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Post by: Carlovonsexron
Could it be custodes?
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Post by: tneva82
ZoBo wrote:this could of course still be many months away from release...who knows...
Well with round 1 of codexes done starts to be time for round 2, maybe with lesser speed and more models, to start anyway
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Post by: Messiah
Mu guess is it might be a part for a titan in Titanicus?
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Ad-Mech flyer.
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Post by: PiñaColada
If I had to guess I'd say it's an Admech skimmer sort of along the line of the land speeder storm.
This is from the design cues of it, I'm not sure how likely it is that GW is giving Admech another vehicle. Although to be fair, if they give admech a non-forgeworld transport that would fix most of their needs in regards to the model range (another cheapish HQ is needed in addition I'd say)
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Post by: TheGuest
Kanluwen wrote:They keep mentioning an AdMech skimmer in the lore stuff for them. I'll see if I can find it again.
Did you find it?
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Post by: vim_the_good
My money is on a SoB vehicle.
The vents them selves make it imperial but they do not link it to any particular faction. As others have pointed out, we are seeing the back of a vehicle from the top. We see a turbine pointing into a rudder.
The big deal for me though is that it is curvy. Look at the gentle taper of the right side and the rounded bevel of the bottom right corner. This alone marks it as not being SM AM or AdMech. It could be a GC or RT vehicle but I feel a SoB vibe coming from it.
Just my wild shot in the dark
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Post by: Overread
I don't think its Sisters of Battle. GW aren't teasing that one out they are giving bold "here it is" releases for Sisters in a much more open air release.
My guess is its a marketing attempt to see how it works when GW teases and releases clear visual designs ahead of a release. Seeing how the community reacts and how the 3rd party manufacturers react.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Cult Limo.
Eh, would be nice...
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Post by: bubber
next one:
Smoke bomb?
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Post by: Herbington
Endless spells/effects for 40k?
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Post by: Oguhmek
Ork Teleport Homer.
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Post by: Lord Perversor
not until 8th 2.0 comes out next year like they did with AoS
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Post by: Jadenim
Ork Kommandos??
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Post by: ZoBo
necromunda enforcers tear gas grenade or something maybe?
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Post by: zedmeister
Yeah gas/toxin markers. Would be a cinematic touch for Necromunda
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Post by: Kanluwen
It's also possibly AoS or Warhammer Underworlds related...Kharadron Overlords could use something interesting and this would fit the bill, with them getting smoke bombs.
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Post by: TheGuest
Is it a human thumb at the bottom of the image?
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Post by: whalemusic360
Only if the bit is HUGE or the person has very tiny hands.
Edit: You probably mean not a real human, but a human figure. That makes way more sense.
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Post by: Haighus
Hmm Necromunda would be a good fit for a human holding a smoke bomb. Delaque maybe?
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Post by: Perfect Organism
I'm not seeing anything in that image that remotely resembles a human thumb. I see a grenade, with a main cylinder, two rounded end-caps and angular spoon and a cloud of smoke coming out of it.
It looks far too 'clean' to be a fantasy piece, in my opinion, so I think that a smoke marker for necromunda would be the best guess.
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Post by: Haighus
Perfect Organism wrote:I'm not seeing anything in that image that remotely resembles a human thumb. I see a grenade, with a main cylinder, two rounded end-caps and angular spoon and a cloud of smoke coming out of it.
It looks far too 'clean' to be a fantasy piece, in my opinion, so I think that a smoke marker for necromunda would be the best guess.
The white bit on the bottom of the cylinder, with what looks like a grey fingernail on it. Although it could be a lever, surely that should've pinged off after being thrown?
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Post by: Mr_Rose
It could just as easily be a cylindrical clay jar with some sort of daemon/spirit being released for AoS.
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Post by: Nightlord1987
The lack of (un-solved) Orky looking pics makes me saaaad.
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Post by: Perfect Organism
There are a couple of very squig-like parts which could be either 40k orks or AoS moonclan. Also the crudely stitched fabric could possibly be orky.
EDIT: I wouldn't take the number of rumour images as much indication of the size of release we will be getting. Kharadron overlords only got three images but ten different kits.
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Post by: Thargrim
Could be some Delaque wyrd/spook grenade or something unique to them.
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Post by: gnome_idea_what
Thargrim wrote:Could be some Delaque wyrd/spook grenade or something unique to them.
Nah the aesthetic seems too general and nonspecific for it to belong to a gang.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Gobbo spear of some kind.
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Post by: Overread
Well its certainly rough which would suggest a primitive weapon used by one of the Destruction factions - plus it lacks the ornate style of many chaos weapons (even if some are basic weapons).
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Post by: bubber
Maybe lizardmen? Looks like chipped stone to me.
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Post by: Ghaz
Since it looks a lot like the spear seen HERE I'm going to say we'll be seeing Eldar Exodites in the next year or so...
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Post by: terry
Ghaz wrote:Since it looks a lot like the spear seen HERE I'm going to say we'll be seeing Eldar Exodites in the next year or so...
that would be great
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Nah, Lizardmen are typically more ornamented, and better napped
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Post by: KurtAngle2
Kroot weapon for sure
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Post by: Marleymoo
The spearhead looks quite neat, I was thinking less gobbo more Darkoath.
I'm hoping it's Squig cavalry though.
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Post by: Chikout
Expecting this to be anything 40k is extreme wishful thinking. The prime candidates are aos destruction, Darkoath, or possibly lizardmen. I am going to say it is Darkoath.
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Post by: Crimson
I really hope it is the Darkoath.
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Post by: Xyxel
Tooth is too big imo to be in proper scale for a Gobbo spear. More like Orruk stone spear.
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Post by: Theophony
Savage squid spear  .
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Post by: deleted20250424
Amazons.
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Post by: Mysterio
Seconded.
That'd be my guess too.
Only other thing it could be is something for Primaris Marines.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Xyxel wrote:Tooth is too big imo to be in proper scale for a Gobbo spear. More like Orruk stone spear.
Ahh, could simply be a trophy from a Squig or Troll. Something to show the wielder’s triumphs - or how ‘ard the one they nicked it off was.
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Post by: EnTyme
The Shadespire Moonclan has a Troggoth in the warband. Could this be a Troggoth spear for the full faction release?
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Post by: drbored
They also revealed another grot model for Shadespire. It's clear that the goblins are going to be getting some attention, so I bet this is just more of that.
Maybe the rumored spider rider remake.
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Post by: Sabotage!
My guess is it belongs to a member of the Moonclan Shadespire band or maybe to a Bonesplitterz warband as of yet unrevealed.
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Post by: Dread Master
Sabotage! wrote:My guess is it belongs to a member of the Moonclan Shadespire band or maybe to a Bonesplitterz warband as of yet unrevealed.
I thought bonesplitterz as well, but the spearhead appears too small and symmetrical, unless it’s a design change. Moonclan seems more likely, but I won’t rule it out.
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Post by: Bob Lorgar
Could be Ratskins.
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Post by: CthuluIsSpy
Nah, lizardmen weapons are smoother than that, and they generally have more ornamentation. Looks more greenskin.
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Post by: Binabik15
It's Nurgle Troglodytes for the new Nurgle faction that consists of slightly revamped sculpts of the originally planned Darkoath and Moonclan models because "needz moar Nurgle".
PS: I'd take some knights of the Order of the Fly, though  Turns out I don't like building lances.
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Post by: Irbis
The big jaw looks like right red thingy here:
None of the Shadespire bands seem to carry the spear, though, unless it's gobbo leader above. Wrapping looks different though.
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Post by: Mysterio
So you're saying it *is* a Squig?
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Post by: aracersss
what if ...
... is
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Yes!
Spider grot, spider grot,
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Post by: Haighus
Does whatever a spider grot does.
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Post by: Mymearan
That is surely a Grot spear of some kind.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Well, I'm convinced.
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Post by: zamerion
Endless spell fireslayers?
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Post by: terry
that would mean that fireslayers get wizards. It could be someother duradain related model or something darkoath
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Post by: Grimdesign
bow of a tiny ship?
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Post by: Yancy
Looks like the back of the old metal chaos sorcerer I have.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Yancy wrote:Looks like the back of the old metal chaos sorcerer I have.
Good catch! It even has cabling along the top...we know Blackstone Fortress(Warhammer Quest...IN SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!) is coming at some point and it's supposed to be focused on the Black Legion. Would be a good spot to bring in a plastic Chaos Sorcerer clamshell as an homage to that guy.
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
I'm thinking darkoath or slaanesh- its got a general resemblance to how I could see slaangors ending up. (Though as stated else where, Id prefer a serpent-man slaangor that can pull double duty as Laer remnants in 40k)
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Thousand Sons sorcerer (for Warhammer 40k Quest: Black Fortress)
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
Oh wow, totally on tje money that!
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Just so that nobody wastes time guessing enything else:
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Post by: Marshal Loss
Can't wait to see the new Sorcerer!
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Post by: Irbis
Actually, the closest lookalike would be this model:
But yeah, can't see it being anything but CSM HQ...
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Post by: Overread
It's the bow of a new ship from the ancient race of the WELSH. Bringing with them their mighty flocks of weresheep and ancient red dragons as they set sale from their wet and hilly lands to invade the Mortal Realms
Or yeah could be some new chaos sorcerer.
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Post by: Yancy
It's good to finally have one of these show us something specific
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Post by: Kanluwen
Yancy wrote:It's good to finally have one of these show us something specific
Thing is they all show something specific...it's just we don't always have a frame of reference for it. This just happened to have a frame of reference.
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Post by: Yancy
Kanluwen wrote: Yancy wrote:It's good to finally have one of these show us something specific
Thing is they all show something specific...it's just we don't always have a frame of reference for it. This just happened to have a frame of reference.
Yep. Just one of the first I've thought for sure would be a specific model. It was good of GW to give something so recognisable.
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Post by: Haighus
The CSM backpack idea seems likely. I would be very glad to see a generic Sorceror.
Generic CSM do have a remarkable lack of plastic characters. They have the old Terminator Lord/Sorceror, and the Aspiring Champion clampack (one of the very earliest 40k clampacks). All the other Chaos clampacks are god-specific. There is also the now-OOP Dark Vengeance Lord.
I find it very odd that no generic Sorceror or Lord has been released, and to a lesser extent no plastic Dark Apostle or Warpsmith. Yet they have an Aspiring Champion...
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Post by: Theophony
Too obvious, so it’ll probably be the prow of a grot sky pirates air boat. The SS minnow squig.
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Post by: EnTyme
Probably the main antagonist for Blackstone Citadel (or whatever the name of 40k Quest was).
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Post by: Elbows
If anything, it definitely lends credence to the rumours of some new basic CSM stuff (a pleasant surprise since I had assumed CSM were going to be slowly eroded in favour of power-specific factions).
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Post by: Haighus
Elbows wrote:...assumed CSM were going to be slowly eroded in favour of power-specific factions.
Which would be a crying shame after they teased us with what they were capable of, what with Dark Vengeance and the Raptors box both being really awesome sculpts. I have refused to collect any further standard Chaos whilst the rest of the range mismatches so jarringly.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Because that’s exactly what happened with Ultramarines.
Oh. Wait
(Note the smiley for the correct inflection)
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Post by: krakjen
Haighus wrote: Elbows wrote:...assumed CSM were going to be slowly eroded in favour of power-specific factions.
Which would be a crying shame after they teased us with what they were capable of, what with Dark Vengeance and the Raptors box both being really awesome sculpts. I have refused to collect any further standard Chaos whilst the rest of the range mismatches so jarringly.
I still prefer the old metal Raptor sculpts. They had a very distinctive look instead of being spiky assault squads, and they still looks cooler imo.
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Post by: Overread
https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
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Post by: Kanluwen
Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
For those interested in the artwork:
I'm wondering if this is a hint/teaser for a reworked Cadian kit...Canids would be an interesting addition to a squad.
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Post by: Haighus
I wants the fluffy doggies! Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/ So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
Clearly, the Imperium is populated by dog people, therefore cats will only gain rank amongst the forces of heretics Kanluwen wrote: For those interested in the artwork: I'm wondering if this is a hint/teaser for a reworked Cadian kit...Canids would be an interesting addition to a squad.
Maybe we will finally get a Veterans kit?
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Post by: BrookM
No, cats go with the eldar. Snooty donkey-caves everywhere over there.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Haighus wrote:Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
Clearly, the Imperium is populated by dog people, therefore cats will only gain rank amongst the forces of heretics
Kanluwen wrote:
For those interested in the artwork:
I'm wondering if this is a hint/teaser for a reworked Cadian kit...Canids would be an interesting addition to a squad.
Maybe we will finally get a Veterans kit?
The Cadian kit is about the same age as the Fire Warrior kit was before its revamp. I've been saying for awhile that it would make sense for the Cadian kit to get recut like the Fire Warriors did and to include some new weapon options/profiles as well.
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Post by: Ghaz
Haighus wrote:I wants the fluffy doggies!
Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
Clearly, the Imperium is populated by dog people, therefore cats will only gain rank amongst the forces of heretics
Those heretics called the Eldar.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Ghaz wrote: Haighus wrote:I wants the fluffy doggies!
Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
Clearly, the Imperium is populated by dog people, therefore cats will only gain rank amongst the forces of heretics
Those heretics called the Eldar.
I now have a duel in mind, and I need a Cadian Officer with a Canid and the Ynnari and a Gyrinx...
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Post by: Haighus
Kanluwen wrote:
The Cadian kit is about the same age as the Fire Warrior kit was before its revamp. I've been saying for awhile that it would make sense for the Cadian kit to get recut like the Fire Warriors did and to include some new weapon options/profiles as well.
True, although I'd rather get a re-vamped CSM kit before Cadians or Catachans, and Guard is my primary army.
Kanluwen wrote: Ghaz wrote: Haighus wrote:I wants the fluffy doggies!
Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/
So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium!
Clearly, the Imperium is populated by dog people, therefore cats will only gain rank amongst the forces of heretics
Those heretics called the Eldar.
I now have a duel in mind, and I need a Cadian Officer with a Canid and the Ynnari and a Gyrinx...
You could start with a Rogue Trader and Aximillion?
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Post by: Desubot
I want 20 doggos right now.
would almost get me back into 40k.
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Post by: GoatboyBeta
I guess the AoS Gryphounds sold well then
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Post by: Kanluwen
I'd be surprised if they didn't...it's just a shame they never put them into any Vanguard Warscroll Battalions that are available for Matched Play.
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Post by: Theophony
“Soldier I said we will take that hill!”
“Sorry Sir, but the dog said I needed to scratch his belly......and he outranks you  “
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Pretty sure Archibald is most people's favorite AoS character.
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Post by: Mr Morden
Elbows wrote:If anything, it definitely lends credence to the rumours of some new basic CSM stuff (a pleasant surprise since I had assumed CSM were going to be slowly eroded in favour of power-specific factions).
Or maybe they will do all the non Marine kits we need. So Sisters, Eldar, Guard Regiments other than Cadian, etc etc etc
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Post by: Irbis
To be fair, UM players are kinda shafted. You can buy SW, DA, and BA specific squads in the price of normal ones, and there is a lot of boxes with their upgrade sprue thrown in for essentially free. Neither of UM upgrade sprues were ever put in combo box in the last decade, and UM have no squad of their own, just generics. Just look at the clownery that was holiday 'squad + vehicle' boxes - all of them except UM got free upgrade sprues. So, out of these 4 chapters, if you collect UM, you have to pay essentially the most for what is the closest look to vanilla, when there was no good reason for GW to not add that sprue in anyway to represent chapter relics or something even if you don't play UM.
And that's just before looking at actual rules - in 8th, it's kinda bearable (although UM have less and weaker options than the 3 deviant chapters), but in 7th, you had double shaft of everyone having their speshul snowflake stuff on top of UM rules, while UM itself got nothing to indicate their superior discipline and training being virtually SM -1 (last time they had anything like it was 5th edition and even then wolfwolves and BA were the 'best' marines, though at least back then UM could have at least pretend to compete with some builds...).
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Post by: Kanluwen
Irbis wrote:
To be fair, UM players are kinda shafted. You can buy SW, DA, and BA specific squads in the price of normal ones, and there is a lot of boxes with their upgrade sprue thrown in for essentially free. Neither of UM upgrade sprues were ever put in combo box in the last decade, and UM have no squad of their own, just generics. Just look at the clownery that was holiday 'squad + vehicle' boxes - all of them except UM got free upgrade sprues. So, out of these 4 chapters, if you collect UM, you have to pay essentially the most for what is the closest look to vanilla, when there was no good reason for GW to not add that sprue in anyway to represent chapter relics or something even if you don't play UM.
The base Marine kits come with UM transfers. That's why upgrade frames are in the kits for DA, SW, and BA.
And that's just before looking at actual rules - in 8th, it's kinda bearable (although UM have less and weaker options than the 3 deviant chapters), but in 7th, you had double shaft of everyone having their speshul snowflake stuff on top of UM rules, while UM itself got nothing to indicate their superior discipline and training being virtually SM -1 (last time they had anything like it was 5th edition and even then wolfwolves and BA were the 'best' marines, though at least back then UM could have at least pretend to compete with some builds...).
Other than Ultramarines having a huge roster of characters and access to stuff that the BA, DA, and SW didn't?
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
But what about the Ultras' own upgrade frame?
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Post by: Overread
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/09/28/28th-sept-our-500th-store-the-openinggw-homepage-post-3/
So two new models coming tomorrow - one from 40K and the other AoS. They've not confirmed if they are store unique or if they will appear on the website too (really hope they do because some people can't get to the stores with 1 day notice....)
I'm guessing stormcast and marine although could be nighthaunt or something else (I mean its not like everything AoS has to be stormcast like everything 40K has to be marines - right
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Post by: Kanluwen
Those were confirmed back in July to be the store birthday models.
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Post by: Overread
I thought those were the store birthday models for each store that have already been released? Ergo people already have those models from their own local store birthday date (or got a friend to get them and ship them around - there's at least one or two Facebook Groups doing it)
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Post by: Mymearan
Overread wrote:https://regimental-standard.com/2018/09/26/managing-your-canid/ So no hinted part, but there is artwork and a very clear description of what is to come. It helps that the article is amusing although considering that they've given the canid a rank one shudders to think how high a cat would go in the Imperium! In the real military, in the US at least, dogs are always one rank higher than their handler. Sign of respect and all. So it's in fact not something GW came up with. It's pretty cool
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Overread wrote:I thought those were the store birthday models for each store that have already been released? Ergo people already have those models from their own local store birthday date (or got a friend to get them and ship them around - there's at least one or two Facebook Groups doing it)
That they are. The not-yet-revealed new minis are new and have not yet been revealed.
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Post by: Barzam
I really hope that Regimental Standard means we're getting a Guard K9 team. Even better if they could be used in Kill Team.
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Post by: aracersss
... surprisingly that ain't from the new fiend
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Not seeing that exact claw. But could be clipped out already.
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Post by: Haighus
Yeah, the spines on the back categorically do not match any of the claws shown in the sprue. Maybe it is for a Keeper of Secrets or a Herald?
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Post by: EnTyme
If that sprue is from the new Slaanesh/Khorne boxed set, the kit might possibly have both Daemonettes and Fiends. The clipped portion could be the Daemonettes along with the teaser claw.
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Post by: Kanluwen
EnTyme wrote:If that sprue is from the new Slaanesh/Khorne boxed set, the kit might possibly have both Daemonettes and Fiends. The clipped portion could be the Daemonettes along with the teaser claw.
That's assuming they're on the same sprue...which isn't likely what this boxed set would be. From what's been hinted at it will be something akin to Forgebane or Tooth & Claw, a mixture of new stuff and old. As it stands, this looks to be the same type of kit as the Beasts of Nurgle. Those things have quite a few extra bits. The size is even right to be a kit similar to the BoN. I'm expecting to see Daemonettes, a new plastic Daemonette character of some type, one of these new Fiends of Slaanesh, a new Khorne plastic character, Bloodletters, and new Flesh Hounds...and amusingly enough, something like that assuming Flesh Hounds go to a kit for $40 would be $188USD leaving enough wiggle room for it to be one of the $120-$130 kits instead of the full $150-$160. Also, there's apparently a 360 view on GW's instagram and it does look really close to the rumor engine one.
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Post by: Haighus
Nah, the one in the 360 is different. There are only 3 spines leading up to the longest spine in the RE pic, whereas there are 4 spines preceding the longest spine in the 360 and sprue images.
I'm thinking it is going to be for a plastic Herald now.
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Post by: Marshal Loss
I concur, seems like a part from a Herald
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Post by: bubber
Latest pic:
Probably an ammo belt / feed for an ork weapon ( IMHO)
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Post by: zedmeister
Storm Bolter belt feed. Or a Combi-Bolter belt feed. Something about this says 30k to me...
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
An invisible squig with metal teeth
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
New IG stuff! (a man can dream!)
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Post by: Triszin
bubber wrote:Latest pic:
Probably an ammo belt / feed for an ork weapon ( IMHO)
Chaos space marines, black legion.
Bolt belt feed for one of the models in blackstone fortress
is my guess.
or you know.
RUSS
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Post by: Oguhmek
DAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKADAKKA
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Post by: Nightlord1987
Could be from the mek rig. But looks more Imperial/human than Ork.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Looks like a twin belt feed. Depending on the actual size, could be a storm bolter or a TL heavy bolter, or a combi-bolter.
Given the Chaos backpack we saw earlier and the fiend of Slaanesh and the rumours about a Khorne vs. Slaanesh boxed set on the horizon, it might well be a combi bolter from, or adjacent to, that set.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Mr_Rose wrote:Looks like a twin belt feed. Depending on the actual size, could be a storm bolter or a TL heavy bolter, or a combi-bolter.
Given the Chaos backpack we saw earlier and the fiend of Slaanesh and the rumours about a Khorne vs. Slaanesh boxed set on the horizon, it might well be a combi bolter from, or adjacent to, that set.
The Khorne vs Slaanesh set is confirmed. They gave us a video for it back with the Nova Open.
It's Daemons only. It's called "Realm of Chaos: Wrath and Glory".
We also know there's a 40k set called "Warhammer Quest: Blackstone Fortress" coming, which was heavily hinted at being like Silver Tower which saw brand new models all around, and a new faction(Tzeentch Arcanites) previewed that way.
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Post by: Irbis
Looks very similar to
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Post by: ImAGeek
It looks similar to that in the sense that it’s an ammo belt.
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Post by: Irbis
ImAGeek wrote:It looks similar to that in the sense that it’s an ammo belt.
Eyup, only because it's a belt, and not because details are nearly identical, and pretty unlike all other SM examples, or anything
Though, while I picked Cypher's gun because ammo on it is more pointier than other bolter belts, something bothers me - bolts are usually nearly cylindrical with round tip and wide bottom. This might actually not be a bolter at all but some sort of heavy stubber because narrowing ammo and belt look pretty close to CSM one:
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Post by: CaptainBetts
Also looks similar to a GSC heavy stubber or an ork heavy shoota (both codexes are getting releases, and GSC are known to be getting some more units).
I guess we're looking at a lot of different things it could be.
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Post by: ImAGeek
Irbis wrote: ImAGeek wrote:It looks similar to that in the sense that it’s an ammo belt.
Eyup, only because it's a belt, and not because details are nearly identical, and pretty unlike all other SM examples, or anything
Though, while I picked Cypher's gun because ammo on it is more pointier than other bolter belts, something bothers me - bolts are usually nearly cylindrical with round tip and wide bottom. This might actually not be a bolter at all but some sort of heavy stubber because narrowing ammo and belt look pretty close to CSM one:

The details aren’t nearly identical at all? Cyphers is just a solid leather strap, while the rumour engine one has a much more open structure. Apart from both being belts holding bullets, the details are very different.
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Post by: Thargrim
That ammo belt could be Delaque related. The old models did have ammo bandoliers and belts around their coats.
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Post by: Mymearan
Yep I'm guessing Necromunda as well.
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Post by: Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh
Talon of Horus?
LordShaft.
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Post by: bubber
Latest 'hint'
AoS peasant?
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Post by: terry
And another one
Looks like AoS, could be free people
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Post by: Hanskrampf
terry wrote:And another one
Looks like AoS, could be free people
Oh please let it be AoS Medieval Italians from
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Post by: Not-not-kenny
Oh oh OH OOHHH! If it's Freeguild it looks like they'll keep the aesthetics of the archers which i am so 1000% for and very excited right now can't sentence properly
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could also be LotR.....
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Orktober continues I see.
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Post by: Bloodmaster
Better be glad that it's no pork, as that would mean that the mini shown ist roughly 1 to 3 months or longer away
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
It's Santa Sigmar for a Christmas AoS release
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Post by: bullyboy
That be an Inquisitor or something from the Blackstone Fortress game
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Greatcoat Orks!
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Post by: Carlovonsexron
This is a VERY exciting pic.
I mean, I'm all worked up for all kinds of potential stuff- rogue traders, inquisitors, free-peoples from AoS or LotR...
but really we all know its gonna be a sigmarine of some sort.
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Post by: CassianSol
I'm gonna say something out there - Fabius Bile.
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Post by: Myrthe
Witch Hunter from the re-release of Mordheim ?
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Post by: Thargrim
First thing that came to mind was a Delaque coat with a belt around the waist.
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Post by: Davor
I can't see how since they always say "come to our 40K or AoS Facebook pages". Unless they want us to start advertising LotR on those sites.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Well, they’ve teased Specialist Games stuff in the past. And whilst definitely fantasy of some kind, I don’t feel we can entirely rule out LotR.
Really hope it’s Free Peoples though. Much as I think Stormcast are cool, Free Peoples are the ones that inspire me, for the same reason as Guard do when compared to Astartes.
It’s one thing to stand firm when your a genetically engineered or magically reforged demigod. It’s quite another when you’re just Bob, with barely enough training to show you which end of the Lasgun or Pointy Stick goes toward the enemy.
They sorely need it as well. Bring in the Ironweld, Free Peoples and Collegiate Arcane and that into a single Battletome. I feel we need a proper hodgepodge Mortal list, spesh as we’ll be getting Darkoath, their Chaotic (but differently evil from regular Chaos( counterpart.
Let the mortals have their time to shine. Show us the little men and women fighting against the horrors. After all. If they don’t, all is lost.
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Post by: Oguhmek
bullyboy wrote:That be an Inquisitor or something from the Blackstone Fortress game
This would also be my guess. Looks very Inquisitorial to me.
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Post by: drbored
I'd guess AoS. Could even be a new elf.
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Post by: NurglesR0T
I'm also leaning towards LotR as well
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Post by: Starfarer
bullyboy wrote:That be an Inquisitor or something from the Blackstone Fortress game
It is. Go look at the artwork of the Rogue Trader at the end of the Blackstone Fortress teaser trailer. It's matches his belt exactly.
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Post by: Chikout
Starfarer wrote: bullyboy wrote:That be an Inquisitor or something from the Blackstone Fortress game
It is. Go look at the artwork of the Rogue Trader at the end of the Blackstone Fortress teaser trailer. It's matches his belt exactly.
Yup. It looks like a pretty good match.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Doesn't match above the belt though...unless the sword is just at the right angle to block the tie between the two sections.
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Post by: Albino Squirrel
Yeah, that's not a good match at all.
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Post by: Lockark
I want to point out that could in theory be for House Delaque Gangers due to how close in it's cropped. But My hope is for free guild.
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Post by: Theophony
Fancy pants ork.
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Post by: plastictrees
"How can we bring Greenskins fully into the Age of Sigmar?"
"...Buckled frock coats."
"Say no more."
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Post by: Haighus
I'd be down for some real aristorkracy, not just some minor nobz. Could be a hilarious faction, like 40k Flash Gitz, but fantasy-style.
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Post by: Davor
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well, they’ve teased Specialist Games stuff in the past. And whilst definitely fantasy of some kind, I don’t feel we can entirely rule out LotR.
They have? I didn't know that. Thank you for correcting me. While I don't collect Free People, I hope it is. Lots of people want them back and I would love to see them back for them.
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Post by: Chikout
Looking at the pictures of the recently revealed pippin and gandalf models, I am pretty convinced this is not lotr or in fact anything specialist games. The painting styles are quite different. The highlight lines on the rumour image are extremely smooth, precisely painted in the eavy metal style. The specialist games and lotr stuff is not so smooth, as can be seen by the highlighting on gandalf and pippin's belts.
I still think it is the rogue trader from Blackstone fortress.
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Post by: Dread Master
Janus Draik
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Post by: Irbis
Chikout wrote:Looking at the pictures of the recently revealed pippin and gandalf models, I am pretty convinced this is not lotr or in fact anything specialist games. The painting styles are quite different. The highlight lines on the rumour image are extremely smooth, precisely painted in the eavy metal style. The specialist games and lotr stuff is not so smooth, as can be seen by the highlighting on gandalf and pippin's belts.
Yeah, new FW LotR model was just revealed, it has a belt that looks nowhere near like the 'heroic scale' example above does:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/evil-heroes-from-the-pelennor-fields/
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Post by: GorFrag
This look familiar?
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Post by: aracersss
looks a bit ... but the teeth don't match
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Post by: ImAGeek
Someone pointed this out on the Grand Alliance forum:
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Okay, so that's 100% Darkoath, probably their Nightvault warband.
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Post by: tneva82
Davor wrote:Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Well, they’ve teased Specialist Games stuff in the past. And whilst definitely fantasy of some kind, I don’t feel we can entirely rule out LotR.
They have? I didn't know that. Thank you for correcting me. While I don't collect Free People, I hope it is. Lots of people want them back and I would love to see them back for them.
Goblin specialist weapons from blood bowl definitely got teased like this. Don't recall others top of my head but then again haven't followed these fully so it's bit of on-off checking.
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Post by: Paull
Does the new Forgeworld Sumpkroc's jaw match up with this unsolved rumour? the teeth seem jutted out at similar angles
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Post by: Voss
Not really. The mouth in that pic is much shorter (left side to top of picture, rather than long and crocodilian) and lacks the little teeth
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Post by: Bloodmaster
and the teeth are painted differently. The RE mouth probably is a squig, but one, wie didn't see yet
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Post by: xttz
Pretty sure they've never done a rumour engine for FW stuff too
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Post by: zamerion
xttz wrote:Pretty sure they've never done a rumour engine for FW stuff too
One time
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Post by: zamerion
New
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Post by: terry
could be some armor plating, possible squig armor
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Post by: xttz
Pretty sure it's actually a squig weapon
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Post by: Mr_Rose
Looks too sculpted for anything Orcish. Or Goblinish. But then there’s the squig-herder from the nightvault goblins…
Could be armour for some new dark aelf beastie?
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Post by: RIPferdy
Prob a tail for some sort of new scorpion-squig
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Post by: Alexonian
God I hope its Moonclan
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Post by: Oguhmek
It has the same beaten-metal vibe as the Ironjaws. Look kind of like a wing of some sort
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could an armour claw of some kind? Like a Gobbo sized one of the Ironjawz Boss?
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Post by: timetowaste85
Tail armor for Fulgrim!!
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Post by: drazz
I'm fully thinking something Slaanesh.
Claw of some kind?
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Post by: Danny76
Its man made not natural though.
But still could be Slaanesh
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Post by: Haighus
I don't think that is a standalone piece, but armour around something else, like a tail. If you zoom in, the outer edge looks a lot fuzzier than the inner edge, which I think has had something (like a tail) cropped from the image.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Armoured Moonclan hat.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could very well be!
Though, despite the lack of loveliness? Left claw on this chap seems reminiscent....
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Post by: Nightlord1987
Hmmm. Good catch. Maybe tied into the Slaanesh release? New Keeper?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
It’s a possibility. However, worth noting that style didn’t continue beyond that model.
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Post by: Lockark
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Could very well be!
Though, despite the lack of loveliness? Left claw on this chap seems reminiscent....
at 1st I thought it might be orc, but then realized exactly this. GW in recent years loves going back into their history and reinventing old ideas.
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Post by: timetowaste85
Maybe so, but GW has been going back and reworking a lot of material from that time period into a more palatable updated form. If that armored claw was a thing back then, this looks like a good indication the new KoS will mimic it in some ways. Excellent, Smithers.....
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Post by: Lockark
Let's also not forget that all the greater demon plastic kits get multiple variants you can build. We might get like two different types of claws for example. Maby a crusher claw like on the old model, and a pincher claw like the current model.
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Post by: Sabotage!
I imagine the Keeper will have organic claws, but that's just my thought on the process.
I think it is probably Moonclan based on the armored squig herder in the new warband. Maybe the armor on an armored centipede (the Fungoid shaman has a centipede on his stave), or some sort of sickle type weapon or a herding hook.
Something for Slaanesh is a possibility though.
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Post by: Mr_Rose
The modern Slaanesh vibe has a lot of emphasis on perfection and pride; I don’t think dull, chipped armour fits that at all.
Even if the general shape and flow does.
That’s why I said Dark Aelf - close to the slaaneshi aesthetic but tempered by practicality.
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Post by: Lockark
Sabotage! wrote:I imagine the Keeper will have organic claws, but that's just my thought on the process.
I think it is probably Moonclan based on the armored squig herder in the new warband. Maybe the armor on an armored centipede (the Fungoid shaman has a centipede on his stave), or some sort of sickle type weapon or a herding hook.
Something for Slaanesh is a possibility though.
Armour peace worm over the claw, like on the old modle mad doc shared.
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Post by: Sabotage!
Lockark wrote: Sabotage! wrote:I imagine the Keeper will have organic claws, but that's just my thought on the process.
I think it is probably Moonclan based on the armored squig herder in the new warband. Maybe the armor on an armored centipede (the Fungoid shaman has a centipede on his stave), or some sort of sickle type weapon or a herding hook.
Something for Slaanesh is a possibility though.
Armour peace worm over the claw, like on the old modle mad doc shared.
The more I look at it, the more I am almost certain it is not a claw. The inside of the claw is far too dull and untextured, I'm pretty sure it's just a piece of armor, probably for Moonclan, but maybe a Slaanesh mortal.
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Post by: Dread Master
Count me in the camp KoS claw armor. The outer claw is armored, not the inner, so the teaser shows no texture where the inner claw would be.
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Post by: Sabotage!
I suppose it could be claw armor, though considering the picture is almost certain a side view, it would really only make sense if GW photoshopped the inner claw out. I'm not sure if they photoshop these pictures however, I'm unaware of them every doing so before (though I don't follow these too closely).
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could also be an entirely separate part, giving peeps the choice of armoured or unarmoured claw.
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Post by: Fayric
I think the claw armour sounds plausible. Magnus had lots of optional armour pieces.
However, it looks like it has to much of a curve to make a decent claw. The curve make it look more like it could be a halfmoon icon or something. the bottom part of the picture even looks like it could turn in to a nose if the picture was not cut.
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Post by: terry
 It looks like another AoS free people picture
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Or Spiderfang Grots, or Aelves, or Tzeentch, or anyone else who uses feathers. The spike is suspicious, makes me think this is upside down and is something hanging off a sword pommel or banner.
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Post by: Chaphazar
Some kind of helmet? Something free people is my guess.
I hope it's not... could be expensive for me
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Post by: The Phazer
That really does look quite Empire (sorry, Free People) ish.
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Post by: Tiberius501
Could it be part of the Blackstone Fortress Rogue Traders?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I doubt it's a hat feather unless the Free Peoples wear pickelhaubes now.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
You might be onto something there.
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Post by: Crimson
I really hope it is the Free People!
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Post by: JWBS
I'm surprised I'm commenting on a rumour about a rumour, but it reminds me of Lizardmen (spike, feather, I can imagine both atop a bamboo pole), but I guess Empire since that's what is apparently hot atm going by comments above.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Are there any rumors of new Empire/Freeguild/black power punk kits coming?
I miss my crazy DeVinchi models!
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
I'd love for it to be lizard- related, but I feel like they'd have been dropping more hints about them otherwise. Plus the embellishments on their weapons tend to be a bit simpler around the edges and the hilts.
On the other hand, there were some weird mentions of Seraphon in that 500 facts FAQ they put out. Something about what the Seraphon were actually created from and how we'd find out soon enough...
I do think the picture is upside down though. The way the edges of the feathers fan out makes me feel that way.
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Post by: Theophony
It’s a free-squig wearing a picklehaube
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Post by: aracersss
another leak exposed
fungy squig all along
Edit1: Starting to think this will be night gobbo related as well
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Post by: Haighus
Worth noting that this doesn't match the belt buckle of the newly revealed Blackstone Fortress character, but the general style is similar, so a BF character other than the one previewed is still a possibility. Personally, I'm still leaning towards Freeguild.
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Post by: bubber
Latest hint:
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Reckon that ties in with the thruster we saw a few weaks back.
I'm wondering if it might be something open topped?
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Post by: terry
either some sort of console or a backpack.
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Post by: Kanluwen
I'm going with backpack. I just finished building another 30 Skitarii and that setup looks very familiar...
Maybe Blackstone Fortress has a Skitarii character?
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Post by: terry
Kanluwen wrote:
I'm going with backpack. I just finished building another 30 Skitarii and that setup looks very familiar...
Maybe Blackstone Fortress has a Skitarii character?
or some form of techpriest like Larsen van der Grauss from the kill team: rogue trader box set
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Post by: Kanluwen
terry wrote: Kanluwen wrote: I'm going with backpack. I just finished building another 30 Skitarii and that setup looks very familiar... Maybe Blackstone Fortress has a Skitarii character?
or some form of techpriest like Larsen van der Grauss from the kill team: rogue trader box set
Honestly? I think we're all set on priests.  Between the Enginseer, Datasmith, Dominus, and now the Lectro-Maester...I think it's time we get an actual Skitarii character choice. Big reason why I say that I think it's a Skitarii character is the setup looks like an enlarged version of the Skitarii backpack. Also because I really want a Skitarii HQ choice dangit.
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Post by: stormboy
Have we confirmed that the May 24 rumor engine is in fact the front tires from the Kustom Booma Blasta?
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Post by: Haighus
Isn't Blackstone Fortress a bit too soon? It looks to be released in the next couple of months, whereas RE previews tend to be 5-6 months out or more.
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Post by: Togusa
Haighus wrote:Isn't Blackstone Fortress a bit too soon? It looks to be released in the next couple of months, whereas RE previews tend to be 5-6 months out or more.
I think there is precedence for quick turn around, I just can't remember what the rumor was.
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Post by: Kanluwen
Haighus wrote:Isn't Blackstone Fortress a bit too soon? It looks to be released in the next couple of months, whereas RE previews tend to be 5-6 months out or more.
Someone pointed out the backpack of the guy on the left from the Blackstone Fortress teaser today:
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Post by: Irbis
Except the picture above has some sort of Gothic arc went missing from the RE photo, and conversely misses SM style grill went on top. I also don't see dials anywhere, it's definitely not this.
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Post by: Perfect Organism
Irbis wrote:Except the picture above has some sort of Gothic arc went missing from the RE photo, and conversely misses SM style grill went on top. I also don't see dials anywhere, it's definitely not this.
I think he means the three-eyed figure facing us on the far left.
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Post by: Bird of prey
the zigzag line at the bottom gives me a chaos like impression.
Maybe this is a backpack for a new noisemarine model <3
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Now you mention it! That’s a fair guess.
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Post by: Theophony
Close up readout of the Delaque heavy weapon.
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Post by: ImAGeek
At least 2 ticked off here (sword and bird skull).
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Post by: zedmeister
Fur and chompy gob:
Claw:
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Post by: ImAGeek
The claw doesn’t exactly match any of the fiends claws from the sprue.
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Post by: aracersss
actually the claw doesn't match
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Post by: rtb02
Keeper of secrets then?...
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Post by: ImAGeek
Herald, maybe. I get the feeling it’s smaller than a KoS one would be.
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Post by: McMagnus Mindbullets
The claw could be a anything other slaanesh it did specifically say in the article AND THAT'S NOT ALL.
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Post by: Inquisitor Gideon
Looks like that harp pic from a while back was Slaneeshi
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Post by: highlord tamburlaine
Is that Karanak front and center?
I wouldn't be adverse to a bigger, more evil doggy!
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Post by: Irbis
I think the jaw isn't chaos doggos too. Maybe I am blind but I just don't see that one big tooth displayed front and center in RE picture. Plus, they have more regular teeth.
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Post by: aracersss
someone posted this in 4chan
... think OP never added that rumor leak to the OP thread
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
dead picture
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Post by: Oguhmek
Huh, it's a harp. Would not have guessed.
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Post by: zamerion
Something slaaneshi?
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Post by: terry
top part feels slaanesh but the rest less so, not sure why
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Slaaneshi low level mortal replacing hands with spikes to imitate Daemonettes?
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Post by: aracersss
what if it's a prosthetic for a pirate/corsair elf/human
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Post by: zedmeister
Looks like part of a bow
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Post by: Cataphract
I’d almost agree but look at the very top part above the ornate bit. There is a bit of a contortion that looks too organic, more like a wrist or arm bit is my guess.
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Post by: EnTyme
It looks an awful lot like the daggers the Blue Horrors wielded in Silver Tower.
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Post by: Lockark
This is what I'm thinking. Some think like a blood reaver or kairic cultists level mortal.
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Post by: Snrub
The squidgy bit at the top of the picture looks like part of an arm.
Maybe a punch dagger style weapon with a big ornate hand guard (basket?) bit that slips over the hand/wrist?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could be something on the end of thick hair?
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Post by: Galef
Wrath and Rapture has new plastic Flesh hounds and Fiends of Slaanesh, but I get the feeling that won't be all. Seems a waste of an opportunity not to release a Keeper of Secrets and have all the Daemon range finally updated to plastic (heralds already have plastic version in their chariot kits)
My guess would be that bit is a claw/sword for a Keeper that'll be in the Wraith & Rapture set, along with a BloodThirster so there is a GD on both sides
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Post by: ImAGeek
Galef wrote:Wrath and Rapture has new plastic Flesh hounds and Fiends of Slaanesh, but I get the feeling that won't be all. Seems a waste of an opportunity not to release a Keeper of Secrets and have all the Daemon range finally updated to plastic (heralds already have plastic version in their chariot kits)
My guess would be that bit is a claw/sword for a Keeper that'll be in the Wraith & Rapture set, along with a BloodThirster so there is a GD on both sides
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There’s not going to be a £70 (at least) brand new KoS in Wrath and Rapture. We’re most likely looking at a £95 Blightwar equivalent box here.
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Post by: Voss
Eh. I doubt very much that there will be one (let alone two) GDs in Wrath & Rapture. Thats a huge and pricey centerpiece kit, not something you stuff into a boxed game that will have only a slightly higher price point.
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Math digression:
Boxed games are usually about $150, 2 lowest cost GDs would be $230, fiends and fleshhounds are probably (once they come out) min $30 each (and potentially much higher given beasts of nurgle are $40 each, juggers are 3 for $50 6 for $100 and flies are 3 for $60), so we're are nearly $300 (assuming an unrealistic lowest price point possible) value with nothing but ~10 models. Unlikely at best.
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A unique herald sculpt seems more likely.
I won't be surprised if a Herald and Karanak will be the only 'unrevealed stuff' and likely the rest will be filled out with some existing daemon kits. An additional surprise or two for both gods would be nice, but it absolutely won't be two GDs.
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I'd expect a Keeper kit to come out in roughly the same time frame, however, and for the fleshhound and fiend kits not to. Much like the two buggies in Speed Freaks, those will be used to push sales.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could be more than one Herald type.
Nurgle got three. Regular, Sloppity Bilepiper (still love that name!) and Spoilpox Scrivener.
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Post by: Galef
I did not realize Wrath & Rapture had a price revealed. I agree a KoS is thus unlikely at that cost. Shame. It really is the final piece of the Daemon range that NEEEEEEEEDS a plastic update. Everything else has something plastic somewhere -
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Post by: Kanluwen
Galef wrote:I did not realize Wrath & Rapture had a price revealed. I agree a KoS is thus unlikely at that cost.
Shame. It really is the final piece of the Daemon range that NEEEEEEEEDS a plastic update. Everything else has something plastic somewhere
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It hasn't had a price revealed, but it's not hard to figure out the intention with the set.
We've already had hintings as to what it contains and that would put it at the Blight Wars price point. It having a KoS in it is incredibly wishful thinking that will just end up disappointing you.
You'll see a KoS come out-- GW has hinted/implied as much. It just won't be in Wrath & Rapture.
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Galef wrote:I did not realize Wrath & Rapture had a price revealed. I agree a KoS is thus unlikely at that cost.
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It hasn't, but the marketing of the boxed games is pretty consistent (barring the limited Titanicus All-the-Things edition), both in price and what they put in there. A $115+ single model doesn't make any sense to include in a box set, especially not a new one that will sell in its own right. Doubly so when the major draw (probably for multiple copies for some people, and I include myself there, since I'm working on that army) is the long awaited plastic fiends and fleshhounds. The GW marketing team would want whoever proposed that shuffled off for a psych eval.
Going by the pan on the Wrath and Rapture reveal trailer, the contents are
5 flesh hounds
? juggers
10 bloodletters
Probably Karanak (unrevealed)
3 fiends
5 seekers
10 daemonettes
probably unique herald (or new herald type (unrevealed)
That's pretty in line with this sort of boxed game. Possibly slightly more than usual, but they specifically pan over all those things in the reveal trailer and say more unrevealed models (which is at least 2)
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The KoS is clearly being set up on both game lines, it will be a big splash when it comes. But it will be available only as a $115-140 kit on its on (or technically a 1-click deal on the website, but whatever)
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Post by: MajorWesJanson
Voss wrote:Going by the pan on the Wrath and Rapture reveal trailer, the contents are
5 flesh hounds
? juggers
10 bloodletters
Probably Karanak (unrevealed)
3 fiends
5 seekers
10 daemonettes
probably unique herald (or new herald type (unrevealed)
That's pretty in line with this sort of boxed game. Possibly slightly more than usual, but they specifically pan over all those things in the reveal trailer and say more unrevealed models (which is at least 2)
3 Juggernauts and 5 hounds is about equivalent to 5 seekers and 3 fiends. 10 infantry on each side, Karanak for Khorne and the Slaaneshi herald with harp that is in the art as leaders.
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Post by: Lockark
You can tell by the scale of detail on the glove that this is a infantry sized modle. If a KoS that is pretty under detailed for something that large.
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Post by: Danny76
They have said there are more new models to come in the box too.
Though whether that just means plastic Karanak and Harp, or two heralds each side (my guess), rather than new units.
New Fiends and Hounds, 4 characters total, then one more unit each? That add up roughly to the usual £95 ish cost?
Or two more units each (one more new one each..)
Time will tell..
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Post by: Cataphract
Lockark wrote:
This is what I'm thinking. Some think like a blood reaver or kairic cultists level mortal.
I’m already tempted to convert a bunch of Kairc Acolytes to Slaanesh so this may stay my hand
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Post by: ImAGeek
Danny76 wrote:They have said there are more new models to come in the box too.
Though whether that just means plastic Karanak and Harp, or two heralds each side (my guess), rather than new units.
New Fiends and Hounds, 4 characters total, then one more unit each? That add up roughly to the usual £95 ish cost?
Or two more units each (one more new one each..)
Time will tell..
The video showed Bloodcrushers, Bloodletters, Daemonettes and Seekers. Looks like it’ll be 10 bloodletters, 3 bloodcrushers, 5 flesh hounds and Karanak vs 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 3 fiends and the harp herald.
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Post by: Lord Perversor
Newest rumour image!!
With armor and some fangs/mutation my bet is Chaos behind it.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
Something Chaos this way comes!
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Plastic Obliterator arm?
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Post by: Mr Insomniac
If I was a betting man I’d say that’s an obliterator arm. Looks like a mutated plasma cannon.
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Post by: terry
its a new stormcast chamber. The chamber in charge of creating new creatures for sigmar
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Looks to be about the right size I'd say. Not that we can really tell!
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Post by: Dudeface
Mr Insomniac wrote:If I was a betting man I’d say that’s an obliterator arm. Looks like a mutated plasma cannon.
It has to be, can't see what else it would be!
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Post by: Cataphract
Put me in mind of the Warp Talons Jump packs
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Post by: rollawaythestone
A while back, there were rumours of new Abaddon and Obliterators on the way.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Dudeface wrote:Mr Insomniac wrote:If I was a betting man I’d say that’s an obliterator arm. Looks like a mutated plasma cannon.
It has to be, can't see what else it would be!
Slanesh Chaos Titan crotch cannon?
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Post by: bubber
new hellbrute 'power fist' for the Black Legion?
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Post by: timetowaste85
It’s chaos, for sure, and it definitely looks similar to the plasma cannon of a mauler/forge fiend. That would make it super likely to be an Obliterator. Meaning it’ll probably be Dorn stepping on the crushed body of an Obliterator or something after curb stomping it!
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Post by: EnTyme
Abaddon and the Obliterators would be a great Black Metal band name.
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Post by: Bloodmaster
EnTyme wrote:
Abaddon and the Obliterators would be a great Black Metal band name.
Nice! But something tells me, Abbi is more of a hair metal guy.
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Post by: Daedalus81
I hope they dual kit with Multilators and give them good rules. I loved running those guys as janky as they were.
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Post by: Haighus
Oooh, Chaos.
Obliterators is a good shout. I could also see it being a new Havocs kit (with more options- namely plasma cannons), or maybe even something for Noise Marines.
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Post by: Thargrim
I dont know what that is but it looks chaos. I'd love to see the undivided or basic chaos marines get an update. The new blackstone fortress pair make the current csm kit look really dated.
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Post by: Voss
Daedalus81 wrote:
I hope they dual kit with Multilators and give them good rules. I loved running those guys as janky as they were.
That does make me think mutilators more than oblits. A plastic kit for both could be interesting.
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Looking at it, how accurately can we judge the scale from the evident brushstrokes?
Genuine question,
Because this is clearly some kind of plasma weapon. But if we can reasonably inform from the brushstrokes whether it’s pistol, gun or cannon sized?
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Post by: lord_blackfang
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Looking at it, how accurately can we judge the scale from the evident brushstrokes?
Genuine question,
Because this is clearly some kind of plasma weapon. But if we can reasonably inform from the brushstrokes whether it’s pistol, gun or cannon sized?
Dreadnought cannon sized, I'd say. You can't pack that much teeth much smaller.
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Post by: ceorron
Thinking maybe Chaos (of course) warhound titan weapon. As others have said looks both big and small at the same time (if that makes any sense). I'm hoping for chaos marine or maybe obliterator weapon though. Automatically Appended Next Post: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Looking at it, how accurately can we judge the scale from the evident brushstrokes?
Genuine question,
Because this is clearly some kind of plasma weapon. But if we can reasonably inform from the brushstrokes whether it’s pistol, gun or cannon sized?
Yeah great observation, looking at the brush strokes and going from 40k, it is most likely a plasma gun, if I had to pick one (or maybe plasma cannon). Could be redone Choas terminators?
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Post by: Galef
Good call on the brush stroke, Mad Doc. I don't think it is going to be a particularly large model, like a Helbrute, given that the highlight look too thick for that.
But is also doesn't look like it would be too small either, like a pistol, due to how many "teeth" are packed in.
It's most likely a medium sized bit, like a plasma gun or arm of an Oblit.
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Post by: Kosake
Or it is not 28mm-sized but instead for Titanicus. Then the small size would allow for a Titan-grade Weapon and we're back to square one.
The Obliterator/Mutilator kit has been redone a couple years ago, so I don't think it'll be them. Havocs - or, for that matter a chaos marines basic infantry kit - would be A+, but when was the last time that GW remade the baseline infantry kit for a factions?
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Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik
Could be for a new, as yet unseen Tank type?
Obliterator kit was redone 15+ years ago, for the 13th Black Crusade that wasn’t  Mutilators are just hideous alt arms and bonces.
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Post by: drbored
I wouldn't be surprised by a new Obliterator kit. I'd love it honestly if the Mutilators went the way of the dodo. They were crap in the codex that released with them, which is saying something.
But the Obliterators need a redesign.
I think I'd be happier if it was a new kit though.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
drbored wrote:I wouldn't be surprised by a new Obliterator kit. I'd love it honestly if the Mutilators went the way of the dodo. They were crap in the codex that released with them, which is saying something.
I've been collecting Chaos for 20 years and I can't remember a single Chaos kit that had good rules on first release. Maybe the first Obliterator resculpt with Codex 3.5 if you want to count that.
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Post by: Haighus
lord_blackfang wrote:drbored wrote:I wouldn't be surprised by a new Obliterator kit. I'd love it honestly if the Mutilators went the way of the dodo. They were crap in the codex that released with them, which is saying something.
I've been collecting Chaos for 20 years and I can't remember a single Chaos kit that had good rules on first release. Maybe the first Obliterator resculpt with Codex 3.5 if you want to count that.
Heldrake?
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Post by: bubber
latest image:
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Post by: terry
it has a 40k vibe, probably imperium could also be chaos
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Post by: Haighus
My first thought was maybe some kind of backpack piece, with the arrows suggesting Chaos.
However, upon closer inspection it looks like a tactical map display of a battlefield, with the arrows being routes of attack or something! Some kind of Strategeos or command centre model?
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Post by: BrookM
Tactical map display it is.
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Post by: JohnnyHell
Persistent Stratagems! The New, New Warhammer 40,000! Cats and dogs, living together!
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Primeris drop pod control console?
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Post by: Kanluwen
Ohhhhhhhhhhhh man...I wonder if they're planning a new Guard Commander model?
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Post by: Tiberius501
Yeah that definitely looks like some sort of tactical map. Looks like 3D buildings and arrows to suggest direction of troop assaults.
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Post by: Bloodmaster
Money's on Hololithic tactical table for either Primaris or IG - something released along the lines of Vigilius. But probably I am wrong and its a tacisquig....
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Post by: CassianSol
Objective marker or the equivalent of an endless spell.
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