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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/21 05:29:57


Post by: Theophony


Nice haul .

A Bob Ross game. Color me interested .

All out zombie war too. I skipped it during the Kickstarter, but have only heard really good things since.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/21 05:40:48


Post by: nerdfest09


Lol Bob Ross game!!!! they'll make a game from anything nowadays!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/21 07:47:36


Post by: evildrcheese


Wow. Looks like you had an awesome time.

EDC


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/21 11:45:01


Post by: dsteingass


We did have an awesome time!

@Damo, it's actually a decent little paitning game. Bob progresses on the painting every turn, you have to collect all the right Art Supply cards, and complete that portion of the painting before Bob does. And everyone knows he can paint an entire painting in a 1/2 hour!


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I had to dive right in on Dale's RV

It's made for Mantic by Sarissa Precision in the UK. The inner frame is MDF, and then they laser-cut thick cardboard for the soft skin.
It's not exactly like Dale's TV show Winnebago, but remember, it's the comic version.



I find the wheel method pretty brilliant

And you can see it looks great after a good sanding



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The Game Rules are you have to use ladders to traverse up and down. I wanted a way for Dale to get his Lawnchair and Umbrella up there. You also have to use the doors to enter/Exit things to search and loot.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 01:43:01


Post by: dsteingass


Trimmed it up a bit



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 02:14:40


Post by: Littletower


Looks great. Glad you had a good time!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 02:26:52


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Littletower!


I think the trim gives it some improvement


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 04:56:33


Post by: Theophony


Pimp my ride zombie apocalypse style .

I hope the last season comes up on Netflix soon, I'm jonesing to get caught up on TWD.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 14:32:21


Post by: Dr H


Nice haul, Dave.
Good work on the RV. Looking good.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 14:40:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


th i always will be a fan of the ricktator...the dale van looks very good...

also...bob ross is super special... i found out about him by channel hopping and now he is one very special ...small voice in my head...

nice to see you had a good trip and lots of fun. we went to the beach and got sanded^^

(double post...)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 20:46:27


Post by: dsteingass


@Theo- Thanks- I cannot wait that long to find out what happens in either TWD or GoT- all other shows can wait

@Dr. H - Thanks! - I see someone makes an actual MDF kit of TV Dale's Winnebago


@Vik - I grew up watching him every saturday afternoon on PBS, And he has really gained a LOT of new viewers since they now stream him on Twitch. They always say dead artists are always more popular than living ones. But yes, his positivity and calming demeanor is something you never forget. Went to the beach huh? That sounds fun.




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 22:51:20


Post by: Theophony


Bob Ross is on Netflix now too

My wife and I watched an episode and our kids came in and were mesmerized by "The Happy Trees"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/22 23:28:29


Post by: dsteingass


He filmed ALL of those episodes just about 1.5 hours south of here in Muncie, IN


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@theo https://www.miniaturemarket.com/mgwd301.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm7SQ2aDs1QIV0QgqCh2nSg7SEAkYASABEgIboPD_BwE
Miniature Market has 6 left


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/23 04:59:20


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
He filmed ALL of those episodes just about 1.5 hours south of here in Muncie, IN


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@theo https://www.miniaturemarket.com/mgwd301.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm7SQ2aDs1QIV0QgqCh2nSg7SEAkYASABEgIboPD_BwE
Miniature Market has 6 left


Miniature market and mantic.....I'll give it a week and it'll go clearance .

I'll see what the wife thinks of a Bob Ross game though .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/23 20:17:16


Post by: Eilif


Brilliant work on your 'bago! Even before your additions, it looks more realistic than the "official" and after it's really quite good.

There are some nice, cheap 1/48 die cast campers out there, but nothing under $20 that has the vintage flatter-front look.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 02:55:48


Post by: dsteingass


@Eilif Thank you!

Heh, I've been looking at 1:43 (O Scale) cars, almost pulled the trigger on a plain white Kenworth Box Truck, it could be the objective of a mission, steal the truck and drive off the map! How much different would 1:48 be to 1:43?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 05:42:55


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
@Eilif Thank you!

Heh, I've been looking at 1:43 (O Scale) cars, almost pulled the trigger on a plain white Kenworth Box Truck, it could be the objective of a mission, steal the truck and drive off the map! How much different would 1:48 be to 1:43?


While I've used o scale plastruct stairs on figs and it looks great, I think 1/43 is the wrong direction to go. I picked up some 1/53 scale cars for $5-6 each from dollar general or local grocery chain Schnucks. Not only are they a great scale to the figs, they have pullback action . Also there's a bunch of die cast trucks in the 1:50 or 1:53 scale that I think would work. It's a huge chunk of table space for the models as a freight bed trailer (53') would be 1' on the table.

I just searched and thus lovely item I think would be great all Necromunda'd
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-50-Scale-Diecast-Empty-Container-Stacker-Forklift-Truck-Cars-Model-Toys-Gift/391701897302?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45729%26meid%3D7b5a3b342a4142c7b562b4d75159a448%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D253078259330&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

Wish there were extra containers to buy, buy plasticard exists for many reasons .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 06:47:13


Post by: Camkierhi


I am with Theo, the O gauge stuff is not bad, but things like doors give it away as too big. The 1:48 through 1:53 stuff is cheap and looks much more to scale against most 28mm stuff.

I have been in a cold sweat every time I walk past this at my local store, keep managing to resist.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Motor-Zone-Express-Assorted-colors/dp/B006DD49ZA/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1503556738&sr=8-8&keywords=toy+bus

It is a huge piece of terrain, but has so much potential.

It's all looking fantastic Dave, as usual the extra mile you put in is the difference between good and brilliant.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 12:24:38


Post by: dsteingass


@Theo, I too, am a bit obsessed with miniature forklifts I found this just last night, using the cheap pull-back cars found in CVS


Although, these cars are a bit too nice for the Zombie Apocalypse. You expect to see lots of older, nondescript sedans, probably because that is the kind of cars they use in the TV show as props.

@Cam, I like the Bendy Bus idea, but they are rarely seen outside of an Airport or large City Setting, not that an airport Zombie fight doesnt sound like an amazing game I can fix things like doors on buildings for scale no problem, but cars, especially die-cast, are a bit more difficult. The plastic cars and trucks that come with the terrain set, are about perfect, 4 inches x 2 inches for a pickup truck


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 12:37:47


Post by: whalemusic360


There probably arent a ton of model kits for a 2001 Honda Accord hanging around though, so that could make it a bit trickier.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 12:42:48


Post by: dsteingass


Exactly Whale! What kid wants to play with a toy of a 1998 Ford Taurus? Adults dont even want a 1:1 model

It looks like at least one German modeler found a few average-looking cars
http://www.chaosbunker.de/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/TWD_SBCars4.jpg" border="0" />
I hate how pinterest has no mechanism for finding the original source site


This guy found some at his hardware store http://gamingandshooting.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-walking-dead-all-out-war.html
believe it or not, I've seen most of these pullback cars at my local Grocery Store, I'll have to give them another look. I have a mail van I bought somewhere


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 16:17:08


Post by: Theophony


Those are similar to the ones I picked up.




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/24 20:29:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


guys... you know the key holder lego minis? get yourself one and carry it with you 24/7 ... thus while shopping you have a neat scale reference with you at all times


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 10:17:03


Post by: Scarper


Is that a 28mm scale then Vik?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 10:57:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


It's roughly the same scale, well size, but of course extremities and so on are of course not same scale as heroic scale of 40k...but it's easy, portable....any 40k mini would take a beating if you'd carry it in your trouser pocket for too lon G...even the metal ones...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 11:52:09


Post by: dsteingass


That's not a bad idea Vik! They are fairly close, as far as height.

Got some paint on the scenery set- big fan of this set for ANY wargame



I had to paint this pick-up like the first vehicle I ever owned, a 1980 Chevy Silverado in two-tone brown and beige - Rust, an integral part of ALL General Motors vehicles, will come later
The trucks are an amalgamation of Ford and Chevy full-size pick-up trucks from 1976-1986, no descript markings, but the body panels fit.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 12:02:10


Post by: Scarper


That's quick work, Dave, and a nice clean paintjob. Is this set pretty soon post-apocalypse? They do look pretty versatile - great kit!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 12:12:06


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Scarper, yeah, I have a lot of work to do still, This is how they look this morning after I wasjed the panel lines in dark grey last night. I have a lot of cleanup to do, and figure out how to paint the windows to look like they have been sitting in weather and zombie dirt for a few years. They are actually not a kit at all, just a single injection-molded piece with a hollow bottom. Well-designed.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 13:24:50


Post by: Eilif


 dsteingass wrote:
@Eilif Thank you!

Heh, I've been looking at 1:43 (O Scale) cars, almost pulled the trigger on a plain white Kenworth Box Truck, it could be the objective of a mission, steal the truck and drive off the map! How much different would 1:48 be to 1:43?


1:43 is a common scale for cas and 1:48 is a common scale for trucks. Not sure why this is, but they both work well. 1:43 is of course too big, but when you take into account the thicker proportions of gaming figs and the 3 mm of base that most have, it's actually pretty close. It's also cheap and plentiful.

1:48 is a great scale for 30mm figs. Here's what I did with a 1:48 peterbuilt toy from New Ray.

More pics here:
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2012/01/08/28mm-on-cheap-post-apocalyptic-vehicles/
I actually used it for the scenario objective in a mad max style chase convention game:
https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2012/05/03/atomic-highway-little-wars-battle/

Depending on the model, a 1:43 truck could look pretty huge, but it depends on the model. Luckly 1:48 trucks are not hard to find.

Note the white Ford Transit Connect van 5 posts above by Theopony. It is Is technically much to big for the figures. I have that model and I think it's 1:36. I also drive an actual transit connect. However, because it has the look of a larger truck it actually works quite well visually and it's size might even work better for wargaming that a properly scaled, longer, full size Transit Van.This is that kind of judgement you have to make for die cast.

As for cars, 1:43 actually varies quite a bit and is often a "box scale" where the cars fit the box rather than a precise scale.
Here's a Welly brand police cruiser. As you can see it's still a bit tall for a proper Crown Vic but it looks good next to the figures.

More pics here: https://www.chicagoskirmishwargames.com/blog/2014/12/23/chicago-police-from-tactical-miniatures/

If anyone is looking for some cheap die-cast cars and trucks, check out Menards. They have a huge selection of really afordable die-cast in 1:43, 1:48 and even some 1:50 and 1:55
https://www.menards.com/main/home-decor/menards-collectibles/train-stuff-from-menards/train-stuff/c-13318.htm?Spec_ShopByType_facet=Die-Cast

They're bulk cars are marked as 1:48 but probably range from 1:48 to 1:43 depending on model. If you have a Menards nearby they often have a big table/bin covered with boxes of individual cars (the ones that are sold in bulk online) for 3 bucks each.

A quick note about the ones from drug-stores (usually from the brand kinsmart and sold with no packaging) They are often 1:32 or 1:40 and often look too big. The modern pickup trucks are usually close to 1:48 but the cars and vintage pickups are huge.

Here's a drug-store Kinsmart Chevy pickup I repainted. It's pretty common. Unfortunately as seen next to the 28mm Grenadier fig it's way too big at around 1:32. I love the look but ended up selling it due to scale.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/25 14:04:30


Post by: dsteingass


Wow Eilif!, that is some great hobby work! I love the Mad Max game, too! I'm definitely going to check out the rest of your site! Thanks for all the great info too! I do have a few Menards here. And I agree with you about the funny scale for 28mm however, the Walking Dead game is more 30-(35mm for big guys like Abraham) scale, Even larger than Heroic, so the larger vehicles will work just fine

Rick, Abraham, and a Praetorian, and you know the Foundry-type pulp figs are closer to heroic 28mm


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I think I'm pretty much happy with the base paint jobs

Now for the fun part


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 01:55:01


Post by: Camkierhi


Nice work on the trucks.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 04:25:53


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Cam! These were really FUN to paint.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 16:15:29


Post by: Red Harvest


Nice work on the trucks. Finding vehicles in the right scale is a challenge. Too much 1:43. It works with 35mm minis, but not the 28mm-32mm minis. Finding more futuristic vehicles is even more frustrating. I only know of one place that makes things that are meant for 28mm-32mm, Antenocitis

I find it amazing that Bob Ross is still so popular so long after his passing. I remember watching his show many years ago. (like 25 years ago.) It seems he has a cult following.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 19:45:05


Post by: dsteingass


@red Thanks man! I'm gonna go shopping with a mini in my pocket at some point, meanwhile, I ordered a plain white Box truck from New Ray and Rick and Shane's Sherrif cruiser


Let there be rust!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 20:24:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


The right one looks awesome...rotten


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/26 20:34:32


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Vik!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 18:24:16


Post by: dsteingass



Zombie Truck Driver is pissed that his rig will be a Sorghum Truck


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 18:47:36


Post by: JoeRugby


I've finally got time to skim through the whole thread.

Before that just wanted to say the trucks look awesome


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 18:53:38


Post by: Scarper


That is some seriously quality weathering on those trucks! Looks real. What's your rust recipe?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 19:08:05


Post by: dsteingass


@scarper- its different for different kinds of rust, here I wanted old, brown rust, so I based it in with typhus corrosion, then overall brown wash, then Vallejo dark rust wash in the insides to make the holes appear deeper, ten highlight around the bottoms and sometimes tops of the rust spots for that little 3D effect. I could keep going with weathering powders, but I had to move on

@joerugby thanks man! Woof, that's a lot of BS to wade through


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@Eilif was right about the Kinsmart trucks, a bit large, but not too bad really. Here is Neegan in the bed of a 1956 Ford. It fits the BOX of 2x4" , but is a bit tall. I dont mind that.

The first thing I did was freeze up all of the axles and all those pull-back gears with thin CA. The last thing I want happening is it getting accidentally pulled back on the gaming table, knocking minis off the table (it's fast) I applied some liquid masking to the Peterbuilt and Ford badges, and they are all ready to prime


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 22:20:51


Post by: Littletower


Weathered trucks look awesome.

Going shopping with a mini in your pocket and bringing it out and checking for scale: great idea, though it may draw some funny looks your way,


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 22:48:40


Post by: dsteingass


We used Vik's Lego Minifig keychain idea, Wicket though


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 23:03:00


Post by: Red Harvest


What's wrong with sorghum? I hear tell it makes your coat nice and shiny...(It's a Cheers reference.)

I swear the blue and white truck is a dead ringer for a truck a friend of mine drove when we were in high school... Including the rust spots There was a gun rack in it too... with a fishing pole in lieu of a gun.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/27 23:06:00


Post by: dsteingass


Hah the brown one was painted after my 1980 Chevy pickup, the blue is after my favorite Matchbox car when I was a kid.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/28 07:09:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


 dsteingass wrote:
We used Vik's Lego Minifig keychain idea, Wicket though




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/28 22:16:27


Post by: Dr H


Nice work on the rusty trucks, Dave.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/29 01:22:27


Post by: Theophony


I just need you to paint up a crappy Volvo station wagon now. Complete with welded on tire and rust spots. I have a 1:1 version if you need pictures .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/29 20:47:54


Post by: dsteingass


heh @theo If I had a model, i'd LOVE to do that


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/29 21:36:45


Post by: Red Harvest


Well, if you do the Volvo, you need a scale model of Theo's house so you can 'park' it properly.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/30 02:31:56


Post by: dsteingass


I can handle the house part no problem, it's the volvo I'm missing ;O


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/30 02:43:45


Post by: nerdfest09


Crowdfunding begins for the Theo house and Volvo project


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/30 04:55:00


Post by: Theophony


 nerdfest09 wrote:
Crowdfunding begins for the Theo house and Volvo project

I'll take the funds and run....or walk purposely .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/30 13:34:10


Post by: dsteingass


Literally, a Grocery Getter (with groceries molded in)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-43-Minichamps-2001-2007-Volvo-V70-Pauls-Model-Art-w-Groceries-Inside-Car/192287774313?hash=item2cc53e9669%3Ag%3ArmMAAOSwlQ9Znyg0


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Back to Eilif's great point about scales

This is TV Rick and Shane's Sherrif Cruiser, with a pull-back ambuance- these are PROPER for these minis

Now look at the Ford and the Peterbuilt

The Ford is WAY too big, the Peterbuilt Box Truck is perfectly scaled. I've always wanted to just build a rusted out Ford Diorama anyways


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/30 14:47:36


Post by: Camkierhi


Could get some 1/32 guys for it, I have a bunch sitting about.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/31 16:30:47


Post by: dsteingass


Sure, you could use any number of figures. Back to the cop car and ambulance- I'm torn. Part of me wants to tear them apart and re-paint, but part of me wants to preserve the already-excellent markings, which I will NOT be able to recreate to this quality level.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/31 16:41:31


Post by: whalemusic360


Ask yourself, "does it bother me that these look more like toys and not models?". If the answer is no, then don't worry about it and move on. If it is yes, get to paintin'!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/31 16:55:54


Post by: Chamberlain


 dsteingass wrote:
Sure, you could use any number of figures. Back to the cop car and ambulance- I'm torn. Part of me wants to tear them apart and re-paint, but part of me wants to preserve the already-excellent markings, which I will NOT be able to recreate to this quality level.


You don't have to repaint to get rid of the toy texture. Youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJmh6BOeeSo

Basically some simple weathering and a matte coat will do wonders.


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Also, most of the techniques can work fine without disassembly like he did in the video.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/08/31 18:55:30


Post by: dsteingass


@champberlain that is a GREAT video! I love model RR techniques! Thanks for that!
There is another guy out there somewhere, that buys up larger scale die-cast and just makes them look like they are old rusty wrecks


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Speaking of Menard's...
Check this out
The Possibilities are endless!!!



Aisles and aisles of canned food, a Zombie Apocalypse heaven
https://www.menards.com/main/home-decor/menards-collectibles/train-stuff-from-menards/train-stuff/o-gauge-red-owl-store/p-1446860537824-c-13318.htm?tid=5935967599073975190&ipos=21


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/04 20:42:24


Post by: dsteingass


Made some progress on the truck









The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/04 22:36:56


Post by: Valhalla130


I'm loving this repurposing of toy cars thing. It's awesome.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/05 16:41:22


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Valhalla!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/05 17:58:36


Post by: Theophony


That box truck is looking awesome. Looking forward to your rusted out ford diorama.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/05 23:38:41


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Theo!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/09 21:22:05


Post by: Dr H


Good work, Dave.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/14 12:24:23


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Doc!

I've been living at work lately it seems, but I've got a couple of days off now to hopefully get something done.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/14 21:18:22


Post by: Ruglud


Hah, I know that feeling... I'm hoping this weekend brings a change of pace and some hobby time for us all


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 01:48:23


Post by: dsteingass


heh, so much for that. I had to go see the doctor today for a case of Bronchitis. THis sucks.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 13:07:32


Post by: Theophony


I get bronchitis, walking pneumonia or full pneumonia every year for the last 17 years (since I got mononucleosis right before our wedding), that ruins your immune system.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 13:32:01


Post by: dsteingass


oh man.. That sucks. I've never had mono, but growing up around farmland, every. single. time they harvested soybeans and the dust flew, I've had it every single year.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 13:52:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Here you would have up to six weeks worth of paid time away from work...go and visit the good old Germany...




Get better soon


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 18:07:08


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Vik, I'm all medicated up. Hopefully soon! Both for feeling better AND Universal Healthcare


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 19:08:51


Post by: Red Harvest


Get well soon. Just wait until you're old enough to get the nagging soft tissue injuries that take forever to heal.. :( Once you pass the big 40, your body's healing rate slows. It sucks.

Germans... geez. Only 6 weeks. You guys work too hard over there.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/16 20:31:14


Post by: dsteingass


I turn 40 next month!


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I can almost deal with the rattly chest and coughing snot out of my lungs with medication, but what I dont understand is how can my sinuses be so thoroughly clogged yet at the same time, my nose runs like a boat with a hole in it and I am sneezing like I have a legion of demons in my sinuses


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 01:17:52


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
I turn 40 next month!


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I can almost deal with the rattly chest and coughing snot out of my lungs with medication, but what I dont understand is how can my sinuses be so thoroughly clogged yet at the same time, my nose runs like a boat with a hole in it and I am sneezing like I have a legion of demons in my sinuses

Papa Nurgle is making nurgle gas like crazy in your sinuses and that's the fun part. It's when you swallow all of that and the other effects kick in where things get REALLY messy.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 02:04:42


Post by: dsteingass


well...Papa Nurgle is a dick.

I have now pried one nostril completely open through the magic of pharmaceuticals and kleenex. It feels amazing.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 10:44:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Lil tip for getting around clogged sinuses....:

press your index finger on your forehead, just above the nose...while doing so for thirty seconds press the tip of your tongue on the ceiling of your gum (?)...its some kind of acupressure and relieves the bloodswelling of your sinuses...trust me...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 11:52:31


Post by: dsteingass


lol @Vik, I wish it was that simple. I broke my nose as a young lad, as a result, I have a bit of a deviated septum in my shnoz. I actually have to massage the bridge of my nose, where my glasses sit, it creates a wet cartilage sound like the ALIENS larvae bursting from someone's chest, but it works.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 12:14:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Omg... I hope the other guy back then got it worse...

Well actually the methods described above should work nevertheless, because even with a broken nose your nerves didn't get rewired...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 14:06:20


Post by: dsteingass


Heh, the other guy was a brick wall, and I'm pretty sure it's still standing 35+ years later


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 14:16:03


Post by: Theophony


Certain things you just don't pick a fight with. Brick walls and stupid people are kind of at the top of the list.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 14:27:20


Post by: dsteingass


I honestly dont remember why I didnt or couldnt stop. I dont remember much from elementary School, but I do remember playing Red Rover on the playground and running so fast trying to break the other line's arms that I couldnt stop until my nose hit the brick. I also remember my Social Studies teacher lying to me, and kids were mean. Not much else.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 15:31:38


Post by: Red Harvest


 dsteingass wrote:
I turn 40 next month!

Get off my lawn, kid.

For sinus problems, I 've been using something called SinusBuster. It's capsacin based. It works very well. And no nasty rebound effects like some of the other nasal decongestants out there.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 16:58:29


Post by: dsteingass


I'm open to actually shoving hot pepper seeds up my damn nose if it works some days. I feel pretty good today, still have an open nostril. my chest and back muscles are so sore today from all the deep coughing though. I find myself quite irritable and cranky today, probably from the cocktail of drugs I've been taking.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 19:39:01


Post by: Theophony


 dsteingass wrote:
I honestly dont remember why I didnt or couldnt stop. I dont remember much from elementary School, but I do remember playing Red Rover on the playground and running so fast trying to break the other line's arms that I couldnt stop until my nose hit the brick. I also remember my Social Studies teacher lying to me, and kids were mean. Not much else.


In kindergarten I was swinging on the playground and the next thing I remember was waking up with flashing lights going by above me. I got hit with a rock and was knocked out in mid swing, fell off at the top of my arc and landed squarely on my noggin. Rushed by ambulance where my parents met me at the hospital.

In 6th grade I found out the rest of the story. One of the girls in my class had been held back a year (so she was a year older than me). When I was in kindergarten she was in first grade and thought I was cute. She threw the rock to get my attention as she was calling my name, but you realize a playground of 60 or so kids screaming I couldn't hear it. She must of had a good arm, because she hit me square and knocked me out.

we never got together needless to say.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/17 20:19:22


Post by: dsteingass


OMG, thanks Theo, it actually hurts my chest muscles to laugh, thanks


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/19 01:20:31


Post by: dsteingass


I kinda finished something




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/19 04:06:04


Post by: Camkierhi


That is a fantastic job, well done. Even with the Nurgling up your nostril you crank out a beauty like that!

I can see it is not quite finished, (lights etc to put on) may I be so bold as to make a couple suggestions. Tyres are too black, they could easily be new rubber, but think it would look a little better with blue/grey slightly faded tyres. And just because I am horrible, how about a "clean me" written in the dirt on the back door.

Pointing out the tyres feels sacrilegious for some reason, sorry.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/19 07:30:19


Post by: shasolenzabi


Oh big ass truck you got there Dave! and get better soon.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/19 11:38:15


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Cam, yeah, I should hit the tires with some Panzer Aces dark rubber, however, this will all be weathering Powdered up, so it'll all be covered with old dirt and grime anyway. I experimented with blown out tires on one of the SUVs, we'll see how that works. Its harder to do with these smaller rubber tires without much in the way of sidewall material to dig out with a gouging tool. The truck had removable tires too, but big trucks tend to have intact tires unless they have been torn off in onion layers like you see along the highway. Even looking at pictures of old abandoned trucks, the tires are generally intact


@Shaz, thanks! I'm doing better, the coughs are infrequent now, just clearing the occasional crap out the lungs. Antibiotics: 1 Papa Nurgle: 0



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/09/19 21:40:54


Post by: Dr H


Nice work, Dave. Truck looking good.

Get well spread lurgy soon.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 12:43:48


Post by: dsteingass


Finally finding another set of good, vintage Pioneer Speakers, I've made an important addition to the workshop, the Bureau of Beer, Music, and Contemplation area


It's been almost 1 year!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 12:57:40


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


With such an contemplation area I'd never ever get back to work
NICE


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 13:25:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Relaxing ...hmmm...it feels as if that could hamper your hobby work output...

But it looks stylish nevertheless...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 16:49:54


Post by: dsteingass


Nah, like any work, it is important to take breaks, and take them seriously


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 19:03:47


Post by: RSJake


Ahhhhhhhh! I need to get back into following threads!

Not sure if I'll actually find time though....

How the heck have you been? I will go through and see what you've been up to over the next week or so, since I don't remember where I left off.

That's a nice work area! I'm jealous!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 19:13:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Lol...thats the first self made gif I've ever seen...

Whatcha listening to there?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 19:31:46


Post by: Theophony


I need a kick my feet up space in my work area .....nope I’d fall asleep and never get anything done.

Ice Cube


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 20:08:25


Post by: dsteingass


@Jake - Yeah me too! I've been horrible about reading people's threads too, no worries man! I'm good!

@Vik- that is the 25th Anniversary reissue of Ice Cube's Death Certificate, his first solo album after he left NWA........the real problem here is that it's been 25 YEARS! and WE ARE OLD!!

@Theo, I've been looking for the perfect chair for here for quite awhile, finally saw this at a weird, ecclectic used furniture store yesterday and bought it immediately. It's very, very comfortable, makes you comfy while your back is upright and supported.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 20:35:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


There was never any hazy confusion about age...come Sunday I am 43!......

Curiously any for of hip hop/ rap music never did it for me...i am all rock...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 20:46:34


Post by: dsteingass


Happy Birthday Vik! I'll be 40 in a couple weeks!

lol, whenever the old, white, and pseudo-religious in America try to villify, ban, or rally against something...anything...it has always made it that much more attractive to people. We were so isolated geographically here in the early 90s, and our News has always been selective, that the Gangsta Rap actually gave us NEWS that we didnt hear anywhere else about the militarization of the Police force in Central LA and in other cities, and how it affected people who were deliberately marginalized. Also, 3 corporations owned ALL of the radio stations, so all we ever heard was the same 13 or 14 Rock songs over, and over, and over again on the Radio.. People wanted something new. I still cant stand Lynrd Skynrd AT ALL, just because i think I've literally heard it more often than my own Mother's voice growing up.

Cube was one of the most outspoken at the time, and he made a point back then that still hasnt been answered "Our Communities have Crack Cocaine from South America and AK-47s From Russia, and none of us have Passports"


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as for GIFs, I make these little loops of the dog all the time



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 22:48:45


Post by: Theophony


Well being the oldest of us three at least (43 back in July) I feel it’s my place to wish you whipper snappers a happy birthday . I will make celebratory brownies on Sunday in Viks Honor.

I’d make a GIF of the cat we inherited from grandma, but unless it ran for a few hours there would be no movement.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 23:06:04


Post by: Dr H


You all make me feel young as I recently officially and undeniably became nearer 40 than 30 (without needing to round up a 5).

Nice set up Dave.
Although I prefer my 5.1 setup, to fully surround me with music and drown out the tinnitus.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/05 23:45:02


Post by: dsteingass


Ugh, Doc, I'm so sorry. Tinnitus would drive me nuts. I know you get used to it, but it doesn't seem easy or fun. How else do you cope?

I like my music analog, Completely flat and balanced as mixed on the master, no EQ or other nonsense
But of course, 1/3 of my music collection is old Jazz records. And Rudy VanGelder took many of his recording secrets to his grave with him. Technology will forgotten by time. Very 40K. He did things with 1950s equipment that many today still can't do.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 00:38:24


Post by: Dr H


 dsteingass wrote:
Ugh, Doc, I'm so sorry. Tinnitus would drive me nuts. I know you get used to it, but it doesn't seem easy or fun. How else do you cope?
It's not too bad. I've had it since I was about 20. Listening to portable music players (from before the time of AVLS) at full volume will do it. I like to feel my music...

If there's background noise that I can concentrate on, then I don't notice it. It's still there and I can hear it if I think about it. It's a constant, so I'm used to it being there.
The only major problem is when it's quiet, and I notice/remember it.
Doesn't keep me awake or anything. But there will never be any silence, or silent moments for me.

The main problem is the associated hearing loss. Especially in the mid-range (y'know where everyone's voice tends to be). Not to the point that I can claim to be deaf, but I often have to ask people to repeat things they say. Mild hearing loss, on top of mild tinnitus, on top of mild dyslexia... can mean I don't always catch what people say.

I like my music analog, Completely flat and balanced as mixed on the master, no EQ or other nonsense
But of course, 1/3 of my music collection is old Jazz records. And Rudy VanGelder took many of his recording secrets to his grave with him. Technology will forgotten by time. Very 40K. He did things with 1950s equipment that many today still can't do.
Nowt wrong with any of that.
I've always tweaked my music. My first portable cassette player had EQ-like sliders on the front... I think they were Treble, Bass and More Bass. I liked my bass.
And I spent more time that I care to admit tweaking the EQ on my first Hi-Fi to get it to sound the way I liked.
Since I upgraded to 5.1, I've spent hours fiddling with those settings too.
But then, the bulk of my music is more on the electronic side of things (but I have broadened to encompass most genres):
Recent CD haul included, Goldfrapp, The Orb, Sub Focus, Queens of the Stone Age, and Placebo.
For example.

Different ways of approaching things.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 00:54:24


Post by: dsteingass


This 1986 Carver 900 Receiver I'm using down here has a stupid amount of power, like 160 Watts/channel max, so I don't dare use any old speakers with it. It'll bump when I want it

My BEST rig is upstairs though, with the main system


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 01:10:17


Post by: Camkierhi


You young whippersnappers. got several years on the lot of you.

Happy Birthday just in case I manage to forget.

You see with my nice little derail last year I gained short term memory loss like an SOB, can't remember squat that happened 5 minutes ago. Oh and old age (47) has played another trick on me, noticed it over the last few months and recently had it medically confirmed, got a declining deafness in both inner ears, in particular I too struggle with speech, but for me the biggy is I can't hear bird song. I love music, of all kinds. I believe it is a mood thing, but have noticed I am missing bits now.

I personally believe that different genres have different equipment, Classical or Vangelis are best over a decent computer, the clarity is important, but there are whole decades that require a vinyl record. I am not quite so blessed as you Dave, but I am not far away. I am disgusted to admit I do not own a proper turntable any more.

Love the GIFs of Bean, awesome stuff,got to say though, did not expect to see those shoes, maybe outside, but in the den surely the purple carpet slippers!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 01:13:25


Post by: Dr H


Nice. I currently have Sony system that used to be one of my older brother's, that has 100W per channel and an active Sub'. It's sufficient.

Sadly, people would complain if I used it like I want to. I mean, just get your own and drown out my noise...


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 Camkierhi wrote:
...in particular I too struggle with speech, but for me the biggy is I can't hear bird song.
Bird song is typically above the frequencies I've damaged, so I can hear them. Although they still compete with the tinnitus.

... Classical or Vangelis...
I have albums of both (albeit one is a genre) of those too, to mix in with the above. Both work well in surround.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 01:53:48


Post by: Red Harvest


Nearly 40, 43,43 and approaching 40. You kids...
Wait 'til you hit the half century mark. Seriously, wait, as long as you can. It. Sucks.

Nice rig there, Dave, but you're missing a beer fridge. I've got my old Fischer speakers ( from the early '80's) on my main worktable. They are about 5' away on either side of me, and at ear-level, when I sit to paint. Still sound great. I rarely hook up my turntable though. I've found that making a digital recording of the LP and playing the wave file, or even an MP3*, through my laptop into a kenwood mini HiFi setup and then out to the speakers works very well. No equalizer either. I can't be bothered to fiddle with the darn things. I've often wondered if one of those external DACs would improve things... Of course, making that digital recording can be interesting...

That chair, it reminds me of a print ad for some sound system...



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 02:55:15


Post by: dsteingass


@red LMAO, OMG, YES!


was that subconscious? A childhood dream unconsciously realized?

@Cam- haha I had just hauled the chair and footstool down the stairs

@Doc that may be a blessing, Robins can be really loud and annoying in the mornings no, seriously, I'm sorry about that.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 13:15:04


Post by: Dr H


 dsteingass wrote:
@Doc that may be a blessing, Robins can be really loud and annoying in the mornings
Bah, just drown them out with loud music.

no, seriously, I'm sorry about that.
No worries. It's self inflicted so can't really complain. *shrugs*

Speaking of a new setup, do you have a go-to test tune to check that everything is working as expected?

I use The Chemical Brothers - Under the Influence.
It has a nice bass sweep that's good to find things that will resonate, and it has clear mids and delicate highs that are good to tell if each frequency range is without interference from each other and to test that the speakers can reproduce each clearly together and separately.
You Tube doesn't really do it justice (I play it direct from CD at room-vibrating volume), but you'll get the idea:



I'll then try a few other genres but that's always the first track I play.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 13:17:05


Post by: dsteingass


I have a handful of albums I use for testing, but first is always a Mono copy of Miles Davis Kind of Blue. That's my benchmark.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 13:49:20


Post by: Dr H


Nice!

Right, time to go back to modelling... So much to do, so little time..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 13:52:03


Post by: dsteingass


This is all I have to show


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 19:26:24


Post by: Red Harvest


Dave, don't you have a circle cutter? That base looks a bit ragged. Is it foamcore?

Kind of Blue? I approve. Although my favorite LP from 1959 is actually Take Five.

I wish I had been able to see Miles in his prime in concert. A genius, he.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 19:35:39


Post by: dsteingass


oh, that's just a working base I cut from some PVC foam, so I dont mess up the stock base while painting and modeling. I just traced the stock oval. Its just rough cut, no sanding or anything.

So many great albums from 58/59. I just know how every single note is supposed to sound on Kind Of Blue


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/06 22:20:25


Post by: Red Harvest


Those really were the days... for good jazz anyway. Not so long ago I was watching a program on the Japanese International Channel NHK-- "Mark of Beauty" IIRC. The background music, "Flamenco Sketches". So at least one person in Japan knows

Your photo reminds me that I need to convert my sentinels into something that I can use for other games. So much hobbying, so little time for it.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/07 00:12:36


Post by: dsteingass


Dude, most of the Original Pressings of those records are now in the hands of big-time Japanese Collectors. It's HUGE there. I met a Japanese record Tourist at Jazz Record Mart in Chicago when it was still open. He was digging in the old gold, and he said he only collects records after the artist was dead. He never bought them when the artist was alive. nice guy.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/07 21:57:51


Post by: Dr H


You got legs, do you know how to use them?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/07 22:17:37


Post by: dsteingass


heh. The paintjob I'm planning for this may be the most involved single miniature I've ever painted.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/07 22:19:36


Post by: Dr H


Sounds good. Always nice to push yourself every now and then.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 04:59:31


Post by: dsteingass


Knight Time is the Right Time








Gonna need many, many more light coats of this thinned translucent red, maybe mix in a bit of gloss medium on later coats


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 05:13:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Whoa...looks wicked already...
But where the different shades before really that needed when the red will dominate later on everything?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 05:18:07


Post by: Camkierhi


Stunning. Nuff said.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 05:28:43


Post by: dsteingass


@vik I'm working with transparent red, it'll never cover the other colors below it, just tint them. The green shows up as the darkest shadows

@cam, thanks man


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 08:09:33


Post by: Klaus, not Santa


Amazing!
I really like the technique - even though very time consuming - as it keeps the metallic effect and "simply" tints the structure.
AWESOME


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 12:19:14


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Klaus! It's really not that time consuming actually getting the pre-shading done, it'll be time consuming with all the red layers.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/12 13:25:34


Post by: Theophony


Dave’s been watching those motorcycle shows where they go through the steps of painting the ghost flames on motorcycles and doing the candy coatings. Well done. Should be a real treat, especially if all of the knights and support mechs are done the same.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/13 02:29:11


Post by: dsteingass


@theo- no, but that sounds interesting, I actually bought the Forge World Horus Heresy Masterclass book, and wanted to try it out. I find it best to try new, unproven techniques with whatever paints on hand on a $165 model


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/13 18:52:10


Post by: whalemusic360


I had such a rollercoaster of thoughts on those WiP pics.
"Ok, silver, nothing crazy.
Pre-shaded some red, guess he wants it really red
Blue? Is he going for a GK armor look?
Green?! This is going to look terrible!
Oh, now it looks really good. Just enough variation to add shades of red."

Should have never doubted.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/14 21:00:22


Post by: Dr H


Smashing job on the reds. Works really well.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/15 02:36:18


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Whale and Doc!

Some progress


I'm liking it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/15 12:37:01


Post by: Theophony


Beautiful, too bad it’s going to get all shot up


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/15 13:02:45


Post by: dsteingass


Actually, no, I dont think I am going to battle damage this one up. At least not too much. It'll just be a cold-blooded infantry elimination machine and transport vehicle recycler.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/15 13:45:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Since it is directly linked to the adeptus mechanics it should be well maintained...after all, if they don't look properly after their stuff, who the?

Btw looks amazing...the many coats worth of work really paid of!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/15 14:10:39


Post by: Ramos Asura


Oooooof.... Thats damn pretty, dave. Such rich colors!

How are you planning on finishing it? Gloss on the armor? over the whole thing? matte? That candy coat looks preeeetty sharp glossy


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/16 09:37:00


Post by: Valhalla130


That looks amazing. Come paint my car, Dave.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/16 11:43:22


Post by: Theophony


 Valhalla130 wrote:
That looks amazing. Come paint my car, Dave.


That would be REALLY expensive given the cost of GW paint


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/18 22:24:23


Post by: dsteingass


O/T, but this is the 1:1 project I've been working on today

Before


After


nothing fancy, but my Wife's Birthday Present is installed, the new dishwasher. The Birch Butcher Block countertop needs the finishing done, that will take many coats and many sandings, and then many coats of Spar Urethane, then I want to add a tile (or maybe stainless steel?) backsplash, and finally hang the magnet strips I got for my kitchen knives, then there are pot lights for overhead. There is no reason my Food Prep area is not as well-equipped as my model prep area


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/19 09:12:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Fully with you on the kitchen front...it needs to be equipped as anything else...the right tools for the right job...i dunno why birch was used...a nice walnut or cherry wooden look I think would have looked better together with the wall and the cupboard ? Also, while I totallysee why a steal backsplash would be the pinnacle of hygiene...tiles would look more stylish...but my views might be clouded from upbringing here...what are the other copies in the kitchen of yours? Chairs and table and such things?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/19 12:35:46


Post by: dsteingass


Birch was used, because that is all that was available locally. This section of the kitchen will be the beta for the rest of the kitchen remodel eventually, so you can ignore the wall color, like the rest of the house, it all had a sloppy coat of what I call "Flip it tan" on everything before we bought it. Cherry or Walnut would have been an expensive special order. All the old cabinets are a dark walnut stain. I know white kitchen cabinets are now the trend, but I don't care, I don't want to spend the rest of my life cleaning cabinets. The people who own those magazine kitchens never ever cook, and therefore never make a mess. i do. A lot.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/19 13:24:28


Post by: Camkierhi


Good solid work bud, totally with you, kitchen most important room in the house. Personally like the mixing of timbers, just all has a nice warm feel to it.

For the splash back have you considered glass. Stainless is ok, but takes maintainance to look good, tiles are durable, but the grout is a pain after a few years. Look into putting toughened glass. easy wipe, stain resistant and if you are feeling fancy you could do something on the wall behind the glass that will be seen through it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/21 22:45:49


Post by: dsteingass


I've seen the glass tiles, and yeah I heard you can paint behind them for crazy effects. I dunno. Let me get through this project first. I bought a Random Orbital Sander (the excuse I needed to buy myself a birthday tool) and took off the water-based stain, it looked horrible the next day, like BAD. and I used some scrap block from these hobby benches to try out different finishes. I'm going all the way on this one, totally committed

in Hindsight Vik, I wish I'd bought a different wood with more varied wood tones, but I have work to do to make these boards stand out. This will teach me how to finish a softer hardwood properly.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/21 23:31:08


Post by: Ruglud


Just coming off the back of a kitchen remodel / refresh myself so I know what you're about to go through... Although we did go with gloss white this time - those shiny magazine covers won us over finally Plus it makes our kitchen so much more bright and fresh, but we have a lack of natural light in there as it's in the middle of the house with no outside windows to let the light in ! Not so bad to keep clean either. We'd had the dark wood (original kitchen), beech wood effect and now gloss white. Next time I'm thinking a fresh oak may be on the cards, but that's a good 15+ yrs away (unless we happen to move before then)

BTW, that red carapace is glorious


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/22 01:01:07


Post by: shasolenzabi


Nice work on the knight, and well that 1:1 project went very well.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/23 15:43:36


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys!


Isn't it good? Norwegian Wood.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/23 17:46:02


Post by: Red Harvest


And it gets better looking with age Best pad sander I ever owned, and still do, is my 1/4 sheet Porter Cable. The thing is a warrior.

I installed a dishwasher once. Man what a PITA. Getting the thing levelled... so rage inducing. I hope you had a frustration free experience.

Ah Vik, cherry would be way too soft. Walnut, although gorgeous, is not something I would use because it is a bit soft too, and has the oils in it. Turns one fingertips purple sometimes when one works with it. Dave made a good choice here.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/10/23 21:28:38


Post by: Littletower


QFT:

 dsteingass wrote:
people who own those magazine kitchens never ever cook, and therefore never make a mess. i do. A lot.


Love the woodwork,

And for the backsplash, agree with Cam, glass all the way. No tiles (those would still need grouting, and that's a long term pain in the neck, speaking from my own kitchen counter in this), one glass panel stuck to the (prepainted, single colour or some fancy design, your choice) wall. Very resistant too when it lays flat (very important, this!) against a wall too.

And there was something else I wanted to mention...

Ah, yes: Knight is looking gorgeous.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/13 20:44:48


Post by: ender502


the whole thing... Over the last week and a half I went through the entire thread.

great work.

ender502


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/15 23:36:04


Post by: dsteingass


No Way @ender! That is insane!! did any of the photos even work from the Photobucket days? I appreciate the love man! I haven't been doing much lately, but I pre-ordered all the New Necromunda stuff, that should get me active again. The endless stream of Space Marine crap was only pushing me away from it all. I want to paint some 54mm Vietnam models and take them to a game and call them Primaris Catachans, just to show how the irony of it all.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/16 00:47:04


Post by: ender502


 dsteingass wrote:
No Way @ender! That is insane!! did any of the photos even work from the Photobucket days? I appreciate the love man! I haven't been doing much lately, but I pre-ordered all the New Necromunda stuff, that should get me active again. The endless stream of Space Marine crap was only pushing me away from it all. I want to paint some 54mm Vietnam models and take them to a game and call them Primaris Catachans, just to show how the irony of it all.


There were about 80 pages in the middle where the images didn't work. The beginning and end were fine though.

I can't get enough necromunda (GW's best IMO) so it was fun for me. You do great work. Pleas ekeep it up.

ender502


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/16 21:39:45


Post by: dsteingass


I'm pretty excited for Munda myself. I like that the boxed game is designed as the intro, 2-player learning system, then the Gang War book is used for all the classic height rules and such. If it plays anything like the old, it'll be worth it to learn the rules fairly well before getting too multi-level. I see it as a progressive system, and that's good. I think GW is on the right track. I dont get into AOS, but I think I se that system over there too with the large variety of OOB games lately.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/16 23:10:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i am hyped too and i already ordered my copy of the underhive...
also...a start collecting set of the scions...to make my own arbites...because i can“t wait for Gw to make them...and then i have an idea to make some techno redemptionists with skitarii...so...my schedule for the upcoming weeks is set^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/16 23:33:05


Post by: dsteingass


That sounds amazing Vik! Some fun shall be had! Your boys should be getting about old enough to learn the rules eh?
I have a minty get started Skitaari box too


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/11/17 05:48:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


My boys are ripe for starting tabletop already...my hobby adhd and the inability of mine to get (read and understand) the rules by me...are the hindrance it took so long...they play a self made 'munda variant with Lego minis for quite some time already^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/11 15:03:43


Post by: dsteingass


Well, OK, these Eschers are not easy to paint But I'm working on them. Too embarrassed to show WIP at this awkward stage.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/11 16:29:02


Post by: Viktor von Domm


my stuff is all looked through , but the last weeks have been really 1:1 building and restoration intensive so that only yesterday i have cleaned my complete work desk...and now i am able to start building...

but i don“t know what to start with... a whole imperial sector worth of terrain...the new comp entry...or start building gangs...(even here i have three choices...escher, goliath or arbites made from scions...)...decisions, decisions...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/11 21:30:54


Post by: dsteingass


You'll have more gangs over the next year. You need gangs painted, to learn the boardgame, so you can learn the real game with falling and such At least that's my thinking.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/11 21:55:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so gangs it is then...i just remembered i got a box worth of old plastic goliath and orlocks from Theo and CAM too...so no excuses probably i need to get painting^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/11 23:03:11


Post by: Dr H


You of all people, Dave, should know that all models go though a "oh my god it's hideous" stage.

It's good to know this for those new to modelling, it's that stage that puts people off from finishing their models.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/12 01:11:24


Post by: dsteingass


These ladies definitely have a bit of Slaneesh corruption going on, so many spikes on the clothing! I've actually drawn blood


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/12 03:28:15


Post by: Camkierhi


Having to hold on the munda stuff, high hopes for Christmas day, would love to see some pics though.

My paint jobs always look hideous, right up to the point I strip them back to bare plastic!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/12 04:18:31


Post by: dsteingass


I dunno, I think I forgot how to figure paint. Cant I get by by just painting rust on terrain?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/16 23:14:03


Post by: Dr H


You can also paint rust of figures...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/24 02:34:32


Post by: dsteingass


Merry Christmas!

Sheeter was Full


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/24 15:43:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Lol....merry merriness to you all too!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/25 16:15:18


Post by: dsteingass


Cheers Vik!

Santa Brought me the Lego Old Fishing Store, and beardcare products. I'm young and old all at the same time


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/25 18:04:10


Post by: Valhalla130


Merry Crimmus all!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2017/12/26 12:47:02


Post by: Red Harvest


 dsteingass wrote:
I dunno, I think I forgot how to figure paint.

One stroke at a time, my friend. One stroke at a time.

Hey. I'm talking about painting. People with such vivid, and dirty, imaginations...

Enjoy the bounty from Santa. I did buy some Legos for myself a few years ago. Not as a toy, mind you, but for using as molds and forms for scratch-building. Yep. That's why.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/12 18:59:55


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


I'm looking forward to seeing what you wind up doing w/ the new Necromunda scenery once you get to it.

Nice 1:1 conversion in the kitchen.

And can't resist doing this:



"from humble beginnings"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/14 13:06:17


Post by: dsteingass


Thank Skalk! Its great to see you man! Thanks for the kind words! I appreciate it.

I haven't touched a brush in a couple of weeks now. It seems like I've been living at work. I have a couple of days off now, and no video games or other easy distraction is interesting me, so hopefully I'll get something done. TBH, the Eschers are a bit intimidating to paint. All the little straps and spikes make it seem like you'll be going back and cleaning up perpetually., never ending.

As for the terrain, I've already got some ideas to turn extra bulkheads into larger structures. This Month's White Dwarf released a spires scenario that I feel Necromunda was made for, terrain is set up with lots of towers and walkways, with a central, highest tower in the middle. High Ground wins. But I still need to play a few games with the flat box set to learn the rules. It's like homework you have to do before getting to the fun 3d game.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/14 15:48:36


Post by: Red Harvest


Tall buildings sound like an excellent idea. A few really tall spires, like 15"+ tall, would make a great looking table.

Try painting a few Infinity minis if you like lots of little details

Also, head over to Cam's thread and wish him well. The lad took a bit of a tumble.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 15:14:32


Post by: dsteingass


Let's see if I can still make some lovely filth...

Salt over Badger Stynlrez Red Brown Primer


Experimental Sprues


Dry hatch


This was my favorite to paint


More Dry Rust


Weather exposing old Government Green


Dry Government Green

I think I may be a bit...rusty


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 15:18:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Seems to me you didn't loose any know how at all...

Working on spruce tho is too daring for my taste...but your effects look very cool!

Also, nice to see you back working with stuff that really matters


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 15:30:25


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Vik! My soul needs it methinks.

I'm going to see if I can repeat the scratched paint layer effect again and if so, I'll do a tutorial. I use a nylon brush to scrape away the not quite dry top coat of paint.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 17:33:10


Post by: CommissarKhaine


That's looking amazing! Would love a tut on the scraped paint


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 18:23:42


Post by: RandyMcStab


Yes me too, not heard of that before. Fantastic results.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/01/31 23:22:50


Post by: lone dirty dog


Been a while but saw this and had to say some real stunning work Dave, I would say you have gotten better if anything that’s some nice realistic looking weathering.

The rust actually looks textured don’t know how you did it but you did and did it well, also hats off on the scratched technique that is impressive if you do a tutorial on that I am going to have to see it.

Now I have to go and get a set of those damn bulkheads sprues cheers Dave


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/01 02:03:56


Post by: Camkierhi


Amazing work, still a master sir, truly magnificent mucky work.

I have also messed about with acetone on a cotton bud, be careful but gives a great worn effect.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/01 05:04:38


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


That's excellent work.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/01 16:45:55


Post by: Dr H


Good work, Dave. Very much does the job.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/03 13:41:16


Post by: dsteingass


Viktor von Domm wrote:Seems to me you didn't loose any know how at all...

Working on spruce tho is too daring for my taste...but your effects look very cool!

Also, nice to see you back working with stuff that really matters


Thanks again Vik! I can get to work, no problem. I'm finding it hard to actually finish anything.

CommissarKhaine wrote:That's looking amazing! Would love a tut on the scraped paint


Thanks, I hope to work on something soon.

RandyMcStab wrote:Yes me too, not heard of that before. Fantastic results.


Thanks, It was an accidental discovery.

lone dirty dog wrote:Been a while but saw this and had to say some real stunning work Dave, I would say you have gotten better if anything that’s some nice realistic looking weathering.

The rust actually looks textured don’t know how you did it but you did and did it well, also hats off on the scratched technique that is impressive if you do a tutorial on that I am going to have to see it.

Now I have to go and get a set of those damn bulkheads sprues cheers Dave


Thanks LDD! Good to see you man! - The secret to that is just Typhus Corrosion, its the color of steel rust with a little bit of fine pumice mixed in for texture.

Camkierhi wrote:Amazing work, still a master sir, truly magnificent mucky work.

I have also messed about with acetone on a cotton bud, be careful but gives a great worn effect.


Thanks! No chemicals here, just manipulation of acrylic layers. I spray water while still wet to diffuse the paint and give that faded look. If you're lucky, it'll create a nice pattern.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:That's excellent work.


Thanks Skalk! Appreciate it!

Dr H wrote:Good work, Dave. Very much does the job.

Thanks Doc!

Maybe today I'll get to this. I got the salt and everything ready last night, but didnt get started yet.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 11:15:34


Post by: lone dirty dog


He up Dave, without sounding dumb ( not an uncommon aspect of my life ) when you say pumice do you get it in a sand type form ?

I only ask because I have only ever seen it in a stone form for removing dead skin, so I am wondering if you can purchase it as more sand based product or did you grind down a stone.

So basickly you mix the paint and sand together then you just paint the mix onto a model, is there any issue with it while painting it on to the model ?



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 14:44:51


Post by: dsteingass


Hey LDD,
Pumice is a common mineral used in art supplies and home products for texture. Its a soft, porous volcanic rock. It is used in ladies' beauty products like face scrubs (and some Men's, I have a beard scrub with pumice) for what they call "exfoliation". That is a fancy marketing term for "sanding- the grit just scrubs the dead layer of skin off of your face, aka, it sands your face, makes it feel fresh.

Even in fine art supplies, you can get pumice infused paint for medium grit, and even Marble Dust (probably a by-product of countertop making and such in modern industry) Like these texture pastes

The Liquitex paste is made with Marble Dust, this will make you scale desert sand or snow it is so fine (and its the same thing you get in a little pot of hobby-industry snow or sand effect) its that fine
The Chromacryl is made with pumice dust, so it has a more course texture than marble dust.
These both have a polymer medium, so it dries in clumps, rather than a nice smooth acrylic paint medium.

If you had some powder somehow ground from a stone (it would have to be done with a harder tool than the stone) you could absolutely mix it with paint.
It would be easier with some pre-made dust, but I havent tried this.

GW's Typhus Corrosion is an acrylic paint medium, somewhat metallic, with a very little bit of pumice dust already mixed in, so when it dries, you see a slight bit of texture in it, like real rust.

All of their Texture paint is just paint mixed with a polymer medium, and for about $2 more than a tiny 12mL self-drying pot of GW , I can buy this giant, 473 mL lifetime supply of paste, and mix my own paint into it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 21:51:33


Post by: Dr H


Don't read this...

...read this ..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 21:54:08


Post by: dsteingass


A Tutorial
For Rusty, Grungy, Industrial Metal.
by: Dave Steingass


I live in the Midwest, United States. A part of the country known as the "Rust Belt" As a result, there is a lot of old industrial stuff exposed to the elements. When people stop maintaining this equipment, I've always been fascinated by the way it looks. In My Underhive, it looks a lot like "Abandoned Industrial Town, Anywhere, USA", a shining testament to the industrial age, some say.





Old Industrial metal is often rusted, and rust often leaves parts of the paint as it slowly takes over. Its always random, or it tells you where moisture has been accumulating.

1: Prime the plastic your base rust color. I used Badger Stynylrez Red Brown Primer. Let this dry completely.

2. Gather a brush, some standard table salt, water, and something to catch salt, this will make a mess.


3. Using water, Paint where you'd like rust to be. In the real world, rust is random, or tells you where moisture has settled.


4. For this tutorial, I am using parts on a sprue for ease of painting. This will work on a full model too, just do one section at a time. As much as you are comfortable doing at once. Don't hurry.
Sprinkle salt on the water.


5. After most of the water is absorbed (give it a few minutes) shake off the excess in your pan. You can reclaim wet salt all day and reuse it, but NEVER reclaim salt that has been painted. Finish the part/section/sprue side.




6. Go have a pint. Don't touch it until its dry.


7. Gather your airbrush, and some base layers. I am using government green (russian green) and Blue for my basecoats. I always use a drop or two of Vallejo Flow Improver, paint, and a drop or two of water, then i stir it all up in the brush cup with an old brush. Works for me every time YMMV


8. Paint the base color over the rust primer, salt and all


9. For the top coats, I am using Badger Minitaire Dusty Ground, and Vallejo Air UK Azure. I dont know if the colors are as important here as is that the colors MUST be of different VALUE in brightness as the bottom layer. You need CONTRAST between bottom coat and top coat. Light/Dark.
Paint them over the top.



[u]DO NOT HAVE A PINT - not now anyways, you MUST begin the next step before the topcoat dries!!![u]

10.This is a nylon cleaning brush. Its just a brush, with nylon bristles, nothing fancy. Any brush that IS NOT harder than the GW Plastic should work. I would not recommend a brass or metal brush, it would be harder than the plastic. An old toothbrush, a scrubbing brush, I'd imagine a variety of bristle sizes would make this look even better.



WITHOUT WETTING THE PAINT -Scrub the salt off of the plastic Over a trash basket, this is the messy part. DO NOT RECLAIM THIS SALT


11. Now, we want to spray our part with WATER, just plain old water. I just use my airbrush. While the part is wet, take your scrub brush and go crazy! Making sure to scrub in all directions, especially on the edges! Scratches, gouges, chips, just let it all happen!




12. This is just a cheap set of wire/nylon brushes, You can use any metal thing you want.
Make scratches, gouges, go nuts! Dont be afraid to spray it again and again, you'll start to see the water dissipate the paint and make cool patterns layered over the scratches.



13. NOW we get to go have another PINT!

Let this dry.

14. For washes, This is what I'm using.

Everyone knows that nuln oil is magic, well Vallejo Oiled Earth wash IS Nuln Oil, and a lot more economical!
Vallejo Light Rust, Rust, and Dark Rust washes, and GW Typhus Corrosion (I decant them into dropper bottles- it is NOT sold this way)

15. Start with the Nuln Oil wherever there is any plate-on-plate action, go easy, just a shadow. If you water down the nuln oil, let it seep into your scratches and cracks for shadow too.


16. I do rust washes LIGHT to DARK
Starting with Light Rust


Dont be afraid to RUB the light rust into your scratches and cracks. It's oK to remove paint with this technique.


17. Medium Rust wash is used for all of the rivets and bolts!


18. Dark Rust is used on any deep dents like bullet holes, or wherever metal has been torn or sheared. Also in the center of large splotches.


19. After Three washes, you're ready for ANOTHER PINT

This allows the washes to dry.

20. Finally, we go in with the Typhus Corrosion in the very center of large splotches and ESPECIALLY on the EDGES of the plates that have been torn or sheared off (the metal would rust there more rapidly with no paint to protect it)



If you followed the included drinking steps, you should be feeling pretty good about your accomplishment right about now.
There is no wrong way to do this, and I'd LOVE to see how yours turns out!


Happy Underhiving!




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 22:11:11


Post by: Dr H


I always approve of tutorials that encourage beer.

Nice tutorial.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 22:32:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


while all of the tut is something you can bet i will try...i have to ask the devils advocate question: might you feel that jolly about all the underhive accomplishments due to the two pints?...never mind...

looks so damn cool...the most terrifying step probably is the brush works... here i will have the most hesitation to ruin something from the before done work...but faith...must be uphold


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 22:43:45


Post by: Camkierhi


Thank you Dave, true guru stuff going on here folks.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 23:45:36


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys! Much appreciated!

@Vik - 3 mates, pint.

You know, I never really weathered the tower....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/04 23:53:46


Post by: Ruglud


Superb tutorial and rust effects. These pieces look great and are perfect for the underhive IMHO


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/05 00:32:49


Post by: Valhalla130


Bestrust tutorial I've seen yet. You're a maniac, Dave!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/05 04:54:55


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks a lot guys! This was a lot of work I'm glad you liked it.




I am NOT a great figure painter, but this as a backdrop makes even my paintjobs look gooder.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/05 11:29:00


Post by: lone dirty dog


Nice tutorial Dave going to have to try the nylon brush effect out on some grot tanks, also thanks for the pumice dust break down going to check out some art stores for this stuff now.

Also that blue works great as a contrast to the rust.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/05 13:50:01


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks LDD, yeah the green doesn't look as good, but I didnt want to lighten the topcoat green enough to contrast. it works next to the blue, but not so much by itself. its all about contrast rather than color.

When I made my tut into a Dakka Article, I found this article about the different Vallejo Pumice products
https://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Vallejo%20Pumice%20Comparison


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 13:48:32


Post by: dsteingass


News From the Town Spire:
Forge World throws in the Necromunda Ring with some Hired Guns!


and I like my rust better


oooh, i also see a Gor, Half-horn, Sanctioned bounty-hunter

I know the Imperium is racist, and xenophobic, but It's good to see a beastman in 40k Imperial lore.
The fluff even says Hive Primus has a spire where abhumans and xenos are permitted for trade purposes.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 15:26:32


Post by: Camkierhi


Interesting how all these little extras are coming out, I have been looking all over at many different models, so much possibility.

I know GW get a bad rep, but to be honest I think IMHO they are amazing and have given us all so much. These Forge World models will probably be extortionately expensive, but in real term I honestly feel they are not. I could spend £100 or more on a Saturday night out on the beer, wake up the following day with a head ache and having had no real fun at all. Spend £100 in GW and you have months and months of fun and games, add a little imagination, and the challenge of trying to emulate great work like your rust, and it takes it to another level. Money well spent.

Agree BTW your rusty look is better, not sure what has happened to GW/Forgworld Painting team, used to be something to aspire to, not so much now.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 15:52:09


Post by: dsteingass


Actually no, they are only £20 for the 3, and £18 for Gor half-horn- not too bad. I actually dont mind their prices. Compared to a lot of regular plastic model kits, its not bad at all. I just dont like the space marines everywhere thing. There are billions of GUARD, from millions of worlds, Marines are supposed to be rare. The Imperium exists because the GUARD hold the line.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 16:06:42


Post by: Captain Brown


Great tutorial on the rust covered metal.

Cheers,

CB


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 17:15:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Recently Gw has shown more mediocre paint jobs as to not scare off the customers...in my opinion a good marketing choice...comparable to the dove cosmetics advertising campaign...models with bumps and curves rather than stick models...

As with the rust...course yours is better...or cams...you two ooze rusted, breath it even...




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Also...there is a squat hired gun even...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/09 17:22:28


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Thanks for the turorial, and the hired guns are looking good. May have to dust off my old ratskins...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/10 19:28:24


Post by: lone dirty dog


Your rust is definitely of better quality if that makes sense ha ha.

To be honest when people complain about the cost of models compared to the ā€œold daysā€, I don’t think they take into context the value of money now compared to the early eighties or nineties even. I mean how much does food cost now compared to then, I remeber when my shop was under Ā£40 a week over double that now without trying.

Add to that I was paying Ā£60-Ā£70 for military resin kits back then, so it ain’t as bad as people think IMHO.
Also it’s nice to see GW customer focused again, mind you I think it must be paying off as they seem quite committed.

As to the paint jobs yes they ain’t quite heavy metal anymore, mind you some of the lesser paint jobs have made the minis look a little shoddy.
Mind you those Orlocks heads ain’t the best, mind you that’s all I have to complain about the necromunda range ....... so far

Well that’s my waffling over now have you seen the hired guns yes that’s a squat an actual squat .....



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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/13 02:20:23


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


That was the best weathering tut I've seen in a long time and I'm looking forward to trying it. Remember that airbrush you helped me buy in 2012? Tried it once, clogged, put it away for 5 years? Pulling it back out this weekend. My friend surprised me with a set of Vallejo paints(Leather & Metal). Looking forward to making a mess.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/14 01:48:21


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys! I really hope it helps some of your projects, and I'd love to see your results. You cannot get it wrong

LDD, I cant wait for those to come out! Especially the squat!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/14 08:14:09


Post by: lone dirty dog


I have to say the Escher and Goliath models are my favourites, but the squat is kinda cool.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/14 19:06:10


Post by: Red Harvest


Just don't acccidentally wash your brushes in your beer.

The GW rust is a bit banal. I like yours better. Remember, Rust never sleeps. (+1 to any who get the reference.)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/14 19:53:42


Post by: Flinty


That rust tutorial is great. Thanks for that. Do you need to use an airbrush, or does it.just make it a bit easier?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/14 20:46:21


Post by: dsteingass


+2 if you can tell me what year that album came out

@flinty - probably not, but you want a very thin, even coat. An Airbrush makes it much faster and easier. Experiment! Show us the results! It only costs you time, paint, and some salt.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/16 00:09:37


Post by: dsteingass


@Skalk- I know it sounds weird, but learning to keep it unclogged is tedious, but necessary if you want to use it. You WILL get faster and more efficient at cleaning, and most importantly painting, but it takes time and practice. T.he tool doesn't work without you.

I guess I'll get on the Shipping Crate bandwagon,

These are by 4Ground in the UK. Pre-painted, before the laser cuts. Very Thin, proper SCALE MDF stuff. They have some AMAZING terrain.
https://www.4ground.co.uk/

I built a set of their dumpsters

They need lettering and weathering though.


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Then the outer detail layer is painted, laser-cut cardboard


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/16 05:39:31


Post by: Red Harvest


Dave, where did you get those cool clamps? Perhaps a quick review? Por Favor?

These https://www.amazon.com/Solid-Brass-Miniature-Clamps-Inches/dp/B06XD5WGW9 ?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/16 19:16:07


Post by: dsteingass


@red, they LOOK the same. I got mine from Micro Mark
https://www.micromark.com/Solid-Brass-Miniature-Bar-Clamps-3-3-4-Inches-Long-Set-of-2

And this entire thread is one BIG review of those clamps!
They are among my favorite tools ever. I have a 4 of this size, and 4 of the longer ones


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/16 21:26:11


Post by: Red Harvest


Thanks. I think they are the same; they use the same picture of clamping the tiny table leg. Amazon is much cheaper though, but only has the one size. Micromark has some sweet looking tools.

There is the woodworker's adage, one of an infinite amount of adages, "you can never have too many clamps." I am testing that statement. So far, it is holding true. We won't discuss how many clamps I have. It's worse than my collection of tweezers. Much, much worse.

I'll treat myself to a couple of pairs of the short ones.

Shipping crates look good. If you ever get around to playing Infinity..you'll be set. Shipping crates used to be a staple of Infinity terrain for quite some time, even thouse marked Weyland-Yutani. The removable top looks very useful. I always like interior access.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/16 22:59:11


Post by: dsteingass


I ordered 4 of those from Amazon...we'll compare them

Display those clamps!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/17 00:43:25


Post by: Red Harvest


I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

I cannot fit all of them into the photo frame. The total is well over 100, but not over 9000. I can give a representative sample.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/17 03:34:05


Post by: Camkierhi


You guys got a dose of the clamp!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/17 04:45:48


Post by: dsteingass


Tools having me heart a soft spot in me heart


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/17 04:56:55


Post by: Red Harvest


 Camkierhi wrote:
You guys got a dose of the clamp!
I'm not sure how it happened. I only have 3 vises.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/18 14:28:15


Post by: dsteingass


 Red Harvest wrote:
I only have 3 vises.


me too!



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So, there we have it, the 4Ground Shipping crates

more space-efficient than the Imperial design.
Fits the Armorcast crate piles


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/18 16:34:23


Post by: Guildenstern


I seriously have clamp envy

Love the crates, are they MDF?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/18 17:10:59


Post by: OneManNoodles


The 4ground shipping containers are good, I bought three a while back and have been planning to build the third on the weekend for the past couple of weeks.

Great tutorial btw, I've had my eye on the Vallejo washes for a while now, guess they'll be getting more of my money.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/18 21:55:18


Post by: dsteingass


@guild - yes, MDF and Cardboard details

@omn - They are enjoyable to construct, thanks

@redharvest - I just got 4 more of the clamps from Amazon, same exact Japanese brand and everything. just half the price

The Brand seems to be Hatagane, the logo is just a butterfly in a circle, stamped into each
https://www.fine-tools.com/hatagane.html


btw- all of my build bench photos currently look dark because my trusty old OTT light bulb finally died. If they are ridiculously priced, i'll replace it with another Chinese LED with all the different light temps and dimmers like my paint bench has.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 03:02:48


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


 Red Harvest wrote:
Just don't acccidentally wash your brushes in your beer.
I've done that so many times that I only drink from a can now.



dude WOW! You cleaned your desk! And to think you used to give me a (jokingly) hard time about mine.

I did absolutely everything wrong with my first airbrush attempt. Air pressure likely too high, was using "not airbrush" paint, expectations way too high, and gave up far too soon. I didn't bring it out this weekend but next weekend for sure. Probably.

I'd post a pic of my clamps but since it's very similar to Red's.

Container is looking great!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 03:36:22


Post by: dsteingass


NO! LOL That was a pic from when I first built it That corner is a huge mess right now



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@skalk- start with WATER, get the feels of it. Then add a little wash, slowly thicken to paint, you'll find out what works, and what doesnt. there is no exact formula. You cant hurt it, unless you drop and bend the needle


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 04:09:48


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Water. Check. Distilled or tap? (that is a real question)

And the desk... well, at least it was clean.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 05:11:01


Post by: dsteingass


tap. Stop thinking so hard


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 06:26:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Whenever I use my AB it always feels still like defusing a bomb to me too...
Something about the combination of noise and electricity makes it an obstacle to use...weird, as working with a dremel is something I can do in my sleep...


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And the fear of getting it all clogged up...well probably that is the top hindrance...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 12:47:22


Post by: M0rdain


Well i disappear from the scene for 4 years, i come back and the same faces are going strong. Looking great Dave.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 16:33:52


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


@ Dave- I blame my occupation.

 M0rdain wrote:
Well i disappear from the scene for 4 years, i come back and the same faces are going strong. Looking great Dave.

Welcome back, M0rdian. I got back last month after being gone since Jan '14. Reminds me of when I first joined Dakka, saw a bunch of posts from guys who had (also) been out of the hobby for 8-10 years, came back to it around the same time I did.

I wonder who else will be showing up soon?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 19:20:51


Post by: Red Harvest


Dave, in lieu of the Ott light bulb, try Alzo Joyous light bulbs, like these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089MIH8I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They are CFL's but very nice. Not too blue like many daylight light bulbs.

I'll be ordering those brass ones for sure. Too cool to pass up

I like the scatter inside the storage containers. Very well done. Can't wait to see the logos and warning signs etc on them.

 Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:
 Red Harvest wrote:
Just don't acccidentally wash your brushes in your beer.
I've done that so many times that I only drink from a can now.
Dude, no. Just no. Beer from a can is nasty. Just drink from the bottle. Good Luck 'accidentally' dipping your brush into that. Unless it is a Mickeys Malt Liquor wide mouth bottle. but if you drink that, you may have bigger problems.

Interestingly, a nice way to break up tap water is to add a drop of pet shampoo to a cup of it. I say Pet shampoo because you can use that with natural bristle brushes too as rinse water. Just don't over do it or your airbrush will be blowing soap bubbles. :(



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/19 20:36:23


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


 Red Harvest wrote:
Dude, no. Just no. Beer from a can is nasty. Just drink from the bottle. Good Luck 'accidentally' dipping your brush into that. Unless it is a Mickeys Malt Liquor wide mouth bottle. but if you drink that, you may have bigger problems.


I can't find Schaefer in bottles around here.





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/20 01:32:41


Post by: dsteingass


Viktor von Domm wrote:
And the fear of getting it all clogged up...well probably that is the top hindrance...

This is the fundamental fear you have to conquer. It is Irrational, there is no mysticism, It will get clogged, you have to learn to clean it. There is no way around this, ever. Like wiping your butt, doing laundry, or washing dishes, cleaning your airbrush.

M0rdain wrote:Well i disappear from the scene for 4 years, i come back and the same faces are going strong. Looking great Dave.


Man! It's Great to see you! Absolutely! Welcome back! I hope you feel as welcome as you ever did!

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ Dave- I blame my occupation.
I wonder who else will be showing up soon?


I havent seen Mxwlmrdr, Hazzer, Scarper. Everybody comes back eventually

Red Harvest wrote:Dave, in lieu of the Ott light bulb, try Alzo Joyous light bulbs, like these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0089MIH8I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They are CFL's but very nice. Not too blue like many daylight light bulbs.


Honestly, I'm really digging the new LEDs out nowadays. These shop lights are supposed to last like 25 years, and I'm always loving the full spectrum daylight setting. Here in Indiana, winter is 110% Grey and SUCK weather all damn winter, the depression is REAL, I'm not kidding. Every damn day is Grey and miserable. A Human can only take so much of that, the daylight spectrum really helps. I think a mix of lighting is best. Except Soft White Incandescant, which is really Yellow and Depressing as well.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/20 03:48:02


Post by: IceAngel


Come on now Dsteingass, todays Indiana slow gray drizzle was quite pleasant. At least it was in the 60s.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/20 20:12:02


Post by: timd


 dsteingass wrote:

btw- all of my build bench photos currently look dark because my trusty old OTT light bulb finally died. If they are ridiculously priced, i'll replace it with another Chinese LED with all the different light temps and dimmers like my paint bench has.


Is there a post where you discuss this subject? If not, perhaps make one? THX


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/21 03:14:53


Post by: dsteingass


IceAngel wrote:Come on now Dsteingass, todays Indiana slow gray drizzle was quite pleasant. At least it was in the 60s.


Nonsense, we got 4 inches of rain in the last 24 hours, some north got over 6. It i still raining. It is supposed to rain until at least Thursday

timd wrote:

Is there a post where you discuss this subject? If not, perhaps make one? THX

About lights? I'm not exactly sure what you're asking man. This basement is unique for lighting.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/21 05:07:57


Post by: Red Harvest


Rain? Well today was 75 degrees Fahrenheit here, and sunny. Tomorrow it'll be 80 degrees. And sunny

We'll get your rain this week-end though. I hope you can get our sun and warmth. Dry things out a bit.

Have you though about one of those Arc lamps made from LEDs? if you poke around Klaus's thread you'll see that he has one. (You should poke around his thread anyways, just for its general awesomeness.)

Yellowish lighting. It looks good in Frank Lloyd Wright designed homes, but otherwise I agree. it is terrible light for the hobby.

Those Alzo Joyous lights I mentioned are used to treat S.A.D. Treat yourself and the missus to some. They are great in reading lamps and desk lamps. I use them in my avian lamps for my parrots.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/21 05:27:12


Post by: timd


 dsteingass wrote:
IceAngel wrote:

timd wrote:

Is there a post where you discuss this subject? If not, perhaps make one? THX

About lights? I'm not exactly sure what you're asking man. This basement is unique for lighting.




In reference to this quote "with all the different light temps and dimmers like my paint bench has."

Details?

T


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/22 00:49:14


Post by: dsteingass


@tim -oh the lamp! Sure thing!

I picked up one of these
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00V9YW41O/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It was on sale at the time. Occasionally, Amazon will sell things at or below cost. I don't know the reason, but I appreciate finding them
Its a Chinese-made LED, and it appears it is sold under a few different brands.
I got another one, yet somewhat smaller for pictures over my turntable, when my ancient swing-arm metal lamp finally gave up.
It has 4 different color temps (you can see on the additional amazon pics), and a full 6 level dimmer mode, Controls that remind me of the USS Enterprise, and more fine adjustments than I'll ever need.

I'm not alone, I follow most of the miniature painters (that I can stand their personalities) on Twitch, and many of them use these same lamps. I guess the LED is easier to color adjust for video cameras too.

@Red, I've followed Klaus for a long, long time. He is an OG LOER member too He comes here occasionally He is an inspiration to us all!

I've tagged him


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/22 07:51:10


Post by: timd




Thank you sir! A bit spendy, but interesting.

I found a similar single arm lamp for $40, but it appears that I ordered the last one so the photo in the listing is not available any more. Hopefully a photo will reappear when they get restocked.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075JFCCYD/ref=twister_B077XW3LW7?_encoding=UTF8&tag=pda0ea-20&th=1


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/23 10:46:10


Post by: M0rdain



That looks rather cool. I probably need to improve the light in my room, i used to have a lot more lights, but they have fallen apart and broken over the years i have not been painting.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/24 04:17:46


Post by: Camkierhi


Damn it, not tagged Klaus yet, going to go and do it.

Ah the old lighting debate still marches on. I find it bloody annoying that these daylight units are "special" and therefore cost more.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 00:22:15


Post by: dsteingass


I have an important SUPPLY DROP to share

A desperately needed new CHAIR!

Orlocks and stuff, Gregor Eisenhorn, Gang War 2, MAD, and a new Kirkman comic, VS.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 00:30:22


Post by: Camkierhi


Sweet chair, and the rest is a nice haul, look forward to seeing you paint them up.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 00:37:59


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks, I disagree with GW's paint scheme. Orlocks are Factory Workers. They wear dark blue coveralls. Not grey. My Father worked in a stamping plant, his father was a machinist, I worked in a food cannery. Dark Blue is my blood


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 00:50:30


Post by: Camkierhi


Agreed, men's overalls are dark blue.

Didn't fancy a gamer chair then?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 01:52:38


Post by: dsteingass


 Camkierhi wrote:
Agreed, men's overalls are dark blue.

Didn't fancy a gamer chair then?


Nah, this is a higher-end office chair. Nothing about those gaming chairs looks comfortable. They look about as comfortable as a sports car seat.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 15:24:36


Post by: Littletower


Too much goodness.

Great tutorial, nice bench, good tools and supply drops, kudos on the chair,


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/25 18:25:00


Post by: Red Harvest


How's the lumbar support on that chair? Asking for a friend. Yes, that's it. I've found that arm-rests on a chair for the hobby can get in the way... as in bang the 'funny bone'. Not pleasant.

Gaming chairs look tacky. Not in a kitschy cool sort of way either.

Dark blue indoors, tan outdoors. That's the way of it. If you work in a Muffin factory, you'll get a hard hat. Not kidding.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/26 01:12:20


Post by: dsteingass


The chair is amazing. Lumbar support is built in, nice curve, and is backed by the netting stuff. Armrests arent in the way, I have some bony elbows anyway. and the leather smells lovely

@little- thanks man!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/26 06:23:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


It's been ages since I registered a mad magazine at all...good to know it's still there...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/26 13:32:11


Post by: M0rdain


Love the smell of leather in the morning

A comfy chair is very important if you are going to spend hours in it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/26 18:03:15


Post by: Dr H


A good chair is a good investment.

Although you can now get a gaming chair with RGB (can't remember where from as I'm not an RGB fan... geddit?), so it can match your RGB keyboard and mouse... and motherboard, RAM, fans, waterblock, SSD, monitor and graphics card...

Makes all headshots 20% better...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/26 19:07:52


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Chair is looking comfy . Quite important with the time we tend to spend in these things...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/27 02:09:12


Post by: dsteingass


No.

Nobody needs a chair with LEDs in it.


No.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/27 02:56:03


Post by: Camkierhi


 Red Harvest wrote:
LEDs are like bacon. They both make things better. Always.





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/28 18:27:10


Post by: dsteingass


The mailman brought me these


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/28 19:51:15


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


You have an awesome mailman! Mine only brings BB&B 20% off coupons and pleas from FineScale Modeler to renew my subscription.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/02/28 21:24:24


Post by: dsteingass


Finescale Modeler is a fine magazine


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/01 00:47:59


Post by: Camkierhi


Yeah I want your mailman/woman/person/thing. Anyway, yeah nice little collection there, looking forward to seeing your take on this lot.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/02 15:03:37


Post by: dsteingass


I've been using my new chair to go ham whileon building, cleaning, pinning, and priming. So far, so good.



Meanwhile....we'll see if our esteemed gallery image MOD has a sense of humor



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/02 15:52:56


Post by: whalemusic360


Well it's non-wargaming and has language that isn't allowed on the site, so I'm guessing not.

Side note, how do I get your mailman? I think mine is related to Skalk's.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/02 16:12:29


Post by: RiTides


No sense of humor here (but seriously, no pics with profanity in the gallery, please, and as noted they should be wargaming related)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/02 21:54:21


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Wow. Talk about invoking the wrath of the Gods. I don't know what you posted but I'm glad I didn't see it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/03 02:26:26


Post by: dsteingass


It was funny, I thought It was lightweight . Somebody laughed.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/03 02:32:21


Post by: Camkierhi


You see that is what you get for being popular, being famous and having so many people following, you attract the highest quality people (unlike me) and you are held to a higher standard.....yes I know people, even Dave has standards! You see a pitiful blog like mine never gets anyone worthy enough to actually read it and thus I can post anything I want, were you have the high and mighty gods/mods of Dakka hanging around.

You painted anything yet?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/04 02:09:13


Post by: shasolenzabi


That is an impressive force you have there Dave


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/04 21:56:15


Post by: dsteingass


Nope, been at work. I need some actual rest first


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/05 21:08:51


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Hey Dave, wanted to share this with you- I used my airbrush this weekend.

Spoiler:
Pic is a bit fuzzy, sorry. Having a difficult time w/ photography these days.


Thanks for the inspiration and guidance in the past, I went through my thread and PM's, you helped me a lot.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/05 21:27:30


Post by: dsteingass


Very Nice work! A few small successes under your belt will break most of the fear. Keep painting to break more


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/06 17:35:51


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


I'm going to fire it up again this weekend. I'm highly motivated to get the Mantic stuff done. Once I'm done with that I should be practiced enough to work on my own stuff with confidence.

and yes, my friend knows I'm using his stuff for practice. He knows the end result will be decent.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/08 13:24:43


Post by: dsteingass


@skalk - That sounds like a plan!

In other news, I have a new WARGAMING TERRAIN TRANSPORT VEHICLE


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/08 22:01:20


Post by: Camkierhi


 dsteingass wrote:
@skalk - That sounds like a plan!

In other news, I have a new WARGAMING TERRAIN TRANSPORT VEHICLE


Very nice, could probably just about get a game on in the back there.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 00:48:14


Post by: IceAngel


Congrats. I think you'll enjoy the nissan.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 01:10:00


Post by: Red Harvest


Congrats. I look forward to seeing you give it the rust and industrial painted metal treatment. 1:1 scale modeling projects are so much fun

What? Someone had to suggest it. Of course it would be me

Drive safely Dave, and enjoy the ride. Be careful with Bean. Small dogs and airbags are a bad mix. At the very least I hope that you have a doggie seat belt.

Question: All caps, WARGAMING TERRAIN TRANSPORT VEHICLE, like the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPOURT?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 01:53:17


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks!
LOL, after much research and inner debate between the Toyota or the Nissan, RUST, actually decided it for me.

Toyota has had a lot of recalls on the Tacomas for frame rust. In some cases, they've cut checks to owners for double or triple the blue book value of the used truck. I had a guy stop by the house to give me an estimate on taking a dirty old silver maple tree down, he was driving an 09 Tacoma. The body was flawless, no rust. I asked him, he said he's had nothing but problems with rust on the frame. Changing brake pads broke tools. I went to the Dealership (I like messing with the salesmen) they don't want you to leave the dealership, so I farted around, pretending to make up my mind for awhile. Verbally comparing the Toyota specs, Drinking their free coffee and cookies I spoke with a service guy who was there. I asked him about Nissan rust. He said "come with me, I wanna show you something" and took me out into the back parking lot, and showed me his 1997 or 98 Nissan Frontier, NO RUST. Mind you, this isnt Dry-land Texas, this is Indiana, lots of SNOW and WET, and SALT and long-ass winters where we have zero public transportation. I see NEWER Dodges, Fords, and Chevy's every day with bubbly rust all over the bodies (I look at them for modeling inspiration) so, to see a 20 year old Pick Up with ZERO rust, is quite the miracle. What good is an Engine that will last 2-300k miles if the body rusts away? Then I kept telling my wife, "let's sleep on it, come back tomorrow" and they start making deals.....

The caps are to leave no doubt this is WARGAMING RELATED I HAVE to get to my FLGS to haul a maximum bed payload of UP TO 1500 Lbs OR I can tow a trailer of UP TO 6500 Lbs of sprues, and paint, back home

@Red - The first thing I did was take Bean for a ride all the way across town to the Penguin Point drive-thru for cheeseburgers She loves rides, and cheese. I never drive it like I stole it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 03:24:24


Post by: Red Harvest


My JRT loves the car rides too. Still, it's not how you drive. It's always that other guy. You know the one. The fool on his fething phone...

I buckle up my dog unless I am driving through the neighborhood, then she gets to sit up front and sniff out the slightly open window. I may be a bit over-protective.

To be totally wargame related the WARGAMING TERRAIN TRANSPORT VEHICLE needs some googly eyes shooped onto it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 03:30:51


Post by: dsteingass


Or a Heavy Bolter mounted to the bed!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 19:07:45


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Where's the Ohio State plate?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 19:29:21


Post by: dsteingass


I haven't mounted the front bracket yet- Front plates are not required in Indiana, so cars are sold without them installed. I have one


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 19:46:50


Post by: Red Harvest


Heavy Bolters are for the Space MarinesĀ®. Get a multi-laser.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 21:00:55


Post by: dsteingass


12v battery cant charge one However, I can tow almost 3 tons of ammo


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 21:42:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


actually you should build a nice flamer on the top...really...it lightens up the neighbourhood a treat...

all i am a bit underwhelmed about is only the colour...well...that corporate silver...really? its so resale worthy...why not some nice flashy red...or yellow...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 21:59:58


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


It's not covered in rivets or have any weathering at all.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 22:16:48


Post by: dsteingass


@vik I like that silver The Wife's car is the same color too. It hides dirt and weathering.

@Skalk- sadly, riveted cars went out of style after WW1


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/09 23:26:42


Post by: shasolenzabi


And sad reality, rivets for aerodynamics must be flush-rivets .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/10 00:20:11


Post by: Red Harvest


 dsteingass wrote:
12v battery cant charge one However, I can tow almost 3 tons of ammo
You get a power inverter and big ass capacitors. As long as the engine runs, it's scorchin' time

Silver is an excellent color for a car or truck. Much nicer than white, less aggravating to the police than red. Easier to see than black. Now gold is a tacky color, except for a gold ragtop 1969 corvette like my 6th grade teacher drove. Sweet car.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/14 01:20:58


Post by: dsteingass


Here, white vehicles mean corporate fleet vehicles with no frills. I love this truck, my short wife can even drive it when I've had few too many beers


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/14 06:19:42


Post by: Red Harvest


Just stretch out in the bed of the truck. It's called a bed for a reason...

My jr. high school bus driver was very short. She nailed wooden blocks to the pedals so that she could drive. Ah, those were the days. Safety-Schmafety.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/21 19:24:47


Post by: Flinty


I just wanted to.say thanks for the rusted metal tutorial. Tried following your instructions today with my son and its.going pretty well so far. i managed to borrow my dad's airbrush making it rather easier.

The Boy chose his own colours and I didn't realise quite how close they were so.his is a bit subtle



I chose a strongercontrast but have some learning to do on the consistencybrequired to scrape that top layer off.



Should be dry soon so.i can do the other side of each bulkhead.

Thanks again!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/21 21:01:59


Post by: dsteingass


Looking good! Scratch and scrape away! You cant really overdo it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/23 00:14:07


Post by: dsteingass


I still haven't painted anything. My Days off have been spent doing IRL stuff, unfortunately. However, I met the one and only Bootsy Collins yesterday,(he played bass for James Brown's Original J.B.s, Most of Parliament, all of Funkadelic, Bootsy's Rubber Band, and that was just the 70s) so that's pretty cool.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BgmsA2yl19G/?taken-by=og_steiney


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/23 00:25:55


Post by: Camkierhi


Very very cool.

There are a very few things you may think of as higher priority than painting, this may qualify.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/03/27 15:08:49


Post by: Dr H


Cool, good music.

Only famous person I've met is Timmy Mallett.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/29 13:45:41


Post by: dsteingass


Well, My Wonderful Wife bought me a new Tool, a SkillSaw WormDrive portable Jobsite Tablesaw. as you know, My only woodworking area has been mobile since we moved into this house, and you know we bought this house with the unfinished barn in the backyard.

And my workbench was my two trusty sawhorses. I've upgraded from a bowed piece of old plywood to a door

So I used the new WARGAMING TERRAIN TRANSPORT VEHICLE to get some Lumber and started building a Combination Table Saw Outfeed Table / Assembly Table / Workbench

With my Intrepid Shop Assistant, Bean...we worked and worked

The concrete out here is also uneven, so my design has a lot of legs, those legs can flex up and down a bit under the weight of the top as I move it around the shop. I built it heavy and sturdy

3/4" plywood top


Flush Trim Routed, as the top isn't designed perfectly square and true, flatness was the goal.

Then Trimmed with Poplar hardwood. It's not actually from the Poplar tree, its from the Tulip Tree. It's cheap, and plentiful around these parts.


Then routed a 45 degree chamfer on the edge to knock down the sharpness and assist sliding big boards and sheet goods onto it.

Then did a LOT of filling, sanding, and Rubbed a Danish Oil Finish on it. I payed a lot more attention to the top than the bottom shelf, as that will mostly store lumber stock.

The Poplar has a green Fungus figure grain, that turns almost black when oiled. I like it.


I designed it so that the cast iron top of the Table Saw (also chamfered) sits exactly 3/8" above the worktop so the Miter Gague slides out unimpeded. The Fence extends to 25" right, so I can rip full 4x8' sheet goods, and the 4x4' outfeed table is enough to catch full sheet goods.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/29 13:50:44


Post by: Flinty


Wow. That is substantial and very well put together. What do you do again?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/29 15:18:13


Post by: monkeytroll


Nice work Dave


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/29 18:21:24


Post by: Red Harvest


Dave, poplar tends to get the greenish color; it's a normal thing, not fungus induced.

The term for wood that has been colored by fungus is 'spalting' and it can produce some really cool, and colorful effects. I have a small table I built with some spalted tulip poplar that I milled myself from a fallen tree that had been on my parent's property. </lecture>

Poplar can 'burn' when one uses a router on it. The smell is appalling. It is cheap though. Filler wood.

Get yourself some good bench vices too. Yes, I know that you already know that...



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/29 20:08:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*drools*...er...not bad...damn...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/30 11:47:52


Post by: dsteingass


Flinty wrote:Wow. That is substantial and very well put together. What do you do again?


Thanks! I work with computers every day, this is one of my few actual feelings of accomplishment and the only place I feel like my labor matters.

monkeytroll wrote:Nice work Dave

Thanks Monkey!

Red Harvest wrote:Dave, poplar tends to get the greenish color; it's a normal thing, not fungus induced.

The term for wood that has been colored by fungus is 'spalting' and it can produce some really cool, and colorful effects. I have a small table I built with some spalted tulip poplar that I milled myself from a fallen tree that had been on my parent's property. </lecture>

Poplar can 'burn' when one uses a router on it. The smell is appalling. It is cheap though. Filler wood.

Get yourself some good bench vices too. Yes, I know that you already know that...


I plan on ordering a big vice with a quick release. They arent cheap though. How do you mean mill it? cut it square with a big band saw?

Viktor von Domm wrote:*drools*...er...not bad...damn...

Vik, you need a big table like this!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/04/30 12:25:40


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Looks cool


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2018/05/01 12:17:01


Post by: RandyMcStab


Amazing fabrication but I think that saw is too big for most models.

Maybe Riptides.

To saw them in half.