I'm really hurting for a good Manticore. The Chaos one is so ugly it hurts and the Mierce one is way too big. Even decently sized bat wings are not that easy to get, let alone a lion that has a fitting size for them *and* a rider.
Remember the old one that fit a big square base, had a sorceror ridingt it and had a mouth so full of teeth it could hardly close it? That was one of the first Warhammer monsters I saw and I never found one in one of the few stores that carried GW stuff. Sigh. And I never bought a Necrosphinx to convert one, either. I just want a squat quadruped scorpion-lion-bat monster that doesn't look like total gak, is that too much to ask?
kronk wrote: Well then. Found my next Cleric mini for D&D!
So you want to be an eight-foot tall, muscle-bound, ebon warrior now?
Where do you get that he is eight feet tall? He's shorter than the Chieftain (who is in turn smaller than the Bloodbound heroes) and significantly shorter than the Knight Questor.
kronk wrote: Well then. Found my next Cleric mini for D&D!
So you want to be an eight-foot tall, muscle-bound, ebon warrior now?
Where do you get that he is eight feet tall? He's shorter than the Chieftain (who is in turn smaller than the Bloodbound heroes) and significantly shorter than the Knight Questor.
That he is:
a) bigger than a space marine and
b) he's described as being extremely tall in the novel (also being first one to die... spoilers I guess but c'mon he was the black guy, of course he's going to be the first to kick the bucket)
kronk wrote: Well then. Found my next Cleric mini for D&D!
So you want to be an eight-foot tall, muscle-bound, ebon warrior now?
Where do you get that he is eight feet tall? He's shorter than the Chieftain (who is in turn smaller than the Bloodbound heroes) and significantly shorter than the Knight Questor.
That he is:
a) bigger than a space marine and
b) he's described as being extremely tall in the novel (also being first one to die... spoilers I guess but c'mon he was the black guy, of course he's going to be the first to kick the bucket)
Eh, even Cadians are taller than Space Marines it seems. GW isn't exactly consistent with scale. I was curious as I keep seeing this fact mentioned. He really doesn't seem that tall when compared to other models. He's somewhere between the height of a GSC Neophyte and a Chaos Warrior.
kronk wrote: Well then. Found my next Cleric mini for D&D!
So you want to be an eight-foot tall, muscle-bound, ebon warrior now?
Where do you get that he is eight feet tall? He's shorter than the Chieftain (who is in turn smaller than the Bloodbound heroes) and significantly shorter than the Knight Questor.
That he is:
a) bigger than a space marine and
b) he's described as being extremely tall in the novel (also being first one to die... spoilers I guess but c'mon he was the black guy, of course he's going to be the first to kick the bucket)
Eh, even Cadians are taller than Space Marines it seems. GW isn't exactly consistent with scale. I was curious as I keep seeing this fact mentioned. He really doesn't seem that tall when compared to other models. He's somewhere between the height of a GSC Neophyte and a Chaos Warrior.
In the novel he's quite tall. Still, the exact height is unknown.
Binabik15 wrote: I'm really hurting for a good Manticore. The Chaos one is so ugly it hurts and the Mierce one is way too big. Even decently sized bat wings are not that easy to get, let alone a lion that has a fitting size for them *and* a rider.
Remember the old one that fit a big square base, had a sorceror ridingt it and had a mouth so full of teeth it could hardly close it? That was one of the first Warhammer monsters I saw and I never found one in one of the few stores that carried GW stuff. Sigh. And I never bought a Necrosphinx to convert one, either. I just want a squat quadruped scorpion-lion-bat monster that doesn't look like total gak, is that too much to ask?
The weapon in the image looks like a pistol version of those crossbolters the Judicators use, not sure about the beastie it's strapped to. Demigryph maybe?
Oh yeah on facebook someone did an image cut and compared them to see what I was clearly talking about. Tzeentch corrupting people via cults and cults rising across all the cities manipulating everyone? Sigmar would not send the stormcasts that's not their forte.
I'd personally rather see the duardin or aelves before more humans...humans in general...mutated/chaos or not, superhuman or not...i'd rather see something else next. I still haven't bought into age of sigmar yet, it just doesn't feel developed enough to capture my imagination yet. There's a good chance i'll never be able to let go of the old world, maybe that why I jumped on Blood Bowl so quick.
Carnikang wrote: You know, has the Devoted of Sigmar faction been stated to be exclusively human? It could be an elf or something that's part of the faction.
It's a human faction it's made up of all the religious zealots of sigmar witch hunters, flagellants, warrior priests and the war altar of sigmar. In the grand alliance tome their job is to make such faith in sigmar remains strong after the stormcast leave to do other things and handle the general cleansing and to well stop chaos cults.
Also tzeentch is causing cults to rise well everywhere. A common mistake is people still think they are part of the "free people" or free guild faction they have been separated into two armies. Now of course GW could pull a fast one on us but I do believe that the rumor image is sigmarite.
That's beautiful little sculpt, whatever it belongs to. I may seek one out as an alternate mascot sculpt for my Guild Ball Hunters, never been totally happy with the sculpt or the paint job I've done on mine.
In the end of fall of cadia there are a bunch of eldar people. Their names are in the dramatis personae page floating around in the sisters rumor thread.
This seems related to the Eldar in question probably getting a model for the next book. Also this gives credence to the Dark Eldar robes theory and a possible Eldar Triumvirate. The Eldar Shadowseer + Grynx, some Dark Eldar model, and the corsair/exodite/some type of eldar cool dude they leaked that shows us the guy from the leaked webway gate cadia picture who towers over all the other eldar.
So if it's accompanying a psyker...why such a large base? Perhaps a Seer riding an Exodite dragon? Seems like a comically large base if they're just going to put a single Eldar mini on there.
Elbows wrote: So if it's accompanying a psyker...why such a large base? Perhaps a Seer riding an Exodite dragon? Seems like a comically large base if they're just going to put a single Eldar mini on there.
Maybe just a bigger base because it has two models on it ?
That's a big gyrinx. Lovely way to to reveal a new model and keep us teased for the rest of it.
EnTyme wrote: I'm anxious to see what else goes on that base.
Yeah, that's a big base for what is presumably a single eldar character, even with the cat on it. Would love it to be Malys with a particularly elaborate train on her dress but I wouldn't have thought the Deldar to have Gyrinx around what with them being somewhat psychic.
Gamgee wrote: If they really want to impress me then the Exodites will get a character representing them as well in the big Eldar quartet.
As cool as a new (old) eldar faction would be I actually hope they don't go that route. We are reaching insane levels of bloat and too many factions are becoming stagnant. I don't think it's exodites also because there have been zero rumors of exodites. It will probably be a shadowseer special character, after all the harlequins have a very small line of models and it makes sense to expand it, especially when they are playing a role in the campaign.
Red Corsair wrote: He could simply be painting it on a large spare base to prevent carpel tunnel as well.
Always the optimist i see lol.
Whats the purpose of that snark?
I paint hundreds of models a year and I am simply shedding some light on this, I use massive bases for fiddly models often, positioned near the edge just like he has it.
Elbows wrote: So if it's accompanying a psyker...why such a large base? Perhaps a Seer riding an Exodite dragon? Seems like a comically large base if they're just going to put a single Eldar mini on there.
It's not that large of a base.
It's the same size base as the Skitarii with Transauranic Arqebus, the 60x35.5mm Oval Base
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Big enough to fit a Dark Elf Cold One Knight on it. With room to spare....
Dude, your not getting your dino-rider
But seriously, if it's an exodite I'll eat my hat. If there was someone riding a big lizard I would have expected Cawl to have mentioned it in that little excerpt we've seen.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Big enough to fit a Dark Elf Cold One Knight on it. With room to spare....
Dude, your not getting your dino-rider
But seriously, if it's an exodite I'll eat my hat. If there was someone riding a big lizard I would have expected Cawl to have mentioned it in that little excerpt we've seen.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Big enough to fit a Dark Elf Cold One Knight on it. With room to spare....
Dude, your not getting your dino-rider
But seriously, if it's an exodite I'll eat my hat. If there was someone riding a big lizard I would have expected Cawl to have mentioned it in that little excerpt we've seen.
Do you want hot sauce with that
Incredibly unlikely there will be an exodite. We already have descriptions of the force and characters and none pop out as an outcast. It also makes no sense fluff wise, exodites avoid everyone like the plague, they are space hermits that exist on the fringes of the galaxy. I would expect them to pop up in another campaign involving Nids and or Necrons from the eastern fringes before they would pop up near the eye of terror, you know, the exact site of the destroyed Crone worlds they went as from away from as possible.
That said, I am not crapping on the idea, just adding some salt to the reality of the situation. BTW you can build an exodite army already using DE and CWE kits mixed with Seraphon/Aelf kits pretty easily.
While the fluff from Fall of Cadia doesn't mention an Exodite character, the 5th edition rulebook (which introduced the then new Time of Ending storyline including the Emperor's throne failing and the Astronomicon flickering) came with this Eldar map showing lots of Exodite Worlds
There were a few rumors about Exodites during the last 18 months, the latest this week from WiskeyPriest on Faeit who was told one of the new Eldar character models would be an Exodite. While I don't consider this an information from a reliable source, Atia mentioned there is a chance for an Exodite release at least twice last year. I'm not convinced by the current rumors that it will happen now but if Celestine was meant to be a 'teaser release' for SoB later in 2017, the same could happen with an Exodite character model.
And the WZF campaign book 1 didn't spoiler the Thousand Sons release either
Automatically Appended Next Post: Pretre and me dug out these
Gyrinxes are more associated with Harlequins and Craftworlders than Exodites, for what it's worth - Exodites generally prefer the scaly kind of critter.
That psyker-cat is quickly going to become the most in-demand bit going, I think.
Disciples of Tzeentch, which will be posted in the appropriate thread. Also, we should be seeing the first preorders on the NZ site in about 15 minutes.
We should start seeing DoT leaks soon! Tomorrow at the latest.
Oh, tough call, I prefer cats but Gryph-Hounds are just so cool.
Someone needs to suggest to GW to make a menagerie pack for all the amazing animals they've been making.
Gamgee wrote: If it is some sort of cool hammer gun or gun hammer then they got a lot of catching up to do in that department.
Spoiler:
Off-topic but it's funny how many fan comics have that thing able to shoot. I think gun hammers would've been a better idea than the current gun lance line. (Though I'm heavily biased towards regular lances, joust charge ftw!)
Also, calling it now that the Mary sue of the upcoming Monster Hunter movie gets that hammer on pure "Americans will think it's cool!".
Baron Klatz wrote: Off-topic but it's funny how many fan comics have that thing able to shoot. I think gun hammers would've been a better idea than the current gun lance line. (Though I'm heavily biased towards regular lances, joust charge ftw!)
Also, calling it now that the Mary sue of the upcoming Monster Hunter movie gets that hammer on pure "Americans will think it's cool!".
But it's a really good Fire hammer man.
On topic, that cat is adorable. I'll need 5 for my crazy cat lady model I intend to make...
So looking at these hints, it seems the next few releases will be Tzeentch (obviously) gathering storm part 2 featuring Eldar, steampunk Duardin and maybe some aos humans. That is a pretty good start to the year.
Baron Klatz wrote: Off-topic but it's funny how many fan comics have that thing able to shoot. I think gun hammers would've been a better idea than the current gun lance line. (Though I'm heavily biased towards regular lances, joust charge ftw!)
Also, calling it now that the Mary sue of the upcoming Monster Hunter movie gets that hammer on pure "Americans will think it's cool!".
But it's a really good Fire hammer man.
On topic, that cat is adorable. I'll need 5 for my crazy cat lady model I intend to make...
It's so strange referencing MH and having people know and love the games. I come from the PS2 days of yore and no one would believe me they were great games for years. It always brings a tear to my eye to see how far the community came with each release and how far it will go.
A duardin pistol would look more like the rifle that the Cogsmith carries, with a wooden grip and dwarven runes. This has none of the elements that makes it feel dwarvish to me.
It's gotta be 40K Space Marine of some sort. That handle/pistol grip is identical to those on the Space Marine bolt gun/pistol. If it were Duardin it would be more ornate and covered with filigree just as Ghaz suggests
If we assume the cloak, gyrinx tail, and other revealed hints have mostly been focused on Eldar; and we also assume that the rumor of three-hero boxes for factions stands (Triumverate Of The Imperium, Aledari, then Chaos), it makes perfect sense a more archaic pistol belongs to a Chaos Marine of some sort.
So questions I'll ask to point in that direction are- do we believe a new Cypher model is coming, where is Fabius Bile in all this, and what other Chaos hero could make a first appearance(or reappearance)?
That's definitely AoS. Look, there's a hammer on that gun. I've flipped through a lot of 40k models and there is no instance of a pistol with a firing hammer, even on the "archaic" Inquisition weaponry.
Is that a firing hammer, or is it a hook like it's where the holster connects to something- upon further inspection, the holster and straps look definitely in motion- Biker?
Gremore wrote: If we assume the cloak, gyrinx tail, and other revealed hints have mostly been focused on Eldar; and we also assume that the rumor of three-hero boxes for factions stands (Triumverate Of The Imperium, Aledari, then Chaos), it makes perfect sense a more archaic pistol belongs to a Chaos Marine of some sort.
So questions I'll ask to point in that direction are- do we believe a new Cypher model is coming, where is Fabius Bile in all this, and what other Chaos hero could make a first appearance(or reappearance)?
We don't know where Fabius Bile is in all this, but Cypher definitely makes an appearance in "Fall of Cadia".
A lone robed individual exhibiting Pre-Heresy Astartes combat tactics attacked a vault in the depths of an Inquisitorial fortress. Once inside the vault, he was "whisked away" by forces unknown.
Gremore wrote:Is that a firing hammer, or is it a hook like it's where the holster connects to something- upon further inspection, the holster and straps look definitely in motion- Biker?
Nah, definitely a hammer. There's no way that hooks on to anything, and it is the same basic shape as what you might see on a revolver.
I do agree that it looks in motion - the last gun we saw in the Rumor Mill looked like it was strapped to a mount and that looked AoS as well. Mounted Witch Hunters/Duardin hype!
Verviedi wrote:AdMech Phosphor Pistols have firing hammers. So do Phosphor Serpentas and Radium Carbines.
Eeeh... they have machinery where a hammer would historically go but I think it's a stretch to assume they fulfill the same purpose. Comparatively, Plasma Pistols have a knob or nut where a hammer would go, but it looks more like a venting or charging port than something you need to cock to fire.
This clearly looks like something that is involved in the firing mechanism.
Ghaz wrote: A duardin pistol would look more like the rifle that the Cogsmith carries, with a wooden grip and dwarven runes. This has none of the elements that makes it feel dwarvish to me.
Looks like an artificer tigris pattern bolt pistol to me. Interesting if it turns out to be AoS, but I don't see any clues that point in that direction. If not a chaos marine, then maybe another inquisitor?
For all the talk of GW getting better because they use social media now, a lot of the hints seem to be deliberate trolls. There's no possible way to guess what these are.
It's a plastic moriats pistol from the next Horus Heresy boxed set. It will come with a bolt pistol and plasma pistol, and just happen to wear a robe. There will even be an optional sword you can add to his back.
Joyboozer wrote: For all the talk of GW getting better because they use social media now, a lot of the hints seem to be deliberate trolls. There's no possible way to guess what these are.
Which is what makes it fun.
What do you want, their full release schedule? Honestly, I'd find that boring.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I think that may be some sort of combi-bolt pistol.
Aren't bolt pistol holsters usually squared off?
The shape of that holster suggests that rather than a bolt pistol muzzle the shape of the gun at the end is curved, like a plasma pistol.
I think there is a shot selecter to toggle between the two.
This is wild speculation and probably wrong, but plasma weaponry is normally associated with Dark Angels so I reckon it may well be Cypher but they have merged his weapons into combi pistols?
Even if it's just a staright bolt pistol and not a combi if you look at the direction the holster straps are in it has to be from a model in a pretty dynamic, running forward pose, which would also suggest Cypher.
I think it belongs on something like a bike, the shape of the holster and the way the straps are flowing makes me think it should be attached to something with the gun barrel pointing down.
BrookM wrote: There are only two poses acceptable for a future Cypher model..
Guns blazing
Spoiler:
Or the classic "I just left a pile of corpses in my wake"
Spoiler:
He's one of the few gunslinger characters out there, suggesting him not going about guns akimbo would be a crime against this guy.
If he had a running pose with the plasma pistol drawn and the other hand reaching for the bolt pistol, that would make for a great Cypher. Like showing him rapidly reacting to a fight.
Though if it really hard to load a belt feed revolver in a fire fight.
Yeah, that belt fed system you see on chaos weapons don't make sense to me. How do you reload it? Is that what its supposed to look like without the magazine, because that's not how they are filled.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Yeah, that belt fed system you see on chaos weapons don't make sense to me. How do you reload it? Is that what its supposed to look like without the magazine, because that's not how they are filled.
Try not to think about the size of bolter shells relative to the size of the magazines, you'll come to the conclusion that you get two, maybe three shots per reload, and those guys are lucky if they go into battle with one spare clip on their little fanny pack.
I'm probably wrong, but Im fairly convinced it's a chaos character's bolt pistol.... and I don't rightly remember the name, but wasn't there a special chaos biker character from long ago?
Ok yeah, that's stupid. I'll stick with Cypher or a new character.
BrookM wrote:There are only two poses acceptable for a future Cypher model..
Guns blazing
Spoiler:
Or the classic "I just left a pile of corpses in my wake"
Spoiler:
He's one of the few gunslinger characters out there, suggesting him not going about guns akimbo would be a crime against this guy.
Thing is, the gun is holstered. So this would mean he is not using the gun and his hand is free for something else in his right hand. So if this bit is used it will not be for like the two beautiful pics you have shown.
BrookM wrote:There are only two poses acceptable for a future Cypher model..
Guns blazing
Spoiler:
He's one of the few gunslinger characters out there, suggesting him not going about guns akimbo would be a crime against this guy.
Thing is, the gun is holstered. So this would mean he is not using the gun and his hand is free for something else in his right hand. So if this bit is used it will not be for like the two beautiful pics you have shown.
Take the first picture/pose, but have one hand on the hilt of the sword, ready to draw it.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Yeah, that belt fed system you see on chaos weapons don't make sense to me. How do you reload it? Is that what its supposed to look like without the magazine, because that's not how they are filled.
Try not to think about the size of bolter shells relative to the size of the magazines, you'll come to the conclusion that you get two, maybe three shots per reload, and those guys are lucky if they go into battle with one spare clip on their little fanny pack.
Oh yeah, that too. Unless imperial magazines are really bags of holding, they should only be getting like 4-6 shots off. Anyway, maybe the pistol is combi-revolver? Perhaps the top revolver part uses high caliber / explosive rounds for armored / large targets, whilst the lower, belt-fed part is automatic and is used for lightly armored / numerous targets? The ejection port does appear to be under the revolver cylinder, though the gun does seem a bit small to have 2 barrels.
Some one asked if any loyalists use chain feed bolt guns. YES TDA Chaplain and some LotD are modeled with belt feed ammo hoppers. The question I have is why a hammer and not a charging handle?
Ghaz wrote: A duardin pistol would look more like the rifle that the Cogsmith carries, with a wooden grip and dwarven runes. This has none of the elements that makes it feel dwarvish to me.
No idea how reliable they are, but rumours about a fallen DA and/or the Lion release keep popping up. Either could make use of a ornate older style of bolt pistol.
BrookM wrote:There are only two poses acceptable for a future Cypher model..
Guns blazing
Spoiler:
He's one of the few gunslinger characters out there, suggesting him not going about guns akimbo would be a crime against this guy.
Thing is, the gun is holstered. So this would mean he is not using the gun and his hand is free for something else in his right hand. So if this bit is used it will not be for like the two beautiful pics you have shown.
Take the first picture/pose, but have one hand on the hilt of the sword, ready to draw it.
lord marcus wrote: Is anyone else concerned the fall of cadia means all cadian models will be invalidated?
Not really. Cadia gear is one of the most copied in all the Imperium, Some regiments are special snowflakes like the Vostroyans, Tallarn, etc., but the vast majority look like Cadians.
lord marcus wrote: Is anyone else concerned the fall of cadia means all cadian models will be invalidated?
Not really. Cadia gear is one of the most copied in all the Imperium, Some regiments are special snowflakes like the Vostroyans, Tallarn, etc., but the vast majority look like Cadians.
lord marcus wrote: Is anyone else concerned the fall of cadia means all cadian models will be invalidated?
Models generally can't be invalidated. Wargear might come and go, squad or army composition may change...and the occasional special character is off'ed, but even if they re-do the entire Imperial Guard (and I hope they do) it means absolutely nothing. You still have Imperial Guard models. I can see it being a pain if you were in the middle of constructing a force, but there is a shed-load of Cadian plastic out there in shops, on eBay etc.
lord marcus wrote: Is anyone else concerned the fall of cadia means all cadian models will be invalidated?
Models generally can't be invalidated. Wargear might come and go, squad or army composition may change...and the occasional special character is off'ed, but even if they re-do the entire Imperial Guard (and I hope they do) it means absolutely nothing. You still have Imperial Guard models. I can see it being a pain if you were in the middle of constructing a force, but there is a shed-load of Cadian plastic out there in shops, on eBay etc.
Also a good point. Repurposing is a useful concept.
Of the renowned Cadian Astra Militarum regiments, the Guard’s famed ‘Shock Troops’, it is lamentable that several regiments were lost in the strategic retrograde-advance from Cadia. However, with around 90% of Cadia’s forces off-world on tours around the galaxy at any given time, and the estimated 14% increase in vengeance-induced effectiveness** of regiments whose home world has fallen to enemy forces in battle, we are pleased to report a net-gain to the Imperium’s fighting strength!
Of the renowned Cadian Astra Militarum regiments, the Guard’s famed ‘Shock Troops’, it is lamentable that several regiments were lost in the strategic retrograde-advance from Cadia. However, with around 90% of Cadia’s forces off-world on tours around the galaxy at any given time, and the estimated 14% increase in vengeance-induced effectiveness** of regiments whose home world has fallen to enemy forces in battle, we are pleased to report a net-gain to the Imperium’s fighting strength!
Lol that is a typical imperial propaganda if I ever saw one.
Not to mention fluffy, as the Cadian fluff always mentioned that one in ten soldiers would remain on Cadia, while the rest would be shipped off to die elsewhere.
BrookM wrote: Not to mention fluffy, as the Cadian fluff always mentioned that one in ten soldiers would remain on Cadia, while the rest would be shipped off to die elsewhere.
Regarding my previous guess, I would like to add plastic Sisters of Battle to the mix.
I know it isn't decked out in fleur-de-lis but something about the design of the pistol and the hammer suggests it could be the side arm of a Sister Superior or someone equally boss like.
Or failing that maybe the side arm of a Sister of Silence...
A sentient race of bolters. This one is a character, it's background story is that it's a pacifist (hence the holster) but will ultimately fight when it has to.
We later discover it had once shot a child, mistaking it for another bolter in the dark.
It also falls in love.
As much as I want it to be cypher, all the artwork I've seen has him use a bolt pistol with a clip, including the current model. I'm pretty sure it's 30/40k, but I can't place it. It's not quite spikey enough to be chaos, so my first thought was inquisition. Especially the belt buckle style fits inquisition, but even that doesn't quite hit me as correct. The pointed part of the hoslter is really weird. It seems a little on the thin side, so that would suggest a human equivalent model. I'm not entirely convinced it's not necromunda related. Or some other human subfaction in 40k. It also doesn't seem ornate enough to be considered a master crafted pistol (except fro the thinness and fancy holster maybe).
Hm. Ejector on the left, gun would be strapped on left leg. Handle reminds me of DE handle, but tip reminds me of old school marine launcher. There's also a adeptus mechanicus skitarii look to it. I am gonna have to say it's squats. There's a steampunkish vibe there. IMHO If it's not that, it's Chekhov's Gun.
krazynadechukr wrote: Hm. Ejector on the left, gun would be strapped on left leg. Handle reminds me of DE handle, but tip reminds me of old school marine launcher. There's also a adeptus mechanicus skitarii look to it. I am gonna have to say it's squats. There's a steampunkish vibe there. IMHO If it's not that, it's Chekhov's Gun.
krazynadechukr wrote: Hm. Ejector on the left, gun would be strapped on left leg. Handle reminds me of DE handle, but tip reminds me of old school marine launcher. There's also a adeptus mechanicus skitarii look to it. I am gonna have to say it's squats. There's a steampunkish vibe there. IMHO If it's not that, it's Chekhov's Gun.
The models mounted on swirly bs has got to stop. As insaniak said, when it becomes so much that it overtakes the miniature, then that's not a good thing.
I like 'em. I'll admit I'm having trouble making the first one out but over all I like 'em.
No 2 is best and with a cropping of the headpiece No 3 will be just as good. Assuming its £37 (disc,) like the Triumvirate box I may well buy my first Eldar models in decade or two.
notprop wrote: I like 'em. I'll admit I'm having trouble making the first one out but over all I like 'em.
No 2 is best and with a cropping of the headpiece No 3 will be just as good. Assuming its £37 (disc,) like the Triumvirate box I may well buy my first Eldar models in decade or two.
The third one may need to get rid of that spike. Dunno, I'm not liking it, it feels that contrasts too much with the rest of the model.
Just looked again and I'm really not sure that's the case. Looks to me like the vertical pairs each have identical bodies and tails, with only the middle pair having different heads.
Still, we can but wait and see what shows up on the sprues.
Honestly, the super-swirl Eldar looks kinda like the Fulgrim FW model to me, but not enough to make me want to buy it. The red Kabalite Eldar is pretty cool lookin' and I wouldn't mind getting if it was a separate kit. But the last one is just too... "royal" for my taste. Just too much flair and nonsense.
"These swift and deadly warriors are a new type of Stormcast Eternal – rangers, trackers and cavalrymen without compare. They are swift vengeance to the forces of Chaos, and the outriders and scouts of Sigmar’s armies. The models that are on the way make for an imposing army (and you may recognise a little piece of their kit from a previous Rumour Engine…)."
"These swift and deadly warriors are a new type of Stormcast Eternal – rangers, trackers and cavalrymen without compare. They are swift vengeance to the forces of Chaos, and the outriders and scouts of Sigmar’s armies. The models that are on the way make for an imposing army (and you may recognise a little piece of their kit from a previous Rumour Engine…)."
You realize that the link in your post doesn't go to the same pic Ghaz posted, right?
"These swift and deadly warriors are a new type of Stormcast Eternal – rangers, trackers and cavalrymen without compare. They are swift vengeance to the forces of Chaos, and the outriders and scouts of Sigmar’s armies. The models that are on the way make for an imposing army (and you may recognise a little piece of their kit from a previous Rumour Engine…)."
The bit you will recognise is the big crossbow thing on the stripy animal not the small pistol.
It is interesting that the very first image still has not been shown yet.
"These swift and deadly warriors are a new type of Stormcast Eternal – rangers, trackers and cavalrymen without compare. They are swift vengeance to the forces of Chaos, and the outriders and scouts of Sigmar’s armies. The models that are on the way make for an imposing army (and you may recognise a little piece of their kit from a previous Rumour Engine…)."
Nicorex wrote: A Terminator Psychic Hood but the looks of it.
Yup. One of the easier ones to guess. Wonder if it is anyone famous. There is already a pretty good terminator librarian in plastic.
Edit looking at the various librarian minis, I am going to guess grey knight terminator special character.
The right side seems to have a cape of some sort.
But if it's TDA - where are the pauldrons? Where is its right arm?
The left side has some kind of shoulder thing..
Is there a one-armed TDA wearing Librarian in the lore? Oo
Thairne wrote: The right side seems to have a cape of some sort.
But if it's TDA - where are the pauldrons? Where is its right arm?
The left side has some kind of shoulder thing..
Is there a one-armed TDA wearing Librarian in the lore? Oo
Thairne wrote: The right side seems to have a cape of some sort.
But if it's TDA - where are the pauldrons? Where is its right arm?
The left side has some kind of shoulder thing..
Is there a one-armed TDA wearing Librarian in the lore? Oo
More likely it's just part of the kit and isn't assembled...
Anyway, lack of spikey bits makes it likely a loyalist kit.
It is somewhat strange however that the "box" around the head is missing as Indominus usually has.
Looking at several other marks, they all have that box.
Apart from the cape this bit is exactly identical to the psychic hood on one of the plastic Grey Knight Terminators, even down to the configuration of those cord thingies.
MadCowCrazy wrote: Had a look at GWs site and it seems everyone has access to a librarian.
So my guess is it's another pointless special character or perhaps a librarian kit similar to the captain kit which would also be pointless...
Except, y'know, if you happen to like the character or model and appreciate multiple choices when picking models for your army.
You pretty much point out the problem, you either like the special character or you don't. Our club doesn't play with SC because they sort of ruin the game because they are usually pretty unbalanced.
So if you had the choice between a new kit for an army or 2 special characters for that army. A new kit is something everyone can use, special characters not so much.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't like GW wasting time making SC when they could use the same time to make kits for armies instead.
The grey knights do not currently have a plastic hq (the only marine faction which does not) or a start collecting box. I could see them featuring in another death masque style box set.
Had a look in the GK codex and this is the pic in the Librarian entry. I don't recognize the model, and I didn't find it on GWs site with a quick glance. Do you make it from the GK terminator box?
The rumour pic doesn't seem to be terminator armour though, there is a SM Librarian already that's not in Terminator Armour. So I'm guessing this is a special character of some sort.
How many End Times books were there? 5 right? And one of them, from what I recall, didn't actually have a miniature release (the one that dealt with the Aelfâ„¢ storyline). I doubt we'll get a repeat of a mini-less book, so 4 seems like a good number.
Chikout wrote: The grey knights do not currently have a plastic hq (the only marine faction which does not) or a start collecting box. I could see them featuring in another death masque style box set.
Technically, the Grey Knights have the plastic Librarian in Terminator Armor and the plastic Power Armor Librarian.
Those two models were done that way to allow them to be maximum faction spreadage.
Well they can reboot the Tau and say that due to the 13th Black Crusade Tau spread throughout the galaxy and became something more than a flashy afterthought, thereby giving them a reason to be involved more often rather than GW always having to find reasons to duck over to the tiny little spec of the galaxy where the Blueberries hang out.
And they can use that opportunity to rebrand them as the T'auâ„¢ Aempireâ„¢.
Ynneadwraith wrote: Question is, will they neglect other factions that don't really have much of a shoe in this fight (or rather, don't fit a Triumvirate as well).
Tau, Tyranids, Necrons.
Or will they do a weird 'oh yeah, these guys were here too' book...
I can see there being a parallel story going on with the Nid invasion that was started with Shield of Baal, forcing the Imperium to fight at two fronts.
How many End Times books were there? 5 right? And one of them, from what I recall, didn't actually have a miniature release (the one that dealt with the Aelfâ„¢ storyline). I doubt we'll get a repeat of a mini-less book, so 4 seems like a good number.
This is probably part of the Space Marine box.
End Times: Khaine didn't get models, which was kinda/sorta making sense since it basically just was new army lists for combined Elf armies. Still bugged the hell out of me that they didn't update Tyrion, Teclis, or Malekith...buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut we know why now.
Ynneadwraith wrote:Question is, will they neglect other factions that don't really have much of a shoe in this fight (or rather, don't fit a Triumvirate as well).
Tau, Tyranids, Necrons.
Or will they do a weird 'oh yeah, these guys were here too' book...
We don't know where Celestine's Crusade has ended up after taking a jaunt through the Webway. With the Eldar being a part of this, every faction can and will probably show up.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Well they can reboot the Tau and say that due to the 13th Black Crusade Tau spread throughout the galaxy and became something more than a flashy afterthought, thereby giving them a reason to be involved more often rather than GW always having to find reasons to duck over to the tiny little spec of the galaxy where the Blueberries hang out.
I think it's rather telling that the way Mont'ka ended was with Farsight headed back to his Enclaves and having to deal with a Tyranid threat on par with the one that the Imperium fought at Ultramar.
Ynneadwraith wrote: Question is, will they neglect other factions that don't really have much of a shoe in this fight (or rather, don't fit a Triumvirate as well).
Tau, Tyranids, Necrons.
Or will they do a weird 'oh yeah, these guys were here too' book...
I can see there being a parallel story going on with the Nid invasion that was started with Shield of Baal, forcing the Imperium to fight at two fronts.
Yeah that's what I'm hoping for too. Big campaign involving Tau, 'nids, Orks, Necrons and probably Ultramarines too because it wouldn't be a GW release without at least one SM faction.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I am calling plastic Draigo. Someone on War of Sigmar suggested Stern as well.
I'm going for Librarian Ezekiel of the DA, in Cataphractii Armor.
I would be okay with this, but it is an Indomitus Pattern back, not a Cataphractii Pattern back. It certainly could just be a new Terminator Librarian, but where is the fun in that?
There is a robe or cape extending off the right shoulder, which could correspond to Draigo or Stern's capes.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I am calling plastic Draigo. Someone on War of Sigmar suggested Stern as well.
I'm going for Librarian Ezekiel of the DA, in Cataphractii Armor.
I would be okay with this, but it is an Indomitus Pattern back, not a Cataphractii Pattern back. It certainly could just be a new Terminator Librarian, but where is the fun in that?
It's not a complete model. All we got was a tiny bit of it.
What sets Cataphractii and Indomitus apart? The widened back and the shoulderplates. If you built the Cataphractii Captain from GW, there's definitely a way that it could be done in such a way.
I'm still going for Ezekiel in TDA though. Between the gunslinger pistol and the hintings in FoC about a lone black-armored Astartes getting a relic from inside of an Inquisitorial fortress' most secure vault...
I'm thinking the third book might have Cypher, Ezekiel, Belial, and Azrael with the latter all in TDA.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I am calling plastic Draigo. Someone on War of Sigmar suggested Stern as well.
I'm going for Librarian Ezekiel of the DA, in Cataphractii Armor.
I would be okay with this, but it is an Indomitus Pattern back, not a Cataphractii Pattern back. It certainly could just be a new Terminator Librarian, but where is the fun in that?
It's not a complete model. All we got was a tiny bit of it.
What sets Cataphractii and Indomitus apart? The widened back and the shoulderplates. If you built the Cataphractii Captain from GW, there's definitely a way that it could be done in such a way.
I'm still going for Ezekiel in TDA though. Between the gunslinger pistol and the hintings in FoC about a lone black-armored Astartes getting a relic from inside of an Inquisitorial fortress' most secure vault...
I'm thinking the third book might have Cypher, Ezekiel, Belial, and Azrael with the latter all in TDA.
Indomitus has the sort of T shape with vents on either side, which is what this piece displays. Cataphractii has a generator with tubes coming out. If it is Belial, that would make sense as well. Dude should going after Cypher like nothing else right now. I agree that Cypher is almost definitely going to get a new model (which makes the fact I just bought him REALLY irritating, but also par for the course. Happened to me with Devastators and Assault as well).
Nicorex wrote:A Terminator Psychic Hood but the looks of it.
That was my first guess then I thought about Tryzn (spelling) the Necron that has his collection. But no seeing the pic of Drago, is there any doubt now, Unless Tryzn has that in his collection.
I can see it now... GKs come to save the day but the only way to do so is to slaughter Celestine and coat their armour and weapons in her blood to protect themselves from some chaos taint...
Probably clammed up when it wasn't on the list for Feb. I swear they're coming, but getting a reliable rumor monger to say when is like trying to catch a greased up ferret in a ball pit
Since they're about to release a new Lord of Change, it would make perfect sense for this to be a re-done Brother-Captain Stern, given who (or rather, what), his arch-enemy is.
Hmm, in all likelihood it's draigo or some other GK character due to the configuration of those cables being exactly the same as draigos current cables. But that woudl seem surprsingly obvious compared to previous leaks and that left shoulder looks a bit weird and what's the deal with that concave shoulder on the right where the arm would connect to?
It's a Squat character in Exo-armor with a psychic hood just so they can prove it's the End Times by bringing back the Squats (well, at least one of them)
It would be nice if it was a customisable Grand Master kit, as we have never actually had one for GK.
Highly doubt it but could be either of the two culled GK characters: Grand Master Mordrak or Justiciar Thawn.
dan2026 wrote: What exactly happened to those Sisters of Battle rumours that every rumourmeister and there dog was shouting about not too long ago?
We are almost in February and I've heard nothing.
Mght be mistaken, but I don't think we'll get any release other than special characters until 8th edition hit (New editions are traditionnally in june IIRC)
I'm going with an Astartes Triumvirate with the following characters:
New plastic Dante
New plastic Draigo
Redone plastic Emperor's Champion. (Or, alternatively, new Plastic Azrael)
I say the Emperor's champ as the last one because the Templars were featured in the Fall of Cadia I, and the current Emp's Champ model has a holstered bolt pistol on his leg. The model has been around a long time, and the new pistol teaser shown would, to me anyway, make sense to give the Champ. It's an old school heresy era relic bolt pistol given as wargear along with the Black Sword once he's chosen as the champion.
It would also lead nicely to one of the loyalist Primarchs returning being Rogal Dorn as was alluded to by a point regarding Trayzn having a "Massive man in golden power armor" in his tessaract vaults.
That's my take on it. May be completely off base, but it would be a way to give two or three of the non standard book marines something nice in the form of updated Lords of War that other Imperial armies could potentially have some fun with.
MadCowCrazy wrote: Had a look at GWs site and it seems everyone has access to a librarian.
So my guess is it's another pointless special character or perhaps a librarian kit similar to the captain kit which would also be pointless...
Except, y'know, if you happen to like the character or model and appreciate multiple choices when picking models for your army.
You pretty much point out the problem, you either like the special character or you don't. Our club doesn't play with SC because they sort of ruin the game because they are usually pretty unbalanced.
So if you had the choice between a new kit for an army or 2 special characters for that army. A new kit is something everyone can use, special characters not so much.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't like GW wasting time making SC when they could use the same time to make kits for armies instead.
Nice looking stuff sells and no-one cares about your local clubs' house rules. Most people can figure out how to use a SC model for a generic character as well. I personally don't like using SC, but I enjoy the painting models and still manage to use them in my own games as generic/my own characters. Given that GK have no plastic HQ, it's far from pointless.
That last one is probably something for the Steamhead Duardin; seems quite steampunky to me.
Oh, and that psychic hood is definitely for a Grey Knight (or an Inquisitor wearing a GK style armour.) Normal terminator armours don't look like that. Terminator librarian's psychic hood is not visible from behind.
That's standard boat/submarine style door closure gear there. Not sure why the activation gear is so offset from the pivot though?
Maybe the crew are quite short…
You know I was going to say the same thing. It looks like a submarine door hatch. There is also that unresolved fish hook rumor. THat or a heavily stylized 40k airlock, but I think the submarine door looks more likely.
You don't suppose we'll see Duradin and some sort of fishmen right? Or aquatic themed Dwarves? Which... is way cooler sounding now that I think about it and a natural fit for them with the whole underground tunnels thing.
My guess would be a mechanically pivoting turret or sponsons on a duardin steam tank.
The whole thing looks plesantly robust and symetricaly reinforced.
Would be cool though if it was a clocktower scenery piece to manifest the rule of order (mechanism) and a new era (of sigmar) now that the stormcast start to reclaim a piece of the universe.
I kind of liked the rumored idea of airborne dwarfs living in the sky in bioshock steampunk columbia esque types cities. With AoS they can really do anything with the new steamhead duardin faction, I hope they don't waste the opportunity.
Mr_Rose wrote: That's standard boat/submarine style door closure gear there. Not sure why the activation gear is so offset from the pivot though?
Maybe the crew are quite short…
Was that "boat-hook" from earlier ever revealed?
Could tie-in to the Steamhead putting the ship in airship.
They seem to just show random stuff, I believe about half they have shown hasn't been revealed yet. Perhaps this is aoart of the Duardin brass thing from long ago.
Do wish they would just reveal stuff and just say coming soon instead of trying to show obscure crap
Rippy wrote: please be inquisitor, and not Draigo.
I'd much rather Draigo or another Grey knight. Inquisitors need a full multipart kit to cover many if not all the various wargear options they can take.
Rippy wrote: please be inquisitor, and not Draigo.
I'd much rather Draigo or another Grey knight. Inquisitors need a full multipart kit to cover many if not all the various wargear options they can take.
The bolt pistol has been confirmed as being Cypher's. For more information look at Gathering storm's thread. Page 68, big image with rawbutt gorillaman on it.
I can't help but lean toward AoS Duardin. In conjunction with the one or two other hints that havent been shown yet that were also kind of mechy, I think it makes sense.
I love how every time a new "hint" is given, several people post "Dwarves, gotta be Dwarves. Duradin inbound"
Yet so far ZERO have been Duradin. Are Duradin rumored to have a release soon? Or does everything 40K that is remotely "steam-punk" automatically invoke the "dwarves" response?
Looking at the silver "bearings" near the top of the image I detect a trace of the striation that un-cleaned/un-smoothed 3-d master prints sometimes have. See that on a lot of stuff (dystopian wars springs immediately to mind) but I think its the first I've noticed on GW stuff.
Cataphract wrote: Look at the color scheme of this new one, the harpoon thingy, and the very first teaser. All very brass and coppery or that blue glow stuff.
The first one didn't have "blue glow stuff".
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The bottom two definitely share similarities beyond the metal coloration, but even then some of it can be coincidental (the blue on the gem for the spear v the "orbs" on the last just being the case of blue gem v energy collection).
Literally the only thing we reasonably believe is Duardin is the first preview, as there is what appears to be a Duardin ancestor rune on the casing of whatever it is.
Cataphract wrote: Look at the color scheme of this new one, the harpoon thingy, and the very first teaser. All very brass and coppery or that blue glow stuff.
The first one didn't have "blue glow stuff".
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The bottom two definitely share similarities beyond the metal coloration, but even then some of it can be coincidental (the blue on the gem for the spear v the "orbs" on the last just being the case of blue gem v energy collection).
Literally the only thing we reasonably believe is Duardin is the first preview, as there is what appears to be a Duardin ancestor rune on the casing of whatever it is.
I feel with the latest we can confirm based off of our known impressions on how the Steamhead S will be. They have been described as a "Mechanized" army in the first teaser waaaaaay back in the AOS primer campaign book.this latest item seems to follow that as I spy a it has several components: a drill attachment, the center part seems to be several cylinders, and it gives off a kind of Tesla or Clockwork vibe.
I feel with the latest we can confirm based off of our known impressions on how the Steamhead S will be. They have been described as a "Mechanized" army in the first teaser waaaaaay back in the AOS primer campaign book.this latest item seems to follow that as I spy a it has several components: a drill attachment, the center part seems to be several cylinders, and it gives off a kind of Tesla or Clockwork vibe.
Literally the only thing we know about the (name dropped later) Steamhead Duardin from that book is that they're within Chamon. Grungni gathered his scattered folk and established the Iron Karak.
Grimnir strode alone to the Hills of Aqshy and ended up doing battle with Vulcatrix, leading to him being scattered into flaming fragments.
Galef wrote: I love how every time a new "hint" is given, several people post "Dwarves, gotta be Dwarves. Duradin inbound"
Yet so far ZERO have been Duradin. Are Duradin rumored to have a release soon? Or does everything 40K that is remotely "steam-punk" automatically invoke the "dwarves" response?
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The very first teaser is 100% dwarf and it's clearly a big steampunk machine. That's why we've been waiting for dwarfs since day 1 and why anything steampunk machine-y makes us think dwarfs.
Galef wrote: I love how every time a new "hint" is given, several people post "Dwarves, gotta be Dwarves. Duradin inbound"
Yet so far ZERO have been Duradin. Are Duradin rumored to have a release soon? Or does everything 40K that is remotely "steam-punk" automatically invoke the "dwarves" response?
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They're rumoured yeah. And none so far that have been revealed have been Duardin, but there's still some accounted for, including one that has a dwarf like face on it.