I hope that instead of a big monster or named character, Steamhead just get a massive airship that's bigger than a Dragon and bristling with guns and armedcrew. Would be a good shakeup from the current aesthetic (which I like, but change is cool).
I get that. it is just odd that so many of the rumour engine hints have been revealed to either be 40K, with only 1-2 AoS so far. It is also odd that a few hints are still waiting that have been out for longer than the hints that have been revealed.
eohall wrote: Looking at the silver "bearings" near the top of the image I detect a trace of the striation that un-cleaned/un-smoothed 3-d master prints sometimes have. See that on a lot of stuff (dystopian wars springs immediately to mind) but I think its the first I've noticed on GW stuff.
I noticed the same thing, But in this case it would be tooling lines rather than an uncleaned 3d print (unless this is a studio painted print done during the models development to see how it works as a physical kit) as the tooling for a plastic mould would all be done straight from a digital file.
It's presence tell us that this is a pretty small part since you only ever really see this on GW kits in small curved or conical areas.
(And you're right, you see it alot on the resin models of smaller companies as they cast straight from an unaltered print to try and keep supply steady.Spartan might be the worst for it.)
Galef wrote: I love how every time a new "hint" is given, several people post "Dwarves, gotta be Dwarves. Duradin inbound"
Yet so far ZERO have been Duradin. Are Duradin rumored to have a release soon? Or does everything 40K that is remotely "steam-punk" automatically invoke the "dwarves" response?
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And except Cawl ZERO have been AdMech. Besides, the "Steam-punk" look of the mechanicum has a different color palette and look than this one.
Galef wrote: I love how every time a new "hint" is given, several people post "Dwarves, gotta be Dwarves. Duradin inbound" -
It's how they do market research.
Exec 1: "What should be make next?"
Exec 2: "No clue. What do these nerds want, anyway?"
Exec 1: "I have an idea so crazy, It. Just. Might. Work. You, web boy. Post a rotated picture of a random bit from something that is coming out soon. And make it out of focus."
Web Guy: "Ok, then."
4 days later.
Web Guy "Sir, nearly 80% of the guesses are for dwarves."
Exec 1 picks up phone: "Sculpting team? Yes. Give me dwarves. How many? All of them!"
I realize that there are probably no rumors pointing in this direction, but the bit in the background of that shot really reminds me of an Ork kustom force field generator. Not convinced that the rest of it fits the Ork aesthetic but that's where my mind goes.
theocracity wrote: I realize that there are probably no rumors pointing in this direction, but the bit in the background of that shot really reminds me of an Ork kustom force field generator. Not convinced that the rest of it fits the Ork aesthetic but that's where my mind goes.
Ork Triumvirate? A model and rules for Orkimedes at last? Sounds like a plan to me…
I'm still calling large duardin steam/lightening powered golem.
LordShaft.
Yep.
The first Rumour Engine was clearly a Dwarfen construction of some kind, as you saw the classic Ancestor Face. The big spear thing? I'm not sure that's Dwarven myself, as it's not an army I usually associate with the spear.
The door? Shape and simplicity of the piece suggest Dwarfen to me as well - if it was Mechanicus, I'd expect far more embellishment.
And this? Sure, it has common design cues to the Phosphor Pistol - but the rest of it doesn't look especially Mechanicus. Bottled Lightning also riffs off Seraphon and Stormcast...
eohall wrote: Looking at the silver "bearings" near the top of the image I detect a trace of the striation that un-cleaned/un-smoothed 3-d master prints sometimes have. See that on a lot of stuff (dystopian wars springs immediately to mind) but I think its the first I've noticed on GW stuff.
I noticed the same thing, But in this case it would be tooling lines rather than an uncleaned 3d print (unless this is a studio painted print done during the models development to see how it works as a physical kit) as the tooling for a plastic mould would all be done straight from a digital file.
It's presence tell us that this is a pretty small part since you only ever really see this on GW kits in small curved or conical areas.
(And you're right, you see it alot on the resin models of smaller companies as they cast straight from an unaltered print to try and keep supply steady.Spartan might be the worst for it.)
People who have talked to the painting teams at events have been told the figures in more recent books are 3D prints. This came out with the last 8th edition Dwarf book because people were accusing the painters of being sloppy due to the appearance of a "finger print" on one of the new dwarf figures.
The paint studio starts working on the figs while the molds are still being produced. They actually produced some some small scale Mawcrushers for the paint studio to develop paint schemes for the AoS Ironjaws. They were on display at a Warhammer World open event and led initially to speculation of a new version of Warmaster.
This is a really confusing one. For a start it could easily be from (nearly) any range they do which doesn't help. However, the confusing part is the colour. It looks more like FW resin than GW plastic, but there are quite obvious print lines from the 3D printer GW uses to print their CAD miniatures (look at the lower skull), whereas FW does theirs all by hand at the scale they mould at.
tarar2d2 wrote: This is a really confusing one. For a start it could easily be from (nearly) any range they do which doesn't help. However, the confusing part is the colour. It looks more like FW resin than GW plastic, but there are quite obvious print lines from the 3D printer GW uses to print their CAD miniatures (look at the lower skull), whereas FW does theirs all by hand at the scale they mould at.
I'm 100% convinced this is FW resin. FW doesn't do everything by traditional hand sculpting these days. I think I'm right in saying that the Solar Auxilia range was the first that are entirely CAD in FW's catalogue. It's also the case that, if you look very closely at the Solar Auxilia, you can make out the print lines on some surfaces. The cost of 3D printing depends a lot on the resolution you print at. What a lot of companies do, is use a fairly low quality print and then do lots of manual clean up. FW seems to take the route of doing a very high quality print, which then doesn't need cleaning up by resculpting spoiled details. So, there are a few (barely) visible print lines in some areas, but not enough to be a problem.
tarar2d2 wrote: This is a really confusing one. For a start it could easily be from (nearly) any range they do which doesn't help. However, the confusing part is the colour. It looks more like FW resin than GW plastic, but there are quite obvious print lines from the 3D printer GW uses to print their CAD miniatures (look at the lower skull), whereas FW does theirs all by hand at the scale they mould at.
I'm pretty sure FW uses 3d printing.
Both companies would produce prototypes using the same techniques, so this doesn't get us any closer to figuring out what that thing is.
This is forsure a 3D printed Prototype. So maby a new Resin/finecast Character mini from GW? The object looks embeded into a mass of.... something.....
So could be some sort of undead construct for AoS or like other people said a Base. It could also be terrain.
The front sort of looks like material is bent away from the skull thingie, like pierced armour. A couple of years ago I would've guessed "battle damaged Fantasy cybot", but nowadays GW makes far sharper blades. Unless it's a tiny, skull-encrusted dagger.
But tgis whole post is just a front for me saying: I would have been all over a range of made to order small scale prints of monsters. The new gribblies are all way too big to paint or transport well. A tiny Warboss going with a tiny Maw Crusha would've been so cute to boot. Or not. At half scale he'd still be close to a regular Ork in size, wouldn't he
Could simply be base decoration - which blows it wide open. Could be mounted on somethings back, which might suggest Death getting some love at long last.
But.....is it just me, or does look more like resin than plastic?
Lockark wrote: A lot of the terrain now is made in China, so terrain could explain why we have a 3D print for a preview. The final product isn't being done in house.
Games Workshop terrain is garbage now for the price they charge for it now. Really bad quality for a premium product. Their bases are really substandard and definitely not GW quality.
MajorTom11 wrote: Dwarf possibly too. Or duardin or whatever tf they are called now lol.
Duardin is the name of the race. Steamheads are an as yet unseen subfaction. Fyreslayers are the ones we've seen.
Some Duardin, neither Steamheads or Fyreslayers (as far as we know) are part of a faction called the "Ironweld Arsenal" which consists of Humans and Duardin.
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Brother SRM wrote: I'm guessing Ork. The strap on the O-ring and the dinged up metal plate are typical Ork design elements.
I'm thinking you're right. Or it could be an Ogre.
Ooooh. Something I just thought of is the Genestealer Cultist Aberrants. We still don't have a kit for them, aside from the Deathwatch Overkill set.
Not Ork/Orruk; they don't do circles.
I'm thinking undead; specifically a bit of tack or a broach that was pristine when it was buried with its wearer but has since gotten dinged up by the passage of ages. And also being forced out of the ground by dark magics.
New Chaos Warrior kit - for whatever god awful name they've drummed up for them. The circular shoulder-join plate is a pretty iconic piece of the older ones. Maybe some guys to support the new resin Slambo, etc.
One of the ork bikers has a plate very much like that on his back. The robes hanging on rings and the chain holding armour together are also both orkish elements. I am going for warbuggy or Wartrakk driver.
Orks have a bunch of these on their backs, but what new model could they really even use? Now sure on dwarf cause it seems a little too sloppy for them. Probably Ork or Ogre.
Chikout wrote: One of the ork bikers has a plate very much like that on his back. The robes hanging on rings and the chain holding armour together are also both orkish elements. I am going for warbuggy or Wartrakk driver.
However awesome that would be, I still get more of an AoS vibe from this one. Probably Orruk, possibly Skaven or Chaos.
Dark Angel "Fallen" is my guess. Dinged and bashed up after 10,000 years fighting in the galactic hinterlands, remnants of their caliban knight armour/cloak/monk robes and clasp etc.
Nuclear Mekanik wrote: Dark Angel "Fallen" is my guess. Dinged and bashed up after 10,000 years fighting in the galactic hinterlands, remnants of their caliban knight armour/cloak/monk robes and clasp etc.
Fallen would not be wearing the bone white armor since that was adopted after the Fallen broke away.
Nuclear Mekanik wrote: Dark Angel "Fallen" is my guess. Dinged and bashed up after 10,000 years fighting in the galactic hinterlands, remnants of their caliban knight armour/cloak/monk robes and clasp etc.
Fallen would not be wearing the bone white armor since that was adopted after the Fallen broke away.
Someone at warofsigmar colored it. That isn't the actual paint job.
Nuclear Mekanik wrote: Dark Angel "Fallen" is my guess. Dinged and bashed up after 10,000 years fighting in the galactic hinterlands, remnants of their caliban knight armour/cloak/monk robes and clasp etc.
Fallen would not be wearing the bone white armor since that was adopted after the Fallen broke away.
Someone at warofsigmar colored it. That isn't the actual paint job.
There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Perfect Organism wrote: There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Going with that and some comments in the past from Atia, I'm going to say that they're Pestigors.
Perfect Organism wrote: There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Going with that and some comments in the past from Atia, I'm going to say that they're Pestigors.
Perfect Organism wrote: There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Going with that and some comments in the past from Atia, I'm going to say that they're Pestigors.
Perfect Organism wrote: There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Going with that and some comments in the past from Atia, I'm going to say that they're Pestigors.
You know what?
It actually makes a kind of sense. We never got a Battletome for Rotbringers, and Disciples of Tzeentch had Tzaangors in there too.
Perfect Organism wrote: There's clearly chainmail in there. That's pretty rare in 40k, so I'm leaning towards AoS. Battle damage makes any of the Order factions unlikely, but it's difficult to narrow it down further. I'm leaning towards a chaos warrior of nurgle, since the round thing looks a lot like besagues seen on previous chaos warriors, mail is most likely to be seen on chaos warriors, undead or orrucks and nurgle or slaanesh seem like they should expect some new releases soon (and it looks a lot more like what I would expect from nurgle than slaanesh).
Going with that and some comments in the past from Atia, I'm going to say that they're Pestigors.
You know what?
It actually makes a kind of sense. We never got a Battletome for Rotbringers, and Disciples of Tzeentch had Tzaangors in there too.
Would be easy conversion fodder for nurgle rotters bloodbowl.
Considering its being attacked by a bloodthirster, a usually airborne unit...it's probably a flying contraption. I'm kind of glad as that is what I was hoping for since the original dwarf image was shown.
If they want to give AoS its own particularly unique identity they have to go away from the more stereotypical depiction of dwarfs. And this could work out well, definitely could end up being my first AoS army I try to collect in any serious way.
It would make since, if the time line advanced, dwarfs would advance in their tech.
I really feel AoS is making races look really individual. The Wood Aelves in particular are a good example. Wood Aelves in the old world looked just like dark Aelves or High Aelves just painted different. Now they feel more feral and back to the wild.
I would be ok with Dwarfs looking less dwarf and more steam punk
...Now if we'll just get some updated Seraphon models with them all decked out in crazy Aztec style garb rather than just running around with just their scales to keep them modest!
I'd wagger it's an airship, considering that the campaign books mention the sight of sparks on chamon's cloud mines (places with an obscene amount of dusty metal floating around where you can form nuggets of metal just be closing your palms and tightening the grip.)
Looks Undeady. But also Tyranidy. Possibly Space Wolfy. Immediate thought? Board tile for Quest - but having just had Hammerhal, seems too much to hope for.
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It kind of looks like book art, but the more I look at it, the more I'm convinced it's definitely a dungeon tile type thing - definite flagstones etc, and I can't see why such would be in a general illustration.
I'm just hoping this means more attention for Death. I'm a Order only player and really feel spoiled this year, Nagash needs his turn in the spotlight.
I suspect if WHQ continues to sell well you'll see a load of expansions. It's dead easy to photoshop up some floor tiles and assemble a small pamphlet with rules - toss in some plastic minis and hit the print button. If you get people excited about it and they spend $60-80 a dozen times you've done well.
For me, Quest is pretty much them printing munneh.
Provided they manage to avoid model repitition, I'll keep on buying whatever they put out.
That said, provided the heroes are kept new, I'm not adverse to having increasing numbers of random rank and file stuff - the more of those I gather to me, the more dungeons I can easily design and populate.
Doesn't look like Blood Bowl or WHQ, it lacks any defined white/black lines to make up squares. I'm thinking this is a tile for a new game, or something we haven't heard of yet.
While my first thought was "sewer" too , it could just as likely be a window, like a medieval prison cell window kind of thing. It could be 40k but the sector imperialis also has sewer grates which look nothing like this.Though, personally, I find the sector makes no sense, not even as a pedestrian zone, never mind as a road so perhaps they're making alternative terrain.
I'm looking forward to these - if that snippet is owt to go by, then much like the Sylvaneth, they won't wind up a million miles away from their predecessors on the World That Was.
Theophony wrote: Abbaddon outside his terminator armor with his pet hamydra.
Abbaddon's back-scracther/toilet paper (he uses one tool for both). Millenia inside that armor is murder on the skin, and that Talon doesn't make a great body tool, he learned after the first time.
The two limb design does have a Slaaneshi vibe to it. A winged Steed would most likely look like that.
Yeah, but so would any number of the "Spites" that are in the Sylvaneth/Wood Elf kits when painted dark grey.
Honestly, it looks more like some of the designs for "Evil Fairies" that got done for the Dark Elf zones in Warhammer Online than it does anything Slaaneshi.
Vorian wrote: Silver Tower has two shadow Aelves, Hastings has been talking about Cthulu type shadow Aelves coming and to be shown off at Adepticon
Pretty sure this is a shadow Aelf
Shadowkin.
We've known their name since the launch of Age of Sigmar. They get namedropped in Fyreslayers as well, with one of the Lodges having been influenced by their style of fighting(hit and fade).
Vorian wrote: Silver Tower has two shadow Aelves, Hastings has been talking about Cthulu type shadow Aelves coming and to be shown off at Adepticon
Pretty sure this is a shadow Aelf
Shadowkin.
We've known their name since the launch of Age of Sigmar. They get namedropped in Fyreslayers as well, with one of the Lodges having been influenced by their style of fighting(hit and fade).
It is possible their names have changed since then.
Red Slayers to Fyreslayers.
Steamhead to Kharadron Overlords.
Vorian wrote: Silver Tower has two shadow Aelves, Hastings has been talking about Cthulu type shadow Aelves coming and to be shown off at Adepticon
Pretty sure this is a shadow Aelf
Shadowkin.
We've known their name since the launch of Age of Sigmar. They get namedropped in Fyreslayers as well, with one of the Lodges having been influenced by their style of fighting(hit and fade).
It is possible their names have changed since then.
Red Slayers to Fyreslayers.
Steamhead to Kharadron Overlords.
Aren't those their codenames? Much like MTG's blocks have crazy names until their reveal? E.g: Innistrad's block was named Shake - Rattle - Roll while in development.
Vorian wrote: Silver Tower has two shadow Aelves, Hastings has been talking about Cthulu type shadow Aelves coming and to be shown off at Adepticon
Pretty sure this is a shadow Aelf
Shadowkin.
We've known their name since the launch of Age of Sigmar. They get namedropped in Fyreslayers as well, with one of the Lodges having been influenced by their style of fighting(hit and fade).
It is possible their names have changed since then.
Red Slayers to Fyreslayers.
Steamhead to Kharadron Overlords.
Aren't those their codenames? Much like MTG's blocks have crazy names until their reveal? E.g: Innistrad's block was named Shake - Rattle - Roll while in development.
They were listed in the original Primer as such. It's possible Shadowkin has changed as well.
Neat. I would say I seen this coming, but I totally read hastings stuff like a month or two ago. So if anyone who read that didn't see this coming then... lol. So obvious.
Now what I want to know is. Are they going to be a flying raider race. The opposition in the skies to the Kharadron's? Exciting times for AoS.
Vorian wrote: Silver Tower has two shadow Aelves, Hastings has been talking about Cthulu type shadow Aelves coming and to be shown off at Adepticon
Pretty sure this is a shadow Aelf
Shadowkin.
We've known their name since the launch of Age of Sigmar. They get namedropped in Fyreslayers as well, with one of the Lodges having been influenced by their style of fighting(hit and fade).
It is possible their names have changed since then.
Red Slayers to Fyreslayers.
Steamhead to Kharadron Overlords.
Aren't those their codenames? Much like MTG's blocks have crazy names until their reveal? E.g: Innistrad's block was named Shake - Rattle - Roll while in development.
They were listed in the original Primer as such. It's possible Shadowkin has changed as well.
I sincerely doubt that.
Shadowkin have had multiple mentions since the main rulebook; Red Slayers and Steamhead didn't appear aside from one or two snippets.
Gamgee wrote: Neat. I would say I seen this coming, but I totally read hastings stuff like a month or two ago. So if anyone who read that didn't see this coming then... lol. So obvious.
Now what I want to know is. Are they going to be a flying raider race. The opposition in the skies to the Kharadron's? Exciting times for AoS.
Then they'll introduce a new ruleset for air battles. A supplement that would be what Skyes of Death wished tp be.
Battle of Trafalgayr when!? I want to field Kaptin' Orrakio Norcson!
Shadow Elves for sure, maybe the Cthulhu styled ones. Still hate that they call them Aelfs now, like really...add an A at the beginning and wow, not only does it look stupid when typed out but how do you even pronounce it anyways!
Thargrim wrote: Shadow Elves for sure, maybe the Cthulhu styled ones. Still hate that they call them Aelfs now, like really...add an A at the beginning and wow, not only does it look stupid when typed out but how do you even pronounce it anyways!
Thargrim wrote: Shadow Elves for sure, maybe the Cthulhu styled ones. Still hate that they call them Aelfs now, like really...add an A at the beginning and wow, not only does it look stupid when typed out but how do you even pronounce it anyways!
Elfs. Same as the thing with Ogors, it sounds about the same as the original pronunciation. It doesn't take a genius either.
At least one of the 40k Nurgle marines has chainmail and some round pieces on their armour which look like this, so I think it might be part of that release.
CMLR wrote: I still can't believe people dislike "Aelves" word and accuse it as stupid.
You know that "Æ" is an actual character and that was used for nordic people, who also happenend to be the "creators" of the word, right?
I will support you, and also say that Æ is the coolest character out there, only beaten by ⌬ and ⎃. Maybe ⎉.
So I support the use of Æ wherever possible. For my future dwarves, I hereby declare it's not aether, it's æther.
Oh, good catch! Are there any rumors of Nurgle getting updated in 40k?
CMLR wrote: I still can't believe people dislike "Aelves" word and accuse it as stupid.
You know that "Æ" is an actual character and that was used for nordic people, who also happenend to be the "creators" of the word, right?
I really like it because of that reason but on the other hand it's boring because it's still just elf. Now Aeldari or something else mystical sounding would've been a better idea for them. (IMO)
Which doesn't actually help them all that much. Wasn't it ruled acceptable to make any addon parts as you want as long as you include "compatible with GW's Imperial Guard line of miniatures" Having people change that text to say Astra Militarum seems less than worth it.
My guess is that the IP is worth more than the models. Or maybe that's what they're calculating. Rights to video games, movies what have you. Maybe?
oh and... the reason I searched this out was because I saw a Warhammer community link regarding 8th ed rumors. Looking for that discussion.... is that here or elsewhere?
Rumors like:
- bringing back the Movement Value per model
- no more initiative in the assualt?
- bonuses for all one race
- morale change to something like 5th/6th ed fearless.
That's basically all the Adepticon thread is right now.
Eldarain wrote: Which doesn't actually help them all that much. Wasn't it ruled acceptable to make any addon parts as you want as long as you include "compatible with GW's Imperial Guard line of miniatures" Having people change that text to say Astra Militarum seems less than worth it.
Well that's not the racial title change like in AoS. Imperial guard is to astra Militarum what space marine is to Adeptus Astartes. To apply AoS name changes you'd have human become humyn for example.
Besides IP it also helps differentiate the setting from others when someone's looking for information and models.
Only problem when you use foreign letters because "they look cool" is they aren't pronounced how you think they are. As a swede both Motörhead and Blue Öyster Cult sound ridiculous.
No, people don't dislike the spelling because of the spelling itself, they dislike the renaming, no matter what it is renamed to, because the reasons for the renaming are crap.
I quite like Aelf and Orruks myself. Duardin I haven't really adopted, they are still Dwarves like AM are still IG when I think of them.
That's meant to say Dwarfs, I hope? Otherwise this insulting misspelling of a proud races' name will go right into the book of grudges
I'm not fond of the renames myself and they probably hurt themselves with online searches. Searching for "Orc weapon compatible with GW Orruk Brutes" will show third party kits while searching for both "Orruk" and "Orc", but searching for "Orc", as most newcomers would probably do, won't show them GW's new range. But I don't have to call them that, just like I don't have to move my armies from their Old World settings in my mind. Who'll force me? And if they should fight agains AoS exclusive races or minis, well that was clearly just a dream the general was having
Vorian wrote: Dwarfs is worse than Duardin for me Dwarfs are things that live with snow white - Dwarves are things that cleave Goblin heads off
I am with you on that. And I refuse to call IG anything but IG.
People actually call them Astra Militarum? For real, I've not heard it said once from anyone but a GW employee
I could understand their motivation for the various name changes... if they offered any! If nothing else, their execution of the changes was pretty poor IMO.
Vorian wrote: Dwarfs is worse than Duardin for me Dwarfs are things that live with snow white - Dwarves are things that cleave Goblin heads off
I am with you on that. And I refuse to call IG anything but IG.
People actually call them Astra Militarum? For real, I've not heard it said once from anyone but a GW employee
I could understand their motivation for the various name changes... if they offered any! If nothing else, their execution of the changes was pretty poor IMO.
Given the name change occurred at the height of GW's Age of Darkness as part of its insane 'MAKE EVERYTHING COPYRIGHTABLEWJSWGJESGEHGIEG'... I'd be very surprised if within another two editions they don't just change it back to 'Imperial Guard'. They'll still use Astra Militarum for the High Gothic organisational charts the same way they do Adeptus Astartes, but everything from store branding to company talk will go back to the Guard.
I think even GW employees stopped trying to refer to them as Astra Militarum.
I quite like Aelf and Orruks myself. Duardin I haven't really adopted, they are still Dwarves like AM are still IG when I think of them.
You ain't tellin' me what to do, bruh.
I had TWO of those with me MY WHOLE LIFE. I can deal with this guys for days.
You realise what the two of you just did is worse right? At least a complaint is on topic, there's no reason you couldn't do this by PM.
And thankyou for dragging me down to your level to point it out. Now it's "we" are off topic. Let the back slapping commence.
Not all, just we.
I quite like Aelf and Orruks myself. Duardin I haven't really adopted, they are still Dwarves like AM are still IG when I think of them.
You ain't tellin' me what to do, bruh.
I had TWO of those with me MY WHOLE LIFE. I can deal with this guys for days.
You realise what the two of you just did is worse right? At least a complaint is on topic, there's no reason you couldn't do this by PM.
And thankyou for dragging me down to your level to point it out. Now it's "we" are off topic. Let the back slapping commence.
Not all, just we.
Are we really going to go through the whole Inception like multi level off topic to discover the whinging about AoS names was nothing to do with the topic either? Nor is 99% of the permawhinge?
But by all means pick posts in the middle of loads of off topic and tell us how terrible we are
Seriously, how on earth can you take "we" meaning ''myself and everyone who thinks the same' as "everyone, regardless of their opinion."
The same way they have been doing it since always? (like when Anti-AoS users said that everysingle person on earth hated it even with the GHB).
Vorian wrote: Are we really going to go through the whole Inception like multi level off topic to discover the whinging about AoS names was nothing to do with the topic either? Nor is 99% of the permawhinge?
But by all means pick posts in the middle of loads of off topic and tell us how terrible we are
I'm not telling anyone is terrible, but I will throw a bucket of fresh sense to chill out some guys if I can.
I don't actively promote topic deviation, but is not like we get more than one Rumour Engine per week, to be fair.
Seriously, how on earth can you take "we" meaning ''myself and everyone who thinks the same' as "everyone, regardless of their opinion."
The same way they have been doing it since always? (like when Anti-AoS users said that everysingle person on earth hated it even with the GHB).
Ah, so via pointless hyperbole. Gotcha.
Maybe not waste yours or (more importantly) everyone else's time in future with this sort of petty nitpicking? If one can demonstrate an opinion is held by more than one person, as has been done, then saying 'we' is perfectly acceptable.
Just checked out the first post and wanted to point out some stuff that has not been updated. The nagash face is from shadespire. You can see it on some of the boards used at the preview event.
The circle armour plate is from the Deathguard release.
That leaves 4 unsloved. The glowing thing is probably mechanicus. It very similar to the datasmith's back pack.
The recent one is almost certainly shadow Aelves. The other two are a mystery still.
BrookM wrote: Anchors digging into the ground, neat. What kind of monster or contraption could they be trying to hold back?
It looks more like it's meant to be dug into flesh, in my opinion.
Yea, the spikes on the left and right sides look more like fangs or tusks.
The spikes on the left and right sides of the metal bits look more like they're intended to be decorative for the flesh hooks rather than part of the beasty.
The more I look at it though, the more I think that this is definitely supposed to be something dug into the flesh of a critter. It's the kind of bit that would likely be optional between a dual kit build, where one variant can be "ridden" by someone or another can be it roaming free and nomnomming its way through the baddies.
Ossified wrote: You're all so close but it's a plough for the new Order faction Realmfarmers. The mod sprue for the steamtank is going to be agriculturtastic.
EnTyme wrote: Why is everyone assuming that everything faction is going to be sky pirates from now on?
Because the last release was sky pirates, and there have been mentions of other sky pirate factions in the lore.
There has been mention of one "sky pirate" faction, and that's the Grotbag Scuttlers introduced with the Kharadon Overlords.
Nothing about the Shadowkin("Shadow Aelves") made mention of "sky pirates". The closest thing would be the Scourge Privateers, but even then they're less "Sky Pirates" and more "Realm Privateers" as they travel the various realms, getting up to no good.
EnTyme wrote: Why is everyone assuming that everything faction is going to be sky pirates from now on?
Because the last release was sky pirates, and there have been mentions of other sky pirate factions in the lore.
There has been mention of one "sky pirate" faction, and that's the Grotbag Scuttlers introduced with the Kharadon Overlords.
Nothing about the Shadowkin("Shadow Aelves") made mention of "sky pirates". The closest thing would be the Scourge Privateers, but even then they're less "Sky Pirates" and more "Realm Privateers" as they travel the various realms, getting up to no good.
So, is it not a logical assumption, gleaning from the nature of the newest release, and hint, that Grotbag Scuttlers or Scourge Privateers would come out soon?
EnTyme wrote: Why is everyone assuming that everything faction is going to be sky pirates from now on?
Because the last release was sky pirates, and there have been mentions of other sky pirate factions in the lore.
There has been mention of one "sky pirate" faction, and that's the Grotbag Scuttlers introduced with the Kharadon Overlords.
Nothing about the Shadowkin("Shadow Aelves") made mention of "sky pirates". The closest thing would be the Scourge Privateers, but even then they're less "Sky Pirates" and more "Realm Privateers" as they travel the various realms, getting up to no good.
So, is it not a logical assumption, gleaning from the nature of the newest release, and hint, that Grotbag Scuttlers or Scourge Privateers would come out soon?
Scourge Privateers are already out.
The Black Ark Corsairs, Fleetmaster, Scourgerunner Chariot, and Kharibdyss are all Scourge Privateer stuff at the moment.
Grotbag Scuttlers maybe, but since we don't even get the Kharadon stuff until late April...or know literally anything about them other than "sky pirates" and "Grots", it's pretty difficult to definitively say:
"Yes these are Grotbag Scuttlers"
or
"No these are not Grotbag Scuttlers"
What we do know is that there has been rumblings from reliable rumormongers about Shadowkin coming, and since we know as little about them as we do the Grotbag Scuttlers...
EnTyme wrote: Why is everyone assuming that everything faction is going to be sky pirates from now on?
Because the last release was sky pirates, and there have been mentions of other sky pirate factions in the lore.
There has been mention of one "sky pirate" faction, and that's the Grotbag Scuttlers introduced with the Kharadon Overlords.
Nothing about the Shadowkin("Shadow Aelves") made mention of "sky pirates". The closest thing would be the Scourge Privateers, but even then they're less "Sky Pirates" and more "Realm Privateers" as they travel the various realms, getting up to no good.
So, is it not a logical assumption, gleaning from the nature of the newest release, and hint, that Grotbag Scuttlers or Scourge Privateers would come out soon?
Have we heard absolutely anything from any rumormonger about another ship-based faction? Not that I'm aware of. What we have heard (from one of our most reliable sources) is that we are likely to get a Lovecraftian Aelf faction and Skaven, neither of which have been mentioned in conjunction with "sky pirates".
EnTyme wrote: Why is everyone assuming that everything faction is going to be sky pirates from now on?
Because the last release was sky pirates, and there have been mentions of other sky pirate factions in the lore.
There has been mention of one "sky pirate" faction, and that's the Grotbag Scuttlers introduced with the Kharadon Overlords.
Nothing about the Shadowkin("Shadow Aelves") made mention of "sky pirates". The closest thing would be the Scourge Privateers, but even then they're less "Sky Pirates" and more "Realm Privateers" as they travel the various realms, getting up to no good.
So, is it not a logical assumption, gleaning from the nature of the newest release, and hint, that Grotbag Scuttlers or Scourge Privateers would come out soon?
Have we heard absolutely anything from any rumormonger about another ship-based faction? Not that I'm aware of. What we have heard (from one of our most reliable sources) is that we are likely to get a Lovecraftian Aelf faction and Skaven, neither of which have been mentioned in conjunction with "sky pirates".
And "Lovecraftian" could basically mean anything from any of Lovecraft's works. It's not an exceedingly helpful term, yet people are immediately jumping on it as meaning "tentacle monsters".
Never mind that a big part of Lovecraft's works deals with forbidden knowledge; say something that Malerion and his followers have cribbed from their enslavement of Slaanesh...
Metalwork looks like it could be goblin, to me. That doesn't automatically mean sky pirates though; it could be holding back/down a giant squid-beast of some kind…
zamerion wrote: GW sometimes make first the model in resin (look shadowspire miniaures)
And "Dark aelves" are near. For this reason i want to believe that this anchor will be from grot sky pirates.
They always do that. The Eavy Metal painters talked about in WHTV. They paint up figures for box art etc before the plastic production has started.
And sometimes they only paint the bits that will be shown in the photos or on the boxes. True Fac. The plastic river trolls, for example, have no shading or highlights on the back
zamerion wrote: Does anyone know if this image is from Kharadron Overlords ?
The metal colours, and the blue light is similar to them, but i dont see the "discs" that are at the end.
I'm pretty confident this is mechanicus.
The backpack of the datasmith is very similar. The 40k story also seems to be setting up new mechanicus stuff.
I think it's scourge privateers they have been featuring a lot in the lore lately the city of secrets and the new warhammer quest. Thinking about it they have enough units to receive the "sylvaneth treatment" they are also clearly styled to be Cthulhu/deep one themed also an extract from city of secrets.
Gonna spoiler tag it just in case people haven't read the book.
He withdrew a small oval object. It looked almost viscous in his hands, glimmering dully in the soft lighth of the glow-oil lamps. As callis watched, the witch hunter gently caressed the edge of the object, and it quivered organically."
What in sigmar's name is that thing? Said Callis, his stomach squirming in disgust.
"This," replied toll, "is a kraken's eye. It's also a method of direct communication to the one of the most dangerous people in the city. And if I use it, I'll be in that person's debt. Which, historically, has never been a good place to be."
"Worse that being tortured to death by a mad cult leader in his underground dungeon?"
"Potentially. Now quiet. And stand back."
Toll muttered a word. At least, Callis assumed it was a world, a glottal mumur that sounded like the death rattle of some aquatic monster. Instantly, the organ in the witch hunter's hand contracted and pulsed. Black ink poured from the eye, coalescing into a vaguely oval shape, the size of a full length mirror. Shapes writhed and moved in the depths of the darkness.
"Zenth," the witch hunter repeated. I'm calling in my favour. Now answer me, damn you."
The ink swirled and reshaped, and now a humanoid outline was visible within the mass. Slowly the rippling surface calmed, and the outline came into a sharper focus.
Of course I could be totally wrong but the last two rumor images I think fit the theme of scourge privateers also there must be some secret to their success a pact with Malerion or something like that.
I only hope all this pirate and sky stuff means there'll be some more Swifthawk stuff. They did the whole flying seamen thing first, even if GW made a huge mess with the pricing and availability. They really should stick around. Not expanding them would be a bit premature. Maybe a a few giant swallows for the flying seamen to ride. It might be a stetch to fit them inside a force of seamen, but whatever, just takes a bit of elbow grease.
I'll stop now.
But I actually do like the Skycutter, just not the GW Direct price, so I never bought one for my tiny IoB HElves force. Battletome Swifthawk Agents sounds pretty cool, too, and wouls make a nice adversary for creepy deep sea elves, goblin pirates AND flying dwarfs.
Binabik15 wrote: I only hope all this pirate and sky stuff means there'll be some more Swifthawk stuff. They did the whole flying seamen thing first, even if GW made a huge mess with the pricing and availability. They really should stick around. Not expanding them would be a bit premature. Maybe a a few giant swallows for the flying seamen to ride. It might be a stetch to fit them inside a force of seamen, but whatever, just takes a bit of elbow grease.
I'll stop now.
But I actually do like the Skycutter, just not the GW Direct price, so I never bought one for my tiny IoB HElves force. Battletome Swifthawk Agents sounds pretty cool, too, and wouls make a nice adversary for creepy deep sea elves, goblin pirates AND flying dwarfs.
Spoiler:
Have an exalt, you made me and a co-worker laugh way too much
See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
I don't think the Sky Grots are going to be spiders, if only because silvertowers spider gobbo's are because of Tzeentch and crazy Silver Tower magic.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
yeah. This stuff seems good enough to make us (nearly) forget the 2 horrible years of sigmarine. What were they thinking?
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
I don't think the Sky Grots are going to be spiders, if only because silvertowers spider gobbo's are because of Tzeentch and crazy Silver Tower magic.
Bloated Squig ships, tiny-winged beasties being forced to fly via Grot-magic, strapped with giant platforms and 'sails'.
I can see it now.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
I don't think the Sky Grots are going to be spiders, if only because silvertowers spider gobbo's are because of Tzeentch and crazy Silver Tower magic.
Bloated Squig ships, tiny-winged beasties being forced to fly via Grot-magic, strapped with giant platforms and 'sails'.
I can see it now.
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Damn you, now I want to do a Grotty salvaged Kharadron frigate covered in rust and crude patches and held aloft by gas-squigs.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
Well, maybe they focused on a faction similiar to Space Marines, they thought would sell well and the ever present arch enemy of everything, Chaos, to introduce a new system and recover from dwindling WHFB sales, while going into full brainstorming/production mode for new factions for the next two years and we're now seeing the results of this?
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
I don't think the Sky Grots are going to be spiders, if only because silvertowers spider gobbo's are because of Tzeentch and crazy Silver Tower magic.
Bloated Squig ships, tiny-winged beasties being forced to fly via Grot-magic, strapped with giant platforms and 'sails'.
I can see it now.
Nah man
Spider Riders with balloons. Not like Kharadron balloons, but just rubber ones. Archanarok Spider tied to 4000 pelicans.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
I don't think the Sky Grots are going to be spiders, if only because silvertowers spider gobbo's are because of Tzeentch and crazy Silver Tower magic.
Bloated Squig ships, tiny-winged beasties being forced to fly via Grot-magic, strapped with giant platforms and 'sails'.
I can see it now.
