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Post by: ChiliPowderKeg
So nothing new's been here since May...
When is this thread going to pass the mantle to a new one in the N&R section with some newer evidence/rules/reliable sources etc.?
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Post by: Anvildude
Anpu-adom wrote:How awesome would it be to play a game where the only restriction of the list is that you have to use the full FOC? That would be a heck of a game to see.
Something in the area of 4800 points of necrons teleporting around the board... it would be great.
Would that, would that actually balance out?
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Post by: Anpu-adom
ChiliPowderKeg wrote:So nothing new's been here since May...
When is this thread going to pass the mantle to a new one in the N&R section with some newer evidence/rules/reliable sources etc.?
When Necrons appear on the back page of the White Dwarf.
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Post by: peebzguy
More juicy rumors from Bell of Lost Souls http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necrons-awaken-scarabs.html. I for one like the notion of Scarab swarms washing over the enemy and melting them in place, because that's essentially what these rumors indicate. Huge swarms just corroding the most hardened Imperium alloys and Spare Marine armor over time and through sheer swarms. If this is true I will certainly be incorporating large swarms of Scarabs into my Necron army. Love this.
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Post by: wyomingfox
For the lazy 
BOLS Bigred wrote:Updated Necron Background
Necrons have now fully awakened. All previously encountered Necrons were "bugs" in the reawakening program and were under the sway of the two rogue C'tan. Now fully awakened, the Necrons are ready for their advancing story arc in the codex. That said, they are effectively "Space Tomb King" with strong parallels in both unit back story and visual appearance linking them to that Warhammer Fantasy army book.
Updated Scarabs
Fast Attack choice. Three models in base unit at 45 pts, with up to seven more at 15 pts per model. Fearless, Swarms, Beast, Entropic Strike. Fout attacks on the charge with 3+ cover save in terrain (which they ignore for movement purposes - like Harlequins) . Entropic Strike is a new rules accessable to several units in the codex. Against infantry on to-wound rolls of 4+, armor saves are ignored (Invulnerables allowed). Against vehicles on armor penetration rolls, each die that rolls a 4+, reduces the vehicle's armor by 1 pt on ALL sides for the rest of the game. Vehicles are destroyed when any of its armor values reach 0.
So for 15 pts, they get rippers with a 24" threat range that aren't slowed by difficult terrain, gawd-like rending in CC, and they don't eat themselves.  .
*looks at Hive Fleet Masochist*
Maybe I should repaint them in an olive tone.
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Post by: samrtk
I hope those Scarab rumours are true, they seem to be returning to their original purpose. Now that the Necrons are fully awakened, we should be getting a nice juicy unit selection like the Dark Eldar codex.
"Rogue C'tan" I don't like the sounds of that, I hope they are still the overlords they are set as in what fluff we already have.
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Post by: Iggyrocksall
I dont no whether to be terrified or horrified! My friend is playing necrons next :(
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Post by: peebzguy
Iggyrocksall wrote:I dont no whether to be terrified or horrified! My friend is playing necrons next :(
I've technically been playing Necrons since the codex came out in 3rd ed. so I will have no shame when I buy up all the new juicy, OP models 
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Post by: Ledabot
Oh no, Tau armor fails again in cc. goodbye firewarriors.
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Post by: KingDeath
Oh great...Space Tombkings...
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Post by: Sabet
i love the sound of those scarabs, generally i use them for vehicle hunting, but now, there even better
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Post by: terranarc
Awakened Necrons? Moving the story forward? Giving the middle finger to all previous Necron authors? Written by Matt Ward?
Oh god here comes the trainwreck codex called Necronz.
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Post by: Emperors Faithful
I like this.
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Post by: Ctan_Overlord
Copied from BoLS:
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Necron "rumours" I guess is as good a place to put this
In the BL book PAth of the Seer, out this weekend theres a flashback memory of a battle against the Necrons
Gold coloured warriors, Flayed ones, Destroyers and Scarabs are mentioned, but not by name
Also there are smaller monoliths that act only as gun turrets, and a quote;
Quote:
"One of the suns was setting and in the dimming light the pyramid changed. Another section of the gleaming metal slid away to reveal an immense hanger like space. From the darkness emerged a terrifying apparition, glowing with green energy. it looked like a cross between a building and a warrior, a huge construct with a dozen heads and batteries of weapons set about a complex, ever-shifting geometric core.
The necrontyr war machine loomed over the battlefield, sheathed in a baleful glow that warded away the blasts of bright lances and scatter lasers. An orb at its centre spun faster and faster, crackling with energy that crawled along arcane circuitary to the blisters of the weapons turrets.
With a blinding flash, green lightning arced down upon the eldar army, shredding tanks and aspect warriors in a barrage of pyrotecnic destruction. Whole squads were vaporised. Falcons exploded or were sheared into small pieces"
I can't think of anything matching the description in the current Nec book. Now I know BL books aren't the best place to go for rumours....but could be something?
It also mentioned Scarabs destroying Jetbikes and Tanks, by climbing onto them and self destructing in large numbers
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Dont know about you but that quote sounds very much like the Necromancer, seeing as it was rumored to have a crystal core and to use heat weapons, both of which are mentioned in that quote, if so it sounds awesome
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Post by: warpgrenade
Ctan_Overlord wrote:Copied from BoLS:
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Necron "rumours" I guess is as good a place to put this
In the BL book PAth of the Seer, out this weekend theres a flashback memory of a battle against the Necrons
Gold coloured warriors, Flayed ones, Destroyers and Scarabs are mentioned, but not by name
Also there are smaller monoliths that act only as gun turrets, and a quote;
Quote:
"One of the suns was setting and in the dimming light the pyramid changed. Another section of the gleaming metal slid away to reveal an immense hanger like space. From the darkness emerged a terrifying apparition, glowing with green energy. it looked like a cross between a building and a warrior, a huge construct with a dozen heads and batteries of weapons set about a complex, ever-shifting geometric core.
The necrontyr war machine loomed over the battlefield, sheathed in a baleful glow that warded away the blasts of bright lances and scatter lasers. An orb at its centre spun faster and faster, crackling with energy that crawled along arcane circuitary to the blisters of the weapons turrets.
With a blinding flash, green lightning arced down upon the eldar army, shredding tanks and aspect warriors in a barrage of pyrotecnic destruction. Whole squads were vaporised. Falcons exploded or were sheared into small pieces"
I can't think of anything matching the description in the current Nec book. Now I know BL books aren't the best place to go for rumours....but could be something?
It also mentioned Scarabs destroying Jetbikes and Tanks, by climbing onto them and self destructing in large numbers
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Dont know about you but that quote sounds very much like the Necromancer, seeing as it was rumored to have a crystal core and to use heat weapons, both of which are mentioned in that quote, if so it sounds awesome
i wonder if its a necro apoc weapon.
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Post by: terranarc
Sounds like a necrobliterator.
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Post by: Harriticus
If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.
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Post by: terranarc
Harriticus wrote:If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.
Oh so you're already pissed.
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Post by: Harriticus
terranarc wrote:Harriticus wrote:If they're not mindless autonomotans (except perhaps Necron Lords having a mild sense of identity) and aren't under the control of the C'tan, I will be majorly pissed.
Oh so you're already pissed.
Pretty much. A cold, dark army of silent machines with not even an ounce of empathy under the control of demented Star Vampires out to harvest all life is a much cooler concept then what the rumors are suggesting.
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Post by: Ascalam
Nothing stopping you from running yours that way.
If i was to run Grey Knights, for example, my fluff would be old-school Puritan grey knights, not the batcrap crazy Radical poseurs they are now 
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Post by: terranarc
Ascalam wrote:Nothing stopping you from running yours that way.
If i was to run Grey Knights, for example, my fluff would be old-school Puritan grey knights, not the batcrap crazy Radical poseurs they are now
Ha, GKs and their "And They Shall Know Fear But Be Able To Control It Well" rule is so silly. There was a time when GK's were the fearless, skilled monolithic challengers of chaos everywhere without the need of towering baby carrier poorly designed mech. Oh ward, I hope you get syphilis from Gav Thorpe.
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Post by: Isengard
I hear that GWs in britain have been ordered to return all unsold Necrons by the end of September. make of that what you will...
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Post by: Brother SRM
Isengard wrote:I hear that GWs in britain have been ordered to return all unsold Necrons by the end of September. make of that what you will...
From who/where?
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Post by: Isengard
Probably should be quite coy on this, with the way GW are now it could get someone in the ****!
Just put it this way it was not made up and came from a very reliable source.
My understanding is Ogres for WHFB in September and Necrons in october. Ogres are really doing the rounds so this seems quite convincing.
The October date is based on the supposition that Necrons are next to come out for 40K and Ogres are definitely coming out next.
Staffers at my local GW are happy to speculate that necrons are next up but are not told specifically in advance. GW has gone to announcing 2 weeks in advance with no leaks in advance of that (or heads roll/jobs are forfeit!)
Note: Necron codex is no longer available through GW website, again make of that what you will!
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It is worth noting, of course, that with GW's current policy of disinformation and hard crack-down on leaks all that I hear could be so much BS, or the person could think they know what they know and be subject to the same GW disinformation. I know for certain that the codex is written and the new miniatures are done, but when the actual release will be is still anyone's guess. However, I tend to trust the information I have as it came from a good source, but could still be incorrect!
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Post by: peebzguy
Isengard wrote:Probably should be quite coy on this, with the way GW are now it could get someone in the ****!
Just put it this way it was not made up and came from a very reliable source.
My understanding is Ogres for WHFB in September and Necrons in october. Ogres are really doing the rounds so this seems quite convincing.
The October date is based on the supposition that Necrons are next to come out for 40K and Ogres are definitely coming out next.
Staffers at my local GW are happy to speculate that necrons are next up but are not told specifically in advance. GW has gone to announcing 2 weeks in advance with no leaks in advance of that (or heads roll/jobs are forfeit!)
Note: Necron codex is no longer available through GW website, again make of that what you will!
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It is worth noting, of course, that with GW's current policy of disinformation and hard crack-down on leaks all that I hear could be so much BS, or the person could think they know what they know and be subject to the same GW disinformation. I know for certain that the codex is written and the new miniatures are done, but when the actual release will be is still anyone's guess. However, I tend to trust the information I have as it came from a good source, but could still be incorrect!
My excitement factor just shot way up. Then again, I could have just been massively trolled.
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Post by: Isengard
Nope, I am just trying to be honest and put in the necessary disclaimers! It is getting much harder to get info out of GW at the moment as they have clamped down on leakers and generally tightened up their security. I don't know exactly why but the rumours are less secure now than they might be. Personally I think the Necrons are imminent but, as I say I could be proved wrong and my sources could be wrong. Hold the excitement but also be prepared as it cannot be long.
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Apologies all, haven't made many posts and still getting the right style, not trying to lead anyone on a wild goose chase on this one, just reporting what I was told that I have to reason to feel is pretty reliable.
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Post by: Isengard
Further update. GWs are now unable to order in any Necrons except the battleforce, all the rest are no longer being delivered. Stocks being run down?
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Change that to GWs are not having any other stock delivered (they usually get certain core units for every army every week so long as they sell the stock. GW are only sending out battleforces centrally now. There is still some stock of other Necrons which can be ordered direct from GW or via stores, but it is not being sent as a matter of course.
Heard that the ogres pics doing the rounds were only sent to a handful of GW staff. Somebody leaked them and they are being sought with a will to sack them.
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Post by: Ctan_Overlord
Isengard wrote:Further update. GWs are now unable to order in any Necrons except the battleforce, all the rest are no longer being delivered. Stocks being run down?
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Change that to GWs are not having any other stock delivered (they usually get certain core units for every army every week so long as they sell the stock. GW are only sending out battleforces centrally now. There is still some stock of other Necrons which can be ordered direct from GW or via stores, but it is not being sent as a matter of course.
Heard that the ogres pics doing the rounds were only sent to a handful of GW staff. Somebody leaked them and they are being sought with a will to sack them.
Thats interesting ( and very devious of GW ) I guess that means we may see a reduction in leaks from now on if that is true, either way, hopefully this months WD may give us some clues and or a confirmation that Necrons are coming in October.
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Post by: Isengard
Heard also that GW's newsletter gives some hints linking Necrons to Bonfire Night - 5th November for the non-Brits. Again, though nothing conclusive, but it is certainly and definitely imminent, a matter ofweeks with any luck for our Necron friends!
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WD this month to feature Ogres muchly as that is the about-to-occur release.
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Post by: samrtk
Isengard wrote:Heard also that GW's newsletter gives some hints linking Necrons to Bonfire Night - 5th November for the non-Brits. Again, though nothing conclusive, but it is certainly and definitely imminent, a matter ofweeks with any luck for our Necron friends!
I will remember that 5th of November.
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Post by: Ascalam
I got this in a PM, and was asked to pass it along, so here you go. I'll stress that these aren't MY rumors (i have no GW sources  ) but they seem to tie in to the other rumors pretty well:
" Hi, I've noticed you on YMDC previously, and that you are a fellow tinhead. I was hoping you'd do me a favor.
It just so happens that I have advance information on both a tiny pinch of rules and a tiny pinch of fluff for Necrons. Because my source is very close to GW and distinguishable, I'd prefer to have someone that I definitely don't know divulge this information to the net for me, so as to protect my source's confidentiality. Feel free to post this as idle speculation if you want, but I am so confident in my source that I believe parts of what I am about to tell you to be 100% true.
First, starting with fluff, comes the revelation that Necrons are much more self-aware than previously thought. They have risen up and enslaved the C'tan (100% on this). Look for C'tan to be customizable and take up a heavy support slot, similar to Daemon Princes (This part is me speculating).
Second, Scarabs are going to be extremely good. They will be among the best, if not the best unit in the game when it comes to destroying tanks. They also will have the ability to increase armor saves, similar to the Ork Choppas of old (100% on this).
You officially heard this from a guy that talked to a guy that read the codex, but he may have been British or American, you can't be sure. Discretion is the better part of valor.
Thanks,
A guy that talked to a guy "
Salt to taste. 
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Post by: wyomingfox
Sounds very similar to Yakface's rumors
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Post by: peebzguy
I'm going on vacation and coming back when the Codex: Necrons is out. I can't take anymore of this awesomesauce for the time being, it's too tasty...
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Post by: samrtk
*sigh* Enslaved C'tan? Exterminates all the fluff that got me into Necrons...Strike one GW...Strike one. Matt Ward...I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said...
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Post by: tetrisphreak
I am dying for a competitive codex. My three armies are Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I'm dying to go on a winning streak! Damn my love for stylized armies rather than the FotM marines that are dominating local tournaments!
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Post by: omerakk
As far as the C'tan being enslaved, part of the recent fluff rumors mentioned something about "the necron incursion up until now were isolated incidents caused by rogue c'tan, and now the necrons are awakening in force"
That statement about "rogue c'tan"... almost makes you wonder if the void dragon is about to wake up? That would make the deceiver and nightbringer getting enslaved seem slightly more doable.
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Post by: Red Comet
Well if those rumors are true about the changes in the necron codex then things have changed drastically. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but it sounds interesting to say the least.
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Post by: Anvildude
Personally, I've always loved the Tomb Kings, but disliked the Necrons (ironically, I love the Orks, but dislike the Greenskins). This might actually make Necrons more interesting for me.
Not gonna start a new army, of course.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Anvildude wrote:Personally, I've always loved the Tomb Kings, but disliked the Necrons (ironically, I love the Orks, but dislike the Greenskins). This might actually make Necrons more interesting for me.
Not gonna start a new army, of course.
While I am sure there is nothing wrong with the Tomb Kings, completely rewriting a faction to more resemble its Fantasy counterpart is a jerkface move on GW's part.
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Post by: Fuegan
I wanna see GW go out of business and have to sell their IP. At least then 40k will stand a chance, maybe Privateer Press will buy them and we can have a decent game and hobby again.
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Post by: Anpu-adom
Fuegan wrote:I wanna see GW go out of business and have to sell their IP. At least then 40k will stand a chance, maybe Privateer Press will buy them and we can have a decent game and hobby again.
I would like to see Fantasy Flight take over the rules development for 40k. GW is a great model making company, but a meh rules making company.
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Post by: bean007
Great. November is toO far!
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Post by: tiekwando
to break away from the current tone, I am actually really happy with these rumors. Also i am hoping/guessing? that the enslaved c'tan are some of the ones we have not heard about yet, and that the rogue c'tan are the nightbringer, deceiver etc.
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Post by: NecronLord3
To me the rumors sound like the best of both worlds. If you still want to field NB or the Deceiver, you still will be able to. If you want a custom C'tan or one that is enslaved, you'll have that option as well. But either way it will not be taking up an HQ slot and IMO, that is good for everyone. Fluff is fluff and is meant to be open to different interpretations. It is an intentional part of the 40kuniverse which leaves the creative department open to doing different things and allows players to set up any battle and make it plausible with the fluff.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
tiekwando wrote:to break away from the current tone, I am actually really happy with these rumors. Also i am hoping/guessing? that the enslaved c'tan are some of the ones we have not heard about yet, and that the rogue c'tan are the nightbringer, deceiver etc.
The Nightbringer and Deceiver having to run and hide like little girls from their former Necron slaves is pretty cool.
I'm being sarcastic, by the way.
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Post by: AustonT
C'tan are now the Necrons slaves. Apparently that fist bump with Dante initiated a revolt. /rollseyes. Hopefully the fluff is decent, the models look good, and the rules are strong. That way in 2021 we can have the same argument again.
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Post by: davethepak
tetrisphreak wrote:I am dying for a competitive codex. My three armies are Tyranids, Tau, and Necrons. I'm dying to go on a winning streak! Damn my love for stylized armies rather than the FotM marines that are dominating local tournaments!
Now THIS made me laugh.
I play;
Tau, Tyranids and Necons.
I even took my Tau to a recent large con, and was the ONLY tau player there.
I was strongly considering my necrons, but they are not fully painted...
I am VERY excited about the new codex...I will just be somewhat disappointed if they radically change the fluff, as to be honest, it was what convinced me to play them.
I also hope they do not dramatically change...I mean, whats the possibility of a new dex really just being an upgrade?
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Post by: peebzguy
Updated rumors from Bell of Lost Souls http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/08/40k-rumors-necron-monolith-edition.html Straight rip from BoLS The Basics
Everyone's favorite lunchbox of doom is said to cost roughly 200pts, and keep its current 14/14/14 Armor all round. It is a Skimmer, Tank that can Deepstrike as usual. The Monolith can fire all its weapons regardless of movement. Its Living Metal (in its new form) remains.
The Guns
In big news, the four corner mounted Gauss Flux Arcs remain, but are said to each be able to split fire and nail separate targets in some manner. The top mounted Ring Pop is now a standard ordinance weapon without all the fiddly rules.
The Glowy Door!!!
But by far, the biggest change is said to be the glowy door, now renamed The Eternal Gate - which now has a nasty offensive ability. The Gate can make all models within 3" take a Strength characteristic test - or risk being sucked into the gate and removed from play with no saves of any kind allowed.
I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.
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Post by: samrtk
peebzguy wrote:I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.
When getting assaulted? Objective holding? That would be quite a nice intimidating rule, a much needed assault deterent for Necrons.
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Post by: peebzguy
samrtk wrote:peebzguy wrote:I personally think The Eternal Gate is not likely going to make it into the Codex. It's a good fluffy rule, but it's utterly useless unless you deep strike the Monolith right on top of an enemy squad and use it.
When getting assaulted? Objective holding? That would be quite a nice intimidating rule, a much needed assault deterent for Necrons.
True. If I thought for more than 15 seconds about it then I might have come up with that
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Post by: Anvildude
And it'll open up all sorts of new nicknames for army builds!
The Hoover of Doom, to fight the Leafblower. 3 Monoliths creepin' up the table, suckin' up everything in their path! Don't vehicles or models without a Strength stat auto-fail tests?
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Post by: peebzguy
Anvildude wrote:And it'll open up all sorts of new nicknames for army builds!
The Hoover of Doom, to fight the Leafblower. 3 Monoliths creepin' up the table, suckin' up everything in their path! Don't vehicles or models without a Strength stat auto-fail tests?
Legit LOL from me, I let out the biggest belly laugh for Hoover of Doom... that was great.
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Post by: Anvildude
See, Vacuum of Doom rhymes better, but with Hoover you get that doubledouble 'o' in there, so it reads better. double 'o's are funny.
Though Vacuum of Duum is amusing, it also looks stupid.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
 Enslaved C'Tan??!! GRRR! That made me RAGE!!!!! Necrons, by the fluff of the codex we have at the mo are enslaved BY the C'Tan, not the other way round! And they weren't meant to have any self-awarence, save the immortals and lords... Still, I suppose I could ignore it that bit of the fluff and make my own, unless GW creates some rule to go along with this... I hope our 'friend' Ward ACTUALLY gets told to stop messing up our beloved 40K races. BA was ok GK, I can live with, EDIT: SoB, getting to close for comfort... 'crons, RRRRRRAAAAAGGGGEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! Please don't get bad fluff please? 
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Post by: peebzguy
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Enslaved C'Tan??!!
GRRR!
That made me RAGE!!!!!
Necrons, by the fluff of the codex we have at the mo are enslaved BY the C'Tan, not the other way round!
And they weren't meant to have any self-awarence, save the immortals and lords...
Still, I suppose I could ignore it that bit of the fluff and make my own, unless GW creates some rule to go along with this...
I hope our 'friend' Ward ACTUALLY gets told to stop messing up our beloved 40K races.
BA was ok
GK, I can live with,
EDIT: SoB, getting to close for comfort...
'crons, RRRRRRAAAAAGGGGEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Please don't get bad fluff
please?
I was a bit on edge about it myself for a period of time, but now I actually feel the Necrons could use a bit more character. Make em' a bit more sinister, not just evil mindless killing automatons.
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Post by: Brother SRM
It's not like they can make Necrons blander. Any fluff is welcome, because even if it's hilariously bad it's still interesting. There's nothing worse than boring fluff. I have pretty decent hopes for them though.
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Post by: samrtk
I'd rather they didn't sacrifice ALL current fluff to make it more interesting. That original fluff was one of the factors that sold me on Necrons, they were different, different from Tomb Kings. Now the C'tan are just going to be some Necro/Warsphinx equiv.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
peebzguy wrote:I was a bit on edge about it myself for a period of time, but now I actually feel the Necrons could use a bit more character. Make em' a bit more sinister, not just evil mindless killing automatons.
Only the current fluff didn't need to be thrown away to do that.
The Necron Lords and Immortals always had personalities, as did Flayed Ones and Pariahs.
Now, the Necron codex did not emphasize that enough, admittedly, so that getting more emphasis would be welcome.
But the current fluff didn't have to be completely retconned, as the rumors indicate.
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Post by: Isengard
The original release sequence I heard sounded like rubbish to me and I dismissed it, it went as follows:
September - Ogres
October - new, unmentioned fantasy naval game
November - Necrons
I laughed this off as I could not believe that GW would begin a new specialist game like that with no trailing or buzz, especially given that it wasn't so long ago that they scaled right back on non core games.
Anyhoo the new issue of WD has a cryptic advert about a wanted man and the captain of the Heldenhammer. Well blow me down this is a clear advert for a new fantasy naval game. I stand entirely corrected.
I am now 100% certain that Necrons will be in November. As always I may be wrong but the source I heard got the other three spot on, months ago, and it ties with what I am hearing elsewhere.
Hope it's correct but the usual health warnings apply!
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
yakface wrote:
There is also a new weapon type called Tesla weapons
I find this a bit ridiculous, considering how "Tesla" is essentially the same as Gauss; they are both units of Magnetic flux density. Tesla is SI and gauss is CgS.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
CthuluIsSpy wrote:yakface wrote:
There is also a new weapon type called Tesla weapons
I find this a bit ridiculous, considering how "Tesla" is essentially the same as Gauss; they are both units of Magnetic flux density. Tesla is SI and gauss is CgS.
Nomenclature aside, I am excited at the idea of a 'torrent of fire' type army. The Dark Eldar get poison across-the-board, it would be cool for necrons to get a set-strength weapon (even at s3) that commonly gets more hits than shots fired. It would set them apart in the current set of armies, and give them something useful and unique (but still gameplay-balanced).
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Post by: Pyriel-
Second, Scarabs are going to be extremely good. They will be among the best, if not the best unit in the game when it comes to destroying tanks.
Hope this is true, meta game needs somehting to discourage all those boring razorspam and chimera wall lists.
To bad it doesnt affect skimmers but hopefully somehting else will be made to down dark eldar bananaboats in drowes to encourage people to build more varied and fun lists and thus shift power meta.
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Post by: yevix
The whole necron enslaved the c'tan kinda makes sense, just imagine all those lords waking up to find that their empire is a bunch of mindless robots, you would be pissed at the c'tan for lying to you and since they are not as strong as they use to be I can easily see a whole army of necrons taking one c'tan down.
come on people fluff changes keep up with the times, I love the fact that 40k fluff can grow and change..
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Post by: Void__Dragon
yevix wrote:The whole necron enslaved the c'tan kinda makes sense, just imagine all those lords waking up to find that their empire is a bunch of mindless robots, you would be pissed at the c'tan for lying to you and since they are not as strong as they use to be I can easily see a whole army of necrons taking one c'tan down.
come on people fluff changes keep up with the times, I love the fact that 40k fluff can grow and change..
Necron Lords submitted to the process willingly, and have had their free will since they first became Necrons, they knew their empire was now mindless robots.
It's not a good change.
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Post by: omerakk
Like I said, the only way I agree with this change is if the void dragon is waking up and that's what heralds in the awakening of all necron forces everywhere, and even gives the lords back their sentience.
How do you turn a god into a slave? By pissing off a stronger god.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
omerakk wrote:Like I said, the only way I agree with this change is if the void dragon is waking up and that's what heralds in the awakening of all necron forces everywhere, and even gives the lords back their sentience.
How do you turn a god into a slave? By pissing off a stronger god.
But what of the Adeptus Mechanicus on Mars?
And also, will we get a better version of Power of the Machine Spirit? Since, after all, the machine spirit *is* the Void Dragon?
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Post by: peebzguy
omerakk wrote:Like I said, the only way I agree with this change is if the void dragon is waking up and that's what heralds in the awakening of all necron forces everywhere, and even gives the lords back their sentience.
How do you turn a god into a slave? By pissing off a stronger god.
That's some serious Matt Ward logic being applied there, I like it. Void Dragon = named character?
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Post by: omerakk
peebzguy wrote:omerakk wrote:Like I said, the only way I agree with this change is if the void dragon is waking up and that's what heralds in the awakening of all necron forces everywhere, and even gives the lords back their sentience.
How do you turn a god into a slave? By pissing off a stronger god.
That's some serious Matt Ward logic being applied there, I like it. Void Dragon = named character?
Oh hellllll no! That would be like making The Emperor a named, playable character. Some things should exist in fluff only, not the game.
But what of the Adeptus Mechanicus on Mars?
And also, will we get a better version of Power of the Machine Spirit? Since, after all, the machine spirit *is* the Void Dragon?
The Adeptus is screwed. Nope, no more PoTmS because the machine spirit is gone. The imperium just took a huge hit and power downgrade; the end of mankind is at hand.
Not going to happen of course, but I still think it would make for an interesting idea
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Post by: Anpu-adom
omerakk wrote:peebzguy wrote:
And also, will we get a better version of Power of the Machine Spirit? Since, after all, the machine spirit *is* the Void Dragon?
The Adeptus is screwed. Nope, no more PoTmS because the machine spirit is gone. The imperium just took a huge hit and power downgrade; the end of mankind is at hand.
Not going to happen of course, but I still think it would make for an interesting idea
Well, current fluff indicates that all of the C'tan expect NB, Deceiver, Void Dragon and The Outsider consumed each other. If the rumors of Night Bringer and Deceiver being labelled "rouge' are true, it could mean that either the Void Dragon or The Outsider woke up. Void Dragon would cause serious problems for humanity... The Outsider is more likely in my book, so that the menace can grow and the tentative connections to 'Nid fleets can be explored.
What if the Void Dragon wasn't enslaved... and the Outsider and Void Dragon have an epic face-off using the mortal races as pawns. I can see a campeign where it's 'Nids and Necrons racing to Mars, and the swath of humanity trying to prevent them from getting there.
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Post by: Pyriel-
Oh hellllll no! That would be like making The Emperor a named, playable character. Some things should exist in fluff only, not the game.
Nah, the Emperor as a playable character would just be a shard of his full power with customisable powers as upgrades for points 
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Post by: Tagboard Wizard
::Shudder:: I can see the cheese calling now...
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Post by: yevix
Void__Dragon wrote:yevix wrote:The whole necron enslaved the c'tan kinda makes sense, just imagine all those lords waking up to find that their empire is a bunch of mindless robots, you would be pissed at the c'tan for lying to you and since they are not as strong as they use to be I can easily see a whole army of necrons taking one c'tan down.
come on people fluff changes keep up with the times, I love the fact that 40k fluff can grow and change..
Necron Lords submitted to the process willingly, and have had their free will since they first became Necrons, they knew their empire was now mindless robots.
It's not a good change.
Sure but the c'tan also promised that when they awake the universe will be theirs, that claim fell through as well - and that the necron lords could simply have said "you need us more then we need you" its not like the c'tan can shut down the necrotyr at their whim - they need the necrotyr to feed them.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
yevix wrote:Void__Dragon wrote:Sure but the c'tan also promised that when they awake the universe will be theirs
Where?
They are the slave, not the master. The Deceiver lied (Ohohoho), which became apparent very early on.
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Post by: headrattle
The necrons are (for the most part) mindless automotons. They became mindless automotons because the C'Tan tricked them into it in their persuit of immortality. Making the C'Tan slaves or servents takes all of that away, and makes them significantly less interesting. It would be like saying that the Nomb Kings are slaves of the undead skeletons.
I am ok with the C'Tan being avatars instead of the actual C'Tan, that would make sense. What doesn't make any sense is the idea that the C'Tan are slaves. It doesn't make any sense. At all. The Necrons are the servents of the star gods. Anything less is lame.
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Post by: Vhalyar
headrattle wrote:The necrons are (for the most part) mindless automotons. They became mindless automotons because the C'Tan tricked them into it in their persuit of immortality. Making the C'Tan slaves or servents takes all of that away, and makes them significantly less interesting. It would be like saying that the Nomb Kings are slaves of the undead skeletons.
I am ok with the C'Tan being avatars instead of the actual C'Tan, that would make sense. What doesn't make any sense is the idea that the C'Tan are slaves. It doesn't make any sense. At all. The Necrons are the servents of the star gods. Anything less is lame.
Fall of Damnos pretty much spells out that anything with an Immortal-and-better body is sentient.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
feth Fall of Damnos.
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Post by: Coolyo294
It's a horrible book.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Pyriel- wrote:Oh hellllll no! That would be like making The Emperor a named, playable character. Some things should exist in fluff only, not the game.
Nah, the Emperor as a playable character would just be a shard of his full power with customisable powers as upgrades for points
You could buy the Emperor's left leg, right leg, left arm, right arm, body and head, and only after assembling all 6 could you put together Emperor: The Forbidden One and instantly win the game.
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Post by: Void__Dragon
Brother SRM wrote:You could buy the Emperor's left leg, right leg, left arm, right arm, body and head, and only after assembling all 6 could you put together Emperor: The Forbidden One and instantly win the game.
Hm.
Okay I kind of laughed.
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Post by: headrattle
Fall of Damnos pretty much spells out that anything with an Immortal-and-better body is sentient.
Which is why I used the quantifier "for the most part." Yes, the lords are sentient. In fact the fluff states that all of the necrons were sentient. But over time and because of the repeated repairs they lost their identity and became mindless.
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Post by: Ascalam
more that they degraded than went entirely mindless.
A lot of them went bat-crap insane, if we go by FOD. Then again we also have Monoliths being totalled with meltabombs and Lords going down faster than drunken prom dates..
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Post by: headrattle
Exaaaaactly. Which is why Fall of Damnos isn't all that great. I am pretty sure that in the codex fluff it talks of them losing their identity over the eons.
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Post by: Anpu-adom
A lot of the earlier personality rumors stem from interpreting Fall of Damnos. If the newer fluff rumors are true, I can see Fall of Damnos being retconned away (they are followers of rogue C'Tan, etc).
Once again, Rogue C'tan doesn't mean that the Necrons are the masters, it just means that there is someone more powerful in play now. The "C'Tan as slaves" idea largely came out of moving the C'tan from the HQ slot to an Elite slot. There is kookiness there that won't be explained until the Codex hits the shelves, but I doubt that it'll be the slave thing that people expect.
Though, I'm waiting for Forge World C'tan models for Apoc. games.... delicious.
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Post by: DarknessEternal
headrattle wrote:The necrons are (for the most part) mindless automotons.
Necrons have never been presented as mindless; just singular of purpose. There's a world of difference.
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Post by: Kroothawk
BoLS posted this http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2011/09/40k-rumors-necron-unit-rundowns.html :
Some tidbits that have been making the rounds through the tubes of late on various Necron units:
HQ
- @7 named HQ models with 2-3 basic HQ choices.
TROOPS-Immortals: 5 models for @90 pts, up to 5 more may be added.
-Warriors: 5 models for @60 pts, up to 15 more may be added. 4+ save.
FAST ATTACK
-Wraiths: @40 pts apiece, Rending.
-Destroyers: @40 pts apiece. Preferred Enemy (all), Jump Infantry. Gauss Cannons can upgrade to Heavy Gauss Cannon now.
ELITES
-Death ????: A sniper unit that can cause non-traditional effects on target units.
-Tomb Spyders: Roughly the same as now, with increased regeneration effects on nearby Necrons.
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Post by: wyomingfox
@ Kroot,
I got to ask: is Big Red a rumors compiler like yourself or is he a rumor mounger like Harry? I have never seen him list any sources on his BOLS posts, which would be what I would expect from a rumor compiler. Yet his introductory statements always seems like he his pointing to the internet as the source of his rumors rather than through personal undisclosed sources?
Still, my favorite was his statement at the end:
BigRed wrote:~Standard caveats apply to all of this, but we are starting to get a little close now. I would expect something Necron to be unveiled later this month at Gamesday UK. You know how Games Workshop loves a nice unveiling...You can follow the current Necron rumors here.
Yes, we all know GW attitude towards unveiling upcoming products...
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Post by: Anpu-adom
Destroyers get 'Preferred Enemy'... I'm new to 40k, but Preferred Enemy allows rerolls in CC only.
If true, that's an odd choice for a unit that is primarily used at range.
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Post by: FalkorsRaiders
Anpu-adom wrote:Destroyers get 'Preferred Enemy'... I'm new to 40k, but Preferred Enemy allows rerolls in CC only.
If true, that's an odd choice for a unit that is primarily used at range.
You don't use your Destroyers for melee? For shame.
With that sarcasm out of the way, I agree with you. The last time I sent in my Destroyers for melee and they came out victorious was against a 5-man Gretchin squad, and I lost 1 of the 5 in the process. All this means is I will be able to roll that 1 guy who managed to live because of bad rolls on the enemy's part. Seriously, that is useless on them, but if they are better at cc, then maybe not...
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Post by: NecronLord3
Actually it makes allot of sense for when they get into an assault it provides them a better chance of surviving the combat or at least matching wounds to prevent those negative leadership effects that cause the Sweeping advance. I would also expect to see some rules for the Destroyers that let them get out of combat, such as hit and run, so it may not make sense on the existing Destroyer it very well could make allot more sense once we've seen the new Codex. Also there is 6th edition to consider. Will preferred enemy stay the same?
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Post by: redkeyboard
Str 9 Ap1 large blast looks way to powerful insta kill all troops and most elites and hq's and can hit multiple targets and if it is a blast weapon how can it have a bs4 skill.
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Post by: Ascalam
Um.. looked at a Vindicator lately, dude?
S 10, AP 2 with BS 4, and dirt cheap. BA ones are fast also.
Also take a gander at the IG codex (BS 3 i grant you) for templatey goodness. ANYTHING short of D strength pieplates from Necrons in regular play is going to be topped by the IG in either number or plates or power.
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Post by: Kroothawk
wyomingfox wrote:@ Kroot,
I got to ask: is Big Red a rumors compiler like yourself or is he a rumor mounger like Harry? I have never seen him list any sources on his BOLS posts, which would be what I would expect from a rumor compiler. Yet his introductory statements always seems like he his pointing to the internet as the source of his rumors rather than through personal undisclosed sources?
He is a rumour compiler not stating his sources and sometimes misquoting. BoLS is famous for reposting stuff, mostly from Warseer. Only a few times they have some original source. This here seems to have new bits though.
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Post by: Isengard
Think I'm gonna be proved right, Necrons in November after the silly naval game!
Reckon the little 'slip' today on the OS when the new painter says something isn't going to paint itself and they 'censor' it will be saying necrons.
Games Day reveal is the strong, strong rumour with the release in November.
The long wai for you necron guys is nearly at an end and I might escape the accusation of being a troll!
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I am getting a totally random and unsupported by anything other than my own gut feeling that 6th ed will be very soon, perhaps shockingly soon, a sudden appearance with no trailing. Eldar and Tau to be the first codices for the new ed? As I say just a hunch and not a rumour or anything like that I am not trying to troll anyone!
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Post by: Red Corsair
I agree that it "feels" like sixth is around the corner.... Don't be shocked if vehicles get hosed again and TLOS goes the way of the dodo....
Back on topic I am excited for the Necrons, if the trend continues (Tyranids<DE<GK....<Necrons???) Then they will be extremely strong and in demand, too bad they missed Ard boyz this year...
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Post by: DarknessEternal
Red Corsair wrote:Don't be shocked if vehicles get hosed again
That would be shocking. If a "standard" army these days is including 6+ vehicles, that's 6+ vehicle kits sold. They are miniatures company way more than a game company.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Isengard wrote:Reckon the little 'slip' today on the OS when the new painter says something isn't going to paint itself and they 'censor' it will be saying necrons.
Games Day reveal is the strong, strong rumour with the release in November.
The long wai for you necron guys is nearly at an end and I might escape the accusation of being a troll!
Link me to this, I must know what you're talking about.
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Post by: Anpu-adom
So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Anpu-adom wrote:So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
I'd speed it up to a Oct. 22 release, possibly even earlier.
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Post by: FalkorsRaiders
I think Nov. 5th would be a great day to bring out the Necrons. Remember, remember, the 5th of November.
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Post by: Molten Butter
I have some Necron models that I still need to paint, so this is great news for me.
I never liked the C'tan that much anyway. They're integral to the Necron's background pre-great sleep, but now they're very unwieldy for the fluff.
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Post by: Anpu-adom
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Anpu-adom wrote:So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
I'd speed it up to a Oct. 22 release, possibly even earlier.
You really think that they'd push them out earlier? The first wave of plastics are likely in production and so are the finecast blisters. The book has quite probably been at the printers for weeks now, but you think that they would miss the chance to do pre-order two days before Halloween?
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Post by: Isengard
I hear that GW's current in-house newsletter is hinting at Necrons for Bonfire Night (5th November) and that is the gossip. It's symbolic, but it would be great to be out sooner. I won't be buying them but I will look forward to fighting them!
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Post by: Kevin949
Isengard wrote:Think I'm gonna be proved right, Necrons in November after the silly naval game!
Reckon the little 'slip' today on the OS when the new painter says something isn't going to paint itself and they 'censor' it will be saying necrons.
Games Day reveal is the strong, strong rumour with the release in November.
The long wai for you necron guys is nearly at an end and I might escape the accusation of being a troll!
Automatically Appended Next Post:
I am getting a totally random and unsupported by anything other than my own gut feeling that 6th ed will be very soon, perhaps shockingly soon, a sudden appearance with no trailing. Eldar and Tau to be the first codices for the new ed? As I say just a hunch and not a rumour or anything like that I am not trying to troll anyone!
Indeed you were right so far, with the email just sent out by GW about their naval game last night.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Well, the guys at my flgs(gw) know NOTHING about it, yet
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Post by: Kevin949
Matt.Kingsley wrote:Well, the guys at my flgs(gw) know NOTHING about it, yet
Of course they don't.
Protip = Either they don't get told anything or they just aren't going to tell you. Take your pick.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
I didn't ask them, they were talking amongst themselves about when I walked by...
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Anpu-adom wrote:KilroyKiljoy wrote:Anpu-adom wrote:So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
I'd speed it up to a Oct. 22 release, possibly even earlier.
You really think that they'd push them out earlier? The first wave of plastics are likely in production and so are the finecast blisters. The book has quite probably been at the printers for weeks now, but you think that they would miss the chance to do pre-order two days before Halloween?
Absolutely. The way I understand it, once it is announced, the pre-orders will go up. In other words, pre-orders are starting right after they announce it at Games Day UK, on the 25th. And then having a full wait for a month of pre-orders would be kinda ridiculous, but GW-like, so at latest, it'd probably be the 22nd, possibly even earlier.
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Post by: Kevin949
Matt.Kingsley wrote:I didn't ask them, they were talking amongst themselves about when I walked by...
I hear ya, which is I why I stated both possible situations. It's just amusing that this "denial of information" on GW's part is laughable and still full of holes because their own (corporate) employees disagree with corporate big-wigs and still get the info out to the players. The store employee's just don't hear about it because I doubt many of them actually search beyond their internal email/notification system.
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Post by: Anpu-adom
More Necrons disappear from the GW online store. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/listProducts.jsp?catId=cat440174a
Gone are:
The Lord with Orb
Immortals
Pariahs
WARRIORS ?!?!?!?!
Wraiths
Destroyers
Monoliths ????
Still available (for now):
Battleforce
Destroyer Lord
Lord with Warscythe
Flayed Ones
Scarabs Swarm
Tomb Spyder
Heavy Destroyer
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Post by: omerakk
Sounds normal to me. The usual repackaging that goes on before a new codex
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Post by: FalkorsRaiders
I can't even order flayed ones or tomb spyders on the site. honestly, should have taken down those two as well GW online store.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
5 DAYS TIL THE UNVEIL. GET PUMPED.
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Post by: -Loki-
Anpu-adom wrote:So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
Black Boxes don't exist anymore, so that can be scrubbed from the timetable.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
-Loki- wrote:Anpu-adom wrote:So we are possibly looking at a time table like this:
Sept. 25th Games Day UK
Oct. 8th Arrival of 'Black boxes'
Oct. 29th Preorder
Nov. 5th Release?
Black Boxes don't exist anymore, so that can be scrubbed from the timetable.
So pretty much, at latest, we're looking at late October release?
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Post by: Kevin949
Didn't someone say a while ago that there was some statement of "after the eve of the ghosts, the dead will rise." or something like that?
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Post by: CoI
That could be the new naval game. The main antagonists are Undead.
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Post by: Dave-c
redkeyboard wrote:Str 9 Ap1 large blast looks way to powerful insta kill all troops and most elites and hq's and can hit multiple targets and if it is a blast weapon how can it have a bs4 skill.
Ummmmm, but space marines have one better, a vindicator. Str 10 large blast ap 2, and dirt cheap, with BS4. I don't know what the complaint here is...
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Post by: Ascalam
Mentioned that at the top of the page
He's probably complaining that xenos get somethuing like that, instead of it being humans-only..
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Post by: FalkorsRaiders
No news of Necrons at GD:UK. Disappointing if you ask me, but we still have WD and GD:OZ, so who knows? literally, who knows if Necrons will be there....
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Post by: Darkjediben
No Necrons makes Ben a Saaaaaad panda.
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Tension...
killing...
me!
Oh well, only one more month...
hopefully...
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Post by: Herr Dexter
Just bought october's issue of White Dwarf :(
Not a single word about them 'Crons :(
DerpFleet all over the issue.
Very, very sad :(
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Post by: tallerguy
Sucks, Nothing at UK Games Day either.
Waiting......
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Post by: NecronLord3
Well just did a routine check of the USA GW website and certain units are totally missing from their store. No warriors, no C'Tan, no Immortals, or Pariahs... could be glitchy but it maybe something.
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Post by: Ascalam
Old news. They've been gone for a bit now..
It does seem to indicate that they might be next up, and soon, though
It's not like GW to take down 'sellable' product until right before the release of the new ones.
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Post by: Cyrax
If GW doesn't release the new necron codex soon, I'm gonna write my own codex with booze and blackjack, infact forget the codex!
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Post by: Dave-c
Man come on GW, I WANT TO BE HYPED UP!!!! Not knowing anything simply frustrates me and makes me not want to buy! I could be deciding what to save up for right now, and with not knowing what is coming i have no reason to save and won't have any cash on hand to buy, so minus sales from me guys...
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Post by: Isengard
Guys calm down. I was a bit confused myself but then I realised the big reveal was Dreadfleet (looks pretty rubbish but that's another issue). At the moment GW are being incredibly careful and deliberate not to overshadow one release with another. Keep calm until after the release of Dreadfleet and then we'll see. It will be soon! Next release 100% certain!
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Post by: NecronLord3
Ascalam wrote:Old news. They've been gone for a bit now..
It does seem to indicate that they might be next up, and soon, though
It's not like GW to take down 'sellable' product until right before the release of the new ones.
Actually it is new. Before they were listed but simply unavailable. Now they are actually gone!
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Post by: Isengard
Said it before and I'll say it again the information I received months ago (which I dismissed as total BS) was:
September - Ogres
October - unnamed fantasy naval game (which I dismissed as highly unlikely, but hey ho!)
November - Necrons
Keep in there!
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Post by: Ascalam
NecronLord3 wrote:Ascalam wrote:Old news. They've been gone for a bit now..
It does seem to indicate that they might be next up, and soon, though
It's not like GW to take down 'sellable' product until right before the release of the new ones.
Actually it is new. Before they were listed but simply unavailable. Now they are actually gone!
Actually they've been simply gone for about a week
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Post by: WarlordRob117
I predict a whats new today post on friday consisting of similar transmistion crap (like that of the Grey Knights stuff)... followed by several staff having there skin flayed off... and the usual jargon... followed by a solid release mid-to late October... true halloween style... dont know if they have halloween in england but... well there it is... dont be hatin'
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Post by: crudcakes
Is there no one who is dreading this?
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Post by: l0k1
I'm at least hopeful. The suspense is a little dulled for me cuz I'm too busy trying to build/paint more grey knights. When the new codex is released I'll be able to decide whether or not to play necrons again, play nids again it start Orks as my secondary army that will go into a large scale apocalypse army.
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Post by: Ascalam
I'm bordering on the apathetic.
I was excited for news on GDUK. Jack-squat. Hell, the Squats got more press time
Now i'm starting to lose interest in the rerelease, though not quite to the point of selling my crons just yet..
It's almost to the point that no matter what they release, it'll feel like a letdown, though we can hope
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Post by: Molten Butter
crudcakes wrote:Is there no one who is dreading this?
Why? At the very worse, we get terrible fluff and Necrons still suck, which isn't that much worse than now. At best, we get acceptable fluff and Necrons are fun and playable.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Ascalam wrote:I'm bordering on the apathetic.
I was excited for news on GDUK. Jack-squat. Hell, the Squats got more press time
Now i'm starting to lose interest in the rerelease, though not quite to the point of selling my crons just yet..
It's almost to the point that no matter what they release, it'll feel like a letdown, though we can hope
QFT. I was sooo hyped for GDUK. And then, nothing. I cried myself to sleep.
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Post by: L0rdF1end
I've heard from a good source that Necrons will be out 1st week of November. And we should see a mention of them in the next White Dwarf.
Fingers crossed.
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Post by: peebzguy
L0rdF1end wrote:I've heard from a good source that Necrons will be out 1st week of November. And we should see a mention of them in the next White Dwarf.
Fingers crossed.
Name your source please.
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Post by: Kurgash
peebzguy wrote:L0rdF1end wrote:I've heard from a good source that Necrons will be out 1st week of November. And we should see a mention of them in the next White Dwarf.
Fingers crossed.
Name your source please.
Ever hear of deepthroat? Sources are never named for fear of repercussions. Just take from it what you will but many are chattering that November's first week will see the true masters of the galaxy rise again.
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Post by: marmaduke
so i have been following this thread for a bit and i am just curious how likely is it that there will be necron codex in November? 1
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Post by: WarlordRob117
marmaduke wrote:so i have been following this thread for a bit and i am just curious how likely is it that there will be necron codex in November? 1
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On ThE bAcKs oF VoId WhAlEs ThEy ShAll RiDe
AlL HaIl ThE C'TaN...
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yay!!!! lets hope this vision is correct and they arent talking about some slowed space pirate 40K version of dreadfleet LMAO
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Post by: AlmightyWalrus
Kurgash wrote:peebzguy wrote:L0rdF1end wrote:I've heard from a good source that Necrons will be out 1st week of November. And we should see a mention of them in the next White Dwarf.
Fingers crossed.
Name your source please.
Ever hear of deepthroat? Sources are never named for fear of repercussions. Just take from it what you will but many are chattering that November's first week will see the true masters of the galaxy rise again.
What? Codex: Old Ones is coming? WHEN?!
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Post by: WarlordRob117
I will have to check out page 54 of the BT codex walrus.
Codex old ones... mmmmm... creation cannon: Strength X (Always wounds on a 2; Always a Pen Hit) AP1 (just because) Apocalypse large balst template, with flamer templates spreading in all directions, Melta, Lance, Ordnance...
this is the basic infrantry weapon akin to bolter... oh and they're all BS 10 and WS 10 hahahahaha
hows that for cheese?
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Post by: Anvildude
The only problem is that the points cost is a quarter of your sanity and the soul of your first born child.
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Post by: Ktulhut
Not to mention, if you play them against eldar or orks you auto win as the enemy army recognises its gods and surrenders.
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Post by: WarlordRob117
Anvildude wrote:The only problem is that the points cost is a quarter of your sanity and the soul of your first born child.
Ktulhut wrote:Not to mention, if you play them against eldar or orks you auto win as the enemy army recognises its gods and surrenders.
Hey if you guys are interested lets just start writing the codex now before GW steals our cheese lol...
Has anyone noticed anymore stuff missing from necrons page on GW's site? other than whats already been taken?
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Post by: Ktulhut
Actually, I just remembered something. When the TK were coming out, I was chatting to the manager about making necrons out of sepulchral stalkers, and he told me to "just wait..."
Not that managers tend to be reputable sources of rumor but he is pretty high up in the australasian gw heirarchy, and said the same thing about six months before DE when I was looking at raiders. I'm thinking he just knows what he needs to regarding promotion and stock/shelf stuff, but he's been with the company for over 25 years and is pretty high up the food chain for someone who runs a store.
So, salt it, etc. I know its nothing huge or even reliable but I find it encouraging.
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Post by: WarlordRob117
Ktulhut wrote:Actually, I just remembered something. When the TK were coming out, I was chatting to the manager about making necrons out of sepulchral stalkers, and he told me to "just wait..."
Not that managers tend to be reputable sources of rumor but he is pretty high up in the australasian gw heirarchy, and said the same thing about six months before DE when I was looking at raiders. I'm thinking he just knows what he needs to regarding promotion and stock/shelf stuff, but he's been with the company for over 25 years and is pretty high up the food chain for someone who runs a store.
So, salt it, etc. I know its nothing huge or even reliable but I find it encouraging.
this is what I like to hear...
Thank you majestic one for dispensing some yumminess upon our ears... you are awesome...
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Post by: Iur_tae_mont
If we were placing bet on the release date, I would put five down on first week of December.
Reasons, None at all!
Nah, December seems more realistic to me because it's closer to the Holidays, which may yield more sales.
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Post by: WarlordRob117
Iur_tae_mont wrote:If we were placing bet on the release date, I would put five down on first week of December.
Reasons, None at all!
Nah, December seems more realistic to me because it's closer to the Holidays, which may yield more sales.
I thought December/January was there month off recuperate from the rediculous amount orders we just filled months? As in no releases of any kind aside from small blisters...
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Post by: smithmyster666
Ascalam wrote:NecronLord3 wrote:Ascalam wrote:Old news. They've been gone for a bit now..
It does seem to indicate that they might be next up, and soon, though
It's not like GW to take down 'sellable' product until right before the release of the new ones.
Actually it is new. Before they were listed but simply unavailable. Now they are actually gone!
Actually they've been simply gone for about a week
*cough* grey knights *cough* sisters *cough*
are we forgetting that their boxed sets disappeared around 12 months before the GK got their codex?
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Post by: Herr Dexter
Just looked at Necron subpage on WH40k Armies at http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440255a&rootCatGameStyle=
We all remember how most units dissappeared from there rescently. Now it looks like all models are back up on the site. Even more of them even.
Seeing "Necron Lord with Warscythe" and that 'ol cheesy 2ed Necron Lord with Staff brought back into HQ from Collectable section... meybe they are finally selling out remains before announcing new codex / minis?
Toughts?
EDIT:
Old Codex still missing.
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Post by: peebzguy
So this little development pretty much flies in the face of all the rumors thus far. Now we can't even assume the release is imminent, since this is why we were making that assumption in the first place (with regards to the store going out of stock). So, maybe Necrons are 12 months away now? I has a sad 
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Ktulhut wrote:Actually, I just remembered something. When the TK were coming out, I was chatting to the manager about making necrons out of sepulchral stalkers, and he told me to "just wait..."
Not that managers tend to be reputable sources of rumor but he is pretty high up in the australasian gw heirarchy, and said the same thing about six months before DE when I was looking at raiders. I'm thinking he just knows what he needs to regarding promotion and stock/shelf stuff, but he's been with the company for over 25 years and is pretty high up the food chain for someone who runs a store.
So, salt it, etc. I know its nothing huge or even reliable but I find it encouraging.
Go to him, bribe him, and get more info pl0x.
peebzguy wrote:So this little development pretty much flies in the face of all the rumors thus far. Now we can't even assume the release is imminent, since this is why we were making that assumption in the first place (with regards to the store going out of stock). So, maybe Necrons are 12 months away now? I has a sad
Actually, I find it even more encouraging that the update will be coming even sooner. To me, it means they've decided to keep the old designs for almost everything (for now), and just focus on working on the newer ones. Either that, or they know we're on to them, and are trying to throw us off :p
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Post by: peebzguy
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Actually, I find it even more encouraging that the update will be coming even sooner. To me, it means they've decided to keep the old designs for almost everything (for now), and just focus on working on the newer ones. Either that, or they know we're on to them, and are trying to throw us off :p
 Games Workshop infuriates me!
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Post by: marmaduke
i case anyone has not noticed necrons have al but returned to the website and there is a new one.. i think here is the link
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440174a&prodId=prod1130422&rootCatGameStyle=
anyway still cant get codex online so that might me a good sign
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Uhh......you realize everyone above you were already talking about it, right?
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Post by: peebzguy
KilroyKiljoy wrote:
Uhh......you realize everyone above you were already talking about it, right?
made me lol
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Post by: Ascalam
The 'new' Necron is a very very old one from back in the day
I have one that i'm thinking about doing conversions on someday..
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Post by: samrtk
They probably just put everything back up to quell any rumours, y'know cause they're so deathly afraid of people on the internet talking and NO, not leaks *gasp* :O
Point is, I'm still hopeful.
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Post by: Ascalam
I'm starting to care less and less.
I think i'm going back into hibernate mode, like the last time the necron rumors started flying, and came to nothing.
They'll be along eventually, then i might consider waking up
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Post by: Herr Dexter
Same. It better not be a damn WD release :]
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Post by: marmaduke
lol
well we can only really watch and wait
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Post by: FlammingGaunt
Herr Dexter wrote:
Same. It better not be a damn WD release :]
I can see it now, wait where does it say he can do that? um under his entry let me just find it............(hours laters) aha hear it is! ummm guys? guys? wake up!
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Post by: Cryage
Dexter, I want to thank you personally for making me smile on this terrible week (work has been awful, so I needed to smile lol).
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
That will be me in two months.
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Post by: Herr Dexter
Good to hear that Cryage
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Post by: Ktulhut
KilroyKiljoy wrote:Ktulhut wrote:Actually, I just remembered something. When the TK were coming out, I was chatting to the manager about making necrons out of sepulchral stalkers, and he told me to "just wait..."
Not that managers tend to be reputable sources of rumor but he is pretty high up in the australasian gw heirarchy, and said the same thing about six months before DE when I was looking at raiders. I'm thinking he just knows what he needs to regarding promotion and stock/shelf stuff, but he's been with the company for over 25 years and is pretty high up the food chain for someone who runs a store.
So, salt it, etc. I know its nothing huge or even reliable but I find it encouraging.
Go to him, bribe him, and get more info pl0x.
peebzguy wrote:So this little development pretty much flies in the face of all the rumors thus far. Now we can't even assume the release is imminent, since this is why we were making that assumption in the first place (with regards to the store going out of stock). So, maybe Necrons are 12 months away now? I has a sad
Actually, I find it even more encouraging that the update will be coming even sooner. To me, it means they've decided to keep the old designs for almost everything (for now), and just focus on working on the newer ones. Either that, or they know we're on to them, and are trying to throw us off :p
I'll try. I know he likes fine ales. Also I'm playing combat patrol with a different staffer today so I'll definitely be asking questions but I doubt the redshirt knows anything.
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Post by: l0k1
They could have put everything back up due to the current rumors that GW will be delaying or holding their releases until the suit against ChapterHouse is worked out. Don't mean to be a wet blanket, but that possibility occurred to me.
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Post by: Brother SRM
I never think of GW as being "with it" enough to check forums for rumors on their own product, but it's a possibility.
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Post by: NecronLord3
The suit with chapterhouse could effect the Necrons release but at the very least it will only mean that they will be realeased only when all the models are ready to roll out. As of right now it appears that if they give us rules for units but fail to release models for them, legally another company can swoop in and under cut GW by making substitute models for those units. Some of the give-me models that we knew were going to be replaced may have been set up to be put back out in favor of producing models for new units they didn't plan on rolling out right away. Also the models in production again could also be an indication of the other rumor we have been hearing, that of the discontinuation of Finecast. No Necron models got the finecast treatment and if they are canning that line it would make sense to bring back the metal models for necessary Necron units.
Flayed ones are still unavailable just pictured.
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Post by: PraetorDave
Thanks Yak for the new info! Awesome to actually see news in this thread.
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Post by: NecronLord3
You mean the news from May?
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
NecronLord3 wrote:You mean the news from May?
I think he means that we should stop spreading rumors in a rumor thread. Which makes no sense.
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Post by: NecronLord3
And it's in the general discussion section now so there's that.
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Post by: Legend
I have it on very good authority that the new codex for necrons is not just hard backed but metel backed and will also be £30 FFS
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Post by: Brother SRM
Legend wrote:I have it on very good authority that the new codex for necrons is not just hard backed but metel backed and will also be £30 FFS
And I have it on very good authority that this version of the codex will have a cover made from the melted down pewter of all the now-Finecast minis, and contain an IOU for one codex inside.
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Post by: King Pariah
Brother SRM wrote:Legend wrote:I have it on very good authority that the new codex for necrons is not just hard backed but metel backed and will also be £30 FFS
And I have it on very good authority that this version of the codex will have a cover made from the melted down pewter of all the now-Finecast minis, and contain an IOU for one codex inside.
And I have it on good authority that this metal clad codex will count as heavy support used in the case of losing the battle to knock out your opponent and "harvest" his army.
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
King Pariah wrote:Brother SRM wrote:Legend wrote:I have it on very good authority that the new codex for necrons is not just hard backed but metel backed and will also be £30 FFS
And I have it on very good authority that this version of the codex will have a cover made from the melted down pewter of all the now-Finecast minis, and contain an IOU for one codex inside.
And I have it on good authority that this metal clad codex will count as heavy support used in the case of losing the battle to knock out your opponent and "harvest" his army.
Better than a Socknought
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Post by: Herr Dexter
This rumor just surfaced on HeresyOnline:
confirmed by my local GWS store, cant say who or they might face legal action lol, necrons annouced 22nd october - 29 october including november white dwarf, released/pre-order after that 5th november onwards.
followed by:
So glad someone else said it first. Although they only know because some prat inside GW leaked some info out about it.
And not like the GK codex "leak".
(Source)
Fingers x-ed, I guess...
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Post by: Matt.Kingsley
Hopefully...
...Downloading file 'RedHarvest.exe'...
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Post by: Son_Of _Deddog
There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..
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Post by: Just Dave
Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..
For those wondering, this is the model in question:
It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.
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Post by: Son_Of _Deddog
Fair do's....
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Post by: GamzaTheChaos
I won't get excited over this news. But I can hope
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Post by: Sunoccard
Just Dave wrote:Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..
For those wondering, this is the model in question:
It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.
I really hope that doesn't become a transport, it looks hideous, I don;t want to be playing Space Tomb Kings, I want to be playing NECRONS.
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Post by: Ascalam
It would need a rework to attract me, but the frame is ok.
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Post by: Cerebrium
That model has been around for ages. It's based on a really old piece of Necron concept art.
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Post by: Son_Of _Deddog
I've seen the art-just not the model. I don't think the paint job does it any favours...
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Sunoccard wrote:Just Dave wrote:Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..
For those wondering, this is the model in question:
It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.
I really hope that doesn't become a transport, it looks hideous, I don;t want to be playing Space Tomb Kings, I want to be playing NECRONS.
That does not look like a necron vehicle. Necron vehicles look like floating pieces of old architecture, not fugly boats.
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Post by: NecronLord3
It's an old conversion. Nothing new here.
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Post by: fursphere
Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?
Teleportation man! We don't need transports!
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Post by: Ascalam
I think the going theory at one point was a flying gate, like a lith portal.
Other rumors point to skiffs like the DE have, but better armoured and slower.
We'll find out eventually, and then proceed to whine about how we wanted it another way, as usual
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Post by: KilroyKiljoy
Ascalam wrote:I think the going theory at one point was a flying gate, like a lith portal.
Other rumors point to skiffs like the DE have, but better armoured and slower.
We'll find out eventually, and then proceed to whine about how we wanted it another way, as usual
I'd say yes if this was any other Army, but this is Necrons. here will be more overabundance of joy than usual, and the whining will not commence until much later.
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Post by: Ascalam
That is one perk of not having an update for a decade.. You might well be right
Much the same with the DE. The whining (from those actually playing them) was relatively low. Those facing the new and improved DE were making up the shortfall though
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Post by: Isengard
Brother SRM wrote:I never think of GW as being "with it" enough to check forums for rumors on their own product, but it's a possibility.
Apparently they have a small dedicated team whose job is to sweep the web and check for anything they don't like (infringements of their IP, sites selling in ways they dislike, etc, etc). What an easy job! Supposedly some others are paid to just play their games, such as Warhammer online continuously to see how they work out.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
fursphere wrote:Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?
Teleportation man! We don't need transports!
Agreed. I actually made some proposed rules for it.
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Post by: Sanon
What's to get excited over?
Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-
Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.
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Post by: Just Dave
Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?
Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-
Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.
(if it's true)
Welcome to Games Workshop. Please leave your money and fortitude at the door before entering...
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Post by: Vermillion
Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?
Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-
Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.
Yes, we've been saying this for about a decade and a half.
On topic I'm gutted. If the rumours are true got necrons, and then Eldar and DA in whichever order. Guess I am choosing one and my metal warriors that actually look threatening are staying stowed away for a bit.
Hoping the rumours are right and I'll buy some in 6th ed IF their codex is still viable. I remember what you did with DA GW!!!!
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Post by: Sanon
Just Dave wrote:Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?
Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-
Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.
(if it's true)
Welcome to Games Workshop. Please leave your money and fortitude at the door before entering...
Meh, I already decided not to touch GW when each time I decided I'd start, made an army list, and saw that 1/3 of my purchases or more were going to transports.
Was holding on to hope that the Necrons wouldn't be like this though, since I love anything with an Egyptian theme. I'm currently awaiting Tau to either A. Become a melee heavy force with transports, or B. Get boosted extras for being ranged in transports.
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Post by: Kevin949
Herr Dexter wrote:Just looked at Necron subpage on WH40k Armies at http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440255a&rootCatGameStyle=
We all remember how most units dissappeared from there rescently. Now it looks like all models are back up on the site. Even more of them even.
Seeing "Necron Lord with Warscythe" and that 'ol cheesy 2ed Necron Lord with Staff brought back into HQ from Collectable section... meybe they are finally selling out remains before announcing new codex / minis?
Toughts?
EDIT:
Old Codex still missing.
If you look closely you'll notice that many of the models are not available to "add to cart" however.
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Post by: FalkorsRaiders
fursphere wrote:Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?
Teleportation man! We don't need transports!
You don't like transports? Everyone likes transports. That's why all the other armies have them. You know what? You don't want transports, you don't get transports. now you get to "teleport", which is the new word for walking, since now necrons can't walk. or shoot. or assault. You know what, why even bother with necrons. Let's update space marines again. at least they appreciate transports.
I agree, the necrons shouldn't use transports, but should teleport. I personally won't use transports, even if they have front, back, and side armor of 15, can hold 20 models, shoot 20 S 10 AP 1 shots a turn and cost 1 point a piece. okay, i'd use those, just never have my necrons in them.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
So probably wish listing on my part but who else is hoping necrons get universal resistance to poison, making it all wound on 5+? Fits the fluff as they are fleshless and metal, plus it spits in tyranid breakfast as well as venom spam de.
Again wishlisting, but it would be awesome.
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Post by: wyomingfox
For you...I would prefer it better if not all 5th edition codices had an easy button when it came to beating nids.
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Post by: tetrisphreak
wyomingfox wrote:For you...I would prefer it better if not all 5th edition codices had an easy button when it came to beating nids.
To quote my favorite Villain in an animated movie, Syndrome: "When everyone's super, no one will be!"
Codex creep sucks while waiting for your own personal brand. Once everyone is up to snuff and at the same power level, the enjoyment of the game will be that much greater. Look at warmachine/hordes -- Every unit has some awesome cool power or statline, but nobody calls cheese because their armies have just as much awesomesauce as the others. 40K needs that. Since we won't get a universal update to every codex at once, I just say take it as it comes and hope for the best.
btw i have over 10,000 points of nids and got screwed royally with the 5th ed codex...as did many other nid players. some people are able to play competitively but it seems that in my meta, my bugs just don't stand a chance
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Post by: NecronLord3
A new rumor via Blood of Kittens, could be a game changer:
http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/10/12/network-news-the-necron-rumor-you-need-to-know-and-more/
Over the last few months many have noticed rumors surrounding GW releases have been to reduced to a slow drip, instead now get the ludicrous rumors and speculation. At BoK we often hold on to many rumors that sound too implausible in the hopes of scrying the world for verification, this has led us to keep one particular Necron rumor sealed because of possible game breaking power. With the new Necrons seemly a few weeks (because one manager of a random GW store couldn’t be talking out of his ass) from rebirth I think it is time to let this one out of carbonite. It needs notation that this rumor comes in two versions that could end up conflicting with one another, so here is both so the Internet can decide.
Ok, babbling over on to the rumor…
Rumor has it that a new Necron shooting attack can cause large swaths of your opponents army in a new interesting way. How it works is simple…
Necron Shoots Unit
Necron Hits Unit
Necron player allocates where the wound will be (how this is worded I have no idea)
All identical models to the one just shot are now hit
Roll to wound all models that are identical
Make armor saves were applicable
Here is an example. I shoot Necron weapon at a squad of Long Fangs. I hit and chose my wound to be rolled on a Missile Launcher Long Fang. All Missile Launcher Long Fangs IN THE ENTIRE ARMY are now hit. Now think take this a step further. What if I shoot a Ork Boy?
Here is the other way this weapon could work.
Necron Shoots Unit
Necron Hits Unit
Even though I only hit once I roll to wound every model in that unit.
Opponent makes armor saves where applicable
Now this doesn’t sound as scary as the first example, but it is basically GK Cleansing Fire power for Necrons. This version also fits in with chatter about multiple weapons that deal with horde armies.
Enter highly speculative realm that shouldn’t be taken as facts.
My fear though is that both these rumors are true. Here is a way it could potential work. One type of Necron gets the lesser version of this has this weapon. Another Necron lets say a Special Character gets the power to strike at all identical models army wide. I have a feeling that either way this weapon will be short-range, one shot, low str, and no ap value otherwise we are looking at some game breaking territory.
At least one of these rumors should happen which one though…
Well there you have it folks we are in the stretch run.
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Post by: Battle Brother Ambrosius
No more We'll be back? There goes the whole "unstoppable army of doom that will destroy the Galaxy" fluff. Sounds interesting, good thing they will probably not be table-raping monsters like back in 3ed. The units sound reasonable, and I think will be pretty balanced. I also like the idea of named characters.
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Post by: Stvafel
Hm the first one sounds pretty damn nasty, but as mentioned it probably would have a short range, expensive and on some sort of special character to limit the numbers.
One positive effect though, this would be devastating vs spam lists like BA razorspam and that I would applaud.
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Post by: NecronLord3
Battle Brother Ambrosius wrote:No more We'll be back? There goes the whole "unstoppable army of doom that will destroy the Galaxy" fluff. Sounds interesting, good thing they will probably not be table-raping monsters like back in 3ed. The units sound reasonable, and I think will be pretty balanced. I also like the idea of named characters.
Where are you getting that? WBB is rumored to stay just on a 5+ for most units and 4+ near a Res. Orb. Also, the things that used to cancel out WBB are rumored to be gone.
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Post by: Ktulhut
Bumped for convenience. Page one of the thread is worth reading in light of all the juicy new models.
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Post by: Isengard
Seems my information was 100% correct, now I need to find out what's next!
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Post by: King Pariah
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBeastsOfWar
And just like that, Matt Ward has lost a 40ker. No one wanted Tomb Kings in space. Now they're Tomb Kings in space, feth you Matty, feth you.
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Post by: Ledabot
I like them, painting the people in the transports could be a little fiddly thought. My favorates are the one eyed ones.
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Post by: reds8n
With this thread now being a wee bit too long and unwieldy and as we have other, more uptodate threads, we can put this one to bed.
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