Well there's always nests for things that came out of the sump .

All the birds are gone who ate big bird? I

Cool terrain so far. Looking forward to more.

I've been rusting all morning, the rain finally stopped, so time out to smoke a big bird breast

that awefully sounds like the good dr. suess...lol

painting effects look very cool...and i often wondered about all these freshly scraped boltgun marks ...rusty patches are more convincing anyways!

bird looks tasty...

cheers, vik

and good to see this thread finally getting some more works again to be shown!^^

Thanks Vik! I'm happy to see you man! It's not the same without your wisdom and wit
You've been here for all 450+ pages of this and more!

Cheers Vik!

For the first time ever I slightly dislike someone on Dakka!

Started work this morning at 08:30, just finished at 22:00, all I have had to drink and eat is a bowl of corn flakes, and a banana, swilled down with cheap orange cordial. And you go and show that bird and a beer! Truly disgusting.....

Just kidding bud, looks really nice.

Oh and the paint work is looking amazing, you have definitely not lost your knack.

Thanks Cam!
I think we'll call this one finished until we have something to mount it on

Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Crane

Looks ready for the slag heap. Great terrain for necromunda. Did it come with rules? Now you need a beat up car and a compactor and you can put the Juvie in the car ready to be loaded into the compactor if the ransom is not paid.

It does Theo, and a mission with stats to destroy all three components of the set (2 tractors) one can imagine the different pieces scattered all across the board.

Looks like it's seen some hard work. I'd love to see this mounted on a vehicle. I feel like an unlooted Battlewagon would be great.

Thanks Whale! I can see that too! The kit is not super expensive. $40 I think. I imagine a lot of Ork Meks will be picking one up. I got two kits.

Great work, Dave. Looks lovely (as a beaten up, rusty, dirty crane can).

Thanks Doc!

Either we've bought all of the stock GW has released of the crane kit, or they are purposely limiting the stock, either way sold out online already.
That's been happening a lot lately with GW.

The filth on that crane looks fantastic.

"Well we've sold 1787 Skyshield Landing pads in the last year. Let's make that many of this new item as a first run and it should last us until Christmas at least"

- GW, probably

@Waaazag, thanks! That's the best complement so far!

@Whale, I dunno, there seems to have been a paradigm shift there at GW, Internet Vendors can once again sell online for 20% discount, they are releasing games and product that their customers actually want, White Dwarf is great again, All the new releases are plastic, Who knows what is next?

It's as if they actually WANT to sell us more stuff.

I'm STILL waiting on my set of Munitorum Armored containers, they admitted they had no idea it would be so popular, at least they had more made once they sold out.

The weathering on that is fantastic. It looks like it's been working in the junk yard for generations with little maintenance.

Thanks Valhalla! That was the idea. This went so well, in fact, It's the method I am going to use on all the blue terrain (from the previous pages) after It gets highlighted up to a more light blue/gray color first, Although highlighting the bottom of scratches to make them pop only really works on vertical surfaces, I think I can make it work.

Great Sector Mechanicus Galvanic Crane...something worth fighting over!

Cheers,

CB

Thanks Cap'n!
I havent gotten much done this week, been stuck at work for what seems like weeks on end. Almost done, then my goal for the long weekend is to get the new terrain panels and supports done and then start tanks and pipes and such, which will require a slightly different approach.

Freakin' cool! loving the shade of dirty yellow! good wash usage and you once again show why you're one of the best terrain dudes out there.

That grimy, weather-beaten yellow is terrific.

@Damo - Thanks man! That means a lot coming from you!

@zogg- Thank you very much! I've been photographing rusty, painted, industrial metal wherever I go, It's quite educational to turn those reference pictures into a miniature representation.

Stuff n Things in various stages of being rusted and wrecked. a.k.a "The fun part"





I've been lookng at it for hours, but does the blue need to be brighter for the rust spots to pop more? I think this technique works best with very light colors.

In my opinion you are right, the rusty patches looked far more intriguing in the yellow parts.. contrast sells the decay better...so I guess a brighter blue might be the ticket here...tho I know you're a stickler to the blue construction parts, I wonder if yellow all over would have been also cool looking...

Yellow all over would defeat the purpose of safety yellow paint though.

I think the blue looks great, maybe not as battered as the yellow, but maybe they repainted the blue sooner. Or since the blue is not industrial use and more civilian use it takes less of a beating so less rusting. Besides just as in the real 1:1 world, some colors hide the rust better than others.

Hmmm... Just to be clear, these two are different. The one on the right has NOT had the base color reapplied yet, and the one on the left has not had the lighter highlight added under the rust......I think I can work this out... I hope to get both of your opinions on my next post.


@Vik - I've thought about overall yellow many times, but I think it's too late on this particular section of terrain. Thankfully, it looks like GW will be making these kits for awhile, more can be tried. You are absolutely right about the contrast being the key to getting the look right. Reds are also in there.



@Theo - Good point about the later painting, rust UNDER layers of paint also creates some funky effects though

Those are great reference photos. Looking forward to seeing how you pull them off.

Thats Rust porn right there...awesome
Right specim looks better, Butter i cant put man Finger in Why thats is...

@Vik you're seeing a little highlight on the top of the paint, bottom the rust spots

League of Extraordinary Rusters ? (rusties, rustings... ??)

This new direction from GW (or is it a reboot) is looking full of potential - can't wait to see what they do with the new Necromunda

For chips / rust patches on dark surfaces, I tend to do the chipping with a lighter or contrasting "undercoat" and then add the metal/rust within that area, leaving a thin line of undercoat, to give the contrast as a sort of halo around the rust patches.

I brightened everything up one notch, I think this'll do

Looking good!

Can definitely see the rust easier, you don't have a promising career in the auto business if you keep highlighting the rust .

I'm done with the blue. It's a good thing too, because I'm now sick of blue

You may be sick of it, but I could sit and look at it all day, fantastic work, really makes the Mini's stand out as well, going that shade lighter has really paid off imo, those ratskins really pop against it.

They better pop against it, or be popped off of it would be better.

Rat skins Looking great there Dave.

@Cam- Thanks buddy! ofc, I only see that remnant of a mold line NOW that it's posted, not during the 20+ hours spent staring at them while painting

@Theo - Thanks Theo! At one time, the Ratskins were among the best paint job I'd ever done. Perhaps If I practice enough, I can finally paint the rest of the old metal gangs I've hoarded al lthese years. I've been watching painters stream on twitch, and I'm amazed by the general lack of skill these young whippersnappers have with metal models. They don't know how to even pin a metal model. Of course, they are amazing painters though. As long as we progress

I take that all back, my paint jobs are still chalky, but my style is my style I suppose
Some Ogryns have been tearing Up my Shop!




We'll need a Commissar next to keep em from doing this again.

Ogryns are looking good, keep at it!

Ogryns are looking ace Dave .

Do I spy sprues of bases? I was worried and had to zoom in to make sure those weren't primaris marines in the box on your desk , was worried the world was about to end .

@Khaine thanks man, appreciate it. Won't be much left to do on them now.

@Theo thanks! You know better if I have Primaris Marines on this bench, it'll be to prove that they could be converted from their static poses with a minimum of hobby effort. But I'm sure others will make that demonstration better than I could. I may convert a Land Raider or one of their 100 plastic air force kits for Guard/Navy use, just because I can.


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I think we'll call these finished

Now they look brilliant, awesome work.

I've been looking at the numarines, for body parts, hard to come by true scale bodies for basing my Orkz!

Thanks Cam! I'm 100% unhappy with the skin tone, it just went on rough (not smooth) from the beginning. I tried to turn my mess into a sort of blemished skin I conveniently imagined Ogryns might have, but I may just be jaded by the Studio/White Dwarf paintjobs I'm brainwashed by.

Maybe adding a little purple to look more like bruising.

I bought 2 boxes of Ogryns, if I ever need more (or Bullgryns) I can revisit. For now, they are done

what about adding a grey shimmer of "hair" to shoulders and heads?...i mean the ogryns are my picture perfect definition of hillbillies...

That IS a possibility too Vik. I think my primer coat got a little wonky for whatever reason, I just could not get a smooth coat, and there are MANY coats of paint on that skin, perhaps too many. meh. Not my finest work, but not my last either. This is something I could totally use a skill boost in.

well...my own knowledge of primer handling is slim^^...so no judgig from my part here^^

i quite often still drown my stuff in primer...sometimes something in me runs off with the priming and the finger keeps pushing down...like i would use a machine gun...inwardly yelling..."yeah...git some"...(i think i need help^^)

Haha Vik- me too. At first, I think I had too much pressure, the paint was pooling and splattering, I think some of these pools got thicker as I tried to smooth the rest out to match. I'm in a basement with a dehumidifier running, so it wasn't the dreaded bubbles, everything just ended up chalky, despite my super thin coats. I dunno. I have those OOP metal Escher and Delaque gangs to paint and I dont want that same problem.

Don't really see your prob bud. They are Ogryn....you know ogre-ish, dirty smelly, gross, not baby smooth soft clean. Throw some tattoos on them and the eye will never see your terrible paintwork.

No honestly had a good look in the gallery and they look fine bud, blemished skin is cool. I agree you will not want that on the Eschers, but you will sort it. I am no expert and not even gifted with the airbrush do da, but is it a result of being over keen to paint after cleaning the models? Maybe a bit of residue, tainted the primer coat?

Jeez these artists, complaining because their bloody perfect skin tones and models aren't happy ever! mine are happy to be vaguely pink mate!

Those are looking pretty good, don't bring yourself down!

If chalkiness is the issue, have you considered Lahmian medium? That miught help out by adjusting the drying time. Oh, and check the consistency of your paint.

Nah, no big deal, Perhaps a drying extender is needed, I'm sort of new to the whole wet pallete thing. Perhaps I just need more practice

Yes, more practice, but it must be on NEW terrain or models that you make here

I've got plenty of that to work with


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Been working on a bunch of smaller, linear terrain

Salt Weathering on barrels, also have a bunch of Ammo crates and a set of GW shipping containers in various stages of completion.

I was considering doing some salt weathering on some terrain, what's your process again? Is it just basecoat rust, hairspray, salt to taste and then new basecoat, scrub away salt after its dry and then as extra weathering?

Naa, just rust basecoat, then I mixed some regular table salt with some larger, Kosher salt. Haphazardly brushed water on the barrels, then rolled them in salt. I sprayed the first coat of yellow last night, I thought it needed another, so that's where it's at.

Good job on the Ogryns.
Skin, like many things, only gets better with practice... and moisturiser.

Salty barrels.

I must admit I don't know what you're on about dsteingas! The skintone looks great to me

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
what about adding a grey shimmer of "hair" to shoulders and heads?...i mean the ogryns are my picture perfect definition of hillbillies...

...someone needs to GS a mullet onto an Ogryn ASAP.

So, when I went to rub the salt off of the barrels, it took the primer off too! I think I have a bad bunch of white air primer! That must be it. Anyways, I made it work pretty well, despite that, I'll be upping a pic this afternoon so you can see.

I've had that happen before. I went with it and painted the inside of the hole again.

Oh yeah, that's what I did. It looks really good too. I've always used Dryad Bark as my go-to dark rust color, but the new Technical paint Typhus Corrosion may dethrone it. I even have actual paint peeling, It literally took the primer coat with it when the salt was removed.

Sounds a bit like the material of the barrels is oily...I recently had quite a bit of that trouble wit ice hockey masks I painted for the kids Halloween costumes...killer hockey players...well...every thing peeled off as if it never was sprayed at all...so now I uped my game and got me an evil plastics primer...tho I still haven't tried that out yet...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
Sounds a bit like the material of the barrels is oily...I recently had quite a bit of that trouble wit ice hockey masks I painted for the kids Halloween costumes...killer hockey players...well...every thing peeled off as if it never was sprayed at all...so now I uped my game and got me an evil plastics primer...tho I still haven't tried that out yet...

How evil of a plastic primer can it be? It didn't even go to evil medical school .

Looking forward to pics Dave. I got some of the thyphon corrosion too, just haven't tried it out yet.

It's an old bottle, Meh, oh no, an excuse to go buy more paint

*smallest violin in the world* :p Nice work on the barrels!

I like how the second one looks like it is melting from the inside.

Thanks Khaine!
Those are just the stages of weathering from left to right. But yeah, they get some interesting effects, all different and random.

 CommissarKhaine wrote:
*smallest violin in the world* :p Nice work on the barrels!

We have an orkmoticon for that now.

Last barrel looks terrific!!!

Thanks Vik! Like your concept of RIvet Zen, it's a satisfying little project.ormally, I'd agree with you about oil or grease, but this is both old GW barrels in Nottingham plastic, and the new GW Chinese plastic.

GW Pallet on left, DS Pallets on the right

Did Dakkadakka spend you your own abbreviation or what?
Good copywork

Thanks Vik!

I thought about it, I could have reproduced the little control panel, but I could not imagine why a pallet would need a control panel, unless it hovered, but then why would it have slots for forks?

i think it is a mystery^^... maybe some coding device for a inventory control system?

Nice pallet work. Reminds me I need to make some mules.

Maybe the control thing is a weight reader so the forklift operator doesn't over do it.

Stuff & Things

"Oy! 'Umie git shot off me slugga hand!"

 dsteingass wrote:

"Oy! 'Umie git shot off me slugga hand!"

Nice
Looks like a cool weapons depot in the making.

Gantry/Walkway from a Plasticville O Scale Railroad Signal kit.

Gotta dig up and shave some skulls

That is a beautiful piece of kit. Really nice, probably not to bad price wise either. You going yellow or a government utility green on it?

Thanks Cam! It's a pretty cheap kit, yeah. I'm thinking it'll be blue with hazard stripes on the beams I added for stability. i'm Thinking that is a good place for a derelict loading crane underneath.

Walkway is really good looking, especially the handrails from plumbing pipes! What it now needs is walboards with advertisement and then ruined necromunda style/ fallout...that sells it then!!!

Thanks Vik Yeah I added some cogskull bits to the ends, but it def needs more aquillas and skulls, wires, and pipes. I was going to have pipes run up the sides and through the superstructure.

Needs some hanging gangers as hostages, or trophies from battle. It would be a nice king of the hill centerpiece. Have the objective be at the top of it and have 4-5 gangs fight it out to see who get to it and gets off the table or who is the last gang to bottle out.

Vor me it's perfect for a sniper position...I always forget that movie theater name in F4...

Heh, you mean that Drive-in theatre where you can climb the screen and pick off ghouls?

exactly!!! curiously i have to hunt molerats there which i have killed off earlier and can´t finish now the quest of ol´preston...i love that sniper post up there...it´s a lurker dream come true^^

Preston becomes less-annoying once he is modded out

lol....curiously i have yet to start playing the game with mods...had recently a computer crash...and now i started a new char...my old 65+ one died with the last system... was too stupid to save everything before...^^

Ouch! It's one game I don't mind re-rolling a character. There are some fantastic building mods, weapons, etc. You should mod Preston out ASAP. the quests will never end otherwise

i know...i read endless jokes already on pintrest concerning preston..."another settlement needs your attention..." argh....
how and where would i find said mod?

Just like FO:3 or NV- use Nexus Mod manager. you can just easily plug in mods. You can Kill Preston, or just reduce his quests http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10339/? , or turn him into a woman, make him fat, all kinds of things.


Random, OT Thought of the Day:

MDF terrain is fine, unless you want curved surfaces.
It's come a long, long, way, but I haven't seen a lot of innovation in this area
With a few exceptions using stacked layers

Yep, I'll also endorse the Nexus Mod Manager. It's what I use to manage the 100+ mods I have (for FO4 alone).

Always back up your save games before installing mods as a good habit.

Install one at a time and check it works as intended to help with problem solving.

And look for "Coastal Cottage Cave", that's my (so far one and only) mod.

...

Dave; yeah that's my issue with MDF stuff, the lack of rounded edges just spoils the scale for me.

Vik stopped responding. I assume he is jamming to "The Wanderer" right now


Vik, I'd highly recommend the Galaxy News Radio mods- it adds all the FO:3 and FO:NV songs to the radio, there are other radio stations you can mod in too.

There still isn't ANYTHING like blasting Raiders while "Butcher Pete" is playing

no hiding... but parents day at school and other stuff like hunting fr birthday presents kept me from answering...and an unneeded fear of breaking the game if i truly start with modding... AND i am close to getting a new laptop soon...so hesitation all around...


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that rivendell looks amazing...

Nah Vik, You wont break much, and If you do, you can easily just disable the offending mod. You shall know no fear!

You shall know no fear!

now i am pretty sure i am in danger as this is a very strong case of body snatchers having devoured our dave and are now trying to take over the world via fallout 4 mods...

if you see me buying and painting muhreens, then I've been body-snatched

seeing being the totally difficult part here...as you know...we germans aren´t the biggest when it comes to surveillance tech...

I did see those bottom two mdf pieces at Adepticon, and they are quite nice. Beveled edges would make them much better though. Maybe we will see better stuff as 3d printers get better or a multi axis laser cutter becomes realistic for terrain?

Glued some stuff together

That is looking awesome bud, really nice details you have added.

i am a jerk...i have to ask...what for?...it looks good but the question is still...?...or...if i thumb my braincells a bit...the gantry is for the pipes to cross over the street....(i think there is a pun hidden somewhere here... )

It's for Necromunda. The Why is not for you to understand. An open mind begets Heresy.
Your faith in the Emperor is all you need to be concerned with.


TBH, Vik, it's just to look cool

See rule of cool. Vik been away so long he's loosing it. It's OK Vik, we will get you back in the game.

I think that is why I prefer SciFi over fantasy, you can just imagine any tech or Industrial feat, and you never have to explain what it does, or how it works. With Necromunda, no one alive remembers what all this equipment was used for anyway, derelict bones from a forgotten era.

Speaking of eras, a new one has dawned

Ah...papa went shopping ..

And your reasoning is probably the most fitting you'll ever get...and probably why so many sci fi and apocalyptic settings have so many fans...it's romantic coming from the other side of the spectrum...

We actually had a lovely morning.After Coffee and Stevie Wonder records at home The Wife and I went out for an amazing breakfast feast

Then we went to the comic/game shop, then we got groceries, and now We've got the rest of the day to chill.
Today, I didnt even have to use my AK.

Mate...you gotta take care of you arteries....i know I would love to eat such a feast too, but we're about to enter an eara in our lives we're cholesterol is not our friend anymore...just saying...

Don't worry Vik, the chemicals from us inhaling plastic glue and such will kill us all off well before any artery damage can occur.

Aw Vik, A little bacon and eggs once a week never hurt anyone! We split the Corned Beef hash and potatoes. I eat all the onions and peppers.

It's the cherry Pop-tart that I eat every morning that'll probably kill me, like Theo said

oh... it was corned beef hash?... never heard of that ...thought it was minced meat...the doc recently told me to lay my hand off of too much fat stuff... and i am all meat...so fat is something that goes along with that urge... and of course my appetite for sweets...

It's diced Corned Beef Brisket, fried up with diced potatoes. I think it's European in nature of origin. This is east coast or New England style hash. It was definitely from a time when they excelled at making food last and feed many.

@Vik- you'e got to balance the meat with other stuff man.

Check out the clear/grey sprue splice on the objectives sprues. This is what you'd expect from a high-end Japanese model kit.

the last sprue looks like a small diorama involving a small infant from a far away planet...landing in the middle of Kansas...do you see it?

Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised with the quality of the new sprues/kits.
There's some really fine/delicate details (namely spikes) on the DI models, and the fit of the pieces is very good (on the 5 I've put together so far).
GW seems to have stepped up the model quality recently.

Yeah Vik, that Superman escape pod is actually a life pod, that they say fits a Titan Princeps perfectly. I assume a Sentinel pilot might fit too. When I read Titanicus, they spoke of the "casket" the more ancient Princeps were entombed in, this looks like a casket.

I think the Cogitator Stack or the Auto-Doc with enslaved medical servitor is my favorite. I'll be getting at least one more box.


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@Doc- I heard someone say all the new China plastic was crap because of the Large Base detail kit was soft on detail, well, it's soft on detail so it doesnt draw your eye away from the mini. I've been impressed so far. The Nottingham plastic has a brittleness, this stuff is not brittle.

Those new sprues really are sci-fi modeller heaven aren't they - as for the clear sprue attached, I applaud GW for that...

Yep Ruglud!

I declare that we have entered a Golden Era of the Hobby.

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
the last sprue looks like a small diorama involving a small infant from a far away planet...landing in the middle of Kansas...do you see it?

Reminded me of this story. http://www.theonion.com/article/al-gore-places-infant-son-in-rocket-to-escape-dyin-2495

The Gantry looks useful for just about any skirmish game, TBH. It's a nice little piece.

very good bitter sweet sarcasm...best bit was GORE- AL...

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
the last sprue looks like a small diorama involving a small infant from a far away planet...landing in the middle of Kansas...do you see it?

Reminded me of this story. http://www.theonion.com/article/al-gore-places-infant-son-in-rocket-to-escape-dyin-2495

The Gantry looks useful for just about any skirmish game, TBH. It's a nice little piece.

Gore-al, in his brightly colored unitard. THAT is the gang leader we NEED .

For some time, I have been confused by people banging against GW. OK I know some of the sculpts are .........dodgy, but in general they produce a fantastic product, especially when you consider they are game pieces, not true display model kits.

Having said that, the new stuff just keeps getting better.

As to Gore-Al, would not be so funny if it was not quite so close to the truth. Global Warming is a pup we have had rammed down our throats, and is completely a "get rich quick!" for the older generation who will not have to pay the real price when it hits the fan!

You guys in the UK have been getting boiled alive lately haven't you? And most don't have A/C. I'm so sorry man! Try to stay cool.

Hey don't worry about us... Normal grey and dreary service will resume and then we'll all go back to moaning about how miserable we are and it's all the fault of the Brexiters / Remainers (depending on your political point of view).

Problem we have in the UK is that the heat only lasts for a few weeks of the year, so air con in a normal residential abode is not cost effective. We make do with desktop fans, ice packs and tiny kids paddling pools...

Well, summers aren't going to get any cooler.

I've heard Pakistan has 54℃...

Phoenix, AZ couldn't let airplanes take off yesterday.

Cloudy and overcast today and currently raining with lightning and thunder in the South East of the UK - still warm, but only regular summer warm (mid 20s centigrade / low 70s farenheit...)

I take it this has now become the weather blog

I take it this has now become the weather blog

was struggling to report our weather too... it´s supposed to be the warmest day of the year...but i am not feeling t ...yet...


dave... we need rust and rivets...to change the gloomy talk^^

Working on that Vik!

@ruglud - This blog has always been down for whatever

It's been a busy week so far, as far as "other crap that keeps me from the hobby" but here are some pictures to sate you.

Some of the objectives together


This still needs work



I've got list making to do, and PAINT SOME MORE DAMN TANKS!


I found a way to make the BEST white paint. The kind of white paint that maintains it's opacity and pigment, even when thinned down to the point of glaze. It's superior to every other hobby white paint I've ever tried.

It's quite simple and cheap. I'm using 50/50 mix of Hobby Lobby's store brand tube Titanium White Acrylic (Titanium white has the best concentration of fine pigment and SUPER CHEAP $5 for this lifetime supply tube), Golden Airbrush medium. Then once that is mixed 25% water. I have a tube of permanent black and I am going to try the same (can never have enough shades of black)

And last Saturday, I was walking into the record store when I found this little guy wandering around downtown

Looks to be a full-blooded Jack Parsons Russell Terrier. He clearly has a family, but no subdermal microchip (standard practice in this city), and no ID tags or collar. He was well-mannered, nails and ears were well-maintained, but he was unneutered.
We got him to the shelter, and as of yesterday, no one had claimed him yet. We may adopt him to be Bean's new friend, after he gets the old snippy-snippy, and they meet to see if they get along.

So there, we an talk about GW, Scratchbuilding, Imperial Guard, list-making, hate for Marines, acrylic paint, or dogs

Do your tanks fit under the walkway?

Cute dog, hopefully he and beans get along. Now as for a Name......Pork is the easiest choice. But since this one came second and is white.....mostly......I say Rice. So you'll have beans and rice.


Good old PBS.

Theo, tanks fit wherever they want.

That's a fine looking JRT. The American Kennel Club calls them Parson Russell Terriers. Most JRT owners that I know have naught but scorn for the AKC and still call the dogs Jack Russell Terriers.

If Bean is male, there may be problems. I know that with JRTs it is difficult --but not necessarily impossible-- to introduce a male JRT into a house with another male JRT. Also, the same applies to introducing a female JRT into a house with another female.

Be warned that JRTs have a LOT of energy. They are readily trained, and need the training to channel that energy into something productive. They need lots of activity. Otherwise, they can go over to the Dark Side. Teach him tricks. Maybe take him to not just obedience training but also the obstacle course training and that sort of thing. Whatever you do, do not wave a cat toy made of rabbit fur in front of him... well, maybe do it, but be prepared for him to go straight to 11.

I've had one for 14 years. They are great dogs, but they are not for everyone. Sort of like Border Collies. You've had a Rat Terrier for a while, so you should be able to handle a JRT. I hoipe it works out for you guys.

Frank, and Beans...

About the paint. Look into Liquitex soft body acrylics or Golden fluid acrylics for Titanium white. Or for the best yellows... with cadmium. Toxic but that just means no airbrushing and no brushh-licking. I've been using these for a long time. Excellent paints for mini painting. And the colors, and their names, don't change every few years.

Nah, Bean is a female Rat Terrier. I'm more worried about her being jealous. We'll see.

@Red - Arent the Golden Flows all translucent? or is there a set of opaques?

IF they get a long they´ll team up probably against the world...any living or dead matter if not...well...thunderdome...which is of course not a preferable outcome...in fact i still think there is someone searching for him...
as for name suggestion...bacon...beans...sounds better´n pork and beans...

love your shirt...i have the one that comes with the game still too^^...also...grey hair in beard already?...LOL...

the new objective marker set is everything...really nice models, and convincing ones even, and the price is a bargain...the bits look highly promising and show great use in all direction in my opinion...kitbashing will have these as their next best friend in no time...
my only downside idea here is that some pieces are meant for indoor usage...which is a bummer as mostly 40k or ´munda is an outdoor fun...so who would expect a dissection table around a corner or on a battlefield...?...see?

 dsteingass wrote:
...So there, we an talk about GW,

Done.

Scratchbuilding,

Nice work on all the things, Dave.

Imperial Guard,

I know not a lot.

list-making,

I know even less.

hate for Marines,

Go Mah-Reeens!

acrylic paint,

Boo. I still prefer my Enamels.

or dogs

Like babies, they're fine when they're someone else's.

@doc lol
@vik - Yeah, it's ONLY in the beard though. I turn the big 4-0 this year! I got it trimmed shorter for the summer, and it's still grey
I'm not quite here yet

@theo- lol I dont think the wife wil lagree to rice..>Frank, maybe..I was thinking Willie. Not sure yet.

They're opaque. Here, a photo of a few. It's one coat on a black surface. As you can see, nice coverage. And the titanium white covers better than the zinc white. The differences I note between Golden Fliuds and Liquitex soft bodies is that the liquitex is thicker, and the Golden has more of a satin finish.

Of course, prices for some of the colors can be a bit eye-watering, due to the cost of the pigments used.

Oh, I forgot to mention that JRTS can be vocal. Fortunately, they do not have the yippy bark. They can bugle though, like a beagle. They actually have a nice range of vocalizations, come to think of it.

But is he a complex (carbohaydrate) dog, or just a regular laid back dog?

I'm turning 43 in a week and a half, you may see all the fireworks being set off in my honor , and I just started to get a streak of grey in the beard. But when I keep it decently trimmed you don't notice it.

@red Thanks man! I saw a set at Michael's that came with some marker tubes. I'm thinking yellow in a marker tube should be a great base for hazard stripes! Their app gives a 40% off coupon

@theo haha He was pretty laid back when I found him.

It's interesting painting camo patterns YEARS after you applied the others in the army

case of foggy memory i guess?...^^i sure would need to develop the wheel again^^

Well Vik, for one, they dont make Tausept Ochre foundation paint anymore, but I still had some (it needed thinned, but it worked), an the green rattle can I used (I can tell by the rough texture on these) seems to match Vallejo Gunship Green. I never got the existing Leman Russes and Chimeras past the camo and edge highlight stage, so I should be able to get them all to the same stage, then finish them all.

I took inventory, I still have 4 chimeras (1 old style, 3 new style), 1 old style Leman Russ (the best style), 2 Hellhounds (1 old, 1 new style) unbuilt and several just primed. In 8th Edition, Battle Cannons are good again, so I'm gonna roll a trio of them

Coheld you perhaps show both types of
LR side by side...didn't knew there was an older edition...

Sure Vik

New Kit is on the left, old is on the right
(Left has the Punisher Variant main gun)
They redesigne it and the Chimera to fit on fewer sprues, but replaced all the subtle curves with sharper, mariney angles.

Update on the dog: Animal Care & Control did their behavioral assessment of the little guy, not good. He has issues. He is apparently very possessive and controlling about toys. They all belong to him, and he protects them, from people and other dogs. No matter how many toys they bring out, he hoards them into a pile and doesn't let anyone near. They say he has a tendency to wait until a person is walking away, then lunges to bite ankles. This means they do not recommend he be in a home with another dog. A single person with patience or a family without kids or other pets would be ideal for him.


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Moar camo roughing in

I do believe I will have a full Division, and I've haven't bought any artillery. That will be a separate company.

I built eight tanks today

Many tanks!

Top quality on the walkway from a could of pages ago, really top quality!

EDC

@evil Thanks! I made these pipe fittings the other day, then ran low on the 90 degree elbows, so I set it aside for now.




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I spent the morning turning eight tanks black, then green

Nice pipes dave , looks very true to the rest of the kit.

Thanks Theo!

Aw crap, It seems the Chemical Plant is now rather hard to get. That's crazy, those things used to be everywhere.

Hey Theo, next time you stop into MM, would you mind checking to see if they have any of their famous dented/damaged boxes? Amazon out, that must mean supply problems from China. Although they still sell it from their SoCo Official store. I could wait for GenCon, but let's be real, The chances of me finishing this after GenCon with shiny new toys is slim. It's me we're talking about after all.


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Today, I painted Camo on eight tanks

It's bold, which is the contrast I wanted, now to highlight and knock the boldness back into the details a bit. Soften the paint and make all the details pop

@RedHarvest Thanks for the tip! I picked up this same set, and the Yellow Ochre did the trick!

I haven't seen any of the pipe plants or Pegasus stuff in the MM store in ages (probably over a year), they had a few tehnelog or however you pronounce them, but they were real inexpensive raptor vehicles. I've been real disappointed with MM stuff lately, nothing dinged or dented that made me say oh?, much less reach for my wallet.

Cool camouflage work their dave . I just redid my basement and work area yesterday and saw my compressor sitting their saying "one day you'll learn how to use me "

Good work, Dave. Nice pipes, nice camo', nice progress.

@Theo - USE IT! It compels you!

@Doc - Thanks man. Shop has been mostly idle the last few days

Oh it compels me, but the last time I tried it it almost compelled me to propel it out a window. I really need to find some place that does classes and take one.

no, you dont. You just need to spend time spraying REALLY thinned acrylic, and a LOT of time cleaning the brush. Like anything else. Practice, repeat

Paint 17 tanks, that'll learn ya

I have to smile at the idea of a camo pattern that makes details pop, I know what you mean but I still smile.

Great stuff, love the gantry.

 dsteingass wrote:

Today, I painted Camo on eight tanks

It's bold, which is the contrast I wanted, now to highlight and knock the boldness back into the details a bit. Soften the paint and make all the details pop

@RedHarvest Thanks for the tip! I picked up this same set, and the Yellow Ochre did the trick!

Glad it was useful info. I see that you are prepping early for *Tanksgiving* The camo scheme colors reminds me of something I saw on a model Char B1-Bis tank some time ago... Ah, a Google image search will reveal many such photos. I always thought that the Char B1-bis was the inspiration for the Leman Russ.

Thanks Red! I think the LR was definitely inspired by it. TBH, I stole this camo scheme from some old codex paint pages years ago.

But yeah, If this example is operating somewhere in the jungles of Southeast Asia, this camo scheme would work. I like the disruption effect it has on the tell-tale shape of the Leman Russ.

Today I highlighted 17 tanks, 2 stages. Death Guard green, and Krieg Khaki- Which may be my new best friend.

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Fear not, if the highlight looks a bit harsh, they wil lall get a uniform brown wash

Great highlighting there dave. Which shading color will you use?

Thanks Theo! I just added a light brown wash. A LOT of it. My entire bottle of Vallejo Brown Wash

No worries. I'm certain Vallejo will sell you some more.

I'm impressed with the speed:quality ratio you have achieved.

Yeah these are looking great.

EDC

You guys didn't know that dave's last name is really Vallejo?

tank envy...´nuff said

Thanks guys! It's hard having much to show very often when doing batch painting like this.

Planning for the future, I've ordered my first ever Basilisk- I dont care for the new Basilisk kit at all, so I ordered the Forrge World Steel Legion Armored Basilisk, which looks to be based on the old Chimera kit that took six sprues vs. the new 2-sprue kit. So the Catachan Artillery Detachment will begin next. I think I'll need one of the big missile launcher kits too, although if I field a Deathstrike Missile, I can be guaranteed that my opponent will relentlessly target it first in every game I play. This could be a very expensive sacrificial unit. Every Guard commander has to decide which units are sacrificial.

All meat for the grinder, just add (wanted to use the newer emoji) to taste. Did you get the one with the complete interior? I think they had one like that

Yeah Theo, I believe it has a full interior, although you cant see much without a light

Who the heck batch paints an entire armoured division in one go, oh it's Dave of course, sorry, should have known.

Beautiful work, camo is really nice. If you are short any bits ask, I have a few bits kicking about for these.

Heh, I watched a VOD of WarhammerTV playing a game Guard vs. Custodes yesterday, filmed at Warhammer World. They mentioned that all other weapons can overwatch in 8th Ed. I may now be regretting my choice not to include sponsons. I just dont know.

Because it's cinematic for all the sponsons to overwatch

Well, I guess now if engaged in close combat, you can retreat, and immediately overwatch with all guns, that way when they assault you again, you get at least some shots off, Either way, the Custodes are basically demigods o nthe table. It looks like the saavy Guard Player now needs to know how to specifically tailor a list for any enemy. We have the tools to win, but it requires having all the optional models on-hand really.

Vallejo Gunmetal Grey, over and over...and over

Looking good dude.

EDC

@EDC Thanks!

I'm going to call the paint part done. Needs Decals, not sure if I have enough.

that's such a nice armored company.

Not sure if I have the decals your looking for, but if you shoot a pic I'll dig through my collection.

The standard Tank Decal sheet that has the word Catachan, but hold on until I dig mine.

I got one of Zinge's Taurox improvement kits. I like it.

Along with the Zinge order, came his Modular Buggy. I REALLY fethed up the tubular construction, badly, so I've got a LOT of filler and sanding work to do. What do you think? It should have some armor plates added? I don't want to lose the cool tubular look though, even if it doesn't have much protection.

That buggy looks awesome. I think it needs armor plates, just makes sense on a military vehicle. I like the extra grippy tires. I forgot that it was in development, I don't think I ever saw a completed version of it.

just a naked cage vehicle...does the term chocolate kettle mean anything to you?...

well...some armor plates would be needed if it it is an army vehicle of yon catachans...if it´s just a build for building sake, then make it look like a lunar vehicle^^


the tanks look awesome...

Magnets for the armored plates? Or something else to make them removable?

Armored it is!
There's no turning back now

Needs to be painted like herbie the love bug .

Also just FYI warlord games is doing 15% off until august 6th using code invasionofbritain. Not good on their deals or other company stuff on their site (army painter), but just in case you were considering anything new.

I'm actually afraid it'll end up looking like a Volkswagen to be honest

I got to be honest. The front bumper is just so huge it makes everything else look funny. Will you be making wheel wells over the shocks. It could be a great place for weapons or storage.

We call that "ignores rough terrain"
I have new stuff I've never started, Malifaux, Infinity, Wild West Exodus, DUST, and that set of Zombie Rules. I have a metric sheiteton of Zombicide. I dont NEED anything. But GenCon is coming up. We're pretty excited.

I've thought long and hard about the wheel wells. I dont think so, unless, when I'm done with the body, it just needs something else added. We'll see.

Everyone needs zombicide. It is a happy necessity. Just wish we could convince my wife to try it, but ever since she saw the zombie strippers .

Aaaaaand he's scratch building again!!!! :yes:

I think the problem with the model is the very wide build...usually vehicles are longer than wide...but this one is an exception...wheel wells would further make it look even wider...

Just my two cents here tho^^

Nice work on the armour plating on tge buggy.

EDC

Taurox is fantastic, amazing how a few changes make all the difference to that kit.

Buggy is looking great, I would go the old Delta force route on it myself, lots of bags and stowage, as a light scout vehicle should be, maybe a row of spotlights. But probably too late to the party, you will be done by now.

Thanks guys! Yeah Cam, exactly, the military sandrails have another set of pipes over the engine in back, typically the driver's bucket is wider, so this'll definitely full the role of Armored Cavalry scout.

My Buggy is not this buggy

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I think it's getting that OLD guard aesthetic mix between sharp angles and sexy curves.

Details are helping

We've got rivets! So now it looks liek something right out of 1983


The wheels are glued on the right way, with the Zinge logos out, however I DID glue the front axle on backwards, so the steering linkage is on the wrong side, don't tell Zinge (he didnt send me one of his instruction sheets, I had to build it from pictures on his site) and there is more stowage added than what is seen here. I'll add the weapons AFTER the crew is painted and glued in place.
It's also been primed black and sprayed the usual green, but seeing as how only about 3 of you are interested, I didn't take pics

Well I hope I'm one of the three. Everyone else is a loser .

What weapon options did it come with/ or are you adding something dave built.

It came with His version of a Twin-linked autocannon with drum mags, but I think I'll be adding an Autocannon on top, with a heavy stubber for the driver. Not exactly sure yet. I like the idea of a .50 cal on top and an M60 for the driver.

It's looking fantastic, a real rigged dune buggy. I like the changes you've made to the front end. Any plans for the driver? What were you thinking colour scheme wise?

not interested in rivets...whut?...

Thanks Guys!

@scarper - the driver is just a standard Catachan with the flowing bandana. His only modification being a disc of plastic between his legs and torso to make him sit slightly taller. The Gunner will be standing in the back.

@Vik - there are those who are still...unenlightened

 dsteingass wrote:
Thanks Guys!

@scarper - the driver is just a standard Catachan with the flowing bandana. His only modification being a disc of plastic between his legs and torso to make him sit slightly taller. The Gunner will be standing in the back.

@Vik - there are those who are still...unenlightened

Then we must enlighten them.....get my flamer!

The State of things that are, and those to come



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Parts are all washed and straightened. The Earthshaker gun needed a viagra crushed up and dissolved in the hot water bath

Oh Dakka, how I hate your auto-append..Will you do it again even after overnight?

Hmm, Buggy could have a harnessed gunner standing with a pintle-mount heavy weapon? Not sure what you were going with for it.

Zinged Taurox is looking good.

Yeah Shas, It'll have a gunner on top, and the driver will have something to shoot too.

 dsteingass wrote:
Yeah Shas, It'll have a gunner on top, and the driver will have something to shoot too.

Very sweet!

I hope so, Cav Scouts should be fast and well-armed

Great job on covering up that engine block, actually looks better with your modification.

Good ol' forgeworld, as always whatever can be warped, is warped.

Heh @MN- yeah, ZInge's modular block is a little small. It's too bad he didn't incorporate his big engine into this kit, although I have a spare of his big block, didnt even try to use it.

So I still that zinge's top gun for the taurox? Or it the stock one? I've never been a fan of that beast.

It's the stock Gun with Zinge improvement bits added, 1st pic, last page

Buggy and Taurox looking fantastic, buggy is a very interesting build, Earthshaker will be a very nice build I think.

That Zinge conversion kit is great - reminds me though that I need to get back to my Taurox 6x6 conversion...

Buggy is interesting, although there's something bugging (no pun intended) me about it but I can't figure out what it is at the moment - possibly the oversized tyres?? I'm sure though it'll work out though once you're done

Thanks Ruglud, It's sort of a silly project, just for the fun of it really

I'm not saying that Amazon Prime is the greatest thing but....

it's the greatest thing ever

I ruin brushes so quickly that I just use the basic army painter ones or ones from the hobby/craft store, but I always have brush envy.

You've got to religiously clean them, but I still use my first Series 7, It's more than 10 years old. The Gold letters are all worn off, but the point is still pristine

Do you have any special technique to clean them? I've recently started using a few series 7s and I'm super paranoid about paint going in the ferrule. They're amazing brushes but also expensive enough that I'm not sure I can justify replacing them!

Mmmm Winsor & Newton Series 7. I'm definitely a convert.

EDC

@scarper They say, never get paint that far up, but those are the same people who dont know how to drill and pin - I have 2 pots of water at the paint bench, dirt and less dirty, then when I'm done paitning and cleaning up for the session, first a scrub in pink soap, then Master's Brush cleaner, always reform the tip, and just store them flat. I've had more problems from them betting dirty from airbrush overspray nearby than paint in the ferrule.

Nice work on the buggy. Additions look good.

Thanks Doc! Fighting this FW Basilisk kit now. I know by now not to expect great Quality Control from Forge World but...

really? It's like their original document was stored on a shared drive, with direct links to the image files, then someone moved the files. They literally printed me an instruction sheet with broken images and missing arrow lines, the arrow points are there, but no lines.
Do I now have to master Resin to plastic model-building, AND paper puzzle skills?



yep.
I really could've scratchbuilt the entire rear end and made it look better than these kit parts fit together.

Wow, that is rough. But at least you have their design to work off of to scratch build the Dave pattern medusa siege cannon.

Yeesh. Considering what they charge, you'd expect better, right? FW stuff always seems to be a bit of a gamble...

@theo - Dude, I'm totally going to do that! Great Idea!

Meh, this one will be glued shut, no big deal, it'll just sit at a table corner shooting until it dies anyway.

The Gap in the front was so atrocious, I blessed it with holy rivets to hide it's shame from the world



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Then a little square rod as a step-down plate


And I had to build the rear hinges completely and join them with the hydraulic arm.

Now there's a ton of putty work to do, but not nearly as much if I'd kept that gap. I would've ended up sanding the rivets off in the process.

one tech priest using metric the other using standard imperial measurements.

Right under the barrel is always a nice spot for sandbags too though that would cover the Holy Rivet.

The Techpriest has calculated that although the Vehicle is more valuable to the Machine-God than the crew, there is a 31.7487% higher chance the vehicle survives longer with intact fleshbag crew.

Some paint on the buggy, then I decided It needed some additional lights



What do you guys think of giving the buggy this treatment?

I figured once you did the driver, gunner and storage there would definitely be some flockage (or whatever it's called, surely not drapery ).

Yes to the additional lights

I think that the camp netting would be cool looking, but easy to over do, so be careful.

Any chance you can send me pics of the Warlord Titan in that book?

Sheesh, that's some wonky resin !

I can't see the third picture so not sure what you're planning ? I would say though, a rack of lights on the roll bar above the drivers head might be an idea...

@whale - sure, I'll PM you
@ruglud - it's a UK Army buggy of some sort with Ghillie netting draped all over it. Another rack of lights on top would look col, but a gunner will go up there
@Theo- we'll call it ghillie drapery
@fifty - I agree

Camo netting is actually the right term if that helps

 Llamahead wrote:
Camo netting is actually the right term if that helps

I'm kink of liking Dave's naming of it

moar paint

Looking really good! Those changes that you made to zinges buggy look seamless.

The extra headlights really help out. Plus the paint job is looking great too .

Thanks Theo! Thanks Scarper

I'm officially tired of painting this Taurox. I NEED something different to paint. It's a lot of work that no one seems interested in really.

It's interesting since it's a conversion kitted out, but I've never liked the design of the Taurox from GW. The gun change has helped a lot, but as most GW vehicles look like tanka trucks(and not in a good way), I've just never been endeared to the model.

Very nice paint job and the Zinge kit is a vast improvement

Dakka is really quiet at the moment, or at least where I hang about is.

 dsteingass wrote:
Thanks Theo! Thanks Scarper

I'm officially tired of painting this Taurox. I NEED something different to paint. It's a lot of work that no one seems interested in really.

That is an amazing job on the wagon, they are an ugly beast and have so many issues, but you have at least made it look the business. Like I say Dakka is a bit quiet, it is summer.

Oh and for something a bit different, get cracking on an entry for the LoER comp, that could be a nice distraction.

That's actually a great idea Cam!

He's full of great ideas. And quite capable of making a reality of them in very short order. Which makes visiting his threads a treat, always.

I see that Taurox and it wants the minesweeper arm, or whatever it is called that one finds on the Buffalo MRAP. It's the weird tracks that do it in. It should be a six wheeler. You've made a nice job it it, which is a heck of an accomplishment.

Good job on the Taurox...

...someone should make a Tau empire version of this thing...

...looks good.

On the whole I like the taurox, except for the original track things, and the submarine doors (not the doors themselves, just their addition to this model; not suited to it's looks), the positioning of the guns, and...no, that may be it. I'd probably find more if I had one to hand.

That does look very nice, I still won't buy one but it does look very good. I hadn't actually seen your posts ...

Everyone has hated this poor kit since it came out. I think they are not a million miles from being not bad, and your work is a perfect example of what can be done, I think maybe part of the problem is the age old GW sclae issues, I look at this and see a recon vehicle, not a troop transport.

Anyways, come on bud, what you upto?

Thanks Guys!

@cam not much, I got the base camo on the Basilisk, then realized it was the 21st thing in a row I painted exactly the same way, and that I havent done anything for almost 2 months on my weekends other than paint tanks that no one really wanted to see. Essential busy work. I got discouraged, then started playing Fortnite, which was stupid, because it seems like I'm at work more than anything these days. A great game that sucks time that I dont have.

That's about it. The oppressive heat and humidity has finally taken a break, so I had to spend more time on yardwork. (I hate being outside in stupid humidity, who the hell thought it would be a good idea to drain the Black Swamp in the 1840s, and pretend it's not still a damn swamp, then settle here?"

Also, I was excited about 8th edition, but in order to complete my Artillery section, I need a missile launcher kit, GW has been sold out of everything guard, you just can't get anything at all, Early Thursday morning, I got the email that the Manticore was back in stock, but it was completely sold out 4 hours later. I was watching streamers paint, but now everything is endless Space Marine garbage. They are NOT supposed to outnumber the guard, ever. It's in their lore, yet they do, in releases, novels, re releases, updates, everything.

I think the Taurox came out nicely. After being initially turned off from them (like everyone else) I picked up a couple after seeing that they can look nice with conversion kits. I threw two together using the blood and skulls conversion kit with the 6 wheels. I thought they were a pretty good kit actually. It came together nicely and looks like a vehicle you might actually see in the real world after adding the wheels.

Yeah, the stock treads are horrible, and the lasers that shoot it's own hull was a stupid idea, but I've seen some great conversions of the kit, including the six wheeler. I just happen to like the half-track version. I have another kit that I think needs converted into a Munitorum Cargo Eight, an image we only have in our minds from the descriptions in novels. No artwork has ever defined it officially, but It's the gritty stuff that actually makes the Imperium Possible, the regular schmoes who move men and materials across the galaxy, on every planet, in every warzone, while the Glory Boys take all the credit.

I'm always excited to see people flesh out the setting with things like cargo vehicles and civilians. So I'm looking forward to seeing the 8 wheeler when you get around to it.

Same here hopefully it'll be something like a M983 HEMTT. Oddly I quite like the Morris Gun Tractor the Taurox is based on but the Taurox itself annoys me.

 dsteingass wrote:
... then realized it was the 21st thing in a row I painted exactly the same way...

And that is why my army has ended up the way it has.
I can easily cope with mindless repetitive tedium for a job, but when it comes to hobbies I like variety (also the reason why I've been involved with a wide variety of hobbies).

Maybe just throw in a random, completely different model every now and then to avoid getting discouraged by the endless camo'.

Either way, I'm happy to look at anything being done. You're not boring me with camo' tank after camo' tank.

Dave, maybe treat yourself to something completely different. There are so many excellent minis and models out there. Hobby time is too precious to squander doing the same thing over and over again.

Taurox looks good. The half-track look is a bit improvement over the original.

Don't let the lack of comments get you down. I'm sure a lot of people like it, but don't want to clog up the thread with 'good job' comments. It's not you can just click 'Like'.

Nice job on the Taurox.

Basilisk is looking nice too.

EDC

Nah, I'm not fishing for complements or anything like that, but batch painting just inst that interesting.

i know, you don´t really identify with your work that way that much as if you painted special individual miniatures...that counts way more...

Well Vik, I guess I do, just on the sheer amount of time and effort that I put into them, planning and testing a reproducable, consistant paint scheme, and trying to make them at least better than tabletop standard, dare I say "tournament standard" even if I abhor the competetive aspect of the gaming.
.

I oversaw the paint judging for a large tournament for 3 years. When I read "tournament standard", well, you owe me a cup of coffee and a new keyboard. Tournament standard is a very low tabletop quality. Your tanks are way ahead of it. Tournament standard does not include cleaning mold lines, for example.

I don't mind the competitive aspect of certain games. Tournaments can be fun. Infinity works well as a tournament game. I hear Magic:Tha Gathering works well. However, Games Workshop games do not make, and as far back as I can recall ( mid-nineties) have never made, good tournament games. ( I suppose I need to add, "in my experience and opinion:, to keep a certain sort away.)

The other thing to consider is that most of us have seen these tanks many, many times before. It's difficult to come up with much to say about them at this point.

Well, I know absolutely nothing about tournament anything. I know I took my best to Golden Demon in 2012, and made it to the second round of judging, and that was it. It's just my personal standards, to never play with an unpainted army, and never, ever show anything with mold lines or undrilled barrels.

Oh, I thought you were talking about the standard to which armies at tournaments are painted-- 3 colors, most often irregularly applied. Effectively, the bare minimum required to call a mini painted. If you are talking about things like Golden Demon or Crystal Brush, that is something entirely different. And a much higher standard.




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I tend to divide painting into two categories: for the tabletop and for the display case. Each has its own merits, and requirements. I think painting for the tabletop is actually more difficult, since the mini will be viewed in all manner of lighting, and from all angles. It's what I prefer.

I always thought Tournament painting was supposed to be above the tabletop level, yet lower than competition painting.

Oh no, that has never been my experience. Tournament level is stuff painted just to have it painted for the tournament. No concern or effort for quality at all. Next up is painted nicely enough that it looks good on the table... from 3 feet away, your basic tabletop standard. Seems like we had a bit of an electronic miscommunication.

If your work was good enough to make the first cut at a Golden Demon, it is significantly better than tournament or basic tabletop.

I was just watching a video of the taurox on another painters blog and having seen a few other crazy blogs currently going with massive terrain I had an idea. The taurox to me looks like a great 40k train engine without the wheels and tracks. Maybe a good basis for an ash waste nomads land train. I'm almost tempted to buy one now thanks Dave. I'm actually sitting outside miniaturemarket waiting for them to open in two minutes . I was also thinking how the containers would look great as the box cars .

I need to not do this .

The taurox is pretty small Theo, not sure it would make a great train engine.

 whalemusic360 wrote:
The taurox is pretty small Theo, not sure it would make a great train engine.

But it carries 10 people and a battle cannon right? thanks for that! I didn't buy it. I managed to get out with only a few paints. Though they had a damaged copy of Dark imperium (40% off) and a few of the space marine codex with minor damage (50% off). I passed my will power roll. Must save the money for the New Necromunda that is right around the corner . Though the Goliath rock grinder and GSC are calling me to make a Van Saar gang .

The parts from the Taurox kit WOULD make a great basis, but the frame would need to be extended with some serious conversion work. The way the parts are cut is mostly modular, there are a few corners that would need serious surgery. I think it would be a great kit for conversions in general, but I wanted at least one to use in a game, see how it performs, then expand if necessary.

I fnally got an order in for a Leman Russ Demolisher kit, but the manticore is still sold out. GW replied to my email with dates of early august for everything I asked about EXCEPT Catachans.......this makes me either nervous, or excited. The new bendy plastic jungle foliage kit leans me more towards excited!

That's an interesting bit. Perhaps the new image circulating from GW is a new Catchcans symbol.


We've all been speculating Necromunda and rouge trader.

its just a way for GW to have an aquilla that looks like a skull...more skulls fr the skull makers...


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by the way...noticed the bunny teeth?

Well, in the new rulebook, in the art section, there is a new painting with catachans with flak armor and lots o tattoos...

Fingers crossed its not something related to the new super space marines, there are several rumours of necromunda.

WAKE UP DAVE!!! NEW NECROMUNDA WITH PLASTIC GANGERS ANNOUNCED!!!

image is a Necromunda sewer plate

Oh baby! The Rumors were TRUE!!




Goliath? or Gorilla? or Goliath in Gorilla mask?

GW I hate you........Thanks Dave. now I have to divorce and sell the kids to get this once it is out, so worth it.

I couldn't tell if that last one was a Goliath or just a really butch Escher, maybe a bit of green stuff to differentiate them. I guess core box will be chicks on chunks. Will be dropping my Escher into some simple green today.

Every time GW re-re-re-releases Space Marines, I want to divorce GW. THis aptly timed release is meant for me. No Space Marines are allowed in the underhive!

Can't wait for Necromunda 2.0 - All plastic multi-part figures, with the original 6 gangs represented as well others

I've already got this on the top of my Christmas wishlist and the wife & kids have been informed

Oh... I think this will be it then for me...I build armies for the fun of it, and I was plotting my way into maybe jumping on the bandwagon wagon with the eighth edition...but necromunda 2.0 sounds way better as a true starting point to finally start to unravel the playing part of the hobby for me and my kids... tried to grasp the n&r threads content...and the system might be understandable even by dense ol me

Good luck for all of us

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
Oh... I think this will be it then for me...I build armies for the fun of it, and I was plotting my way into maybe jumping on the bandwagon wagon with the eighth edition...but necromunda 2.0 sounds way better as a true starting point to finally start to unravel the playing part of the hobby for me and my kids... tried to grasp the n&r threads content...and the system might be understandable even by dense ol me

Good luck for all of us

Some fun what I've read says it's based on 8th edition, so it would definitely be a good starting point. The sad part I heard was no Necromunda specific terrain, but it might have more of the shadow war terrain in the box and cost under €100. I'm all sorts of Giddy .

as it is based on the 8th...will that mean i can´t play ´munda without a copy of the 8th edition rule book?

You only need the Munda Rulebook to play Munda- Shadow War is basically the Munda rules, with regular 40k units. Al lthe rules and points are in their respective books. 40k 8th, you need the core rulebook, and the Index until your Army's codex releases for all the points values

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
as it is based on the 8th...will that mean i can´t play ´munda without a copy of the 8th edition rule book?

It's just similar to the 8th edition rules which I've paid no attention to at all. Just like old Necromunda was based off of the rules for 2nd edition 40k. All rules should be in the core box along with Escher and Goliath gangs. Also cardstock terrain to get playing right away.

It had BETTER have some terrain. Munda is not playable without terrain, and not just Los blockers, it's essential to get in and move around and shoot from it.

cardstock terrain with them plastic thingies we all love to pieces to hol them together perhaps?...

I hope so Vik!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
cardstock terrain with them plastic thingies we all love to pieces to hol them together perhaps?...

According to multiple sources, just cardboard, no bulkheads . I'll have to stick with my 200 bulkheads and do small tables. Pic from 2013, I think I've doubled in the quantity of DUST buildings since then .



There is talk of more terrain bundles around Christmas based off of the shadow wars stuff, but since there will be two gangs in the box, rule book, rice and card stock terrain and trying to keep the price down the terrain is what got cut. I'm sure if we look around we might find some terrain somewhere. Books under sheets for slag piles, pringles cans for towers, soda cans turned on their sides for chemical tanks. Somehow I think we can make due .

Pringles tubes and soda cans? Rings a bell!

 Littletower wrote:
Pringles tubes and soda cans? Rings a bell!

I believe it was a staple meal of my late teens and early twenties while Necromunda had its heyday.

The new Escherites seemed kind of "ugly", like old GW bad female sculpts, would have to grab me some statuesque heads to make me some Escher.

I've heard rumors that the box will have Shadow War terrain. We dont know, GW now controls their own leaks it seems. I Think Specialist Games have access to print cardstock, but not their own plastic terrain. It makes sense that they would use what is current.


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THis is my last day of work! GenCon 50th Anniversary trip starts TOMORROW!!

Happy con-ny days for you...where do you leave beany by the way? Such trips are not much for the taste of pets...

Bean is staying at a luxurious Day Care facility, called Pampered Pets Bed & Biscuit, with all the amenities a dog could ever want. We have no children, so the Wife spoils the dog rather rotten.

Sounds good, and that way you can have a clear conscience and enjoy the con way better!

Have you mapped out your attack plan for when you enter the great hall?

What booths are highest on the priority list?

What cool things will we probably see you come home with?

We live vicariously through you childless people.

lol Theo- I have some games scheduled, an advanced MDF class, and a few other things, but no, we generally just wing it. Dave doesn't do "plans"

I see a wee poor Hannibal in tears now...

https://goo.gl/images/uujiRO
Let's see if that link works

I have nothing specific in mind to pick up, so no dissapointment there if a line is ridiculously long (wizards of the coast or Privateer Press are usually obnoxiously long for all 4 days), and I dont even know if FW will be there, SO I can focus on what is new, or unknown.

Howdy,

The wife and I are back from Sunny Indianapolis, Indiana!



The fiftieth Year of GenCon Sold Out! and was a blast!

Every square inch of the Convention Center, and all the Hotel ballrooms and conference rooms, and the Field of the Lucas Oil Football Stadium!
Games of all kinds EVERYWHERE!

There were Cosplayers walking around everywhere, these are just some of my favorites


Terrain!!


Great Food!


A literal Convoy of 40 Food Trucks also visit daily, I had some amazing Schwarma from one on Friday
Indianapolis Businesses open their arms to geeks, they are VERY hospitable, and welcoming to a 4-day nerd invasion
Probably because it is estimated that we will have left $100 Million dollars in town over the past 4 or 5 days

And pints and pints, and pints of BEER!!


We walked 6-10 MILES per day, so we would often go back to the hotel bar in the heat of the afternoon, IT wad great food, and lots and lots of tables, that they allowed people to game on, every table in the world was being used for a game of some sort, usually piled with drinks and food

They allowed us to eat, drink, play and be merry. Here, Ladygeek says the Burgers were great, and I was munching on a giant Nacho plate while we played the Bob Ross Art of Chill game we bought.
This is but a summary, I have much more to share,

Especially
the LOOT Drop!
After a Quick Demo game Ladygeek and I both had at the booth, I bought into The Walking Dead: All Out War

Afterwards, in the Game Hall, I played a full game using the "Unhappy Campers" scenario, and had a blast!

The mechanics are so fun, and I'm all - in on this game. I have such crazy terrain ideas in my head.

The Laughing God of Nottingham smiled upon me too

The Reprint of the RT book in hardcover, just because it completes my collection, The Horus Heresy masterclass book, and the Knight Styrix featured in the book!, a minty old School Russ, and the sets of vines and bracken, not too shabby

Then there is this assortment of sexiness

The AVP APC- this thing is badass, Some AMAZING 4Ground MDF stuff, a Tectonic Studios boxcar, plus I sat through a class with Tectonic's owner, and built one of his Cottage kits, I'll show you that later,

We had a FANTASTIC time!