now! do i dectect a glimpse of thing to come? a nice scratchbuilt vehicle for your orks would be a looker^^

You already saw the Skrap-trukk, but yeah, i am thinking a fighta-bomma for the Ladz

that would be cool, and on a sidenote i would love to see how you do wings and how you attach them to the body of an airplane...

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aye sir!

Gotta keep things straight now don't we ?

Took me a while to figure out what the hell "kleets" were.

I thought it might be something from a related, but different language (dutch uses 'k' where English uses 'a hard C' for instance), but then I realised you meant "Cleats".

Very nice detailed work.

My own sabres will have a hull mounted anti-personnel weapon, and no sponsons either.

Gotta keep things straight now don't we ?

no space for nonsense anymore...*trods off with sullen face*

*runs back with a new genius idea*
did a google search now for "cleats" and thought i might contribute this here on the more term of treadmounted superheavies...cant get more heavy than this:

http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/crawlere.htm

chromedog wrote:Took me a while to figure out what the hell "kleets" were.

I thought it might be something from a related, but different language (dutch uses 'k' where English uses 'a hard C' for instance), but then I realised you meant "Cleats".

Very nice detailed work.

My own sabres will have a hull mounted anti-personnel weapon, and no sponsons either.

Yeah, I will find a way to have the Missile launcher worked in on the side of the turret.

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Gotta keep things straight now don't we ?

no space for nonsense anymore...*trods off with sullen face*

*runs back with a new genius idea*
did a google search now for "cleats" and thought i might contribute this here on the more term of treadmounted superheavies...cant get more heavy than this:

http://apollomaniacs.web.infoseek.co.jp/apollo/crawlere.htm

The shape of the tread system for the crawler is nice, you also get to see one in the extra download for Fallout -3 where you get to travel to an airbase and the thing is used by the enemy for satellite control of nukes in orbit!

ahhhh fallout 3... one of these days i have to get me a copy...money issues still...

Hey Shaso, wasn't there a tank that used overlapping shoes on the tread track? something like a deck of cards fanned out. anyways, dude keeps talking about using bread clips as tread shoes in Vik's thread, and the only way that i could figure out how those things could be used as treads would be to overlap them kinda like the cards in the pic.


I also found this on the web tonight, and after seeing it, i'm gonna build this as a super heavy Ork Scorcha.

is that beast a flametank??? looks even now perfectly orkish^^

my first attempt in carboard was with overlapping treads...used too thin cardboard but the ida was my first try...

@ Vik - I don't know WHAT that thing is, but I LIKE IT!

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Vik, it's either a flame tank, or a giant hairdryer!

yeah, hairdryer it is saying to me too^^ with the settings:
dry, done, well done and charred...^^

@Sebastian: Yeah, maybe they overlap that way, I have seen that other shoes overlap, especially the WWI style.

Also, that was an odd engineer vehicle the Soviets made in the 1950's. Hella super-skorcha though!


@Vik: Ok Vik, understood, the money issues I have as well.

There's a Hungarian vehicle that is similar but it is hooked up to a water tanker.

It's used to fight fires.

Blows a huge spray of mist at the fire. This cools the core below combustion temperatures. Not a water jet, but fine mist which absorbs much more heat.

As to the crawler, I saw that on "Dirty Jobs" (Mike Rowe got to grease one of them up and do some of the regular maintenance - while it was moving. The crew who work on it don't have much in the way of kind words for the beast.

Found some more.









Sorry, my inner child has emerge................again













Ok, i think thats enough........................................for now

Nice images you found Mr.-Squigi.

Chromedog, yeah, Mike Rowe would find the weirdest jobs that also were filthy to do. Maintaining a moving crawler sounds like Grot Rigger work though.

ah...exactly the man i need for me own thread...



*leads shaso by the hand*

LOL! need more comments for the tank you are working on?

I have to find a tip for the PVA glue, rivets time!


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More as it flowed on how to do it.
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how did you aply the glue? i read somehwere to use a toothpick...looking nevertheless really nice...this is also quite a big time work...sometimes i think if we just did a lifezized "model" we would have to invest into the same amount of time...^^

I poured PVA glue into a smaller glue container that was empty, and used a canula tip and squeezed out the glue, like a candy or cake icing sort of situation!

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to tell you the harmfull truth i am not really sold on the methode of this rivetmakeing...i feel already bad for telling you that but i think they look to big...tho this might change when painted...and a thought crossed my mind... you could use a nail and push it slightly into the cured rivet to make an indent... thus better explaining why they are bigger than all your other tank rivets...sorry mate...don´t shoot the bearer of bad news...

It does take practice and more finesse, if they do not shrink down right I can just peel them off and work on making smaller ones it is PVA glue, not perma-bond.
I remember the past where you were not at first old on my paint scheme either

First hull based rivets
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There are some al;ready set for replacing, especially now that I have a better control on the method!
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But it no longer has skin as smooth as a baby's bottom
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lol... talk about orangeskin^^ well i guess you are right with your comments about that i was not at first sold by the konfederacy paintscheme...sometimes an idea needs to be digested and after then it can be fully apreciated^^ and you are right, pva glue is very forgiving... with plasticcard at least^^ cardboard is another issue^^

the structure will be quite dominant in the finished look...thus maybe you can realy press the look of a WWI tank forward!

the lower side of the tracksystem look best so far... practice makes perfect as the old ones say^^

And more of the right side armor rivets
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Left side was pretty much done before I snapped the pic
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Hull and turret together
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The glue is far more liquid than cake icing^^

i think the mainbody is good as it is... the turret i think you should do a review yourself...
also i saw a thing that left me wanting...the connectionpart between sponsons and the tracksystem... will you add something there to visually connect the two parts together? like a "L" structure along the line, and then on horizontal and vertical space give it a close riveting line?

I was leaving the impression that like the MK-1thru-V the sponsons could slide back into the hull for shipping.

does it really do that with the mark 1 to 5??? cool...so there then a bit of oil and grease hints for better sliding then? nice idea...

Viktor von Domm wrote:does it really do that with the mark 1 to 5??? cool...so there then a bit of oil and grease hints for better sliding then? nice idea...

All a part of a cunning plan!

worng thread... that was one of your bosses with the cunning plan^^

I Have a cunning plan! Ragnotz has a Kunnin' plan!

reminds me of this here: i just love it when a plan comes together^^ *switches cigar from side to side...*

Viktor von Domm wrote:reminds me of this here: i just love it when a plan comes together^^ *switches cigar from side to side...*

LOL! Flying a tank always works eh?

the silliest piece of cgi i ever saw...but then we deal with the a-tem here...

Actually "I have a cunning plan" would be Baldrick from Blackadder goes Forth (the WW1 version) I always loved his cunning plans

Baldrick had cunning plans in all the Blackadders. The actual cunningness of the plan varied, of course

i think this thread is sufficiently derailed now... so better back on track...er...

I only really saw the WW1 episodes, and the one where blackadder fell in love with "Bob".

Loved it when Lord Flasheart kept calling him slackbladder. And the episode when he joined the RFC.


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If you like mammoth tanks, take a look at this from hyenajoes thread. This was at Gamesday France this year and it over 3 metres long.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/300/296459.page#2859332

Okay so its not technically a tank but its still cool.

Armored train for WH40K, Nice!

I have added a smoke launcher, and more bands and rivets, especially to the barbette in back for the Heavy Bolter!
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You can see the extra bands and rivets, along with a new optical system atop the barbette
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Back view, more rivets, the opticals, smoke, and even tow lugs!
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Rivets on the inside areas of the track and wheel assembly!
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The Perun is nearly ready for the paint!
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The Perun is nearly ready for the paint!

*rubs hands in fetish like anticipation^^*

it does look like a real masterpiece you know? the changing of the turret rivets was a good decision! if i was in a decision position i would be pleased^^ as a mere wathcer i am pleased beyond belief! the thing is a looker!!!
and by the way... i learned today what a barbette is simply by your selfexplanationary pics you showed...google and translation sites didn´t help me there ^^

but your pics did^^

i am really looking forward to seeing this "monstrosity" getting your treatment...i am torn between being envious and feeling sorry for you to paint this mass of details on that scale...this will be a hell of a work...enjoy it and stay sane^^

vik

Viktor von Domm wrote:

The Perun is nearly ready for the paint!

*rubs hands in fetish like anticipation^^*

it does look like a real masterpiece you know? the changing of the turret rivets was a good decision! if i was in a decision position i would be pleased^^ as a mere wathcer i am pleased beyond belief! the thing is a looker!!!
and by the way... i learned today what a barbette is simply by your selfexplanationary pics you showed...google and translation sites didn´t help me there ^^

but your pics did^^

i am really looking forward to seeing this "monstrosity" getting your treatment...i am torn between being envious and feeling sorry for you to paint this mass of details on that scale...this will be a hell of a work...enjoy it and stay sane^^

vik

Well, Vik, it was decent advice for the exchange of those rivets.

Glad to have helped expand your vocabulary my friend!

It will be painted, dirtied, muddied and some wear spots added!

Sane? oh no! far too late for that! (I got a sandwich in my head!)

lol...that sandwich is capabal of some quite tremendous tankmaking deeds, where to get that kind of meals that stucks to your brain? ...could be useful^^


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oh... by the way... wouldn´t it be nice to make a real feature story of a tankcrew of the perun? like the vassily chapters but with the tankcrew on spotlight... now that´d be a story that i wanted to read^^

^^Yeah! Tasty sandwich!

Well, maybe there could be some story like that!, maybe^^

*hint, hint* *nudge, nudge*

so much detail , congratulations on a fine tank , the perun is stunning.

No worries Vik.

Thanks Neil, it sure took me long enough eh?

Hi thanks for the pictures of the Old Crow stuff. Have you got a Glaive yet I've been considering using them as Chimera's for an age now? I'd also love to see a comparison shot between the dragoon and a chimera!

Llamahead wrote:Hi thanks for the pictures of the Old Crow stuff. Have you got a Glaive yet I've been considering using them as Chimera's for an age now? I'd also love to see a comparison shot between the dragoon and a chimera!

Hi Llamamhead, I do not have the Glaive The Lancer is certainly a big boy for an APC.

As for a comparative between the Dragoon and a chimera? Why here are fresh comparison pics to show differences and commonalities between them!
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Convoy style pose to see how low slung the Dragoon actually is!
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The Dragoon, as seen in this above shot is also slimmer than the Chimera, great for streets in cramped cities and villages!
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Latest version of the Chimera, with the dozer blade is a smidge shorter than the Dragoon!
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Here, you can see the servo turret of the Dragoon makes it level with the hull of the Cimera.
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The Chimera however, can hide the dragoon! OOOPS! they forgot to drop the auto-cannon barrel , it is just visible past the Cimera turret, over the Heavy-Bolter.
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I hope that those helped.

the chimera has a capacity of ten ...how would you see the capacity of the lancer? also ten? or rather a bit less, as for me it looks a bit lacking of biggness...more like 6-8 i would guess... a bit of a reconnissence vehicle for me...

Chimera and Lancer would be 12 actually. That way you can squeeze a priest and a Commissar in with the squad.

The Dragoon is meant to carry no more than 6 men, for a small, but hurrying Stormtrooper team in. Like a Salamander/Centaur mix.^^ The Dragoon is meant for recon.

oh...didn´t recall the 12 men capacity ... recon is cool, halftrack kind of fits the bill quite nicley then^^

family is at home... kidergarden is closed and my wife is ill atm (earaches...) and so i don´t know how much i can do on my own projects...and by the way...good night, as time is mostly overdue^^ catch ya tomorrow!

vik

Okeedokee.

^^

Teaser shot, How the Perun looks in black paint
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mooooooaaaaaaaarree please! now we can see the full might of the rivets done by glue.... very convincing... and i swallow every hard word i said before^^ if you stick two or three decals on it you could even now declare it done^^ so goodlooking is it already!

Blkack makes it look sexy eh?

Now for the other pics!
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As requested, I did not blast paint the grill. This will be done by hand
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Front view, looking like it has been around a while.
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Right-side and still sexy in it's own way!
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Rivet-mania!
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All the details already pop out at you up close.
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totally black power case here! the detail is really catching one by the throat!

Viktor von Domm wrote:totally black power case here! the detail is really catching one by the throat!

And then there will be the painting and weathering.

hmmm i still am contemplating the camopainting as a exeption to your rule...this beast would be maybe betterlooking without a camo job and rather with proud colors? weathering is mandatory for this hulk^^

But the camo paint will show the weathering better than just plain black will

thast is for sure... i just thought of more of a plain grey (as i always say blue^^) painted tank with a hint of maybe your green you use as aplication...then heavy weathering and rust... is this understandable?


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by the way... tho plain black now looks cool, it is totally out of the question for guardsmen... this would look too much like black templers... and the imperial guard cant have that^^

Thanks a lot mate. Much appreciated Old Crow when I get moneyy it'll probably be!

I'm seeing sort of a sand color, like that tank in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Drybrush a lighter flesh tone on top of this dark base coat, add maybe some darker desert-style camo in places (WWI camo, not modern fancy stuff) and some good weathering... Any way you paint it, it's gonna look awesome.

Viktor von Domm wrote:thast is for sure... i just thought of more of a plain grey (as i always say blue^^) painted tank with a hint of maybe your green you use as aplication...then heavy weathering and rust... is this understandable?


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by the way... tho plain black now looks cool, it is totally out of the question for guardsmen... this would look too much like black templers... and the imperial guard cant have that^^

Well, you know me, I have to have a multi-colored tank!^^

LOL!

Llamahead wrote:Thanks a lot mate. Much appreciated Old Crow when I get moneyy it'll probably be!

No worries! Glad to have helped.



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Perun, now with blackened grill hatch!
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oh please we need a clearer pic of that twinbarreled stubber...
a sideview and a from top view please^^

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Sleep time, I will have more pics of that MG later on, before you go to sleep Vik!.

something to really to look forward to^^ sleep the well mate^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:something to really to look forward to^^ sleep the well mate^^

Well, it looks like I awoke later than planned. But here, the flash caught the extended barrels of the MG.
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Is it just me, or do those tow hooks seem a little... weedy on the Perin?

It is the scale of them, they are from a 1/35th scale Char-1B kit from Tamiya. of course they may look small and unreliable on such a monster like the Perun.

They aren't for towing the Perun, but for it to tow OTHER tanks, or strap on cargo...

The hooks are actually pretty big compared to a person, about the same as a head or so. a RL link like that would weigh in at about 20lbs

hmmm so you did a conversion with a twinlinked bolter too... i am curious about how you did the grips on the stubber...why are yours so laid back... well more then mine? looks good but i would like to know how you did it? and where did you get those different amoboxes from? the barrels look very convincing and a bit like vickers to me...really good looking!

It's just the one from the Leman Russ kits, that is the IG bolters/twinlinked.

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oh... dind´t knew the LR has a Twinlinked bolter...well i did mine from a SM sprue and mixed a handle from a HW team...this clarifies that...^^

That's a cool tank man, looking forward to the paint job!

Viktor von Domm wrote:oh... dind´t knew the LR has a Twinlinked bolter...well i did mine from a SM sprue and mixed a handle from a HW team...this clarifies that...^^

Apparently they gave the choice for either the Heavy Stubber or tl-boltguns for the Russ extras sprue^^

Meph wrote:That's a cool tank man, looking forward to the paint job!

It is getting close to the camo job time.


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And yes, I bored out all of the gun barrels that needed it.

OOh undercoat is done ... all very neat and uniform , rubs hand for the painting . Are you doing your usual colour scheme mate?

btw the rivets came out real nice

neil101 wrote:OOh undercoat is done ... all very neat and uniform , rubs hand for the painting . Are you doing your usual colour scheme mate?

btw the rivets came out real nice

This will get the same camo works,m along with more wear and tear! It is an ancient design, I am even going to include Imperial Fields for protections!

Thanks, it was a lot of work to make all of those.

did the amoboxes also came with the LR extra sprue?

Viktor von Domm wrote:did the amoboxes also came with the LR extra sprue?

Those ammo boxes are molded on! each bolter is a paret with the ammo box that glues together near the trigger mechanism, and that makes the gluing all the more interesting as you have to maintain some pressure to make sure it does not fall off the pintle or adheres to it!

well i have my share of failed glue attempts... but as i saw this tank of yours develop during time i see now how good you seem to be with glue... all those angles you did on the trackshoes... this is glueing at it´s best^^

I will confess, I have been learning to build models since I was counting my age in single digits! I recall, the first kits were when I was say 6yrs old. I am now 47. Damn I feel old.

nope you ARE old^^

i feel that some days too mind you... early morning... too long stay at dakka and i feel more like fifty sometimes...hairloss and wrikles galore in my face too...what more can a man be a fraid of...guess having to get rid of ones collection could be worse^^
what did you then built all fresh and young? my first model was a cruiser ship (?) and i failed horribly since then... did the odd pane here and there but took me years to start making minis/models again...lack of confidence and all thse related problems...
so feel proud about a history (hurhurhur) of modleing succesful built models!

They were the movie monsters and space ships of the 1950's.

sounds interresting... the lot is probably if still exsitent highly sought for^^

Yeah, and far more expensive than those days too! These were models for about 2-4dollars back then. I was even in the Model of the Month club for a while. In that, Revell would send in the mail a model that was selected to be the Model of the Month and a brown box would arrive with the kit in it. One, a WWI bi-plane was not cared for well and arrived damaged.


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And now, so many years later, I am making models off the top of my head!^^
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well you certainly have expirience in the field of modelmaking, so i think the logical step is to make your own models from scratch...and your efforts prove my musing right^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:well you certainly have expirience in the field of modelmaking, so i think the logical step is to make your own models from scratch...and your efforts prove my musing right^^

Now if I could just get that sculpting to improve.........my own designed minis.

^^ went that line too... i guess the tricky part will be the faces...

by the way...o you know scibor minis? they have a small tutorial on mini sculpting... knowing fully well that they can´t be bested in a hurry^^

linky:
http://www.sciborminiatures.com/en_,sculpting.php
this even me could understand and hope to do so one day...

I thought this may be of interest. Some pretty epic conversions in my opinion.

http://gardeimperialew40k.blogspot.com/2007_06_01_archive.html

Vik Thanks!

Sicksix, I have seen some of those before, always nice to see such wild stuff. I liked the Hellhound


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The camo has started!
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And here! A teaser!
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a retailiation teaser?^^
well so be it...looking good...seeing your blueish grey first i see again how difficult it is to make a convincing random pattern for camo... tried that one and it didn´t come of easy at all...yours looks even convincing with one color and then with the added green...blimey!

as for that línk of sicksix:

dang didnt work, was the valk done in a doublewinged WWI plane style...

might have to look further into that design for my own need later on...

More a hold you over Teaser! Now for the banquet! head on!
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New spots for tow cables to attach to!
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Sponsons aimed!
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Head on with different light
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Left side, sponsons showing bored out weapons
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Aft gun ready for action!
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i have to look back from time to time to remember that this is a slefmade model and not some bought one just getting a lick of paint to it after assembly...

Viktor von Domm wrote:i have to look back from time to time to remember that this is a selfmade model and not some bought one just getting a lick of paint to it after assembly...

Why thank you Vik! That is quite the compliment of my skill as a model maker. (I once dreamed of making models for Hollywood movies and shows, but CGI has taken over!)

A severe blue-shift in colore but look how many guns are facing the same way!
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4 guns to the right!
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All guns facing out!
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As you already know Vik, this tank is far from finished I have only just begun!

seeing all this gunmovement going on (and i didn´t catch that the barbarette bolter was movable too) you could fully well name your tank porcupine^^

and yep, was totally meant as a compliment... and for the true connisseur some movies still make props...so i woudln´t stop dreaming but instead try to get your models shown on a broader scale...

Hmmm, I may have to see if there is a Russian word for such a naming!

LOL! it is a dying art likely for those who want to make low budget movies, but yeah, very possible to accomplish.

the way i see it, the props makeing is rather more timeconsuming and costbinding than CGI...and to tell you the truth... after seeing babylon 5 the series and the awful prequels to star wars... i wish they had done them with props... that would be much better...


guess there wont be a good and fitting word for porcupine be as the animal isn´t at home in russian speaking countries...as i recall..

So many needful things

I have found that Russia also has Hedgehogs, and those have quills.

well i didn´t meant hedgehogs but porcupines but well at the end of a day...where is the difference^^

It will be a very short name i found out, while not finding a Russian word for porcupine, they do have the Hedgehog, and the name for it in Russian is "Ezh".

Lol! such a short name for huge a tank is irony!

i think with perun you are far better of than ezh....but you could name your tw lascanon ezh... now how does that sound?^^

I think the name Hedgehog, or Ezh will be an unofficial "nickname" from the soldiers for the Perun!

porcupine is dikobraz people

biohazardcake wrote:porcupine is dikobraz people

Thank you very much! the search engines were pathetic when I searched for the Russian word for Porcupine, this is a great help!

Glad to help thanks.

biohazardcake wrote:Glad to help thanks.

Anytime.

Very nice work man, very inspiring. I have recently started modeling tanks, mainly historical tanks that I will just display. But I just started an IG army so that I can field some serious armor. Thank you for giving me inspiration to build up my armored division of my IG.

Synister_Intent wrote:Very nice work man, very inspiring. I have recently started modeling tanks, mainly historical tanks that I will just display. But I just started an IG army so that I can field some serious armor. Thank you for giving me inspiration to build up my armored division of my IG.

It is worth having the tanks for your IG trust me. I have over a dozen Leman Russ tanks along with all the other oddballs in this thread.

dikobraz

this is quite good sounding... and the first syllable has a certain manly ring to it^^ what better as a nickname for something gunstarring as the perun^^

nice work! I missed you lot in cornwall ^^

does this mean your back in where ever that was your used to live?^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:does this mean your back in where ever that was your used to live?^^

got home yesterday, hence back in black.

ah...thought the vid was only for in terms of being back to communiate^^ well hello again^^
use at your own risk

Nice work very Mark IV/Char 1 bis vibe you've got going there

Viktor von Domm wrote:

dikobraz

this is quite good sounding... and the first syllable has a certain manly ring to it^^ what better as a nickname for something gunstarring as the perun^^

Yes, and it is all because of Biohazardcake giving that word to me!, the search engines could not find what I asked for.

shrike wrote:nice work! I missed you lot in cornwall ^^

Been missing you and your posts too! Glad you like the work! amazing what can be crafted w/o blueprints, or a kit!

shrike wrote:

Viktor von Domm wrote:does this mean your back in where ever that was your used to live?^^

got home yesterday, hence back in black.

Back in Black, a cool song and a cool state of being.

Llamahead wrote:Nice work very Mark IV/Char 1 bis vibe you've got going there

And after being swamped with the standard modern designs, and the Leman Russ that has not changed in so many years,, I reemembered the bigger look to the olde tanks , the Char-1 being one I liked when I had the old Matchbox kit that had both it, and a FT-17 in a single kit! I kind of mixed the Mark-IV with the MK-VIII styles with the Char-1. Of course the Perun is wider than the MK-VIII "International" and the other tanks, but not by too much for the size reference.

the perun is now one of his one kind^^
by the way, any new updates on your work?

Math test halted all work

well then i cross fingers for you to come up with the right sums^^

Well, enough of that, I need to get back to the tank and other projects.

whatever takes your fancy^^

Well, time to rest for now, but I will likely have fresh work done today for pics to post. My gallery is getting so full of pics!

update time my freind... dont get away now^^

With the gray and green, i will also add to the Sabres and Claymore!

mornin`matey^^

sounds like a shipload of work to hit the gallery^^

Plenty of pics to follow as i paint waiting for the laundry, your morning flakes will be exciting I must say when you wake to all the pics I will have!

*starts chewing fingernails^^*

Please do not chew your nails, bad habit!

Cllaymore at next stage. Green camo applique!
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you've certainly been busy. Nice job!

shrike wrote: you've certainly been busy. Nice job!

More still to show!

looking promisingly good as usual matey! one of these days you might make a tutorial on how to aply convincingly camo painting without tape and other help...just freehanding but still looking so random... for me this is quite the feat as my camo tends to look not random but to willed....

Viktor von Domm wrote:looking promisingly good as usual matey! one of these days you might make a tutorial on how to aply convincingly camo painting without tape and other help...just freehanding but still looking so random... for me this is quite the feat as my camo tends to look not random but to willed....

I learned by looking at books for camo, and the US Army happened to basically teach me to paint trucks and such, I just took that and small scaled it down!

Perun with the third camo color!
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the fine black streaks are the best in the camo scheme...and by far the trickiest part...so teaching by military standards... so there won´t be a chance of a tut... seems when you tell us you have to shoot us all...dang...there goes the know how...

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but your lines look way more fraglile and this is were the beauty of the models derives from...

nitpick: the fronline of the claymore looks smudged a bit...can´t be all praise now, can´t we?^^

Ah, that can be fixed easily!

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tho i am still thinking the perun might need a different aproach than camopainting... on the sabre the camo is THE thing to do, with this it looks real...as if somehow the pic was taken on a giant desktop that could support a real sized leopard or abrams^^

Well, If I do change the Perun, I would do it in either solid green, or dazzle patterns like a ship.

dazzle patterns ? like that? googled it to understand:


looks horrible to me...
solid green sounds way better, but i wouldn´t give too much on my words^^ do your camo and it IS your army so your styling as you see fit! period!^^

I knew that you'd see reason sooner or later my friend!

lol...i feel enlighted already... thank you shaso for showing me the way!

I simply let the path be found, it is then upon the supplicant to tread that path!^^

*bows humbly*

well i am off for now.. got a date with my personel torturer/dentist...keep me in good memory...

Good luck at the dentist

A word of warning; don't wear a dazzle pattern to the dentist. You want him focussed and damn sure where your mouth is. ^^

he did a good job on my teeth^^ and i came without camo^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:looking promisingly good as usual matey! one of these days you might make a tutorial on how to aply convincingly camo painting without tape and other help...just freehanding but still looking so random... for me this is quite the feat as my camo tends to look not random but to willed....

vik your posting seems to be going ever up...
I posted not 2 days ago and you've racked up nearly a page of this thread!
nearlt at 4750 posts now! About 3 weeks back you'd just hit 4,000!

camo looks really good, I just wish I could be bothered to get some more tanks and build them...

ha... stuff 4750... i aim for the big fiver^^

heh, at least you're not a thousand above me...
If you become so I'll have to step it up a notch (or not, he's the man who made minecraft, the reason I'm not on as much )

well... join a help yourself group now for socialy disturbed peeps that game too much minecraft...and see for yourself how your postings are going through the roof...



and he even wears an AC/DC shirt^^

Time to get this thread back on track....get it? a tank thread and I am getting it "back on track"

Anyway, the second Sabre(with the commander out the hatch.)
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Nice tanks been looking at this thread for months.

biohazardcake wrote:Nice tanks been looking at this thread for months.

Thank you! and again, thanks for showing the word I was looking for, Dikobraz, much more imposing than Ezh!

I have been a Tank fan since I was a kid.

The Perun looks good with some colour on , in fact she is the best looking tank in your arsenal imo . she could be produced by forgeworld shes that good .

neil101 wrote:The Perun looks good with some colour on , in fact she is the best looking tank in your arsenal imo . she could be produced by forgeworld shes that good .

Such flattery! It would be nice to have such a job if it were offered, but alas, not likely to happen.

but thats not because of lack of quality on your part...rather the spoonheads at FW for not recruiting modlers on such boards as this...really one would expect the occaisonal headhunter to apear here from time to time...
and for tank loving... it is rather easy to fall in love with tanks...the don´t ask for much and give so much in return... if you feed them enough they wont get tired (get it? as lame as bringing the thread back opn track....muaaaahhhaa), you canb have a hell of a good time with them and if someone oggles to long on them then you can runèm down or mow èm down...see it is a win win win winwinwin...situation^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:but thats not because of lack of quality on your part...rather the spoonheads at FW for not recruiting modlers on such boards as this...really one would expect the occaisonal headhunter to apear here from time to time...
and for tank loving... it is rather easy to fall in love with tanks...the don´t ask for much and give so much in return... if you feed them enough they wont get tired (get it? as lame as bringing the thread back opn track....muaaaahhhaa), you canb have a hell of a good time with them and if someone oggles to long on them then you can runèm down or mow èm down...see it is a win win win winwinwin...situation^^

Well, likely because they do not view things as much here. Yeah, tanks have plenty to give as long as you feed them well. Hehehehehe!
Glad that many here are enjoying my tanks on view!

call about love on first sight^^

This is were the treadheads hang out!

lol...

shasolenzabi wrote:Time to get this thread back on track....get it? a tank thread and I am getting it "back on track"

"back on track, I hit the sack,
it's been to long I'm glad to be back
yes, I'm let loose
from the noose
that's kept me hanging about
I keep looking at the thread
cos' it's getting me ahead
forget the hearse cos' I'll never die
I got 2 dice
snake eyes
using every one of them and drivin' wild

'cos I'm back
yes, I'm back
well, I'm back
yes, I'm back
well, I'm back
back
well I'm back on track
yes, I'm back on track

back in the back
of a giant track
number one with a plasma cannon
with a powerpack
yes, with a bang
on a gang
they've got to wreck me if they want me to hang
'cos I'm back in the track
and I'm dealing the flak
no one's gonna get me in another tank trap
so look at me now
I'm just making my play
don't death or glory, just get out of my way

heh.

such a shame that you hit the button twice^^

i am thinking is this the real lyrics converted for the occasion or does shrike start to get rap on us? i hope its not the later...if it is the former the we have us a genuine poet here^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:such a shame that you hit the button twice^^

i am thinking is this the real lyrics converted for the occasion or does shrike start to get rap on us? i hope its not the later...if it is the former the we have us a genuine poet here^^

It's modified lyrics. AC/DC - Back in black.

well i thought so^^

*bows humbly*
thank you, thank you.

might have to make songs up for every occasion now...hmm...

biohazardcake wrote:This is were the treadheads hang out!

Exactly! for any and all kinds of wild tread-designs!

soooo? did you gone metalics again?

Viktor von Domm wrote:soooo? did you gone metalics again?

You peeked! And to think I thought that was for checking out a gal like Eva Habermann! Been watching Lexx.

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shiney^^ and i didn´t take a peek...i thought it was about time you started in that direction... although you could always get astray with your sabres and claymores...just noticed that the tanknames are all types of swords^^ silly me for not noticing earlier^^

and lexx was cool...mostly due eva haberman...boy had i a crush on her... normaly i am not into blondes but she...whoeee^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:shiney^^ and i didn´t take a peek...i thought it was about time you started in that direction... although you could always get astray with your sabres and claymores...just noticed that the tanknames are all types of swords^^ silly me for not noticing earlier^^

and lexx was cool...mostly due eva haberman...boy had i a crush on her... normaly i am not into blondes but she...whoeee^^

I know what you mean aabout Eva ^^

Well, the Sabres and Claymore will get their shinies tomorrow.

oi , since your still on... i just pop a question to you:
how do you treat your rivets for your monster tank, and how should i treat mine...paitwise speaking...do you just implement them with the camopaint thats at that specific point and should i do that too or should i bling them up a treat? i have revieted up one side of the trackssystem and now i begin to think about painttreatment...

My two cents would be to paint 'm up just with the regular camo. Generally, it looks a bit 'off' when they're all neatly metallic. A tank is put together before it's painted.

You can always have them stand out at a later stage. Accentuate them with some rust streaks, or paint just some of them up in metallic, as if an armour plate has just been replaced etc.

Pretty much the way I am going Meph, some will have "chipped" and then rust added, and drips of rusty streaks from all of them as the Perun is to be an old gal. BTW, I have made it so venerable a design that it has 2 void shields!

Here is my recon APC i've made from an old toy tank and spare predator parts, of course is still a work in progress and needs to be improved a lot, what do you think?

at meph: you`are right...of course then the rivets couldn´t be shiny (insert facepalm here...)

at shaso: what is a void shield?

Viktor von Domm wrote:at meph: you`are right...of course then the rivets couldn´t be shiny

at shaso: what is a void shield?
basically a force field that goes on a tank.

If fired upon, i get to ignore a glance or pen shot, even with an Apocalyptic "D" class weapon, "D"= Destroyer! terrain goes poof, so you get no hiding behind something benefits as the shot get's both your tank and the terrain!

The field is also back on if you roll a 6+

Shrike, that explanation was darkly written!

MdM, I say nice work! Looks like it has seen plenty of action so far! I would count it as a Salamander(closed top) and have fun with it! If it is a IG tank.

Camo time! for that little beast.

oh...aha ... thanks shrike...sounds useful^^ how does it get modeled on a super heavy? are there bitz to show that in wysiwyg?

Not really, the big quantifier is it is attached to either a Warmachine like a Superheavy, or a titan

shasolenzabi wrote:
MdM, I say nice work! Looks like it has seen plenty of action so far! I would count it as a Salamander(closed top) and have fun with it! If it is a IG tank.

Camo time! for that little beast.

Thanks, fluff wise is supposed to be a tank built by an enginseer from salvaging parts during an hard battle against the orks (maybe Armageddon?), as for the rules i wanted to use it as a scout/infiltrator/fast transport, something like the land speeder storm

Ah, Salamander is a fast vehicle as is the Centaur and they are tracked fast vehicles too!

at MDM :
your fast attack tank looks very good, will he stay all metalic? love the turret, gatlingstyle all the way^^

at shaso:

Not really, the big quantifier is it is attached to either a Warmachine like a Superheavy, or a titan

so it is a not seeable built in device...meh...would have been a nice opertunity to go ballistic on scratchbuilding^^

I might do it5 one day if I get the money for the tesla coils from Zinge.

shipping would be the only thing ...but then you just order till the free postage sum and your good to go^^

My tanks will have accessories added on one of these days!

Viktor von Domm wrote:at MDM :
your fast attack tank looks very good, will he stay all metalic? love the turret, gatlingstyle all the way^^

I'm planning to paint it with an urban camo pattern (maybe blue or black) but first i have to improve the hull with greenstuff and more spare parts

sounds good... mind telling what toytank you used? or maybe showing some wip pics you still have?

Yes, this thread is for oddballs of the tank family! Go ahead and post wip!

any new pics of your allegedly cold perun?

Sadly, the project today is one that I was paid for, daemons to be painted first today, but i did upgrade Magnotz da Warlord! But he is not a tank.


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Viktor von Domm wrote:sounds good... mind telling what toytank you used? or maybe showing some wip pics you still have?

The base of the tank is made from an Abrams model: length and width were pertty good compared to rhinos, but it was way too short, so i grabbed some spare pieces from the Predator Baals kits and built a structure on the main hull, and now i'm adding more details on it: will post more pictures soon.

nahh the perun just has to run him down... good riddance and be gone ye foul mouth^^

demons on comission? sounds interesting... pics?

Here is more picture of my APC, feel free to suggest a name for it

so you made interchangeable turrets? nice idea...this makes your apc very adjustable...

as for the name... you said the tank was made from desperatly cobbled together parts from the battlefield...so i suggest: the Prowler...

sounds good?


vik

Hey guys! Im Loving this thread! I love seeing custom or scratch built tanks!

The Perun is Absolutely Fantastic! I commend your skills, Far beyond anything im capable of!

Anyways, onto my tanks!
I have this vehicle, its my Leman Russ converted out of a Rhino. i was bored, and had a good few rhinos laying around wasting space.
I think that this model looks similar to a Bradley fighting vehicle.




Now onto my custom Atlus Recovery and Support Tank!
This is converted out of Guess What? more Rhinos. i had a bunch of random vehicle weapons laying around and spare tank tracks. I put them all over the model, along with ammo, some camo nets, and various supplies to signify that these guys will do combat resupplies, and combat tows/tank recoveries.

nice tanks firecancer! how did you do the rust effects on your counts as leman russ? looks nice! i also thought for a bit modern feel a rhino chassis could do very well! and the second tank looks very good too! specially the platfrom in the rear, this gives a nice feeling of a resupply vehicle.


cheers, vik

Thanks Victor!!!

The rust effect was pretty simple though time consuming. Its a decently heavy drybrush with Bestial Brown with a little Dwarven Bronze, a heavy wash of Badab Black, a wash with Devlin Mud, then a light drybrush of Snakebite Leather, than a Heavy wash of Ogyrn Flesh. All of this over top the two drybrushes of Boltgun Metal, then Mithril Silver.

I also did the Mud effect with elmers glue and sand, painted Bestial Brown with a drybruch of Snakebite Leather.

For the Atlus, i plan on picking up the Tank Crew blister in the Bitz section on GW's site. and have them sitting in the back area.

Both are still WIP, i have a bunch of putty work to fill gaps. Along with finding Bunch more rhino thread to finish the models up. As you can see they're missing a Lot of threads.

tankstreads for GW tanks are often found on ebay for good value... also i think i´ve meant the sand pva mix that gave the nice rusty feel to the mentioned points... something i have to keep in mind!

facepalm...i mistook the mudeffect with rust...ups^^

Yeah i havent been to my GW store in a while, and they have a big bitz box that i plan on looking through to find tank treads in.

Yeah, the mud effect kinda Does look like rust and all now that im looking at it. The rust effect i described was what i did to the dozer blade.

And seeing it in photos i kinda feel like i need to redo the aquila i freehanded on the dozer blade, seems lopsided to me haha.

i would let the aquilla stay as it is, looks really nice and you did even some shadeing effect there to make it look a bit 3D so this is a cool addition.
hmmm the two GW stores i visited so long never had a bitz box... if they had i would be a regular customer i guess...

a good and quick weathering effect you can achieve by simply making a black spot and then not completly filling it with metalpaint... also if you want scratched metalics i also suggest to only drybrush mithril or boltgunmetal on a black basecoat... thus you get nice scratches all over and then later on you can get some nice effects with just washes... helped me a lot...

@Vik: That all depends of who gets to move first, the Perun(Tank-shock/Deathg or glory for Magnotz) or Magnotz move, Waaagh!, assault, Tank shock uses the front armor value, assault uses the more tender back armor.

@MdM: Hmm Prowler does sound nice, as Vik suggested.

@Firecancer: Lovely models! I started the same way, build the normal stuff, then bash a couple of kits together, and now scratch build, so I would say that you are on your way to what Vik and I have been doing. (Yeah, it does help that there are so many tanks laying about for you to work with!) Great work!

Yeah, im kinda of a perfectionist. I'm gonna fight my urge to redo it haha. Yeah the aquila was done with three seperate shades of Codex grey, either mixed with white or black, then i high lighted it with a mix of codex and mithrill silver. Which i am satisfied with the way it looks. I plan on doing free-hand on the valyrie/vendettas i am planning on picking exactly liek that.

And thanks, i've heard people use the black spot method, but i have yet to try it out. I will be trying it on my tanks shortly!

Half the reason i am a regular at my GW store is the Bitz Box.

Thanks a lot Shasolenzabi! I just sold most of my CSM Infantry and i was left with a few rhinos and predators to toy around with. I am working on another conversion, a Nearly scratch built "Duece and a Half" truck for my IG. I have that thread posted up here, so take a look and let me know what you think! i won't post pics here cause its not Technically a tank.

FireCancer wrote:Thanks a lot Shasolenzabi! I just sold most of my CSM Infantry and i was left with a few rhinos and predators to toy around with. I am working on another conversion, a Nearly scratch built "Duece and a Half" truck for my IG. I have that thread posted up here, so take a look and let me know what you think! i won't post pics here cause its not Technically a tank.

No worries, the purpose of this thread is for the odd tanks, and those include scratch/bashed/and just plain odd out of the box! I would have loved getting one of the original Gamilon 3-barreled battle tank kits for use as well, but the were never made, HMMMMM< a potential challenging attempt for a scratch-built-tank project!


Hope to see more work from you here as well guys!

Hahah, That would be a fun build!

Well, Ill post up this pic of the truck, its still WIP. Made from an Ork Trukk cab, frame and bed. It will be used as a stand-in for a chimera when it comes game time.
I have sanding and some extras i still haven't put on yet. waiting on a GW order for some bitz!

Cool! you even have the Aquila on the front!

So, having seen the size comparison between Viks, Vik-torian tank and a predator, I took a similarly sized chimera and comparison pics came for the Perun and the Chimera and a Leman Russ to better appreciate the Peruns' size(Although not as massive as Vik's Steam powered monster!) Apparently I am addicted to lower slung tank concepts.

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well your tank is obiously big but still rightz in scale! i think mine is a bit off the scale (^^) the thing i like about your perun is the form of it...he is a bit more realistic in terms of profile...he is longer and this makes him look way lower than the steamtank of mine...seeing yours and mine tanks i think i will definatly do another tank in the nearer future...i am also now in the planning phase for something walker like...tho the form and how to of the legs gives me the willies....

Well, Vik, keep in mind that your machgine was built using steam power principles, so that does require more room for the workings and gears and water and fuel hoppers. Mine is still very Russian inspired to be low slung.

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yeah did quite some research already^^ is a long term project, often abondoned by me...

i just saw that the spnsons are quite big...much bigger than any vanilla GW sponsons, this is too a good reason why the perun looks so much better than the stubby LR...also two way sponsons are double win... it is clear that the leman russ is with such a weapon layout planned for frontal attacks and not to stay its ground...the perun is a fortress and thus needs the multi directional systems. i think in battle the perun will last many times longer than the standard leman russ...not only through it´s extra equip but mainly through multidirectional firepower... it will be pretty nasty to get into an angle to get close enough to tackle the perun...

Hence it's nickname, the Dikobraz(Porcupine). I did not like that the sponsons on the Leman Russ are limited to the 90degrees either. so many FW big tank sponsons, though single weapons, have a 120 degree arc at least.

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I think making the simplest legs works for steam punk

funny i measured the steamtan too today...he is 30cm long, and about 20cm give ot take wide...height i currently forgott^^

i think i should wait a bit with making a steampunk walker...what my army really needs is a transport...this would also make me able to make something not that big and a bit more true to actual size...tho still rather truescale^^

also i feel very honored that you stick to the nickname^^

So, the Steam-punk tank is a big beast! (Apocalyptic scales!)

Well, it is a good nickname, and biohazardcake went to the effort of letting us know the word for it.

definatly apocalyptic scale...as in when its barrels roar the apocalypse is at least for some starting already^^

Also, it is a superheavy clkass like the Perun, so both tanks would be good for massive point valued battles of over 3000pts or more


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can´t see at this time progress anymore, but this is just a case of not seeing the wood because of all the trees blocking the view^^...

There will be progress pics later, had to make the work on the daemon-bloodletters.

took there some pics? (me always pic hungry^^)

Pics later on. For now, is lights out and I cannot paint like that!

lol... if thats your way to say good night then... lights out!

Just have to keep the lights out as it is late and w/o lights, I cannot work on painting anything.

why have you to keep the lights out??

Claustrophobic roommate keeps his door open, and hates the light coming in if I have the lights on to paint, silly hindrance eh?

how about some sleeping shades?

It has apparently been not an option he considers.

Anyway, I do promise pics of exposed metal on rivets, and plates, as i figure the sponsons will get scratched when they push in for storage, as well as oiled on the sponsons, I will find something to be rust and or just dirt streaking down.

Btw, I have drawn some design ideas for the thread for the Ork Fighta-Bomma I will make, the Snogrot Speshul! aka Sn-87(1 thru 86 all crashed) "Snuka"

lol... that sound cool...tek`sla at its best ... er... anyway^^

have you seen a vid of how sponsons would be seen in storage status? that would be interresting, failing that pics would be nice too...

Snogrot is one of Tek' S;la's collaborators,m a mechanical oriented Big Mek where Tek' Sla does energy things!

There is a video on Youtube shows up as to how they do it. for transport of tanks and sponsons.

cool, will look that up!

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Okay, time for some wear and tear on that mighty old Perun, many years of scraping with tools and such on the boltys and other bits sticking out, boot scrapes and such, now where is exposed "metal" will also get Tin bitzed and other colors to make it look like areas neglected, and rusting. Oh the horrors!

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Well, the next step was the tin bitz added tot he silvery bits, a good dirty wash should help as well, and i do have somne salt to mix into a material to make that very pitty/corroded sensation. But for now:

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much better pics now and the weathering already looks top notch ;thumbsup
the saltthing you have planned will be amazing!

one thing so, now the treads look a shade too dark... a bit of lightening up i think with some very dry drybrushing of a fairer metalic could do then wonders...

the new bomma thread i already commented on and subscribed to already too^^ looks very promising... when will you start the actual modeling?

Next I will dry brush more clean metal, and add "mud" to the treads. I will glue patches of salt, and then paint bits of color on them. Oh this tank is shaping up sweetly!

Saw that!

Oh this tank is shaping up sweetly!

THIS to the letter!


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although dont try to lick or bite it! this will cause serious sueing on my part!^^

Almost done with it makes me all tingly!

And you just had to use that pic! Favorite idea of mine, flanked by such hotties, although i am also surrounded by my tanks!

seems a fresh cold shower is in order...only cold water please^^ (tho i admit...who would say no?^^)

Gotta stay on the tanks, stay on the tanks,,,,,,,

is that alone healthy? seems a bit of a too focused diet... needs bomma`s for a true man too^^ and the occaisional dreadknight inbetween meals...by the way... whats up on that front?

Gonna be cutting sections for the bomma later, and painting more stuff.

ok i will be off for now... maybe later on midday i will tune in and see what has been updated or not... maybe i show some progress too...

stay focused^^

cheers, mate have a good day!

vik

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these guys have distracted me from perun!~

looks as this might hurt... all shoved together... or with chaos...one could always say that this is a special formation^^?? like the screwball? (in referrence to the tortoise^^)

Viktor von Domm wrote:looks as this might hurt... all shoved together... or with chaos...one could always say that this is a special formation^^?? like the screwball? (in referrence to the tortoise^^)

LOL!

Now to see if I can make the salt and stuff mix for getting the rust and wear, maybe not this bad, but close?


This looks also a good way for me to go, with my washes and such

the washes technique is something i wanted to do too to my tank...i need to find me a vid for that tho...mere pics can´t explain it sufficiently...
and in referrence to the first pic...don´t ruin your nice paintjob by going all rusty...tho while the perun is an artefact probably it is still one that is kept working and cared for i guess with the utmost willpower to keep archeotech alive and kicking... so the imperials would not allow to get such a big fighting engine in such a bad state...that would be an instant act of heresy...

go for the total wash job and a tad rust and some salt only...

That's actually one of those things that's a bit counter-intuitive, rust on vehicles.

Often times, the most extreme looking rust is the least damaging surface rust. It's the stuff you can't see, the little spot rust, and the rust that's under the paint, that does the most damage.

Viktor von Domm wrote:the washes technique is something i wanted to do too to my tank...i need to find me a vid for that tho...mere pics can´t explain it sufficiently...
and in referrence to the first pic...don´t ruin your nice paintjob by going all rusty...tho while the perun is an artefact probably it is still one that is kept working and cared for i guess with the utmost willpower to keep archeotech alive and kicking... so the imperials would not allow to get such a big fighting engine in such a bad state...that would be an instant act of heresy...

go for the total wash job and a tad rust and some salt only...

Yeah, I do like the wash appraoch for accumulated grime better myself.

the bubble effect could be done with just paint over salt...or snad for that matter... as i recall there is a special kind of san out there... wasn´t it beach sand that has round grains?


yep, grime is much better than open rust for the perun... he can be dirty all the way, provided he gets the job he is assigned to done... rust as said before would mean heresy by the crew...*cogs boltpistol*

Well, I g\have the salt ready to get glued on and worked through, then rub it off or something like that, or leave it as part of the grime effects.

i guess both ways would do a great effect... some bubbles and some wear and tear...

Viktor von Domm wrote:i guess both ways would do a great effect... some bubbles and some wear and tear...

Why settle for just one method?

and while i was searching for a fitting pic to answer you last comment...


i came up with that:

LOL!, I do happen to have Fallout-3 as well as Fallout: New Vegas, great shooty games and such.

one day when i don´t spend to much on ebay i will try to get fallout 3 too...played all the other pc games from that line but the current ones i miss out on ....for now...

I just wish they would let me grab a tank or something on the X-box version!

there tanks involved in F3???

thuis is the big 5 by the way....

Viktor von Domm wrote:there tanks involved in F3???

thuis is the big 5 by the way....

Just wish the game had tanks.

well for that purpose you have the power armor^^

True, and add the alien weapons and I am death in the wasteland! But imagine being able to have the Perun scanned in!!! ^^

well...in the second game you could team up with 3 npc´s iirc...you`d need at least such a team setup to be not only meat in a can^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:well...in the second game you could team up with 3 npc´s iirc...you`d need at least such a team setup to be not only meat in a can^^

LOL! Oh, so as to show my tanks are still in my mind, I have metallic-painted the sabres where they needed it most.
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Of course you already know that the "factory finish" will not be long once I reach a certain point and get those girls dirtied up with mud and grime and such.


Oh yes, Perun's rusty tracks with streaks of bared metal to give that "scraped clean" look.
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That effect was inspired by seeing hosed off tractor treads that had rust, but also had that look with exposed bare metal as the rocks and sand scraped the rust off the metal shoes.

you just have to love these scratches on the sponsons...cool work matey! the tracks look now very good, the reason behind the current look is very sound! a true ancient warbeast...

Those scratches are to show she scratched the paint as they slid the sponsons into the hull for transport in tighter areas!

Muddying up the Perun now.
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Dirty!
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Gritty!
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to say the least... it is mudbacked^^

how did it come to that effect with the salt? will you peel it off then later on or is it to be staying there? looks interresting...

Viktor von Domm wrote:to say the least... it is mudbacked^^

how did it come to that effect with the salt? will you peel it off then later on or is it to be staying there? looks interresting...

I am debating the leaving it as it looks like dirt I have seen before on vehicular cases where the mud had yet to be hosed off, and it seems to have made me think that this was brilliant!

i too think it is suitable as a very thick layer of spalttered mud that reached higher ground and now clings to the face of the tank for the sheer hell of it^^

Deep mud patches it has crossed for the fight!

well it hasn´t a streak of yellow in it´s colors...so onwards ever, backwards never! (german tank slogan: vorwärts immer, rückwärts nimmer...)

Perun will do the same! it will go forwards, firing all the way

Perun will do the same! it will go forwards, firing all through

fixed that for you^^

Finally the Marauder tank is almost compete:




And this is how it was just few weeks ago

Thanks Vik!

MdM, Wow! you got a lot done!

that marauder is a sight for sore eyes^^ i think the design has definatly something to say for itself! the shape is something much more realistic and modern than the Leman Russ in a hundred years^^

A nice light tank, nothing heavier than the auto-cannon, and Heavy bolters and stormbolter

yup^^ one could easyly see a wave of these marauders storming the frontline in a big battle...like heavy cavalary...

Viktor von Domm wrote:yup^^ one could easyly see a wave of these marauders storming the frontline in a big battle...like heavy cavalary...

the dust in their wakes, the chatter of their weapons firing as they hurtle ahead.

sounds like4 a filmscene already^^

Amazing how I can do that!

Wow very nicely done marauder! I like the look ofit a lot. As said it has a more "modern" look then 40k tanks. Plus the turret just looks menacing on the tank!

Looks very nice.

That weathering is top notch!!! It looks great! Now I am sure you guys have explained it at some point durin this thread but I couldn't find it. How do exactly do the salt method? I like the results and would love to try it out!

Thanks cheers!
FireCancer

lol...welcome dear dakkaites... behold the artistic might of shasolenzabi and his dancing tanks...*whip cracks*

LOL< as if you were the ringmaster eh Vik?

I used the shield shaped citadel palette, poured some salt into one of the round paint mix areas, and then with a lot fo paint on the brush began mixing paint to the salt crystals, and then brushed it all on, as if I were smearing real mud almost!

is this supposed to work that way? i thougt you first used something like hairspry on tank, then add salt and then when dried aply paint... later have salt peeled off and reveal paint underneath...the pattern the slatcrystals make then is something the eye would take for scratches and so on...

I was using this for mud, can't afford the hairspray method.

hairspry got banned in the U.S??? or why? do you use it all up each morning for your own head?^^

hey, little suggestion, could you add a hyphon and then, say, "WIP sabre update- built treads", so then we know what's new.

as you were, gents.

Never got hairspray.

Hmmm thought about it. I may make some sort of update thingy.

i read somehwre that a guy did it with something called marmide and another did it with syrup and nutella...same technique after painting rinse the stuff off and you get the layer underneath...

Ah, here I used a modification of the GW rust technique as they love to do it all with paint.

You know looking at it now, that does look a bit odd the way that post came out.

yep, lol^^

as for the rust GW style...is there a link? mom look by myself....didn´t found it...

Sadly, it was a magazine article way back in White Dwarf Magazine.

Been watching Red Dwarf though lately, LMAO! but I do need to get back on to the tanks, all of this banter is keeping me from it all.!

too true...

Mostly worked on the Ork Fighta-Bomma, may have some other work done soon if there are still lights as painting does need more light than the scrapyard construction!

lol....talk about quality time^^