Verviedi wrote: Why not have the spiders suspended by those silk "parachutes" that baby spiders make? That would be fun.
Here are some reasons I can think of: 1) They can't find a "parachute" design that works with the aesthetic of everything else they have. 2) Modeling an Open parachute that doesn't snap off and still looks recognizable is a pain to do, though if it was folded up this would be less relevant. 3) They decided that the concept of spiders using silk parachutes was too obscure/recondite for their customers. Or 4) They decided that the concept of spiders using silk parachutes was too much nightmare fuel for the general public .
Honestly I'd lean towards the first and third ideas, because it's a concept that sounds cool on paper (or in a story) but is difficult to visualize, especially in three dimensions.
Yodhrin wrote: See, Magical-Steampunk Corporate Skyprivateer Dwarfs, Spongebob Cthulu Elves, (hopefully)Spider-Gobbo Ramshackle Skypirates - where was all this before? Nearly two years of Land Marines, Slightly Bigger Orcs, and More Khorne Because It's Always Khorne seems like such a wasted opportunity if they had all this mental stuff in their back pocket.
Well, maybe they focused on a faction similiar to Space Marines, they thought would sell well and the ever present arch enemy of everything, Chaos, to introduce a new system and recover from dwindling WHFB sales, while going into full brainstorming/production mode for new factions for the next two years and we're now seeing the results of this?
The Land Marines were inevitable, they're practically the entire reason Age of Sigmar exists rather than the studio putting in the effort to fix WHFB, but "Chaos" and "Khorne" are not synonymous - they'd have been far better served to make the initial antagonist Tzeentch, a magical adversary for a high-magic setting. Besides which, despite them being overly similar to previous WHF factions, I doubt any less effort went into designing Big Orcs, Slayers 2.0, or Dryadelfs than has the factions that will be coming over the next few months, and the rough concepts for most of this stuff will have been ready back then - I think rather that GW decided to play it safe and make the initial factions ones that were recognisable to WHF fans.
Lets remember as well, the best info we have is that WHFB was still profitable, just not as profitable as GW wanted it to be, there was no urgent impending fiscal doom looming if GW didn't can WHFB and get AoS out the door right now, if they rushed it that was entirely their own fault. Indeed, if they'd taken their time a bit more, maybe finished off 8th Edition's last couple of book updates rather than cacking out the End Times debacle, then launched AoS as replacement product for WHFB rather than as a replacement setting for WHF(ie, if they hadn't explicitly killed WHF and left the connection to AoS nebulous) already at General's Handbook level ruleswise and with the initial few months releases being Stormcast, Tzeentch, Kharadron, and Cthulu Elves, I would bet single malt money they wouldn't just have had a better reception to AoS they'd have created a lot fewer bitter grogs who'll be badmouthing them to potential new customers for years to come.
Anyway, the Kharadron stuff and the prospect of these Cthulu Elves is a step in the right direction, we'll see if they can keep it up or if they go back to playing it safe again.
I think that GW could design khorne models in their sleep. It is a very safe army to go with. The stormcast are just good guy chaos warriors. The design is very similar to the plastic chaos lord. I imagine it did not take too long to go from concept to production of these minis. The more unfamiliar the faction, the longer it takes to produce concepts, art, miniatures, rules and fluff.
Even the new version of the stormcast book came alongside some more unusual, visually interesting minis.
I hope the positive reaction to the overlords translates into more original concepts in the future.
Ok, a like wyvern-like creature, perching on a humanoid arm, like if it was ready for hawking, some kind of heavy chain net, and now a sea shell.
I can't not believe is not a Scourge Privateers expansion. I will be very upset if it isn't. And I'm expecting to see something as good as the Sylvaneth expansion.
A big sea dragon, or a big ship, damn even FW could release a Black Ark.
it indeed looks very nurgly. And seeing how the rot flies(mounths from the plague drones) use a cocoon to go from beast of nurgle to rot flies. I could see how gw wants the beast of nurgle to be more insect like. So a multiple legged creature could be a great start to do just that. So it could very well be a new beast of nurgle model.
Definitely looks Nurgle to me. It could also be some sort of disgusting Death flesh construct, but it differs a lot from the current aesthetic.
I wonder if we're just gonna see a lot of Nurgle this year. When they did Thousand Sons, they also used the opportunity to release Blue Horrors, Brimstone Horrors, Tzaangors, and the new LoC which crosses both games. I have a feeling we'll see something similar for Nurgle - Beasts and the GUO need to be redone at the very least, and they might release Zombies/Plague Cultists with melee weapons that can swap over much like the Tzaangors. Makes a lot of sense to cross promote games.
Would be nice if its a beast as the current one is plain crap.
Being finecast and having mould issues actually improves the thing.
Would love to see the rumoured GUO in plastic too.
Aslong as it's not khorne though I don't mind.
Fed up with khorne releases now and want the other gods to get some new stuff atleast.
Requizen wrote: Definitely looks Nurgle to me. It could also be some sort of disgusting Death flesh construct, but it differs a lot from the current aesthetic.
I wonder if we're just gonna see a lot of Nurgle this year. When they did Thousand Sons, they also used the opportunity to release Blue Horrors, Brimstone Horrors, Tzaangors, and the new LoC which crosses both games. I have a feeling we'll see something similar for Nurgle - Beasts and the GUO need to be redone at the very least, and they might release Zombies/Plague Cultists with melee weapons that can swap over much like the Tzaangors. Makes a lot of sense to cross promote games.
We've seen the Plague Zombies and they're rocking autorifles from the looks of things.
I wouldn't expect to see them as a "crossover". Plague Zombies were always kind of downplayed on the Fantasy side of things(likely because it steps on the toes of Vampires a bit heavily), with the Plaguetouched on that side turning into Plaguebearers instead.
I can definitely see Beasts and GUO, maybe a new type of Daemon that the Beasts are a dual kit with?
Hm, there's something about this that's giving me an aquatic vibe. So along with the other two hints recently and if it is Nurgle, maybe something to do with Gutrot Spume?
Would be nice if its a beast as the current one is plain crap.
Being finecast and having mould issues actually improves the thing.
Would love to see the rumoured GUO in plastic too.
Aslong as it's not khorne though I don't mind.
Fed up with khorne releases now and want the other gods to get some new stuff atleast.
We've just gotten 1k sons and disciples of tzeentch. So now we only need nurgle(and we are getting death guard, so thats some nurgle already) and slaanesh
TeutonicAvenger on B&C made this screencap of the DG video, to show it has some tanks in the background. Maybe there is more hidden in the background of that video, related to the rumor engine beast?
Warhams-77 wrote: TeutonicAvenger on B&C made this screencap of the DG video, to show it has some tanks in the background. Maybe there is more hidden in the background of that video, related to the rumor engine beast?
Here's a cleaned up, brighter version of all dark images from the DG trailer. Since you asked.
This does also call into question the Shell and Chains releases. If they are still for AOS then they are now more likely to be for the Rotbringers of Nurgle rather than Shadowkin or Fishmen.
The Hallowed Knights are invading Nurgle's Garden in a novel set for release in June. We may see the first peaks of the Rotbringers then. They are also mentioned in the Sylvaneth anthology, where we see Hallowed Knights and Sylvaneth battling Blightkings and a mutant horde of Nurgle worshippers.
Warhams-77 wrote: Oni, these could be pre-production 3d-printed or resin models
I admire your positive attitude, but that's not likely to be the case.
It actually is.
I believe that they said a few weeks ago on Warhammer Live that some of the Rumor Engine previews are resin masters, not actually resin. And also that the painters sometimes get the production masters to paint for promo material.
There were a few single, limited edition models like the Canoness and Slambo, but no new model kits in finecast. GW stopped using that material for their core ranges
Warhams-77 wrote: There were a few single, limited edition models like the Canoness and Slambo, but no new model kits in finecast. GW stopped using that material for their core ranges
Those weren't limited editions, they were character pieces that are still available. But they haven't used any resin for full releases for a few years now I believe.
Yeah I'm going to agree I have a hard time imagining those little nubby feet looking like they belong to flying cthulhu style creatures of aelf sky pirates.
Those feet look so perfect for a Nurgle turtle. I thought about building one if ever have reason to cut the feet of another plaguebearer, maybe I should hurry before someone else uses this for it. A Nurgle dino has a nice ring to it, too.
If is its a Beast of Nurgle it may form the basis of a new chariot of Nurgle, he is the only one without a chariot right now. The bad news is if you just want Beasts of Nurgle GW may not sell these new ones separately.
I think it's actually base filler like the maggots or nurglings from the Plaguebearers box - could just be a small Nurgle caterpillar for a much larger base *cough* Great Unclean One *cough*
Zhrukal wrote: If is its a Beast of Nurgle it may form the basis of a new chariot of Nurgle, he is the only one without a chariot right now. The bad news is if you just want Beasts of Nurgle GW may not sell these new ones separately.
if that is the case, I'd be fine with that - just need to pick up some extra 60mm bases and do a little model-tweaking...each "chariot" equals however many "steeds" it comes with worth of beasts...plus leftover bits for cool conversions from the "chariot" parts
Warhams-77 wrote: Oni, these could be pre-production 3d-printed or resin models
A good percentage of 'Eavy Metal models you see in the White Dwarf or box art photography is resin.
I remember the resin Taurox getting people into trouble, because it made it into the WD despite a lot of warped parts (front grill and left front tracks not sitting on the floor).
Spoiler:
The entire Burning of Prospero set on the box and in the rule book is resin. Photography had choice words for Prospero Ahriman, because the fragile parts of the miniature kept breaking.
Elbows wrote: Very much looks like a simple Plague Marine with a plasma gun to me. Have Plague Marines ever been able to use heavy weapons in later editions?
Weren't there Plague Havocs?
I get a plasma vibe from that weapon, but we have been getting "Ectoplasm" weapons for Chaos stuff too right?
I haven't seen a Chaos codex since 2nd. They used to be allowed one special weapon (and your champion could carry some junk if he joined the squad). I'd never seen heavy weapon Plague Marines.
Is it just me, or do those legs look impossible to cast in plastic? There are several places where they seem to curve in a way which would require a soft mould, unless they are made from a bunch of different pieces and joined together with very well concealed seams.
nagash42 wrote: For a minute there it looked like a grav gun.
It's the Death-Guard variety known as The Chav Gun, causes a wasting of neural matter along with strange outbreaks of a blotchy brown black tartanesque rash
It looks like a chibo figure or a toddlers toy. Looks really childish and silly.
(in your opinion )
...in my opinion, it looks about how the legs of a festering, bloated, slug/maggot abomination "beast of nurgle" should look.
Oh, I don't know, I think Nurgle could definitely get into the toddler toy business.
"Hey kids! (Cough, cough, hack-wheeze) Come give my new buddies a great big hug! Then, go home and hug your family and friends. You'll all be feeling-hack, cough-the warmth of Nurgle's love in no time!"
But yeah, the way those legs have mucus lines connecting them these things are going to be disgusting when they're painted up.
Dakka Flakka Flame wrote: Maybe the multi-leg thing is a Palanquin of Nurgle? They don't have a current model of that, right?
I could even see a Beast/Palanquin dual kit using those legs and different upper parts.
That would be my guess too as most likely candidate. With the upcoming DG release, they're either not going to release a unit that can use it, or they're going to have to make one for it.
If exalted sorcerers got one, these will need one too.
So, they just asked "What in the realms/galaxy could this be?".
Plastic Nurgle Beast. Easy.
I don't see how people could expect so many hooves fitting on a 32mm base for a Blood Bowl resin Beast.
Also, not because it has a grey-white color means that it is resin. So far there have been several entries showing sculpts with the same color and as far as I remember they have all been plastic.
Baron Klatz wrote: Oh, I don't know, I think Nurgle could definitely get into the toddler toy business.
"Hey kids! (Cough, cough, hack-wheeze) Come give my new buddies a great big hug! Then, go home and hug your family and friends. You'll all be feeling-hack, cough-the warmth of Nurgle's love in no time!"
But yeah, the way those legs have mucus lines connecting them these things are going to be disgusting when they're painted up.
oh man...you just reminded me of this ...a big green worm/maggot-shaped stuffed toy/nightlight
Spoiler:
...and yeah, I'm ridiculously happy that this looks like a new beast...I've really wanted to get some beasts for a while now, but the current model is just awful - maybe GW's worst current model, imo...I've even been looking all over the place at third-party stores and stuff, but haven't found anything quite right...my next step was going to be just trying to sculpt my own, which probably would've gone poorly
...I'm gonna be all over these when they're eventually for sale, can't wait!
Perfect Organism wrote: Is it just me, or do those legs look impossible to cast in plastic? There are several places where they seem to curve in a way which would require a soft mould, unless they are made from a bunch of different pieces and joined together with very well concealed seams.
The nurglings are kind of melded together with seams in that kind of way, I definitely see this being some kind of nurgle beast. Seams will be hidden with layers of rotting fat. Will it be as generic as a standard beast of Nurgle? Can't really tell...
I will be immensely surprised if this isn't part of the Nurgle release.
Roknar wrote: Questions is, will it be sigmar skaven or blood bowl.
There also seems to be a bit of scenery visible on the base that looks like the edge of a stone block to me. That would lean more toward Sigmar than BB.
Azreal13 wrote: Largely incidental, but just in case people haven't noticed, this is a b+w pic of a painted model, not a colour pic of grey plastic/resin.
Huh good point. I think it is to disguise the different colours of the surface the skaven is riding. It seems like some sort of "rails" so to speak.
Why must GW take my money? If it's just a simple beastclaw raiders update to them I can pass since I don't like a large chunk of the skaven minature range (even if they look cool as heck in games and have good lore).
If it's a full mini-army release like Kharadron Overlords I'm going to be much more tempted. AoS could possibly be hitting it out of the park one army after another for me this year. What next a new sepharon range?
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Just looked up Skyre current range and it's most of the models I like. *sigh* Why must you do this GW. So Kharadron, Clan Skyrre, and possibly new dark ealfs (whateber they called). Basically all my fav old hammer factions. All I need now is a new lizardmen range to compliment the good existing one and I'll be set for AoS collecting for years. What then GW? Fishmen themed to bioshock? New version of Ogor Kingdoms?
highlord tamburlaine wrote: Skyre should get to go full steampunk. Not fair the dwarfs got to, as the rats did it first!
If the Skysquats turned the steam dial to 10, let the rats turn it to 13.
Mechanical limbs and bits every which way!
Multipart engineers!
Tunneling machines!
Outlandish firearms!
Thumbs up to all these ideas!
Skryre are already full steampunk, since they are the steampunk faction of Skaven split off on their own. Further, we already have the second two things.on the list! What Skryre really needs is plastic jezzails and a dual-build infantry kit for globadiers and a new unit. I'm also expecting a $25 kit that builds two weapon teams; a wft/ratling model and a mortar/grinder model.
At least we've got the Veer-myn to help with those needs.
I'll consider clan Skyre to be fully steampunk when I see fully steampunk Skyre kits on the shelves that aren't just war machines. Outside of old Pestilens and Ehsin kits we really don't have much in the way clan specific battle line Skaven.
Bottle wrote: Clan Skyre have already been rumoured for this year by (IIRC) Hastings.
I've actually seen a couple Skaven pieces of art with my own eyes, so whether its soon, or later, I know there is stuff coming. I also couldn't tell you if they were character models, or just dynamic poses, but my inclination is that what I saw was for Shadespire.
Johnny The Lictor wrote: Wait a minute... The top says "Revenant Legions". What could that mean?
Hopefully it means a re-name to 'Deathrattle' and 'Deadwalker' factions. I cringe every time I read the latter.
They could be doing what they did with Tzeentch and Khorne and combining some of the forces to make them easier to field. The Bloodbound are still Bloodbound, and Daemons are still Daemons, but they can now be fielded together without losing bonuses.
Requizen wrote: The front clearly says Deathrattle. Revenant Legions is probably just a cute descriptor for Death armies.
Ooooh the revenant legions of nagash? That would be a cool name, perhaps this is the name of our tome akin to disciples of tzeentch and blades of khorne. Since many of the death's units have abilities that work cross faction.
Not-not-kenny wrote: So will the reboxed skeletons be released with a new Deathrattle Battletome or is it just to coincide with the Underworlds release?
Shadespire isn't supposed to be until later this year, per GW themselves.
I think that this is ramping up to whatever the narrative/summer event that has been said to be happening will contain.
Turns out the "big" news was that 8th edition is coming. 1 minute video, link to a site with no info. The only thing "big" is that it says "get started, choose below" and the options are Chaos, Imperium, and Xenos.
Elbows wrote: Turns out the "big" news was that 8th edition is coming. 1 minute video, link to a site with no info. The only thing "big" is that it says "get started, choose below" and the options are Chaos, Imperium, and Xenos.
It's weird how it seems to have both Eldar and Tau iconography on it, unless that circle symbol is something Eldar I've never seen before (though it looks like the Tau icongrapghy for septs with it being circles and lines).
Lord Kragan wrote: Okay, the circle seems to be Tash'Var sept. This and the skull makes me thing this will be artwork or the cover for the new codex for the xenos races.
It is the icon for Tash'var but at the wrong angle. Tash'var is that icon but set at an angle rather than straight.
It's kind of strange though. Tash'var is a nothing Sept. It's a frontier Sept that is known for producing really aggressive Breacher Teams because of their proximity to Ork Waaghs.
Or the cover for the new 40k book in general - maybe split into thirds to represent the 3 factions, with individual race/group symbols within the respective third.
jearrington wrote: Or the cover for the new 40k book in general - maybe split into thirds to represent the 3 factions, with individual race/group symbols within the respective third.
That would be my guess, a new 40k symbol in a circle of faction icons.
Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.
Just looking at my watch face, each icon there is taking up the "space" of an hour on a standard 12 hour watch face. So, twelve...and possibly a clock as mentioned.
Interesting. Probably xenos book art as said. I hope it's got enough fluff to satisfy me. Unless it's pure rules. I wonder if this updates all the xenos lore in brief for the new edition? Then faction specific books will add more depth?
Not-not-kenny wrote: Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.
Not-not-kenny wrote: Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.
definitely 12, here ya go
Awesome! And that mirror image really makes it look like some kind of insect/humanoid hybrid skull, Genestealer Cults?
12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.
Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition? If so thank the lords of GW. In order of the one I want to see most. Completely new xenos faction > Demiurg > Kroot > Tau Auxiliaries > Eldar Exodites > Rak'Gol > hrud
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults
Gamgee wrote: 12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.
Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults
Gamgee wrote: 12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.
Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults
Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.
Gamgee wrote: 12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.
Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults
Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.
Well yeah they are repeating since it's a photoshop of the actual GW leak since a poster asked for it. So yeah it looks like they are repeating. Also the other has been identified as a Tau sept. The poster wanted to know how much symbols could be on the xenos clock and the answer appears to be 12.
Gamgee wrote: 12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.
Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?
Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults
Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.
Well yeah they are repeating since it's a photoshop of the actual GW leak since a poster asked for it. So yeah it looks like they are repeating. Also the other has been identified as a Tau sept.
Ah, I missed that its a photoshop.
Well, that certainly makes it interesting. I hope its not some grand xenos alliance though. Necrons should not working with Eldar, Tau would probably not with Orks, and no one would trust tyranids.
Could just be an Eldar / Tau thing. Maybe GW read the fan theories about Tau being engineered by Eldar or something.
Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.
Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.
Gamgee wrote: Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.
Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.
Seriously?
We're calling it a "fan theory"?
Since day one it's been hinted, in the original Tau Codex and accompanying WD articles, that the Warp storm that protected the Tau was created by the Eldar and/or Old Ones to protect the Tau from the Imperium.
I also hope it won't be like the AoS Grand Alliance books, but I do believe the live q&a mentioned allies so maybe the xenos book contains an updated version of the allies matrix? There might even be something similar in the Chaos book for allying forces pledged to different gods.
So if Tau and Eldar are in a book together (this appears to be the case), what the heck does this mean for the 5 books? Perhaps one of the books is simply a small rulebook and the other four are the codexes?
just putting it out there, it may well not actually be 12 different symbols for different xenos races or whatever, it could just be "generic eldritch symbols", like on the ruins in the deathworld forest terrain kit...
...I mean, it probably is a piece of artwork from a coming "grand alliance: xenos" type book or something...but still...
Gamgee wrote: Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.
Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.
Someone on the 8th ed rumor thread mentioned that War of Sigmar stated Imperium and Chaos will basically be grand alliances, but Xenos will not. Haven't had a chance to check out the blog myself, but I'm sure this is the case.
One has to be the 40k generals hadnbook with all the rules. I think these books will be fluff books.
Well the big question is. Do we think they have time to make unique individual rules for all the xenos already? The battletomb's in AoS now add unique rules that are faction specific. So if there are any rules like that they will be in there, but then again... why? It removes the individuality of the battletombs of AoS and really dilutes how much you can do.
I think these will be 3-4 fluff books and then the 40k generals handbook.
1 general setting book, 1 for the Imperium, 1 for Chaos, and 1 for Xenos setting up the major events of the new 40k setting.
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Make it the old ones or even the Necrons or something else who created the Tau, but the Eldar... ugh.... what next space marines in tau battle suits?
ZoBo wrote: just putting it out there, it may well not actually be 12 different symbols for different xenos races or whatever, it could just be "generic eldritch symbols", like on the ruins in the deathworld forest terrain kit...
...I mean, it probably is a piece of artwork from a coming "grand alliance: xenos" type book or something...but still...
The Tau rune is the Tash'var one. If it hasn't been posted. I almost made my army from Tash'var which is kind of funny I decided on Kel'shan sept instead before the big disaster that led my commander to join the FSE. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tash'var
Gamgee wrote: One has to be the 40k generals hadnbook with all the rules. I think these books will be fluff books.
Well the big question is. Do we think they have time to make unique individual rules for all the xenos already? The battletomb's in AoS now add unique rules that are faction specific. So if there are any rules like that they will be in there, but then again... why? It removes the individuality of the battletombs of AoS and really dilutes how much you can do.
I think these will be 3-4 fluff books and then the 40k generals handbook.
1 general setting book, 1 for the Imperium, 1 for Chaos, and 1 for Xenos setting up the major events of the new 40k setting.
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Make it the old ones or even the Necrons or something else who created the Tau, but the Eldar... ugh.... what next space marines in tau battle suits?
If AoS is anything to go by (which you seem to assume, so I'll do that too for this bit) and if the 40K equivalent of the GHB is the fifth book then the other four won't be pure fluff. The GHB has rules and scenarios for the three ways to play, points for every warscroll, and command traits/artefacts for the grand alliances. Meanwhile the grand alliance books have fluff for all the factions in them (slightly more than what is available online, but not as in depth as in a battletome/codex) and all the warscrolls + some battalions.
As I figured. I like the AoS style way of doing things anyways so no qualms here if it turns out to be that way. I'll likely grab the generalist book and the Xenos.
Gamgee wrote: As I figured. I like the AoS style way of doing things anyways so no qualms here if it turns out to be that way. I'll likely grab the generalist book and the Xenos.
I'm still not convinced however that the fifth book is a 40KGHB. I can't remember from the exact wording in the stream whether it would be 5 books in total wherein the grand alliance equivalents would all be represented or if they said 5 ga books and maybe they'll release a GHB that they haven't mentioned yet as well.
Not-not-kenny wrote: Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.
definitely 12, here ya go
Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?
Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?
It does.. But Ambull are kinda like dumb bugs.. that are a massive nuisance as they tend to burrow everywhere. But could be that Tyranids are in another book
Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?
It does.. But Ambull are kinda like dumb bugs.. that are a massive nuisance as they tend to burrow everywhere. But could be that Tyranids are in another book
If shaft gets this right I will be amazed. Like in awe. First of all since GW is doing a new xenos race and second because he got it right. Still didn't someone up above say it looked like a nid skull?
If shaft gets this right I will be amazed. Like in awe. First of all since GW is doing a new xenos race and second because he got it right. Still didn't someone up above say it looked like a nid skull?
Hmmm well what if they are hinting at the next release and book? We seen art of the Kharadron teased I think and they also got models. Would be amazing if they put out a new xenos. I would have to put Kharadron Overlords on pause for sure.
Whatever it is, it is certainly rough in this picture. It definitely has an Orky feel to it - but goblin secret weapons for blood bowl could definitely look like this.
They have not previewed a specialists games thing yet. I am going for new ork stuff for the Armageddon campaign they have been hinting at.
Also all the minis they produce in plastic have a resin version cast up first, specifically so that it can be painted in time to produce the box art.
I'm guessing an ork biker (image is of a left ork hand holding onto a handlebar from the bike, with an offensive chainsaw blade (perfect for charging into close combat for 8th edition ) .
Valhallan_Ice_Warrior wrote: I'm guessing an ork biker (image is of a left ork hand holding onto a handlebar from the bike, with an offensive chainsaw blade (perfect for charging into close combat for 8th edition ) .
Interesting - could be a part of a rerelease of a speed freaks that finally have a biker boss or (dare I say it...) Wazzdakka....
Chikout wrote: They have not previewed a specialists games thing yet. I am going for new ork stuff for the Armageddon campaign they have been hinting at.
Also all the minis they produce in plastic have a resin version cast up first, specifically so that it can be painted in time to produce the box art.
They previewed the Skaven Bloodbowl booster models.
Chikout wrote: They have not previewed a specialists games thing yet. I am going for new ork stuff for the Armageddon campaign they have been hinting at.
Also all the minis they produce in plastic have a resin version cast up first, specifically so that it can be painted in time to produce the box art.
They previewed the Skaven Bloodbowl booster models.
It's a gobbo, the secret weapons booster.
I've taken a look at that booster pack and none of the Skaven have a tail similar to the one from the rumour image.
Still, it might be a gobbo secret weapon, but for now I'm rooting it is the new Warbike. Hastlings rumoured them being in production and a Goblin team would probably have less importance over a Chaos or elven team.
Chikout wrote: They have not previewed a specialists games thing yet. I am going for new ork stuff for the Armageddon campaign they have been hinting at.
Also all the minis they produce in plastic have a resin version cast up first, specifically so that it can be painted in time to produce the box art.
They previewed the Skaven Bloodbowl booster models.
It's a gobbo, the secret weapons booster.
Except that tail doesn't match any of the booster models'.
Gotta be an ork of some kind. Looks like some sort of weird power weapon. That or the most extreme lacrosse stick ever and we're getting blood lacrosse.
The fist pose does fit very well into being biker hand unless the part on right is the bottom side of weapon(rather than say "blade" of a sword).
I like theory of speed freaks though bikers don't really need new kit. Then again GW hasn't been fan of updating old models so could be new unit entirely. Nob bikers in plastic! Or super-nob bikers for completely new unit.
the area between the hand and the chainsaw-blade does look like a badmoonz logo:
so it could be some new ork kit...I sure wouldn't complain about that! ...that said, night goblins especially use that symbol a lot too, so it could be some crazy bloodbowl thing...I dunno...would a chainsaw thing work in bloodbowl for goblins?...not sure if they have that kind of tech?
ZoBo wrote: the area between the hand and the chainsaw-blade does look like a badmoonz logo:
so it could be some new ork kit...I sure wouldn't complain about that! ...that said, night goblins especially use that symbol a lot too, so it could be some crazy bloodbowl thing...I dunno...would a chainsaw thing work in bloodbowl for goblins?...not sure if they have that kind of tech?
That's what I thought. That design looks suspiciously Orky. I don't think its a goblin; the hand doesn't look right.
I suspect it might be a new Warboss or Nob model, and that thing is a big choppa.
People said the other resolved images were resin to. To my recollection I don't think any of the resolved ones have been resin despite some looking that way.
The rumored goblin team is supposed to be plastic, the bonus special weapon wielding ones are likely a forgeworld kit. This just looks like the chainsaw wielding one. Which means the pogo stick and others are likely coming too.
The studio usually paint up resin masters as opposed to plastic as they're often working so far ahead of the release schedule (if you look carefully at previous miniatures you can easily tell which are resin masters - the Taurox springs to mind) so this could very well end up being a plastic kit.
Looking at it, the position of what (I assume) is a hand/clenched fist with a possible armoured knee behind it, I think it could be Ork, possibly even as Nob? Wielding some kind of dakka gun with chain blade attachment at the bottom end? Or it's a dual edged rippa for a new combat unit? I'm calling it now - Rippa Boyz
angelofvengeance wrote: It's resin. Therefore unlikely to be Age of Sigmar. None of the new releases have been in resin. Very definitely BloodBowl.
None of the rumor engine preview have been Forge World. Several, though, have been resin masters that are later released as plastic kits. This definitely looks like resin, but the actual model will almost certainly be plastic (and GW).
To me it looks definitely like a goblin Bad Moon symbol: look at the holes, as teeth, the rund rivet as an eye, right next to the nose.
Definitely goblin. Also, the hand has skinny, slender fingers, not the ham-sized ork fists.
Definitely a goblin/grot. Possibly from Blood Bowl, as the Bad Moon is the symbol of night goblins, and as far as I know, except the crypt flayers, they didn't add anything new for the "old" AOS factions.
My money is on a blood bowl goblin.
No Bad Moonz Ork would let a grot show so much snazz, and I find it hard to think an AoS release would show up "moonclan grotz" with chainsaws.
The aesthetic is also way too polished to be used in AOS...
I think that the bloodbowl chainsaw goblin seems most likely, but if it is an ork kit there are two options which strike me as likely to receive a new kit soon and have handlebars; deffkoptas and wartrakks. Deffkoptas even have an upgrade where they get some kind of cutting blade attachment in the current rules despite this not featuring in either the original kit or the black reach ones.
yeah it looks rough as guts...but, I'll bet that's just a 3D printed (or a resin cast of a 3D print) early mock-up, not the final product
...mind you, if I'm wrong on that, and that is the final product, then by all means, feel free to be rightfully pissed off ...because that is definitely too rough to call done
Ha, I just mentioned that in the other thread. I cant tell what that dude is with the chainsaw. Its curious that they would leak a photo of a model not in its finished state. I love that they are giving us a glimpse of the process, but they should leak before and after at the same time.
Or Skaven or Elf Blood Bowl stuff. Wow, the chainsaw fella is frikkin' terrible. I've been incredibly unimpressed with "most" of the Blood Bowl stuff I've seen.
Elbows wrote: Or Skaven or Elf Blood Bowl stuff. Wow, the chainsaw fella is frikkin' terrible. I've been incredibly unimpressed with "most" of the Blood Bowl stuff I've seen.
Forgeworld's models are pretty uninspired if you ask me. GW's seem better.
This is almost definitely for AoS or Shadespire, but otherwise hard to tell. The lack of scrolls points me away from Stormcast, but I could see this for our a new Death unit, or for an Aelf.
Bestigors have a similar diamond on their arm bands as well. Doubt it's skaven or chaos. Too uniform and elegant looking. My money is on it being either of the elvish or stormcast variety.
I've seen too many different races use similar gems to use that as a divining rod. I'm more focused on the overall style. I agree that it looks like some sort of arcane collar or staff, likely for an Aelf mage.
I'm going to take a leap of faith (and wishlisting) and say that GW is just on-the-nose enough to leak a picture of a Lion for the Lion El'Jonson model
Hanskrampf wrote: Huh, I doubt High Elves will get anything new without a complete redesign.
Maybe a Hero character for the Stormcast Vanguard Auxiliaries? They already all wear pelts and furs, this would be the next step for a Hero.
High Elves as a whole don't need to get anything new or a redesign necessarily.
White Lions became their own "subfaction", the Lion Rangers. They currently have two units--White Lions and the Lion Chariot.
Could be a plastic hero, since Korhil got discontinued.
Yes. Sanguinius has the pelt of a Carnodon over his shoulder. I doubt it would be Sanguinius given that he does not even have rules yet in 30k and there are still primarchs like Dorn and Alpharius who still need models and already have rules to use them.
You know Sanguinus has a whole walk in closet full of cat skins. One for formal occasions, one for around the house, a black one for Deathwatch Appreciation Day, and an older ratty one for getting down and doing the black rage boogie in. Stands to reason dunnit?
Fenris-77 wrote: You know Sanguinus has a whole walk in closet full of cat skins. One for formal occasions, one for around the house, a black one for Deathwatch Appreciation Day, and an older ratty one for getting down and doing the black rage boogie in. Stands to reason dunnit?
Deathwatch Appreciation Day... DAD. I see what you did there.
I'll blow my purity seals if another Primarch (hopefully Sang) is revealed at WarhammerFest. It feels like that model in the image is close to being revealed aswell since it has already been painted. Most in the past have just been concepts or whatever.
Part of me hopes Sanguinius doesn't return. It just cheapens the whole final showdown with horus and the emperor. And in a universe where nothing stays dead....well thats the lamest gak ever. I could see the lion or perhaps russ returning but not ferrus or sanguinius.
But apparently the new GW is feeling ambitious in meddling with a setting that really is just a backdrop for models and gaming. This kind of damage can't be undone so easily.
Thargrim wrote: Part of me hopes Sanguinius doesn't return. It just cheapens the whole final showdown with horus and the emperor. And in a universe where nothing stays dead....well thats the lamest gak ever. I could see the lion or perhaps russ returning but not ferrus or sanguinius.
But apparently the new GW is feeling ambitious in meddling with a setting that really is just a backdrop for models and gaming. This kind of damage can't be undone so easily.
Not much to be done about it
girlyman is back so the flood gate full of sharks is open.
i wana see dorn come back with an AWESOME mechanical powerfist hand
Ferrus is going to come back as a robot
Russ comes back full furry
and the rest in various ways. maybe lion with bed head.
Bed head huh? I'd buy a slacker Big Lebowski Primarch sculpt. Hell yeah.Ugly Sweater Armour provides a 2+ Inv, and the Power Bowling Ball is S+3, D6 Mortal wounds, but only if you, you know, feel like it man.
I think the one he killed was actually called Ice Stalker, and looked like a snow leopard.
Again, I want it to be him, I just don't think it is.
I'm also totally on board with him having a closet full of furs from dead giant cats.
{Edit} Sang will be back. The story has already almost written itself. The Son has sacrificed himself, for the mistakes of his Father, to save his Kingddom. Resurrection is imminent.
Verviedi wrote: That's a black and white filter applied over a painted model, here's it plugged into a colorizer. Nothing earth shattering, but still interesting.
To be redone later when I can find a site that doesn't make logos all over everything.
My 2 guesses ; Lion el Johnson, or something for AOS stormcasts
Verviedi wrote: That's a black and white filter applied over a painted model, here's it plugged into a colorizer. Nothing earth shattering, but still interesting.
To be redone later when I can find a site that doesn't make logos all over everything.
My 2 guesses ; Lion el Johnson, or something for AOS stormcasts
I'm not seeing anything that screams 40k so I'll go with AoS for now. I'm not sure which faction other than Stormcasts.
Definitely looks like a lion, not a leopard. Looks like a stormcast or high elf unit to me. I've heard the next 40k primarch release is mortarion, and most likely the lion after that.
30k sanguinis is coming, not sure if we will even see a 40k version unless he is cloned (he and ferrus manus are very dead).
Thargrim wrote: Part of me hopes Sanguinius doesn't return. It just cheapens the whole final showdown with horus and the emperor. And in a universe where nothing stays dead....well thats the lamest gak ever. I could see the lion or perhaps russ returning but not ferrus or sanguinius.
But apparently the new GW is feeling ambitious in meddling with a setting that really is just a backdrop for models and gaming. This kind of damage can't be undone so easily.
I agree, but I take it further. Bring back any of the Primarchs feels like ramping up the power quotient in the setting in a way you can't roll back. Almost like bring 30K Horus Heresy into the main game.
My guess is stormcast. The Dracoth rider from the starter set had lion heads on the armour, also the celestant prime, so its obviously a symbol of authority for them.
The pelt could also look cool on a special Custodes HQ.
And ofcourse, it could be Alpharius posing as Sanguinus.
Edit: Aparently the lord aquilor has lots of lionheads worked in to his armour, and even a pelt compleat with paws, so Id say the theme is clearly storcast.
feth it. If they bring back all those people they need a big ass Commander Puretide model. Be like Ha we cloned you and put you into a giant robot of death.
How about the silent king and the c'tan's?
If no one can stay dead the at least bring back all the cool mythological figures from every race.
I want Vect back too super up with some sort of cool weapon of war that can let him fight Primarch.
Please nonononono. There are no heroes in the Dark Millennium. Regardless of how much you believe in the god-emperor, regardless of how many squadmates you save or Orks you kill, you will die equally to an artillery shell fired from out of line of sight, and your efforts will never end the eternal war.
Even if you lead a campaign to glory, or defeat two Ork WAAAGHs singlehandedly by inspiring your armies, you will die just like anyone else. Hopeless, broken, in the mud, and your glories rendered moot and forgotten by the grind of endless battle.
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