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Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 16:37:54


Post by: phillv85


The next Special Edition Siege of Terra book appears to be up for order this weekend.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/03/the-siege-of-terra-continues/



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 18:41:37


Post by: BrookM


Regular hardback edition will go up for sale in October, so just a three month wait until then.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 19:28:53


Post by: BrianDavion


 BrookM wrote:
Regular hardback edition will go up for sale in October, so just a three month wait until then.


ugh I hate that they do this. it's bs they do this to sell more CE copies


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 19:33:12


Post by: warboss


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
The part where kharn gets the nails implanted is a very nice touch. Took me a couple of seconds to figure out what was going on.. But I won't ruin it for you.


Yeah, I was wondering about that. At first, I thought I had a printing error in the book with art missing. It was a good book overall but I felt like it backtracked the character development that Kharn *started* with years ago in the earlier BL novels as the voice of reason in the legion. The suddeness of the turn of events in the last act surprised me as well. YMMV.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 20:22:41


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


That world eaters logo on the cover is delightful.. Almost enough to make me want to buy it. But I don't have the patience to sit in a refresh queue. Maybe I'll boot up the site at 10am on sat and see how the dice land.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 21:12:03


Post by: phillv85


I think i’ll just wait. I’m planning on getting a full set of regular hardbacks.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/03 22:42:26


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Yeah but that world eaters badge though...


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 10:30:55


Post by: phillv85


Must admit, it is nice....


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 11:05:17


Post by: Tavis75


Will definitely be sat hitting refresh on Saturday morning, got the first special edition and obviously would like the full set, so would be very annoying to miss out on one (I managed to miss two out of the twelve Primarch novels released so far, which is annoying). I think Saturday mornings every now and again are going to get more tense as time goes on!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 11:30:06


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


I don't think I'll let it bother me that much. I don't like queuing in real life so I won't be queuing online either.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 11:48:45


Post by: CragHack


I will be getting like 5 of those, I’ve seen them sell quite well on ebay


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 14:17:11


Post by: Alpharius


Problem, not solution!

I’ll probably pick these all up as regular hardbacks - been waiting for the end of this series for a long time now, don’t want to wait even longer for the paperbacks!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/04 15:26:28


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


 CragHack wrote:
I will be getting like 5 of those, I’ve seen them sell quite well on ebay


Think dubs are limiting them to one per customer so you'd better set up some extra bank accounts or get family to purchase too.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 08:03:50


Post by: MoD_Legion


Hmm its 10AM in my timezone, pre-order not up yet. I guess they did not take summer time into account.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 08:57:54


Post by: The Phazer


It's up five minutes early.

Sorry not sorry but I only posted that after mine was ordered.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 09:00:17


Post by: MoD_Legion


Hmm, had to click a link from the actual black library site to find it. Refreshing the GW site proper didnt show it for me.

[edit] the black library section of the GW site now has it listed as well [/edit]


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 10:54:47


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


They're already on ebay for 200 smackers.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 11:03:17


Post by: BrookM


And sold out on the GW site.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 11:41:57


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Standard. I don't understand why they make then limited edition. They'd make much more profit having them available for a longer period. But gw marketing seems obsessed with limited edition, and we seem to lap it up, for some reason.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 12:19:20


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Standard. I don't understand why they make then limited edition. They'd make much more profit having them available for a longer period. But gw marketing seems obsessed with limited edition, and we seem to lap it up, for some reason.


I suppose one factor that limits numbers is that they’re all signed by the author. Personally speaking, that doesn’t make them any more appealing to me. I came very close to buying the Solar War limited edition but decided against it after realising that there could be a chance that I miss one of the books during its 8 (?) novel run. Part of me would rather own none of them than only 7 of them. It’s the same reason why I’ll never buy any more Horus Heresy black books, despite already owning books 1 to 3. It’s no longer possible to buy books 4,5 and 6 in their original format, so I’m not interested in books 7 or 8 either.

Maybe I’m just a bit weird?

If the Siege of Terra was available in the limited format, unsigned and still at that premium price of £50 each, and in far greater numbers, I’d have had no issues in buying them to look good on a shelf ... and I’d have still bought the audiobooks, as I intend to once the series is complete, as I’m dyslexic and struggle to read anything more than one page long


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 12:35:50


Post by: Overread


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Standard. I don't understand why they make then limited edition. They'd make much more profit having them available for a longer period. But gw marketing seems obsessed with limited edition, and we seem to lap it up, for some reason.


It's even worse for art and lore books like the Eldar ones done a year or so back and the limited reprint of Libre Chaotica. Those are not just short runs but true limited editions every time. At least with a story whilst the limited edition is limited you can still get the whole book almost whenever you want once it release as few months/weeks later.

I really hate that the art books in particular are such short runs; there's a lot I'd get out of curiosity but I don't often have the money in the week it goes on sale. Heck I nearly missed the Libre!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 12:46:42


Post by: Tim the Biovore


 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
...I came very close to buying the Solar War limited edition but decided against it after realising that there could be a chance that I miss one of the books during its 8 (?) novel run. Part of me would rather own none of them than only 7 of them...

Maybe I’m just a bit weird?


I tend to feel the same way. I've managed to buy both limited editions so far, but if I miss any of the next six, I'll sell off the ones I already have and buy the eventual paperbacks instead. Can't stand mismatched sets.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 17:04:34


Post by: BrookM


They're late, but there's a preorder article up for the book..

Also, a low-rez map:



I'll be keeping an eye out on the official website for a nice and big one like they did with the Solar War.

The coming soon page has also been updated:











Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 18:40:49


Post by: Knockagh


Rachael Harrison the way out looks great. She did a great job with the commissar book.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 18:55:17


Post by: BrookM


The audio drama was originally a three-part series released during the week of Horror or whatever it was called. It'll be interesting to see how this one turns out. Have high hopes, aside from a shoddy Necromunda short story she has yet to disappoint in my opinion and that she keeps on receiving kudos by other authors for helping out / her writing style is also nice.

Getting an Alien vibe from the cover art, though we already had an Alien themed story in the first Horror book.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 22:01:55


Post by: warboss


 BrookM wrote:
They're late, but there's a preorder article up for the book..

Also, a low-rez map:

Spoiler:


I'll be keeping an eye out on the official website for a nice and big one like they did with the Solar War.



Am I remembering it wrong? I thought the Imperial Palace was more like a Dredd style megacity. That seems kind of small unless that it the entire Himalayan mountain range.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/06 22:26:15


Post by: BrianDavion


 warboss wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
They're late, but there's a preorder article up for the book..

Also, a low-rez map:

Spoiler:


I'll be keeping an eye out on the official website for a nice and big one like they did with the Solar War.



Am I remembering it wrong? I thought the Imperial Palace was more like a Dredd style megacity. That seems kind of small unless that it the entire Himalayan mountain range.


yeah that's the entire Himalayan mountain range.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/08 07:09:38


Post by: Looky Likey


Managed to get SoT book 2, but as I was unavailable on Saturday (on a plane) I had to ask a favour of a friend to get it for me. I can see this being a long hard slog to get the full set. The Primarch books do not sell out anywhere near as quickly, although Horus might end up being different.

I wish they had come up with a better system from the start for the sale of the limited editions for SoT as there is nothing I dislike more about the entire hobby than the touts who sell on the books and event tickets for massive profit.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/08 08:16:45


Post by: BrookM


Only thing we can do, seeing as punching people in the throat over TCP/IP is still nothing but a concept that people refuse to look into, is to contact GW about it.

IIRC, this one was not limited to one per customer, at least the store entry made no mention of this as far as I could see. So sadly, some fething scumbag pieces of gak have once again robbed others of something for a normal price. Or at least, not what they are asking for it now, having just checked ebay.. donkey-caves.

In slightly better news, coming up for preorder next weekend:




Automatically Appended Next Post:
This pleases me: https://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-darkling-hours-2019.html

A powerful psyker lurks in Termina – and it's up to Commissar Severina Raine and her Antari Rifles to root out the witch and secure the city.

The war against the Sighted has come to the city of Termina, and Commissar Severina Raine and her Antari Rifles are assigned a most important mission. Among the enemy assets is a powerful psyker, and until it is defeated, no attempt to retake the howling city for the Imperium can hope to succeed. Can Raine and her warriors succeed against the odds, even as the omens point to a grisly fate?

Written by Rachel Harrison
Quite chuffed with this release, it's the only short story I hadn't read yet in this series and was an event exclusive before, so the completionist in me is going.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/11 21:23:39


Post by: Knockagh


Highly recommend The Red Feast for anyone out there looking a more traditional fantasy story. It’s billed as book one of The Khul and I hope there are many more. Great to see fiction like this still being written now we are in the age of Sigmar.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/11 21:28:32


Post by: ImAGeek


 BrookM wrote:
Only thing we can do, seeing as punching people in the throat over TCP/IP is still nothing but a concept that people refuse to look into, is to contact GW about it.

IIRC, this one was not limited to one per customer, at least the store entry made no mention of this as far as I could see. So sadly, some fething scumbag pieces of gak have once again robbed others of something for a normal price. Or at least, not what they are asking for it now, having just checked ebay.. donkey-caves.


It was limited to 1 per customer. It didn’t mention it anywhere but you could only pick 1 in the quantity box.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/12 05:26:02


Post by: BrookM


I stand corrected then.

Just found out that the Ravenor omnibus is also going up for preorder tomorrow. Curious to see if that one has anything new added to it not already found in the previous omnibus or the Magos.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/12 08:31:16


Post by: Looky Likey


You could purchase multiple copies as separate transactions as they have no way of stopping that currently. Obviously using one account that would have been hard with how quickly the book sold out but multiple accounts all posting to the same address, using the same credit card open via different browsers is perfectly possible.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/13 10:49:47


Post by: reds8n


latest set of the POD hardback HH books is up

https://www.blacklibrary.com/prod-home/home-pod

order all 5 and save £5.

... well .. all helps eh ?



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/17 13:44:59


Post by: BrookM


Site has been updated for book #2 and has a new high-detail map available as well: https://siegeofterra.com/



(small version)


There's also four new dramatis personae busts at the bottom of the page with short bios.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/17 22:04:27


Post by: byrd9999


 BrookM wrote:
I stand corrected then.

Just found out that the Ravenor omnibus is also going up for preorder tomorrow. Curious to see if that one has anything new added to it not already found in the previous omnibus or the Magos.


3 novels and 2 shorts (both in Magos) by the looks of it:

https://www.blacklibrary.com/series/ravenor/ravenor-the-omnibus-ebook-2019.html


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/20 12:50:29


Post by: reds8n


https://twitter.com/rharrisonwrites/status/1152497097826025473



Absolutely MIND-BLOWN this morning to see that the 2019 Scribe Awards were announced at #SDCC2019, and that 'The Darkling Hours' won in the short story category! WHAAAAT?! #blacklibrary #warhammer40k


Fair play

Thoroughly enjoying Mr Reynold's Apocalypse novel.


Not bolter porn at all, very well thought out and structured.

First book I've seen that truly does anything with the old marine/primaris situation , the Word Bearers make sense...

... and the hidden truth.. oh boy !

Believe he's taking a break from GW stuff for a while, hope he's back soon.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/20 13:30:59


Post by: nels1031


 reds8n wrote:

Believe he's taking a break from GW stuff for a while, hope he's back soon.


Yeah, he said as much on the TGA boards.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/26 00:31:47


Post by: BrookM


While the second Siege novel still needs to be properly released, a synopsis of the third book, the First Wall, is already available:

The outer defences have fallen, and the walls of the Imperial Palace await the Traitors. Perturabo is determined to tear down the mighty edifices his brother, and bitter rival, Rogal Dorn has built – but first, he must take the Lion’s Gate Spaceport so that his heaviest weapons can land… What will happen when the irresistible force of the Iron Warriors meets the immovable object of the Imperial Fists?


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 13:45:32


Post by: BrookM


Novella preview: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/31/coming-soon-novella-series-2/

Five 40k stories, three AoS, one Necromunda and one Horror story.

Personally looking forward to Wreck and Ruin, as the previous Adepta Sororitas stories by this author were quite good.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 13:50:57


Post by: phillv85


Looks like Amazon have put up a load of pre-orders with dates. According to them we’ll be getting the SoT book 3, The First Wall in March. There’s also a book about Cawl and Inferno 4 and 5 plus others.

Not sure what BL have announced of the above, but was good to see them all up on Amazon.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 14:30:50


Post by: Overread


I really like the Novella format for Black Library! There's enough room to give each story some depth and to build them into good adventures, whilst not so much room that the heavy action starts to cause its own problems. I think they are really ideal, esp for fleshing out the world and getting a look at the peoples of the settings in more depth.


Short stories often feel like teasers at times and full novels can sometimes backfire when they get hooked on a specific single theme for too long.

Very much looking forward to the new Novella!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 14:42:19


Post by: BrookM


Still need to read some of the first batch, was a bit hit and miss for me.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 15:32:04


Post by: Looky Likey


phillv85 wrote:
Looks like Amazon have put up a load of pre-orders with dates. According to them we’ll be getting the SoT book 3, The First Wall in March. Not sure what BL have announced of the above, but was good to see them all up on Amazon.
That puts the Limited Edition out in December if we stick to the 3 month exclusive window, seems slower than the last one? I got my first SoT on 23rd March, SoT 2 was 13th July?


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 15:51:56


Post by: BrookM


It may depend on who is writing it. If it's AD-B.. though I think they're letting him do one of the last ones, just to be on the safe side.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 16:07:45


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 Overread wrote:
I really like the Novella format for Black Library![...]
Also a practical price to get over the free shipping threshold. Half of the reason I got a previous one, but it turned out to be a good read too!
Don't quite see how they're a logical "collectible" thing as I certainly only get those whose subjects interest me, not the other 8 "just to have the complete set".


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 17:14:28


Post by: phillv85


 BrookM wrote:
It may depend on who is writing it. If it's AD-B.. though I think they're letting him do one of the last ones, just to be on the safe side.


Gav Thorpe according to Amazon. Dates may not accurate as RRP is down as £24.03

https://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Wall-Horus-Heresy-Siege/dp/1789990408/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=The+first+wall&qid=1564593200&s=gateway&sr=8-3


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 17:31:10


Post by: Overread


 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 Overread wrote:
I really like the Novella format for Black Library![...]
Also a practical price to get over the free shipping threshold. Half of the reason I got a previous one, but it turned out to be a good read too!
Don't quite see how they're a logical "collectible" thing as I certainly only get those whose subjects interest me, not the other 8 "just to have the complete set".


I can see the collectable angle with them and its a smart subtle move by GW to casually encourage people to buy the whole set, esp if they buy the physical ones. It's a sly way to get them to read about an army or game they might not collect and play and thus introduces them to the lore. One thing GW has realised is that decent lore and stories will sell a faction to players. Heck just look how many get into Warhammer games and remain fans even long after "I've played better games". The lore, characters, world, setting, artwork - all the fluff works even if a person only engages at a casual level.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 18:02:41


Post by: Mr Morden


Excellent - I want all of those - especially

8 – Thieves’ Paradise by Nick Horth
Nick: “Starring the aelven tomb raider Shev Arclis from my Callis and Toll series, Thieves’ Paradise is a heist caper set in the Latchkey Isle, an underworld of Shyish populated by the spirits of cutpurses and burglars. Expect devious traps, slavering monsters and plenty of derring-do.”

Also very pleased they sorted her ears out!



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 18:07:09


Post by: Coolyo294


The only one from the last novella series I read was the blatant fury ripoff and it was so bad I tossed it into a corner when I was finished with it. Hopefully these ones will be better, especially the sisters story.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/07/31 18:24:57


Post by: BrookM


It's a bit unfair to judge the entire series on a single novel.

Though I do agree that Steel Daemon was a close copy of Fury.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/01 09:46:25


Post by: Looky Likey


phillv85 wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
It may depend on who is writing it. If it's AD-B.. though I think they're letting him do one of the last ones, just to be on the safe side.


Gav Thorpe according to Amazon. Dates may not accurate as RRP is down as £24.03

https://www.amazon.co.uk/First-Wall-Horus-Heresy-Siege/dp/1789990408/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=The+first+wall&qid=1564593200&s=gateway&sr=8-3
Erg, I wondered how long before the series quality took a dip.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/01 14:10:06


Post by: Alpharius


Ha!

Right out of the gate, really!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/02 09:24:15


Post by: Looky Likey


From what I remember at the various seminars I've been to on SoT, we have:
SoT 1 - French
SoT 2 - Haley
SoT 3 - Thorpe
SoT 7 - ADB
SoT 8 - Abnett - he was given the last one as he wrote the first HH book

We don't yet know which book Wraight is doing (I'm guessing book 4) but I'm looking forward to it. As it is confirmed we have only these six authors this means two authors are doing 2 books each, but I'm pretty certain it isn't Abnett or ADB. Praying Gav doesn't get two or even worse three books.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/02 15:29:29


Post by: phillv85


What’s the deal with the Celestine hardback being £12.99 and not £18? I mean i’m glad of the price drop, but does that mean it’ll be the size of the Primarch series hardbacks rather than the regular hardbacks? Looks like there’s a few 40k £12.99 books coming according to Amazon as well. Have they changed their standard again?


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/03 06:46:20


Post by: ImAGeek


phillv85 wrote:
What’s the deal with the Celestine hardback being £12.99 and not £18? I mean i’m glad of the price drop, but does that mean it’ll be the size of the Primarch series hardbacks rather than the regular hardbacks? Looks like there’s a few 40k £12.99 books coming according to Amazon as well. Have they changed their standard again?


Celestine is short from what I’ve heard, so yeah it’ll be the size of the Primarch novellas probably.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/03 10:25:26


Post by: reds8n


https://www.warhammer-community.com/blacklibrarycomingsoon/

November titles added.


Really dislike this current format/version of the site.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/03 10:43:21


Post by: Overread


 reds8n wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/blacklibrarycomingsoon/

November titles added.


Really dislike this current format/version of the site.



It's nuts - the coming soon page is something I never notice now because its not on the BL site and its buried somewhere on the cluttered community site.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/03 11:34:57


Post by: Yodhrin


I'm glad to see they're going to do the additional Gotrek & Felix omnibus edition we never got last time around, but it would be nice to start seeing some of the less "famous" WHF stories reprinted, and it would be even nicer still if they finally gave some indication if they're ever going to use the Warhammer Chronicles branding for anything except reprints.

The rate these are continuing to come out certainly indicates there's still a market for proper-WHF fiction, it seems daft to ignore that now that AoS is settled in as its own thing and anyone who was going to be converted over to the newshiny already has been.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 06:54:01


Post by: Knockagh


 Mr Morden wrote:
Excellent - I want all of those - especially

8 – Thieves’ Paradise by Nick Horth
Nick: “Starring the aelven tomb raider Shev Arclis from my Callis and Toll series, Thieves’ Paradise is a heist caper set in the Latchkey Isle, an underworld of Shyish populated by the spirits of cutpurses and burglars. Expect devious traps, slavering monsters and plenty of derring-do.”
I
Also very pleased they sorted her ears out!



If I only buy one this will be it. Glad to see Nick back at the Callis and Toll series. It’s been the highlight of AoS fiction for me. Great series and I can’t wait for the next full novel.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 09:23:14


Post by: reds8n


..they've been a highlight of the AOS stories for me too, although I felt the first book about them was stronger.

The Burden of Loyalty was released yesterday in the MMPB format.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 09:29:17


Post by: Overread


 Yodhrin wrote:
I'm glad to see they're going to do the additional Gotrek & Felix omnibus edition we never got last time around, but it would be nice to start seeing some of the less "famous" WHF stories reprinted, and it would be even nicer still if they finally gave some indication if they're ever going to use the Warhammer Chronicles branding for anything except reprints.

The rate these are continuing to come out certainly indicates there's still a market for proper-WHF fiction, it seems daft to ignore that now that AoS is settled in as its own thing and anyone who was going to be converted over to the newshiny already has been.


My impression is that currently they are going through the entire "series" sets for Warhammer in the Chronicles releases. Most of these are at least 3 books being put into one and a good few also include a short story or two here and there. I figure once they've done the last of the chronicles books they might well turn to collections of short stories and some of the one-off stories that they've also published. It would be a good way to get attention on them and also cut down the library that they have to stock both physically and digitally. Already the Chronicles slices a segment of their inventory by over 2/3rds in size.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 09:51:39


Post by: Yodhrin


 Overread wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
I'm glad to see they're going to do the additional Gotrek & Felix omnibus edition we never got last time around, but it would be nice to start seeing some of the less "famous" WHF stories reprinted, and it would be even nicer still if they finally gave some indication if they're ever going to use the Warhammer Chronicles branding for anything except reprints.

The rate these are continuing to come out certainly indicates there's still a market for proper-WHF fiction, it seems daft to ignore that now that AoS is settled in as its own thing and anyone who was going to be converted over to the newshiny already has been.


My impression is that currently they are going through the entire "series" sets for Warhammer in the Chronicles releases. Most of these are at least 3 books being put into one and a good few also include a short story or two here and there. I figure once they've done the last of the chronicles books they might well turn to collections of short stories and some of the one-off stories that they've also published. It would be a good way to get attention on them and also cut down the library that they have to stock both physically and digitally. Already the Chronicles slices a segment of their inventory by over 2/3rds in size.


Aye I get their thinking, and I've bought most of the Chronicles books(either because of the short stories you mention, or because my previous versions have been almost read to pieces in some cases), I was just hoping they'd be a little more ambitious with it or at least would indicate definitively that they never do intend to be more ambitious.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 10:05:52


Post by: Overread


https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/762803.page#top

If you check the 3rd post in the dropdowns then there's around 10 individual series that are still to be published as collected editions (and at least 2 of them are already on the upcoming list - Bountyhunter and Thanquol)

Gotrek and Felix already has a 4th omnibus on the coming soon and I'm sure they'll complete it with an end-times omibus edition as well.

Darkblade I'm sure will likely get one or two releases as well, though I believe those are also comics for some so might be a bit different.

Not forgetting that they are also doing limited runs of the old Inferno books so that might well also cover a lot of the short stories that are up for sale. Though its not a long term solution.



Suffice it to say that even if they only collect up the major series its still going to cut a lot of the inventory down to a very suitable chunk. I'd even welcome them removing the individual books and ebooks from sale eventually so that they only hold the collected versions - esp for short stories. It would make their store page a LOT more friendly to newbies.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 10:17:55


Post by: Yodhrin


By "ambitious" I more meant "entirely new WHF stories using the Chronicles branding".


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 10:26:31


Post by: Overread


 Yodhrin wrote:
By "ambitious" I more meant "entirely new WHF stories using the Chronicles branding".


At present I think they might do some more Horror stories, but otherwise I don't know if they'll keep it around like that. Some of the more popular characters might, but I think GW's focus will be on producing more AoS based stories.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/04 11:11:32


Post by: BrookM


Finally getting around to reading the Hollow Mountain. So far, excellent world building as with the first one.

Also..

Spoiler:
It's pretty neat to see one of the characters undercover at the Chartists and seeing an "up to date" galactic map showing an anomaly happening around the Eye of Terror that's spreading outwards.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/05 11:00:51


Post by: BrookM


Necromunda short story: https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/A-Common-Ground-2019.html

n the underhive of Necromunda, people fight for many reasons… Goliath ganger Jaxx may be a stimm-fuelled pit fighter, but there are all manner of reasons why he steps into the ring. When a mysterious woman offers Jaxx a chance at glory, as well as revenge against his conniving fight master, he must decide whether it's worth the price… his life.

Written by Mike Brooks

This story is also available in Inferno! Volume 1


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 17:50:51


Post by: BrookM


https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/07/two-newish-paperbacks-and-you-choose-them/

As with the last two years, reader's choice, one 40k, one fantasy novel. Not a great selection this time around, YMMV as always, but also nice to see them gauge which unabridged audio book they should do next.

Honourbound obviously, or else..



As for the books, Fifteen Hours and Malekith got my votes.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 18:41:59


Post by: Kanluwen


Uh no, "Cadia Stands" is the only correct answer.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 18:44:09


Post by: Mr Morden


 BrookM wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/07/two-newish-paperbacks-and-you-choose-them/

As with the last two years, reader's choice, one 40k, one fantasy novel. Not a great selection this time around, YMMV as always, but also nice to see them gauge which unabridged audio book they should do next.

Honourbound obviously, or else..



As for the books, Fifteen Hours and Malekith got my votes.


I can't find the voting page etc?

Caves of Ice for Audio fun.....


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 18:44:24


Post by: Overread


Aren't they already doing an anniversary edition of Troll Slayer? Of all those books that is one that I'd figure didn't need reprinting


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 18:49:26


Post by: BrookM


 Mr Morden wrote:

I can't find the voting page etc?

Caves of Ice for Audio fun.....
Scroll down to the bottom of the page.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 18:55:48


Post by: Mr Morden


 BrookM wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:

I can't find the voting page etc?

Caves of Ice for Audio fun.....
Scroll down to the bottom of the page.


Still can;t find it??


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 19:30:34


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


It's there in a scrolling box (it's via survey monkey, could that be blocked on your device?)


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 19:42:50


Post by: Mr Morden


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's there in a scrolling box (it's via survey monkey, could that be blocked on your device?)


Not had that issue before - is the link on the warhammer commnity page or the email? thanks


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/07 20:00:04


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 Mr Morden wrote:
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's there in a scrolling box (it's via survey monkey, could that be blocked on your device?)


Not had that issue before - is the link on the warhammer commnity page or the email? thanks
On the Warhammer Community page, right above the paragraph starting "Thanks for your votes!".
Shows up fine for me despite various adblockers and whatnot, though I can imagine that to be the issue (it's a SurveyMonkey plug-in).


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 07:11:33


Post by: reds8n




...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/21/siege-of-terra-beyond-the-novelsgw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-3/


The Siege of Terra is getting bigger! Starting in early 2020, a series of novellas will tell additional tales from the final war of the Horus Heresy. They will expand the scope of the series and reveal all manner of secrets about the Siege. The first of these novellas is called Sons of the Selenar – a tale of the Shattered Legions and their role in the war in the Solar System written by Graham McNeill.

The eight novels in the core Siege of Terra series follow the story of the pivotal conflicts, from the first clashes in the outer reaches of the Solar System, as seen in John French’s The Solar War, all the way to that iconic final duel between Emperor and Warmaster… though you’ll have to wait a while for that one (and no, we’re still not telling you who’ll be writing it).

The Siege isn’t just one huge battle though. It involves elements of more than a dozen Space Marine Legions – and nearly as many primarchs. Alongside them are billions of human soldiers, hordes of daemons, Titan Legions, Knight households and more. In all of this turmoil, there are countless stories of heroism, sacrifice and adventure to be told within the Siege of Terra setting.

Graham McNeill has been a key member of the Horus Heresy team from the very beginning, writing the second novel in the series, False Gods, as well as many other milestones along the way, including Fulgrim, A Thousand Sons and The Crimson King. Many fans of the series were sad to see that he wasn’t writing one of the Siege of Terra novels, so a novella by him is fantastic news!

Sons of the Selenar follows Graham’s Shattered Legions heroes, as seen in his Horus Heresy stories ‘Kryptos’, Angel Exterminatus and The Seventh Serpent, bringing them into the perils of the Siege on a hazardous mission that could change the fate of the galaxy. Check out the blurb for the story, fresh from Black Library:



Sons of the Selenar will be available first in a limited edition format in early 2020, with a wider release later in the year. Look out for more information about it, as well as other Siege of Terra stories, over the coming months – and at the Black Library Weekender in November.

This massive two-day event will be held in Nottingham’s Belfry Hotel on Saturday the 9th and Sunday the 10th of November. You’ll be able to meet loads of authors, artists and voice actors, attend seminars about all aspects of Black Library’s stories, grab amazing pre-release books and much more. Order your tickets from Eventbrite now. In the meantime, check out the Siege of Terra website for your introduction to the series, and pick up The Solar War now.




.. be shocjkd if this is the only tie-i release.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 07:17:19


Post by: BrianDavion


this doesn't suprise me at all, I expect we'll see tie in audio drama's tie in short stories, etc


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 08:56:42


Post by: farmersboy


Will it be clad in the finest leatherette, with the flimsiest fake gold leaf inserts that wear off when you look at them too sternly?


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 13:05:13


Post by: queen_annes_revenge


Yeah that's why I didn't buy the special editions. £80 for fake leather? No thanks.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 13:10:50


Post by: JSG


 queen_annes_revenge wrote:
Yeah that's why I didn't buy the special editions. £80 for fake leather? No thanks.


The Siege books are £50.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 14:27:47


Post by: H.B.M.C.


"You thought we would just release 8 books and be done with it? Did the Horus Heresy series teach you people nothing? Be prepared for years and years of endless tie-in nonsense whilst you wait endlessly for us to just realise a fething paperback of the book we've released in 'special edition' 3 times now!"


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 14:29:23


Post by: Mr Morden




Agree - some great images


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/22 14:33:15


Post by: Azreal13


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"You thought we would just release 8 books and be done with it? Did the Horus Heresy series teach you people nothing? Be prepared for years and years of endless tie-in nonsense whilst you wait endlessly for us to just realise a fething paperback of the book we've released in 'special edition' 3 times now!"


Siege Of Terra: The Paddening.

I mean, at least HH had actually started and done quite well before they started that nonsense, this had barely got it's trainers into the starting blocks!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 08:05:37


Post by: Looky Likey


It doesn't sound like these are part of the main story line, so completely skippable, which is different from when the HH went completely wild with padding.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 08:53:18


Post by: Ratius


Yeah, reads like padding already =/


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 08:59:59


Post by: BrookM


The original eight planned books for the final arc already feel like it'll involve a lot of padding to fill eight books about the final stage of the Heresy.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 09:02:48


Post by: The Phazer


Yeah, I can't say I'm in love with the idea of special edition novellas, even as someone who has been buying the SOT special editions. The point was to have a complete set looking all book like on the shelf really. Novellas really mess with that.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 09:32:51


Post by: Yodhrin


 The Phazer wrote:
Yeah, I can't say I'm in love with the idea of special edition novellas, even as someone who has been buying the SOT special editions. The point was to have a complete set looking all book like on the shelf really. Novellas really mess with that.


Well, to be fair, it's not like BL have a great track record of keeping their special editions shelf-matching in terms of size, colour, fonts & text positioning etc even within a series and ostensibly in the same format


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 10:25:33


Post by: BrianDavion


I'd rather they just do the 8 books without a bajillion tie ins and then follow the Siege of Terra up with "The Scouring" which is a pretty good open ended area with a lot of room for stories given the scouring was a century or two in length.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 10:39:12


Post by: Looky Likey


 BrookM wrote:
The original eight planned books for the final arc already feel like it'll involve a lot of padding to fill eight books about the final stage of the Heresy.
The problem has always been that everybody wants their favourite legion covered in detail, even when that legion drops out of the main story arc. If you covered the HH from just Horus's perspective it could have been over in a fraction of the books. Instead we have books covering every legions perspective of the Heresy, even when they are far removed from the main arc. I think a proper numbering system would have helped enormously for people to avoid books outside the arcs they interested in.

The first two books have setup the third nicely, the last two will be awesome, books four to six I'm really not sure what'll be in them.



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 11:31:29


Post by: BrianDavion


yeah, I'm hoping the siege of terra will avoid that, as awesome as I think say.. the Ultramarines are, they don't need to apper in this beyond maybe appering as the cavalry in the last book. (and it would be kinda neat to see in the last chapter the retreating traitors get chased out of the system by a strong ultramarines fleet)


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 20:49:47


Post by: deano2099


Will likely now be a ninth book that’s an anthology of all of these. Also still expecting to get Horus Heresy book 55 as there are still shorts and novellas pre-siege that aren’t collected yet.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/23 21:14:37


Post by: farmersboy


I am so far behind (Book 48, The Burden of Loyalty) that I don't think it will make any difference to me, as long as these Siege books are also published in MMPB format.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/24 11:43:06


Post by: reds8n


Ditto.



via https://twitter.com/blacklibrarium

Spoiler:








very pleased to also see :

New #WarhammerHorror #WH40K book #BlackLibrary

- The Oubliette by @Jcstearnswriter

His stuff has been top notch so far IMO, really looking forwards to this.


Really impressed by his Dark Eldar/Drukhari story in Inferno #2





Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/25 13:42:55


Post by: BrookM


Either the previews had wrong dates, or they moved some (re)releases forward a bit:

Originally slated for the 14th of September..



Already removed from the preview page, but only recently released as hardback..



Also, if you haven't already, preorders are up for the softback version of HONOURBOUND, a book so good it sold out on the weekend it went on sale way back in February:



Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 08:20:51


Post by: Looky Likey


BrianDavion wrote:
yeah, I'm hoping the siege of terra will avoid that, as awesome as I think say.. the Ultramarines are, they don't need to apper in this beyond maybe appering as the cavalry in the last book. (and it would be kinda neat to see in the last chapter the retreating traitors get chased out of the system by a strong ultramarines fleet)
I agree about the UM, they do not need a main story arc until the prologue after the final battle between Horus and the Big E. I would expect them to get one of the new novelettes as its hinted at quite strongly in book 2 they are having an epic time limited campaign against the traps and defences left by the Traitors on their route to Terra.

Will have to pick up Rites of Passage, its one I've been looking forward to. I really enjoyed Honorbound, its a great book and I hope they manage to give it legs for a proper lengthy series.

Currently reading Requiem Infernal, really impressed so far, but think its a missed opportunity to have this not branded with the Warhammer Horror logo as it captures the creeping terror of Chaos really well.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 11:17:49


Post by: BrookM


Honourbound ended with enough material to keep things going for a potential sequel, though as is the prequel short stories and the novel itself present a nicely done self-contained arc for several of the characters involved.

Due to the heatwave I am wrapping up books I never finished or haven't found the time for in the first place. Blackstone Fortress was eh. The Hollow Mountain was damned good, can't wait for the next one to come. Right now on Legacy of Dorn.

However.. On Wings of Blood and Double Eagle going up for preorder this weekend, much excite!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 13:37:31


Post by: Bobthehero


Anybody having issues confirming payment on BL site? I am trying to get Honorbound and all the relevant shorts, seems there's a lot more of them than I remembered, which is cool


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 15:24:15


Post by: BrookM


It's high time BL also embraces Paypal payments already.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 15:40:21


Post by: TwilightSparkles


Problem with PayPal is the alleged fraud rate is higher than traditional cards and PayPal charges more than Visa.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/27 15:46:58


Post by: Bobthehero


Seems to be a Firefox issue, used another browser and it reminded me I already bought the first two short stories and actually proceeded with the payment now.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/28 16:31:40


Post by: Mr Morden




Wasn;t Castle of Blood in an anthology already? Pretty sure I have read it,


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/28 16:45:39


Post by: BrookM


He did write a short story about a not-Japanese / insert Fantasy variant of that place here family going to a castle concerning a curse haunting their bloodline.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/08/31 14:28:32


Post by: BrookM


Contents of On Wings of Blood are now known:

The Emperor's Grace by Nicholas Alexander
Ancient History by Andy Chambers
Sturmhex by E J Davies
Wraithflight by Guy Haley
Doom Flight by Cavan Scott
In Service Eternal by Matt Smith
Wraithbound by J C Stearns
Wings of Bone by James Swallow
Acceptable Losses by Gav Thorpe
Raptor Down by Gav Thorpe
Medusan Wings by Matt Westbrook
Stormseeker by Alec Worley


Some stuff is more recent, some are older and from the days of the first version of Inferno! Medusan Wings is a novella that was first released way back when Stormcloud Attack was a thing.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/05 17:53:30


Post by: alphaecho




As a heads up, Limited Time Deals on Amazon UK for Kindle.

Titandeath, Heralds Of The Siege, Ciaphas Cain:Choose Your Enemies and Solar War are all £1.99 each.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/05 19:40:29


Post by: Reavsie


alphaecho wrote:


As a heads up, Limited Time Deals on Amazon UK for Kindle.

Titandeath, Heralds Of The Siege, Ciaphas Cain:Choose Your Enemies and Solar War are all £1.99 each.


Awesome, thanks!

I already had Titandeath and Heralds, but just ordered the others - cheers.

Haven't read any Ciaphas Cain books yet but have had my eye on them for a while. I know it will mean not reading them in the proper order but should let me know if I want to then jump in from the beginning.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/05 19:52:43


Post by: alphaecho


 Reavsie wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


As a heads up, Limited Time Deals on Amazon UK for Kindle.

Titandeath, Heralds Of The Siege, Ciaphas Cain:Choose Your Enemies and Solar War are all £1.99 each.


Awesome, thanks!

I already had Titandeath and Heralds, but just ordered the others - cheers.

Haven't read any Ciaphas Cain books yet but have had my eye on them for a while. I know it will mean not reading them in the proper order but should let me know if I want to then jump in from the beginning.



I had Solar War and hadn't bothered with the other HH books, not knowing if they would really bring much to the tale end of that particular series. I do have them now though.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/06 23:59:23


Post by: Overread


From the New Zealand site:

Realmslayer The Complete Script Hardback
"This book contains the complete four-part script of Realmslayer, the audio drama recounting the much anticipated return of Gotrek Gurnisson and voiced by the world-famous Brian Blessed. It also includes a brand-new introduction by David Guymer, behind-the-scenes photographs, thirty-two pages of art, and a never-before-seen annotated script with insights from its author, editor and audio producer."


Now THAT is how you make a special edition of something!


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/07 17:00:13


Post by: Danny76


 Reavsie wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


As a heads up, Limited Time Deals on Amazon UK for Kindle.

Titandeath, Heralds Of The Siege, Ciaphas Cain:Choose Your Enemies and Solar War are all £1.99 each.


Awesome, thanks!

I already had Titandeath and Heralds, but just ordered the others - cheers.

Haven't read any Ciaphas Cain books yet but have had my eye on them for a while. I know it will mean not reading them in the proper order but should let me know if I want to then jump in from the beginning.


Spoiler: you do want to read them from the beginning.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/07 23:45:48


Post by: Alpharius


Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 02:52:37


Post by: Yodhrin


 Alpharius wrote:
Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


The WHF ones? Can only speak for myself, but they're some of my favourites. Mostly solid adventuring fare, with a few real gems, and the only proper stinkers in the series IMO are one of the "off sequence" novels(the kinda-sorta-in Mordheim's total ruin one) and the "conclusion" duology under the End Times banner - and some folk will dismiss that conclusion given my well known opinions on the End Times and what came after, but seriously, if you find yourself enjoying the series give them a complete miss because they piss gleefully all over the characters as depicted up to to that point, they're relentlessly dour and po-faced, and make some really unnecessary choices about Gotrek's backstory and how it relates to another character. Unless you're extremely invested in the notion of following the "official" story through to AoS, it's better to leave the hows and whys of how the link up to your imagination.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 06:21:44


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


The William King books are fantastic. I re-read Skavenslayer through Beastslayer every couple of years and never get tired of them.

The Nathan Long Gotrek books aren't necessarily bad, but they also don't feel like Gotrek and Felix books to me, either. I didn't read the End Times or AOS Gotrek books.


Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 09:02:38


Post by: Reavsie


Danny76 wrote:
 Reavsie wrote:
alphaecho wrote:


As a heads up, Limited Time Deals on Amazon UK for Kindle.

Titandeath, Heralds Of The Siege, Ciaphas Cain:Choose Your Enemies and Solar War are all £1.99 each.


Awesome, thanks!

I already had Titandeath and Heralds, but just ordered the others - cheers.

Haven't read any Ciaphas Cain books yet but have had my eye on them for a while. I know it will mean not reading them in the proper order but should let me know if I want to then jump in from the beginning.


Spoiler: you do want to read them from the beginning.


Thanks Danny76, I'll put that on the back burner then and wait until I am ready to read from the start.

I'm remembering Gaunt's Ghosts now and I'm glad I read that from the beginning.


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Post by: Overread


 Alpharius wrote:
Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


I would say they are yes. They are good classic adventuring stories. Plus the way GW set them up you basically get a whistle-stop tour of the various realms and races and peoples of the Old World. It's a neat way to get an introduction to much of the core setting whilst at the same time getting an action packed adventure along the way. I've been working through them myself and have been enjoying them greatly.


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Post by: Yodhrin


Good point Overread, the "grand tour" aspect of them is also cool. On which note, keep an eye out for them reprinting the Florin & Lorenzo omnibus(or grab a secondhand copy if they don't), it follows a pair of Bretonnian mercenary chancers and has a nice look at expeditions to Lustria and also the Ogres in the east.


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Post by: Alpharius


Yodhrin wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:
Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


The WHF ones? Can only speak for myself, but they're some of my favourites. Mostly solid adventuring fare, with a few real gems, and the only proper stinkers in the series IMO are one of the "off sequence" novels(the kinda-sorta-in Mordheim's total ruin one) and the "conclusion" duology under the End Times banner - and some folk will dismiss that conclusion given my well known opinions on the End Times and what came after, but seriously, if you find yourself enjoying the series give them a complete miss because they piss gleefully all over the characters as depicted up to to that point, they're relentlessly dour and po-faced, and make some really unnecessary choices about Gotrek's backstory and how it relates to another character. Unless you're extremely invested in the notion of following the "official" story through to AoS, it's better to leave the hows and whys of how the link up to your imagination.


I think I'll definitely, pick them up - thanks!

BobtheInquisitor wrote:The William King books are fantastic. I re-read Skavenslayer through Beastslayer every couple of years and never get tired of them.

The Nathan Long Gotrek books aren't necessarily bad, but they also don't feel like Gotrek and Felix books to me, either. I didn't read the End Times or AOS Gotrek books.


Are the post-Long books any good?

  • Road of Skulls by Josh Reynolds

  • City of the Damned by David Guymer

  • The Serpent Queen by Josh Reynolds

  • Kinslayer by David Guymer

  • Slayer by David Guymer


  • Or are some of those the "End Times" books?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 17:27:04


    Post by: Overread


    Alph whilst they are adventure books they do run a united narrative through them. At least all the "*****Slayer" style books link one right into the next. So it makes logical sense to read them in their publication order to follow the story along. Reading several of them out of order will really spoil big events, whilst others will introduce things that appear really odd if you're not there to see them unfold the first time within the story.

    The omnibus editions are neat because they combine some of the short stories into them (though some are not always chronologically placed perfectly, but I assume most are placed within publication order).

    The omnibus are also the cheapest way to get into reading the books and save you a massive saving over getting them all individually.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 19:48:04


    Post by: Yodhrin


     Alpharius wrote:
    Yodhrin wrote:
     Alpharius wrote:
    Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


    The WHF ones? Can only speak for myself, but they're some of my favourites. Mostly solid adventuring fare, with a few real gems, and the only proper stinkers in the series IMO are one of the "off sequence" novels(the kinda-sorta-in Mordheim's total ruin one) and the "conclusion" duology under the End Times banner - and some folk will dismiss that conclusion given my well known opinions on the End Times and what came after, but seriously, if you find yourself enjoying the series give them a complete miss because they piss gleefully all over the characters as depicted up to to that point, they're relentlessly dour and po-faced, and make some really unnecessary choices about Gotrek's backstory and how it relates to another character. Unless you're extremely invested in the notion of following the "official" story through to AoS, it's better to leave the hows and whys of how the link up to your imagination.


    I think I'll definitely, pick them up - thanks!

    BobtheInquisitor wrote:The William King books are fantastic. I re-read Skavenslayer through Beastslayer every couple of years and never get tired of them.

    The Nathan Long Gotrek books aren't necessarily bad, but they also don't feel like Gotrek and Felix books to me, either. I didn't read the End Times or AOS Gotrek books.


    Are the post-Long books any good?

  • Road of Skulls by Josh Reynolds

  • City of the Damned by David Guymer

  • The Serpent Queen by Josh Reynolds

  • Kinslayer by David Guymer

  • Slayer by David Guymer


  • Or are some of those the "End Times" books?


    I've never read Road of Skulls. City of the Damned is the first stinker I referred to, and Kinslayer & Slayer are the End Times duology that constitute the remaining stinkers.

    I actually quite enjoyed Serpent Queen, it's not Shakespeare but it's nice to see a bit of Tomb Kings/Southlands action.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 23:51:08


    Post by: BobtheInquisitor


    I started reading either Road of Skulls or a Serpent Queen and just never got around to finishing it. The rest, I haven't even picked up once.

    The first two Omnibuses are enough, in my opinion. Even William King's final addition, Giantslayer, is disposable. If you want to carry on from there...maybe go with the Ulrika books? If you're looking for more Old World adventure, the Brunner omnibus is great, and so are the Black...Company? Nathan Long's omnibus of Black...something.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/08 23:55:25


    Post by: Overread


    I actually found the Ulrika books less fun. I think its because they feel like the character lost a lot of her wild powerful mature nature and became a lot more innocent. The Ulrika of the Ulrika novels never feels like the kind of character who once rode free on the plains; trained with the soldiers; led warparties or even went to battle in no less than one of the greatest sieges of her day. They are still a good read and she comes into her own a bit more as they develop; she just doesn't feel the same - which to be fair she technically isn't the same in those books.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/14 09:33:23


    Post by: Overread


    My Realmslayer book arrived!

    Nice hardback with a light gilt edge to the pages. There's a short intro, then there's the body of the book which is the transcript for the audiobook. Within that there are two sections of pictures which are really well printed and presented - nice middle of the page, glossy vibrant artwork from all the covers of Gotrek and Felix novels. Heck they remind me why I'm annoyed GW still hasn't given us (witch) aelves riding on sea serpents!
    At the end is an interesting bit of the transcript with notations on it from the writers. Including details of bits that were cut or changed such as the intro being shortened by 15 minutes and removing the setup for the Fyreslayers being on the walkway when they meet Gotrek at the very start (honestly perhaps something that should have been there).


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/14 10:58:18


    Post by: Ignispacium


     BobtheInquisitor wrote:
    I started reading either Road of Skulls or a Serpent Queen and just never got around to finishing it. The rest, I haven't even picked up once.

    The first two Omnibuses are enough, in my opinion. Even William King's final addition, Giantslayer, is disposable. If you want to carry on from there...maybe go with the Ulrika books? If you're looking for more Old World adventure, the Brunner omnibus is great, and so are the Black...Company? Nathan Long's omnibus of Black...something.


    Blackhearts is I believe what you're describing. As far as I am aware the omnibus and all associated novels are no longer in print or available digitally.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/14 11:06:40


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Alpharius wrote:
    Yodhrin wrote:
     Alpharius wrote:
    Tempted to pick up the Gotrek omnibus books - are they worth the reading time?


    The WHF ones? Can only speak for myself, but they're some of my favourites. Mostly solid adventuring fare, with a few real gems, and the only proper stinkers in the series IMO are one of the "off sequence" novels(the kinda-sorta-in Mordheim's total ruin one) and the "conclusion" duology under the End Times banner - and some folk will dismiss that conclusion given my well known opinions on the End Times and what came after, but seriously, if you find yourself enjoying the series give them a complete miss because they piss gleefully all over the characters as depicted up to to that point, they're relentlessly dour and po-faced, and make some really unnecessary choices about Gotrek's backstory and how it relates to another character. Unless you're extremely invested in the notion of following the "official" story through to AoS, it's better to leave the hows and whys of how the link up to your imagination.


    I think I'll definitely, pick them up - thanks!

    BobtheInquisitor wrote:The William King books are fantastic. I re-read Skavenslayer through Beastslayer every couple of years and never get tired of them.

    The Nathan Long Gotrek books aren't necessarily bad, but they also don't feel like Gotrek and Felix books to me, either. I didn't read the End Times or AOS Gotrek books.


    Are the post-Long books any good?

  • Road of Skulls by Josh Reynolds

  • City of the Damned by David Guymer

  • The Serpent Queen by Josh Reynolds

  • Kinslayer by David Guymer

  • Slayer by David Guymer


  • Or are some of those the "End Times" books?


    The Serpent Queen is a excellent read - good fun, some amusing characters and lots of vampires.....

    Yeah City of the Damned was a massive disapontment = dull and pointless would be my view and thats as a Mordheim fan.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/14 21:47:18


    Post by: Danny76


    Oh man, Blackhearts was awesome.
    And yeah maybe not available now anywhere, as I sold my omnibus for quite a good amount, though it was as new.
    But I have the e-version so space matters these days (kids eh..)


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/14 22:00:43


    Post by: Overread


    Might be worth emailing BL about it - they've been reprinting in digital and physical a whole host of books from the Old World. A lot of omnibus editions have been re-released and are still being released (about one a month at present)


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/15 07:06:11


    Post by: BrookM


    It's also worth keeping an eye on this page every once in a while: https://www.warhammer-community.com/blacklibrarycomingsoon/

    I think we're due an update or two one of these weeks, as things have been thinned out quite a bit.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/15 14:14:27


    Post by: BobtheInquisitor


    Best to wait for a reprint on Blackhearts. I made the mistake of paying "out of print" prices for the last books in the Black Plague and Tyrion series back when the End Times was fresh and it looked like they'd never be reprinted, and now the whole omnibus editions are available for cheaper than the prices I paid per individual book.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/15 22:52:39


    Post by: Mr Morden


    Picked up Terminal Overkill today and read it to chill out after long week at work......

    https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/terminal-overkill-ebook-2019.html

    Good Necromunda yarn with some good action and interesting characters including the travelling herbsman/medic in his walking lab/shack. Nice set up for a sequal too. Although has a few elements from the newer lore, nothing jarring for me.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/16 22:03:12


    Post by: Knockagh


     Mr Morden wrote:
    Picked up Terminal Overkill today and read it to chill out after long week at work......

    https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/terminal-overkill-ebook-2019.html

    Good Necromunda yarn with some good action and interesting characters including the travelling herbsman/medic in his walking lab/shack. Nice set up for a sequal too. Although has a few elements from the newer lore, nothing jarring for me.


    I listened to this rather than reading and throughly enjoyed it. Found the setting and characters very engaging. I really enjoy first person 40k books, I find them particularly immersive. The reader was excellent. Glad to have a grown up novel for necromunda at long last.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/17 01:43:18


    Post by: Yodhrin


     Knockagh wrote:
     Mr Morden wrote:
    Picked up Terminal Overkill today and read it to chill out after long week at work......

    https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/terminal-overkill-ebook-2019.html

    Good Necromunda yarn with some good action and interesting characters including the travelling herbsman/medic in his walking lab/shack. Nice set up for a sequal too. Although has a few elements from the newer lore, nothing jarring for me.


    I listened to this rather than reading and throughly enjoyed it. Found the setting and characters very engaging. I really enjoy first person 40k books, I find them particularly immersive. The reader was excellent. Glad to have a grown up novel for necromunda at long last.


    Could you clarify what you mean by that last remark? Because I don't recall any of the novels I read in the setting before being for children, so my first instinct when people say stuff like "for grown ups" in comparison to prior pulpy novels is "po-faced over-seriousness and/or political sanctimony". I was interested based on what Morden said, but if it's going to be some plodding serious book about serious business that's serious for serious adults, then not so much.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/18 21:28:40


    Post by: Knockagh


     Yodhrin wrote:
     Knockagh wrote:
     Mr Morden wrote:
    Picked up Terminal Overkill today and read it to chill out after long week at work......

    https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/terminal-overkill-ebook-2019.html

    Good Necromunda yarn with some good action and interesting characters including the travelling herbsman/medic in his walking lab/shack. Nice set up for a sequal too. Although has a few elements from the newer lore, nothing jarring for me.


    I listened to this rather than reading and throughly enjoyed it. Found the setting and characters very engaging. I really enjoy first person 40k books, I find them particularly immersive. The reader was excellent. Glad to have a grown up novel for necromunda at long last.


    Could you clarify what you mean by that last remark? Because I don't recall any of the novels I read in the setting before being for children, so my first instinct when people say stuff like "for grown ups" in comparison to prior pulpy novels is "po-faced over-seriousness and/or political sanctimony". I was interested based on what Morden said, but if it's going to be some plodding serious book about serious business that's serious for serious adults, then not so much.


    Haha. Yes I get what you mean. My use of the term grown up was a rather poor and sloppy choice of phrase. It’s not slightly tongue in cheek book like some of the original books were. It looses the rather spaghetti western feel some people feel the old books had. It definitely takes a grittier look at life in the underhive and necromunda generally. But no it’s not a philosophy text book or a political manifesto.
    I have to say I enjoyed the original books but I felt this had a fresher feel and was delighted it took a different approach. I think the nastiness of the poverty that people live in and the cruelty of it all was much more apparent in this book than the others.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/18 21:42:49


    Post by: Yodhrin


     Knockagh wrote:
     Yodhrin wrote:
     Knockagh wrote:
     Mr Morden wrote:
    Picked up Terminal Overkill today and read it to chill out after long week at work......

    https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/featured/terminal-overkill-ebook-2019.html

    Good Necromunda yarn with some good action and interesting characters including the travelling herbsman/medic in his walking lab/shack. Nice set up for a sequal too. Although has a few elements from the newer lore, nothing jarring for me.


    I listened to this rather than reading and throughly enjoyed it. Found the setting and characters very engaging. I really enjoy first person 40k books, I find them particularly immersive. The reader was excellent. Glad to have a grown up novel for necromunda at long last.


    Could you clarify what you mean by that last remark? Because I don't recall any of the novels I read in the setting before being for children, so my first instinct when people say stuff like "for grown ups" in comparison to prior pulpy novels is "po-faced over-seriousness and/or political sanctimony". I was interested based on what Morden said, but if it's going to be some plodding serious book about serious business that's serious for serious adults, then not so much.


    Haha. Yes I get what you mean. My use of the term grown up was a rather poor and sloppy choice of phrase. It’s not slightly tongue in cheek book like some of the original books were. It looses the rather spaghetti western feel some people feel the old books had. It definitely takes a grittier look at life in the underhive and necromunda generally. But no it’s not a philosophy text book or a political manifesto.
    I have to say I enjoyed the original books but I felt this had a fresher feel and was delighted it took a different approach. I think the nastiness of the poverty that people live in and the cruelty of it all was much more apparent in this book than the others.


    OK fair enough, that doesn't sound so bad. It'd be a shame if they dump the cornball western stuff entirely, it's the fusion of that with the post-apoc and cybergothic elements that made Necromunda such a classic setting IMO, but so long as they don't vanish entirely up their own backside it should still be enjoyable.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/09/29 18:17:24


    Post by: BrookM


    Terminal Overkill is a decent read, the narrative is choppy and nicely to the point, making the chapters and paragraphs easy to digest. Also gives a nice insight into the Underhive, House Escher, (way too many) spiders and all that other delicious world building. Some terms and descriptions felt out of place, but it beats trying to shoe horn in some made up things to try and describe it instead.

    I will say this though, there's at least one section of the book that was really hammering home a certain rural aspect, the only thing missing was someone playing the banjo throughout it all.

    Right now on Rites of Passage, a direct sequel to a short story from the first Inferno! reboot.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/04 08:36:58


    Post by: Looky Likey


    Has this been posted yet? Does this mean its focused on the III or does it mean new types of Marines with the title's reference to the Gene Cult on Luna?

    [Thumb - signal-2019-10-04-091009.jpeg]


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/04 12:39:19


    Post by: beast_gts


     Looky Likey wrote:
    Has this been posted yet? Does this mean its focused on the III or does it mean new types of Marines with the title's reference to the Gene Cult on Luna?


    Spoiler:


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/04 12:51:25


    Post by: Nurglitch


    Finally, Nykona Sharrowkin is here to save the Emperor!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/04 13:40:00


    Post by: Looky Likey


    beast_gts wrote:
     Looky Likey wrote:
    Has this been posted yet? Does this mean its focused on the III or does it mean new types of Marines with the title's reference to the Gene Cult on Luna?


    Spoiler:
    That sounds far more interesting than I thought.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/07 15:56:16


    Post by: reds8n


     BrookM wrote:
    It's also worth keeping an eye on this page every once in a while: https://www.warhammer-community.com/blacklibrarycomingsoon/

    I think we're due an update or two one of these weeks, as things have been thinned out quite a bit.


    today is the day it seems.


    Idoneth Deepkin novel, sequel to the Overlods novel.


    -- read the recent Cawl book last week or so.

    Quite satisfying and answers a few questions that had been around for a while.



    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 01:42:56


    Post by: BrianDavion


    yeah the Cawl book is essential reading IMHO. it finally puts eneugh pieces together that by time your finished with it the primaris project is.... actually pretty sensable


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 02:00:21


    Post by: Yodhrin


    That's certainly one way to describe the book. I've also seen it described as an even greater expansion of his Cawly Sue-ness. The Necron thing, for example.

    Pass.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 05:43:54


    Post by: Snrub


    Oh do tell me about the necron thing. Nucrons combine with Cawliness. Nothing sensible can come of this!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 06:58:18


    Post by: BrianDavion


     Snrub wrote:
    Oh do tell me about the necron thing. Nucrons combine with Cawliness. Nothing sensible can come of this!


    Cawl is simply capable of interfacing to some degree with Necron computer systems. He claims no one has done anything like it before, but in fairness if a Techpreist HAS they'd proably not be telling many people.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 07:15:52


    Post by: Yodhrin


    BrianDavion wrote:
     Snrub wrote:
    Oh do tell me about the necron thing. Nucrons combine with Cawliness. Nothing sensible can come of this!


    Cawl is simply capable of interfacing to some degree with Necron computer systems. He claims no one has done anything like it before, but in fairness if a Techpreist HAS they'd proably not be telling many people.


    Lol, "simply capable of interfacing to some degree". He hacks and takes control of an entire complex. The techpriests in the Mechanicus PC game are "capable of interfacing to some degree", at great personal risk; Cawl goes full Assuming Direct Control over a machine race that was ancient when humans were apes and has tech that the Mechanicus often can't even comprehend the underlying principles of let alone control.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 07:33:44


    Post by: BrianDavion


    He manages to seize control of a swarm of scarabs, he hardly has "complete control" over it. and during the entire time the place is actrively fighting back.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 07:35:47


    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    So what do we actually learn in that book? This is the one with the cover that has him walking alongside a Scythes of the Emperor Primaris, which is interesting in and of itself.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 07:58:29


    Post by: BrianDavion


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    So what do we actually learn in that book? This is the one with the cover that has him walking alongside a Scythes of the Emperor Primaris, which is interesting in and of itself.


    actually it also has the remaining Scythes of the Emperor old Marines, and we learn a lot about their fate. Basicly they got screwed over, badly (and would have died out as a chapter if not for Primaris so they hold Cawl up as something of a savior) due to... being too nice. The population of Sothis, including it turned out some of their chapter thralls. was hopelessly comprimised by Genestealer cults. the smart thing to do once they fled the planet would have been to stop somewhere and cull everyone who wasn't a space marine among their ranks. it would have been some short term pain and would have been a "jerk thing to do" but..

    We also learn a fair bit about Cawl. We learn that Cawl is an amalgamation of a number of individuals (it's noted he's absorbed others over time so this gives GW a LOT of room to have an impressive skill set. since we know Cawl has his own faction in the admech I bet he's more then once absorbed partiuclarly promising adepts whom have come to him) the most important of which is a scientist whom was a personal student of the emperor's and helped develop the black carapiece. It's made pretty clear that the Space Marines wheren't invented by the Emperor alone working in a garage, and rather they where developed by a large team of scientists working under the Emperor. (which could make for some AMAZING stories if Black Library was ever so inclined)

    we learn that the first Primarius Marine (offically it's hinted that Cawl almost certainly made others who just didn't work) made is named "Primaris Alpha" and he was something of a "not completely sucessful prototype" he's noted to have a number of abilities normal primaris don't have including psykic potential. HOWEVER he's not exactly a sucess. he's in constant pain and it's outright said, Cawl overreached and it didn't work out and that the "production model" Primaris is actually toned down.
    This.. actually makes a lot of sense. Cawl tried to make a number of new additions and Primaris Marines simply have the handfull that actually worked.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 08:30:50


    Post by: Snrub


    BrianDavion wrote:
    He manages to seize control of a swarm of scarabs, he hardly has "complete control" over it. and during the entire time the place is actrively fighting back.
    That's like me just waltzing into NASA and successfully launching a rocket while fighting off guards, scientists and sundry others. It's the sort of silly muckin' about that you'd expect orks to whoopsie-daisy up, not a faction of extremely xenotechnophobic luddites.

    BrianDavion wrote:
    We learn that Cawl is an amalgamation of a number of individuals
    100% This will end up being "so that's what happened to Arkhan Land"


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 08:42:30


    Post by: BrianDavion


    That's like me just waltzing into NASA and successfully launching a rocket while fighting off guards, scientists and sundry others. It's the sort of silly muckin' about that you'd expect orks to whoopsie-daisy up, not a faction of extremely xenotechnophobic luddites.


    Cawl's been around since the heresy era and one of the major componants of his knowledge set isn't even a Martian Techpreist, but a disiple of the Emperor's. He's not exactly a normal "xenotechnophobic luddite" besides the idea that techpreists won't touch Xenostech is.. utterly untrue and has been for a long time. some won't sure but plenty will. they'll just cover up that any discoviries made as a result are from xenos tech.

    ohh also another VEEEEERY intreasting revelation. Cawl has NO intreast in being fabricator general, and knows he could never BE Fabricator general. He utterly is unintreasted in the position, and seemed very suprised, and intrigued to learn Cawl Inferior had been asking Gulliman, repeatedly for it. It would seem Cawl Inferior might have it's own distinct agenda.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 13:39:41


    Post by: BrookM


    Spoiler tags would've been nice folks..


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 13:59:14


    Post by: Ratius


    Are the new Siege of Terra books worth picking up by the way?
    Im just about to finish the old HH series.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 15:49:11


    Post by: Looky Likey


    The first SoT is incredible, the second is very good. The third is out soon but its written by Gav, so I'm not holding out much hope.

    Speaking of that the list of books available at the BL Weekender is up, and much to my annoyance it includes the third SoT book, The Great Wall: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/09/black-library-weekender-books-and-more/

    I will not be happy if they sell more than one copy to the people going. I'm not prepared to pay for a whole weekend just to buy the one book I'm worried about selling out in 5 minutes, but equally I won't be happy if its out of stock even quicker because of this.

    tons of images of all the pretty things on sale that weekend:
    Spoiler:











    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 16:28:36


    Post by: BrookM


    Is that Sabbats World Crusade book an updated version of one done a decade or so ago?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 16:39:38


    Post by: Kid_Kyoto


     BrookM wrote:
    Is that Sabbats World Crusade book an updated version of one done a decade or so ago?


    Yeah I'd like to know more about that. I had that book and remember it as disappointing, more maps and text than cool art.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 17:25:49


    Post by: Lord Damocles


    BrianDavion wrote:
    Cawl is simply capable of interfacing to some degree with Necron computer systems. He claims no one has done anything like it before, but in fairness if a Techpreist HAS they'd proably not be telling many people.

    Pft what a wimp. Some random Techmarine in Hellforged hijacked an entire tomb complex by just plugging into a crystal.

    No, really.
    Hellforged makes me sad


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 17:53:37


    Post by: Overread


    Darn it 40K gets a load of lore/special books and stuff and AoS gets Trollslayer (which far as I can tell is just the book in hardback released once again). Which isn't to say that Trollslayer is bad, just that its a bit underwhelming.

    Though its a bit of a moot point for me, I won't be going so either way I'd be missing out on the specialist stuff.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 18:28:10


    Post by: Captain Joystick


    So I just noticed that Audible has a preorder up for Caves of Ice.

    Pretty pleased with that, as the first Cain book was a quality production and Stephen Perring embodies him well.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/09 18:48:00


    Post by: Kanluwen


     Overread wrote:
    Darn it 40K gets a load of lore/special books and stuff and AoS gets Trollslayer (which far as I can tell is just the book in hardback released once again). Which isn't to say that Trollslayer is bad, just that its a bit underwhelming.

    Though its a bit of a moot point for me, I won't be going so either way I'd be missing out on the specialist stuff.

    Also we get "Court of the Blind King", the first novel centered on the Idoneth, on December 14th of this year.
    "Gloomspite" is the 28th of December.
    "Profit's Ruin"(a sequel to C.L. Werner's Kharadron novel) in early January.

    There's some AoS stuff coming, it just isn't as showy.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 10:16:43


    Post by: Kdash


    As much as I’d like to get some of the new books early, the £75 ticket entry price is just so incredibly insane from my pov. If I went I’d spend a fortune on new books and all the other interesting pick up stuff, so I don’t get why there is a need to lump on a massive up-front cost as well.

    It’s the same for events held at WHW compared to other independently run events. Never got why it costs nearly twice as much to go to an event at a dedicated venue, than it does for you to attend a similar sized venue that also has to rent the room etc.

    Super looking forward to picking up and reading the new Dante book though!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 10:37:51


    Post by: phillv85


     BrookM wrote:
    Is that Sabbats World Crusade book an updated version of one done a decade or so ago?


    Reprint but with updates and a new foreword if I remember correctly.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 10:57:40


    Post by: Overread


    Kdash wrote:
    As much as I’d like to get some of the new books early, the £75 ticket entry price is just so incredibly insane from my pov. If I went I’d spend a fortune on new books and all the other interesting pick up stuff, so I don’t get why there is a need to lump on a massive up-front cost as well.

    It’s the same for events held at WHW compared to other independently run events. Never got why it costs nearly twice as much to go to an event at a dedicated venue, than it does for you to attend a similar sized venue that also has to rent the room etc.

    Super looking forward to picking up and reading the new Dante book though!


    Esp when you add on staying overnight and travel costs and the like. That said I guess that the £75 goes toward many of the fees for those authors turning up (as well as their travel and such costs) and the events they hold. Though yeah a high entry fee does dull one's enthusiasm to then spend even more on high ticket items once in the event.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 11:24:12


    Post by: Insane Ivan


    I cannot be the only one who first glanced at this image, saw the motion of the two figures in the art picture and the fancy font of the title on the big red book, and read "DANCE".



    [Thumb - BLWeekender-Oct09-Darkness3gdfg.jpg]


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 12:00:05


    Post by: Padre


     Insane Ivan wrote:
    I cannot be the only one who first glanced at this image, saw the motion of the two figures in the art picture and the fancy font of the title on the big red book, and read "DANCE".




    Indeed, you are not...and now I'm having trouble un-seeing it.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/10 13:25:45


    Post by: Looky Likey


     BrookM wrote:
    Is that Sabbats World Crusade book an updated version of one done a decade or so ago?
    Last time it was bought up at a seminar it was a freshly updated version.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/12 09:29:39


    Post by: Overread


    https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Classic-Inferno-Print-on-Demand-Collection-3-2019

    Darn GW suddenly doubled the price by doubling the amount of Inferno reprints they do at once! Also I don't recall them doing any marketing for a jump that big. Why does GW have to do these stealth expensive releases with just a week or two to order.

    Though its not all bad, TEN books at a time does mean that, in theory, it won't take as long to complete the whole collection of reprints and the price per magazine is still the same £5, which is honestly about what you'd spend getting hold of them secondhand.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/12 10:50:28


    Post by: phillv85


    It is annoying how they do that. Even if they just had a coming next week on them it’d help. I’ll have to wait until payday before ordering mine.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/12 13:35:10


    Post by: BrookM


    Yeah, not cool, had to dig into the savings account for that one.

    Also surprised that the Covenant story collection popped up for preorder today, totally forgot about that one and aside from it being mentioned somewhere before, no release date was mentioned IIRC.

    So, bit of an expensive day today, but good(?) reads ahead with Inferno! #4, Covenant and the Lost and the Damned waiting for me next week. Hopefully the reprint run will be out and about before Christmas.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/15 15:49:58


    Post by: Overread


    Worth a look for book fans
    https://www.totalwar.com/blog/fall-into-autumn-with-total-war-ebooks-and-beyond/

    That's all the current TW ebooks which includes all the things for Warhammer Old World that they've got to date. Note its not ordered by series so its a bit of a jumble; just keep going through all the way to the bottom to see them all.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/15 18:13:56


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Overread wrote:
    Worth a look for book fans
    https://www.totalwar.com/blog/fall-into-autumn-with-total-war-ebooks-and-beyond/

    That's all the current TW ebooks which includes all the things for Warhammer Old World that they've got to date. Note its not ordered by series so its a bit of a jumble; just keep going through all the way to the bottom to see them all.


    Cheers thats very kind of you to flag up


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/16 13:50:26


    Post by: reds8n


    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/16/readers-choice-the-resultsgw-homepage-post-3-2/


    Back in August, you were given the chance to vote on which classic Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Chronicles novels will get new paperback editions for the 2020 Black Library Celebration. In addition, you got to select which book you’d most like to see get an unabridged audio release. What did you choose? Let’s find out.

    Of the six options in this poll, the worthy winner – with fully 50% of the vote – was Helsreach by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. This Armageddon-set novel focuses on Black Templars Chaplain Grimaldus as he fights to defend Helsreach Hive on Armageddon from marauding greenskin hordes.

    It’s been out of print for years, and you lot are clearly excited by the chance to own it in paperback again – and rightly so!

    This was much closer, with a tiny difference in the vote between the top and bottom entries. Chris Wraight’s Iron Company won the day. This cannon-filled tale is based around a retired engineer called back to duty when his old rival arms rebels in the heart of the Empire. It’s packed full of (literally) explosive action, and you’ll be able to get it in print again next year.

    Audiobooks
    Three novels topped the final poll – and the audio wizards at Black Library immediately got to work. We are delighted to announce that all of these top three titles will be coming to audio over the next few months!

    Those three books are (imagine a drumroll here) First and Only by Dan Abnett, Ahriman: Exile by John French and Trollslayer by William King. We can’t wait to discover which talented actors narrate them and experience these classic stories in a new way.

    Both Helsreach and Iron Company will return to store shelves in February 2020 as part of the Black Library Celebration – sign up to the Black Library newsletter for more news about this event, and to discover when your favourite books get their shiny new audiobook editions.





    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/17 11:12:40


    Post by: BrianDavion


    So Just finished reading the lost and the damned, and Guy Haley, yet again, knocks it out of the park. It started off a bit slow but damn it got good. I'm gonna let you guys in on a secret, normally combat in novels bores me, there's only so many ways to write "HE SHOT IT WITH HIS GUN" etc. but in this he managed to make the siege gripping, I had to keep turning the pages. Best "40k siege story" since storm of iron.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/20 12:22:40


    Post by: Overread


    Inferno 4 is proving to be a great read. Some very nice stories in it and the continuing AoS stories within stories takes a very sudden turn for the worst (for the characters that is).


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/20 12:24:07


    Post by: reds8n


    .. have been kinda tempted to start the "new" HH books but think I'll soldier on until the regular series has finished first still.


    For those Stateside members who are near the Warhammer Citadel the 2nd series of novellas is available -- while stocks last presumably.

    Picked the paperback version of the latest Deathwatch novel by Steve Parker .

    Enjoyed the first one wwaayy back in the day and must admit I never thought we'd see this/any follow up, so here's hoping.

    Read "Scourge of Fate" which was.... err.... don't want to damn it with faint praise but... alright ..?

    It motored along quite nicely and it was quite interesting to learn a bit more about the Varanguard and the situations relating to them & Archaon.

    Did feel a little bit like a reskinning of the Malus Darkblade series somewhat though.

    I'm sure this is somewhat intentional -- and sensible too quite possibly -- and I'll probably give any 2nd book in the series a (paperback) try -- only fair to give the series a chance to find its feet.

    I preferred the authors Carcharodons marine novels.

    I still find much of the AOS storytelling to be.. not quite right.

    It's almost as if they've made the potential settings too big perhaps ?

    So you almost don't really care if the CITYOFPLOTDOOM or whatever is destroyed as it won't really matter.

    One appreciates this is potentially possible with 40k as well but -- YMMV -- the setting and the implications thereof just seem to hang together a bit better.

    Possibly.


    ..








    [Thumb - warhamnovell2.jpg]


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/20 13:28:43


    Post by: JoeRugby


    Audible UK are running a load of their daily deals again en mass. The deals change everyday at midnight but today they’ve got

    Horus Rising
    Warhammer Adventures : attack of the necron

    Don’t know if this is just for the UK site so sorry if you don’t get it for cheap today too.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/20 14:43:35


    Post by: BrookM


    Going through Inferno! #4 now myself and so far, it's okay, aside from the Brazen Claw story, which was excellent, really looking forward to its conclusion(?) next issue.

    Also got the Lost and the Damned and Covenant - Divination up next, with the two horror releases awaiting me next Saturday (the House of Night and Chain novel and the Way Out audio drama).

    And yes, we need another Space Shark novel already! Hoping that the Badab Wars are next.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/21 07:00:44


    Post by: BrookM


    Almost done with Inferno! #4 (with special thanks to insomnia) and my personal favourites so far are the Prince's Tale, Salvage Rites, Green and Grey and the Fourfold Wound.

    And not sure if this book has been announced yet, but Nick Kyme is also doing a 40k horror novel, which will hopefully not feature Salamanders (sorry Nick!):

    [Thumb - EHVinWmXYAAHuZA.jpg]


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/22 21:37:43


    Post by: BrookM


    Wrapped up the Lost and the Damned, massive step up from the first one in my opinion and while it was filler, it did a nice job of painting the scene of what's to come. It had a very satisfying showdown in there ridding us of a horrible character as well.

    Only thing I'm clueless about..

    Spoiler:
    They mention a coup by Lorgar. When did this happen?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/22 21:42:42


    Post by: Mr Morden


    Sequal to Deathwatch by Steve Parker was good and enjoyable - bit to tantalising on some of the plots I really want to know more about.

    I did think
    Spoiler:
    more Marines needed to die


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/22 22:49:35


    Post by: GaroRobe


     BrookM wrote:
    Wrapped up the Lost and the Damned, massive step up from the first one in my opinion and while it was filler, it did a nice job of painting the scene of what's to come. It had a very satisfying showdown in there ridding us of a horrible character as well.

    Only thing I'm clueless about..

    Spoiler:
    They mention a coup by Lorgar. When did this happen?


    Spoiler:
    he tried to kill Horus recently. It failed


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 05:57:32


    Post by: phillv85


    I'm about three quarters of the way through The Solar War, with Lost and the Damned next on the pile. I'm really enjoying it except for...

    Spoiler:
    the Mersadie Olitan parts. Every time it pans back to her story arc I lose interest. I'm sure she'll be a key character with her vision, but my god is it slow.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 15:16:51


    Post by: BrookM


    Via newsletter: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/10/23/a-very-black-library-christmasgw-homepage-post-4/

    The Black Library Advent Calendar 2019 is a sumptuous treat for the senses* and gives you 25 stunning A3 art prints. There’s one to open each day in the buildup to Christmas, with an extra-special one for Christmas Day.** 12 of the prints feature glorious cover art from Black Library novels. The other 12 also feature fantastic art, with a twist – they’ve been turned into posters.






    Not my cuppa, but a nice one nonetheless. Speaking of cups..

    Available at the Horus Heresy weekender and elsewhere:



    Made from bamboo, with a silicone lid and handle (to protect your hands from the heat of the liquid within), this stylish mug is the perfect way to carry your warm drinks this winter.

    It’s adorned with Neil Roberts’ art from Visions of Heresy, depicting the duel between the Emperor and Horus – instantly marking you out as a fan of the Horus Heresy, great artwork AND hot beverages. If you’re not at the Weekender, this will also be available to order on Saturday 2nd November.




    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 15:46:04


    Post by: phillv85


    Damn, I got excited about the prints until I saw they'd turned half of them into movie posters


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 15:49:36


    Post by: Overread


    There's only only just a few more then 1300 of them gone into print. So whilst its very neat all those prints and a really limited release is likely to come with quite a big cost; esp for an international release.



    That said I'm more excited about the new Novella series and look forward to grabbing them when they go out on sale on ebook.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 15:52:12


    Post by: BrookM


    On the fence about the upcoming novellas myself, I wasn't a big fan of a lot of the ones in the previous run. And looking at the upcoming series, only ones I really want to read are the Sisters of Battle and horror story.

    The Necromunda and Thieves Paradise novellas have prequels of sorts in Inferno! #4 by the way.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 17:27:12


    Post by: Mr Morden


    Really looking forward to Inferno 4 and the novellas - especially the AOS ones


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 18:48:21


    Post by: nels1031


     reds8n wrote:
    Read "Scourge of Fate" which was.... err.... don't want to damn it with faint praise but... alright ..?

    It motored along quite nicely and it was quite interesting to learn a bit more about the Varanguard and the situations relating to them & Archaon.


    Yeah, and I think that was the selling point of the novel, just a glimpse inside to something that is close to the highest tier of Chaos.

    I liked it quite a bit and am looking forward to (hopefully) a sequel to delve further into the Varanspire.

     reds8n wrote:
    Did feel a little bit like a reskinning of the Malus Darkblade series somewhat though.

    I'm sure this is somewhat intentional -- and sensible too quite possibly -- and I'll probably give any 2nd book in the series a (paperback) try -- only fair to give the series a chance to find its feet.


    Yeah, I can agree with that, though I think any story where what is essentially the villian is the protagonists will have some overlap. We would be cheering against this guy in a more traditional tale.

     reds8n wrote:
    I still find much of the AOS storytelling to be.. not quite right. It's almost as if they've made the potential settings too big perhaps ?


    I can agree with that to an extent. I just think that AoS is still so new that its sometimes hard to get emotionally invested with people and places at times. The problem lies in comparing the fluff of a world that was built over decades to a new seting that is kind of still in its infancy. A few more years of development will do wonders.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/23 18:57:22


    Post by: Splog


     nels1031 wrote:
    I just think that AoS is still so new that its sometimes hard to get emotionally invested with people and places at times. The problem lies in comparing the fluff of a world that was built over decades to a new seting that is kind of still in its infancy. A few more years of development will do wonders.


    I think most people would not accept this for standalone works of fiction, so I don't think it should be acceptable for franchise/setting fiction either. The deep lore and layers previous works should enhance an individual stories told in the setting, not be a necessary crutch to make them worthwhile.

    Though having said that, I've read a fair amount of BL output that I wouldn't put up with elsewhere, but because it is part of a favourite setting or series I'm keen on (*cough* *cough* Horus Heresy *cough*)...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 09:22:44


    Post by: reds8n


    ...all good points.

    Just felt the cursed/evil sword & the mount etc etc were a wee bit too similar.

    Although the character/nature of the "hero" were sufficiently different to just about make it work.

    Reasonable use of actual tactics etc was appreciated too.

    Although I'm a bit unsure as to exactly how the plot was resolved as such

    spoilers hide spoilers

    Spoiler:


    .. the initial idea that a human hero will become a Stormcast and do x/y/z ...

    ... aren't all the stormcasts dead or killed prior to becoming reforged anyway ?

    So wouldn't killing him actually make this happen ?

    I don't quite get what would've stopped Sigmar from snatching up his soul anyway when he was killed.

    Is it the use of a daemonblade/magic weapon or is it more that if he died now he wouldn't currently be worthy as such -- hadn't quite progressed enough in some way or other ?



    anyway :

    https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Valdor-Birth-Of-The-Imperium-Ltd-Ed-2019?_requestid=5187415


    A Horus Heresy Character Novel

    Constantin Valdor is the chief of the Emperor's Custodian Guard and among the closest of His companions. As the wars of Unity come to their end, he faces his greatest challenge, as dark deeds are required to pave mankind's road to the stars.

    READ IT BECAUSE
    Delve into the era of the Unification Wars and discover Constantin Valdor's role in bringing about the Imperium of Mankind in an unmissable novel by Chris Wraight!

    THE STORY
    Constantin Valdor. It is a name that brings forth images of heroism, honour and peerless duty. For it is he who commands the will of the Legio Custodes that most esteemed and dedicated cadre of elite warriors. He is the Emperor’s sword, His shield, His banner and he knows no equal. Clad in shining auramite, his fist clenched around the haft of his guardian spear, he is the bulwark against all enemies of the throne,

    within or without.

    Nearing the end of the wars of Unity, Valdor’s courage and purpose is put to the test as never before. The petty warlords and tyrants of Old Earth have been all but vanquished, and the Emperor’s armies are triumphant. What now for the nascent Imperium and what fate its forgotten soldiers, its Thunder Warriors and armies of Unity? A new force is rising, one which shall eclipse all others and open the way to the stars. But change on Terra is seldom bloodless, and for progress to be ensured darker deeds are necessary.

    This luxurious Limited Edition hardback features a cloth-covered spine, foil-embossed cover and two full-art pages not featured in the standard edition. Only 1,500 copies are available.

    Written by Chris Wraight



    does sound good .. think I#ll wait for a less ££££ version however.. Xmas is a comin' after all.

    related :

    https://www.trackofwords.com/2019/10/26/rapid-fire-chris-wraight-talks-valdor-birth-of-the-imperium/


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 09:51:57


    Post by: BrianDavion


    hopefully we don';t have to wait over 6 months for the "not stupidly expensive edition"


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 09:52:43


    Post by: ImAGeek


    I got it. I love everything Wraight writes, and I really like Valdor as a character from what I’ve read so far.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 09:52:57


    Post by: Looky Likey


    I picked up the limited edition as I`m a sucker for limited editions. Looks like a novelette hence it about £5 cheaper than a normal limited?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 13:40:23


    Post by: BrookM


    I'll wait for a normal edition to happen in six or so months, as much as I like the author's work, bit too much for me.

    Did pick up the latest two horror releases today, will get into those later tonight after I wrap up Divination, which has some good short stories in there.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/26 15:21:17


    Post by: Overread


    Ordered my Inferno reprints today! Took a big chunk of money out (£50) and whilst I'm still really happy to get them and the price per issue is very fair (£5) its still a shame GW doubled up without warning. I just hope they don't double-up again next time!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/30 15:04:19


    Post by: BrookM


    First part of the Warhammer Horror story "The Way Out" has been put out for free on Youtube by GW:






    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/10/30 15:33:49


    Post by: Nurglitch


     ImAGeek wrote:
    I got it. I love everything Wraight writes, and I really like Valdor as a character from what I’ve read so far.


    Agreed. Wraight writes some great Warhammer fiction.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 11:57:21


    Post by: reds8n


    coming soon page


    feb 2020 additions.

    regular hardback edition of the valdor book.

    very please to see JC Stearns get a full novel, enjoyed all his short stories immensely.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 13:04:20


    Post by: Lord Damocles


    You'd think that with so few named Necron characters existing, the chances of them getting muddled up would be fairly low...

    But Severed features the THIRD character to be named Setekh.

    Is Setekh the Necrontyr version of John or something?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 13:30:00


    Post by: reds8n




    In our RPG campaigns we have an ongoing joke about the number of people called Imhotep -- even though the setting is not remotely Egyptianish for the most part.

    It's a reference to a throw away line in an old episode of " Look Around You".


    https://www.amazon.com/Lion-ElJonson-First-Heresy-Primarchs/dp/1789990777

    May 2020

    https://www.amazon.com/Scions-Emperor-Anthology-Heresy-Primarchs/dp/1789991765/ref=sr_1_3?qid=1572700678&refinements=p_27%3ADavid+Guymer&s=books&sr=1-3&text=David+Guymer

    August 2020


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 13:44:14


    Post by: Iracundus


     Lord Damocles wrote:
    You'd think that with so few named Necron characters existing, the chances of them getting muddled up would be fairly low...

    But Severed features the THIRD character to be named Setekh.

    Is Setekh the Necrontyr version of John or something?


    There were 11 Egyptian Pharaohs named Ramesses.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 13:56:35


    Post by: Lord Damocles


    Iracundus wrote:
     Lord Damocles wrote:
    You'd think that with so few named Necron characters existing, the chances of them getting muddled up would be fairly low...

    But Severed features the THIRD character to be named Setekh.

    Is Setekh the Necrontyr version of John or something?


    There were 11 Egyptian Pharaohs named Ramesses.

    Which is great, but there's a reason The Lord of the Rings doesn't have six guys named Aragorn, and every other Space Marine isn't named Calgar.

    Sure, it might be entirely reasonable that a Nemesor, a Cryptek, and a giant Lord-level construct would all have the same name, but having multiple unconnected characters all share a name is generally avoided in fiction for a reason. I assume that the repetition isn't deliberate; and given that Cryptek-Setekh is only less than two years old, I would have expected* an editor to pick it up.


    *Actually, no. No I wouldn't. These are Black Library Necrons after all...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 17:07:59


    Post by: parakuribo





    Here's hoping they're Cain and Rafen.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 17:24:25


    Post by: BrookM


    One male, one female. Tired AF, so doesn't ring any bells just yet. If I were to wishlist, I'd hope for Ianthe and Elias from the Agent of the Throne series, but seeing as they're adventurers, probably Age of Sigmar related, maybe some more characters introduced with the new Gotrek audio dramas?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 17:26:31


    Post by: ImAGeek


     BrookM wrote:
    One male, one female. Tired AF, so doesn't ring any bells just yet. If I were to wishlist, I'd hope for Ianthe and Elias from the Agent of the Throne series, but seeing as they're adventurers, probably Age of Sigmar related, maybe some more characters introduced with the new Gotrek audio dramas?


    There was the 40k logo at the start of the video.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 17:31:47


    Post by: BrookM


     ImAGeek wrote:
     BrookM wrote:
    One male, one female. Tired AF, so doesn't ring any bells just yet. If I were to wishlist, I'd hope for Ianthe and Elias from the Agent of the Throne series, but seeing as they're adventurers, probably Age of Sigmar related, maybe some more characters introduced with the new Gotrek audio dramas?


    There was the 40k logo at the start of the video.
    Derp, like I said, tired AF.

    Then I'm sticking with my audio drama wishlist item.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/02 17:35:12


    Post by: Mr Morden


    Apparently Ephrael Stern was mentioned in the first Pheonix Arising book?

    Not sure about him as he is described as a new recruit?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/03 14:27:35


    Post by: GaroRobe


    I'd love to have models from the Inquisitors from Vaults of Terra. Though, the descriptions don't match. The woman would be the younger recruit and the older Inquisitor would be the dude. Shame. It would be cool to see her wield her IF Crosius and him to wield his pistol.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/03 15:38:47


    Post by: Irbis


    Cain and Amberley, please


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/03 17:20:23


    Post by: Kanluwen


    Honestly, if it weren't for the "adventurers" bit...I'd think it might be Minka and Shand from Justin Hill's "Cadian" books.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 11:32:19


    Post by: reds8n


    https://twitter.com/blacklibrarium


    Spoiler:










    more pics to come no doubt.

    Gather there's copies of the 3rd siege book and the Dante one already up on e-bay

    -- gather people are being limited to one copy per person currently.

    https://twitter.com/SkinnyElbows/status/1192955734222397441


    The Siege of Terra gets SUPERSIZED! These oversize prints of my covers look crazy at this scale. (Tired artist shown for scale)


    Spoiler:








    very glad that map is going on sale...

    .. somewhat a'feart as to what the cost will be however.

    Finished the Deathwtach : Shadowbreaker which was very satisfying indeed IMO.

    Built nicely upon the previous novel/characters.

    Bit of a shame it took so long to come out -- had to reread the 1st book to refresh one's memory of who/what etc etc etc etc , but that's hardly a chore eh ?

    Hope there's another in the series much sooner than previously.

    About halfway through Mr Thorpe's "Red Feast" which is proving enjoyable too.





    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 11:54:44


    Post by: BrookM


    Any word on the new minis?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 12:05:18


    Post by: Irbis


    Zero, but the cover of new WD might be a good hint and it fits the vague description, too...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 12:39:45


    Post by: Yodhrin


    When you say that the map is "going on sale" do you mean it'll be getting a general release, or that it'll be theoretically available from BL's website for about 30 seconds on a Saturday morning, 1 GW store in 10 will get a single copy, and third parties will be allowed to order it but then get told there's no allocation for them?

    The "Regimental Badges" book could be interesting.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 13:10:43


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Irbis wrote:
    Cain and Amberley, please


    Hell yes, although looking forward to most characters as long as its not yet another Marine model.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 16:28:27


    Post by: zamerion


    Where are the miniatures? They said at 4.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 16:45:23


    Post by: BroodSpawn


    I believe it's 4pm Sunday for any reveals from the Weekender on WarCom. Any other news is going to come from anyone attending, and since it's not a miniature focused event the usual picture takers aren't at it


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 16:48:16


    Post by: BrookM


    That's a bummer.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 16:52:20


    Post by: zamerion


    Argg its tomorrow. Ok thanks


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/09 19:20:40


    Post by: Kanluwen


    What's really strange is that there was supposed to be a "Grand Tournament Preview" yesterday but...nada.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 11:35:17


    Post by: reds8n


    https://twitter.com/Xisor/status/1193136887646576641


    This just in: Penitent's halfway through being written.

    "The truth of the situation is that it will melt your underpants. If people get to the end of it and don't say 'how did they let him do that!?', I'll be shocked.

    "About three people know, and they had to have a sit down after I told them."




    I consider this gentleman to be quite reliable/unlikely to make things like this up.

    Bodes well.



    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 12:16:23


    Post by: BrookM


    Huh, that's more or less the same as when Dan did the Voxcast. Really looking forward to it, looks like it won't be done by the next BL day in February, as I had hoped.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 13:39:21


    Post by: nels1031


     reds8n wrote:
    https://twitter.com/Xisor/status/1193136887646576641


    This just in: Penitent's halfway through being written.

    "The truth of the situation is that it will melt your underpants. If people get to the end of it and don't say 'how did they let him do that!?', I'll be shocked.

    "About three people know, and they had to have a sit down after I told them."




    I consider this gentleman to be quite reliable/unlikely to make things like this up.

    Bodes well.



    Can you ask him what will happen if I’m not wearing underpants when I read it? Just want to be safe.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 14:13:40


    Post by: reds8n


     nels1031 wrote:
    what will happen if I’m not wearing underpants when I read it? Just want to be safe.


    not wearing underpants



    not wearing underpants



    .... well.. that's the colonies for you.

    cover of the new anthology

    Spoiler:













    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 14:17:41


    Post by: BrookM


    Something to look forward to for February next year then. Somewhat surprises that Danie Ware hasn't written a full Sisters novel yet.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:12:03


    Post by: alphaecho


     BrookM wrote:
    Something to look forward to for February next year then. Somewhat surprises that Danie Ware hasn't written a full Sisters novel yet.



    Amazon UK show this one from Rachel Harrison in May 20.

    https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Mark-Faith-Warhammer-40-000/dp/1789990866/ref=pd_sbs_14_20?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1789990866&pd_rd_r=03216349-afd5-4ca4-9346-3f083aa9163a&pd_rd_w=twQ21&pd_rd_wg=FmTRD&pf_rd_p=cc188cba-1892-42b3-956f-6c67d0ab7a00&pf_rd_r=NBTN900Y0PZ82DX0J2CG&psc=1&refRID=NBTN900Y0PZ82DX0J2CG


    In fact they have quite a few new listings (for me anyway) for advance order.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:22:46


    Post by: BrookM


    I'll be getting that one as well, though I'd much rather like to see another Severina Raine novel myself.

    A new Watchers of the Throne though? Oh Black fething Sabbath yes!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:29:18


    Post by: Kanluwen


    Track of words posted this:

    Warhammer Crime announcement!

    Now we wait for Law and Order: Realmgate Unit?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:45:18


    Post by: ImAGeek


    Wow. That’s a mix I’d never thought of but has the potential to be pretty cool. Arbites, Enforcers, Inquisitors, that kinda thing. I suppose some of the Inquisition stuff isn’t too far off already.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:48:11


    Post by: GaroRobe


    Any word on the models?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 15:58:01


    Post by: ImAGeek


    GaroRobe wrote:
    Any word on the models?


    Apparently they’re the Watchers of the Throne (so Custodes and Sister of Silence?).


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:05:33


    Post by: Kanluwen


    I really hope that's not true, because there are so many other interesting things that could be done.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:09:08


    Post by: Kanluwen


    The Sister of Silence looks cool, but wow the proportions are off on that Custodes going by the cover for the new book.


    Not impressed by the Custodes at all.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:11:15


    Post by: Mr Morden


    The book cover has two dynamic characters - and oh dear the models really are not.

    The Custodes is just really bad.

    Well at least Sisters of Silence get a character model finally


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:11:30


    Post by: ImAGeek


    He’s okay, just don’t like his face. The cover art is very cool.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:11:39


    Post by: GaroRobe


    Dang. I was afraid of that. Would have preferred the Inquisitors


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:16:09


    Post by: changemod


    Except for the laurels, I see nothing on that guy that makes him distinct from the base custodian guard kit.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:18:34


    Post by: GaroRobe


     Mr Morden wrote:
    The book cover has two dynamic characters - and oh dear the models really are not.

    The Custodes is just really bad.

    Well at least Sisters of Silence get a character model finally


    The designer mentions they deliberately chose stoic poses.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:19:34


    Post by: Kanluwen


     Mr Morden wrote:
    The book cover has two dynamic characters - and oh dear the models really are not.

    The Custodes is just really bad.

    Well at least Sisters of Silence get a character model finally

    If I'm going to be hypercritical:
    The Sister of Silence is a fantastic model. Yeah, she's not doing the 'on guard!' pose from the cover...but she's doing something that I feel works great. She looks like an executioner, waiting for the moment when the 'guilty' pronouncement is made.

    The Custodes, for me, is just not great. He looks tiny compared to the cover art--and it's not helped by the fact that he's standing 'at attention' like she is. Also...that face.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:21:56


    Post by: Tim the Biovore


    Hmm. I don't see a mention of the collector's edition of The First Wall being available yet. Do we know if that's because it's going up for pre-order next weekend and therefore too soon to waste the space on the Weekender reveals?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:24:09


    Post by: Mr Morden


    Ughhh such a cock up

    They could have reproduced the cover maybe with a base that fitted both - would hagve been great.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:25:08


    Post by: Arbitrator


    How disappointing. At a glance there's pretty much nothing separating them from a standard Custard Cream/Sister of Silence except they're posed differently.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:27:11


    Post by: Mothman


    Fabius bile book has me most excited, that series is seriously underrated


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:35:13


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Mothman wrote:
    Fabius bile book has me most excited, that series is seriously underrated


    I have been enjoying them - interested also to see what they do with E Stern.....


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:35:14


    Post by: Tim the Biovore


     Tim the Biovore wrote:
    Hmm. I don't see a mention of the collector's edition of The First Wall being available yet. Do we know if that's because it's going up for pre-order next weekend and therefore too soon to waste the space on the Weekender reveals?


    Just noticed that Dante Deluxe Edition was mentioned as forthcoming, so I assume that'll coincide with The First Wall. At least, I hope so.

    EDIT: Meant to edit, not quote. D'oh!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:37:43


    Post by: ImAGeek


    Yeah, I’m more disappointed with those models every time I see them tbh.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:38:08


    Post by: Overread


    Darn it GW just put Sisters of Silence into Custodes already!

    Have to say I like the Sister of Silence model! The Custodes has rather flat painting on the face (which might also be the result of the photography light used as well making it appear worse than in reality). Though I have to agree he's not as big as he is in the art.



    Warhammer Crime makes perfect sense especially since there is that TV Series being made which also focuses on the crime side of things; a tandem product setup like that is something GW has oft done and is a good way to build one against the other.

    I'll be interested to see what is in Oaths and Conquests for AoS. I'm guessing most of the current short stories for AoS that aren't in a collection will appear, though I hope its got some unique stories to it (and less of those darn repeats GW )



    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:48:56


    Post by: BrookM


    Huh, not what I was expecting modelwise, but congrats to mr. Wraight for joining the ranks of authors whose characters get turned into models. Would've been better if the Sister made an obscene hand gesture.

    The Warhammer Crime announcement is an interesting one, looking forward to seeing this unfold, as the Warhammer Horror line thus far has been pretty solid.

    Only thing missing is the exact date of the BL Celebration 2020, unless I missed it.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 16:50:04


    Post by: Kanluwen


    They simply said "February".


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:00:35


    Post by: parakuribo


    Bummed that neither of em were Cain, but I'm not complaining since they're Custodes(can't have too many options). Methinks they will probably chose those two to make up for Raine thoug...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:01:27


    Post by: Irbis



    His head is clownishly big, 4 heads to body is proportions of 3 year old. I thought they can't top Kidbaddon, but they just did

    I really hope he comes with a helmet. Pretty please?

    Sister is nice, but it's the pose you can build from box already, and why she replaced half of her armour with gimp suit?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:04:07


    Post by: kendoka


    Brienne of Tarth as a Custodes?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:04:16


    Post by: ClockworkZion


    Christopher Walken Custodes is hopefully not quite as small as he looks here.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:24:35


    Post by: Lord Damocles


    Ye Gods! That Valerian is bad.

    He looks like a kitbash with an oversized head bolted on.

    Aleya is unoffensively ok, but I'm not a fan of the fact that she lacks the over-the-shoulder furs like Krole.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:28:08


    Post by: PlaguePony


    My god, thats a big head.... its so big its got moons orbiting it.... its so big its in 2 different postcodes....


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:35:57


    Post by: ClockworkZion


    PlaguePony wrote:
    My god, thats a big head.... its so big its got moons orbiting it.... its so big its in 2 different postcodes....




    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:38:08


    Post by: Erren


    I’m excited SoS are getting an HQ, I’ll happily use her as a generic HQ in 30k. Hopefully they’re purchased separately, because the less said about that Custodes, the better.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:49:17


    Post by: Lord Damocles


    So in the video GW put up about the new models, Battistotti says of Valerian that, 'he's a new blood, a new recruit'; and describes Aleya as, 'more of a character linked to the old order'.

    That's totally ass backwards. At the beginning of Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion, Valerian is already a Shield Captain, while Aleya doesn't join up with other Imperial forces until about half way through the book.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:50:53


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Lord Damocles wrote:
    So in the video GW put up about the new models, Battistotti says of Valerian that, 'he's a new blood, a new recruit'; and describes Aleya as, 'more of a character linked to the old order'.

    That's totally ass backwards. At the beginning of Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion, Valerian is already a Shield Captain, while Aleya doesn't join up with other Imperial forces until about half way through the book.


    Yeah he was talking nonsense - its a pity they did not just give him the book cover and say - "make this"


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:51:24


    Post by: ClockworkZion


     Lord Damocles wrote:
    So in the video GW put up about the new models, Battistotti says of Valerian that, 'he's a new blood, a new recruit'; and describes Aleya as, 'more of a character linked to the old order'.

    That's totally ass backwards. At the beginning of Watchers of the Throne: The Emperor's Legion, Valerian is already a Shield Captain, while Aleya doesn't join up with other Imperial forces until about half way through the book.

    And she was pretty green as well.

    Basically they got the roles backwards there. Shame really.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 17:59:24


    Post by: Overread


    Just a point but the new AoS book isn't by J. Reynolds - he confirmed over on TGA that its by Clint Werner.


    Sounds a little like GW needs to get their community materials team a bit more instruction in GW/BL publications


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 18:10:51


    Post by: ImAGeek


    The First Wall limited edition goes up for preorder on Saturday.
    https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/10/battle-sisters-yes-really-and-more/


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 18:14:24


    Post by: AndrewGPaul


     kendoka wrote:
    Brienne of Tarth as a Custodes?


    Looks more like Trump to me. Maybe it's the hair.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 18:24:44


    Post by: Arbitrator


     AndrewGPaul wrote:
     kendoka wrote:
    Brienne of Tarth as a Custodes?


    Looks more like Trump to me. Maybe it's the hair.


    John C. Reilly


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 18:36:42


    Post by: Alpharius


     BrookM wrote:
    Huh, that's more or less the same as when Dan did the Voxcast. Really looking forward to it, looks like it won't be done by the next BL day in February, as I had hoped.


    I hope we finally learn who “Alpharius” is (other then Alpharius, of course) - he is someone quite recognizable, after all...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 18:53:21


    Post by: BrookM


     Alpharius wrote:
     BrookM wrote:
    Huh, that's more or less the same as when Dan did the Voxcast. Really looking forward to it, looks like it won't be done by the next BL day in February, as I had hoped.


    I hope we finally learn who “Alpharius” is (other then Alpharius, of course) - he is someone quite recognizable, after all...
    Yeah and I still don't like that point of the previous novel, it felt so shoe horned in.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 20:01:29


    Post by: JWBS


    Double Meh on those minis.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 20:43:15


    Post by: Tiberias


     Irbis wrote:

    His head is clownishly big, 4 heads to body is proportions of 3 year old. I thought they can't top Kidbaddon, but they just did

    I really hope he comes with a helmet. Pretty please?

    Sister is nice, but it's the pose you can build from box already, and why she replaced half of her armour with gimp suit?


    My god who sculped Valerian?! This is just horrible. I hope there is a helmet option....

    Aleya looks fine.

    Edit: also his misericordia hangs by his freaking knee....the hell is this?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 21:03:50


    Post by: Cataphract


    *Brian Blessed Voice*

    Kage is Alive?!?!


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 21:11:22


    Post by: Nicky J


    did they happen to mention if they are resin or plastic?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 21:38:23


    Post by: Mr Morden


     Nicky J wrote:
    did they happen to mention if they are resin or plastic?

    They confirmed they are plastic


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 21:46:24


    Post by: Irbis


     Nicky J wrote:
    did they happen to mention if they are resin or plastic?

    With 95% certainty plastic. Forge World """quality""" sculpting would never manage to do that thin laurels, sword, cape, pteruges, or even base, 10 year old plastic techniques are somehow too hard for them

    That, and it's GW painting style, with real, bright and shiny gold look, not the dirty, fluff-breaking, tarnished brass look FW smears their custodes with to make them as ugly as possible, again pointing to plastics...


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 22:17:23


    Post by: BrookM


    Cataphract wrote:
    *Brian Blessed Voice*

    Kage is Alive?!?!
    My thoughts as well.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 22:40:18


    Post by: H.B.M.C.


    I like the Sister. The Custodes is awful. Who thought the giant head was a good idea?

    How do you purchase these (when they come out, that is)?

     Irbis wrote:
    Sister is nice, but it's the pose you can build from box already, and why she replaced half of her armour with gimp suit?
    You can't do that exact post.



    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 22:45:36


    Post by: Overread


     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    I like the Sister. The Custodes is awful. Who thought the giant head was a good idea?

    How do you purchase these (when they come out, that is)?




    If I recall right they come out online, in shops and at the Black Library event next year. I think it happens in February sometime. Basically I think they are a few days deal to get hold of, but as they are sold through the GW store you can pick them up without having to attend the event itself.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/10 23:17:22


    Post by: Chikout


    The problem is the hair. In a bored moment I did some measurements and everything except the hair is exactly in scale with the previous warden kit. The width of the head is exactly the same, and the distance from eye to chin is the same. It's just the distance from the hairline to the top of the head that is different.
    The hair makes the mini 6 heads tall whereas the bare headed warden is 7 heads tall.

    In other news the aos novel Lady of Sorrows is by Clint Werner not Josh Reynolds.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 08:27:45


    Post by: phillv85


     Overread wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    I like the Sister. The Custodes is awful. Who thought the giant head was a good idea?

    How do you purchase these (when they come out, that is)?




    If I recall right they come out online, in shops and at the Black Library event next year. I think it happens in February sometime. Basically I think they are a few days deal to get hold of, but as they are sold through the GW store you can pick them up without having to attend the event itself.


    The Black Library models hang around longer. They usually sell out early on, but then get remade and stay in stock. Last time I checked (not long ago) you could still get Eisenhorn and Severina Raine.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 08:39:18


    Post by: queen_annes_revenge


    Looks like draco malfoy


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 09:34:13


    Post by: BrianDavion


    phillv85 wrote:
     Overread wrote:
     H.B.M.C. wrote:
    I like the Sister. The Custodes is awful. Who thought the giant head was a good idea?

    How do you purchase these (when they come out, that is)?




    If I recall right they come out online, in shops and at the Black Library event next year. I think it happens in February sometime. Basically I think they are a few days deal to get hold of, but as they are sold through the GW store you can pick them up without having to attend the event itself.


    The Black Library models hang around longer. They usually sell out early on, but then get remade and stay in stock. Last time I checked (not long ago) you could still get Eisenhorn and Severina Raine.


    I was looking at the IG HQ section literally an hour ago and Raine is still there.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 09:41:01


    Post by: Chopstick


    Look dull compared to Marbo, Raine, and Gotrek, Without the base or the hair it'll be hard to spot them on the table.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 11:22:51


    Post by: Kdash


    I like the SoS model, though I’m not sure on why the breastplate is black compared to the rest of the armour. Can just paint it differently, so no worries…

    As for the Custodes model… It just looks fat and bloated to me in various parts of the model. Maybe it’s just the angle, but it looks like he has a massive head and a pot belly. Didn’t notice the stupidly placed dagger at first glance either, and as for the laurels…. Why?

    Maybe all this needs is a head swap from the Custodes Guard box or something, along with not attaching it the laurels, and we’re good to go.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 12:51:30


    Post by: ImAGeek


    Kdash wrote:
    I like the SoS model, though I’m not sure on why the breastplate is black compared to the rest of the armour. Can just paint it differently, so no worries…

    As for the Custodes model… It just looks fat and bloated to me in various parts of the model. Maybe it’s just the angle, but it looks like he has a massive head and a pot belly. Didn’t notice the stupidly placed dagger at first glance either, and as for the laurels…. Why?

    Maybe all this needs is a head swap from the Custodes Guard box or something, along with not attaching it the laurels, and we’re good to go.


    At that point you can just build him from the Custodes box anyway.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 13:53:43


    Post by: Overread


    I don't suppose anyone attended the BL event and heard anything about future Gotrek and Felix publications coming up? I know that Trollslayer is coming back soon for another reprint in hardback (though beyond the cover and story do we know if it contains anything else within it?).

    However with the 4th omnibus now released are there any plans we are aware of for a 5th combining the End Times stories? Or even future ones beyond that which might add up some of the stand alone stories that they've got.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/11 15:29:00


    Post by: Yodhrin


     Overread wrote:
    I don't suppose anyone attended the BL event and heard anything about future Gotrek and Felix publications coming up? I know that Trollslayer is coming back soon for another reprint in hardback (though beyond the cover and story do we know if it contains anything else within it?).

    However with the 4th omnibus now released are there any plans we are aware of for a 5th combining the End Times stories? Or even future ones beyond that which might add up some of the stand alone stories that they've got.


    I don't know if you've read them or not, but if you've not I'll say that you're not missing much.

    The "kinda Mordheim" one was terrible. I've not read Road of Skulls but people who's opinion on fiction I trust have said it's also garbo(same author as the previous...). The End Times stories are A; set in the End Times and B; contain some stuff that I thought was just...awful guff.

    Serpent Queen is the only one of the remaining non-omnibused books that was worth reading IMO, and even then it's only on par with the lesser Long novels.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/13 10:15:44


    Post by: reds8n


    https://www.trackofwords.com/2019/11/13/the-black-library-weekender-2019-roundup/#more-12724

    excellent -- as usual -- write up of the weekender, useful info about maps etc etc too.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 08:47:30


    Post by: Looky Likey


    So they do the right thing with the SoT book but muck up with the map and allow scalpers to buy up to five maps when only fifty available at the weekender. Honestly seems intentional now as a lot of the limited editions do not sell out.

    I like that BL are branching into more different labels for books as it should help give the books a different story telling framework to operate in.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 15:46:04


    Post by: Overread


    Just got an email to confirm that my Reprints of Inferno are in the post and on their way! Which is blazingly fast compared to the last two times that GW has done this.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 16:59:46


    Post by: BrookM


    Does anybody know the retail price of the Sabbat's Crusade book by any chance?

    And nice re: Inferno! reprint. Nothing on my end yet, but hopefully soon, would be nice to have these in hand before 2020.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 17:00:10


    Post by: ImAGeek


     BrookM wrote:
    Does anybody know the retail price of the Sabbat's Crusade book by any chance?

    And nice re: Inferno! reprint. Nothing on my end yet, but hopefully soon, would be nice to have these in hand before 2020.


    £40, apparently.
    Edit: from the Track of Words write up above.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 18:01:59


    Post by: Yodhrin


    Do we know when plebs can expect to be able to order the book & map?


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/14 19:32:32


    Post by: phillv85


     Yodhrin wrote:
    Do we know when plebs can expect to be able to order the book & map?


    "Some time in December" according to the Black Library Weekender write up posted above. That's the most only thing I've seen on it so far.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/16 10:42:28


    Post by: Dimrill


    Grr. Logged in to the GW site at 9:45 and refreshed every 30 seconds from 9:56 to 10:00 when preorders went live for The First Wall. Added to basket, checkout, logged in to PayPal and it just hung when returning from the PayPal site. 35 minutes of "down for maintenance" messages and suddenly pops back up no "no longer available online"... Looks like I'm out of the Limited Edition game for the rest of the series then. Good luck to all the scalpers already flogging it on eBay.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/16 10:55:39


    Post by: Xanthos


     Dimrill wrote:
    Grr. Logged in to the GW site at 9:45 and refreshed every 30 seconds from 9:56 to 10:00 when preorders went live for The First Wall. Added to basket, checkout, logged in to PayPal and it just hung when returning from the PayPal site. 35 minutes of "down for maintenance" messages and suddenly pops back up no "no longer available online"... Looks like I'm out of the Limited Edition game for the rest of the series then. Good luck to all the scalpers already flogging it on eBay.


    Same for me. Disappointing to say the very darn least! I actually ended up sending them an email, stating my disappointment. Not that I expect it to accomplish anything, but I felt a need to communicate the way I felt about this hideous release method... I'm out of the race as well.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/16 11:07:03


    Post by: Looky Likey


    There were still copy's available at 10:10 (as I forgot) as I put my order through, normally sells out quicker than that. I put my order in the the limited edition of Mark of Faith afterwards and that payment hang, had to retry three times before it went through properly.

    If you can prove it mucked up they might sell you a copy of you complain enough as they keep some back for orders lost in the post or misprints.


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/16 11:10:36


    Post by: Xanthos


     Looky Likey wrote:
    There were still copy's available at 10:10 (as I forgot) as I put my order through, normally sells out quicker than that. I put my order in the the limited edition of Mark of Faith afterwards and that payment hang, had to retry three times before it went through properly.

    If you can prove it mucked up they might sell you a copy of you complain enough as they keep some back for orders lost in the post or misprints.


    It actually died three times for me, had it in my cart thrice! :-(
    I have screenshots of everything and sent them along with my email. But as said, I expect nothing to come of it. :-/


    Black Library News & Rumour thread. Annotated Eisenhorn: Malleus. p.135. @ 2019/11/16 14:19:50


    Post by: Knockagh


    I was lucky enough to get one although the site felt like it was about to crash right through the sale