have the Grand Ballroom and the Harry Caray space starting Thursday. So I would expect a full slate of events, seminars and activities on Thursday.

We have a pretty good idea what we want to do with this extra day. But, we are still sorting out the details, taking in feedback and absorbing our thoughts on the release of 6th edition like everyone else.

So, for 2013, AdeptiCon goes to eleven, is one 1 louder, and yes one more day!

Hank Edley

Sounds cool! Most likely, I'll try to arrive Thursday morning and catch some of the happenings in the afternoon. Will be nice to have that be an actual "day", since many guys I know on here arrived early this year.

Hotel booked, now to begin Event Prep.

ADB and Black Library please!

Chump that I am, I reserved a hotel room even though I likely won't be able to attend.

You know. Just in case.

Lorek wrote:Chump that I am, I reserved a hotel room even though I likely won't be able to attend.

You know. Just in case.

Good thing as I already have you down for staff ! : )

We are officially well into planning season. Preregistration looms and it is time to begin burying you with information:

Preregistration and Hotel News
AdeptiCon returns on Thursday, April 18, 2013 for our annual celebration of the miniature wargaming hobby! Once more, the Westin Lombard Yorktown Center will host the festivities and the entire hotel will be devoted to the AdeptiCon experience! For the first time ever, AdeptiCon will feature a full slate of events on Thursday, giving you FOUR full days to experience all that AdeptiCon has to offer.

A full schedule will be posted shortly before the web cart goes live on Monday, November 12th. Last year, our most popular events sold out within days, so act quickly to reserve your spot in the events of your choice!

The Westin is Approaching Critical Mass! Based solely off our announcement this past summer, reservations at the Westin Lombard Yorktown Center have already filled 75% of our block for 2013. Don’t delay – make your hotel reservations today! The Westin Lombard Yorktown Center is taking reservations at our convention rate of $121/night.

AdeptiCon Warhammer Fantasy Team Tournament
The AdeptiCon Warhammer Fantasy Team Tournament has set the standard for 2-person team play in the Fantasy realm. To give these partnerships more chances to shine, the AdeptiCon Warhammer Fantasy Team Tournament will shift to a full-day, 3-round format on Friday, April 19th! If you haven’t already, its time to start coming up with your team’s theme, because the competition will be fierce on all fronts!

Warhammer Fantasy Championships
Every year, the best Warhammer Fantasy players from across the country and the world come to AdeptiCon to test their mettle. This year, the AdeptiCon Warhammer Fantasy Championships will shift to a 2-day/5-game format with three games on Saturday, April 20th, two games on Sunday, April 21st. With the expanded format, expect the competition, generalship and artistry to reach new heights! This will definitely be the ‘can’t miss’ event for Warhammer Fantasy players in 2013!

Warhammer 40K Team Tournament
By popular demand, the AdeptiCon Warhammer 40K Team Tournament will now span two days of allied carnage! The event will now feature a full 5 rounds (3 on Saturday, April 20th and 2 on Sunday, April 21st), 128 teams and a more relaxed the schedule. The Warhammer 40K Team Tournament has continually raised the bar in terms of army design, theme, and presentation – yet this is often lost in the fast and hectic pace of the weekend. In order to make sure everyone can enjoy what the best of the hobby has to offer, the top contenders for Best Team Appearance and Best Team Theme/Presentation will be placed on display in the main Warhammer 40K hall for everyone to enjoy!

Warhammer 40K Championships
The AdeptiCon weekend kicks off with the AdeptiCon Warhammer 40K Championships Qualifier on Thursday, April 18th – a 4-round, self-contained event with a full slate of awards and prizes. The top 16 players will move on to the finals on Friday and play four additional rounds to determine the AdeptiCon Warmaster! No more 5AM games on Sunday! No longer will you have to wait until the AdeptiCon weekend is over to discover who has emerged as the winner! What if you do not qualify? Don’t panic, there will be plenty of other Friday events that you can participate in, including the Warhammer 40K Gladiator, Warhammer 40K Friendly, and many others.

Stay tuned for news and info relating to: Hobby Seminars, Warmachine/Hordes, Flames of War, King of War, Malifaux, Dust Warfare, X-Wing, Historicals and Open Gaming!

What time will it be opening up on Monday, November 12th? My team tournament entry is already set but I don't wanna miss out on any of the other stuff I might be interested in

2 days of Team Tournament action; that should be pretty interesting! But I can read between the lines - it's all about the crew getting older, and needing more sleep on Saturday night.

Hard to settle on a theme, though, without knowing what 6e & Allies rules will do to the underlying format.

It's going to be my first (hopefully) hope to meet some people there

 Janthkin wrote:
2 days of Team Tournament action; that should be pretty interesting! But I can read between the lines - it's all about the crew getting older, and needing more sleep on Saturday night.

Hard to settle on a theme, though, without knowing what 6e & Allies rules will do to the underlying format.

5AM on Sunday morning the last two years was brutal. I wish to avoid that at all costs. Draft rules should be out shortly after the cart goes live, but plan on most 6th edition rules being in there. Team Members will not be able to directly take allies, as you will act as allies with your 3 other Teammates. We will be using the Allies rules from 6th (as opposed to the Brothers in Arms rules from previous years) - Battle Brothers will stay Battle Brothers and everyone else will be considered Allies of Convenience in order to facilitate the Team environment. Most of the old rules concerning your Commander/Commander Head will now transfer to your army's Warlord. More soon.


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 Hulksmash wrote:
What time will it be opening up on Monday, November 12th? My team tournament entry is already set but I don't wanna miss out on any of the other stuff I might be interested in

I believe we decided on 7PM CDT. When we send out links to the webcart and all that we will have the definitive time listed.

Stoked. Team Tournament as usual ... are ya'll doing the 40k Friendly again? I actually enjoyed that despite my last second join last year ... I'd be sorely tempted to do it again.

MVBrandt wrote:
Stoked. Team Tournament as usual ... are ya'll doing the 40k Friendly again? I actually enjoyed that despite my last second join last year ... I'd be sorely tempted to do it again.

Yep. Yep. Friday night. AdeptiCon goes to 11 this year, you guess the theme!

 Matthias wrote:

MVBrandt wrote:
Stoked. Team Tournament as usual ... are ya'll doing the 40k Friendly again? I actually enjoyed that despite my last second join last year ... I'd be sorely tempted to do it again.

Yep. Yep. Friday night. AdeptiCon goes to 11 this year, you guess the theme!

Don't bring a drummer-based army?

 Janthkin wrote:

 Matthias wrote:

MVBrandt wrote:
Stoked. Team Tournament as usual ... are ya'll doing the 40k Friendly again? I actually enjoyed that despite my last second join last year ... I'd be sorely tempted to do it again.

Yep. Yep. Friday night. AdeptiCon goes to 11 this year, you guess the theme!

Don't bring a drummer-based army?

Damn Noise Marines are going to get a buff

I have kind of mixed feelings regarding the team tournament going to two days. I love the idea of an extra game, but I also liked having separate days to do other things. Might makes things complicated for us ADHD gamers who bring multiple systems to play with. But I have to admit that this year was a very early start and by the time you are halfway through game 4 most people are either exhausted or drunk (sometimes both).

Excited and nervous. This will be my first adepticon and my first time venturing away from the nest without a chaperon.

Any advice for booking this trip? I was hoping to play in the 40k championship.

Well, just made my hotel reservations. I am stoked. I sure am going to be spamming that refresh button to make my preregistration on the 12th.

Hopefully I can finally make it this year. Been trying to make it for years, but something always comes up.

We are busy putting the final touches on the webcart for AdeptiCon 2013 and it is shaping up to be the largest and most varied offering of events to date! All your favorites have returned, many with newly revised schedules and offerings, but what would AdeptiCon be without new experiences? Joining the ranks of such classics like Warhammer, Warmachine, Flames of War, Malifaux and Lord of the Rings, we are pleased to announce several new events ready to round out your weekend: Battletech makes a triumphant return with a new slate of events, Kings of War and Dreadball make their AdeptiCon debut, Hail Caesar and Saga bolster the historical offerings, X-Wing checks in with the inaugural AdeptiCon Dogfight Tournament, Hyacinth Games will be showcasing Wreck Age in all its post-apocalyptic glory and several old classics like Inquisitor, Necromunda and Warmaster awaken once again.

It is impossible to cover everything in this update, so head on over to the AdeptiCon 2013 Webcart and see the myriad of events for yourself. The webcart is about 90% complete at this time. Please be aware that events and event times are still subject to change and that new events or seminars might be added before Monday – but this should give you a good starting point to begin planning your weekend!

Preregistration opens on Monday, November 12th at 7PM CST.

Can't wait!

Dose anyone have an estimate on how fast the championship will sell out?

 Happygrunt wrote:
Dose anyone have an estimate on how fast the championship will sell out?

Who knows? Last year, they went in a matter of days. This year, with the event moved to Thursday, it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

The Warhammer 40K Championships sold out in about 21 hours last year, but it is anyone's guess this year with it moving to Thursday. The Warhammer 40K Team Tournament sold out in 17 hours last year - I expect that one to still go pretty fast.

For your planning pleasure: AdeptiCon 2013 Event Schedule
I am still waiting on a handful of items and updates, but as of this morning it is accurate.

Your poor web server is going to get hammered on Monday.

Just upgraded the hardware and rebuilt everything. Fingers crossed. I think if last year's machine held up - this one should do just fine.

Starting earlier on Thursday?

Correct, we have a full 4 day schedule for 2013.

Great, so is registration Thursday morning or Wednesday?

Registration at AdeptiCon will open on Wednesday at 7:00 pm and will continue throughout the weekend.

So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

muwhe wrote:
Registration at AdeptiCon will open on Wednesday at 7:00 pm and will continue throughout the weekend.

So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

What if I want to take you out to a nice steak dinner and never call you again?

muwhe wrote:
Registration at AdeptiCon will open on Wednesday at 7:00 pm and will continue throughout the weekend.

So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

Wait, hold on, so I buy my event tickets on monday and then need to pick them up wednesday? What am I missing?

 Happygrunt wrote:

muwhe wrote:
Registration at AdeptiCon will open on Wednesday at 7:00 pm and will continue throughout the weekend.

So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

Wait, hold on, so I buy my event tickets on monday and then need to pick them up wednesday? What am I missing?

First timer huh no he is saying you can purchase your tickets this Monday, but Weds night April 17th 2013 you can pick everything up. In years past it was always on the Thursday of the event opening.

 Empchild wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:

muwhe wrote:
Registration at AdeptiCon will open on Wednesday at 7:00 pm and will continue throughout the weekend.

So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

Wait, hold on, so I buy my event tickets on monday and then need to pick them up wednesday? What am I missing?

First timer huh no he is saying you can purchase your tickets this Monday, but Weds night April 17th 2013 you can pick everything up. In years past it was always on the Thursday of the event opening.

Okay, gotcha!

I assume there is some sort of convention ticket I will need to purchase? If so, how much are those?

And I am flying in wednesday night, how late is the pick up going to be open?

If it is anything like this year it will be that evening, and resume in the morning for people coming in on Thursday.

Registration will stay open until at least Midnight on Wednesday. We'll keep it open later if there is the demand. There will also be an early check-in area for the Warhammer 40K Championships so people can get that out of the way the night before.

Everything you need to register on Monday can be found here:

http://cart.adepticon.org

You'll need the Weekend Badge (required) and any event/seminar tickets you want to participate in.

Whoo! Countdown...

 Empchild wrote:

muwhe wrote:
So if you want to come in early and get signed in you will be able to do so.

What if I want to take you out to a nice steak dinner and never call you again?

Hank Mantooth is a SAINT! You understand me? A SAINT!

T- minus 5. Who's spamming F5 already? Lord knows I am.

lol, it crashed

Does kind of seem that way.

Yep : )

I thought you said this wouldn't happen my friend!

Well, at least it's a good thing for you, I think your event might be popular

I'm s...l...o...w...l...y... progressing through. I've got a badge & the Championship in my cart, and I'm working on making it to the checkout page.

I ran into the problem that it deletes my information for my badge since it times out going into the cart

I'm into the checkout process so its moving....just slowly

 Hulksmash wrote:
I ran into the problem that it deletes my information for my badge since it times out going into the cart

That might be working as intended for you....

That comment means you owe me a drink in Chicago my friend

 Hulksmash wrote:
That comment means you owe me a drink in Chicago my friend

Done...assuming we both get there!

Give it time. I got all mine taken care of now. Team tournament and friendly are a go!

Couple of false starts for me - I was going to quick-pay, to get off their server & on to PayPal's, but I have a volunteer voucher to redeem, so I had to actually log in to the site first. But done now.

In the time it took (20 minutes), Championships tickets went from 246 to 161; Team Tourney tickets are down to 50.

edit: 30 minutes in, 104 Champs tickets, 21 team tickets left. Wow!

Got mine...championships and team tourney. I'm fired up for my first Adepticon!

Team tournament is going to sell out within the hour. I'm locked in for the Gladiator, Team Tournament, and championships

I have a 40k championship ticket that.i will be handing out soon as a contest.

I got my team tournament, 40k championships, and a Warmachine ticket!

Wow, 40k friendly sold out in 30 minutes.

Got my ticket, First Adepticon for me and I am taking my nephew (age 13), we are doing a couple hobby seminars and a 40K combat patrol. He does not have enough points yet for an army in anything else. I am trying to get him to get to the Youngblood level but not holding my breath this year. Good luck everyone!

P.S. I forgot my password so had to not login when buying the tickets but went straight to paypal. Is the password reset toast? I have tried twice to reset and has been over 45 minutes from the first one.

Team Tournament went in 52 minutes....

Well, missed the chance to get a friendly ticket (SERIOUSLY! 30 MINUTES!?!?) but I am holding a weekend badge and a championship ticket. This is going to be my first adepticon, so hopefully I will get to meet many of the dakka personalities. And, you know, maybe win the championship.

Oh? 30 Minutes? You mean I accidentally signed up for something I wasn't sure about doing and it's the hot ticket? Sweet.

This will be my first Adepticon, see y'alls next year

 FlatlanderBoss2.0 wrote:
Oh? 30 Minutes? You mean I accidentally signed up for something I wasn't sure about doing and it's the hot ticket? Sweet.

Well if you don't want it, you can always give it to me.

The Championships are obviously less popular as a Thursday event - I mean, there's still 20 tickets left, and registration has been open for 99 minutes already.

@Janth

I think quite a bit of it is people signing up even if they aren't sure they'll be making it just to reserve a spot. But yeah, stuff is going fast as hell.

 Hulksmash wrote:
@Janth

I think quite a bit of it is people signing up even if they aren't sure they'll be making it just to reserve a spot. But yeah, stuff is going fast as hell.

I thought I would be safe doing my registration at 5:30 PST. Apparently, I was wrong. Glad I got my tickets when I did though.

So kinda bummed I missed out on a getting a team ticket, is there any kind of waiting list? I imagine there will be people who bought one and will end up not having a team together.

Glad I got my singles ticket though at least, those are almost gone now too.

There is a waiting list, and I HIGHLY recommend getting on it. Some friends of mine were about 20 teams down on the list (if not more) and got in last year. There is always going to be some drops and what not, and there's a fairly good chance you'll get an invite, especially if you're near the top.

Any idea how to get on it? I guess just email?

And the VIP badges sold out right about five minutes ago.

Edit: Whoops, I thouht this was the Adepticon News a.k.a "Is everything sold out yet?" thread.

 morgendonner wrote:
Any idea how to get on it? I guess just email?

For now send an email to info@adepticon.org

I think they might put a web cart thing up, but that's probably the quickest way to get on it. Also try adepticon@gmail.com

One of those emails will get read by someone who can handle a wait list addition for ya.

Thanks, sent them both an email. I'll let everyone else know what they say in case others are interested.

In. Yow. Even faster than last year.

 Arander wrote:

 morgendonner wrote:
Any idea how to get on it? I guess just email?

For now send an email to info@adepticon.org

I think they might put a web cart thing up, but that's probably the quickest way to get on it. Also try adepticon@gmail.com

One of those emails will get read by someone who can handle a wait list addition for ya.

Dose this apply for all events or for just the Team Tournament?


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 Mannahnin wrote:
In. Yow. Even faster than last year.

What did you sign up for?

Thanks for bearing with us. Felt a bit like a space-age Scottish engineer on this side of things. Managed to keep the server alive - it just got hit hard. About 700 or so people smashed into the gates with their F5 key as I turned on the cart. Ouch. We pissed off Yahoo too since we send a copy of all registrations to an address there. Anyone with a yahoo.com email address should have a confirmation email by now.

Working on getting info about wait lists. For now, just send an email to info@adepticon.org with the name of the event your are looking to get into. I'll be building these tomorrow in order received.

@Morpheus Shoot me an email at the above address if you are having trouble resetting your password and I'll get it taken care of.

Got my ticket, taking it easy on events this year. Only signed up for the WFB 1000 tournament on Thursday and the Infinity tournament on Saturday night. Plenty of time for demos, pick-up games, visiting, and/or drinking.

I got the Gladiator and a Combat Patrol. I really wanted the Friendly but man did it go fast. May have to jump on a waiting list. Everyone that I talked with that played in that last year really liked it.

Haven't signed up for any events yet, but I'm considering the Malifaux Cake event and the Warmachine Iron Arena.

I got my vip, and a championship ticket lastnight around 10pm. I woke up this morning and its already sold out cheeze.

What exactly does vip get you at adeptacon?

krootman. wrote:
I got my vip, and a championship ticket lastnight around 10pm. I woke up this morning and its already sold out cheeze.

What exactly does vip get you at adeptacon?

It's right on the page for the weekend badge:

Very Important Gamer Upgrade: We are offering up to 100 attendees the chance to become Very Important Gamers (VIG). As a VIG, you will receive all of the following benefits:

Preferred Registration Line. Why wait in line to pick-up your Weekend Badge, event list and swag bag? You are also guaranteed the full contents of the AdeptiCon Swag Bag, regardless of when you register.
Early Entry to Vendor Hall. Don’t want to wait in long lines to pick up that special item or ask a specific question? The VIG upgrade allows you entrance to the vendor hall 30 minutes before the general public on Friday morning.
AdeptiCon 2013 T-Shirt
AdeptiCon 2013 Glassware
10 tickets for the AdeptiCon Charity Army Raffle

 Alfndrate wrote:

krootman. wrote:
I got my vip, and a championship ticket lastnight around 10pm. I woke up this morning and its already sold out cheeze.

What exactly does vip get you at adeptacon?

It's right on the page for the weekend badge:

Very Important Gamer Upgrade: We are offering up to 100 attendees the chance to become Very Important Gamers (VIG). As a VIG, you will receive all of the following benefits:

Preferred Registration Line. Why wait in line to pick-up your Weekend Badge, event list and swag bag? You are also guaranteed the full contents of the AdeptiCon Swag Bag, regardless of when you register.
Early Entry to Vendor Hall. Don’t want to wait in long lines to pick up that special item or ask a specific question? The VIG upgrade allows you entrance to the vendor hall 30 minutes before the general public on Friday morning.
AdeptiCon 2013 T-Shirt
AdeptiCon 2013 Glassware
10 tickets for the AdeptiCon Charity Army Raffle

I just saw that, thank you

Does anyone know of good/cheapish hotels near AdeptiCon? The Westin is sold out.

Alternate hotel info can be found here:

AdeptiCon 2013 Hotel Info

 Matthias wrote:
Working on getting info about wait lists. For now, just send an email to info@adepticon.org with the name of the event your are looking to get into. I'll be building these tomorrow in order received.

Thanks for the update. I sent an email to that address last night. I can't imagine how swamped you are currently, but will you guys shoot out an email to people to confirm placement on the waiting list? It'd be great just to have an idea of how far down the list I am to get some idea of how likely it is.

The Hyatt Place Lombard is good.

We got ours, can't wait to go again, this year!

 Reecius wrote:
We got ours, can't wait to go again, this year!

Good we want our dinner!

BTW we are working on the Tau!

sadly "the Greg Sparks 5" will not make it in 2013. Work takes me to japan for the first half of next year and another team member has twins due in april as his first children. Have fun!!
2014: We will be back.

 skkipper wrote:
sadly "the Greg Sparks 5" will not make it in 2013. Work takes me to japan for the first half of next year and another team member has twins due in april as his first children. Have fun!!
2014: We will be back.

Having twins in April is the reason I missed last year. Is the actually due date in April? Mine was in may and we had the girls at 36 weeks which is common for twins. Best of luck to him mine were also my first kids. It's awesome either way. This will be my first time getting to go.

the due date was mid april, it has now been moved up to end of march. so either way going to Chicago wasn't in the cards.
I get a paid trip to Nagoya for me and the Family working 40 hr weeks so it will be like a vacation. I will miss drinking jaeger with the Swedes.

I also scored some Golden Demon winning from ebay models to boost my painting scores. :(

Whoot...made it in time for the champs, gladiator, combat patrol, and a little zone mortalis...can't wait to see everyone there....safe travels

Making the return trip this year, but on the fantasy side now!

OO OO will their be any weddings going on at the same time again this year, and maybe a prom or two as those people were so nice and great conversation!

Edit: Draft rules have been moved to the first post of this topic.

40k Team Tournament rules:
Looks like the Command Tokens are gone from the Team event? Sorry to see that - they added a very interesting dynamic to a lot of the missions. I don't care for the "Twists of Fate" as a substitute - it's just a basic reroll mechanic, applicable to situations that may never come up or call for it (e.g., if you never fail a Reserves roll, or don't have anything in Reserves), meaning you may not have to make a meaningful choice as to whether to "keep" the point, or expend it.

I do like the compromise position on FW stuff - broader availability than in some years, but treating everything as "Unique" across the entire TEAM means no stacking of potential "problem" units.

The Theme rules are getting ever harsher on Xenos players. Look at the list of Imperial armies, any of which can fight together with no additional justification and score at least a 3. Now try to find ANY combination that allies with Tyranids that can score similarly. (Does Genestealer Cult even count anymore? It hasn't had anything like "general support" in written form since 3rd edition; Necrons + Blood Angels is far more thematic by modern sources.)

I like the themes we see at the tournament, but unlike painting, it's scoring participants for factors outside of their control, aside from selecting their armies solely for theme. You can work to improve your painting, or include a member in your team who paints better. You can work to improve your play. You can't do anything to improve GW's background to allow a team combination you'd like to play.

Warlord Traits ended up duplicating 80% of what we have traditionally done with Command Tokens. There were too many clarification issues if we kept Command Tokens. The Twist of Fate mechanic harkens back to the old TT mulligan system which seemed fitting in tandem with the return to the 2-day format. It is also entirely possible that certain missions will specify alternate uses for Twist of Fate.

The FW rules are identical to those from the 2012 event.

Simply put Theme in the TT has always been meant to reward 40K canon. It is part of the 40k universe and has been a focus of the TT for years. We've heard this complaint before and created 4 new Theme awards, 3 that specifically recognize Heretical, Xenos and Hybrid Teams.

 Matthias wrote:
Warlord Traits ended up duplicating 80% of what we have traditionally done with Command Tokens. There were too many clarification issues if we kept Command Tokens. The Twist of Fate mechanic harkens back to the old TT mulligan system which seemed fitting in tandem with the return to the 2-day format. It is also entirely possible that certain missions will specify alternate uses for Twist of Fate.

I still think last year's use of Command tokens in Team Cleanse was the best use ever, and the best adaptation to the traditional strategy for that mission. While Warlord traits does offer the possibility of a bonus scoring unit, it's hardly certain.

Speaking for myself, the Command Counters were flat out better than the mulligans. Comes back to making a significant decision pre-battle, plus the ongoing effects on the table top. A reroll is something that simply is; you might never find yourself in one of the limited situations that allow for it, and if you do, you might never roll poorly enough to require it.

The FW rules are identical to those from the 2012 event.

I know; that wasn't directed so much at you as a general comment. This is a good way to handle FW units.

Simply put Theme in the TT has always been meant to reward 40K canon. It is part of the 40k universe and has been a focus of the TT for years. We've heard this complaint before and created 4 new Theme awards, 3 that specifically recognize Heretical, Xenos and Hybrid Teams.

Of course you've heard it before; I bring it up every year. That said, this bracketing system looks harsher than previous scoring systems. A straight 0, in a 60 point category that counts towards your Overall standing, just for bringing Tyranids + anything? Ouch!

I do appreciate the additional detail in the Theme scoring section over previous years; last year in particular still rankles, as we made a legitimate effort towards theme, and scored much lower than if we'd just grabbed 4 of the same army...or joined the Grey Knight-fest. But surely you can see that the straight point allocations in the brackets are advantageous for Imperial armies? With no effort at all, an Imperial team can score 30 with any combination of 8 'dexes, while our afore-mentioned Tyranid + anything team has to put forth significant effort to make it to 10.

Doesn't affect my team this year; our theme has been set for a few months. But I keep gnawing at it, trying to find a method that acknowledges effort at every level, rather than just the highest-possible bracket.

Hi

Overall, I like the draft Team Tournament Rules. The only thing that strikes me as REALLY powerful is using "twists of fate" for reserve re-rolls - increasing that key unit/flyers likelihood of arriving on turn two to 89% without a points investment seems like a little bit much.

I figure that if I read a tournament mechanic and it makes me completely re-think my approach, it may be too good.

Cheers,
Nate Stevens, Captain
Sons of Shatner

 carlosthecraven wrote:
Hi

Overall, I like the draft Team Tournament Rules. The only thing that strikes me as REALLY powerful is using "twists of fate" for reserve re-rolls - increasing that key unit/flyers likelihood of arriving on turn two to 89% without a points investment seems like a little bit much.

I figure that if I read a tournament mechanic and it makes me completely re-think my approach, it may be too good.

Cheers,
Nate Stevens, Captain
Sons of Shatner

Nate,

You are giving up a battle point every time you choose to use a twist of fate regardless of the outcome. That could mean as many as 20 total points missing at the end of the tournament. Reviewing the tight cuts for awards, this could definitely have an impact on standings. At the end of the day it is up to the players to make informed choices about whether or not they believe the effect justifies the cost, opinions and outcomes will vary and that is exactly what we are expecting.


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Jathkin,

In as brief a post as I can justify, there is no reason that fielding Tyranids and another army costs you all your theme points. Examples might include a battle for Macragge team with 2 Ultramarine players and two Tyranid players, a Anphelion Project force with Xenos inquisitor forces and Tyranids is another, and there have been several Genestealer cult armies that have scored well over the years.

The team's theme is judged before the battles begin, by judges, not your opponents. We understand that your battle combinations may not make total sense to your opponents outside the context of your display base and that's OK. We specifically adjusted allies to the least harsh interpretation to account for this.

We will be releasing a development blog article on these topics shortly so please stay tuned.

Regards,

Chris

Rhysk wrote:
Jathkin,

In as brief a post as I can justify, there is no reason that fielding Tyranids and another army costs you all your theme points. Examples might include a battle for Macragge team with 2 Ultramarine players and two Tyranid players, a Anphelion Project force with Xenos inquisitor forces and Tyranids is another, and there have been several Genestealer cult armies that have scored well over the years.

The team's theme is judged before the battles begin, by judges, not your opponents. We understand that your battle combinations may not make total sense to your opponents outside the context of your display base and that's OK. We specifically adjusted allies to the least harsh interpretation to account for this.

We will be releasing a development blog article on these topics shortly so please stay tuned.

Regards,

Chris

Hi Chris,

The theme rules, as written, make NO allowance for an opposition theme.

One of the most frustrating things about the theme rules is knowing what the judges are thinking in terms of what is valid background, and how much background is necessary to be well-supported at the various tiers. So again - last year, Blood Angels + Necrons, which was specifically included in 2 separate codexes, scored far poorer in theme than just reading the theme scoring rules would seem to have explained. Meanwhile, themes derived from a single battle mentioned in a single BL book score pretty well on theme.

What about Genestealer Cults? They haven't had any rules or fluff support for 3 full editions of the game (IIRC). What about fluff that been effectively ret-conned? Do Chaos sacred numbers have any meaning anymore, given that they haven't existed in the past 2 codexes (3, if you count Daemons)? What about the discord between certain chaos gods, which has similarly gone unmentioned? Would Sisters of Battle team up with Grey Knights?

I understand the intent, and I do understand the problem, but you're trying to apply easily quantifiable brackets to a huge, often contradictory, collection of fiction spanning 30 years now. And in focusing on the nebulous "what is supported by the 40k background," you're narrowing the field for really interesting themes (such as an opposition theme).

We'll have to discuss more over beer.

Hi Chris

I am not demanding a change, just tossing my two cents in on a "draft."

The twist of fate I am concerned with isn't likely to cost 20 points since you are going to may the roll 13 times out of 20 without it. The 7 points it will on average to push the rate of success to 18/20 is 7 points well spent if it is difference between victory and defeat even once (as you said, informed decision-making makes this well worth it).

Cheers,
Nate

Basic re-rolls will not be the only use for Twist of Fate. Certain missions may present alternate uses for them (like Command Tokens of old). There will we far more attractive things in play than Reserve re-rolls for some missions and the choice won't be so cut and dry. The Twist of Fate portion will be amended to be clearer in these regards.

Reading through the TT rules, I saw this:

Victory Points gained through the Legendary Fighter Warlord Trait are added to your Coalition’s total for that game as normal,
however the maximum number of Victory Points a Coalition may earn per game is 30.

But on the scoring chart, it states that the overall total points for primary objectives is 250. Divided by 5 rounds = 50. Thats not even counting the secondary objectives.

Is this a misprint or am I not understanding scoring?

Thanks,

Twitch


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Figured it out. The total is for both teams. Got it. Im slow tonight.....

Thanks,

Twitch

Is anyone participating in the Malifaux Cake Tournament?

Additional rules for various events have been released. They are now all conveniently located in the first post of this topic. The final set of draft rules should be released by the end of next week.

The AdeptiCon 2013 Allowable IA/Apoc Units document is almost complete as well. We were waiting on the release of Imperial Armour Vol. 1 Second Edition.

Hi

A question regarding pairing for the Team Touranment. When it was a four round event, it was rotate partners, then choose for the final round.

In the 5 round format, what can we expect, or is it a surprise?

Our speculation is - rotate for rounds 1-3, choose in 4 & 5 but you must have a different partner...

Cheers,
Nate

Nate - your speculation is more than likely correct. That is how we have it now and really the only way it works without serious book keeping. I think it also thematically works well.

I am confirmed going 2013 for my first time to Adepticon. Will eventually buy in for Mantic's Clash of Kings. Now to get painting!

 Matthias wrote:
Nate - your speculation is more than likely correct. That is how we have it now and really the only way it works without serious book keeping. I think it also thematically works well.

Our play group has discussed this as well, and thought that having the 5th round let your opponent choose your team's pairing and vice versa would be very entertaining, and add a taste of strategy.

Just something to consider, if you hadn't already thought about it.

My concern is around combat patrol. I have posted and Matt has answered from Adepticon (Thank you!).

You will notice fortifications are not allowed. My nephew is taking Tau that has no flyers (only army he really has).

At 400 points do people see the flyers getting overpowered? I know some flyers cannot be included but the Necron, Ork, and Marine can bring some just from the top of my head.

We are going to be doing some play testing first of January around how he will deal with flyers, but I showed him an example and it truly scared him on the lethality and invulnerability (do to snap fire) of the flyers at 400 points.

Our play group has discussed this as well, and thought that having the 5th round let your opponent choose your team's pairing and vice versa would be very entertaining, and add a taste of strategy. Just something to consider, if you hadn't already thought about it.

That is on the table as well ... : )

I think the choosing your opponents thing would add a level of complexity and potential flash points after a long weekend of gaming. Just having people pick their teams would be easier and less cumbersome.

Hi

I have no issue with our opponent's picking round 5, and find it very intriguing personally.

BUT I would want that to be a transparent mechanic going into the event,

Cheers,
Nate

The TT rules document will be amended shortly to account for language standardization with the other 40K events, proper Theme examples and the release of the IA Allowable Units list. We'll make sure to include the pairings format too.

I don't know that opponents choice would be round 5, either. Not sure that mechanic works for the final round.

A number of options on the table and being discussed.

- Hank

Hi

Details, details - its use at whatever time is intreguing. Being transparent is the key.

Thank you both for your quick replies to this question (and any other nattering questions/comments I have brought up or will bring up).

Cheers,
Nate

I'm thankful for how quick you guys reply. My main concern is that it's a lot of work to write it up clearly so that 400+ people (or 200+ since really only 1 person per pair needs to understand) can easily understand and assimilate it.

And for thel ast round it could cause some issues, round 1 might be fun. But either way I'm with Carlos that transparency and ease of understanding are key. I'm already excited for Adepticon, and it's still 5 months away!

Thanks for the UPDATES Matthias!

I’m SO looking forward to this year. I’m really happy you guys added a day. If I make it into the finals again I can actually get some sleep now. Those 5:30am starts were killing me, being a west coast gamer, and I’m sure it wasn’t fun running them that early either.
It’s going to be nice to have that extra time to hang out and visit with some of you guys I only get to see in person once a year.

My Events so far:
• Championship
• Gladiator
• Boarding Action

I have no idea at this time what Armies I will be playing. If I don’t make it into the finals I will most likely try to have my NEW Death Korps of Krieg Army ready for the Gladiator. SO MUCH TO DO! Why do I have to like horde Armies so much?

As of right now, I’m not on a Team for the Team Event. I figured I would chill and enjoy the show for a couple days and go downtown one night maybe. If anyone wants to hang out and maybe even get a casual game in during that time PM me.

ADEPTICON!!!!!!

The AdeptiCon 2013 Allowable Imperial Armour and Apocalypse Units rules have been posted.

I like that the characters are legal from the Badab series. Are they legit as counts-as like most space marine stuff or does the army have to be painted to match the character's chapter?

Sevrin Loth here we all come!

Lookin' more and more forward to AdeptiCon, as usual!

But you gotta play Space Marines to use him....

I'm in the same boat Mike. I can't wait! But I'll be darned if releasing the DA book in January isn't going to make me have to think super hard about what I'm bringing.....

Gosh you mean one of four people would have to take like a pair of thunderfires and a combat stick and some super 2+ cover (ty tfire) scoring snipers?! Not that I'm doing it, just that I expect to see a lot of 2++ iron arm warp speed Loths out there.

I also think there's a veritable army of people waiting for January to see what color their marine models will be.

I can't take the Rapier in the 40k Friendly? Good thing I haven't bought them yet.

 Happygrunt wrote:
I can't take the Rapier in the 40k Friendly? Good thing I haven't bought them yet.

Sorry, that's an entry mistake. The Rapier should be allowed in all 3 events.

If you spot any other fairly obvious errors like that, make sure to point them out!

Thanks.

 Hulksmash wrote:
I like that the characters are legal from the Badab series. Are they legit as counts-as like most space marine stuff or does the army have to be painted to match the character's chapter?

@Hulksmash - Just as any other special character available for the Space Marine Codex in conjunction with the 2013 AdeptiCon Model Policy. So legit counts-as, but our expectation would be individuals wishing to field these models would put forth the hobby effort to make them clear to their opponent. In other words don't take a stock special character model that has existing rules and call him Malakim Phoros for example.

- Hank

MVBrandt wrote:
Gosh you mean one of four people would have to take like a pair of thunderfires and a combat stick and some super 2+ cover (ty tfire) scoring snipers?! Not that I'm doing it, just that I expect to see a lot of 2++ iron arm warp speed Loths out there.

I also think there's a veritable army of people waiting for January to see what color their marine models will be.

And by not that you're doing it you mean "I'm totally doing it"

Sevrin Loth, ruining it for everyone!

 yakface wrote:

 Happygrunt wrote:
I can't take the Rapier in the 40k Friendly? Good thing I haven't bought them yet.

Sorry, that's an entry mistake. The Rapier should be allowed in all 3 events.

If you spot any other fairly obvious errors like that, make sure to point them out!

Thanks.

Thanks Yak, I kept trying to wrack my brain all day to try and figure out why the Rapier was banned but the Avenger was perfectly legal. Glad to see it was an easily correctable mistake.

Is there someplace we can see the rules for some of those FW units without having to buy their books?

I had not realized that there would be FW models in the Friendly, and am not looking forward to being surprised at game time with rules I have never seen before.

Ok so this is just a little question I've got, and I apologize if this was answered elsewhere and I didn't see it, but on the first page of the allowable forgeworld units PDF, it mentions "Chimera alternate turret weapons" (turret autocannon, etc)

Are entries like this, that affect a regular unit in our codex by giving it extra gear or weapons, limited to only one per list as well? So for example, if I took 4 chimeras, only 1 could have an autocannon turret as an upgrade?

@nolzur –

I had not realized that there would be FW models in the Friendly, and am not looking forward to being surprised at game time with rules I have never seen before.

Forgeworld models were allowed in the Friendly 2012 and for 2013 are allowed with the standard AdeptiCon restriction. (due to the scarce nature of these units, each unit is considered unique (0-1) and may only be taken once)

For an overall summary a good place to start would be here: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/v/vehicle6thupdates.pdf

Imperial Armor Aeronautica and Imperial Armor 1: 2nd Edition are the latest books and cover off on the vast majority of units. So if you can source someone that has the books those are the most current.

If you have specific unit question an internet search will typically pull up enough information to be “informed” on a particular unit just make sure the information is current. Additionally, players are responsible to have a copy of the rules for the units they are using, these should be made available to you.

All that said, I think I best be clear on the spirit of the Friendly. This is not a standard format tournament and the primary focus is not about individual performance or win / loss records. This is first and foremost about the “event”, “participation” and enjoyment of your opponent and all involved. Army lists should be built with the primary objective of being fun and an enjoyable. As such it is an opportunity to field units and lists that normally would not be considered optimized as whether you win or lose does not matter.

The nature of the event is also full of surprises. From bidding wars for deathstrike missile strikes and off board artillery bombardments, to HQ and unit bounties, valiant last stands, suicide missions plus whatever else our warped and twisted minds can fathom. Whether you know the rules on a particular Forgeworld unit or not will likely be your least concerns. : )

If you or anyone else has questions about the event please contact me as it is important for all players to understand the spirit and intent of this event as it directly effects the enjoyment for all players.



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@MrMoustaffa -

Good question - As it currently is constructed you are correct. I have put this out for discussion as I am not sure that was the intention or if we want to draw a distinction in those cases. On the next update we will add a clarification one way or the other.

Thanks - Hank

Muwhe, last year I REALLY appreciated our opponents having a printed out sheet of the rules they could hand us for their FW unit, in both team tourney games that I faced one.

Makes it way easier for them to show the rules to an unfamiliar opponent than having to pull out the huge hardback.

So, I VERY much hope you keep the requirement (I believe it was such) to have a sheet with the rules printed out to share with their opponent. It was great

Only downside was I would've liked to keep the sheet for reference during the game. The first guys needed it back, so I couldn't consult it. They were great chaps though

Sorry if I may interfere, but since our meta uses similar combat patrol rules...how do you handle Necron HQs? Are there any modifications (e.g. -1W for any Overlord) or are you simply not allowed to take any HQ as a Necron player?

Thanks in advance!

/e: On another issue: are you not allowed to take Annihilation Barges due to QS increasing their AV to 13 or does QS simply increase their AV to 12 instead of 13? Currently, I assume the latter...

No Forgeworld allowed in the Championship makes me sad :(. Flyers are going to run rampant.

 Sigvatr wrote:
On another issue: are you not allowed to take Annihilation Barges due to QS increasing their AV to 13 or does QS simply increase their AV to 12 instead of 13? Currently, I assume the latter...

Probably the latter, and holy crap, Annihilation Barges in 400 pts games, ouch.

 nolzur wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
On another issue: are you not allowed to take Annihilation Barges due to QS increasing their AV to 13 or does QS simply increase their AV to 12 instead of 13? Currently, I assume the latter...

Probably the latter, and holy crap, Annihilation Barges in 400 pts games, ouch.

We played it that way in the last combat patrol tournament and it did not seem to fair as most people do not expect a lot of vehicles, mainly transporters. At a huge tournament like Adepticon, though, people might be more experienced and know what they'll likely face.

AV 12 in a 400 point game with the killing power of Annihilation Barges is pretty terrifying. Less than half the cost of your army, and can handily destroy most things you would see in any other CP list.

Definitely going to need some plasma/melta to take care of threats like that. Well, maybe some missile spam.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Sorry if I may interfere, but since our meta uses similar combat patrol rules...how do you handle Necron HQs? Are there any modifications (e.g. -1W for any Overlord) or are you simply not allowed to take any HQ as a Necron player? Thanks in advance!

/e: On another issue: are you not allowed to take Annihilation Barges due to QS increasing their AV to 13 or does QS simply increase their AV to 12 instead of 13? Currently, I assume the latter...

This is my understanding on how we handle these at the Combat Patrol events at AdeptiCon.

HQ units are not required for combat patrol so there is no exception here. Chaos was in a similar position in previous years.

As for the barge, any vehicle upgrade that increases the av value may do so to a max of 12 (it's the second to the last bullet point under army construction rules which can be found here: http://www.adepticon.org/13rules/2013cp.pdf )

Hope that helps ..

Do you know the answer to my question above, muwhe (will you still be requiring folks to have a printed out sheet of their FW units' rules to hand to their opponent)?

@Rtides - Sorry didn't see a question in your post above ... thought it was just commentary. : )

We require players that plan to bring Imperial Armor models to do the following:

1. They have to bring a copy of the most current rules.

2. They have to make those available to their opponents for reference.

We do not mandate how players must bring a "copy" of the rules. Just that they bring them and make them available to their opponents for reference.

Okay, thanks. And yeah, I guess there wasn't actually a "question" in my question sorry about that.

Also, I'm pretty bummed that I did not register for AdeptiCon this year because a group of friends planned to run the Tough Mudder the same weekend... then changed their minds! Hoping to come out again for the team tournament in the following year, though... that was by far my best warhammer tourney experience to date.

Darkwynn wrote:
No Forgeworld allowed in the Championship makes me sad :(. Flyers are going to run rampant.

Would be the first time in 6th edition they did if they won

Thank you for the quick reply. Reason why I was so curious is because that little FW turret upgrades note is the difference between every IG player showing up with autocannon chimeras or multilaser chimeras, and I'm sure many IG players would love to take the former

AdeptiCon 2013 News: 01.24.13

Three Months Until AdeptiCon 2013!
We've got just under three months until AdeptiCon 2013, and registration numbers for AdeptiCon 2013 are setting records! Many of our most popular events are sold out, but there are still events with tickets available to fill out your weekend. Head on over to the [url=http
://cart.adepticon.org]AdeptiCon 2013 web cart[/url] and see the full list of events for yourself.

Don't Miss Out On Your Chance to Win $1000!
Win up to $1000 playing wargames! Mantic will be running their first official US Kings of War tournament here at AdeptiCon 2013 – with a prize pot of an incredible $1500 in cold, hard cash! You only need 2 Mantic units to enter so you can pretty much use your existing fantasy army to game with – and because the hardback rulebook includes all the army lists you are just a couple of clicks away from entering.

The rulebook for Kings of War can be found online at the Mantic Games website. This time maybe your hobby can pay you!! Register for this event today!!

Jacques of Martinique: AdeptiCon 2013 Fantasy Model
Decked in the Crusader's armor, Jacques of Martinique leads the forces of the Knights Bubonic into battle! As Grand Marshal of the Order, Jacques commands respect by mammals across the world of Brushfire, but sheer disdain and ire from the reptiles of Scyzantium. His gilded shield bears the angelic rat deity Tengri and the Mouse warrior rests assured that his faith will protect him.

Jacques is both an official Brushfire model, and the exclusive AdeptiCon Fantasy miniature. Available to the first 2000 preregistered attendees with an AdeptiCon 2013 Weekend Badge, this solo miniature works for any Brushfire faction and includes his stat card!

Brushfire is a skirmish level miniature game featuring a historical parody setting. Send Napoleonic badgers into battle against British Bulldogs! Check out the game at the On The Lamb Games booth or try a demo in the demo hall. Quick Start Rules and more information can be found here.


Sculpted by Mike Evans

AdeptiCon 2013 Event Rules Will Be Final on Feb. 1st
Rules for all tournaments at AdeptiCon 2013 will be finalized on February 1st, 2013. After that date, no fundamental changes will be made. Make sure to check out the event rules at www.adepticon.org after February 1st for all the latest rules and rulings!

Now Accepting Questions for the 40K Tournament FAQ
We are now accepting Warhammer 40K-related questions for the FAQ document. The purpose of this FAQ is to give players advance knowledge of how tournament judges will be ruling the myriad of tricky situations that might arise in games of Warhammer 40K at AdeptiCon 2013. Please remember that miniature gaming is meant to be fun. FAQs are not a replacement for common sense and good sportsmanship. Players are always expected to calmly attempt to resolve differences in opinion before consulting with a tournament judge.

Only use this form for questions related to game mechanics and rulebook/codex clarifications. For event-specific questions, please use the contact form.

New Seminars Added

Building Gaming Scenery with marcineczek0
Instructor: marcineczek0
$20.00
Sunday 9:00AM - 11:00AM
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Join marcineczek0 - a professional hobbyist with over a decade of experience making custom, handmade terrain and scenery for tabletop wargames.
During this hands on class you will learn techniques for terrain-making and build either a sci-fi or fantasy building to take home with you (28mm scale).






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Upcoming AdeptiCon 2013 Primer Events

Games Plus (Mt. Prospect, IL)
February 9th, 2013
Infinity Tournament Primer*

Board Room (Saginaw, MI)
February 9th, 2013
Warhammer Fantasy Team Tournament Primer*

Game Room (Toledo, OH)
February 9th, 2013
Warhammer 40K Championships Primer*

Game Room (Toledo, OH)
February 10th, 2013
Warhammer 40K Team Tournament Primer*

Rockhead's Games & Comics (Kenosha, WI)
February 23rd, 2013
]Warhammer 40K Combat Patrol Primer

Game Room (Toledo, OH)
February 23rd-24th, 2013
Warhammer Fantasy Championships Primer*

Indy Open 2013 (Indianapolis, IN)
March 2nd - 3rd, 2013
Warhammer 40K Championships Primer*

Gamers Sanctuary (Flint, MI)
March 9th, 2013
WFB Championships Primer*

Battle Bunker (Downer's Grove, IL)
March 10th, 2013
Warhammer 40K Warzone Primer*

Gamers Sanctuary (Flint, MI)
March 23rd, 2013
W40K Championships Primer*

Gamers Sanctuary (Flint, MI)
March 30th, 2013
Warmachine/Hordes Hardcore Primer*

Gamers Sanctuary (Flint, MI)
April 6th, 2013
W40K Team Tournament Primer*

* Not Directly Affiliated with AdeptiCon

AdeptiCon 2013 Army Charity Raffle

The third annual AdeptiCon Army Charity Raffle will support the Wounded Warrior Project. 100% of the proceeds from the raffle will be donated to help honor and empower these brave veterans and service members.

This beautiful World Eaters army was masterfully painted by Brandon Palmer of GMM Studios. The models were generously provided by Chaosmailorder.com, with Dragon Forge Design kindly donating all the bases and AdeptiCon adding the essential Forge World coolness - including Angron, a Chaos Decimator, Khorne Berzerker and Terminator conversion kits, a Contemptor Dreadnought and more! And that is not all - the winner and a runner-up will also receive complete Badger Airbrush setups!

You can purchase raffle tickets in advance (available for pickup along with your Weekend Badge starting Wednesday, April 17th at 7:00 pm) or onsite at the AdeptiCon registration desk for $1.00 each. You will receive a number of bonus tickets based on the total number of tickets you purchase. This year’s prize? 2000 points of World Eaters! You can find out more information about this charity raffle in the AdeptiCon 2013 Webcart

The drawing will be held at 4:30 PM on Sunday, April 21st, 2013 in the Westin Grand Ballroom just prior to the start of the Sunday Warhammer 40K Team Tournament awards. Your ticket must be present to win (although you do not).



To see this army in its full glory, head on over to the AdeptiCon Photo Gallery

Nice, I already got some tickets from the VIG bag but I'll probably be throwing more in. It's a pretty army and a good cause.

Awesome! I will get some tickets.

Beast-Captain Torgo: AdeptiCon 2013 Sci-fi Model

Torgo is one of a line of genetic experiments known as Broolians, the product of an insane experiment by the mad geneticists of the planet Broolia. The so-called Broolian Beastmen first saw service as mercenaries in the service of several stellar empires and have now fought in countless warzones across the Orion-Cygnus Spur.

Beast-Captain Torgo insists on taking the same risks as his beast-brothers, and so is ever to be found at the forefront of the battle. He wields the same flame thrower he as carried since his earliest days of service, unwilling to take up a weapon others might think more suitable to the commander a successful and feared mercenary force. In battle, Torgo is as ferocious and savage as all his kin, eschewing subtlety as soon as the bullets start flying and the charge is called. Few can stand up to such a charge, for the Broolians of Beast-Captain Torgo fight not for wealth, but for the sheer, savage joy that was seeded in their bestial hearts by the insane geneticists of the planet Broolia.

Direct from Victoria Miniatures, Beast-Captain Torgo will be found lurking the swag bags of the first 2000 preregistered attendees with an AdeptiCon 2013 Weekend Badge! Bring a leash!


Sculpted by Victoria Lamb :: Character Background by Andy Hoare
Click to enlarge photos.

Saw that on FB, love it, want it!!!!

Is there a way to check if you were one of the first 2000 registered? I had confirmation that I got a full swag bag but I don't want to get excited over models I wont get.

On another note, I love that beatsman model. He will be going straight into my PCS flamer squad.

Brool!

Love him. I already have a squad of beastmen who have been re-based as cultists and given pistols from the old 2nd ed era assault sprue; looks like they may be getting a flamer!

 Happygrunt wrote:
Is there a way to check if you were one of the first 2000 registered? I had confirmation that I got a full swag bag but I don't want to get excited over models I wont get.

On another note, I love that beatsman model. He will be going straight into my PCS flamer squad.

If by some chance you don't get it they usually sell them at the con and several months after on http://www.gorgon-studios.com/

This will only be available at AdeptiCon, as it is provided by Victoria Miniatures it will not be available through Gorgon.

muwhe wrote:
This will only be available at AdeptiCon, as it is provided by Victoria Miniatures it will not be available through Gorgon.

Then I'll take five hank .

Awesome...looking forward to that one. Love the Manos reference.

Out of curiosity, how popular are the LOTR events?

The LotR events have always had a dedicated following. the 2013 event are close to selling out. 4 out of 20 tickets left for the LotR Championships. 4 out of 16 left for the March to Mount Doom event. The LotR Team Tournament is sold out (12 teams/24 players).


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Warhammer 40K Championships Primer Missions

Here are the Warhammer 40K Championships Primer Missions. The first page details the typical Order of Battle that most W40K6e games follow - however, play particular attention to the terrain rules as they are unique to AdeptiCon and our terrain sets.

This Order sheet will be included in all major Warhammer 40K events, with only slight modifications (e.g., references to Coalition instead of player in the Team Tournament packet, no references for Fortifications in the Combat Patrol packet...).

Warhammer 40K Team Tournament Primers will be released shortly.


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AdeptiCon 2013 T-Shirt

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 ExNoctemNacimur wrote:
Out of curiosity, how popular are the LOTR events?

Well in my opinion, as popular as LOTR can be considering it is treated as the red-headed step child of GW core games. (And I'm talking about GW's treatment itself)

The event draws a good crowd of local players (Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan) with the occasional player from further afield. But the event is nowhere as big as 40k or Fantasy, which IMHO, isn't a bad thing really. We have 12 teams for our Friday event and 16 players for each of the other events (Thursday night and Saturday day). If you are looking for a break from the other systems and something a bit quiter and low key than LOTR events at Adepticon are perfect. They are usually about an 8 hour event so it leaves you time for evening activities (except the Thursday night event which is about 5 hours) and are one day so you can easily fit them in around other events. We have often had players who play the 40k team on Saturday (in the past) and would do LotR the other day as a change of pace. Plus, the group we usually attract are fantastic players and people always have a fun time at the event.

If I can answer any questions for you or anyone else interested in trying out LOTR/The Hobbit at Adepticon (or just trying it in your local club) please send me a PM.

Thanks,

Jamie

I have a question Jamie do you realize how sexy you are in your guns of April shirt.

Warhammer 40K Team Tournament Primer Missions

Here are the Warhammer 40K Team Tournament Primer Missions. The first page details the typical Order of Battle that most W40K6e games follow - however, play particular attention to the terrain rules as they are unique to AdeptiCon and our terrain sets.

Remember: Each Coalition will receive two Twists of Fate per game. This ability may be used to re-roll any of the following rolls regardless of the original result: Warlord Traits, Mysterious Terrain, Mysterious Objectives, Outflank or Reserves. Standard re-roll rules apply (pg. 5) – second result counts and no single dice can be re-rolled more than once. Each unused Twist of Fate scores your Coalition 1 point. Certain missions may present alternative uses for Twists of Fate in the Mission Special Rules section.

Sweet. Sitting at #1 on the wait list for the TT so I'm pretty pumped to start trying out these missions.

Any idea when the initial FAQ draft will be out?

 morgendonner wrote:
Sweet. Sitting at #1 on the wait list for the TT so I'm pretty pumped to start trying out these missions.

Any idea when the initial FAQ draft will be out?

Possibly tomorrow. Otherwise by Monday for sure.

I currently have a Team wavering, so there might be an opening soon.

Black Library Returns (Revised Info)

Black Library will once again be part of the AdeptiCon experience, bringing with them three notable authors: C.L. Werner, Andy Smillie and Mike Lee!

C.L. Werner joins us from Arizona, and has been responsible for such characters as the infamous bounty hunter Brunner, the cunning sorcerer Thyssen Krotzigk, the ruthless witch hunter Mathias Thulmann, and skaven fifth columnist Skrim Gnaw-tail.

Andy Smillie hails from the northern reaches of Glasgow, by way of Nottingham where he works in marketing by day and transforms into a literary superhero by night. His writing credits include a veritable swathe of articles for various sci-fi, fantasy and hobby magazines. His debut work of fiction, Mountain Eater, was released in 2011 in the digital publication Hammer & Bolter.

Mike Lee was the principal creator and developer for White Wolf Game Studio’s Demon: The Fallen. Over the last eight years he has contributed to almost two dozen role-playing games and supplements. Not only will Mike be at AdeptiCon, but Black Library will also be selling his limited hardback novella, Traitor’s Gorge – making AdeptiCon the first American event where this book will be available and the first event anywhere where you can get it signed by the author! Traitor’s Gorge is a Space Marine Battles story, complete with evocative art, color campaign maps and beautiful character portraits. Numbered and limited 1000 copies, this is sure to be a highly sought-after item! For more information on Traitor's Gorge, check out the Black Library website.

More Torgo For You!
Due to popular demand - you can now purchase an additional Beast-Captain Torgo or two!

This is a pre-order for AdeptiCon 2013 attendees and will only be available for pickup at the convention. We will not ship this model to you! You will be able to pick up your miniature(s) at the AdeptiCon registration table starting Wednesday, April 17th at 7:00 pm or any of the following days beginning at 7:00 am.

Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit News!

Exciting times in the world of Middle-earth! As Peter Jackson takes viewers there and back again, AdeptiCon prepares to do battle from the Westfarthing of the Shire all the way to Mordor! To celebrate the continued success of these events, every registered attendee participating in a Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit tournament will receive a convention exclusive "Halfling Farmer" model. This stout little fella was sculpted by Dave Fredericks of Majestic Bear Miniatures and has been sponsored by Bilbo's Birthday Bash

Tickets are going fast, but there is still plenty of time to sign up for one of these fantastic events and secure your exclusive model! More information about each event can be found below:

Lord of the Rings: March to Mount Doom Madness
Lord of the Rings Team Tournament
Lord of the Rings Championships
The Hobbit: An Unexpected Demo

Anyone looking to share a room at the westin?, cant afford to pay for an entire room by myself. Shoot me a pm if your interested.

Forge World Pre-ordering Information

Forge World is returning to AdeptiCon 2013 will be bringing with them a huge selection of books, resin kits, modelling products and hopefully a few unseen new releases as well!

They are currently accepting reservation orders for AdeptiCon. This is the best way to guarantee that they will have exactly what you want waiting for you at the show!

You can place a reservation order either by telephoning the Forge World Customer Service team at 011 44 115 900 4995 or by sending them an e-mail (forgeworld@gwplc.com) with the subject: 'AdeptiCon 2013 Reservation'. Make sure to include your name, a list of the items you'd like to order and your e-mail address by Thursday, March 28th!

In the week prior to the event, Forge World will send you a confirmation e-mail containing your order number, details of any items that are unavailable and a total cost in US$ (less local sales tax) that will be payable at the event. Reserved items will be available for pickup beginning Friday morning at 9AM in the Vendor Hall.


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AdeptiCon 2013 Demo Events

Looking to try out some new games? Make sure to check out the plethora of demo games happening all weekend long in the Vendor Hall and outside the Junior Ballroom. Brushfire, Dark Age, Deep Wars, Dropzone Commander, Endless: Fantasy Tactics, Firestorm Armada, The Hobbit, Infinity, Malifaux, Puppet Wars, Relic Knights, Sedition Wars, Super Dungeon Explore, Warmachine/Hordes, Wings of Glory, Wraith of Kings, Wreck Age, X-Wing Miniatures, Zombicide and more will all be represented!

All demo events are free with an AdeptiCon Weekend Badge. Demos are on a first-come, first-served basis and might be limited based on table space, available miniatures and staff. More information about all the demos occurring at AdeptiCon 2013 can be found here.

AdeptiCon FAQ v1.0 is posted here:

This document includes the Games Workshop (Rulebook and Codex Specific ) and Forgeworld ( Imperial Armour and Apocalypse) questions. Our expectation is this document will be updated at least once more prior to AdeptiCon to account for the release of the Chaos Daemons codex, new questions and clarifications.

The Forge World deal is super awesome. If you do it again next year I will fly to Chicago with an empty suitcase.

Ok, I admit to confusion. It's regarding the Gladiator and allies/force org stuff.

Here are the two parts of the rules packet I'm confused about:

"Armies will consist of a base list of 2500 points or less using a standard Force Organization Chart with an optional secondary Force Organization Chart and additional Primary Detachment rules (Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, pg. 109).
o 1 Fortification per standard Force Organization Chart
o 1 Allied Detachment per standard Force Organization Chart (See Super Heavy or Gargantuan Creature Rules Below)

and

Only one Super Heavy or Gargantuan Creature may be taken per army. That unit MUST be of the same codex as the Primary Detachment and is allocated as the entire second optional standard Force Organizational Chart."

Now does that mean if I took say CSM and a Warhound Titan. Would I still be able to take two allied detachments or just one?

Hey Brad,

Your issue has been forwarded to the Gladiator team. We will have an answer for you soon.

Thanks,

Sounds good man. I appreciate it.

Warhammer Fantasy FAQ and Clarifications

The Daemons of Chaos have been unleashed and in their wake trails a number of lingering questions. The following mini-FAQ will be in effect for all Warhammer Fantasy Battles events at AdeptiCon 2013.

Warriors of Chaos: Demon Princes are considered Demons for the Lore of Light Attribute.

Demons of Chaos: Reign of Chaos applies only when rolled during the Demon player Magic Phase.

Demons of Chaos: Reign of Chaos rolls 5, 6, 8, & 9 - roll for each enemy unit (regardless) and only for friendly units with the named Mark.

Demons of Chaos: Kairos Fateweaver must have his 8 chosen spells declared at the beginning of the tournament and must use those spells in each game. These spells must be listed on the army roster.

All summoned models (VC Undead, Demon Princes, Spawn, & Demons) must be painted according to the AdeptiCon Model Policy in order to be used at AdeptiCon.

Last Minute Hobby Seminars Added

Jérémie Bonamant Teboul; French professional painter and sculptor for Figone, Rackham, Ilyad, Kraken... is one of the most famous and successful Golden Demon winners in the world with 3 Slayer Swords and 33 Golden Demon wins!

He has already run over 120 painting classes all over the world (USA, Europe, Asia...) and produced 2 of the most well known painting DVDs.

Wet Blending: Fast, Furious and Effective with Jérémie Bonamant Teboul [Thursday 7:30PM - 9:30PM]
For the first time at AdeptiCon, Jérémie will be offering instruction in his famous wet blending technique – a technique he pioneered within the miniature painting hobby. You can see an overview here.

This class will begin with a discussion of wet blending theory, reference, examples, and principles; followed by step by step practical instruction. Students will also receive a special miniature from the Figone range.

Freehand Secrets: Making the Difference for Contest Miniatures with Jérémie Bonamant Teboul [Thursday 10:00PM - 12:00AM]
For the first time at AdeptiCon, Jérémie will be offering instruction in how he paints freehand designs on his miniatures – a technique he pioneered within the miniature painting hobby, especially on his competition miniatures. You can see some samples here.

This class will cover different kinds of freehand - from tricks for beginners to secrets for masters - tattoos, arabesques, banners, canvas techniques. This class will begin with a discussion covering freehand theory, reference, examples, and principles; followed by step by step practical instruction. Students will also receive a special miniature from the Figone range.

Even More Last Minute Hobby Seminars Added

The Basics of Mold Making & Casting - Free!!!
Presented By: Smooth-On

Attendees will learn how to create a mold and cast an item in an easy-to-understand format that includes slides and hands-on demonstration of materials. This class will cover different mold and cast materials available along with casting effects using colors and fillers. As an added bonus, each participant will be able to take home their own mold and cast created during the seminar

Choosing, Using, Maintaining, and Troubleshooting Your Airbrush - Free!!!
Instructor: Ken Badger

This seminar will familiarize attendees with airbrush terminology and types, explain their differences, guide attendees regarding which type of airbrush is best for each application, present useful air source/air source accessory information, discuss media/paint types and preparations, present information on useful airbrush accessories, and provide simple airbrush cleaning, maintenance, and troubleshooting instruction.

Get It Painted Faster and Better with Les Bursley - $25.00
Instructor: Les Bursley

Golden Demon winner and commission painter Les Bursley of Awesome Paint Job teaches you how to paint your army quickly with an airbrush, without compromising the quality of your paint job. In this class you'll learn time saving techniques with an airbrush along with pigment and oil use to get it painted and on the tabletop. Additionally, lightning fast weathering techniques will be covered for those who like that battle worn look. In addition each participant will receive a set of the brand new Minitaire paints valued at $40, which is launching at AdeptiCon.

Several sessions of each seminar are now in the webcart!

Those are some very cool-looking seminars; I wish they were on Wednesday! We need more days of Adepticon!

Continental Breakfast & Tailgate Lunch Buffet Meal Deal

AdeptiCon has partnered with Harry Caray's to provide you a continental breakfast buffet and "tailgate" luncheon. This limited offer provides you with all the sustenance you need to get your AdeptiCon experience off on the right foot!

Ideal for attendees participating in the Warhammer 40K Championships and the early Warhammer Fantasy: It's How You Use It event, this $25 ticket will provide you access to BOTH meals during the scheduled times.

Meals will be served in the Harry Caray Ballroom. Tickets can be purchased from the AdeptiCon 2013 Webcart.

Continental Breakfast Buffet Details
Thursday, 8:00AM - 9:00AM
Seasonal Sliced Fruit Platter[*]Assorted Fruit Yogurts
Assorted Bagels with Whipped Cream Cheese
Assorted Muffins, Coffee Cakes and Croissants with Fruit Preserves, Whipped Butter and Honey
Fresh Orange Juice and Cranberry Juice
Freshly Brewed Coffee and Gourmet Hot Tea Selections
Scrambled Eggs
Applewood Smoked Bacon
O'Brien Potatoes

Tailgate Lunch Buffet Details
Thursday, 12:00PM - 1:30PM
Includes freshly brewed coffee and gourmet hot tea selections
Harry’s Chili with Chopped Onions, Cheddar Cheese, Sour Cream and Oyster Crackers
Holy Cow!® Potato Chips
Chopped Salad with Avocado, Scallions, Tomatoes, Gorgonzola and Sweet Herb Vinaigrette
Mini Chicago Style Hot Dogs with Tomatoes, Onions, Sport Peppers, Pickle Spears, Relish, Celery Salt and Mustard
Mini Italian Beef Sandwiches with Sautéed Sweet Peppers and Giardiniera
Mini Buffalo Chicken Sandwiches with Blue Cheese Dressing
Housemade Fudge Brownies and Assorted Cookies
Soft Drinks


Object Source Lighting (OSL) with Victoria Lamb Subject Model

From the Victoria Miniatures Facebook page:

Hi, I have just finished sculpting the mini which will be the subject for my OSL class at Adepticon. All the class participants will get one free, I will also have a limited number of extras for sale at the con. If popular I will make it available through the online store afterwards, possibly with an accompanying tutorial.
Cheers, V

I ordered one of the meal tickets, should make the GT a bit easier to manage, what with me not wandering around looking for food.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Ok, I admit to confusion. It's regarding the Gladiator and allies/force org stuff.

Here are the two parts of the rules packet I'm confused about:

"Armies will consist of a base list of 2500 points or less using a standard Force Organization Chart with an optional secondary Force Organization Chart and additional Primary Detachment rules (Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, pg. 109).
o 1 Fortification per standard Force Organization Chart
o 1 Allied Detachment per standard Force Organization Chart (See Super Heavy or Gargantuan Creature Rules Below)

and

Only one Super Heavy or Gargantuan Creature may be taken per army. That unit MUST be of the same codex as the Primary Detachment and is allocated as the entire second optional standard Force Organizational Chart."

Now does that mean if I took say CSM and a Warhound Titan. Would I still be able to take two allied detachments or just one?

You give up the entire second option. So no you do not get the 2nd allied detachment.

Sounds good. Probably should clear up the wording on the rules but I'm cool with it. Mostly didn't want to get blindsided by it

Preregistration Extended for 72 Hours!

Since several people missed the preregistration deadline last Friday, we are re-opening the web cart for 72 hours in order to give people one last chance to pick up tickets and Weekend Badges.

The cart will close permanently at 9:00AM on Thursday, April 4th. After that, the only way to get tickets will be onsite – no special exceptions will be made! This is your final chance! Don’t delay!

AdeptiCon 2013 Registration

Warhammer 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ v1.1

This document is for use at AdeptiCon 2013 and exists solely to serve as a transparent means of informing our attendees how our judges will rule in the case of certain rules disputes. Forewarned is forearmed!

It includes Games Workshop (rulebook and codex-specific), Forge World (Imperial Armour and Apocalypse) questions, new questions/clarifications and has been recently updated to include Codex: Chaos Daemons.

Questions not covered by an official FAQ document, that you wish answered for this specific event, may be submitted by using the AdeptiCon 2013 Warhammer 40K FAQ Submission Form.

AdeptiCon 2013 Warhammer 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ v1.1

 Matthias wrote:
Warhammer 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ v1.1

This document is for use at AdeptiCon 2013 and exists solely to serve as a transparent means of informing our attendees how our judges will rule in the case of certain rules disputes. Forewarned is forearmed!

It includes Games Workshop (rulebook and codex-specific), Forge World (Imperial Armour and Apocalypse) questions, new questions/clarifications and has been recently updated to include Codex: Chaos Daemons.

Questions not covered by an official FAQ document, that you wish answered for this specific event, may be submitted by using the AdeptiCon 2013 Warhammer 40K FAQ Submission Form.

AdeptiCon 2013 Warhammer 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ v1.1

What if we asked a question via that form, and it didn't get included in the FAQ? Unsure if asking again is the right call..

Target wrote:

What if we asked a question via that form, and it didn't get included in the FAQ? Unsure if asking again is the right call..

Well, not every question gets included in the FAQ simply because this FAQ is looking to be much more stringent than the INAT was in order to try to keep it as small as possible.

However, if you can remind me what the question is/was, I can give you further details as to why it wasn't included (either intentionally or unintentionally).

 yakface wrote:

Target wrote:

What if we asked a question via that form, and it didn't get included in the FAQ? Unsure if asking again is the right call..

Well, not every question gets included in the FAQ simply because this FAQ is looking to be much more stringent than the INAT was in order to try to keep it as small as possible.

However, if you can remind me what the question is/was, I can give you further details as to why it wasn't included (either intentionally or unintentionally).

Shooting you a pm, Matthias also shot me one and I responded, thanks for all the assisstance guys!

 yakface wrote:

Target wrote:

What if we asked a question via that form, and it didn't get included in the FAQ? Unsure if asking again is the right call..

Well, not every question gets included in the FAQ simply because this FAQ is looking to be much more stringent than the INAT was in order to try to keep it as small as possible.

However, if you can remind me what the question is/was, I can give you further details as to why it wasn't included (either intentionally or unintentionally).

Wait, Yakface, did you help write the adepticon FAQ?

 Happygrunt wrote:

Wait, Yakface, did you help write the adepticon FAQ?

Wow, Fiends got amazing.

When a unit makes a shooting attack at a vehicle that is completely out of the firing unit’s LoS cannot be affected by that shooting attack (unless the attack does not require LoS, of course).

What is this meant to say?

 Mannahnin wrote:
Wow, Fiends got amazing.

When a unit makes a shooting attack at a vehicle that is completely out of the firing unit’s LoS cannot be affected by that shooting attack (unless the attack does not require LoS, of course).

What is this meant to say?

That clarification is missing the word 'it', so it should be:

When a unit makes a shooting attack at a vehicle that is completely out of the firing unit’s LoS it cannot be affected by that shooting attack (unless the attack does not require LoS, of course).

So basically vehicles that are completely out of line of sight of the firing unit cannot be damaged by their shooting, unless a particular shooting attack doesn't require LOS (like a barrage weapon).

How does it make a shooting attack at a vehicle which is out of LOS, without a weapon which doesn't require LOS? Is this talking about (e.g.) placing a direct fire blast weapon so that the center is over a model in a unit you can see, but part of the blast covers a vehicle which is completely out of LOS?

 Mannahnin wrote:
How does it make a shooting attack at a vehicle which is out of LOS, without a weapon which doesn't require LOS? Is this talking about (e.g.) placing a direct fire blast weapon so that the center is over a model in a unit you can see, but part of the blast covers a vehicle which is completely out of LOS?

Yep, this clarification covers this situation, but it also covers vehicle squadrons (those vehicles in the unit which are out of LOS cannot be affected) and also strange situations like the Necron Death Ray, etc.

Basically the rules for shooting against a non-vehicle unit has kind of a 2 part restriction on LOS...you have to have overall LOS to the unit AND ALSO those models in the target unit that are completely out of LOS can't be casualties.

The vehicle rules are much, much more vague and the rules for vehicle squadrons even more so. However, the general voting consensus was that this was not some sort of secret easter egg that vehicles are supposed to be able to be hit when out of LOS more than non-vehicle units, so we just sort of clarified across the board that vehicles are treated essentially like models in non-vehicle units in that, if they are completely out of LOS from a firing unit then they aren't getting damaged by that shooting (unless the attacks ignore LOS, of course).

You guys ruled that fiends assaulting a unit that has a Initiative of 5 or less doesn't get to attack because they lower the initiative to zero?

spaguatyrine wrote:
You guys ruled that fiends assaulting a unit that has a Initiative of 5 or less doesn't get to attack because they lower the initiative to zero?

That is a really tough one. I think everybody hopes that GW comes out and issues an errata to clarify what Initiative 0 means in close combat before Adepticon because nobody was happy with the ruling, but every other alternative seems like kind of a big stretch.

The rules clearly allow characteristics to be lowered to 0, but then the CC section only specifies that there are I10-I1 steps. While the rulebook never says what happens with I0 in CC, based on what they do specify for WS0, for example, it seems to fall in line with that concept.

The other issue is that SOME abilities in the CD codex have a minimum included on them, but there are several different Initiative modifier abilities that don't say any such thing...so do we assume that GW made a mistake in ALL cases and that Initiative modifiers never can take a Initiative to below 0, despite the fact that most other characteristics can? Or do we step out on a limb and make up a rule allow for an Initiative 0 CC step, despite the fact that GW's basic tenant is that when a characteristic is reduced to 0 it means the model cannot do whatever it is the characteristic is supposed to do (in this case attack in combat)?

So yeah, we ruled that if a model gets its Initiative reduced to 0, it means they don't get to attack because they are I0 and there is no I0 step in CC.

But like I said, its a ruling nobody is really happy with and hopefully GW will issue some FAQs for April soon and shed some light on exactly what the hell they were hoping to go for with some of these rules.

However, yes, for the time being, Fiends are absolutely lethal.

yakface wrote:
However, if you can remind me what the question is/was, I can give you further details as to why it wasn't included (either intentionally or unintentionally).

Okay, I've got one...

How is it that a Bloodslaughter of Khorne and a Brass Scorpion of Khorne and a Plaguehulk of Nurgle are not considered Daemons of the relevant gods and are simply daemons? With the new Daemon codex, you can't even have unaligned daemon princes or soulgrinders anymore, yet these obviously aligned units are left hanging?

 Redbeard wrote:

yakface wrote:
However, if you can remind me what the question is/was, I can give you further details as to why it wasn't included (either intentionally or unintentionally).

Okay, I've got one...

How is it that a Bloodslaughter of Khorne and a Brass Scorpion of Khorne and a Plaguehulk of Nurgle are not considered Daemons of the relevant gods and are simply daemons? With the new Daemon codex, you can't even have unaligned daemon princes or soulgrinders anymore, yet these obviously aligned units are left hanging?

I wasn't involved in the FAQ process at all. IMHO, however, giving them "Daemon of X" is giving them extra rules that weren't paid for. The Daemons codex bundles a number of USRs into each "Daemon of X" rule, so, for example, giving "Daemon of Nurgle" to a Plaguehulk gives it Shrouding at no additional cost.

The FAQ looks to be trying to stick to RAW where it's possible, even where it is unlikely that GW will do so in any eventual FAQ (see, e.g., Fiends). Adding the "Daemons of X" rules to FW units would seem to deviate from that philosophy.

 Redbeard wrote:

Okay, I've got one...

How is it that a Bloodslaughter of Khorne and a Brass Scorpion of Khorne and a Plaguehulk of Nurgle are not considered Daemons of the relevant gods and are simply daemons? With the new Daemon codex, you can't even have unaligned daemon princes or soulgrinders anymore, yet these obviously aligned units are left hanging?

The goal here was ultimately to try to get things in a playable state for this year's Adepticon based on the rules that exist currently. Obviously FW will be updating these rules at some point to bring everything into line with the new Chaos Daemons and CSM books, but honestly we can't go completely overboard and just re-write the rules for these units because it would be kind of a pain for players to have to play half from the printed rules and half from a bunch of errata changes from the Adepticon FAQ.

Admittedly there are still a few places where that ended up being the case, but those were the units whose rules were really, really wonky.

So the dividing line really was if a unit was only available to be taken in a Daemon army, then obviously this is a Daemon unit and had to be made to roughly match how the Daemon army book works. That's why the Daemon Lords and the two Daemon Prince special characters (Uraka and Mamon) got the rules for being 'Daemons of X'...because they are undoubtably from the Daemon army and therefore need to be able to interact as such.

With the Plague Drones, Plague Hulk and Bloodslaughterers, these are all units that can be either taken in Daemon armies OR CSM armies. So there is always the question of which one of these books are they ultimately from. In the CSM book there are clearly Daemon Engines that aren't 'Daemons of X' in the form of the Defiler, Maulerfiend and Forgefiend.

So the decision was made to just go with the minimum amount of changes to make those units just work...and for the most part they do just work as written, and just incorporating the new generic 'Daemon' rule along with the standard Daemonic invulnerability to being shaken/stunned where needed.

The funny thing is, I was actually able to get a bit of a heads-up about where FW is likely to be heading with the rules for these units when they update them, and they likely will be 'Daemons of X', but they are also likely to get quite a few changes on top of that as well. So again, if we were going to go down that route of trying to change them to what FW is 'going to do' then we're talking about making major changes to the printed rules without any official basis for doing so.

So although it is not the optimal solution, when it comes to FW and the wacky way they have to update stuff after a codex hits, there are sometimes just going to be these strange little periods which just happens to fall this year during Adepticon.

AdeptiCon 2013 Dice Are In!

18mm custom-cast, white or black pearl dice that can also be used to scatter everything from ordinance blasts to cannonballs!



Not too late to place an order - the web cart is open through Thursday morning! Dice will be also be available onsite.

Silly question, but will the FW event model be available at Adepticon. The email was not particularly clear weather the model was only at the FW day or all events with FW present.

 Happygrunt wrote:
Silly question, but will the FW event model be available at Adepticon. The email was not particularly clear weather the model was only at the FW day or all events with FW present.

They were at Adepticon in previous years, but you might want to e-mail Forgeworld to check for sure.

Just got the latest update email, and watched the Greg/Brad video discussing deployment and pregame setup. Awesome to be able to get table assignments via text message. Bravo!

The video was a nice intro to the pre-game sequence and alternating deployment of terrain. It should be especially helpful to folks who haven't been practicing the new Adepticon style of terrain setup. However, though i have practiced it a bit, the video did prompt a couple of questions for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVMcXMeGTs

1. They stated that Fortifications are allowed to be placed anywhere on your half. As opposed to the primer packet, which required them to be at least 5" from the table edges and from any other Fortification.
2. They stated that terrain pieces just need to be 4" from any table edge, Fortification, or piece of terrain, as opposed to 5".

Are those the final instructions for the Championships, Gladiator, and/or 40k Team Tournament?

Tangential note: Did I misunderstand, or Brad brain cramp, generating one rulebook power for his Space Marine Librarian and thinking he was allowed to keep his second Codex power? Or did he actually have two psykers, the first of which just had one power?

Very nice innovation with text alerts for table assignments.

How is the wifi and cell reception at the hotel?

Cell reception was actually pretty good last year, no issues I noticed.

Signed up for the alerts as I hate the crunch at the sheets.

Email/text notifications for table assignments?

Finally, the future is here!

Its both about time and a wonderful thing to see (as I know its an additional technical hurdle to get over and more work to organize as well).

However, I have no doubt it will greatly improve things overall.

 Mannahnin wrote:
The video was a nice intro to the pre-game sequence and alternating deployment of terrain. It should be especially helpful to folks who haven't been practicing the new Adepticon style of terrain setup. However, though i have practiced it a bit, the video did prompt a couple of questions for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVMcXMeGTs

1. They stated that Fortifications are allowed to be placed anywhere on your half. As opposed to the primer packet, which required them to be at least 5" from the table edges and from any other Fortification.
2. They stated that terrain pieces just need to be 4" from any table edge, Fortification, or piece of terrain, as opposed to 5".

Are those the final instructions for the Championships, Gladiator, and/or 40k Team Tournament?

Tangential note: Did I misunderstand, or Brad brain cramp, generating one rulebook power for his Space Marine Librarian and thinking he was allowed to keep his second Codex power? Or did he actually have two psykers, the first of which just had one power?

Wow. I almost don't need to go now - I've gotten my quota of Brad/Sparky banter for the year.

It is FANTASTIC to have email or text message options for table assignments.

 Mannahnin wrote:
The video was a nice intro to the pre-game sequence and alternating deployment of terrain. It should be especially helpful to folks who haven't been practicing the new Adepticon style of terrain setup. However, though i have practiced it a bit, the video did prompt a couple of questions for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahVMcXMeGTs

1. They stated that Fortifications are allowed to be placed anywhere on your half. As opposed to the primer packet, which required them to be at least 5" from the table edges and from any other Fortification.
2. They stated that terrain pieces just need to be 4" from any table edge, Fortification, or piece of terrain, as opposed to 5".

Are those the final instructions for the Championships, Gladiator, and/or 40k Team Tournament?

Take a look at any of the rules documents or Primer packets again (make sure to refresh in case you have a cached copy). The Orders Sheet has been updated. After several terrain placement tests, we decided to reduce the distance between terrain elements to 4" in order to give people a little more wiggle room. Along the same lines, and to bring things in line with the rulebook, we also removed the restriction on fortifications and the board edge.

I'll send out an addendum to yesterday's e-mail just so everyone is aware.

Hmmm it will be interesting to see how the terrain placement goes. I can see some people taking forever setting it up actually. I can also see that if player one in the video had forced each piece to max forward position then there would have been know way to place the final pice while adhereing to the 4 inch rule where his aegis was unless they "settle" where it can be placed. I am sure in most cases it will be a none issue but I will be interested in hearing the few cases where a beardy guy with a shooty army makes him place the final piece behind that aegis causing severe congestion lol

The text alerts is an awesome feature, I definitely hope it works well and that more tournaments start using this.

Working on my team army down to the wire.. but can't wait for next week.

We continue to test the system throughout the weekend. Seeing as my phone has been one of the test numbers, I'm glad that I have unlimited texting. So far 81 Championships players and 48 teams have signed up. Keep em coming so we can pre-populate the software.

Warhammer 40K FAQ and Orders Sheet Update

With AdeptiCon less than a week away, and no Games Workshop Codex: Chaos Deamons FAQ in sight, we want to get a few more questions answered and clarifications posted. Version 1.2 of the AdeptiCon 2013 40K Rules Addendum and FAQ has been posted. New rulings since the last version appear in red. This is the final update to the FAQ prior to the convention.

After several rounds of terrain setup and playtesting, the Pre-deployment Orders Sheets for the various Warhammer 40K events have been amended to bring them further in line with W40K6e and to give players a little more wiggle room when setting up tables. The Pre-deployment Orders Sheet will be included in every event packet. the changes are as follows:

Fortifications: Starting with the player who chose table halves, players alternate placing any fortifications wholly within the owning player's table half and not within 4" of another fortification. (There was previously a required 5" distance from the board edge for fortifications)

No terrain piece can be placed within 4" of another terrain piece, fortification or the board edge. (This was previously 5")

And finally, the Second Founding Podcast rounded up Greg Sparks and Brad Chester to go over the basic pre-deployment orders as they will be played at AdeptiCon 2013. You can watch a video of the step-by-step process over on YouTube.

Adepticon giveth, Adepticon taketh away?

A Fiend of Slaanesh’s Soporific Musk cannot reduce a model’s Initiative Characteristic below Initiative 1. [pg. 57, C:CD]

There's a reversal. Pity if anyone had changed their armies as a result of the previous ruling, but it was awfully generous before.

This one, though....

While making Pile In moves, if both players’ moves in a particular Initiative step are insufficient to bring any combatants back together, but Pile In moves in subsequent Initiative steps that turn would be sufficient to do so, the assault continues normally. [pg. 23, W40KRB]

I'm curious what motivated that. We don't need to dig into the rules discussion here (there's an existing thread for that), but the poll that spawned that particular discussion thread shows, if not consensus, at least a very definite trend towards the opposite viewpoint.

 Janthkin wrote:
Adepticon giveth, Adepticon taketh away?

A Fiend of Slaanesh’s Soporific Musk cannot reduce a model’s Initiative Characteristic below Initiative 1. [pg. 57, C:CD]

There's a reversal. Pity if anyone had changed their armies as a result of the previous ruling, but it was awfully generous before.

Well, it was a contentious issue from the get-go. The straw that broke the camels back though was the realization that Blessings and Maledictions have a cap on lowering stats to 1. Given that the Aquiesence power does essentially the exact same thing as Soporific Musk, the idea of having two rules doing totally different things based on what easily could be a simple omission didn't sit right with a lot of those voting. There were still standing firm to the end that Soporific Musk should be able to lower Initiative to 0 and this means the model doesn't get to attack in combat (if it is attacking at its Initiative value), but it was now ultimately less votes than the reversal position.

This one, though....

While making Pile In moves, if both players’ moves in a particular Initiative step are insufficient to bring any combatants back together, but Pile In moves in subsequent Initiative steps that turn would be sufficient to do so, the assault continues normally. [pg. 23, W40KRB]

I'm curious what motivated that. We don't need to dig into the rules discussion here (there's an existing thread for that), but the poll that spawned that particular discussion thread shows, if not consensus, at least a very definite trend towards the opposite viewpoint.

I obviously made sure the poll results were well known. However, in this particular case I don't think there was any dissenting votes. As I've agrued in the rules thread, I firmly stand by the fact that the rules in this particular case can be interpreted either way. In addition, nobody seemed to think that including a single higher Initiative model in a combat should suddenly cause a bunch of warriors staring each other in the face not to fight each other, when if that model wasn't there they would fight.

Given that Init doesn't (in general) have a cap preventing it from going to zero, the other possible ruling on Fiends would have been that they can lower the enemy Init to zero, but the models then fight on Init 0, after 1. The assault rules do describe the attack sequence as running from 10 to 1, but that could be taken as a general case, and things that reduce to I0 an unusual exception. That would have allowed Fiends to act more like Assault Grenades rather than leaving Skull Cannons the only such ability in the codex.

Still, as long as we have a ruling I'm happy. I think this ruling is probably more likely to be GW's intent than was the "can't attack at all" ruling.

Fiends should still be able to hit before units in cover. And the way it's set they won't be able to now. And with less than a week till the event making this change is a little messed up in my opinion. I'm not playing daemons but if I was I'd be less than happy at the 100% flip. Somewhere in the middle (i.e. still allowing people to fight at Initiative 0) would have been far more acceptable given the shortened time frame of the ruling.

The other one is how everyone around here played it anyway so I'm not seeing an issue with that one. Hadn't heard it another way but now that I have I can see how that makes sense.

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In the case of the Fiends of Slaanesh soporific musk ability the FAQ ruling was one that the group wasn't totally comfortable with but lacking a clear path from Games Workshop or relevant related rule it was decided to take the presented wording at face value. Since that decision was made two significant factors influenced our opinion to revise the ruling:

1.) Weapons with the unwieldy rule changed the modified initiative from 0 to 1, in our minds gaining a significant bonus from what is intended to be a negative effect was evidence that something was not quite right with the original interpretation.

2.) Secondly, and more importantly maledictions state that they can never modify a stat below one or above ten. Given that Acquiescence is an identical effect from a different source that would have to follow the rules stated for maledictions the position for soporific musk became untenable.

Ultimately that left us with two choices so close to the event, leave a ruling that given the new knowledge was clearly wrong or publish a correction. In this case we choose to publish a correction. We recognize that our first interpretation was off the mark and felt more comfortable addressing it prior to the convention. We understand this may cause some frustration for those players who were heavily invested in this particular ruling. Short of offering it as an excuse, the relative rapid fire release of codices and the first year of a new edition has proven challenging.

VIG News
Extra, extra - read all about it. AdeptiCon VIGs not only have the usual perks, but also receive some bonus material from our gracious sponsors. These include:

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(1) Tectonic Craft Studios 15% off booth discount coupon
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Charity Items
The AdeptiCon charity raffle has raised thousands of dollars in the past two years and once again looks to break records with all 2013 funds going to Wounded Warrior Project. Raffle prizes include.

* Charity Raffle Army Painted by GMM Studios & Supplied by Chaosmailorder.com, Dragon Forge Design and AdeptiCon.
* Badger Air-Brush Kit with compressor, air hose & brush, and a full set of Minitaire paints w/ clear coats and retarder.
* Table War MKII Full-size Display Tower case
* Table War MKI Half-size Display Tower case
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* KR Multicase Aluminium case for your Star Wars collection
* Smooth-On Starter Kits
* Malifaux Grab Bags
* and more....

You can buy tickets at the AdeptiCon registration desk. The drawing will be held on Sunday, April 21, 2013 in the Westin Grand Ballroom during the 40K Team Tournament Awards ceremony. So come join the fun and support for a great cause.

Free Stuff for the Masses
AdeptiCon has worked hard to with our sponsors to have a variety of give-aways for each attendee. With other 1,700 items a lot of AdeptiCon attendees will have an opportunity to pick-up one cool and unique item from the following:

* Mantic Half Pitch and Dreadball Team
* MERCS CCC Assault Leader
* Ninja Division - Robotech Miniature
* Outlaw Miniatures Wild West Exodus Model
* Table War Unit Tray and Diorama Washer

Attendees will receive a card to pick-up their free item at each company' booth in the vendor hall throughout the weekend.


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Torgo, Jacques and Paint: Together at Last!

Sculpted by Victoria Lamb : Painted by Mathieu Fontaine (Studio Akaranseth)


Sculpted by Mike Evans : Painted by Mathieu Fontaine (Studio Akaranseth)

Click photos for a larger version.

Can't wait to pick up my VIG bag. Was totally worth it last year, not even counting the amount of time it saved during registration

Anyone flying into Midway tomorrow afternoon who's interested in sharing a shuttle, shoot me a PM with your cell #. I'll be checking my messages again in the morning. Me and a friend are flying Southwest landing ~2pm, and will be grabbing a shuttle around 2:30 or so. It's substantially cheaper than a taxi, and the more people we have, the cheaper it gets (usually around $20 or so per person depending on how many people, including tip & tolls).

See everyone there!

Im getting into midway at 440 so as mannahnin said anyone want to share a ride send me a pm.

Hey, I am flying in tomorrow from Seattle. Hope to meet tons of people from Dakkadakka. This will be my first (and probably only) year going, so I want to see everyone. I am landing at like 1.AM, so I doubt I will see anyone that night (high school comes first). Hopefully the line won't be too long on Thursday.

Is there an Adepticon meet-up thread posted here or do we have to hunt each other the old fashioned way?

I don't think we did a proper meetup thread this year. I'll be wearing a green shirt tomorrow whose front is covered with silhouettes of GW models. And for most of the rest of the weekend will be wearing black shirts with the name of my team- Cold Steel Mercs. There should be a few of us, but I I'm the only one with a long ponytail. Feel free to say hi!

I'm headed to the airport shortly. Can't wait!

Ouch! My training for tomorrow got canceled but as such there is no way I can get cleared and too Adepticon before a 0900 Champs SP time. Never seen a GT start on a Thursday Morning. :( Came close to making the event. Best of luck to all involved.

Warning, right now the midway airport is closed due to rain, so check your flight status if you're flying in tonight.

Our plane is in a holding pattern now...

 yakface wrote:

Warning, right now the midway airport is closed due to rain, so check your flight status if you're flying in tonight.

Our plane is in a holding pattern now...

Wait a tick... then you shouldn't be on that phone.

Onboard wifi, baby.


And now sitting in Indiana waiting for an update.

Why don't you have a private jet? Time to raise DCM prices and sell out to GW!

Trying to get out of Washington dc still, on my fourth flight attempt and second airline, been at the airport since noon, most recent chance is leaving at 930 pm, weeeeee

Yeah, we deboarded. I have a feeling I won't be getting out of here tonight.

I blame Adepticon for this weather.

The line for this year is incredible.

I am worried I wont be able to get through the "normal guest" line tomorrow. Yikes, that line is long.

I've searched the adepticon site and the thread... Is there going to be live game coverage on Ustream this year? If so what's the channel? I would love to watch!

Concerning the revised fiends ruling. Were you aware of the following errata when you made your decision?

"Page 22 - Fight sub-phase, initiative steps. Change the bolded text to read 'Work your way through the Initiative values of the models in the combat, starting with the highest and ending with the lowest.'"

Given that this specifically replaces the segment of the rules mentioning I10-I1 (unless I'm missing something), it seems to me that the obvious rules interpretation would be that the Fiends are able to reduce a model's initiative to 0 (as the rules say that initiative can be reduced to 0, and only maledictions, which the Fiends' special rule is not, have a stated cap of 1). The unit going at 0 initiative would then go after anything charging through cover, but they would still be allowed to attack. The I1 buff from unwieldy is certainly odd, but a relatively obscure rules confluence, and it's more likely to be deserving of an FAQ than the Fiends' ability. It seems to me that the RAW is clear for the way that Fiends work, given the rulebook FAQ, and it is not the decision that the Adepticon team settled on. Given the short timing of your switch, especially, I anticipate quite a few very sad Daemons players in the next couple of days.

What is everyone's prediction for top 3 armies in the 40k champs?

Im thinking:
Necron + ally
GK + ally
Necron + ally

I definately think GK/somebody, and some sort of IG will be in top 3 Ill bet necrons in some form as well.

 Tomb King wrote:
What is everyone's prediction for top 3 armies in the 40k champs?

Im thinking:
Necron + ally
GK + ally
Necron + ally

I'm thinking about what you are, though I wouldn't be surprised if GKs don't make it/don't make it as a primary detachment. I'd love to see Daemons or CSM make it to the top somehow, though.

Any advice for someone without a ticket trying to get a spot into the 40k singles event?

Looks like it has always had open spots in years past.. And I'm on the wait list at least.

No badge, no event ticket, but I'm 5 min away, army in tow, lists printed, ready and willing.

Thanks in advance.


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Also, what time zone is it here? My phone says 936, but my tablet says 1036.

Should be central time I think.

 hippesthippo wrote:
Any advice for someone without a ticket trying to get a spot into the 40k singles event?

Looks like it has always had open spots in years past.. And I'm on the wait list at least.

No badge, no event ticket, but I'm 5 min away, army in tow, lists printed, ready and willing.

Thanks in advance.


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Also, what time zone is it here? My phone says 936, but my tablet says 1036.

Judging by all the issues with flights I would not be surprised to see a few slots open. Last year I showed up from kansas city with no spot. I was like number 10 or so on the wait list and made it into the event. Just make sure you check in with them and let them know your on the wait list. Last year they tried to get accountability of everyone in the morning and gave last calls if those people didnt report they had wait list people standing by to fill in. Hope that helps and wish you the best on making it in.

Had I gone I was going to be a wait list participant again this year and was 17th on the list. I am confident I would of made it into the event again had I been able to go.

 Tomb King wrote:

 hippesthippo wrote:
Any advice for someone without a ticket trying to get a spot into the 40k singles event?

Looks like it has always had open spots in years past.. And I'm on the wait list at least.

No badge, no event ticket, but I'm 5 min away, army in tow, lists printed, ready and willing.

Thanks in advance.


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Also, what time zone is it here? My phone says 936, but my tablet says 1036.

Judging by all the issues with flights I would not be surprised to see a few slots open. Last year I showed up from kansas city with no spot. I was like number 10 or so on the wait list and made it into the event. Just make sure you check in with them and let them know your on the wait list. Last year they tried to get accountability of everyone in the morning and gave last calls if those people didnt report they had wait list people standing by to fill in. Hope that helps and wish you the best on making it in.

Had I gone I was going to be a wait list participant again this year and was 17th on the list. I am confident I would of made it into the event again had I been able to go.

Haha thanks! Your report from last year inspired me to take the gamble.. Didn't think I'd get work off, but I did! I think I am actually dead last on the wait list.. Shrugs. Just get there early, I suppose?

 Tomb King wrote:
What is everyone's prediction for top 3 armies in the 40k champs?

Im thinking:
Necron + ally
GK + ally
Necron + ally

Perhaps Tony and his SW/IG may be among the Top 3?

Gosh, why does no one have the BALLS to try to win it with a pure, homogenous non-allied army?

Allies = more available cool toys. Cool toys are the #1 reason I play this game. I predict:
1) Necrons/Csm
2) IG/DA
3) Pure Necrons

Well 7 hrs latter my flight finally landed, there was an issue but it looks like everyone should be able to make it by tomorrow morning. So much for relaxing though.

The calm before the storm:

Is there live stream of the top table for the 40k championships available?

All I can locate is the stream of the main hall...which is a little boring

Yea I was hoping to watch the top table today if it was available.

Nice pic, yak

I just read a Chicago Tribune article that states that the Villiage President of Lombard was going to declare the town a disaster area due to flooding & that many of the main streets are closed.

Lombard Acting Village President Bill Ware declared the town a disaster area and advised residents not to travel because of the number of cars stalled in flooded streets.

Stretches of Roosevelt Road were flooded. Cars were stranded on exit ramps from York Road to Roosevelt Road and on Finley, Highland and Meyers roads.

And from the Village of Lombard's web site:

Posted on: April 18, 2013
Village of Lombard Declared State of Emergency Due To Flooding-UPDATE at 11 a.m.
At 4:58 a.m. this morning, Lombard’s Acting Village President Bill Ware declared the Village of Lombard in a state of emergency due to flooding and high water. The Village’s Emergency Command Center has been activated.

Regular storm updates will be provided at the Village’s website, www.villageoflombard.org
The Village Board of Trustees meeting scheduled for this evening at 7:30 p.m. has been canceled. Elected officials and staff want to focus on the flooding related issues and provide service to the residents and businesses that have been impacted by the storms.
The Village of Lombard has received approximately six inches of rain during the last 24 hours, which has led to flooded roads, ponds overtopping their banks and hazardous conditions. The weather forecast anticipates up to an additional two inches of rain throughout the day.
Village crews are working to minimize the impact of the storm on private and public properties. The Village is currently focusing its resources on emergency response. All storm sewer and pump stations have continued to operate at capacity. “The Village has received hundreds of calls from residents. We are focusing on Life Safety issues and we remind residents to call 9-1-1 for a life threatening emergency,” said Dave Gorman, Assistant Director of Public Works. The Village strongly encourages residents to avoid traveling, as many vehicles have been stuck in the high water.

Do we have any information as to if or how this will affect getting to the Adepticon site? There's no mention of anything on the Adepticon web site. Would be very helpful for those of us driving in from out of town to know where the clear routes in were. With more rain expected, we could all be in for a very "interesting" weekend.


Update:
I talked to the hotel. Things are still good there but Roosevelt Road is closed so if you're coming from the north like we are, you might want to go just south to Route 88 & then take Highland Ave. north. Yorktown Center will be on your right after that.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Orks will have some place in the top3! As an ally or primary.

LValx wrote:
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Orks will have some place in the top3! As an ally or primary.

That is a bold statement cotton we will see if it bares fruit. Orks havent been hit too hard in 6th edition because adding ap to weapons didnt really matter when they only had a 6+ save to begin with. Either way I would be surprised to see one end up in the top 10.

As a Primary. Orks as secondary could make it up there depending who they are aligned with.


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You will be able to watch the entire thing on USTREAM by visiting The Independent Characters USTREAM channel (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-independent-characters) or by clicking on the link under Special Events to the left. Broadcasting of the event will start at 6:00am (CST) on Sunday April 22nd.

Hopefully this just didnt get updated. Otherwise the 40k Champs will happen without a live feed.

The championships commence:

That pictures makes me dizzy looking at. Is that taken with an iPhone on the panorama setting?

Chancetragedy wrote:
That pictures makes me dizzy looking at. Is that taken with an iPhone on the panorama setting?

Yep. I never use that setting, so I thought it might be a cool time to finally try it.

Haha nice, it's a fun setting. Thanks for the pictures for those of us that aren't there. some of us really appreciate getting a feeling of how it's going! Just wish the championship live stream was working instead of just the main hall feed.

 yakface wrote:

The championships commence:

The dude in the hat...he's got a small head!

You will be able to watch the entire thing on USTREAM by visiting The Independent Characters USTREAM channel (http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-independent-characters) or by clicking on the link under Special Events to the left. Broadcasting of the event will start at 6:00am (CST) on Sunday April 22nd.

Hopefully this just didnt get updated. Otherwise the 40k Champs will happen without a live feed.

That's info on last years feed. Independent Characters are not attending or broadcasting this year as one of them is in England this weekend. No one else stepped up to do a live stream of the championships this year (that I know of or can see) since its quite an undertaking (couple thou in gear and shipping costs if I heard rightly).

Might be some other podcasts doing general coverage (there were several last year) but nothing rocking like what the ICs did the last two years.

According to Secound Founding, they are going to be broadcasting Adepticon.
https://www.facebook.com/SecondFounding

Currently they have the main hall and the Privater Press hall up. They should have the 40k Championship Finals tomorrow. I'm not sure if they are doing a top table type broadcast like Independent Characters did or not though.

Links:
Main hall (40k)
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/main-hall1
Privater Press
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/adepticon-2013-championships-feed-a

Can we get a list of finalist and possibly armies?

^ Seconded

Also, what was the pairing of the 10 min table round 1? That's crazy!

Unless the ustream isn't live, I think they are still in round 4. I'm interested to see some results as well!

Chancetragedy wrote:
Unless the ustream isn't live, I think they are still in round 4. I'm interested to see some results as well!

It is live. Looks like they are about to announce the results and final 16 in a few. They appear to be collecting results.

The final round ends at 12:00am CST

 Blackmoor wrote:
The final round ends at 12:00am CST

Ouch how did they get so far behind schedule?

The year of dysfunctional GT's? My guess for the late start is the weather and the fact the town was shutting down roads apparently.

12CST is another what 40 minutes?

The weather.

Adepticon is normally good about time, but the weather delayed a lot of people. The waited a while to start and then they had some no-shows and had to work the wait list.

Even though the airport is open they are way behind and still had delays this morning.

BoK is live blogging-ish

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/04/18/tits-tournaments-adepticon-2013-day-1-40k-championships-coverage/

Has some match ups and results for all rounds and is starting to list the known top 16

Nick nanavati – necron/dragowing
Allan Hernandez (blackmoor) – dragowing
Aaron aleong – necrons/csm
Josh Roberts – necrons/csm
Goatboy – daemons
Eric hoerger – necrons
Tony kopech – khan space marine – IG

Congrats guys! Glad to see my prediction for top army is still alive with necrons/ally for the win. haha!


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 Tomb King wrote:
What is everyone's prediction for top 3 armies in the 40k champs?

Im thinking:
Necron + ally
GK + ally
Necron + ally

I was close to predicting at least the first 3 list/armies perfectly.

Running list of top 16 so far…

Nick nanavati – necron/dragowing
Allan Hernandez (blackmoor) – dragowing
Aaron aleong – necrons/csm
Josh Roberts – necrons/csm
Goatboy – daemons
Eric hoerger – necrons
Tony kopech – khan space marine – IG

Here you go (NOTE, THIS OVERALL ONLY, including paint, sports, etc, and not the actual top 16 going to the finals...trying to get that info still, but everybody is tired and going to bed).

Woohoo! 2 tyranids in the Top 16. Quite a change from last year where there were hardly any tyranid players at all!