Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Yeah, but LoN release is on Saturday. So I expect full spoilers on Thursday.
Did we ever had a spoiler pic released in the same week?
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Yeah, but LoN release is on Saturday. So I expect full spoilers on Thursday.
Did we ever had a spoiler pic released in the same week?
The book releases on Saturday. From what's been said, the hint seems to imply that it is something a bit further down the road.
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Spoiler:
From the AoS thread.
That could be the Bloodseeker Palanquin, a new option for the Coven Throne/Mortis Engine kit.
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Yeah, but LoN release is on Saturday. So I expect full spoilers on Thursday.
Did we ever had a spoiler pic released in the same week?
If I remember correctly, it was implied Death would be getting a release at the end of the Malign Portents event. Anyway, this looks very much like a death preview, and fits well with last week's rumor.
If he’s talking about the alleged Cthulhu-elves (further assuming that means elves who worship something equivalent to a Deep One or worse) they would naturally fit destruction as that’s kinda where those guys live. Not Death or Chaos because they don’t care about souls, not Order because they don’t care about structure; they are mathematical chaos (rather than the emotional/mystical Chaos of Moorcock) of the sort that spins butterfly wings into tornadoes.
All predicated on the assumptions above, of course.
If they follow Malekith/Seraphon, they'll still be pretty much order. Malekith looks like a Daemon Prince at this time given his most recent image, or at least pretty fethed up.
Bloodmaster wrote: Its a plastic Thunderhawk, a SoB or a Sqaud. Why you ask - because the hint says "A look at the FUTURE itself", so it HAS to be 40k . And those are the only things missing from the otherwise completed range of 40k ;-P
Complete? We need more Primaris Marines, the last wave was literally ages ago. SoB got Celestine with Gathering Storm, and what did Primaris get? That's right, nothing! I find this highly insulting.
In all seriousness, this looks like something undead, but LoN is up for release coming Saturday. That would be the fastest rumour pic to release ever. So it's either an Undead release later this year or something completely different.
They did say they had something in the works for the Undead in White Dwarf.
Spoiler:
From the AoS thread.
That could be the Bloodseeker Palanquin, a new option for the Coven Throne/Mortis Engine kit.
They wouldn't advertise/imply that as "new"...plus the implication is that it's something that we haven't seen yet, and the February WD is available now and we know about the Bloodseeker Palanquin now.
Well, the Perturabo Primarch novel retconned Hrud from not-Space-Skaven/Tentacles to time-travelling, hooded, smelly migrants from the end of time or somesuch. So clearly Hrud
I think it is going to be a some kind of undead miniature. Tattered cloaks and chainmail could be either Chaos or undead, and Chaos just had a big release.
Maybe an undead Space Marine or Sigmarine?
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Clocks are the new keys, just like keys were the new skulls and skulls were the old spikes and spikes were the old rivets.
No seriously.
What's up with everyone carrying keys these days? Death Watch, Dwarf Slayers, Adeptus Mech...
Skulls are desirable, so you can't just put them on spikes anymore. Got to lock them away for safekeeping. Used to be a time keys were enough, but now they use time locks for better security.
I'll be stoked if its more scenery.n ATM40k only really has the sector mechanicus, defence lines and CoD ruins. Id love to see the sector stuff expanded further still, even though it is the best terrain set group GW has for 40kIMO. The only thing it really needs is some larger LoS blocking terrain, but it could do with other things like steps, larger floor sections, solid walls/supports and other cool themed stuff. The plasma themed bits are great, it woulld be nice to have an iron/steel work, machining area and the like
Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh wrote: Could it be we're finally going to see the fabled Sector Mechanicus drill that was featured on the side of the Shadow War box?
It wouldn't be that hard to pump out some Tau, Eldar or Necron terrain...
It's always either Chaos or Imperial. And I do understand that these are the two major factions in the game. I'm even okay with it, but just once couldn't we get something like a plastic Necron Pylon kit, or a Tau Barracks kit that makes 1-3 different buildings?
Even some dead trees, new craters and other scattered debris would be great.
Togusa wrote: It wouldn't be that hard to pump out some Tau, Eldar or Necron terrain...
It's always either Chaos or Imperial. And I do understand that these are the two major factions in the game. I'm even okay with it, but just once couldn't we get something like a plastic Necron Pylon kit, or a Tau Barracks kit that makes 1-3 different buildings?
Even some dead trees, new craters and other scattered debris would be great.
White Dwarf did have a really good article on making a Tau base recently and they do also have their walls, turrets and such.
Necron Terrain could be fun and actual working (rather than ruins) Eldar stuff would be good.
Although a Drop Keep for my Knights would be rather glorious
Togusa wrote: It wouldn't be that hard to pump out some Tau, Eldar or Necron terrain...
It's always either Chaos or Imperial. And I do understand that these are the two major factions in the game. I'm even okay with it, but just once couldn't we get something like a plastic Necron Pylon kit, or a Tau Barracks kit that makes 1-3 different buildings?
Even some dead trees, new craters and other scattered debris would be great.
Togusa wrote: It wouldn't be that hard to pump out some Tau, Eldar or Necron terrain...
It's always either Chaos or Imperial. And I do understand that these are the two major factions in the game. I'm even okay with it, but just once couldn't we get something like a plastic Necron Pylon kit, or a Tau Barracks kit that makes 1-3 different buildings?
Even some dead trees, new craters and other scattered debris would be great.
I think I know a couple kits you could use to make really sweet necron pyramids.
It's not that I don't want more terrain. It's just exhausting to gather together all the parts to make some cool terrain, and then 6 months later more stuff that fits with that set comes out.
At least with the Cities of Death stuff it was 4 sprues that allowed you to build everything.
Now I'm holding off building anything more until we see what this stuff is.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: Clocks are the new keys, just like keys were the new skulls and skulls were the old spikes and spikes were the old rivets.
No seriously.
What's up with everyone carrying keys these days? Death Watch, Dwarf Slayers, Adeptus Mech...
Skulls are desirable, so you can't just put them on spikes anymore. Got to lock them away for safekeeping. Used to be a time keys were enough, but now they use time locks for better security.
I like that.
Prediction - All the 2019 will be carrying biometric keycards to access their skull collections!
Alpharius wrote: It never seems as if there's enough terrain in battle reports or on tournament tables though...
That's a personal pet peeve of mine, and why I find it so difficult to read/watch Battle Reports. The tables are always so barren. I even consider this table to be barren.
Keys are an important item symbolicly. In hereledry they represent knowledge and guardianship. they're common in many coats of arms, partiuclarly within the church, where the Pope's own coat of arms includes two crossed keys.
Alpharius wrote: It never seems as if there's enough terrain in battle reports or on tournament tables though...
That's a personal pet peeve of mine, and why I find it so difficult to read/watch Battle Reports. The tables are always so barren. I even consider this table to be barren.
Here in Finland the tournament tables are completely full of skyscraper -tall terrain, and it absolutely makes the game better. That said, the tournaments here regularly hold about 40 players and even for those 20 tables the organisers need to work their asses off. For a major like LVO with 500 guys it’d be an astronomical task to fill 250 tables with los blocking terrain.
Alpharius wrote: It never seems as if there's enough terrain in battle reports or on tournament tables though...
That's a personal pet peeve of mine, and why I find it so difficult to read/watch Battle Reports. The tables are always so barren. I even consider this table to be barren.
The only YouTube channels that I feel use sufficient terrain in their BatReps are MiniWarGaming and Tabletop Tactics.
Alpharius wrote: It never seems as if there's enough terrain in battle reports or on tournament tables though...
That's a personal pet peeve of mine, and why I find it so difficult to read/watch Battle Reports. The tables are always so barren. I even consider this table to be barren.
To be honest that table is more a Warhammer Fantasy battle table than a W40K one. It has a very small amount of terrain.
Alpharius wrote: It never seems as if there's enough terrain in battle reports or on tournament tables though...
That's a personal pet peeve of mine, and why I find it so difficult to read/watch Battle Reports. The tables are always so barren. I even consider this table to be barren.
The only YouTube channels that I feel use sufficient terrain in their BatReps are MiniWarGaming and Tabletop Tactics.
WinterSeo is the one I have seen that uses the biggest amount of terrain.
First thought Tau, but it's not smooth enough. And for AdMec it somehow is to smooth.... something suggests a new toy for Primarines to me, but that's just poor guessing.
Perhaps we're getting more than one Armiger sized Knight? I'd be up for that!
Do you think it's really going to have just the one arm weapon?
I don't think they'd do a Rumor Engine on a model that's already been revealed, even if it's an option we haven't seen yet. Hopefully this is from another new Knight model we haven't seen yet.
"Ah, but we don't show miniatures previewed elsewhere in the Rumour Engine"
Direct copy from Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page. So it's definitely not the Armiger.
Looks like some kinda gun to me. Maybe the muzzle of an energy weapon. Failing that an exhaust/engine. The shape of it looks more Imperial to me. Tau is more square and sharp for robot bits.
anyname121 wrote: "Ah, but we don't show miniatures previewed elsewhere in the Rumour Engine"
Direct copy from Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page. So it's definitely not the Armiger.
Looks like some kinda gun to me. Maybe the muzzle of an energy weapon. Failing that an exhaust/engine. The shape of it looks more Imperial to me. Tau is more square and sharp for robot bits.
Now see, that's actually something I'd never seen before.
Falling back on the Knight Armiger, I'm going to say it's a new class of robot for AdMech.
Falling back on the Knight Armiger, I'm going to say it's a new class of robot for AdMech.
The Armiger was already fully shown off, so it makes sense.
But now that you mention AdMech, it has the same rounded shapes as the Kastelans. Makes me think of the Forgeworld Mechanicum jump-pack robots. Maybe an updated version of that? Or a beam/energy weapon for a new battle robot.
I remember hearing a rumor somewhere about a Necron/Admech box set thing. Maybe this (Possibly) new bot, the armiger, and the new cryptek model may have meaning?
Highly, highly doubtful that's the case, but I hope it is
Falling back on the Knight Armiger, I'm going to say it's a new class of robot for AdMech.
The Armiger was already fully shown off, so it makes sense.
But now that you mention AdMech, it has the same rounded shapes as the Kastelans. Makes me think of the Forgeworld Mechanicum jump-pack robots. Maybe an updated version of that? Or a beam/energy weapon for a new battle robot.
I've been, for some time, jokingly saying that something the size of the Redemptor with the ability to 'spawn' little Servo Skulls or Minebots would be a good way to give AdMech a bit more board control.
Without having a point of reference or anything to work with, it's hard to say exactly how large this preview was...but it looks to be a bit larger than the weapons on the Kastelans.
Having taken a look at model range I would have to go with Tau. The raised disk shaped structure on the right and the cylindrical structure on the bottom are very similar to existing Tau battlesuits.
I admit, most of the raised disks you see on Tau vehicles are bisected by a groove or symbol but you can see some that aren't also. You also see the same kind of recessed rivets there too.
The tubular, half-circle guard is also more indicative of Tau. Handrails, rungs and railings on Knights and Mechanicus vehicles are more squared off or look like joined together pipe sections.
It does look bumpy and angular but Tau battlesuit weapons can be very bumpy and boxy with ridges and vents and things.
Zhrukal wrote: Having taken a look at model range I would have to go with Tau. The raised disk shaped structure on the right and the cylindrical structure on the bottom are very similar to existing Tau battlesuits. I admit, most of the raised disks you see on Tau vehicles are bisected by a groove or symbol but you can see some that aren't also. You also see the same kind of recessed rivets there too.
The tubular, half-circle guard is also more indicative of Tau. Handrails, rungs and railings on Knights and Mechanicus vehicles are more squared off or look like joined together pipe sections.
It does look bumpy and angular but Tau battlesuit weapons can be very bumpy and boxy with ridges and vents and things.
The thing is, we know the Tau book is coming soon--and they didn't get called out as getting anything new.
Also the part on the left is actually close to what we saw as a 'buttcap' for the Custodes jetbikes with the AdMech skull on them. If one flips the image to look at this as being on the inside of whatever it is(facing the body), the look actually is a lot closer to a Knight than you might know.
The thing is, we know the Tau book is coming soon--and they didn't get called out as getting anything new.
Also the part on the left is actually close to what we saw as a 'buttcap' for the Custodes jetbikes with the AdMech skull on them.
If one flips the image to look at this as being on the inside of whatever it is(facing the body), the look actually is a lot closer to a Knight than you might know.
Ehhhhh...It still looks more Tau to me. And, while I think it's unlikely, just because GW didn't preview something for the Tau book doesn't mean they aren't getting something but even if they don't this may be for a Tau release that's not in the upcoming Codex. The oldest unsolved rumors are from just over a year ago. We may be looking at a release in support of a boxed game or Tau Warzone that won't see the light of day until 2019.
Could be part of a phase 2 Primaris release? Primaris Marines for example need a veteran unit. right now there's no way to make a "first company" of Primaris Marines
BrianDavion wrote: Could be part of a phase 2 Primaris release? Primaris Marines for example need a veteran unit. right now there's no way to make a "first company" of Primaris Marines
man I hope not...I mean, I don't particularly care either way, but just imagine the fresh wave of "more space marines? boooooo!" (to put it very mildly)
BrianDavion wrote: Could be part of a phase 2 Primaris release? Primaris Marines for example need a veteran unit. right now there's no way to make a "first company" of Primaris Marines
Doubt it. Doesn’t look like infantry, and they just got a vehicle.
Actually, any idea about the scale of this thing? That could help solve the Imperium/Tau argument.
If the rivets are around 0.5-1 millimetre, the image is about 10-20 mm across, which seems kind of big for infantry gear, but just about plausible if it's a big weapon or backpack although I'd say a vehicle seems much more likely.
Some images of the Khinerai on display at warhammer world popped up, this is where the end of one tail connects to the rock on the base. So yet another rumor engine solved by the DoK release.
While the raised circle and the small square indent are quite typical aspects of T'au design, something that doesn't fit with their look is the raised vent-like bit sticking out on the top. That isn't something we've seen anything like with T'au stuff before, that i know of. Usually any sort of vents or anything like that is integrated into the actual design, or at least done in a way where it isn't just a small bit sticking out like that - compared to something like the side of the Fusion Blaster, it seems a lot more tacked on and primitive. I keep thinking i've seen something like it before, potentially with the Kharadron Overlords, but i can't find anything similar.
aracersss wrote: there might be a chance ... the sprue leak is of the back of the quiver(s)
Edit 1: Nevermind ... the design of the arrows is different
This, and the quiver has a different form, although the basic designe has similarities.
A new battle-automata would be amazing. It sucks that admech, "the robot faction" has exactly one choice of robot (at least until we get the ability to use the 5-6 amazing looking options from forgeworld currently sitting around collecting dust)
I just hope GW reverts to their old strategy of just saying "we made a new model. It's always been there. What do you want?" instead of having the new 'bot be the brand new sparkly invention of Belligerent Carl aka the only guy in the imperium who ever invents anything, marty stu extraordinaire.
It looks to me like the back torso of an Imperium walker. The narrow section at the bottom sitting on the circular, rotating waist joint. You see this in Knight titans, Kastelan robots and Contemptor dreadnaughts. You don't see it as much in Tau, Eldar doesn't have exposed pipes or machinery and Necrons don't have bipedal walkers (so far).
Beyond being Imperial I'm not sure what unit it could be. My first thought was a new Knight but it could also be a battle robot, dreadnaught or even a Penitant eng- nope, nope, I don't want to be the one to reset that clock.
From what I've read, AT wasn't shelved, it was reimagined. Originally, it was going to be a small release all in resin, but after the success of Blood Bowl and Necromunda, they decided to redo the release in plastic. That's why it was delayed so heavily.
Nostromodamus wrote:Tilting Shield for a Legio Mortis Warlord?
Semi-joking...
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:that texture behind the logo just seems odd for a shield,
i'd say its meant to be stonework and so it's part of a terrain kit of some sort
gnome_idea_what wrote:I’m going to go with something’s base.
It is the terrain piece on the base for the warlord that the Emperor Forgeworld model will be on. The Emperor model will cost about $8000 since the base will include the whole Morris Titan Legion base facility on it with 3 titans in differing states of repair.
Good point. Even Latin letters seem rare. I know Oberyn's (Shadespire core set) hammer has 'Sigmar' written on it, but that's pretty much it I think. The remaining SCE all have made up symbols afaik. I do not get an AoS vibe from this.
Good point. Even Latin letters seem rare. I know Oberyn's (Shadespire core set) hammer has 'Sigmar' written on it, but that's pretty much it I think. The remaining SCE all have made up symbols afaik. I do not get an AoS vibe from this.
The Liber Mortis was a magical book available to Vampire Counts (I believe) in Warhammer Fantasy.
Undead had banners with "Mortis" before, this goes back to at least Advanced HeroQuest times.
The hourglass can be found on previous Warhammer terrain pieces, e.g. the Witchfate Tor.
I'll go with AoS terrain piece/possibly part of a scenic base.
Hanskrampf wrote: Undead had banners with "Mortis" before, this goes back to at least Advanced HeroQuest times.
The hourglass can be found on previous Warhammer terrain pieces, e.g. the Witchfate Tor.
I'll go with AoS terrain piece/possibly part of a scenic base.
Hourglass was also a motif used by Priests/Knights of Morr in the Empire.
Whatever this particular preview is, it seems to be a shield done up in the style of the Bretonnian Man-At-Arms kit.
Would be cool for it to be a plastic Blood Knights kit with some of the guys using Bretonnian styled shields, some using Empire, some using Aelf, etc.
Van Saar have a unique STC and are the most tech oriented gang, and each gang seems to be getting uniquely styled stuff so i'd say thats the side/back of end of a large plasma cannon or laser.
I think the clue is in the write up. "You know the drill", I think it might be the drill scenery for Necromunda that somebody mentioned about once on the artwork on the game box. Can't remember if it was this thread or the Necromunda one.
Marleymoo wrote: I think the clue is in the write up. "You know the drill", I think it might be the drill scenery for Necromunda that somebody mentioned about once on the artwork on the game box. Can't remember if it was this thread or the Necromunda one.
So, out of curiosity, anyone has any ideas on the 3 things that remained unsolved for a year now? And why GW teased them at all if they knew the reveal will be so far away...?
Irbis wrote: So, out of curiosity, anyone has any ideas on the 3 things that remained unsolved for a year now? And why GW teased them at all if they knew the reveal will be so far away...?
Can you be more specific, links to those pictures? Which ones are they?
I wonder if they are due to them shifting stuff around in the schedule? Maybe the Ork buggies, for example, were supposed to be released last year but was pushed forward due to.... reasons?
Lately though it feels like the reveal times have been increasingly shorter, like the Van Saar stuff for example.
On the other hand, it does offer glimpse in the workings of the company we wouldn't otherwise get, such as what is prioritized to release, what delayed, and when something is almost ready to go (as in, with painters receiving first production run to paint) vs when it's on the market. If someone made in-depth analysis it would probably offer a lot of interesting insights...
Yeah, I remember on Twitch they interviewed some of the 'Eavy Metal painters and they sometimes paint things up to a year in advance of them being released. So I suppose they queue of upcoming stuff is always quite long, and there may be many reasons that kit A is developed well before kit B, but B is released before - scheduling of campaigns and codexes/army books etc.
I feel like we are going to get a new record for time from rumour engine to reveal as gw are probably going to show off the rest of the imperial knights range tomorrow.
Its very close to the exhaust cowling for the existing plastic Imperial Knight. But looking at the rivets and the cut outs at the end of the pipe it seems smaller? The regular Knight has three rivets and two cut outs per pipe. So maybe there is a 2nd smaller IK frame that's not an Armiger variant on the way? But then the Knight only has one of those smaller style pipes(top and bottom of the pic) as part of its stack. So could it be from a new large Imperial Knight with a triple(or more) pipe exhaust? Either way its to close in design to the current Imperial Knights exhaust to IMO be anything other than a third Knight frame in plastic
GoatboyBeta wrote: Its very close to the exhaust cowling for the existing plastic Imperial Knight. But looking at the rivets and the cut outs at the end of the pipe it seems smaller? The regular Knight has three rivets and two cut outs per pipe. So maybe there is a 2nd smaller IK frame that's not an Armiger variant on the way? But then the Knight only has one of those smaller style pipes(top and bottom of the pic) as part of its stack. So could it be from a new large Imperial Knight with a triple(or more) pipe exhaust? Either way its to close in design to the current Imperial Knights exhaust to IMO be anything other than a third Knight frame in plastic
That is my exact conclusion as well. Also note that on the current knight the perforated heat cowl is divided into three sections whereas this one is only split into two such sections. My inclination is that it will be a medium knight kit--larger than the Armiger but smaller than the current knight. But as you say, there's nothing to rule out an even larger knight with several of these slightly smaller stacks. My suspicion is that there is a higher degree of likelihood of the former rather than the latter.
EDIT (03/22/18): Nope. Well, I was off—turns out it was a MUCH larger knight after all. Oh well. I've been wrong before...
GoatboyBeta wrote: Its very close to the exhaust cowling for the existing plastic Imperial Knight. But looking at the rivets and the cut outs at the end of the pipe it seems smaller? The regular Knight has three rivets and two cut outs per pipe. So maybe there is a 2nd smaller IK frame that's not an Armiger variant on the way? But then the Knight only has one of those smaller style pipes(top and bottom of the pic) as part of its stack. So could it be from a new large Imperial Knight with a triple(or more) pipe exhaust? Either way its to close in design to the current Imperial Knights exhaust to IMO be anything other than a third Knight frame in plastic
That is my exact conclusion as well. Also note that on the current knight the perforated heat cowl is divided into three sections whereas this one is only split into two such sections. My inclination is that it will be a medium knight kit--larger than the Armiger but smaller than the current knight. But as you say, there's nothing to rule out an even larger knight with several of these slightly smaller stacks. My suspicion is that there is a higher degree of likelihood of the former rather than the latter.
Or it could be an even smaller than the Armiger Knight variant that only has one smoke stack and goes "Pew Pew!" with a laser!
GoatboyBeta wrote: Its very close to the exhaust cowling for the existing plastic Imperial Knight. But looking at the rivets and the cut outs at the end of the pipe it seems smaller? The regular Knight has three rivets and two cut outs per pipe. So maybe there is a 2nd smaller IK frame that's not an Armiger variant on the way? But then the Knight only has one of those smaller style pipes(top and bottom of the pic) as part of its stack. So could it be from a new large Imperial Knight with a triple(or more) pipe exhaust? Either way its to close in design to the current Imperial Knights exhaust to IMO be anything other than a third Knight frame in plastic
That is my exact conclusion as well. Also note that on the current knight the perforated heat cowl is divided into three sections whereas this one is only split into two such sections. My inclination is that it will be a medium knight kit--larger than the Armiger but smaller than the current knight. But as you say, there's nothing to rule out an even larger knight with several of these slightly smaller stacks. My suspicion is that there is a higher degree of likelihood of the former rather than the latter.
Or it could be an even smaller than the Armiger Knight variant that only has one smoke stack and goes "Pew Pew!" with a laser!
The possibilities are endless!
... and now Im picturing a stumpy-legged knight barely higher than a spacemarine shooting a lasgun. Thanks for that.
There is a thread over on the B&C AM section http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343659-ad-mech-vs-necrons-box-in-march/ with a poster who seemed to be fairly accurate on the Forgebane box. He mentions a new Knight coming called the Castellan. A name that was used in the old Epic for a Knight http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Knight_Castellan. Considering how the current Knight kit seems to take some inspiration from the old Epic Knight Paladin and Errant models, I'm really hoping he's right about a new version of the Castellan.
BrianDavion wrote: It'd fill an obvious hole in the knight line up, right now we have a light flanker type, the main line trooper... a "heavy mech" varient seems likely.
Doesn't pretty much every single FW knight besides Questoris line qualify as 'heavier' knight though? They are all larger and more powerfully armed than plastic one, sooo...
It's clearly the exhaust for the Emperor's rascal that he uses to scoot around the palace to avoid taking his meds and evade the custodes. Barring that, I hope it's a new IK.
I'd say plastic sisters but gw have a history of hyping up a release and then being something entirely predictable. It'll be either a big knight titan or a primarch.
Also, adepticon reveal says they're STARTING plastic sisters soon, and will be updating us through the process. So it safe to say there's none in the rumor engine that have been seen (or will be for some time)
Its another piece of terrain, definitely. If it was an actual model, the handle thing would be a seperate piece, most likely. There *is* a slight possibility it might be part of a really big orkish machine, but I dont think so... or if it is, its in an obscured location.
BobtheInquisitor wrote: The lack of undercuts makes me think it's a really close up shot of a hatch on an epic scale Titan.
I think it's indeed part of a vehicle model (not sure if Titan) since the hatch seems way less detailed than the ones in the latest scenery design from necromunda.
It gives me the feel it's something downscaled from a 28mm perspective.
Since they announced the Deepkin, the last few Shadespire factions, the Castellan, and the new Death model, there's not much left on the rumor engine checklist. They're starting from scratch, and scratch is a terrain kit.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
Yeah, but they are up for pre-order on April 14th. So the teaser is for something 2 weeks away? I find that highly unlikely.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
Yeah, but they are up for pre-order on April 14th. So the teaser is for something 2 weeks away? I find that highly unlikely.
The book and Warscroll Cards are up for preorder on April 14th, we don't have dates for any of the models. That's something that was made repeatedly clear in the Idoneth related threads.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
This is not true. Just watched back to be sure. Eddie mentioned that the video was not everything in the range but it seems likely it was just some alternate builds that we have not seen. (Pete didn’t say anything on that topic) According to the recent white dwarf the warscroll card set contains cards for 14 units. Adding alternative builds for the avatar and deepmare rider to the units shown in the video we get 14 units.
This pic is definitely not Deepkin unless it is from a shadespire warband.
Do they ever reveal the model the Rumor Engine is based on? I don't think I've ever seen GW reveal the model, but I don't pay that much attention to the Rumor Engines/Community Pages.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
This is not true. Just watched back to be sure. Eddie mentioned that the video was not everything in the range but it seems likely it was just some alternate builds that we have not seen. (Pete didn’t say anything on that topic) According to the recent white dwarf the warscroll card set contains cards for 14 units. Adding alternative builds for the avatar and deepmare rider to the units shown in the video we get 14 units.
This pic is definitely not Deepkin unless it is from a shadespire warband.
Pete, Eddie--someone said the things we'd seen weren't it. I last watched it awhile ago so there's a reason I said "paraphrasing".
Oh, and your speculation is based strictly upon the idea that alternative builds make out the units rather than being weapon swaps like some units have.
As of right now we know of one unit with a definitive alternative build and that's the eel riders(the beast-riders bit has it mentioned that there's two different types). The Avatar's warscroll card that we got in French actually has him effectively being able to swap weapon loadouts on the warscroll, not being two different units--it still leaves it open for a secondary build but we don't know for sure.
We know that there's two different Namarti(eyeless thralls) kits in the form of the Skirmishers and the Heavy Armoured ones. We don't know however if there's two different units coming out of it instead of two different weapon options. We know the Leviadon is a big fricking turtle but we don't know if its "four alternate builds" that got mentioned via rumormongers/secondhand info at the Adepticon reveal are loadouts ala the Stegadon or other big warmachines/monsters like that or if it's four profiles.
So we know there's 14 units. We don't know how things break down. We know at least that the Avatar has an alternative build but we don't know 100% if it's an alternative profile as well.
Hanskrampf wrote: Okay, this looks like Idoneth Deepkin but that would be a pretty pointless teaser.
Some kind of dragon?
During the Facebook Live chat Pete Foley mentioned that what we'd seen of the Idoneth amounted to (paraphrasing here) something like a quarter of the range, so it's possible that it's something Idoneth we haven't seen yet.
This is not true. Just watched back to be sure. Eddie mentioned that the video was not everything in the range but it seems likely it was just some alternate builds that we have not seen. (Pete didn’t say anything on that topic) According to the recent white dwarf the warscroll card set contains cards for 14 units. Adding alternative builds for the avatar and deepmare rider to the units shown in the video we get 14 units.
This pic is definitely not Deepkin unless it is from a shadespire warband.
Pete, Eddie--someone said the things we'd seen weren't it. I last watched it awhile ago so there's a reason I said "paraphrasing".
Oh, and your speculation is based strictly upon the idea that alternative builds make out the units rather than being weapon swaps like some units have.
As of right now we know of one unit with a definitive alternative build and that's the eel riders(the beast-riders bit has it mentioned that there's two different types). The Avatar's warscroll card that we got in French actually has him effectively being able to swap weapon loadouts on the warscroll, not being two different units--it still leaves it open for a secondary build but we don't know for sure.
We know that there's two different Namarti(eyeless thralls) kits in the form of the Skirmishers and the Heavy Armoured ones. We don't know however if there's two different units coming out of it instead of two different weapon options. We know the Leviadon is a big fricking turtle but we don't know if its "four alternate builds" that got mentioned via rumormongers/secondhand info at the Adepticon reveal are loadouts ala the Stegadon or other big warmachines/monsters like that or if it's four profiles.
So we know there's 14 units. We don't know how things break down. We know at least that the Avatar has an alternative build but we don't know 100% if it's an alternative profile as well.
Actually thanks to the new white dwarf we know a lot. The eidolon aspect of the storm gets a dedicated warscroll as can be seen in the white dwarf photo.
So we have Eidolon 1 , Ediolon 2 , named deepmare character (volturnos) generic deepmare rider, levidon (turtle), allopex (shark), soul warden (octopus guy), soul scryer (wind chimes guy), soul render (pilot light guy), tidecaster (female hero), thralls (close combat ), whisperers (bow ) and the two eel units Ishlaenn guard and Morsaar guard. That makes 14.
Actually thanks to the new white dwarf we know a lot. The eidolon aspect of the storm gets a dedicated warscroll as can be seen in the white dwarf photo. So we have Eidolon 1 , Ediolon 2 , named deepmare character (volturnos) generic deepmare rider, levidon (turtle), allopex (shark), soul warden (octopus guy), soul scryer (wind chimes guy), soul render (pilot light guy), tidecaster (female hero), thralls (close combat ), whisperers (bow ) and the two eel units Ishlaenn guard and Morsaar guard. That makes 14.
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Try direct-linking the image rather than doing a download, people can actually read it then.
Tamwulf wrote: Do they ever reveal the model the Rumor Engine is based on? I don't think I've ever seen GW reveal the model, but I don't pay that much attention to the Rumor Engines/Community Pages.
They update the relevant rumor page with a link to the model when it's officially released, but they don't make any sort of announcement. You have to actually look back through the Community archives to find it.
Kanluwen wrote: The book and Warscroll Cards are up for preorder on April 14th, we don't have dates for any of the models. That's something that was made repeatedly clear in the Idoneth related threads.
Yup, because it totally makes sense to release book for new range without any models for said range. If you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell you, even without considering we're talking about Games "No models, No rules" Workshop, a company that would choose to release rulebook a month after the models rather than give a free window of opportunity to IP pirates and recasters...
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