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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/09 16:35:05


Post by: lone dirty dog


Its good for you to back ……….


Lost for words is a good thing just ask everyone else


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/09 16:56:28


Post by: RSJake


MaX! Wow, the end product is totally amazing! And could you do something else to make LDD at a loss for words again?

The flight stand really looks great!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/09 19:23:20


Post by: Horst


mxwllmdr wrote:

Horst can do it if he wants it done. Some people don't like to have the barrels drilled out.....



Gonna be the first thing I do before I paint it.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/09 19:26:10


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thought so.....


It's why I left it.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/09 20:34:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Funny translation on that one though, buddy.
lol...well funny or strange...whatever description fits for me^^

and it is sure a good thing to have you back!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 01:53:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Good to be back. Still working a bit on the dreadnaught weapons. Opinions on these?








Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 01:55:58


Post by: Rogue Wolves


that arm dosent look to bad, although i must admit, it is a bit odd not seeing you do giant planes.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 02:21:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHA.... I am unsure of the shape.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 02:23:03


Post by: Rogue Wolves


1 sec, let me edit it in paint to explain how i think it should be


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 02:26:55


Post by: Rogue Wolves


this is what i was thinking

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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 03:05:19


Post by: DiDDe


Rogue Wolves wrote:this is what i was thinking


I'm with him



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 03:25:07


Post by: Rogue Wolves


but if you do like that shape alot, you could always hang scrolls and purity seals to make it longer than the one i showed you


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 03:30:19


Post by: shrike


the recommended shape, or with the top bit cut instead of the bottom.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 03:57:31


Post by: dsteingass


Wow! Great use of plastic shapes Max!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 04:17:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks everyone. I think I like the shape you painted, Rogue. Also, when I do the trim I'd like to know what you guys think would look cool. i don't want these looking to GW or FW. Also, did anyone see the Autocannon barrels I put up earlier? I like them too but worry they are too short.....


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Sorry for the long delay in getting back to you, Rogue. Making Mad Hatter/Red Queen hedges for the wifes unbirthday party this weekend. I may put pics of this gala up here if no one minds. we have been busting buttocks on the deco for it.....



A family that crafts together, stays together......


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Or....


A family that crafts together, lasts forever......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 04:57:40


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hey no problem there Mxw, the order of importance goes
1. family
2. money
3. Imagionary Freinds (we know you have em )
4. Internet Freinds


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 05:04:38


Post by: Galorn


Rogue Wolves wrote:hey no problem there Mxw, the order of importance goes
1. family
2. money
3. Imagionary Freinds (we know you have em )
4. Internet Freinds


5. that creepy guy next door.
6. random odd puppy.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 05:53:54


Post by: mxwllmdr


I just bought the wife a random odd puppy. Cost me seven hundred dollars. Of course, its a Paris Hilton type dog.....'


Fething rat with personality.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 05:54:57


Post by: Rogue Wolves


now all you need is a nice siberian wolf for your dog, and we see who wins that one


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 06:25:59


Post by: mxwllmdr


Nah, I want a neoploitan Mastiff. I think I would lose though because they are mostly big teddy bears.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 08:44:36


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I think the boxing for the dreaddy is too large like the others have said, and I'm also not keen on the cowling you've put on the barrels, not sure how to change it though :/




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 12:38:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i am with childe here on the coilings... i think there is some more work to be done on them...maybe skip the GS work at all and go for the real thing and use wire...that way you can be sure to get the look done right... as for the housing of the gun... well...i think your version sure spices up the variety of the dreadnoughts out there... i think keep it that way! works for me!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 12:45:51


Post by: SagesStone


Galorn wrote:
Rogue Wolves wrote:hey no problem there Mxw, the order of importance goes
1. family
2. money
3. Imagionary Freinds (we know you have em )
4. Internet Freinds


5. that creepy guy next door.
6. random odd puppy.


You forgot real friends...

I like the edited version a little better to be honest. Looking around I'm surprised I didn't start looking at this sooner.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 12:47:09


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I feel that the barrels should be reversed. Move of a < shape to them. I feel that would make it seem like it would fire a more powerful shot.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 14:31:20


Post by: mxwllmdr


Forgot real friends? What are those? I don't think I have any?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 14:44:17


Post by: RSJake


That's pretty cool Max, I agree with Vik and AUC, there needs to be something more on the barrels. Not sure what though. Alos, I think it the barrels wree both facing the same way, it would look better, but that might make it look too GW/FW. Can't wait to see where you go from here!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 18:32:08


Post by: Rogue Wolves


n0t_u wrote:
Galorn wrote:
Rogue Wolves wrote:hey no problem there Mxw, the order of importance goes
1. family
2. money
3. Imagionary Freinds (we know you have em )
4. Internet Freinds


5. that creepy guy next door.
6. random odd puppy.


You forgot real friends...

I like the edited version a little better to be honest. Looking around I'm surprised I didn't start looking at this sooner.

i knew i forgot something


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 19:58:40


Post by: lone dirty dog


Rogue Wolves wrote:
n0t_u wrote:
Galorn wrote:
Rogue Wolves wrote:hey no problem there Mxw, the order of importance goes
1. family
2. money
3. Imagionary Freinds (we know you have em )
4. Internet Freinds


5. that creepy guy next door.
6. random odd puppy.


You forgot real friends...

I like the edited version a little better to be honest. Looking around I'm surprised I didn't start looking at this sooner.

i knew i forgot something


Come on you don't have room in your head for real friends, its over loaded with your own ones


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 21:37:27


Post by: Mister Chaos


Hi there,

Sir Max, I've been following this thread for a while, but I didn't feel like posting anything,
but now that your T-hawk (or E-hawk) is finished, I feel obliged to express some respect towards you.
I have no words to describe the awesomeness of your work, and the nonchalance (if I may say so) with which you seem to have pulled this off...
I was there when you started this blog, interested in scratchbuilding and stuff, and now that you've finished I must say I've been blown away by your updates, fast ans accurate.

The result is a Masterpiece,

Congratulations!

MC


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 22:16:52


Post by: Rogue Wolves


we should follow by example.. ^ THIS is how you comment on something awsome!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/10 22:43:31


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thank you, Mister Chaos, and welcome aboard. SHouldn't have been lurking anyway, we like it when people get involved......


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Rogue Wolves wrote:we should follow by example.. ^ THIS is how you comment on something awsome!



Where I am from a slap on the back of the head followed by "Thanks douchebag for making the rest of us look bad."



Of course this particular statement of adoration applies to Dave and Vik the most......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/11 16:04:21


Post by: monkeyh


I'm with RW on the edited weapon mount and personally think it would look better if both barrels faced the same way. For cables and stuff, you could use small tension springs to get that kind of ribbed look - possibly also to replace the green stuff? Looks a bit chunky at the moment - oh, and of course it needs rivets!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/11 17:38:17


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yes, Rivets, but we are not there yet, my friend


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/11 17:40:03


Post by: dsteingass


mxwllmdr wrote:
Of course this particular statement of adoration applies to Dave and Vik the most......


Aww Thanks man! lol

He is right, your productive and interactive nature makes your blog more interesting from a reader's perspective.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/11 20:47:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Thanks douchebag for making the rest of us look bad."


that made me laugh quite hard mate!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 02:52:10


Post by: mxwllmdr


I try. I try.....


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So I put the auto cannon barrels into the body changed the shape and refinished the bottom. detail is to come but how does she look for now?









Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 03:29:15


Post by: Rogue Wolves


it looks really good, only thing i would change is to push the bottom barrel up a tad, not touching the top one, only to leave a bit of space underneath it if you understand me


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 03:45:15


Post by: mxwllmdr


I do understand. There is too much space between them. the last set of lascannon barrels (it was initially meant to be interchangeable) had the right vertical distance I think.

Thank you for the feedback.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 03:52:33


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


A massive improvement Max!

have you considered ammo feeds/cabling for it?



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 04:05:49


Post by: dsteingass


Yes! Mucho Better!
..still needs rivets tho.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 04:24:55


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thank you, all.


I have in fact considered those things


case in point:









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It does clear the knee well although it doesn't look like it. It is hanging kinda loose on the dread.


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Or this:







Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 04:44:22


Post by: Capitansolstice


2nd one is much better imho!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 04:45:36


Post by: mxwllmdr


I thought so too is why I shifted it. Any thoughts on details?. I am prone to thinking it should be kept simple.....


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Thanks Cappy.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 04:48:57


Post by: Capitansolstice


Rivets my friend, rivets


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 05:06:26


Post by: mxwllmdr


Patience, my good man. It has to be ready to receive the rivets......




It isn't yet........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 05:18:11


Post by: Rogue Wolves


agreed i think it looks much better with the two drums on the side, plus it gives the arm some nice dimention


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 05:27:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


I really rather enjoy how the shape of the shpilder sorta reverse mirrors the shape of the front of the dread.....

BTW, I am riveting it now. Still think it needs more detail though so put your league issued thinking caps on......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 05:30:55


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oh, we were aloud to take them off??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 05:42:52


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:I really rather enjoy how the shape of the shpilder sorta reverse mirrors the shape of the front of the dread.....

BTW, I am riveting it now. Still think it needs more detail though so put your league issued thinking caps on......


Needs (for autocannons) an ejection port of some sort.
Needs (for Lascannons) Cabling

Might need: some sort of targeting optic.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 06:15:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


oooh, good idea Galorn.......


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Ok, ejection port top and bottom, rivets (not many admittedly but I may try to get this molded and cast so it had to be moldable) and a horrible paint job.


Well, thats everything a design master needs. what are you thouhts?











Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 07:39:26


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:oooh, good idea Galorn.......


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Ok, ejection port top and bottom, rivets (not many admittedly but I may try to get this molded and cast so it had to be moldable) and a horrible paint job.


Well, thats everything a design master needs. what are you thouhts?











not bad. It could use some more rivets, and a little more detail. (name scroll/plaque) purity seals, etc.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 08:59:47


Post by: lone dirty dog


Yes, the general look is good and the layout looks better, but needs a little more something, Rivets of course but something else.

As to what I am at a loss, space marines aint my thing so I am the wrong person to help, but i do feel it needs more.

Sorry I know it aint any help


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 12:04:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the vents look cool...and the amodrums looks very good...

the whole thing tho makes me want to make you redo the left "arm" too... for now it looks unbalanced...if you do a housing for the other arm similar to the one you did now it looks symetric again...this needs to be done asap!^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 12:14:13


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I agree that putting the ammo cases both on the side was the thing to do. I was thinking it and then looked at the photo below and well.. You got there before I did.

I agree with Vik that you should do something to the other side to ballance it out. I think that currently it is way off ballance but the custom arm is Way Cool!

I think some cables running to the body into the ammo/ batteries and some cables running to the base of the barrels would flesh it out alittle.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 12:32:58


Post by: Viktor von Domm


I think some cables running to the body into the ammo/ batteries and some cables running to the base of the barrels would flesh it out alittle.
second that!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 13:43:56


Post by: dsteingass


How does a Dreadnought reload those cans????

Does he have to stand around empty and wait for an ammo-bearing servitor? Or does he have some kind of reloading arm?


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Yeah, if those are lascannons, shouldn't it have a battery and power cable?- Those seem like autocannon ammo drums...But I suppose they could be batteries, they just need cables.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 15:00:37


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, yeah. they are autocannons. The lascannon barrels didn't feel right yet but these were feeling better to me.

This is just a design master. I intend to reverse it for the other side for twin twin-linked auto cannons.

I will also plasma and lascannons so that each arm has a version. stay tuned.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 15:05:37


Post by: dsteingass


oh...the angled flash suppressors suggested lascannons to me, sorry


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 15:11:30


Post by: mxwllmdr


Its ok. I want to redesign the muzzles anyway. i eas thinking something along the lines of a Barret .50cal muzzle break ratjer than a flash suppressor. a weapon like this isn't interested insuppressing flash anyway.


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Very good comment, Dave. thank you. If one person would mistake them than more would.


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Of course the venting would have to be reversed and the muzzles flipped (if I don't completely redesign the altogether).

which shape do you guys like better?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 18:09:55


Post by: Ovion


Looking at it, the 'shoulder casing' seems a little... stubby.
I feel that extending it out so it was as long as the flat plat on top of the dread would look better.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 18:28:19


Post by: Rogue Wolves


that shape isnt too bad actually


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:07:03


Post by: mxwllmdr


I need to extend it out anyway because the front vertical piece is interfered with by the disc on the body of the dread. I am trying to figure out how to do so while maintaining the overall shape. also, thinking about making the barrels closer and putting conical muzzle ends on ala an anti-aircraft gun. Maybe spring coils instead of heat shields?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:10:57


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Why not both?

the spring coils underneath a cowling. Much like the FW contemptor dread's conversion beamer.





Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:11:42


Post by: dsteingass


IS this just for you? Or for a commercial conversion kit?

If it is commercial, then I would try to make it instantly recognizable as GW weapons are, especially moreso for Marines (Marine equipment being so anally standardized as it is)

If it is for you, then do whatever you want! I like the Flared Muzzle idea.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:13:08


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Dave I think Max is doing it for a friend...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:14:43


Post by: mxwllmdr


SOOOOOOO< The Electro-Hawk is mailed off to Horst. Thanks to everyone for watching in.

This afternoon I will be assembling the main hulls and legs for 12 warhounds in a tutorial manner that will unfold in photos over the next two days.......

I will also, be posting the Bridgelayer and tank ohotos for reference here tonight.

They are all going to be in the gallery and since the vehicles are all public release information and taken by me feel free, when they are up, to copy any of them that strikes your need or fancy. And let me know if there is any other views or details you may need.

So, off to pick up my son for a doctor's appointment and then back here to BUILD BUILD BUILD.



I am going to be so happy to get this build done. I want to do so many other things. My buddies that are local are already planning an Apoc game that will use 8 10 of the dozen. That will def get posted here.......




SPEAKING OF WARHOUNDS:


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:16:57


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Dude, your like the terminator, except you build stuff... A LOT!!!



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:17:42


Post by: mxwllmdr




Jeremy is finally letting photos of the Khorne dedicated Mars Pattern leak out through his father. Good luck with your comic shop, Jeremy. Lookingvforward to seeing more of this bad boy. And congrats on the massive win this guy and Brother Paen's Brass Scorpion gave you.


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Not a great quality shot but I got it from his dad via cell. Hopefully more to come but with starting a business I would prefer he concentrate on that........



I actually prefer the enigizer bunny, Childe....


But thanks, I think.......


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Just saw this:



How cool is that?!??!??!?!?!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 19:40:53


Post by: RSJake


Max, you seem to be all over the map today. "oh! Look! A Bunny!"

The dread autocannons look good, you've already got a bunch of good comments and suggestions, but how about something like this for the muzzles of the autocannons?



It's pretty much what I think an autocannon is anyway.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 21:08:58


Post by: Rogue Wolves


god those stupid mimic treasure chests, hated them in every game they where in!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 21:09:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


uiiiii that khorne warhound is making some nice progress in paintland^^ i hope you are proud of all your work max!

the twisted dread arm looks interesting.... i might go so far as to say now it looks even better? hmmm... tho one thing is still unnerving me...the front sight on those barrels...? why? at all? because, the optics are allaround the place on a dread and he certainly wont need front sight at all?

and one other thing... the .50 berret sure has a surpressor to keep the flash as low as possible? or am i wrong here? and for the same reason i would suggest using this very muzzle look for your barrels...


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Rogue Wolves wrote:god those stupid mimic treasure chests, hated them in every game they where in!



actually that is the chest of the discworld novels...it is a very evil but powerful sidekick to one major character of that universe...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 21:52:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


Rogue Wolves wrote:god those stupid mimic treasure chests, hated them in every game they where in!


Vik, beat me to it.....

RSJake wrote:Max, you seem to be all over the map today. "oh! Look! A Bunny!"

The dread autocannons look good, you've already got a bunch of good comments and suggestions, but how about something like this for the muzzles of the autocannons?



It's pretty much what I think an autocannon is anyway.


This is how I always envisioned autocannons should look:



I am all over the place today. I have driven over 50 miles and never left the immediate vicinity of base. Here, there, there again and back to the other place...


Playing chauffer to three teenageres is getting old......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 21:55:58


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Dude! I know the feeling. It's like driving but never getting anywhere. Hey! It is driving and never getting anywhere!


I can't see your photo...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:03:37


Post by: RSJake


Oh, I dread the day my daughters get a social life, but have yet to learn to drive.

Then again, when they do learn to drive, I will be worried, but I least I won't have to drive them!

And driving age here is 14. There is no way 14 year olds can be trusted with a moving death machine!

I should know! I started driving at 14, no one should have given me that kind of power!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:04:48


Post by: Rogue Wolves


holy gak, 14??!?!?!?!??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:08:33


Post by: SilverHayabusa


14????


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What is the world coming to...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:09:38


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i thought 16 was young enough but 14!?!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:13:19


Post by: shrike


dude, I've seen some 14 year olds who'd ram other cars "for a laugh"! That's insane...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:17:46


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Vik, beat me to it.....


my pleasure^^

as for driving with 14??? omg... some teenagers i know are not even able to spread butter over a slice of bread...lest that i would hand them the keys to a car...heck i should know...as i tried driving until i decided i don´t want to^^


and i cant see the pic either...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:21:27


Post by: dsteingass


We have no choice but to drive over here, there is no public transport to speak of.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:25:50


Post by: mxwllmdr





Does that look better?





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That is what I see when I hear autocannons......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:30:41


Post by: DiDDe


Ain't that swedish bofors cannons?

And dsteingass, It sounds like you live in the middle of nowhere! ;D

Ever heard of a bicycle?
That's WAY safer for those little kids..


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:33:51


Post by: dsteingass


This Blog is on the Front Page!

No, it's a city, second largest in the State... just a sprawled city

No, bicycles are not safe, because of all the cars.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:37:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well in america i expect you need a car... but here... we have a car mainly to go shopping at IKEA or to visit the in-laws^^ so...

much better now max...and yep that look is a winner!!! reminds me of those old WWII anti aircraft guns we and you had...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:49:59


Post by: RSJake


shrike wrote:dude, I've seen some 14 year olds who'd ram other cars "for a laugh"! That's insane...

I did this when I was 14!!! That's why I'm worried!

Viktor von Domm wrote:as for driving with 14??? omg... some teenagers i know are not even able to spread butter over a slice of bread...lest that i would hand them the keys to a car......

I lol'd! But true!

mxwllmdr wrote:...

That will look awesome!

dsteingass wrote:No, bicycles are not safe, because of all the cars.

Same here, it might be safe on a bike if there weren't 14 year olds driving!
We have public transit, but it sucks.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 22:56:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


does public transit mean railroad service or just busses? i bet busses suck in the us for all those long distances inbetween... here in germany everything is closer together...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 23:20:25


Post by: dsteingass


Cities, schools, and churches have busses


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 23:24:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


churches have their own busses??? aha...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 23:25:15


Post by: lone dirty dog


We have public transport as long as you only want to go anywhere once, unless there are leaves on the track then you really are fethed


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/12 23:47:02


Post by: DiDDe


I love sweden even more now

Here we have plenty of busses

Not just in the cities.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/13 01:29:05


Post by: mxwllmdr


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Dave I think Max is doing it for a friend...




A friend that happens to own his own mini company........


Yes it is for commercial conversion...


If it turns out well enough....


I am having trouble with aesthetics, though... i got a little time though....


Yes they are sewdish guns, DiDDe....

This will probably be cast in pewter so fewest number of pieces and nothing really thin can work....


Dave, did you see my blog on the front page? I didn't.... hmmmmm.... I will look again.....


I have three sons, 18, 16 and 13 years old. They will never drive anything I own........





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Through the night the 11 Mars patterns and 1 Lucius will be getting together. I had hoped to start sooner today but things conspired against me......

Monday, regardless of the state of cmpletion the warhounds have reached, I will switch gears for a day or two and begin a thunderhawk and two or three more Reavers. Two or three depends on how I feel about all that plastic bending at the moment I start them.....

Will not be around at all over the next three days but I will be working so expect a hella update Sunday night/Monday morning timeframe.......

For now, gotta get some grub.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/13 13:19:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*rubs hands* well i´ll be there to watch those marching hounds!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/13 17:16:26


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Probably because its easier to ask than on my own thread as more people follow this one.....

What is the length and width of a Thunderhawk gunship?

What is the length and width of a Stormraven gunship?

Inches only please


thanking you in advance



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/13 17:40:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


A FW Thunderhawk measures 19 inches long and 17 inches wide.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/13 18:27:29


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Thanks max... Trying to get ideas together for scenery... and well, I was considering a scratch built landing pad on struts. so was considering making it for either thunder hawk size or stormraven.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 14:32:17


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, Good luck with that, UAC. I hope it goes well for you.

I am BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hopefully over the next two days I will stand up 12 warhounds, three Reavers and the body and wings of a thunderhawk.

I know, I know....


I have said these things before.

On top of all this I am getting ready for a tourney this weekend that has over 200 dollars in prizes AND the weekly FNM and Modern tourneys at my FLGS.

I will be running a dual lash list that has the potential to run away with the tourney. I am hoping no one brings any Stormravens.....


Ok, so where I stand.....





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ok so i know there are only ten there. patience is a virtue.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 14:38:37


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


haha crazy! Lets see if your output matches your ambition!

Good luck at the tourney.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 14:43:01


Post by: Rawson


mxwllmdr wrote:Hopefully over the next two days I will stand up 12 warhounds, three Reavers and the body and wings of a thunderhawk.

So let me do some math here: with a few assumptions (like titans take the same amount of time to build, and you don't require any sleep) that leaves 3.2 hours for each titan
mxwllmdr wrote:I know, I know....

So you already knew that, huh?

Good luck on your mega project of creation and sleep deprivation, Max!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 14:43:15


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh it will.....


I am actually having a fed up crisis with people that don't do what they say they will so I am determined to compete this one........


then move on to bigger and better things....


And here we have a good start on the leg pieces and toes with the final two main hulls....




Ok, a fair number of people have asked about certain parts of my building so some tut shots up soon. I actually had hoped to have the =]_,= Article up soon but have missed the deadline......

I am still writing it though and will get back to it this evening.....







Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 14:44:11


Post by: dsteingass


Do you have some sort of a part pattern or blueprint you are working from?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:16:39


Post by: mxwllmdr


I am using the templates I made from my Khorne pattern for the mars and for the one Lucius I am using my templates from the Twin Lucius build. I think it will go quick once the grind of the main construction is finished.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:21:02


Post by: dsteingass


That's good, but what did you make the original templates from?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:23:28


Post by: mxwllmdr


Direct Observation of the actual models. It was a bear. I know mine aren't 100% accurate but they will look good. I am hoping this is the absolute last Titan build I do. I know I won't need anymore....


I think the reaver is the only one that I did not get hands on time with a real FW model in order to plan.




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:24:12


Post by: dsteingass


Wow man, that's real talent!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:26:49


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thank you, Dave. But really it isn't. The real talent lies in coming up with something all your own. Like you and Vik. That is why I am starting to take other jobs. No real major income but I get to design things and if the get accepted by the buyers than I know I am on the right track.


I can't wait to start the Knight set.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:28:57


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oooh! Knights! What direction are you heading with them?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:33:16


Post by: dsteingass


yeah it is man! I know, I built my Stalingrad ruins directly from old b&W photos, not everyone can just do that!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:33:58


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well, see thats the question. I want them to be Knight world Knights but with a newer feel. I kinda liked where Silver was going with his but i think I am gonna need them to be a little bit more imposing.


What are your thoughts. After all, if they get bought, then they will be commercially available and player feedback in a model has always made them better.


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Dave, where are the Stalingrad ruins posted at?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:37:33


Post by: Rawson


With all of this talk of clients and whatnot, will you also be joining the ranks of casters? Or will you stick to your normal "scratchbuild-everything-like-a-champ" modus operandi?
mxwllmdr wrote:I can't wait to start the Knight set.

That sound rather exciting! Where does one find stats for a Knight? I've asked many, many folks and no one can give me an answer. Are they just fluffy?

BTW, shouldn't you be building titans instead of rambling on Dakka?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:38:12


Post by: dsteingass


Honestly, If I were you, I'd design the Knight as pre-Heresy..that way when GW releases more official Knight kits (and you know they will, b/c marines are not OP enough already ) yours will not be obsolete.



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Rawson, they introduced Knights in the Horus Heresy Novels, then they released a kit for the latest Grey Knights codex. More are definately coming from GW.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:41:17


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Theres rules for knights in a bols apoc supplement, as well as tempus fugitives admech codex. I personally use the admech version, more balanced imo.

I subscribe to the school of thought that knights should be around 6-7". When i made my warden thats what i aimed for. I dislike the ones that almost hit warhound height.

bigdaddy made some awesome knights a while back, which looked pretty damn cool.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:42:07


Post by: mxwllmdr


PHH was always the plan. Yes, I am rambling and working. Stats can be found on BoLS I believe.....

Yes, I am joining the ranks of caster. My will be shipping out cast sets of all my models to the "guy".

I am hoping that my supplies arrive soon. But not crossing any fingers. I have had to set up a lot of systems I didn't already have to make this freelance gig work for me....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:43:35


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Are you gonna aim for Mars pattern, lucius or something else entirely?

edit: Oh yeah, and as an aside, i quite like using mine with the same rules as FWs Mega Dreads.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:43:51


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:Rawson, they introduced Knights in the Horus Heresy Novels, then they released a kit for the latest Grey Knights codex. More are definately coming from GW.

Ah ha! You mean that Dreadknight is not just a bad play on words? (GW Exec. Pitch: "It's like a Dreadnaught, but different") Leave it to me to assume that GW did something stupid instead of cool


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Also, thanks Vit and Max for the stat links


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:49:45


Post by: dsteingass


It's actually a pretty cool kit IMHO. They aren't sarcophagaii like Dreadnoughts, regular guys pilot them like a sentinel, but they have the neuro impulse controls like a titan.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:54:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


I agree on the height thing, too, Vit, but fluff puts them around 8-9". which is just short of 2 or so inches short of a warhound. But 6-8 makes sense in the Dreadknight sort of way. Problem is wiht the knights the pilot is completely enclosed. Not strapped like a baby in a harness to the front. this would lead one to believe that the kngihts had to be a bit bigger than dreadknights because all that cockpitting around the pilot makes for bulk and there is no seemingly unneccesary bulk around the knights I have seen produced. Hence, an obviuosly larger frame and therefore stature. So that proportions are accurate....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:55:15


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Btw, a dreadknight is not a regular admech knight. Afaik, knights were pretty much single pilot titans.

edit: ninja'd


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 15:59:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, and Knights predate the whole Mars versus Lucius thing.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:01:23


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Hmm yeah, but that doesnt mean you cant take visual cues.

For those interested, heres a good bit of info about Knights:

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight


edit: btw, sorry if im coming over a bit heavy handed! Just very interested in anything admech


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:03:40


Post by: mxwllmdr


No, not at all. I very much appreciate the input. I want these models to be wanted by the general public so heavy hand away and get on down with your bad self.....


I posted that link just a few minutes ago.....LOL


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:05:38


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oh really? Reading fail....

I think this is one of my favourite takes on the knight ive seen thus far:

Spoiler:


edit: Although it could be improved in many ways, primarily bulking up the leg mechanics.

If there was one thing id ask you to do, it would be to not make the legs weedy. SO many scratch titans suffer from stick-thin-leg-itis imo.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:09:09


Post by: mxwllmdr


I agree. I rather like the Anime-esque big feet.


Not a reading fail, btw, I posted it in a different thread.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:11:16


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oh well that makes me feel better.

That comes from this thread btw.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/255489.page

He mentions those are around 7"


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:12:12


Post by: Rawson


mxwllmdr wrote:Not a reading fail, btw, I posted it in a different thread.....

Thanks for clarifying: I thought I'd missed it also!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 16:13:43


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, it was in Slivehayabusas thread I believe. you would know that if you were conducting yourself as the rest of the League does. IE go thread to thread like locus.....LOL


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 17:22:11


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


probably jumping in when someone else has said this, but Knights not only pre date the heresy, the date back to the age of technology before Terra was cut off by warp storms, as Admechs went out to the stars to share their knowledge. Then all contact was lost, and the former imperial worlds fell to fudal systems. at which points knights then fought against the emperor when the great crusade was undertook.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:17:57


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yep. Using all that to put my knight sets together so that theyvare in keeping with fluff.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:36:35


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Feudal Knights FTW!!!



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:47:23


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Eh, ive never cared for that fluff personally. In the fluff for my Forge World, Bhosfopor, the AdMech assimilated the feudal world, and inducted the Knight Households into the Legio Interfectorem (my titan legion).


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:50:48


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Tbh, the fluff makes perfect sense. the admech left terra a few years before the warp storms, so when they taught the info to the worlds they went to, what else were they going to do in their millennia of isolation? Knit?






Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:54:26


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, I have some reading yet to do but I am looking foward to getting started.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 18:57:56


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oh yeah the fluff makes sense, i just chose to ignore canon for my Forge World


edit: Just saw you added baby to the title. win.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 19:03:16


Post by: SilverHayabusa


mxwllmdr wrote:I agree on the height thing, too, Vit, but fluff puts them around 8-9". which is just short of 2 or so inches short of a warhound. But 6-8 makes sense in the Dreadknight sort of way. Problem is wiht the knights the pilot is completely enclosed. Not strapped like a baby in a harness to the front. this would lead one to believe that the kngihts had to be a bit bigger than dreadknights because all that cockpitting around the pilot makes for bulk and there is no seemingly unneccesary bulk around the knights I have seen produced. Hence, an obviuosly larger frame and therefore stature. So that proportions are accurate....



I agree whole heartedly with this.

I want the titans that I'm designing to be heavy and imposing with non of that spindel stick legedness!
However to have to feel of being fast and highly reflexive.

I'm thinking that they should be around 8-9" so like you said max they'll feel proportioned corectly.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 19:31:24


Post by: dsteingass


The beginning chapter of Mechanicum gives a great visual of how Knights move when they tell the story of the day the Emperor landed on Mars.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 19:32:09


Post by: mxwllmdr


There were seven of them. Not all of them were heavies.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 21:17:03


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I'm currently reading Mechanicum. Loving it.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 21:46:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah good to see you all going creative and productive...

atm i am at a loss as to what you are currently doing here max^^ as i cant really see what is what... but i am patinet (no really^^) and will wait and see what develops...^^

and i think this is about the biggest project here on this forum to be tackled in one go...i cross my fingers for your strength to be not fade!


as for weedy legs..just to check during your current discusion? would my knight have too thin a set of legs? or just right? i am curious...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/18 23:14:36


Post by: Rogue Wolves


ooaoaaaaaaw sheet what do we have going on with this thread!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 03:56:34


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks Vik, but it isn't my strength or resolve that need be doubted. It is whether or not I can get my wifes hoenydo list honeydone so that I can actually work on it....



RW, We got a lot going on here. Unfortunately my whole afternoon and evening was wasted.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 07:43:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


argh.... i thought i get a nice fresh update form your direction...that made me sleep sound... no i see i was living a lie...

only joking... yerp..and i guess with more free time the honeydo list grows bigger´n´bigger


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 09:32:09


Post by: lone dirty dog


YAY Max is back more large PC goodness and great quantise of abuse

You have a task ahead of you sir that I do not envy, however I am intrigued to see the development and the time management control


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 12:25:05


Post by: mxwllmdr


I am off this bright and early morning to get those long promised photos of all that lovely riveted armor that sits around base. I am thinking that I may not put the photos here but on my photobucket in their own album so that you guys that want them can just download the whole album.....


Be back soon.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 13:55:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok, I am back. The photos are going in this link:



http://s1184.photobucket.com/albums/z334/mxwllmdr/Armor/


Feel free to DL any or all of them. Let me know if you need or want any more specific shots and there are a lot of them and they are still uploading so it may take a while to get them all uploaded.....


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For some reason, I thought of Dave when I took these.....





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And this is the one that was picked up and thrown by the tornado:






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Look at all the lovely rivets......




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 15:24:33


Post by: dsteingass


Lovely Rivets!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 15:39:19


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Amazing...
Just so darn lovely...

*Runs off to looks at the gallery.*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/19 22:19:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


is that an abrahams?
And this is the one that was picked up and thrown by the tornado:
he got thrown around by a tornado??? WTF??...man...good to be living then in germany i think... i wouldn´t want to face storms with that much energy to toss tanks around...

and the rocket launcher system... looks weird... very basic design... what does it shoot with? AA? or AT?


and...


i hope you don´t get into trouble for these pics...?

off to look through the gallery...


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jsut looked through your gallery... nice collction of tanks there...all are kind of show room models now? ...and as i understood the tossed around by raging winds tank was a flamethrower tank...a hellhound so to speak?

the grizzley...is that a minefield seek and destroy tank? (dunno the right term for that...)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 02:43:19


Post by: mxwllmdr


Not an abrams, a sherman. no trouble. They are all released to public....

Grizzly is an engineer vehicle for route amd obstacle clearance. Hellhound. Yes thats accurate. These things were brutal though.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 02:45:13


Post by: Rogue Wolves


The good ol' sherman, nice tank collection you have there mxw! Where were these boys taken at?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 02:52:25


Post by: mxwllmdr


Fort Leonard Wood, missourri. Lost in the Woods.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 02:54:59


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Thats right, your in the military right, Army?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 03:22:56


Post by: mxwllmdr


For 23 years now. I love it. Can't wait to retire though....


LOL.........


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 03:50:19


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^good on ya, got alot of family in/or was in military (airforce and army mostly), one of my cousins is going for his 3rd tour i think, after collage and is going to stay with the army for his carrer, my plan was to go to the military, untill of course my mind changed to film..


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 08:01:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:For 23 years now. I love it. Can't wait to retire though....


LOL.........



lol...

i gathered as much that they would be open to public as all those explaining placards in front of the tanks hinted that...or americans have some weird sense of vehicle depots^^

and yep...those flame thrower tanks were pretty brutal...but that is trnch warfare...it always is nasty as hell...and as everybody did it so why dont yours too^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/20 22:54:14


Post by: RSJake


Ok, you're talking Military, and the Air Force was mentioned! I have to post this!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/21 06:02:33


Post by: mxwllmdr


That is whole hairy @$$, my friend......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/21 12:30:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


best line...

hoo-ra

hoo-ah

uh-oh...



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/24 09:24:15


Post by: mxwllmdr


------Update------

------Coming Soon------

------As well as the promised mini tutorial------


Lots o' work has been accomplished on the mass build.....


I know I am behind my self set schedule but it will work out I am sure.........



Brother Paen, LSG, the time is nigh.....


The time for your assistance is now at hand..........


Three days.....


And counting......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/24 12:27:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


*looks at finger on each hand...*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/24 23:40:11


Post by: spankyspank


Ahh man, lets see more...we wants it....wez needs it.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/25 01:41:01


Post by: Brother Paen


Roger, ready to report to Titan depot..." raise the rivet gun high, and let slip the Hounds-of-War !!!"



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/25 04:26:59


Post by: tme0003


Looking forward to what you got coming up there bud. Also phenomenal work on that Hawk, look absolutely incredible.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/25 04:28:52


Post by: Capitansolstice


Brother Paen wrote:Roger, ready to report to Titan depot..." raise the rivet gun high, and let slip the Hounds-of-War !!!"


oh boy


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/25 06:59:02


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks Tme.....



And Cappy....



And Brother Paen, tried calling you for the better have of the afternoon..... Where you been? I need you now......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 05:47:14


Post by: mxwllmdr


OK, been a while but I am ready to start showing some things....


THis isn't the full update that is coming Friday but I hope you guys will like it.....


If you haven't unsubbed by now....


LOL....


Ok starting with the Legio (as opposed to the Adeptus) Custodes....

The main idea is to incorporate as much of the PHH iconography as I can without going into plastic shock. The Custodes are some of the most heavily adorned SM's out there....


My Ideas:



Kinda crappy drawing but want I wanted was to have that over the top kinda detail on the carapace and have it blend with the detail on the one shinguard. I am gonna leave one shin guard blank though for contrast...

The shin guard on this one would have an Iron cross with a large Custodes aquila behind it. The head of the aquila would be sticking out the front top edge of the shin guard for a sense of 3D depth....



THe plans are based around this aquila^


The PHH 1K Sons have very limited iconography that I can find. If anyone has any images please share. For now I am working on this:



I like the way these look but am also considering reversing where the images are. IE... the small round Scarab on the shin guard and the winged one on the carapace instead. I would like your thoughts on this guys.

I am also looking at these images as potentials instead:






Again, I would like your thoughts on these as well, but it may well boil down to what I can actually physically do. Some of the images are very in depth and I don't think my Cricut can do them. I may have to do it the old fashioned way like I did on the Reavers.......


THe plans for the Iron Warriors is gonna be up Friday as well as a butt load of other photos and progress reports. I am gonna have some tutorial stuff to put up Sunday or Monday.....


I am beginning to think that I may never be on time with my updates for this project....




Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 08:56:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well....(secretly subscribing again )

the designs all look good...but i am totally with you one the physically possible issue... much of the PHH details look fiddly beyond anything i could hope to do... maybe you would be able to do that...depends of course how big the actual individual detail would be...if it is monotorsized like i see them then i still think you might want to do either a simpler form of these (that would be sad as i think they all look very good!) or change the methode? maybe GS? i bet there is a whole lot more being possible by this...

one thing tho... i am still in most regards a noob for the style of 40k...but the big scarab of the first PHH 1k sons reminds me strongly to tau design...maybe it is due to the shape of the scarab...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 09:03:29


Post by: Rawson


Perhaps I'm a bit behind in my Knight fluff. Are Knights attached to a particular SM chapter?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 11:08:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Knights, Rawson? these are for warhounds. but, yes a knight could be chapter specific just like a dreadnaught or termie armour.

Vik, yes what you see on the monitor is a scan of actual size. I think that one thing I want to try is a thick.self adhesive vinyl sheet cut with the cricut. the image needs a little cleanup beforebthe cricut can do it but not much. the wide winged one would be layered too so that is another hurdle to overcome but I think it can work....

I also thought of GS but I just ain't that good with it yet.....


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I really liked the idea of an ouroboros.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 12:17:37


Post by: Rawson


mxwllmdr wrote:Knights, Rawson? these are for warhounds. but, yes a knight could be chapter specific just like a dreadnaught or termie armour.

Sorry, missed the transition

mxwllmdr wrote:


I like the way these look but am also considering reversing where the images are. IE... the small round Scarab on the shin guard and the winged one on the carapace instead. I would like your thoughts on this guys.

Wouldn't it be easier to switch them? The horizontal wings would be really hard to get right on the shin guards, I think.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 12:25:03


Post by: Capitansolstice


Impressive!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 12:38:32


Post by: mxwllmdr


I am thinking more and more to switch them....


Thanks, Cappy, Ambitious, yes. But not impressive until I pull it off.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 19:37:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouroboros.... do you realize that your thread is the one i have to look up words the most??? you always come up with words i never heard of^^ quite the educational thread you have going here^^

but after looking it up i totally agree with you...that ouroboros would be a cool icon for a special chapter!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 20:16:01


Post by: mxwllmdr


I find myself dping that with blackadders thread....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 20:37:42


Post by: dsteingass


Vik...you are suggesting GS more nowadays as miracle cure-alls than rivets!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 20:56:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm





on second thought... make your iconography purly out of rivets... instant win guaranteed...


have i redeemed myself?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 21:20:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


a bum that has fallen off due to a laugh that went on uncontrolled is not a case against the person that has caused the laugh in the first place...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 21:48:07


Post by: mxwllmdr


I could make it out of rivets but then there wouldn't be any left for the other 11 warhounds......




How crazy a statement was that?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 21:48:40


Post by: dsteingass


??..I understood it perfectly!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 21:51:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


but...there is always more rivtes out there??? or do you mean there will be one day an end to the riveting??? *sobs*


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 22:46:35


Post by: DiDDe


Don't you have 2 loyal minions that you can put on a rivet-making-spree? never have to worry about those 11 other ones! ;D

And in the end of the day you can reward them with a couple of rivets they just made so that they can build something nice themselves..

Win win for you imho..


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 23:14:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


Haha, yes I do......



Thanks for the reminder....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/26 23:29:30


Post by: dsteingass


Throw em a few packages of evergreen and a package of fresh x-acto knives and tell em to get busy!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 00:44:34


Post by: Rogue Wolves


nice designs max, if you cant find many designs for those thousand suns, look at some egyptian stuff and make em up!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 04:55:50


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh yeah, it's def crunch time. I gotta get this project further along..

Dave, Glad someone understands...

Vik, there are always MOAR! rivets.... I was of course kidding.......

RW, thanks man....

DiDDe, I plan on rewarding them with warhounds. But I like your idea better.......

And Supply Drop:




All this after a RARE trip to an actual physical location with a hobby shop......


I also picked this up to see if the winged scarab can be done thick enough to have good detail in it:




I am hoping that it is thick enough to show all the layers and the individual feathers after painting it. I will use the cricut to get the shapes out and transfer it with masking tape. I am hoping that it works because if not then I have to cut whatever design I settle on by hand....


Ouch......




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Any tips out there for using the Alumilite?


I am hoping to cast up the final product on the Dreadnaught weapons this weekend so I can send a master away......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 09:51:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nice suply drop... what is that stuff in the big centre package? Talus something?

is that vinyl easier cut than PC?

and with your already old enough kids i am truly amazed you haven´t initiated them into the scratchbuilding work already....?

there is no telling where your production line would be if you had your three sons working for their dad in unision...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 14:15:19


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah talus like a course basing sand.....


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Oh and only one of my sons hqs the qrtistic abilityvto scratch and all he cares about is girls.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 14:22:00


Post by: dsteingass


....you can't really blame him, we were all that way.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 14:23:08


Post by: mxwllmdr


True dat....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 14:47:59


Post by: dsteingass


I often think about all the wasted free time I had back then, I could have used it to rivet...but nooo...I had to chase the cats too!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 17:13:06


Post by: mxwllmdr


Vik the vinyl.is easybto cut but veryvthin. like thin card stock so detail on it is hader to get I imagine....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 19:03:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


aha... ok...i guess we´ll have to be patient to see what you can achive with that stuff then...

well...who said you needed workers with artistic skills or interestes... slavery i am talking about

as on a side note? you got thicker fingers or a smaller mobile?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 20:55:24


Post by: dsteingass


He's probably got CA encrusted fingers


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/27 20:57:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm...that might be a clue...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 01:23:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yes, guessing is a good skill to have.....

yes small mobile, yes fat fingers, yes CA encrusted fingers....



And its been a bad day here. Weather has mu migtaines actng up again and my joints locking up....

Update that was promised.today will be out late tonight...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 02:38:41


Post by: Capitansolstice


mxwllmdr wrote:
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Oh and only one of my sons hqs the qrtistic abilityvto scratch and all he cares about is girls.....

And thats why I found a girl that looks good, but loves 40k too!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 02:54:05


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Im quite surprised you could find a girl in your age range that likes 40k, the only ones i know of are 10-20 years older than me :( ... and the ones that are good looking, are already taken by 40k players... not suprised


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 03:36:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


My wife is a looker too, but hates all things RPG/Wargaming/DnD/MTG.....


Leaves me time away from her that is much needed after 19 years marriage......



Migraine is driving me to bed, ya'll....


Update for today is gonna hafta happen tomorrow....


More time for me to finish up a few things...



On the Docket (as a Teaser):

My buddy, Paintstuff, airbrushed a couple my demon princes. I did up a base and, yes, I have actually painted it....


Not that I did well....


The titans are coming along but not ready to stand up, but there will be pics.....


And hopefully the Dread weapons will be ready to cast and I can pic up some of that process.......


Hope ya'll tune in......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 03:38:40


Post by: dsteingass


..Even the Fabricator General needs R&R if the forge is to remain productive.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 03:44:49


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^^
enjoy the migrane, i hate them things, i never go a week without a couple.. get one everytime i come home from GW


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 03:51:16


Post by: mxwllmdr


AND the forge isn't remaining productive right now either.....


Man, I thought going on leave would be relaxing....



LIES!!!!!!!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/28 03:57:30


Post by: Rogue Wolves


lol (insert saluting orkmoticon here)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/29 21:46:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah...sucks... well i hope you feel better soon max! from what i´ve heard migranes are a major pain in the...er...head^^

it is probably the weather too...? today we had 29° C here...after a week of coldness that gives some nice body reactions too...


and did i read that right??? you painted...and even demon princes...a couple of these???

paint? on this thread?...*looks again*


???


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/04/30 01:51:50


Post by: Rogue Wolves


lololololol


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 18:55:31


Post by: dsteingass


I know you're working on those titans over there, but no pics?? WTF?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 19:11:24


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i stayed home today for some rest, which means yea after i work on some various terrainy things i'll get pics of them, titan stuff ect. although the plan is to be getting the pvc structure built up this week


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 19:49:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah do that RW...


max...? you there? i am beginning to look a bit worried about your well being...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 20:18:03


Post by: mxwllmdr


I am here. please understand that a very good business oppurtunity came up and sorta disrupted my whole idea of a plan.....


I am working on the titans but it has been slow going on the main construction phase but now that the vast majority of it is done the actual standing up and detailing will go quicker....

It took about four hours to detail the toes for the two Iron Warriors themed warhounds and I expect that when it comes down to the custodes and thousand sons preheresy themed duo that the non custom detail will take less than that. then the custom detail for them will be fairly quick as well.....


I have also started another thunderhawk but it won't have any interior or lights. I am also standing up two or three more reavers starting soon. I expect that the main construction without much detail or rivets will go quickly for those because the templates I made for them are fairly complete and easy to follow....

i am behind schedule on these, I know, bit I am hoping to have them mostly complete in three weeks....

Priority goes to the one reaver, the thunderhawk, the twin Iron Warriors and the custodes and 1K sons....

aftr that I will finish my four (2 nurgle and 2 khorne) and my two reavers.....

My leave is officially over today and I will be back to work and I am sorta glad. It seems that I got more time to build when I had to be at work. Also, I will be around more on the threads....

when I do finally update I will be showing the IW wahounds and all tue pieces of the others and I will be ahowing my first commercially available work.... I am not sure when it will hot the website but hopefully not too far off....


In the meantime, consider please my next commercial project for your input and thouhts.....

A preheresy land speeder with minigun and rocket options as well as a passenger seated gunner weapons platform with two or three weapons options.....


The buyer is very interested in this project so design on it will be extensively researched.....

I already have a fairly solid idea what I want to do with it but player input is also very highly prized.....



@Dave, Thank you very much for your concern. I know I haven't been living up to the league expectations and it is a mix of overload in family needs (which obviously cannot be ignored) and the fact that this vacation was apparantly needed for more reasons than gtting away from work....

I assure you that I still wish to represent the League with a good strong scratch building article and constant flow of regularly scheduled updates on a variety of project aimed to improve my skills and entertain and educate the masses....

I wonder how many have unsubbed, as a result of my staycation? I hope no one is dissappointed......

I am still here and active.......

somewhat, LOL....


@RW, you huilding Titans?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 20:31:43


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hey mate! take it easy! you could never make something that lets the league down! your talent, dedication and wit are the core values of the league! not the productivity is what made us wonder but your long absence and your recent mentioning of health issues... i hope these have bettered!

your schedule sounds as if you are somehow have so many workers at your command^^

the new project sounds very good! seems your recent work for the dreadnoughts arms paved the way for much smaller projects? sounds very interesting to say the least!


good luck with that perticular endeavor!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/04 21:32:19


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i've made about 99.9% less rivets then you so dont think you're letting anyone down, and yes... an emperor titian


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 03:27:07


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok so Horst has gotten back to me on the finecast Abbadon I sent his way for a coat of very fine coat







Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 03:46:39


Post by: dsteingass


No worries man! You gotta do what you gotta do!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 03:46:42


Post by: Rogue Wolves


that looks sweet, i like the face alot


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 11:31:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


soooo.... who´s done that mini? you or horst? the claws look very good...but my beady eye sees a horrible atrcity... a mold line on the sword...even the choas gods wont overlook this!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 14:49:45


Post by: HAZZER


Nice abbdon!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 14:59:08


Post by: Horst


I painted it... and the mold line is barely noticeable on the actual model ><

pictures make everything worse.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 16:39:42


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah dude that mold line has to be a trick of the.light cause I remember trimming him out and it worried me silly about breaking that sword getting it off but did a good job....

I will get photos of the Demon Prince that Paintstuff did for me up soon....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 21:07:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


was just teasing you mate... ´t is a fine looking mini!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/06 21:10:51


Post by: Capitansolstice


A coat for a very fine coat?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/07 23:39:54


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHA^^


I didn't realize I had done that......


LOLZ


Thanks for the laugh Cappy.....


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Ok, so I got an update for ya’ll. So Let me get into it cause it has been so long:

I am currently standing up the Iron Warrior Warhounds. They are ready for the finishing detailing and engine pods:




Of course, there is still a lot to do and I haven’t gotten the Thunderhawk frame or Reaver together yet:




I will be starting them soon, but I have had to prioritize with my time a lot lately.

Below is an idea of the Pre heresy Thousand Sons emblem that I want to put on LSG’s on Warhound. The cricut cut it for me.....

I still have yet to get a good plan for the Custodes but I am close….



And, finally, the item that has messed up my whole timeline on things…..

Below are pics of the Dreadnaught autocannons I have done up for my buddy with the business…. (you may have heard of Chapterhouse, no?)

I am going to redo the barrels before I ship them out tomorrow but just to tighten up the coiling a little…..



AND, Paintstuff (who is recovering well now from back surgery) has painted some on my Demon Princes. I made and painted the base on the wingless one but all the airbrushing is his. I think he is fantastic and getting better. I plan on having him paint up other things I do…….










Ok, so I know it has been a while and that I am way behind schedule (yes, when building for others you must maintain a schedule) but I am getting healthier and have more time for building on my hands starting tomorrow.....






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Oh, and soon, I hope to have Paint on this thread that I did....


I should try harder for WIP shots......


Anyone have any good preheresy Custodes images for reference? I am having trouble finding good ones that I can use.....


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Hoping Paintstuff can finish the second prince soon.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 01:45:36


Post by: dsteingass


Holy Gak!!! WOW What an update man! I can only have nightmares about doing all that 3 times!!

Niice Cricut work too!!

I have the Horus Heresy Artwork book..I'll snap you a few pics man!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 01:48:52


Post by: Rogue Wolves


me love you long time.. well your models at least, those princes look really cool, and i love how its going with your titans, why couldnt my hobby ADD start me off with something more reasonible like that ... oh well


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 01:59:13


Post by: dsteingass


reference










I don't know what the significance/difference between the conehead helmets and the kaiser-type helmets though. It captions the kaiser-type helmets as the Custodes command squad though (broken into 2 pics/pages)


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 01:59:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey, At least I was able to stave off that particularly forceful desire, RW. Referring obviously to your Warlord project...

And Dave, I don't have to do it three times. I have to do it four times. Looking forward to the PICS......



But I love it, man, I love it.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 02:02:19


Post by: dsteingass


cross-post


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 02:11:51


Post by: mxwllmdr


Wow, that was quick.... Thanks Dave.....



I like the Winged Iron Cross and the LIghtening bolt star......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 02:16:18


Post by: dsteingass


np..The book and camera were handy
Every time GW publishes an art book, they are always worth the money, I highly recommend them!

I have The Horus Heresy Collected Visions, The Art of Warhammer 40k, and The Emperor's Will.

For some reason, they are always a limited run for some reason. I had my hands on both the Liber Chaotica and the Art of The Sabbat Worlds Crusade, but didn't get them and regretted it.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 02:39:46


Post by: Rogue Wolves


wow I need those art books, I've taken a skim through the emperor's will and that has some great pics in them


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 02:43:36


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ivwill have to look them up. Thanks again Dave.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 15:28:26


Post by: mxwllmdr


Quick Update. Work done this morning before returning to work....


LOL I kill me...








All the leg and toe pistons are done and at lunch I will add in the hip pistons and maybe the pelvis detail. This will call the lower half done for these two minus the shin guards and a little bit of detail I have planned but not designed.....


See ya at lunch.....


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Oh, and Dave, Brother Paen has that book so I will be looking at it directly soon. I am hoping he has many more like you do so that the reference of them will be easy.


Should have started doing this hobby years ago.......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 17:25:20


Post by: Imperial Renegade


Looking good! Man your skills with plasticard are amazing! To bad you cant build a Tyranid Harridian out of plasticard...I would have commisioned you to do it if I ever got the money.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 17:35:10


Post by: dsteingass


Is that a Martin Acoustic in the background Max??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 18:08:36


Post by: mxwllmdr


No, Dave, Not a Martin. Better in many aspects, though. It is a Lotus 1992 Dreadnaught. Sought after, now after 20 years, for up to 8 times its original price for its sustain and tone in studio recordings. I was once offered $4000.00 for it by a well known, yet to remain unnamed, artist with whom I am aquainted. That guitar was my wife's, then girlfriends, first Valentines day present to me 20 years ago and only retailed for about $200.00....

Martin, on the otherhand, sells for that new and has a much better tone off the factory floor. It is a shame the Lotus had to age to get its tone....

What you can't see in the photos is the Kerry King BC Rich that happens to be autographed by Queensryche.....

Man I love that guitar....

I also have a British made Acoustic Electric and a Fender Starcaster.....

Both Fine guitars in their own right...



Imperial Renegade wrote:
Looking good! Man your skills with plasticard are amazing! To bad you cant build a Tyranid Harridian out of plasticard...I would have commisioned you to do it if I ever got the money.


I can and I will be. I happen to love the Harridan model and have planned extensively to do my own....


Same with the Caestes. for some reason that model reminds me so much of Bladerunner and The Chroni(what)cles of Riddick.....


Anyway, more work done while home at lucnh away from work....





I didn't get to the rest of the pelvis detail done, or started for that matter, but I will soon......


More after work.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 18:15:13


Post by: dsteingass


Very cool! I have an Alvarez Dreadnought, amazing sound for a lower-end acoustic.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 19:59:59


Post by: mxwllmdr


I have found I prefer lower end guitars....


The sound can be manipulated with a mix of strings and by deadening the body with a small sand bag or such and they have a certain feel to them.....

A certain je ne sais quoi.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 20:34:05


Post by: dsteingass


I haven't played too many expensive models myself, but a guy who is used to playing Martins and Gibsons all his life played my Alvarez and was blown away by how well a $300 guitar performed and sounded. That's gotta say something about them.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 20:45:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


I like Alvarez. I haven't played many expensive ones either, but a few really nice Gretchs....

Oh, and one Stratocaster that was really nice but I was very young and didn't know what I had or was doing...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 20:52:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hellllllooooo max! now i see you are up and about again! and boy aren´t you? that seems as if your scratchbuilding spirits are again in full spring! love the work you do on the new titans! did i read you right? you now work with chaperhouse on the dreadnaught pieces! congratz mate!

by the way...seeing your work...one has to realize how much fiddly work you do on such a production line modus operandi... that is truly fascinating...to say the least... to be able to chuck out repeatedly such fne quality is an amazing feat... now cobble that together with the endproducts you are capable to come up with... awsome is just such a tiny word for such a phenomenon...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 21:11:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks, Vik....


I appreciate it because when this project is done I intend to start pumping out a lot of different little things that I think will test my flexibility.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 21:40:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


....hhhmmmmm.... somehow this talk about flexibility makes me feel all akward now...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 22:21:44


Post by: Imperial Renegade


I second that....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 22:24:38


Post by: Capitansolstice


C.house and paintstuff? congrats!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 23:10:06


Post by: Rogue Wolves


thems some perdy legs your titans have, and its not just because they are white... no racists in cat land!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 23:22:32


Post by: mxwllmdr


Well. That was random....


Why would anyone assume racism in catland? Everyone knows cats hate everyone equally


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 23:24:24


Post by: Rogue Wolves


mxwllmdr wrote:Well. That was random....


Why would anyone assume racism in catland? Everyone knows cats hate everyone equally


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/08 23:51:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


as my favorite author said... man is just a tincanopener with two very large noseholes on top...from a cats perspective...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 05:48:18


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok, not much of an update tonight (DWTS with the wife, I must so don't ask....)..


I did finish the design of the shin guard emblem and the overall thought process of the carapace for the Iron Warriors.....


Prophet40K, I need your input on this part....






Yes, there will be more rivets but for now this is where I am on it. I am thinking for the carapace to do this same emblem again but instead of 1 inch it will be 3 inches tall.....





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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 06:04:18


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oo i like this emblem, did you design it or is it from a picture??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 06:08:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


Naw, its from a pic. I have looked for inspiration for my own but haven't come up with anything good yet.....


thinking about if I can clean it up enough making a mold so later I can do my own Iron Warriors stuff little easier....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 10:36:29


Post by: dsteingass


I think it's great!- The shape of the shin-gard is perfect once it's bent. And yes I agree, some filligree with rivets is definately the way to go for IW.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 11:22:39


Post by: mxwllmdr


Good morning dakka....


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 11:55:15


Post by: logg_frogg


I'm liking the look of those IW symbols


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 12:49:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thankks Logg, but they need work. gonna redo them tonight....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 15:39:23


Post by: Prophet40k


Symbol looks great brother. Here is a banner my brother painted for me , I was thinking of painting it on the leg/shin guard, but if you could work it into the design all the better.



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 16:14:05


Post by: mxwllmdr


It was a first draft so to speak. I am cleaning it up and making finals today....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 20:54:01


Post by: monkeyh


Nice work mx'. Like those Imperial eagles on the previous page, all the pistons on the legs look great.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/09 21:41:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


those iron warrior bitz look very good max!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/12 00:49:12


Post by: LittleSilverGuys


Looking good man, those mock-ups are awesome


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/13 08:33:30


Post by: HAZZER


The titains are looking good man! Keep it up! Btw blogs been updated!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:04:20


Post by: mxwllmdr


Thanks guys....


your continued support is valuable to me right now...


I have recently begun the process of ending a thirty year tabacco habit and haven't been doing well for about two weeks.....

I am back to the shop, however, with this to show, a glimpse of things to come.....





I am hoping to have all those standing from the hips down by Sunday.....


Wish me luck......



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:08:20


Post by: Flying Pooo


Are those intentionally meant to look like AT-ATs.
If so AWESOME! If not still AWESOME!



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:31:01


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Thats one hell of an assembly line!

And dont give in max, you can do it! The benefits are soo worth it.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:43:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


I know, I can't wait to get em going good and get finished. Only four of them are for me so at the shop there is gonna be one hell of an APOC Game....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:49:53


Post by: dsteingass


Non-addicts can say that all they want...but you have no idea what it can do to you. The addiction goes past the first 72 hrs when your blood becomes free of nicotine, even after the first 3 weeks. Resisting 6 months or a year later is the hardest part.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 14:56:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Flying Pooo wrote:Are those intentionally meant to look like AT-ATs.
If so AWESOME! If not still AWESOME!




Not intentionally, but lets face it the real things look that way too. It is just the stage of the build they are in......


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I have been smoking thrity years, Dave, I will never get over the cravings or fits....


Thanks, man....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 15:04:03


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah you will...but it'll be the smell of someone else smoking across the parking lot, or associative mental things that get you. I've quit soo many times, and smell gets me every time.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 15:28:58


Post by: mxwllmdr


I have actually been accustomed to not having the smell in my home for several years now and it is amazing to see how much I smell it when I am not at home even when I am not smoking....


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 17:59:44


Post by: bigfish


Amazaballs, can't wait to see these painted and ready for badasery. Keep up the good work!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 18:16:14


Post by: tme0003


mxwllmdr wrote:Thanks guys....


your continued support is valuable to me right now...


I have recently begun the process of ending a thirty year tabacco habit and haven't been doing well for about two weeks.....

I am back to the shop, however, with this to show, a glimpse of things to come.....





I am hoping to have all those standing from the hips down by Sunday.....


Wish me luck......



I'm hoping for some progress on those two reavers on the back shelf. Seriously though Max you're insane brother, incredible. At this rate you may eventually shame me into building a second warhound. You gonna field an all Titan Apoc army with those bad boys once they're done?


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 18:29:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


Those Reavers will actually see a lot of work next week....





But it starts with the beginning of three more....







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Is that Crazy??????



Yeah, maybe....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 18:31:51


Post by: dsteingass


You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 18:56:25


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHA....


Oh, and thanks, Fish....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 19:12:29


Post by: HAZZER


If here's crazy (a mile a away), your a mad scratch builder!!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 19:17:34


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:Those Reavers will actually see a lot of work next week....





But it starts with the beginning of three more....







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Yeah, maybe....


mxwllmdr wrote:HAHAHAHA....


Oh, and thanks, Fish....







Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 19:27:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


I was crazy once....


The day I accepted the challenge on this mass build....


Now I am only slightly disturbed because I insist on finishing it.....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 19:56:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so....you not only started this ...huge project with a mass of titans to be totally built from the ground... no... you have to do this in a state of cold turkey...mate... we do you keep punishing yourself so hard...? ok...only joking... my mum and dad both used to smoke like chimneys... around 60 cigs a day was nothing special in my youth... so i can only encourage anyone to quite that very destructive habbit... but then i also have seen how often this is verrrry hard to see through... and like dave said... the obstacles never get less... if it was just me deciding the needs and deeds of man then i had banished tobacco a long time ago... but then another guy would forbid my meat ...or sugar... so... i guess we have to cope with tobacco for the sake of freedom...

as for your project...the scratchbuilding one...see it as your chance to get into the annals of scratchbuilding with this monsterous amount of work! you best us all but we look up to you for your endurance!!!


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 22:44:53


Post by: mxwllmdr


Cause I am a Glutton for punishment........

Cause if that is a typo then I am not sure what you mean....


And fairly sure I don't want to know....


LOL....


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/14 23:04:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Cause I am a Glutton for punishment........
...well... whatever floats your boat so they say...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/15 07:18:23


Post by: Flying Pooo


mxwllmdr wrote:
Flying Pooo wrote:Are those intentionally meant to look like AT-ATs.
If so AWESOME! If not still AWESOME!




Not intentionally, but lets face it the real things look that way too. It is just the stage of the build they are in......


Oh I realised I was just looking at that update picture wrong...
Shows how tired I was when I posted that.

There were two sets of legs lined up one behind the other and I thought they were somehow joined, it looked like looked like a Warhound on all fours.

Silly me...
But hey you could do something out like that. *hint* an AT-AT War hound would be really cool IMO.






Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/15 07:45:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


actually a four legged titan would be something new... heck for that matter a defiler made by you max would be something cool too^^


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 03:58:31


Post by: mxwllmdr


Ok, so work continues. Four more sets of legs together ready for riveting and tomorrow the toes and feet will be together and I may stand two or more of them up. the goal is to have 6 standing from the hips down by Sunday but I am shooting for more.....






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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 04:33:52


Post by: Galorn


mxwllmdr wrote:
AND cause someone mentioned it, and at geat risk for more ridicule, my aborted attempt at a defiler. Revealed again despite the "oh what a cute mouse" comments from earlier..................




I think that is more due to the utter derpitude of the "original" GW design more than any efforts of your own. (replicate something that looks... Derpy, and it will look derpy...) If the turret/torso thing was more centrally located (kinda like a true 4 legged dread) it would look far less... Odd...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 04:50:08


Post by: mxwllmdr


Agreed. I think I will redesign it and see what can be done about that.....


Oh, please refrain from using any MLP references,ok? I deal with them all day from my 16 yr old son......


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 08:02:52


Post by: lone dirty dog


It does kind of look like a mouse though ………………

Do you use your own templates Max (I am sure you have been asked this several times before ) I just want a set of titan plans to build the basic shape I have an idea

Just wondered if you could help out


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 09:04:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hey max... love to see your big production line...!

as for the defiler... the thing is... you started that way back then... you have grown...matured...got way better than that... if you started all over it would look way different... i am assured of that!...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 10:39:08


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Awwwww! What a cute mouse!








Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 15:18:40


Post by: mxwllmdr


lone dirty dog wrote:It does kind of look like a mouse though ………………

Do you use your own templates Max (I am sure you have been asked this several times before ) I just want a set of titan plans to build the basic shape I have an idea

Just wondered if you could help out


Yes, i have my own templates. No I won't share them. You want to torture yourself with a build like this, go ahead. But it was hard for me and I see no reason it shouldn' tbe hard for you... LOL


Thanks, Vik. Thats a very good point fresh perspective + newly found skills and techniques= a relook at the defiler later....


Four legged Titan? HMMMMMMMMM........ Gears are turning.....


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Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 15:48:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


for all those that are interested... yahoo groups...BWC archive... they have lots of te4mplates there... or... make up your own ones... much more fullfilling that way too...

and max... i knew you would join my view on that


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 21:27:41


Post by: lone dirty dog


Well that was a kick in the balls after the day I am having it is no wonder, I only want them for the general shape but hey ho no prob I will look around for something similar then.

Thanks for the loan to pick your brain, might need that later then.


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 23:06:06


Post by: Rogue Wolves


is it just me who cant see the pics??


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 23:09:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


nope... i saw them earlier but now they are all gone...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/16 23:10:26


Post by: Rogue Wolves


ok good.. for i second i thought my eyes*(correction.. EYE) are evil


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/17 00:01:56


Post by: dsteingass


I think Max's photobucket crapped out or something...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/17 00:05:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so it seems...


Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/17 01:07:29


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, I had to move some stuff. I will fix it tomorrow. Honestly they weren't anything new.....



Forgeworld Maximus: Learning to Paint, just not well.............. @ 2012/05/17 01:08:58


Post by: dsteingass


AHA!!


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