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EDITED IN INTRO (31 March 2011): When I first started this thread nearly a year ago on April 8, 2010, I had no idea this thread would become this popular or last this long. I wanted to thank you all for your support and encouragement.

If you're new to this thread, I would invite you to read all of it. It is a story of myself and some friends - back when I was in the army - developing a 40K playing group out of nothing and making something awesome out of some mail-ordered models from Games Workshop and some scrap packaging material for terrain. From there, all sorts of people joined in, and it became probably the most successful gathering of gamers that I have ever pioneered. Being in the army at the time, that was something very rare. To this day I am still playing and building 40K like a fiend, and have found in it the most long-lived and fun-per-dollar efficient hobby, ever. Since I have left the army and friends have gone separate ways, we have continued to document our growing hobby and how in between the inconveniences of life we continue to spread how wonderful of a hobby this is. Not everyone has stuck with it. But of those who have tried it, most have.

Me and the regular posters you see are always happy to answer questions, post information about the hobby, and generally enjoy correspondence with other enthusiasts. I would invite you to subscribe to this thread; it is being posted on regularly with new stuff all of the time. And we appreciate all of your comments. Thanks for taking the time to read about this and to share your thoughts.

I would like to point something out: The majority of this thread (as of writing this) was written while I was in the U.S. Army during a deployment. Not the worst one most of us have had, which helped give us the opportunity to do this hobby. This thread is made to express how me and other friends who posted here and played and cultivated this game out of a rather inhospitable environment and turn it into something awesome. While we talk about the American army and Iraq some, it is not the focus. We were, and still are, happy to answer questions and describe the deployment and life in the army. However...

What it is not meant to do is show off our work in Iraq, the U.S. army, or somehow thump our chests to the fact that we carried and fired guns. We aren't here to promote what was or is the American military agenda. I am aware that it can be a irritable topic for many people. Let me point out that most soldiers in the U.S. army do not agree with how things went or the justification of what America was or is doing. If you are opposed to America's military agenda, I can understand your frustration and would ask that you don't bring it up. I'm past that, and that is not what this thread is about.

Below his how this thread started a year ago. Enjoy!
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Hey guys. I wasn't sure if this should go in the P&M blogs section or what, because really this is a culmination of pretty much all 40K activity here in FOB Echo, Iraq.

Those of you who have seen me around likely know my predicaments. But I'm just going to post some pictures and explain in-between.

I basically started here because boredom plagues this place. The internet is too slow to do anything but look at non-flash websites, and uploading these pictures takes half an hour. But, when I saw that a couple of people were buying WH40K armies (I think mostly for the painting & modeling at the time), I thought it would be an excellent (if not outrageously expensive) diversion.

I was going to buy Tau, but decided against it when one of the others out here had Tau. So, I then switched to Necrons.



Here's what I've got put together so far. My monolith is shown facing away because I haven't put the front side on yet. I'm waiting until I get my varnish in, so that I can get the inside part of the Gauss Flux gun. I'm debating on varnishing this thing with Gloss or Matte. I've got a couple of wraiths, a tomb spyder, a heavy destroyer, an egyptian-themed necron lord, and the nightbringer waiting to get assembled. I also have a pile of Vallejo paints and 8 flayed ones coming in. I really need to order more brushes, but I don't want to pay GW prices, so I'm not sure where to get them.

You can see another guys' SM in the background.



Here's the scarabs that I did. I still to this day am unsatisfied with my "eye" work but I have to know when I'm asking too much of myself. Fortunately, the scarab eyes are fairly large.



Necrons I did. They were the ones I started on first. I was forced to get the hang of drybrushing to avoid getting paint on their black teeth lines, but a few guys I messed up. Didn't glue the green rods on yet, they're just stuck in place.



The destroyer has decals on it's shoulderpads and on it's... abdomen? To include a very light Tin Bitz drybrush near the top of the abdomen, around the slits in it.



Monolith closer... it looks like ass. But I've screwed up the model to the point where I've got to go with it and at least make it look decent.



My Necron Lord was the most fun. Particularly it's cape and ressurection orb. I need to get this thing varnished, though, before it starts chipping.



A SM my friend is working on.



Iraq! In the middle of a particularly windy day, the dust is so thick that it blots the sun out of the sky. The camera didn't capture the lighting, but everything glowed with a much darker red aura... it felt like being on Mars.

If you look at the earlier pictures, you may be able to see that we play in a concrete bunker. We made a table out of sheets of plywood and used green duct tape to show the boundary line, making a 8x4' table into a 6x4 table with two feet of "storage area". We pretty much come in here every night after work and drink sodas (or near-beers), smoke cigarettes, and paint or play matches. I tend to lose...

Since everything we buy we have to ship home, buying unnecessarily large or expensive items is difficult to justify. That's why we pretty much made all of our terrain out of garbage we could find - mostly cardboard boxes, packaging foam, and PVA glue. I think I may break down and buy GW's craters, but until then we use a chopped-up dining-hall disposable bowl.

I've got some more pictures on the way, and we're probably going to play a game tonight, so I'll try to get some pictures of the match!

A guy here took old cds and used them as bases to make craters out of with sprue rubble bits. Something like that is pretty simple to make and looks pretty good too. Nice job with the green. Really makes for some good eerie lighting parts.

First, I want to say 'Thanks' for your service; I'm an old soldier myself and I realize how thankless your commitment can be. Secondly, I think it's just awesome you guys are forming a community out there to keep your mind off the boredom. The best we could muster around the tents were some girly mags when I was in. Oh, and one guy had a gameboy (The original gameboy).

I'm loving what you guys are doing with the terrain! The pre-fabricated terrain from GW is nice, but I so love making it up myself. I'm guessing the Necrons are actually based w/ sand from the desert? So appropriate

Rymafyr wrote:
I'm guessing the Necrons are actually based w/ sand from the desert? So appropriate

Actually, the "starter pack" I bought came with modeling sand, so I used that just because I might was well use it up and get rid of it before moving on to actual sand. ...but a lot of guys here are getting spray adhesive from our Supply Room and sprinkling sand and small flecks of gravel on the terrain pieces.

After tonight's game (Orcs Vs. Tau), I'll try to get the pictures uploaded. It takes forever on this connection to upload decent pictures, so we'll see. Some guys would rather play than paint, so they're fielding largely unpainted armies. And all of these guys are either totally new, or haven't ever messed with the hobby seriously, so expect a little sloppiness here and there.

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing.

Making terrain out of trash and scrap is a time-honored tradition. Cardboard and packaging foam are two of the main ingredients for terrain back stateside too. Using old or scratched CDs to build craters is one of the best and cheapest ways to go. You can use bits of sprue, clay, tin foil and/or pebbles to make the crater walls.

Here's some more stuff we worked on today. One of the guys who were going to do the match had to go on a mission, so we held off for the time being.



My executive officer. He's been working on his terminators lately, focusing on a largely assault army with a chapter he designed himself. Him and I have played quite a few games together and are starting to get a good grip on the rules. He informed me today that we've been using Special Characters attatched to squads in the wrong way when we assault. I'll have to research that further before our next game.



Specialist Erickson, painting his Valkyrie. He's a Tank Gunner. His imperial guard are popular around here for their resemblance to a modern army, and he is very good at cannibalizing his models with household items to make things like spare rockets, ghillie suits, bipod legs, ect. He still hasn't gotten around to playing an actual game, but fell in love with the modeling part and is eager to get started with actual gameplay. The XO and I playing matches inspired him to start actually playing.



SPC Erickson working on a LARGE blown-up imperial structure. Good thing the Supply Room has a very large case of super glue handy.



His finished structure from before, but finished(-ish? I never asked him.)

I did some work on my Heavy Destroyer today. I didn't take pictures, yet. I don't think I'm going to get more than one... I don't have much trouble with vehicles so far.

I was also having a great deal of trouble with super-glue and minis. I was going to stick to straight green-stuff (I hear it's a great adhesive, but I'm not positive). But I tried sticking little bits of paper inbetween the contact areas for a quick-stick so I wouldn't have to hold the parts together for half an hour, and to see if that also helped guarantee a good join. I'm getting really tired of having to re-file down every contact area when a part falls off with the slightest pressure.



Here's another terrain piece Erickson built.



And here is the inside of the bunker. It's a mess, but we've all got our own projects, so things get scattered about.

Well, next time I have some more, I'll post some. It will probably be tomorrow. Would you guys rather me post them in clickable thumbnails?

I like the monster themed valk

Badass, troop. It's good to know that next time I visit the 'raq there might be other foots that paint and play 40k. Good luck, may your weapons be always clean, your feet always dry, and may a camel never spit on you!

I actually find this kind of heart-warming

I mean, I view the Iraq War pretty negatively (and if I'm honest, the US military).

But it's nice to see you guys acting like, well, guys! Hope it relieves you of some of your stress and you get home...

Necrons are looking good.

Thanks for serving, btw, much respect. I'm always tempted to enlist, but my wife(a chAir Force LT) needs me around to keep her sane.

Try this place for significantly cheaper GW minis:
http://www.thewarstore.com/

The necrons you posted look good, keep at it.

God Bless You!!!

In answer to your super-glue problem. There's some stuff you can get called zip-kicker or glue accelerator.

http://www.thewarstore.com/product50185.html

Basically, once you apply the super glue lighly spray this stuff and the glue will dry instantly. It helps make it go worlds faster when assembling miniatures.

Just be careful not to get the accelerator and the glue on your fingers at the same time or it will burn like a mother *%$#! (They're have been days where I've had to take an Exacto knive and saw my fingers apart because of this stuff.) However, you should be able to assemble whole units in a much quicker and cleaner time.

Thanks again, your service is appreciated.

Ahhh Fob Echo..

Spent some time at that fine establishment myself around 2007.

Though I think it was called Camp Echo then.

See that stuff right their? Thats what 40k is all about baby!

Ok! We had a match today, and of course more pictures. SPC Erickson played his first game, and had a blast!



Erickson plays Imperial Guard, but he didn't know enough of the game yet to even have enough men to fill a Platoon, much less the two required for his Force Organizational Chart. But we let him go with it because we're here to have a good time, and to keep people interested.



Here's his sniper squad in their ghillie suits.



And here's a squad of guys he did. I seemed to have trouble uploading another that had camo-facepaint and tatoos painted on his models.



An overview of the match IG vs. SM. Our XO and Erickson had laid out their units but had not moved yet. Erickson did relatively good for an army he barely knew how to organize, and he learned to play as they went along. Somehow his IG squads managed to drop a terminator squad.



Our XO shaking his dice for a roll. Doc is in the back observing the game. He's one of the many who come in to see us play, but shy away from committing to being a part of it. I guess the price tag alone is enough to scare many off. Hopefully we'll get a few more players in here as time goes buy. Our Tank Platoon Leader was thinking about buying Chaos Space Marines after watching the last half of the match.



The battle was half-underway here.

Erickson lost an Annihilation match 5 vs. 2 units, in a 5 turn game. Unfortunately most of his points were used on vehicles that he loved to paint for modeling purposes, and one of them was a half-assembled Valkyrie. He did put some brown patterning in addition to the green, for those of you who saw his Valkyrie before. He's a big fan of the camo patterning, and tends to gloss coat all of his dudes. I'm not a huge fan of that, but I encourage everyone to do what they think is good with their models. I just wish some players would paint their sets instead of just playing with them.

I helped officiate rules while assembling more of my two wraiths and my heavy destroyer. We called it a night earlier than normal, so I could get a chance to come in here and upload more pictures. It took me an hour to upload the ones on this post. The internet is so slow out here...

Oh, and thank you very much on your thanks and well wishes! I'll let the guys know the community sends their regards. And for some personal replies:

Captain Shrike wrote:
I like the monster themed valk

Yeah, Erickson's gotten a lot of comments on it. It visually dominates a battlefield, even moreso than my monolith. And he's still working on the paintjob. He's considering painting a face on the side, reminiscent of the P-52 Mustang WW2 fighters.

Henners91 wrote:
I mean, I view the Iraq War pretty negatively (and if I'm honest, the US military).

Yeah, most people, including soldiers, aren't fans of the war. Or maybe they're just not fans of trying to help out a country that seems to be hellbent on destroying itself. And unfortunately, the U.S. Army tends to attract the dregs of society since they'll give a paycheck and hot meals to anyone who can stand upright and count on their fingers. But like anywhere else, there's good and bad. I just try to ignore the bad. I'm getting out of the Army soon enough!

Well, I'll see if I can get some more stuff to post about tomorrow! It's nighttime here!

its nice to see and while im not a huge fan of the war and not an american i still wanna say thanks and i can only imagine the flak you guys must get and it must be kinda disheartening so im not gonna be that guy and just say thanks and your service is really commendable

Now I'm considering making my own deployment army when I go to Afghanistan Very nice looking Necrons, btw, they actually look a lot like mine, with the gold trim and shoulder decals Get home safe buddy, and if you ever are around Balad and run into a Senior Airman Whaley, tell him A1C Crowe says "Feth you!"

Aw, I can't see the pictures when I'm at work, but it's nice to know there's one more necron player out there. There's just not enough of us. Heh.

Hot damn guys, looks like you're having a blast.
Also, in that desert photo...did I see some Strykers?
Can you nab me some reference photos for my Stryker I'm working on? Trade you some pics of my WIP Guard for it

Thank you for your service: it is appreciated by more people than you may think. I'd like to believe that the Iraqi people will some day understand the sacrifices others have made for them. That day won't be tomorrow, but I hope it will be in our lifetime.

I think it's cool that you're letting guys take whatever parts of the hobby they enjoy without getting too uptight about it. Some people will only ever want to glue their minis to the bases and play straight from the box, while others will take the time to paint and convert every figure they own. The key is that you can get together and relax and take your mind off the fresh hell outside your bunker's doors.

Hey guys!

Unfortunately it was a slow day today, 40k-wise. It was movie night I think, and most of the regulars weren't there. I applied the final paint touches to my Heavy Destroyer, and placed a couple of decals on it. Its new shoulder-spine-thing makes the shoulder patterning like the other Destroyers impossible. Erickson also decided to dedicate lascannons to his Valkyrie today. After a game and a half he realized that he needed significant weapon strength do drop anything but soft armored targets. And twin-linked stuff to supplement the IG's lousy BS.

Because nothing really happened today, I didn't take any pics. I'll keep at it though, and I'll be sure to keep you guys up to speed. The day was pretty weird for most people - sleep schedules got messed up because the IDF (rockets incoming, ect.) alarm went off in the middle of the night and we sat out there in our shorts and flip-flops for an hour waiting for them to figure out with was just the tracker picking up false signals. A lot of guys either slept late or went to bed early today.

Kanluwen wrote:
Can you nab me some reference photos for my Stryker I'm working on? Trade you some pics of my WIP Guard for it.

What you saw were heavy-armored Humvees and MRAPS. I can't go into specifics for reasons below.

Unfortunately, as for the the photos, the answer can only be no. There is no detail I could give to you with a photograph from one of ours that you couldn't get elsewhere on google, without broadcasting strength intel openly on the internet. Such a thing is a violation of Operations Security. Don't be discouraged, though - plenty of legit photos of Strykers are out there on the internet. And plenty of other people post such information on the internet without thinking about it, and you can easily find it if you want it super realistic. I just don't want to be that guy, you know?

Tomorrow, I will ideally play a match with my XO and I'll document it if I do. The habits of the group have been growing steadily for the past couple of months - so much that I had to stop my gym routine (I was getting poor results after 5 months of busting my keister) so that I could actually be there to play and work on a much more satisfying hobby.

Well, I'm not an expert in building terrain.
Your pics are great. Playing 40k in a bellicose environment.
Good bless you guys!

I salute proud hobby-driven soliders /salute

Love the camo work on the IG tanks btw

Looks like you have a good set up there, lots of space to play/paint and bomb proof too! What more could you want

If I was in you position I couldn't think of a better way to pass the time guys.

that boring in war eh? ah well, how do you get hold of all your stuff? the internet? cas you could make it seem less cheaper by going other maelstrom games or the warstore, influence other people by a hyper.. something, forgot what its called >>

From one military member to another I salute you!!! Keep the pics and posts coming.

Well, I got my match - Necrons Vs. SM... and lost. A little badly. To hell with Terminators and Jump Infantry... jeez.

Unfortunately I forgot to take pictures until turn 3, but I do have some for you guys.



Here you can see the beginning-ish of turn 3. In the past two turns we closed some distance. My squad of three Destroyers was dropped by his Land Raider with two twin-linked lascannons and a assault cannon. My Heavy Destroyer was dropped by his Dreadnought's Lascannon. I was, to say the least, not pleased. My Monolith comes in on deep strike on the third turn and a get a shot off on his land raider, roll a hit on scatter dice, and after everything end up rolling a 1 on the damage results. Gah!



I dropped his jump infantry with power weapons simply by swamping him, but as I realize he has closed in for the kill, waiting out turns in range simply won't do anymore. At this point half my units are gone and any point in planning some crazy thing has been dissolved. So, I run into the graveyard in the center of the battlefield to go toe-to-toe with his regular marines and hope I at least take down a few more squads before he closes with his Terminators.

With all of my remaining necron forces in one area, I goofed. He launched his orbital strike, and got a hit on the scatter dice. Fortunately, a about 3/4ths made their WBB rolls with the rez orb, but... I don't know. What else could I have done?



Well, at this point I'm done for, so I go for an all out assault just to get it over with. We all meet in the graveyard, his vehicles and terminators fired a volley, and in the closed. With powerfists, he made short work of my troops. I dropped a few of his, but far too little. And eventually he got my Necron Lord with his res orb, then his power-weapon heavy forces carved through.



At the end of turn six, he gets me with Necron Phase-Out. I'm not happy. The XO has habitually horrible rolls, but I was really aggrivated. This turns into a three draws, three losses record against his army. I'm trying to think of what I'm doing wrong, and it's probably something from the first turn. But I simply don't know other than to experiment and hope I get it. Unfortunately, each "Experiment" takes four hours to get through.

I order all of my GW models and stuff from GW's website. A package arrived today that contained another wraith, 8 flayed ones, the super glue with a brush, and Green Stuff. I was a bit dissapointed with the green stuff. It takes forever and a day to dry, and it doesn't seem to "stick" that well. Or maybe I still didn't wait long enough. I was under the impression it was also used as an adhesive, and considering my superglue woes, I thought it would be a good idea to give it a try. There's not much I can think of to do with Necrons that could "modify" them with Green Stuff or bits.

So, back to the drawing board. I'm not sure what's going to happen, but I'm eager to get my flayed ones on the field and maybe things will work out better once I do. I should have bought more than 8!

@OP:

Don't know about your internet, but you can look into Vassal. http://www.miniwargaming.com/content/oXa5UrAGpfJG

You can play 40k online with people from around the world; not much in the way of bandwidth required.

Hahaha I feel your pain on the loss man. Necrons are a very tough army to play, especially against Space Marines. Until today, every opponent I've played has been Chaos Marines, and they pretty much tabled me every single time. Today I played Guard and through some stupendously bad dice rolls managed to tie with him. Destroyers die way to easily and are a very tempting target, so I would recommend getting more so you can field more squads of them and prevent them from being attritioned to death. Also, you'll want a Destroyer Lord. I plan on getting one for my next paycheck.

diesel7270 wrote:H

Kanluwen wrote:
Can you nab me some reference photos for my Stryker I'm working on? Trade you some pics of my WIP Guard for it.

What you saw were heavy-armored Humvees and MRAPS. I can't go into specifics for reasons below.

Unfortunately, as for the the photos, the answer can only be no. There is no detail I could give to you with a photograph from one of ours that you couldn't get elsewhere on google, without broadcasting strength intel openly on the internet. Such a thing is a violation of Operations Security. Don't be discouraged, though - plenty of legit photos of Strykers are out there on the internet. And plenty of other people post such information on the internet without thinking about it, and you can easily find it if you want it super realistic. I just don't want to be that guy, you know?

It's okay I was looking more for color patterns, actually. Are they a flat olive drab/sandy ochre? Do they have camo patterns on the Strykers?

That's more what I'm needing!

All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

So Basically they look like ork vehicles?

WarWizard91 wrote:

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

So Basically they look like ork vehicles?

My mind = BLOWN. I will never look at an uparmored HUMVEE the same way...and it probably doenst help that my buddy plans on painting "WAAAAAAAAGH" onto his turret when he goes over.

That is freakin' awesome. Adapt and overcome, brothers.

Tell you what- having been there and suffered, PM me with what you need. I'll put together a care-box for you guys.

Major Dutch
OIF III, IV
1st MECH BDE, 9th Iraqi Division

This thread is Aces.. Very enjoyable to see this develop..

Its funny because I play in a garage with my friends on a MDF board with mostly homemade terrain, smoking and cursing the dice gods.. Just minus the whole bravery part..

Anyway

Necrons are pretty hard to use this edition. So dont even feel bad for losing with them.

Although from my past experience with them.. if they get into CC they die..

I did a searchy for ya.. here are two reasonable (maybe?) threads that might help you out..

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/282235.page#1380366

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/247250.page#822762

Good luck with the Crons, stay out of close combat..

EDIT: Having gone over my limits I'm also on Dial up.. So I just saw that Cardboard hill.. Totally stealing that. Also your army is looking pretty swish..

Great thread. I wish we could have done this when I was over, but I didn't play 40k then and we lived in tents (03-04). Let me know if you guys need any sapre bits and I will send some too you or other wierd things that most poeple wouldn't think to send.

Keep up the good work. Necrons are hard to win with.

Shaman wrote:Just minus the whole bravery part..

Somehow I doubt that, what with all the Dingos, Crocs, and Drop Bears running rampant in your country!

REMATCH! I still lost, but at a much less embarrassing rate. And I got a bunch of pics, so sorry for the heavy download time. Took me two hours to upload these.




Here I am, SGT McDowell, and what I've assembled to take on his SM army. This time, I had a new strategy and was going to make a few less blunders.



We laid out our units in this fashion. He had a squad of terminators in reserve and I put my monolith in reserve (Deep Srike!)
I clustered everyone together. Maybe foolish, because he has an orbital bombardment, but he never used it this match. I planned on covering everyone's advance, being able to shoot as much as possible, and make him close every inch with his jump infantry assault marines. My Destroyers immediately picked off two of his regular space marines.



At the beginning of turn one, you can see him trying to close the distance. I immediately rolled to bring my monolith in from deep strike, and then used my Gauss Flux Arc to engage three squads on the left side of the board. I took out 4 ourt 5 scattered models with it. He then dropped my Heavy Destroyer and a Destroyer with the lascannons on his land raider.



My Heavy Destroyer made his WBB roll, but not my one Destroyer. one of his regular troop squads is down to two models. On turn three, I start to rain more shots with my Gauss Flux arc. I move my Wraiths and Scarabs to intercept his jump infantry advancing from the left. He's making potshots at my guys with his lascannons, but is rolling horribly. He's got notoriously bad dice luck. I believe I immobilized his dreadnought with my Heavy Destroyer at this point.



It's his half of turn three and his terminators come out of deep strike right next to one of my regular necron squads. I start to sweat at this point. He's closed with his jump infantry on the left and the melee ensues. He's chewing through my scarabs, but I'm getting a wound here and there with them.



By the end of the next turn, the assault on the left is over with one of his squads wiped out and another crippled. He knocked out my wraiths and scarabs. His terminators closed, dropped over half the squad with help from his land raider. I rolled for morale and failed, falling back off the board, and there the game goes...



Seeing I can't get anywhere with his terminators, I use my Wargear on my Lord and deep strike them to behind his vehicles. The monolith had just dropped the last remmnant of one squad last turn, so now he's firing his Particle Beam at the Land Raider. Various potshots on it beforehand and my monolith take it's weaponry down to just one lascannon. My newly deep strike-ed squad fires it's Gauss Flayers at the Dreadnought, and take out a few of it;s weapons. He wheels his land raider around to drop a regular squad to intercept my squad.

I roll a 1 on the game continuing. He's won Ahnillation because he dropped all of my soft 1-3 model units early in the game. He had one more unit gone than me. I was doing pretty good with the exception of that morale roll.

Here's some more pics I think you guys might like:



SPC Erickson is known for his skill in modifying models, and with this one, he wanted a Manticore Missile Launcher, but didn't want to wait and had a ton of bits. So he took a vehicle body, missles left over from a Valkyrie, and a styrofoam block with bits from his Baneblade glued on. I was floored that the turret was made of styrofoam!

And check this out...



He used a magnet to have a rotating, detachable turret!



This is one of the XO's first models he painted, and put some work into it for his first model. I know camo pattern isn't really the SM thing, but it looks great!



Here's my tomb spyder, finished except for a varnish coat and maybe decals. If you see a rough part... I had a really hard time with the pewter legs being warped, and when bending them back in place, one snapped. So I had to glue a very weak joint with heavy parts, and in the end the thing was coated in layers of adhesive. I'm not touching it... it's a Necron, it's supposed to look half-wrecked.



Here's a wraith I did. They're really tough to put together, because the tail join and the tail bottom are really hard to glue down. I suspect a few pounds of pressure would break it anyway, but I'm being careful. I still have one new wraith that just arrived, and my flayed ones are assembled. Base coat tomorrow!

I realize that I really can't beat his high armored majority unless I bring out some Pariahs, and finish my pet project: The Nightbringer. So I guess I'm ordering some Pariahs. It was a fun game, and we've pretty much convinced a spectating Lieutenant to join in and buy some Chaos Space Marines. So, as always, a great time! It was great to unwind, because today was busy as hell.

So tomorrow, I'm going to hold of on playing the XO. Maybe another guy's Tau or Orks, but I need to wait until I have some different units to field before I can expect to handily beat the XO. Well, that's all for today, guys. Thanks for the encouragement! And my buddies are stoked that I'm posting this stuff.

diesel7270 wrote:All vehicles I've seen in the army don't have camo patterns on them. Virtually all vehicles out here are light tan, though one stryker is olive drab. I'm not sure why. Probably just a logistics fubar.

You'd be good with a very matte olive drab or desert tan, painted over everything. If you want some realistic models, most army vehicles have a bunch of antennas of varying size, and a plethora of add-ons if you look at some pictures of them, with various Elecronic and Direct fire devices. Most army vehicles are older models that have had to have constant armor and counter-electronic systems installed to continue to defeat the little arms race they have going on with the insurgency. So steel plating, frag-proof windows, reactive armor panels, RPG cages, heat producing rhino-horns, refitted turret armor, redone suspension to handle the new weight load, and various slapped-on equipment can be seen on various vehicles, to include collapsed litters, spools of concertina/razor wire, jugs of fuel, road cones, ect.

The kit I'm doing is a M1130 Tactical Air Control Party variant. Plenty of brass etch parts, and other fun wacky bits to have. Nice little remote weapons station too, with options for a grenade launcher(I want to say it's the HK automatic grenade launcher, but I don't have my parts list handy right now) or the standard .50 MG.

Thanks for the colors bit though, you've helped far more than you can imagine

Kanluwen Wrote:

I want to say it's the HK automatic grenade launcher...

It's *probably* the MK19 belt-fed 40mm grenade launcher. I've fired one, and it's pretty intense. It's got a fairly slow rate of fire (slower than that part in Call of Duty 4 where you fire one out of the chinook) and it eats through a box of ammo pretty quickly, but walking a 3-5 round burst into a group of soft targets is nasty.

I can only imagine!

Subscribed! Though many don't say it enough, most do appreciate your bravery and sacrifice of picking up arms in service to your nation.

It is so cool to see you guys playing 40K out there. Please do keep the pictures and updates coming... Believe it or not, actually seeing what you do on your downtime is cool. I really like the updates on how the other guys are doing, too.

My brother in law recently completed basic, and is currently in AIT for EOD. If he gets deployed I'll totally send him a starter care package of 40k.

My mind was blown when i read that the turret was made out of styrofoam, and camo armor makes more sense than brightly colored armor. This is a really cool thread keep it up.

I plan on serving, and now that I know my 40k can come with me, that will help when being deployed. You honor your country by serving. Be safe. And that manticore is fething AMAZING!

Cool batrep.. Good to see you doing better.. Bring on the Nightbringer..

@Platuan4th: A dingo stole my lunch just last week!

If you want to kill space marines with Necrons, shoot your troops at all vehicles you can reach and you will kill the Land Raider in turn 2 at the latest. For the rest, stay out of combat and shoot the crap out of anything that moves fast.

*insert military related compliment*

No pics today, guys. Me and the XO pretty much spend all evening listening to Blues and Classic Rock and sharing the fine detail brush when we needed to paint, and assembling when the other had the brush.

I worked extensively on my nightbringer, mostly by filing off the molding lines in the torso and arms, and using Green Stuff to join the poorly-fitted torso with the lower half. I'll have to fine-tune the edges once it dries, because it was being a little rebellious when trying to make sure every crack (and most were large) was sealed. XO is worried about me fielding my nightbringer, which is awesome. I hope it works out well when I can field it.

Also while I left the Green Stuff to dry for the rest of the night, I started painting a Flayed One to see how I want the rest to look. I got a few coats of bronzed flesh over the black basecoat... a few spots of black are still showing through the coats, but it got late, and I had to call it a night. I'll take pictures when they start to really come together.

It's rainy season in this area of Iraq, which turns everything from a dusty dry hellhole to a filthy swampy hellhole. I am almost permanantly dragging five pounds of mud and gravel on the bottom of my boots. But, as always, getting a chance to sit down and chill and work on some models is always pacifying.

Thanks so much for the offers of care packages from the various folks who have PMed and posted about it. It means a lot to the guys here and they're excited. And the Tank Platoon Lieutenant bought some models! He wouldn't tell us what they were, for some reason. Maybe he's got something up his sleeve. But we'll see when they arrive in a few weeks.

SM is one of the harder armies for necrons to go up against, for sure.

Typically I find it more beneficial to not deep strike the monolith as your opponent will find it more threatening right off the bat and probably divert a little more attention to it in the beginning. Just focus on using the monolith for cover as you advance. Also remember, you can teleport Necron units (see, not pariahs/scarabs/tomb spyders/C'Tan) through the portal on the 'lith even if they're in close combat. And the fact it has an 18" range is awesome. I never utilized it much until one of my previous matches, and getting to re-roll WBB and the mobility offered was much more beneficial than a pie plate attack.

Nightbringer will do well against termies but he will probably die in the process. But the explosion of him should take out the rest of the termies.

Definitely sounds like you're getting the hang of things bud and having a great time. That's awesome!

I suggest always taking a res orb (if you don't) and keep your lord close. Honestly I've run into more problems when I spread my forces out as compared to keeping them close in. With the exception of scarabs of course.

Keep up the good work and fight the good necron fight!

diesel7270 wrote: And the Tank Platoon Lieutenant bought some models! He wouldn't tell us what they were, for some reason. Maybe he's got something up his sleeve. But we'll see when they arrive in a few weeks.

Wouldnt it be funny if your tank Platoon Lieutenant started an Armored company?

Rymafyr wrote:First, I want to say 'Thanks' for your service; I'm an old soldier myself and I realize how thankless your commitment can be.

+++++++1000000000000000

qft

nice one guys looks good

cool, you can war in war!

Thanks for your service. Being over here can be a little frustrating. Let me know if you want to talk 40K.

WOW!
that is great, i like the IG.
And your necrons OP too. i dont get to see necrons too often and its great to see that people still do use them.
keep up the good work.

@ happygrunt that made me lol.


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I liked your battle report as well.

Necrons ftw mate. I've fought necrons before and they are annoying.. damm buggers just won't DIE!

If your interested in getting some immortals and flayed ones you should check this tutorial on how to make them out of warriors (kudos to orginial author)

- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/241720.page
- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/242321.page
- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/242326.page

Fight da imperial power ;p

Wow! This is a really, really great thread. You've got painting and modelling, battle reports, tactics and background all in once thread.

I'm really impressed with what you guys are doing in regards to 40K so keep it up! And good luck with Necrons, not easy but you'll get there and atleast you're enjoying it!

You have my compliments for being in the army, as you can tell, many people are impressed by your being there and your efforts in both 40K and military.

Good Luck, Dave.

Well, another day has gone by and the XO challenged me to a match - again - and this time, it was Capture & Control. So I didn't worry about units for victory points and threw everything I had at the table. I didn't put my monolith in Reserve (though he put his terminator squad in reserve). I took Comic Pixie's advice and prioritized his Land Raider as my first target, and alternatively his Dreadnought as my second. I lost - again! But barely. Me and the XO have a running gag - He rolls crappy all the time, but when he needs one or two rolls to pull him out of a game-losing situation, the dice deliver. That's how he won this game. I posted pictures of several of the turns so I can break it down for you guys.

The three objectives were the Summoning Core, the hellhound lower body, and the cluster of radioactive waste barrels.



This is our game, before first movement. My second troop squad a necron lord is obscured by my monolith.

XO Goes first.



Turn 1.

He used his lascannons to drop one destroyer. He brought both squads of his jump infantry on the building. I'm not quite sure why... and I forgot to call him out on landing on difficult terrain. If that applies to jump infantry... and, in his first turn, his Land Raider's lascannons immobilized my Monolith just out of range of it's Particle Whip. CRAP!

I bring my necron troops in closer so that I can at least shoot stuff from behind cover with my 24" shots, but other than my destroyers, everything else is out of range. I roll horrendously on the destroyers' attacks and the heavy destroyer can't penetrate his Land Raider's armor. I'm using my tomb spyder, wraiths, and scarabs to try to drop one of his two troop squads (on the unviewed side of the white ruins) and possibly tie up his jump infantry.

Turn 2. He deep srikes his terminators within 1" of my desroyers, and rolls for them to go back in reserve. My tomb spyder can't keep up the pace, but my wraiths and scarabs take down a few of his troops while his jump infantry joins the fight and takes out my wraiths. And, in my idiocy, forgot that Wraiths have invulnerable saves. Gah! So they left the game. I lost a scarab model too, but I'm not too worried. I'm actually beating his regular troops. And he loads his other troops squad in the land raider, and closes some distance. My desrtroyers and heavy destroyer continue to make potshots that do little or nothing. My strategy at this point is that hopefully I'll take out his vehicles, and with it, the bulk of his fire power. Hopefully I can drop his troops squads in the proscess and prevent him from holding any points. His land raider is now within range of my left necron squad and my particle cannon, so I took shots at it and dropped a weapon system.


Turn 3. I also failed to take a picture of this one... not much happens here. We all roll poorly and he closes some distance with his jump infantry. I consolidate my position on the left side of the board while I continue to try to take down his marine squad with my scarab swarm.



This is turn 4. His land raider and dreadnought continue to shoot at my monolith, and only give it a "Weapon Destroyed". His terminators deep strike again, and go off the board, to which he rolls for "Terrible Accident". My luck. When a loss of a model of scarabs broke his jump infantry from close combat, they came to close the distance with my necron troops and begin to wipe them out with their power weapons. My necron troops close within range of another objective, and fire two volleys at the land rader, with my monolith and heavy desroyer, and immobilize it, and drop it's other lascannon. Again, desroyer potshots do little. The assault on my right squad of troops takes out two of the models in one of his squads, but they're already half gone. And my scarabs continue to exchange blows with his troop squad and are continuing to inflict (and take) wounds.

Turn 4. His marines dismount from his land raider, and make a dash for the objective on his side (a broken-down hellhound or whatever). Meanwhile his jump infantry continue to echange blows with my other squad, and drop them. My heavy destroyer focuses it's firepower on the dreadnought but is rolling poorly. My scarabs finish off the rest of his marine squad with three models left (out of seven). At this point he is starting to get worried because I control a point, and he doesn't, and we go into turn five.

Turn 5. He continues to frantically get his last marine squad to the hellhound body but can't close the distance. His jump infantry begin their progress towards my other squad that they haven't wiped out. I make shots with my last destroyer and heavy destroyer, continue to blast at his land raider with my last troop squad, and take a few models off of all of his infantry and jump infantry squads, but they make their morale checks. However, he didn't have any points under his control and if he had rolled to end the game, I would have won.




Turn 6. He closes the distance with his marine squad, but can't get quite close enough when he assaults with what is left with his jump infantry to contest the point I control. With most of our effective shooting power taken off the board, the pace picks up. The dreadnought takes out my scarabs and the marines take out my destroyer, but I've got my heavy destroyer left and I've got a plan: I can turbo boost it to the hellhound to contest that point, so that I alone have an uncontested point and a win. Providing, of course, he doesn't roll to play into turn seven.



Turn 7. He got lucky. The game extends, his marines kill my heavy desroyer, and he jumps both remaining units of jump infantry to my area. I can only shoot and kill one, which I did, and the other jump infantry squad makes it contested. I lose.

One guy and the Tank Platoon LT were there, and while the LT watched the game, the other guy painted his Tau. We all had to work late, so as soon as the game ended, we had to call it a night.

Anyway, I did a lot more work on my flayed one and if I get a chance, tomorrow I will post a picture so you guys can see if it works well enough to continue it's method with the other models. Hope you guys enjoyed!

Lol you have the same problems with Destroyers as me. Constantly making terrible rolls and then getting mowed down. None of mine have ever made it past the first turn or two.
Personally I plan on simply fielding more of them, increase my chances of rolling something other than crap, and making it harder for my opponents to concentrate all their fire on one squad of them.

Yeah, at this point I'd really advise some more anti-armour, such as Heavy Destroyers, C'tan or Warscythes...

nice bet-rep though, you got v. unlucky!

great stuff

Keep calm, and keep safe. Watch your buddies backs. God bless you and all the soldiers over in iraq.

Hey guys, I ended up staying up REALLY late last night while playing a game against Erickson's IG. But I took pictures and will upload them when I get the chance. Just bear with me!

This post comes a little bit later than usual. I ended up playing a game against Erickson's IG last night, and since he never bothered learning his codex, it took me and the XO a while to get him through the game.

Well, at least I finally truly won a match. Granted, Erickson's IG didn't have enough Infantry to fill out two Troop Platoons, but we played a 1400pt. game of Annihilation. I recommended Seize Ground so his numerous, weak squads wouldn't become a liability, but that's what he wanted to do. I think that was mostly because he didn't want to try out a new gametype until he learned how to not play horribly.

I also managed to snag a pic of a (mostly) finished Flayed One. There are some details I forgot (like the gold joints, ect), but you get the general idea. Also, bear in mind I didn't have any gloss to make the skin look wet, or a really clear picture to bring out special details. Anyway, here you guys go:



My flayed one. It's kindof hard t tell with the poor lighting, but there's Bronzed Flesh with an Elf Flesh Highlight and Blood Red on the edges. One coat of gunmetal over a black basecoat makes the gunmetal look darker and marbled, perfect for the ancient machinery look. And Mithril Silver for the claws.



The game starts with me going first, and my monolith is going to take the point. For some reason he wanted to put his Valkyries in reserve for Deep Strike. Between my Particle Whip and Heavy Destroyer I managed to take out his hellhound in the first turn, but everyone else but my destroyers are out of range for a decent volley.



By the beginning of turn 2, his Manticore Missle Launcher had dropped half of my right squad of troops (who I put behind that rock because for some weird reason I thought we were still going to play a seize ground game). My closing wraiths and scarabs take a few shots from his squads. Not much else happens in this turn. He's not playing too aggressively, but he doesn't know the rules that well. He's staying put and using the barricades for cover saves. A Particle whip on his Manticore Missile Launcher gives him a weapon destroyed roll, so he lost one of his missles.



By the beginning of turn 3, My scarabs had closed with one of his heavy weapons teams on the left and wiped them out. My wraiths attacked the command squad (I'm not sure why I did that) and rolled a little badly and died. His two valkries came in from Deep Strike and dropped their Stormtrooper squads and Commissar Yarrick. Between his manticore missle launcher and the weapons on his gunships, I lost a few more Necron Warrior models. I launched a particle whip shot at one valkyrie, and it exploded, but the XO and Erickson argued with me that the radius of my particle whip couldn't affect the troops on the ground. Time was passing quickly so I let them have it (though I disagreed) and moved on.



It's the beginning of turn 4, and by now My scarabs have assaulted his command squad, causing them to flee off the board. The Manticore's rockets hit my destroyers and dropped one who didn't make his WBB roll. I had used my 'Lith's teleport ability to try to save a few more models, so no particle whip was fired. But that squad did get to shoot at the advancing stormtroopers. Erickson's Heavy Weapons team tried taking out the destroyers but failed to cause any wounds. His remaining valkyrie fires a lascannon at my tomb spyder and fries it. The half-destroyed squad below gets a few shots off at the valkyrie and performs a glancing hit that take out one of it's rockets. My scarabs finish off his last heavy weapons team and start to move in to take down the manticore missile launcher and use their disruption fields on it.



This picture was taken at the end of turn 5. After my destroyers advance and my troops try to put some distance between them and commissar Yarrick, they all shoot at the remaining stormtroopers and drop what's left of them, leaving only the Commissar. The scarabs damage the Manticore to "Immobilized." His snipers shoot horribly and he tends to forget Rapid Fire rules when he moves his units. Too bad...



Commissar Yarrick's final stand...



Turn 7 and end of game. Commisar Yarrick gets dropped by the Staff of Light on my Necron Lord for the past two turns (he made his WBB roll on turn 6), and also on turn 6, my particle whip and destroyers wiped out the rest of his other squad. By the end of the game, all that remains is the Commissar waiting for a WBB roll and a severely damaged Manticore. What you see here is the remainder of all units.

Well, it was fun. Erickson wasn't partiularly pleased, but at least I won one. I told him all of his large blast templates and heavy weapons teams and grenade launchers were ideal for dropping orcs, but not well suited to high armor saves on things like Necrons or Vehicles.

Erickson plans on buying a new Battleforce set for his IG so that he can make another platoon and be correct on his FOC. We might get another guy in here with some Eldar... he played Dawn of War a lot but is hesitant to spend the money.

The nightbringer is coming along slowly. I want to make it look totally awesome and take my time. I haven't bought more models, because I still have a full squad of Flayed Ones to do, and another Necron Lord.

That's all for today guys! I'll see if I can post another update again tonight.

Kudos on winning your first game If Erickson doesn't have enough foot soldiers to fill out two platoons he should just run them as veteran squads to still fill the FOC.

I'm not sure about the ins and outs of Imperial Guard. I know he beefed up his squads as much as he could with the points he had, and assigned them to the bare minimum models per unit. I haven't studied his codex but I know he at least needs a command squad and two troop squads to have a platoon.

Yeah, but he can take a squad of Veterans as a Troops choice instead of a Platoon. It has BS 4 and more weapon options, thought they cost more points. They're a nice choice particularly if you have a limited number of models.

Thanks for the updates! Very cool thread. Let us know if you have any tactical or rules questions, too.

The Nightbringer is going to be a wrecking crew when you start using him. He'll walk through that Terminator squad like they aren't even there.

Very cool Batreps.

The SM one was just plain bad luck.. Turn 7 bah.

The IG one was a victory.. Hooray.. Too bad Necrons can't smile.

XO and Kehrer (Tau) did a match today, and the XO won handily. It probably would have been totally one sided except for his "Drop Pod" (The bottom half of a water bottle) didn't come out until turn 5. Which rose the rules question: If half of your drop pods come out at turn 1, what happens if you only have one drop pod?

They took pictures but without a detailed batrep I thought it wouldn't be prudent to bother posting them. I myself spent the bulk of the evening working on finishing touches on my wraiths and getting back to work on my 'lith.

Which reminds me, today a package I ordered from WarWeb came in today. I got a 36 pack of Chessex green dice and a bunch of Vallejo paints, to include Gloss and Matte varnish, and mettalic medium. I'm gonna put in another order today to cap-off my squad of Flayed Ones and order another Pariah squad... and maybe the Road terrain peice.

Quinn ordered an Eldar army, so now we've got two new players waiting on their armies to arrive and join with us. It's getting big. I never new when I started playing that it would turn this popular. In fact, I was worried. I wondered if I had spent this ungodly amount of money on game pieces that would be painted and assembled, and just sit on a shelf. Perhaps when we get these two other players in, people will look at how popular it's becoming here, and more people will buy armies too! We do have a lot of visitors who seem interested.

I'll bring up the veteran squad to Erickson. I think he had one out there the last game, but I don't know. I'll have to ask him.

I was waiting on putting my monolith together until I got some gloss varnish to work on the Gauss Flux guns before I put the walls completely together, but I am running into the problem of the cracks in the walls being pretty noticable. I could fill them with Green Stuff but I'm wondering if there is a better, cheaper way. I'd rather not use all of my modeling epoxy on one models' gaps.

I am getting rave reviews from the other players here on my Necron paint job, particularly my Flayed One I showed you guys, who now has a coat of gloss over the wet, flayed skins. I also took some people's advice and put gloss varnish and then matte varnish on, to have a thicker coat to prevent chipping. I started this because I dropped a wraith I had applied just a matte coat to, and it chipped pretty badly. Now that my 'lith is ready to be finished, I'm wondering if I should gloss it. People are impressed though. It's nothing close to the pro jobs you see in the galleries here, but amongst amateurs it's pretty good. The Flayed Ones are basecoated and waiting for assembly-line painting. I'll be sure to post some pictures of all of this stuff once I start getting these models finally done.

So it was a good day. Thanks so much for the comments, guys. Your feedback keeps my going with this. I'm glad our efforts over here give you guys something cool to read about.

EDIT: I ran into a problem when varnishing my flayed one. Maybe I put the stuff on too thick, but it came out kind of milky colored and obscured it's teeth line and eyes. I might have to settle with that for now. Maybe I put too much on. We'll see on the others.

Which rose the rules question: If half of your drop pods come out at turn 1, what happens if you only have one drop pod?

Half, rounding up. So if you have an odd number, a majority come in. 1 pod, 1 pod turn 1. 3 pods, 2 turn 1. Etc.

A Particle whip on his Manticore Missile Launcher gives him a weapon destroyed roll, so he lost one of his missles.

You lose all the missles.

Thanks for your service. Hooah.

Oh, hey... can anyone link me to a place where I can get something like the Urban Road from GW or some other good/cheap road system? Apparently GW's road is discontinued.

EDIT (for the fourth time): I asked a question about the manticore's rules to help define it for Erickson, and I found what I needed online. So my edits were erased here. Still, the above question about the road still plagues me.

A good fiend came back from Iraq a couple years ago, he walks (barely) with a cane now. I wish He had something like this to do over there. Keep it up guys.

Congratulations on the win!

Here are some roads http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=1393 and here http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=876

If you can infiltrate the offices for a color printer here is a link with a printable surface for you. In that web page you also have access to some cool and easy papercraft terrain.

http://www.toposolitario.es/principal/index.html

M.

It's been a slow couple of days, work-wise. I'm in an out of the bunker between tasks, assembly-line painting my Flayed Ones, and working a little bit at a time on my NightBringer.

I think what seems to cause so much problems with the varnish turning milky for some people is too thick of an application, or perhaps poorly shaken mixture. Anyone have any comments on this?

I bought a BUNCH of stuff since last night. A full squad of Pariahs, another two Flayed Ones to max out my squad, GW's moonscape craters (I don't have the supplies for the CD trick out here), a bunch more Vallejo paints and another set of Chessex dice. I bought the plain color ones because they're 6 dollars cheaper a box, and the marbled and nice ones on websites like The War Store and WarWeb often have conflicting pictures and descriptions, or sometimes no pictures at all. I also bought some more Necron Troops to cap off my squads.

I'm eager to see the new two players' armies arrive and get put together, but it takes about three weeks for anything to get here from mainland U.S.

I am really aching for some better terrain, but I loathe looking around the cheaper websites, because their descriptions tend to be a little vague and I want to make sure I'm not buying a piece of garbage. But regardless, since most generic terrain is set for the 40's or the civil war, I may have to just get more creative with my scrap materials.

you need to invest in more Destroyers. That way you wont have to worry as much about them dying right off the bat. Also you can overcome bad dice rolls with volume of fire.
I would also recommend a Destroyer Lord with a Warscythe. Fast, 3 wounds, 4 attacks on the charge that allow absolutely no saving throws, and that also have the ability to count as anywhere between Strength 7 and Strenght 17 against vehicles.

Well, today was a lazy Saturday and I got a lot of painting done. I thought I'd share some pics with you guys.

A note before I start. It seems this forum is chewing through my allotted bandwidth. So I'm going to start posting my pictures in thumbnail format so that you can click on them if you want to see them. Going back and editing all of the other posts would be a tremendous hassle.



Erickson did some more work on one of his Valkyries. I think it looks pretty neat. Erickson is as dedicated to painting his minis as I am, and he's very good at modding. I should have took a picture, of him and the XO taking some bits and making a Teleport Homing Beacon.



I'm doing the Flayed Ones right now, and a little bit on my Nightbringer (it needs a lot of work!). You can see here how one is glossed on the skin and claws, and the other is not. I've gotten the second skin undercoat and gunmetal on the rest of them, but Flayed Ones are incredibly hard to paint. It wasn't until I was almost done with one that I realized that among the myriad of lines and details, what I thought was the edge of skin on the necron's head was a very prominent molding line! I decided it wasn't worth it to strip it, so I continued to paint it up as a layer of skin.



Here is the little bit I have done with my Nightbringer. I'm conflicted on what to do where, because I don't have a huge variety of colors. I try to mix colors if I have to, but I'm really bad at getting it right, and I waste paint doing that. GW does a relatively simple shading effect on it's featured models so I didn't want to go crazy, but on a model this epic, you need to do it right. There's no way I'm going to get it like it is on the box... in fact, I wonder if that picture was edited, because I don't know how anyone can get teeth on that guy. I'm not sure how I'm going to tackle his face and mouth. But I will add a little more color definition to his torso and virtually everywhere else, but this at least gave me an idea of where I want to go with this guy. I know the blue is too bold. By the time I'm done, most of it should be gone. Like I said, I just don't have the variety I need in colors, and if I order paint it takes three weeks to get here.

I have a really nasty habit, by the way, of catching my clothes on models and dragging them off a table that way. It's frustrating, but it became downright embarrassing when I did that to Kehrer's Devilfish yesterday. Argh!

I bought some Zap-A-Gap thinking it was more true to it's name, I.E., a modeling gap filler. No. It's just superglue. At least I'm never going to run out of that out here.

Me, the XO, and Erickson have been tossing the idea for a campaign around but we don't know where to go with it, especially if I'm not going to leave all of the other players' out. And with two new additions to the "club", our spacious bunker is going to get a lot smaller. Even now, we're running out of flat surfaces to put models, and had to take down some cots to place the Tau and Ork army, since they don't get played that often. We were thinking something sort of along the lines of Dark Crusade's campaign, or perhaps a table layout is per planet. I dunno. It's kind of hard to imagine that wood texture to be anything other than a desert, and if we paint a color over it, it's not coming off. I was wondering if you guys had any ideas as far as how to make a good campaign that other players can feel welcome in, and not be losing if they can't play as many games as some because of their mission schedules?

There are tons of ways to do campaigns, but an easy one is just a standard grid pattern with different colored squares to represent different terrain or objectives. Have people pick a spot and expand from there. To expand you have to win a challenge match against any other player in your gaming group, and only one game per week counts towards the campaign and any extras are just for fun. Expansion sizes could be like 1 square for a draw, 2 squares for a minor win, and 3 for higher score. Special squares could represent Hive cities, Manufacturing plants, space stations. Each of these special places could have their own special benefit to your over all army.

Another way is have everyone make like a 5000pt master list (even if they can't field 5000) that you can't change anything on through out the campaign, and you play out smaller battles at like 1000 or 1500 but when a specific model dies it's out of the campaign for good (making every model count). You can cycle through your units or leave half strength ones in but make sure you scratch it off specifically who dies. Once someones 5000 points are gone they drop out of the campaign or they start over if you want it to go a long time. If it gets to where they can't feild a true FOC thats okay just have them try to fill it out as normally as possible. You can do this kind with an experience bonus, where for every game a unit takes place in it gets experience to get cool abilities like tank hunters or infiltrators.

Hope this gives you a jumping off point for your own camaign good luck man.

I like what warwizard described. I have done a campaigns like this, but we used the GW tiles. I would have cities or factories that would give bonuses to the army that controlled it. Good luck and keep up the fight. I would like to know what the IG players has and see if Ican help.

I see the urban road on the gw web site under scenery. Been thinking about getting that one myself. For campaigns I'd do the planetary empires. It's nice and simple. Just paint up the tiles and fight battles. Upgrades give minor benefits. Games can be of varying sizes. Simple victory conditions.

Ringarin, the Urban Road is discontinued. They just have it on their website still, for some reason. You can't order it from them.

They bring it back every so often, normally around Christmas with the Cities of Death boxed deal.

Well, a short post tonight because not a lot happened on this thread or in the bunker.

Progress on my flayed ones ground to a halt after trying to water down my gunmetal and putting in waaay too much water. However, my nightbringer is coming along slowly, and beautifully. I'll no problem stripping it if I want it to come out right, because I'm taking my time with this guy.

The monolith still stands half-done. I am leery about attempting to tackle is in the midst of two other projects. It's a monumental task in itself and it's depressingly beyond my skill level, I think. Though a lot of people have complimented me on it... I'm also still at a loss of what to varnish it with. Gloss? Matte? Satin? Any suggestions anybody?

By the way, if you guys want to see pictures of stuff, feel free to ask away. I can't give you detailed stuff of FOB Echo, but I'll take what I can, and that includes the 40k stuff. If you have any requests of any kind, I'd be more than happy to try to do them. It's the least I can do for you guys' support.

Well, after 24 hours with zero feedback, I'm starting to wonder if I'd be wasting my time posting anything else on this little forum blog. You guys' comments motivate me to share more with everyone. Hopefully it's just a fluke, but if this becomes the norm from here on out, I'm probably going to end posting to this thread in a day or two.

But I do have more stuff for you guys, so here it is:

The afternoon and evening were pretty much just me painting. The other platoons stayed very busy, and everything just got even more hectic when rockets were shot at our FOB.

I'm almost done with all of my flayed ones, but my gunmetal is still out of comission and if I don't let the watered-down soup I made out of it dry out into a functioning paint, I'm going to have to wait until my second order of Vallejo paints come in. But I did what I could with them up to that point, and did a lot more work on my nightbringer and the monolith.

I'll post pictures if you guys seem interested, but I've assembled a few more parts on the 'lith, and have been using Green Stuff to fill in the huge gaps. Now that I have had some experience with other models, and some more tools of the trade, I'm pretty confident I can make at least a decently made 'lith model.

I am holding off on any more matches with the XO until I get my Nightbringer and Flayed ones out on the table. Other guys are fine - in fact, I do much better against them. But for the past couple of days the operations tempo has been pretty high, so it's hard to get them in here long enough to finish a match.

Hopefully in time when my other models get here, I'll be set. The most I can see myself buying of Necrons is perhaps another squad of flayed ones, another 'lith, The Deciever, and some more Destroyers and Heavy Destroyers. But the Necrons are a pretty small race, so there's not much to diversify with for collection's sake. Which is good... they're expensive. ...if I get to the point where I'm pretty good on everything, I'm going to probably branch out to Tyranids or Space Wolves. I don't know if they play well - I just think they look interesting.

Like I said in the above post... if you guys want more details or photos or something specific, let me know. As long as I keep getting positive feedback, I'll keep posting.

EDIT: Why is there an Iraq flag on my post? Wierd.

Hell yeah man keep the posts coming! I wanna see pics of your monolith! If you want I can post a pic of mine if you need any inspiration. I had the same problem with gaps when I put mine together. A lot of it comes from warps in the plastic, my buddy and I got rid of most of them by heating the plastic and bending it back into shape, and then we filled the gaps by gluing them and holding them together with duct tape till they dried.

As a fellow Necron player, I would highly recommend investing in Immortals. Get as many as you can, because they kick major ass and are much better than Flayers and Pariahs. They are harder to kill than Warriors and they get a Str 5 Assault 2 weapon with a 24" range. Seriously run two ten man squads of them and the only way you enemy can reliably kill them is if he gets into CQB with them and uses power weapons.

Keep up the good work man!

People are still viewing your little blog, troop, just look at the "viewed" column for your thread. Me, personally, I don't get too thrilled by battle reports, but I've been skimming and viewing the pictures. Sorry if I don't have much to say, but just like a just-cause, you have to keep up the fight even if nobody thanks you.

It is always good to hear from a fellow soldier and a fellow gamer, and anything to keep yourself occupied over there is worth the time. Weekends are usually slower on Dakka (people do other things than the internet you know!), and you have posted a lot recently (which discourages some people to replying, due to an over abundance of information. Odd concept, I know, but that's usually how it goes), so maybe keeping things KISS might be better.

P.S.: The little flags show the flag of the location they are logging on from (each country has a special IP). For a while guys in country were showing up posting from K-stan, Germany, Saudi, Kuwait, and others, where ever the info was being re-routed from (since coalition internet wasn't funneled through Iraqi systems).

I hardly ever post on dakka, but do I really enjoy your thread, I admire what you guys are doing out there and still have time for the hobby.
I really like your flayed ones, they are coming along nicely, so if there are any more pics I'd love to see them.

Please keep posting because it show no matter where you go you will find a 40K game going on somewhere. Ilike reading your batrep. cool your XO is playing. keep safe.

sir mongo wrote:Please keep posting because it show no matter where you go you will find a 40K game going on somewhere. Ilike reading your batrep. cool your XO is playing. keep safe.

QFT
When you take on the XO please do another batrep so we can witness your crushing victory.
Keep up the good work.

Great thread, glad you guys are having fun getting into the game. Thanks to all of you for being there, stay safe and come home soon!

You folks are making great progress, it's good to have such a self-contained group, really keeps motivation up. I really like the terrain you've made - pre-made is nice and easy, but homemade is cooler and more satisfying (and tons cheaper!). Masking tape is good on cardboard buildings to cover up the exposed parts, and spackle or paint w/sand in it is good to give extra textures. Paper mache will also give you some rock-solid stuff.

For roads you could just cut up some wood or cardstock into various road shapes and lay them down in the desired pattern. Same for rivers and such (could do roads on one side, river on the other for double duty).

If you're looking for some premade terrain, I can recommend Amera - http://www.amera.co.uk/product.php?range=z - very lightweight and thin but strong plastic. I got a bunch of their trench pieces years ago, they have quite a variety. Tell them where you're at, the size of order you want and ask about shipping. Back when I had it sent to the US they were very reasonable. Trenches, roads, rivers, buildings, wrecked buildings, bunkers, etc.

Hey great stuff - not sure how I missed this thread up until now - but after reading though the whole thing its awesome. I especially like where you are going with the Nightbringer. You familiar with drybrushing? You might try that on the face.

After my recent tour and ETS from the Army (couldn't get anyone into 40k) its awesome to see such a thriving group playing over there. Stay safe and keep us updated.

Great Stuff man, don't worry about VERY MINOR dips in interest. It's nothing. Threads like this can keep going for ages,as I've said, this thread has pretty much everything!

I agree with Corvus that Immortals are good, however I'd say 2x10 is a bit much, especially for your wallet. Heavy Destroyers or another lith would be a good investment too though. I can thoroughly understand you not playing your XO until your army's been beefed up, I'd say it's because of the amount of (heavy) armour he has compared to your anti-tank abilities, which should be sorted with the Night Bringer.

Keep it up.

I've found that I always have much better luck making a vehicle combat-ineffective with my warriors/immortals than I do with any anti-tank units the necrons have to offer. Mainly through sheer volume of fire and auto-glance on 6.

Granted, I know that has to do with luck of the dice as well, but I'd rather take 20+ shots and almost guarantee a glance or two rather than 3 shots with the same chance to hit and a better chance to pen. But that's just me I guess, it's just been more effective that way for me.

I like seeing the enthusiasm of new players posted up like this.. I remember when the hobby was new and exciting and everything was too cool.

Keep posting, this is a good and fun read

Hey guys!

A shipment of mail came in today and XO and Kehrer got new units in. Everyone's been spending the last few days painting (or not being around too much ). Erickson is done painting nearly all of his models, and is planning on buying a great deal more. More troops to be more flexible with his FOC and more vehicles because IG troops are nearly worthless. The XO picked up the new Sanguinor and the Blood Angels codex, and he got a scout team and a devastator squad. It's looking like he's been doing a homebrewed chapter with Blood Angels rules. Kehrer got a Hammerhead Gunship and two Sniper Drone teams.

The PX got a new shipment of books in today, and there were actually quite a few Sci-fi and fantasy books! Among the whole Forgotten Realms and Warcraft books, there were quite a few 40K books as well! Between the two of us we got one copy of every book they had available. I myself got 4 books in the Horus Heresy series, as well as Angels of Darkness and Ice Guards. XO got Cain's Last Stand, Dawn of War II (novel), and a handful of others. 12 total books between the two of us. I'd better get to reading!

Sorry if I jumped the gun on expectations from posters in the forum. I'm a pretty spazzy guy.

Since several people have new units in, and the XO and I are on game hiatus until we get some more breathing room in army flexibility, we again spent the entire evening painting. I took some pictures I thought you guys might like. Some might be a bit blurry - I'm no photographer.



You can see here where I let the Green Stuff dry to fill in cracks in my monolith's corners. They haven't been shaped down yet. Green stuff can be kind of rebellious to work with, particularly in small areas, but when it dries, it's just like plastic. Just be careful when trying to spread or scrape the stuff when it's still wet, because it will tend to smear and is tough to get off of surfaces (including fingers) if it's a layer thinner than paper. The only issue I have with it is that it's no JB Weld and does not have much adhesive properties once dry.



After attempting to file the rough surface of the Green Stuff filler, I realized it would take quite some time and I ran the risk of doing damage to the body and applying the file unevenly. You can see here where I accidentally filed some of the paint off. I instead decided to try to see if I could use a hobby knife to shave it even, and oddly enough, it worked out just fine. Except for one corner, where I accidentally cut too deep and it ended up peeling a large section of the green stuff I applied off of the model. Again with the non-adhesive part. But I wasn't too worried. Come to find out, Green Stuff, even GW's brand, goes a long way and considering how little you need to do a lot, it's not that expensive. I try not to hand out all of my tools to everyone else because I know they'll go missing (like they have before), but I volunteered to let anyone who wanted to try to use a little green stuff I had left over for altering their models - which is something Erickson and Kehrer love to do.



Here I painted over the surface. Unfortunately, my black basecoat paint is a bit glossier than the spraypaint I used to basecoat the vehicle so it will stand out a little. I will have to apply the regular paint over a lot of the surface to give it an even tint. But you can see here how green stuff can be used to fill gaping cracks in a model and make it look respectable.



Here is my Nightbringer thus far. Actually, I've done a lot of work on it since this and the following picture were taken, but you get the idea of where I'm going with it from this photo. A lot of my painting time was spent trying to even up jagged paint edges and try to fix small errors. It's highly time consuming and even more tedious than I had expected, but it can make a decent model look great. At least, from a newb's perspective. My only concern is that after enough corrections, the layers of paint from corrections will start to get so thick that the model starts to look a little rough. I'm actually starting to get that on the wrapping draping between it's legs, but I don't know if I want to go through with stripping it because I can barely notice it unless I touch it. I may have to get a q-tip with alcohol and try to get only that surface. I'm just dreading having to start from bare pewter on this thing again.



This photo was an accident but I like what it did, so I'm sharing it with you guys. You can see from my index finger that the Nightbringer's face is microscopic. Again strengthening my suspicions that the Nightbringer's box art are photoshopped. What the light did to here was show a glaring mess I missed with my naked eye. What I was attempting to capture was a rather acciental job on creating a fairly good "tongue"... The discolorations in varying shades of grey/black, and the white speckles from where a stray hair from my brush hit the wrong part of the face are rather obvious here.

Also, you probably can't see this, but I messed up the left side of his hood as you look at it while trying to clip off some weird deformation in it's neck. The clippers opened wide enough to catch the edge of the hood and pressed it closer to the face and carved a gap in it I plan on painting it as if it were a fold or wrinkle in the cloth, since that's all I can really do.

Honestly, from a casual onlooker, most of these things never come into view. Sure, larger models like my 'lith and Nightbringer tend to show small imperfections much easier, as you can see from the photos.

Other than praise for the current paintjob (which is a bit better than the pics you see here, but nowhere near done), the most common comment is that they thought the model would be bigger. Of course, some of these guys may be identifying what they know of the models from Dawn of War 1 and 2. I'm going to have to draw the line and realize that without years of practice and hundreds of dollars in tools, my models will never look Codex-picture quality, and I am going to learn how to gauge myself to figure out what is exceptional work considering my level of skill.

Kevin949 wrote:
I'd rather take 20+ shots and almost guarantee a glance or two rather than 3 shots with the same chance to hit and a better chance to pen.

I tend to lean with Kevin's opinion here. A full squad of necron troops at 2 shots apiece can almost always severely damage a vehicle in one turn. It's not as amazing as downing a vehicle in one shot with a particle whip, but it's an ability that shouldn't be overlooked. Particularly when fighting skimmers that crash when immobilized, your scarabs with disruptions fields and troops can do a fairly good job at dropping vehicles. With one squad of Heavy Destroyers, you only get three chances to even damage the vehicle, and if you don't have another squad nearby, the squad only needs three wounds (instead of a full Warrior Squad's 20) to be taken off the board.

I know a couple of you guys, Corvus included, tend to really talk up destroyers. Yes, they have their good speed and ability to easily wound and ignore all but the lowest armor saves. But they only have one wound apiece, they're fairly expensive, they're not game-winning unit, and it's MUCH harder to keep them alive in their small, spread-out squads. I do wonder if I'd be better off just putting more troops on the field around a res orb and just overwhelm the enemy in an enormous volume of fire and keep counting on that res orb and extra WBB rolls from the 'lith to curb my losses.

On that matter, let's talk about Immortals. Corvus and Dave, don't get me wrong - they're some seriously tough units. But I just don't see how they're going to do me any better against Terminators and power-weapon heavy armies (like I've been facing) than the respectably hardy Warriors. Their two shots at 24" and Assault weapon means that they can actually stand their ground in Melee, but is it worth the point cost? Would I not be better off spending the points on a full squad of Warriors or a monolith?

Let me know what you guys think. And let me know what you guys think is a good way to varnish my 'lith.


EDIT: Corvus, I'd love to see a pic of your 'lith. And Besring (If I spelled that right), I'll get pictures of the flayed ones up within a few days, I just need to brew my own gunmetal wit my metallic medium and get back to work on them. They're almost finished, they just need some errors fixed and then need to be varnished.

Really, if the dice are not favoring you, a H.Destroyer squad can be offed by one wound if you fail the leadership test and fly off the board, with 3d6 fall back it's not hard to do. :(

Also, immortals have proven themselves time and again in my games to be a very survivable and damaging unit. With a stronger weapon and higher toughness they are a GREAT entourage for your lord +res orb, especially since they don't get downed with no WBB by the prevalent str8/9 weapons in those same power weapon heavy armies like warriors will. They always pay for their points in one fashion or another and are almost always still full strength at game end. Again, just my experiences with them.

Immortals are most certainly worth the points. Think of them as a beefed-up Warrior squad. They can do all the same things as Warriors, only better. That 24" double tap can be a lifesaver if you are facing an assault oriented army. Unless it is something totally rediculous like Blood Angels with Sanguinary Priest spam, those extra long range Str 5 shots will put a nice dent in assaulting forces, whittling them down into something more managable for your Warriors.

Immortals aways kill my Landspeeder heavy Blood Angels. I would take them.

Really great stuff. The paint jobs are very well done. Keep up the great work!

Just a warning, your Nightbringer is going to be the target of every heavy weapon whenever it's on the table, and will likely be dropped within a turn or two, use that to your advantage! (And if, for whatever reason, it's NOT targeted, then just go kick some ass with it)

Ok guys, got a bit more work done on my models, and some pics to show. I've gotten through the first couple of chapters of Horus Rising and I'm enthralled.

I'm aching to get at another game, but the XO has been painting a lot recently, which isn't saying much because for better or worse, it takes him ages to complete a model. He is going a much better job than I expected him to, though. So I guess it pays off. Necrons, at least, most of them, are relatively easy to paint. In details like those of the Flayed Ones I'm beginning to wonder if I totally farked them up and should have expected more from myself. And there I go again with the expecting perfection when I know I'm a newb.

With the Nightbringer, it's gotten to the point that most errors I try to fix end up putting something wrong somewhere else. I am, however, getting better at the whole "thin line to highlight an edge" thing. A few of the lines on my Nightbringer are close to perfect. Most are not, though.



I've started gloss varnishing parts of the nightbringer I've had to call finished because I can't get more perfection out of it, and for some reason a few spots seem to shed paint spontaneously while I'm not looking. Most of the lower robes, and the lower wrappings, are varnished now. And I 'm not sure if I did it before or after the picture, but I varnished his chest as well.

The face is, honestly, about as good as I can expect to get it. Which honestly, I think isn't bad. Not perfect, but considering the skill level at where I started, I can see where I am improving at this.



Here you can see it in normal light. I had wondered if the blue was a bit too much but everyone else seems to love it, so I'm going to stick with it.



It would be hilarious if I had a model of Michael Jackson in Thriller garb attatched to this squad. Anyway, this kind of gives it a dark creepy feeling. I do like my Flayed ones, but most of them aren't totally finished yet, and they have a lot going on in their shape and detail, so much so that I easily mistook skin for metal, and metal for skin. I don't know if I'm willing to go through with ever making another squad, because they were truely a pain.




I'm at the point where if I need to bad enough, I'll stick the Nightbringer in it's base long enough to have a match against the XO. We may even do it tomorrow. I'm ready for some payback.

Thanks again to all of the guys who are shipping stuff over here to help us out. I've gotten another request for that today, and I just want to let you all know, I truly do appreciate it.

It was a short update today, I know. Most of us were busy. We're also trying to concoct a campaign (still) and coming out with a better way to document Batreps. I have a hardback blank book dedicated to that purpose, so hopefully I'll have some better content for you guys in the near future.


EDIT: Holy cow! I walk into the bunker to grab something I left in there, and at 1:15 in the morning and Erickson, Kehrer and Quinn are in there, and they made another table and built a bunch of scenery, to include a battlefield with short hills divided by a river with a bridge! I'll take pictures and post them tomorrow.

Flayed Ones look awesome really adds some grim dark to the army.

Some pretty nice armies there, and you have all of my respect for your service.

If you can, try and get/make some washes out there. Some careful washing would go a long way on just about any basically colored model!

I agree with Owain. mix up a red wash (enough paint and water to make it kinda soup runny) and hit the metal parts next to the flesh. I think that would really help with the look.

First, the obligatory thanks for serving our country.

Congratulations on the fully based and painted army. I have been playing for 3 years and have painted a scarce handful of models, I am mostly into playing the game, and the books etc.

I wish it was as easy as that to recruit my friends into 40k. Though I can see why it would get rather dull out there.

As far as the games go... good luck with your future endeavours. My earlier matches resulted poorly, though when I switched to more optimal choices... I lost sight of the hobby for the most part and ended up resenting myself for it... pitiful me.

Good thing that is going on out there, great hobby being played by better men. I just have one question:

-How did you get into 40k out there? Did another person suggest it from time back home, or was there some kind of ad on the internet? Just something I was wondering from the first post.

Yeah I was wondering the same thing as Syphonious. How'd you and your buddies all wind up getting involved with 40K? I need a few tips for when I deploy, you know? See if I can get a deployed 40K team going

Corvus wrote:Yeah I was wondering the same thing as Syphonious. How'd you and your buddies all wind up getting involved with 40K? I need a few tips for when I deploy, you know? See if I can get a deployed 40K team going

That unfortunately seems like a once in a lifetime sort of thing.

I bet he bribed 'em with candy, or extreme bordem forced them into it.

Any painting done is better than no painting done. There's several friends that are working on painting stuff and one that will probably never paint. Most people around here have the attitude of playing is better than painting. I have a hard time fielding unpainted stuff though. If you can paint the core units you start with and paint new units as you add them you will do very well. I had a burst of money to spend and have accumulated way too many models that aren't painted. Sounds like the hobby is spreading nicely and that those involved are going to stay involved.

If you have the big rule book there are some decent rules for campaigns. Pretty simple, which is what makes them useful. I have my planetary empires painted up except for 1 tile. Player fluctuations though have put the campaign on hold. Sounds like you have a player base that will be dedicated enough to stick with it though. I'd say start with a simple map campaign with a narrative to it. Map of cities and rivers and such. Narrative would obviously be reason behind the battle. The two combined would be a good start. I'm trying to start with a simple version of the campaign and then work my way up to a campaign with a set army list of 10k points that units lost are lost for the rest of the campaign. With a few replacement points here and there. If you do a campaign that lasts a month at a time that would probably work best. Short enough that people aren't devoting 6 months to. Long enough that people can get to enjoy the experience.

Well, I promised pictures of the terrain, and I got them. I also finished my Nightbringer! Everyone's been so busy working on their models, that we still haven't played a game, which is fine - either way they are enthusiastic and participating.



Here is something Erickson put together on our second table (if you want to call it that). The river is of course half done, but you can see the bridge and how they used sand and glue to give a "waves" appearance in the water. Right now he's using bits of sprue frames to make trees, but he's currently trying to figure out how to get "leaves" on them.



Kehrer put this together out of boredom. No new terrain, but I feel I should post it to show what the other guys besides me are doing. I'm not sure I'm a fan of the huge white building, because we'll have to come up with some special rules to get regular troops up on the very high balcony. There are no stairs, ladders, or elevators made on it.



And my Nightbringer, glossed over and done. Unfortunately the angle didn't catch a good view of what I settled on for his face, but you can see where I carved up bits of sprue tree and painted them like necron crystals. He's got a full gloss coat, except for the dirt in the base where the scarabs are, and I am considering keeping it that way. Speaking of which, the gloss varnish does an excellent job of protecting models. At least, the lighter weight ones. Our concrete floor is not very model friendly and something as heavy as a Nightbringer would probably break off a limb or bend it beyond repair, but a dropped flayed one bounce around a bit and was found untouched. EDIT: Actually I'm going to paint the base sand the same color as the dirt that the scarabs are springing out of. I just had to wait for the PVA glue to dry tonight.



Flayed ones shambling in a graveyard. I did some more work on these guys, but they're still not quite done. I'm at the stage now where I need to get them one at a time and correct all of the little errors before I varnish any more. I tend to lose track of which ones need which error fixed because they all look so similar and I forget which ones they are after I set them down.

Ringarin wrote:

I'd say start with a simple map campaign with a narrative to it. Map of cities and rivers and such. Narrative would obviously be reason behind the battle.

I'm not sure if I said this before, but there is an ongoing debate amongst the players on whether to go with one planet with multiple locations, or multiple planets in multiple systems with one board layout each. Kehrer hopped on photoshop and took a planet image from google search. I really like it. Frankly I think that many of the players would probably jump in on whatever is offered, but since most of us would rather paint and play matches than sit down and have a committee on what they agree or disagree on a 5-race campaign, the going is slow. I plan on getting it done... eventually.

Here is the result of Kehrer's work:



Though I'm not sure how we'd do a battle on an asteriod realistically, with Imperial Guard having a lack of environment suits.

Corvus wrote:

Yeah I was wondering the same thing as Syphonious. How'd you and your buddies all wind up getting involved with 40K? I need a few tips for when I deploy, you know? See if I can get a deployed 40K team going

Well, Erickson played a little bit back stateside, and had some of his unassembled models shipped over so that he could waste time painting them on his own, even without the game. The XO liked the Dawn of War game and the novels, so inspired by that he bought a few models to try the game out with Erickson. Barnett is the kind of guy to waste his money on any bandwagon he can jump on, so he bought a bunch of Orks so that he could play with Erickson. And Kehrer, sensing another nerdy pastime taking root, bought some Tau. Though he was virtually in the same position as Barnett. After a while, that enthusiasm died out, mostly because none of them had the patience to sit and read the byzantine set of rules and run through several games like slowed lab rats until they figured it out. When I arrived a couple of months after everyone else got here, I recognized the models but everyone else wasn't too interested anymore, except for Erickson who continued to paint his models. The XO put the wrong mailing adress on his shipping order, and so it never arrived (the reason was unknown to him at the time). When I talked to the XO about seeing if he could get his space marines shipped here again, he seemed passively ok with the idea, but it took three weeks of bugging him to get him to go and call GW. Once I got my pieces in, I was nagging the crap out of everyone else who had bought models before to get in on it. Previously, they had used another platoon's bunker and where wasn't much space. Add to that the problem with a bunch of grunt meatheads thinking them inexpensive armymen and messing with them as such, and it's a recipie for disaster.

EDIT: Everyone except for Erickson and myself only previously knew 40K by the Dawn of War game. The XO had started with Dawn of War in West Point military academy and was suggested it by his friend. He didn't really think they were that aweseome until he read The Horus Heresy series by Dan Abnett (Does anyone know what volume order those books go in?) Quinn looked at my nightbringer one night and said, "I don't remember seeing that in Dawn of War. Is it new?"
"No," I replied, "Remember when you build that wierd little building that lets you transform your necron lord into that huge powerful thing? This is that powerful thing."

Our HQ bunker, virtually bare at the time, seemed like an excellent idea. It was a bunker dedicated for R&R activities, but HQ is so spread out and there was nothing to do there, so no one ever set foot in there. I passed the idea by my platoon sergeant and he was ok with us setting up a "nerd area" in that bunker. Kehrer and I set up the first table, as he was the first guy to jump on the idea to get the 40K started again, and him, I, and Barnett went through a couple of half-played tryout games as I red the book and learned the ins and outs of the rules (enough to not completely mess it up, at least). We encouraged the others to bring their stuff in and over the span of a week or two, Barnett and Erickson started moving their models in with ours. The XO's models arrived a week after that as well, and his stuff was starting to get assembled.

Things didn't really take off until we started playing full games with me having a really good concept of the rules. Once me and the XO ran through a couple of games and he learned the rules as well, his interest soared, as he found that the game was actually really fun. And as we play and learn what we would like in our army, we ordered more. More brushes, files, knives, paint, models, vehicles, ect. It got costly quick, so we share as much as we can.

Onlookers like Quinn and Lt. Krick just got enthused about doing something besides sitting in their barracks unit and playing XBOX, so they bought some as well. Most interest from newcomers and onlookers comes from the varied armies of painted miniatures that actually wows them out of their prejudiced "too nerdy for me" mindset. It also helps if they know Dawn of War. Not to mention, now there were almost always people in the bunker in the evenings, listening to music, having a stocked fridge, laughing, playing 40K, and having a great time.

So there you have it. Oh, and Corvus, we get our stuff through mail order. Almost all of it is GW brand as some places don't ship to APO addresses because they think (falsely) it will be considered international mail. I've also ordered a few things from TheWarStore and WarWeb, when I can afford them. Like I said, we share most of our tools, and all of our scenery is made out of junk and trash laying around. It takes about two and a half weeks for stuff we order to get here.

That's awesome

I'm probably going to wind up in Afghanistan this summer, so I was thinking of ordering some Tyranids while I'm there to pass the time when I'm not working. Who knows, maybe I'll pass it along to the dudes I work with

As far as getting leaves on your trees you could try gluing flock to them to give them a pine needle effect. You can either buy it from a lot of online stores (overpriced) or you can make it yourself by just putting some water in a bucket, adding green paint, and then dumping in sawdust. Mix it up, dry it out, and mash up any clumps and you're all set. It's also nice because you can have a whole range of shades by just using more or less paint.

diesel7270 wrote:

A Mountain Dew can in Arabic. Gamers truly are universal!

I'm really liking with what you have done with the flayed ones.
Keep up the good work

besring wrote:I'm really liking with what you have done with the flayed ones.
Keep up the good work

QFT

Whats up everyone specialist Erickson here.I`ve been keeping an eye on this thread since Sgt. Mcdowell started it. i think he has done a great job so far.But since our internet is so slow here he told me uploading pictures takes forever.so im going to start to post up some pics my self so y`all can get the whole view of what we are doing here.but i will do my best to post as many pics as i can of all of our armies,games and ect... on behalf of all of us from the bunker thanks for your support,and all the helpful info.Imperius Dominatus...
"E"

Hey Erickson, welcome to Dakka!

Loving the [new] terrain and I look forward to seeing it in a bat rep, nice job with your models so far Diesel (<-- I wear that aftershave!)

In regards to your query about the Horus Heresy Books it goes:
- Horus Rising
- False Gods
- Galaxy in Flames
- Flight of The Eisenstien
- Fulgrim
- Descent of Angels
- Legion
- Battle for the Abyss
- Mechanicum
- Tales of Heresy
- Fallen Angels
- Thousand Sons
- Fall of Prospero.

I'm yet to read the most recent 2, but I can thoroughly recommend the others, except from Descent of Angels, Fallen Angels and the rubbish Battle for the Abyss.

Good Luck.

Battle wasn't THAT bad...but yeah - avoid the Dark Angel books like the plague. Horrid stuff. And glad to have you here E_ninja13. Keep us updated!

Weclome to Dakka Erickson.
I love what you have done to your guard, looks better than mine.

Having only read Mechanicum, i can only comment on it and it was GREAT!
I never got the others because I get distracted with othere things.

But i can recommend the Imperial Guard Omnibus: Volume 1
It was a great book, which contained the novels Fifteen Hours, Death World and Rebel Winter.

All this stories were great, my personel favourite was Fifteen Hours.

Keep up the Good Work, both of you. Well actually tell everyone to keep up the good work!

Don't forget trees can also be wrecked/destroyed/burned trees. Those don't require leaves. Or fall where the leaves are on the ground.

Regarding your comments about your painting skill level and how you think you'll never get to a much higher level:


There are two extremely simple techniques that go a LONG way in painting miniatures.
Anyone can paint at a really impressive looking level with these techniques.



The first technique is using washes:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=&pIndex=0&aId=6800011&start=1

All you have to do is paint your flat base colors, then paint a wash over it (of an appropriate color). You have awesome shading in seconds.
Just don't use absolute black as a base color (because the wash would have no effect)... Instead use like dark gray with a black wash (this would make a black color with grey highlights).




Second is drybrushing:

You mentioned that you're familiar with drybrushing, but it's a tool that can be used on EVERYTHING.
Instead of painstakingly painting, correcting, and repainting the highlights on your nightbringer, you can simply drybrush them on.
You will end up with nice smooth and beautiful highlights on all the raised areas.

To drybrush correctly, first get a brush that will be dedicated for drybrushing (because it will ruin the brush for any other purpose).
It should be relatively big (they have drybrush specific brushes at the warstore) and is probably best if it's flat-tipped.

So, first dip the tip of your brush in your highlight paint.
Then wipe off ALL of the paint on a napkin or newspaper or something. You should wipe until there's literally no paint coming off on the napkin at all.
Then you just flick your brush over the raised areas that you want to highlight (you're basically smacking the model with your brush back and forth really fast). You have to do it pretty rapidly, because since there's hardly any pigment in your brush, it takes a lot of strokes to build up the highlight. The large number of strokes is what gives it a nice soft gradient.


Once you've done these two steps, your model will look pretty much finished (and pretty awesome), and it only took like 20 minutes (or less). All that's left is to pick out the special bits (buttons, trim, eyes, etc.).

You could also reverse these steps (highlight, then wash the whole model), and you would end up with a more uniform color scheme.



Anyway, nothing wrong with your current methods (Nightbringer is looking good).
I'm just saying these are techniques everyone really should learn and master as soon as possible, because they will save you hours and hours of work, and your models will look a lot better.

Plus, they're easy as balls.

Later.

Thanks for all you guys do.

I'm loving this thread and decided to thank you guys.

Bloog is right with his tips. The big thing is don't get discouraged.

My painting has gotten better just by being stubborn and continuing to paint. Practice will make you better. I've stripped and repainted my Ork Warboss 3 times now after learning how to get a technique right and practicing with it.

Keep heart with the Necrons. They are getting a new codex at the end of the year (if the rumors are true).

Thanks again,

I was at the train shop yesterday, and saw something I think you folk at FOB Echo might love.

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/ReadyGrassVinylMat

They come rolled up in tubes like posters, and all you'd have to do is apply some staples around the corners of the table to keep it in place.

I won't lie to you, Necrons are probably the most difficult army to play right now. Case in point, last night I played against a SSgt who was using a fairly competetive Night Lords CSM list. I have played him twice already, and I know what to expect (Rhino rush, Daemon Prince, Defiler, etc) Even with prior experience and knowing which of my units would be do best against his, I got tabled by turn 3.

Bottom line: unless you have lots of lucky dice rolls (I don't) a good MEQ list will pretty much destroy you every time. Necrons are just too slow, too expensive, and too easy to kill in CC. I've decided to shelve mine and use my Eldar until the Necrons get their new Codex.

My buddy tried to rhino rush me with his BT this past weekend. By the end of my first turn I had destroyed one, stunned one, and took the weapons off the other two and I think stunned them as well.

Needless to say though that fight went VERY VERY well in my favor. It was a 1500 point game and the only unit he destroyed of mine was my scarab swarm and one heavy destroyer (squad of 3). Everything else lived. Granted I was pretty lucky that day and he was unlucky with his deep strike rolls on his dreads (all three deviated away from me letting me immobilize one when it dropped and the other was stuck in difficult terrain the next turn).

Yes, necrons are difficult to play against MEQ right now but it's not impossible. I know you said lucky dice rolls and that is true, but it's true for most any army really. The issue with necrons is that there is pretty much only two or three load outs that will work and if you deviate from it then you're asking for failure. It's aggravating and it gets boring to ALWAYS play the same or similar list.

yeah i hear you, I'm just not currently willing to spend all my money on Destroyers right now, simply because the only way to keep them effective is to have so many your enemy can't alpha strike them all in one turn. Also, the dice gods hate me and my glances and pens are always crap, so those rhinos and defilers basically just waltz right up and unleash hell.

Appreciate your service, mate.

I know a particularly good necron buld going like Lord w/ Rez Orb, minimum two squads of 10 warriors, max amount of immortals, a 'lith, and some Heavy Destroyers.

Basically, think of immortals as Warriors with Big Guns.

Hey guys, sorry about the delay. FOB Kalsu got hit and we went under a communications blackout. I spent last night varnishing my flayed ones and putting a layer of sand on the base of all of the models I hadn't done to yet, including painting the sand base of the nightbringer to match it's pewter dirt formation.

I also started varnishing the destroyers. I'm probably not going to bother varnishing the Warriors or the Scarabs.

I don't have much to give you right now, because I didn't bother taking pictures if I couldn't get on the internet to upload them. I'll get you guys another update and probably some pictures tonight.

Erickson did take you guys' advice and did the green-painted cotton thing to make tall grass, and has also made some excellent jungle-themed trees. For our campaign we decided that every player should design 5 different worlds, on any combination of star systems, and we've got the basic theory behind our campaign rules covered.

Working on my 'lith, the Green Stuff has begun to prove itself a bit more difficult than I had previously experienced. It still looks better than it did, but perfectly edged corners didn't work out quite like I had hoped. As I had mentioned a while back on another thread, some parts of my 'lith are mauled beyond repair. The only recourse I have is to continue what I can, make it look as good as I can for the time being, and if I feel spry, get another one further down the line.

Good news, though! One of the onlookers, Phillips (one of our Supply guys) bought a Tyranid Battleforce to try and join the crowd. Unfortunately, he couldn't figure out how to type in the adress to get it shipped here, so he had it shipped to his home in the hopes that his family would mail it to him promptly. So, it might be a while before he gets it.

Whats up everyone! Ok yesterday did`nt have to much going on just some terrain creation.I`m quite proud. Like diesel7270 said.I did find a way to make palm trees.I`m actually kinda amazed my self how well they turned out.But the bad news is I can`t find my dang camera so I might have to go buy a new one.But I will get some pictures up sometime today.Thanks for the cotton ball idea it worrked great! Now I am in the process of trying to creat a jungle set up,or at least tropical setup.I`m gonna start looking for my camera right now!


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Kanluwen wrote:I was at the train shop yesterday, and saw something I think you folk at FOB Echo might love.

http://woodlandscenics.woodlandscenics.com/show/category/ReadyGrassVinylMat

They come rolled up in tubes like posters, and all you'd have to do is apply some staples around the corners of the table to keep it in place.

I will definatly look into this.I could get crazy with this stuff! thanks! "E"



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ok how do i post pics on this thread?

These are my valkerie/vandetta gunships finished! The decals on the front of each are hand painted.I drew the designs with pencil then outlined them with a fine tooth brush.Then eventually filled them in.Not to shabby!

Painted the door gunner also.

Front view..

Now those are just awesome, they remind me of the A10

In "ace High," I put a kill count on the side,using IG decals.If you`ve see the movie,"TOP GUN." The pilot and gunner have "Maverick and Goose`s," hemlets.thought it would be a nice touch.

Just read through this whole thread. Very good stuff! I want to see one of you guys beat the XO!

"E" release the manticore on 'em. Get some chimeras for your troops. Run them in VET squads with 3 plasma guns.

Your vendettas are great.

But really, look into the heavy artillery options and proxy some models for some games to see how it goes. You should be able to pop that power armor easily.

You guys need to melta gun that land raider.

Excellent freehand, your very talented, mate.

Shame none of you are into Fantasy out there ^.^

OK while our internet is still pretty fast I`m going to showcase as much as I can.This is my custom made version of Lord Castilian Creed.I had a bunch of bits from various squads and sets.His body is made from a space marine scout.The hemet was a regular IG helmet.With some precision cutting I sliced of the IG face and replaced it ith a skull found on the back of a chaos terminator.Apply mythril silver and you get a bad ass armor face plate.On the front of the helmet I glued and imperial shoulder pad to make an up-armoured kevlar.The red ponytail coming out of the helmet was donated from an orkboy. The shoulder pads are a mix.One IG and one Space marine terminator.They are different sizes but it turned out to look really good.So I rolled with it. I sliced the insignia off his belt buckle from a flamer fuel tank. His imperial insignia kneepads were shaved off of lasguns.His scythe is nothing more then a sewing needle,and a cut-out piece of plastic from a five star notebook and a spike fro a chaos terminator.All of my officers wear solid green instead of camo.I lined his cape with gold around the edge and poof,my custom made lord creed,In full armor..


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Don`t worry Byte I got some plans for the XO.I hav`nt played him since I made the Manticore.But I`ll Share my Storm eagle rockets with His space marines I Aint stingy..lol But I have 3 Lemann Russ tanks on the way and I have an idea for them.I have a bunch of little magnets I plan to make detachable guntubes so I can change their abilities for different enemies..

My next custom piece is Col."Iron hand" Straken.His body is made from a IG jungle fighter.His head is a jungle fighter head with some mods.The head already had a bandana on I just made custom tails where it is supposed to me tied in the back.His bionic eye was made from cut and carved plastic,that was extremly difficult.You cant see them but there is wires running into his face too.When I built him I opened my codex and did my best to make him look just like the picture,but in a different pose.His bionic arm is made from a chaos terminator ar I just shortened it.The knife is a chaos terminator knife,the hand guard on the knife is made from the spikes of a chaos terminator weapon also.Then I added some blood and flesh chunks to the blade.I had to use my smallest tipped brush to paint his necklace but it turned out ok.His shotgun is made out of a flamer,just a little slicing and dicing.The aligator head on his hip is made from the Generous chaos terminator that donated his head.The aligator`s teeath are made from the blade of a chain sword.The sling is made fom a rubber band.I put a black IG skull decal on his arm as a tattoo.XO donated a plasma pistol.And last but not least I took my time painting him and this is the end result.

"Iron Hand" rear view..

Nice conversions and free hand.

Karon wrote:Excellent freehand, your very talented, mate.

Shame none of you are into Fantasy out there ^.^

Thank you...


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Alright folks time to rack out.Thanks for the kind words.I`ll post some more custom pieces tomorrow,and talk mods.I hope you like the pics and continue to contribute to this thread.Your support is appriciated."E" signing out from the bunker.Imperious Dominatus....

I've scheduled a match with the XO tomorrow with my Nightbringer. E has allready shown you guys a lot of what has been going on, but he's also made a crapload of awesome terrain that I'm sure he'll share with you shortly.

I'll have a batrep ready tomorrow, provided we both get a chance to go through with the match. I've finished absolutely everything except my Monolith at this point, and now that I've gotten a lot better at edge-shading lines, it will probably end up for the better that I've waited.

I'll see you guys tomorrow!

hello everyone! i've finally made it to the forum! first i would like to thank everyone who is taking the time and making the effort to keep up with us and our rag tag group of distinguished gentlemen over here. and thanks for the encouragement also. i just hopped online to say hello but this is not the last you will hear from me!

For The Emporer,
xo

We're slowly corrupting an entire Forward Operating Base.

This is...this is excellent.



Raptor Kaiser approves!

well "E" finally told me of the forum earlier so i decided to join up, i will post pics of my army when i get the chance(when i finally paint them) >>until then,
WAAAAAAGGHHH!!!!!!!!

I hope to God the guys I deploy with are this awesome.

And "E", your Vendettas and conversion models are simply AMAZING. Keep up the good work man!

LiveByThePowerFist wrote:hello everyone! i've finally made it to the forum! first i would like to thank everyone who is taking the time and making the effort to keep up with us and our rag tag group of distinguished gentlemen over here. and thanks for the encouragement also. i just hopped online to say hello but this is not the last you will hear from me!

For The Emporer,
xo

Hey XO, great job out there. A real moral booster I'd say. Great way to blow off steam and take your minds off the environment. I got back from a tour in Bahrain and now wish I recruited a playing group.

Hats off.

WOW E that shotgun is way better than my flamer shotguns.
I like your converted starken and creed.
I like the free hand on the vendettas.

Hi LiveByThePowerFist and orky_bitz
Welcome to Dakka
I can't wait to see your stuff.

E the vendettas look great. I can see your pictures from my work station. could see what difference between you and diesel are? keep up the work.

"E" I know it's been said before but very nice free hand and also conversions. I look forward to seeing the terrain.
The batrep I'm also looking forward to.

Thanks for everything you guys are doing

This thread is awesome.

Like your paint job diesel. Really like E.'s conversions and the battle-reports are nice too.

Eyclonus wrote:This thread is awesome.

Like your paint job diesel. Really like E.'s conversions and the battle-reports are nice too.

QFT This is good stuff.

ok i managed to pain a few guys last night as well as assemble a complete custom zapp gun from a Tao gunship turret and some thin cardboard, ill post pics when i get it all painted up. just a heads up E showed me alot of customzation tricks but i am nowhere as good as him

Great thread. It is really nice seeing you guys enjoying yourselves over there. However, when you go back home, you cant use 40k stories in the VFW... 'we lost a dozen men to metal aliens that came out of nowhere'...

Keep it up, looking forward to seeing those Tyranids!

Hey guys. Sorry it took so long to post this, because my internet service went crazy last night up until this afternoon.

Well, I played the XO and can't exactly say I won, though that's what we thought for a good half hour after the game (and the XO wasn't a happy camper). What ended up being the point of confusion was that he had reduced me to exactly %25 Necrons on the board, and he thought I was supposed to have LESS than %25 to get phased-out. I didn't pay attention, didn't realize I had been reduced that low, and the game continued into turn 7 when I had finished as the only one with a uncontested point.

We did play on a new battlefield. The pictures I have didn't do justice to it, but E has a lot of pictures of his terrain work that he's likely to post later.

By the way, is there a way to upload pics on the forum and have comment inbetween them? My photobucket account is eating through it's bandwidth limit pretty fast.


Here we are at the start of the game. Something I probably should have done differently is keep my Nightbringer close to the troops for when the inevitable Terminator Deep Strike comes. And he had a troop squad in the land raider, and I had my Flayed Ones in reserve. We played Seize Ground with the objectives being the Necron Summoning Core, the Hellhound body, the bridge, the totem in the central jungle area, and the black spray paint cap (which will later become a necron power generator. )



Turn 1. XO Goes first. He launches heavy weapons from his dreadnaught and troops squad in the rear near his Hellhound objective. With the abilities of his Land Raider, one of his lascannons shot at my squad of destroyers and failed to wound, and a missle from his scout squad failed to hit.

My destroyers close on the scout squad on the hill on the other side of the river, and inflict 4 unsaved wounds, decimating his scout squad. My 'lith's Particle Whip and Nightbringer's Lightning Arc takes out half of his vanguard assault marines, and my heavy destroyer damages his land raider's left lascannon as it faces.



Turn 2. The XO sucsessfully deep strikes his termie squad, and close in the distance with his landraider, dismounting troops. He fires all of his high strength weapon attacks sporadically, not doing much good. The dismounted squad and terminators shoot at the squad to the left of my monolith.

Failed roll to bring in reserves. My heavy destroyer shoots the land raider with a penetrating his and rolls a 6 for the damage chart, but nothing is hurt in the ensuing explosion. My Nightbringer closes some distance and immobilizes the dreadnought with it's lightning arc. I dropped most of the dismounted marine squad with a volley from my warrior squad to the left of the monolith, and my destroyers fire at the termie squad, all saved. It's at this point I realize I am about to lose one of my troops squads. My nightbringer is still out of range of his terminators.



Turn 3. He drops a destroyer and a frag missle from his rear squad drops two of my warriors next to my summoning core. His vanguard assault marines take out all but one wraith in my wraith squad with power weapons, and his terminators with combination storm bolter and power fist take down all but one of the warriors in the left squad, leaving my necron lord to rez orb them (lucky..ish). One of his weapons immobilizes my 'lith.

I forgot to roll for reserves, and forgot that if I use my 'lith's summon ability, it automatically pulls from reserves before it draws another out. My bad, but we roll with it. After making WBB rolls on the left squad and then summoning them to the lith they're allready right next to, only 2 out of the squad of 14 don't come back. They fire a volley and put one wound on his chaplain. The scarabs assault the remainder of his foward troop squad, and drop all of them. The nightbringer fired another lightning arc at the dreadnought and misses. The tomb spyder assaults the terminator squad and dies futily trying to delay or at least hurt one. The remaining wraith inclicts no wounds, and dies.



Turn 4. The XO closes with his vanguard marines with the squad guarding the summoning core, and he closes his terminators on the squad right in front of the monolith. His krak missle from the rear squad inflicts 1 wound on the nightbringer. His terminators and chaplain assault and again all but 1 warrior goes down, and the squad with my N.Lord fails their morale check. I reminded him I can still make WBB rolls for models left behind while retreating (as explained by other posters here) but he was livid. He believed me, but thought it was pretty cheap. Maybe he's right.

On my turn I make miserable WBB rolls and only 2 of the squad that went down comes back. I'm not sure if I can use my 'lith's summoning ability to teleport guys who are retreating, so instead I use the 'lith's ability to bring out the Flayed Ones instead of risking failing the save. I close my scarabs and destroyers with the rear squad, trying to deny him at least the one point he has or perhaps go for a wipe-out win. I placed one of my destroyers in dangerous terrain and failed the roll. I didn't think about it at the time, but if/when it didn't make it's WBB roll, that would have been the game-ender. The retreating N.Lord and it's couple of warriors shoot at the termie squad with no inflicted wounds. The nightbringer closes with the vanguard assault marines attacking my rear troop squad and kills his leader (who is using the BA Sanguinor rule set). Flayed ones close in and take out two other vanguard assault marines, leaving one model left. It makes it's morale check.



Turn 5. Without much else to move or do, the XO closes his termie squad on the non-retreating warrior squad, shoots with storm bolters at what he can, and shoots at the scarabs (that I foolishly didn't turbo-boost for the cover save) with his rear troops squad. He assaults my flayed ones with his terminators and their retaliatory attack does little good. Only on the pile-in does my nightbringer get to go toe-to-toe.

Many of the flayed ones don't make their WBB rolls so I summon them to the lith. The scarabs move within assault range of the marines. My Destroyer didn't make his WBB roll for dangerous terrain loss. The remaining destroyer shoots at the troop squad and all wounds are saved. My Heavy Destroyer hits the dreadnaught again and destroys it's lascannon. The nightbringer assaults, takes a couple in the terminator squad. Scarabs assault the regular marines and only remove one of his models, but it's buying my destroyers time to close in and contest the only point he's got.



Turn 6. His terminators are forced to fight, but in the end, lose all but two models and fail their morale check, and get caught by a sweeping advance. The dreadnought can do nothing, and the other marines are locked in combat. Blows are exchanged, and my scarabs do no damage.

My retreating squad falls off the board. My heavy destroyer hits the dreadnought and makes it shaken. The assault between the scarabs and troops still leaves me at losses, but it ties them up, which is what I really need.



Turn 7. He wipes out my squad of scarabs, but can do nothing else.

I place my Destroyer on the other side of his Hellhound objective, and contest that point.

And that's the game. By all accounts, I should have phased out by turn 6, but we didn't really know about phase-out that well. For the longest time we thought I had truely won (even though it was definitely a moral victory for me), but I recalled the phase-out rules in an attempt to soothe his raging fury at his horrendous dice rolls, and then remembered that the codex may have specified phase-out at 25% or less, not just ONLY less than 25%.

We decided to call it a tactical draw, since we both were too slowed to know I had lost turns ago. He had me at exactly just enough models for phase-out for two turns, and I forgot that if I used my 'lith's summon ability, it has to first pull out squads in reserve. Oh well.

Mail convoy arrived today, and with it LT Krick's minis showed up today, as well as XO's predator, vindicator, assault termies, tactical squad, and another scout squad (though he claims that they are now worthless against my army). Kehrer got some forge-world power-suits today, too.

You guys can thank E for setting up that jungle map. He bought a green fleece blanket and put it over cardboard hills. In the central jungle area he made a totem-faced statue that looks pretty cool, and it was a fun map to play on. The only problem I had with it was the blanket caused a lot of wobbly-model syndrome, and a BUNCH of cocked dice. I was getting aggrivated that the most innocuous looking spot on the board still produced cocked dice on slight folds in the blanket, and was having to re-roll "leaners" almost every roll. I suggested rolling in a box but I guess the XO didn't go for it.

Anyway, there's your bat-report from yesterday. The Nightbringer definitely wrecked shop and ended the game with only two wounds. If you guys need me to start drawing arrows and symbols on the pictures to illustrate the movement and attacking, let me know. I don't do it for time's sake, but considering how this Durkistani internet connection is dead half the time, it's not like you guys don't expect delays from us every once in a while.

Also, please let me know what you think about how the battle was played, and what you might have done differently.

Diesel: You can upload your photos directly to Dakka's photo gallery and it has no bandwidth limit

Just a quick thing about the terminators getting caught in a sweeping advance. Marines have "And They Shall Know No Fear" which makes it so they can't be destroyed by sweeping advances.

does anybody know about "bodyguard" units for ork HQ such as Ghazhkhull thraka?

Those planes you all painted are beautiful. Excellent detail work. I'm truly amazed.

nobs/large mob of boys?

This thread is great. I have been reading it for the past few days, but could not coment because my acount was skrewed up. E your Imperial Guard are amazing and you are great at converting miniatures. Your battle reports are great so keep it up.

its great to hear that you guys out there are using your spare time wisely (or not, depending on which way you see it).
im hoping to join the forces in few years, RAF REG, and it would be pretty cool if my unit do a bit of 40k. and hey, in kandahar its fairly quiet anyway.
and in the raf reg (as all those in the army and Royal Marines know) they do feth all! but you have to admit 4 days of uneventful patrolling ending with 4 days of pizza hut and subway is pretty cool (as one ex marine said to one of my friends about the Raf reg: "stag on: shake the fence, stag off: drink some tea"
but seriously its great you guys are having fun out there. just don't let 40k consume you so much that when you are engaging the enemy with your .50 cal that you start rolling dice on the humvees floor going: "comon 4 to hit, 4 to hit" and deliberately miss just because one dice had a 3 and the other had a 1

I bet they'd go over the LOS rules more than dice rolls. LoL

sorry about blurry images my camera isnt the best on the fob

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my kustom shoota-skorcha kombi weapon


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IG head impaled on warboss power claw


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Tao turret <zapp gun> as stated before

This thread is absolutly amazing, just finished going through it all! I must say... Well done to all of you in both the war effort and in your gaming! Do not give it up whatever ya all do! The Gaming that is!

I look forward to seeing more!

My 'lith should be done in a day or two. I'll post pics then.

But it's late and I don't have much time to chat. So I'll see you guys tomorrow. Hopefully the others will have enough to keep you satisfied until then.

What`s up everyone! Thanks for the compliments on the IG, I look forward to other opinions both good and bad.It helps me create...lol So thank you.I look forward to sharing more with you.Honestly about 75% of my army is customized in one way or another.The way I see if your gonna put this much effort in to Warhammer 40k,make your army your own.Customize as much as possible it makes a great scene on the battlefield.Plus making your own vehicles and other pieces can save you money.Anyways I just finished playing a game against Spc.Kehrer.IG vs. Tau.It was a great game,ended in turn 3 I believe.But I have pics and I have to disect the game.I will have a battle report posted within the next 24 hours.To hear the outcome you`ll just have to stay tuned.E from the bunker,signing out.
Imperious Dominatus....

Orky_Bitz
I like the warboss, but i dont like the zzap gun, it dosn't look orky enough, i would surggest adding some gubbinz. because at the momment it dosn't look orky atm.
apart from that keep up the good work.

diesel7270, nice batrep.

E_ninja13, thats some nice terrain

keep up the good work everybody

orky_bitz wrote:
sorry about blurry images my camera isnt the best on the fob

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Tao turret <zapp gun> as stated before

Great job on the ork. I like the zzapp gun and the caps for wheels. you might want to add some grotts or other things to make it more orky. keep up the good job and keep safe. Brothers in arms.

Hey guys. I'm having a problem with decals on my 'lith. I glossed over them while they were still a little moist, and it seemed there were no air bubbles in them. But when I went back in to check on it this morning, it looked like there were large patches on both the door crest and the one corner I glossed over, and really all of the decals I didn't gloss over, that there were sections where the decal was detatched from the model, giving them a patchy look. I guess I'm comitted with the ones I've already glossed over with... but how would I stop that from happening with all of the others?

lol I have that same problem with my Necron decals. So far, I've had no luck getting them to turn out any better.

thanks for the comments on the warboss, he was ,my first customized piece and also my first attempt at painting, and i do agree with you all on the zapp gun, i think on my next order i will have to add the orky bitz kit to further modify it along with the deff dread and killa kans.




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the battle between Tao and IG last night was memorable, but ill let "E" post the BDA


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A little about me,

I started wargaming back in the states because of "E" one day after work he needed a ride and I wasn't doing anything so we took a little trip out to the local Hobby shop where he started showing me these game pieces and telling me about the his army, so i decided to give it a try and purchased the Assault on Black Reach starter kit that came with orks and space marines. The it was off to the XO's place who, at the time, was still our PL. I sold the SM pieces to XO for 40 dollars(quite a bargain) and E helped me assemble and showed me a few customization and painting tricks in the week before deployment. my first game was played in Iraq against the IG. OMG it took forever because "E" and I were reading the rules as we went and trying to figure the whole thing out. The IG surrenderred after his entire army fired and did not kill a single ork and a grenade from one of his soldiers got drawn backwards by the scatter die and ended up killing the model that fired it. I wish I had taken pictures.

Nothing much happened today. I've got two pictures of my *finished*, for better or worse, Monolith.

There's a lot I like about it and a lot I wish I had done better. Foremost was the odd spots in the decals, and the brush-lines in the gloss varnish. But anyway, the pictures are below.

Today was a pretty sparse day. It was mostly me and LT Krick (the tank platoon commander) and he put together is khorne CSM battleforce pack. Everyone else was either watching a movie, at the gym, or taking a break from WH40K, since we've been doing it every day for a week now. I myself have spent over 5 hours a day for the past couple of days just finishing my monolith.

Let me know what you guys think, and what I could have done better. I need to know how I can make sure I don't make the same mistakes again!

EDIT: Uhh... why do these downsized pics below show up gray? Or is it just gray for me?

Its not you, they do show up grey here, but clicking on em shows em real nice! An excellent looking monolith!
Keep up the great job, and keep us posted!

Damn, that really is a nice looking monolith.

Man, this thread is really making me want to finish painting. Ugh.

that is an awesome monolith

Thats a great monolith, I don't get why you think it looks bad.

Great job on the Monolith

Beautiful monolith you have there. I have to agree with the General and wonder why you think it looks so bad...

Sweet 'lith. Well done!

Need a new BATREP. I want to see "E's" guard versus the XO! hehe.

burb1996 wrote:Beautiful monolith you have there. I have to agree with the General and wonder why you think it looks so bad...

QFT
I don't understand why you think it looks bad. I rekon it looks great!

great looking monolith. keep up the good work.

Excellent Monolith
Looking forward to the batrep E

Great stuff.
You guys make cool stuff with limited resorces.

Great job guys this is what hobby is all about :')

can I mail you my necrons to paint them? LoL

OK fellas IG versus Tau!

Scout phase and turn one was sweet..I sent a storm trooper squad forward on the far left side,Spc.Kehrer sent a devilfish with a squad of pathfinders to scout in the very middle of the board,They passed a difficult terrain test ,and dismounted their troops.I formed a firing line in the middle of my side of the board with a heavy weapons squad on each flank. Directly behind them I had my Manticore and Deathstrike missle launcher. Far left I had my Valkyrie and Vendetta loaded with storm troopers.Far right I had my PLT HQ,my company command was in the center with veteran squads on each side.Every verteran squad I ugraded them with carapace armor(+4sv) 1 plasma gun,1Plasma pistol for sgt,1 grenade launcher and 1 sniper rifle per squad.so my squad`s firepower was pretty good.
TAU TURN 1:
Kehrer`s leader I forgot his name moved forward and waxed my scout stormtrooper squad,they had no hope.Then he attemped tank shock on my company command,the hq squad saved vs. moral and they side step the tank. Commisar Yarrick failed the moral test and he fell back.Kehrer had a squad of 3 crisis suit supported by tau infantry,they fired and killed my heavy weapons squad on my left flank and killed a few guardsmen from squad 1(left). In the far right corner far away from everything his long range crisis suits open fire on my Manticore and destroy it.His pathfinders in the middle of the board open up and kill a couple more verterans from squad one
IMPERIAL GUARD TURN 1:
My Vandetta gun ship fires on his leader`s crisis suit and do to the strength on my weapon vs. his toughness,puts the instant death rule into play.His leader goes down in a hail of lascannon fire.I dismount stormtroopers from my valkyrie,they are assualt storm troopers,I can only hit the battlesuits with a grenade launcher and plamsma gun,they hit and wound destroyind both shield drones 25% of the force.They fail a morale check and fall back.My Valkyrie fires and puts heavy casualties on the infantry squad next to the battlesuits.Multi-rocketpods are deadly against infantry.Commisar Yarrick passes his next moral check and moves towrd the devilfish to attack and fails,Col.Straken fails his hit on it also,but HQ squad hit successfully with krak grenades and shake the crew.Squad2 and my PLT HQ fire towrd the 1 o`clock position on his farseer squad and inflict some casualties.

Oh yeah I advanced squad 2 forward six inches,uphill.
TAU TURN 2:
THE squad of 3 crisis suits open up on squad 1 and leave the with only 3 veterans.His kootox and 2 kootox riders I think they are called,are out of range in the back left corner and cant fire .His infantry in the middle, kill one or two guardsmen.His devilfish attemps to tankshock squad 2,they pass the test and side step outta the way.They immediatly take fire from the farseers squad on the right side of the board and are pinned on the hill.His long range suits hit my deathstrike missle,destroying the heavy flamer and delaying the count. One thing i left out from turn one ,he had sniper dones firing in my squad 2 to also.forgive me there was so many individual little battles.And again in turn two the sniper drones fire on squad 2,getting a few more kills.

IMPERIAL GUARD TURN 2:
I move Yarrick closer to the battle suits with hopes to power claw them.I load my stormtroopers back into aircraft in case I need to assualt later.Squad 2 passes their next moral check and move up the hill..they fire and get a few pathfinders.I fire with my valkyrie at his kootox rider squad with multi-rocket pods but miss with both but the valkyrie hits with a multilaser,killing one piece forcing a moral check..the kootox riders fail and start to fall back.My vandetta fires on the 3 battlesuits killing 2 and my leftovers from squad 1 take out the last suit.my heavy weapons squad and Platoon HQ fire on the farseer and his infantry and finish them off..so far with loosing guardsmen Col.straken keeps the guardsmen from failing moral checks.

Wow guys, simply a fantastic thread. I'm really looking forward to seeing more of your stuff and hearing more about your games. Definitely a subscriber to this thread!

Turn 3 Kehrer is not happy...

hey everyone. been actually having to work recently! i don't know about the rage diesel is talking about in our match....well yeah i was pretty mad. oh well. we learn a little more each time we play. it takes me forever to paint my models so i have a few here and there painted but nothing really to show except an assault marine or two. slow and steady though so i can move to painting my terminators soon thanks again for all the support out there! it means a lot!

xo

TAU TURN 3:

The devilfish contiues to try tankshock and moves towrds my heavy weapons teams,the pass their check and sidestep the tank.His last two regular infantry fall back behind the dense foliage.His long range suits fire on my deathstike and miss,His pathfinders in the middle fire and do minimal damage on any guards men,his kootox riders fail a check and are still retreating.His sniper drones and infantry on the right side of the hill fire on my squad 2 and kill all but 2 of them.His 2 infantry on the left side of the hill fire on commisar yarrick and take away his last wounds and I lay the piece on his side.

IMPERIAL GUARD TURN 3:

I roll for Commisar Yarrick`s bloody but defiant special rule.Success! He staggers back to his feet bloody but defiant....lol I push the last of my command squad and two veteran squads uphill towards the enemy.I fire my valkyrie on his fleeing kootox rider squad,rockets end their exsistence.All my squads in the middle,finish most of the resistance. My Platoon HQ kill the sniper drones.My heavy weapons teams fire on the devilfish hit and destroy it.and for my final attack....

BELOW TAU INFANTRY SIGHT IN ON COMMISSAR YARRICK, AND MY VALKYRIE "DEVILBIRD," SIGHTS IN ON FLEEING KOOTOX RIDERS!

STILL IMPERIAL GUARD TURN 3:
The last thing he has on the table is his long range crisis suits, and all I have left to fire is my deathstrike missle...I roll successfully.The deathdtrike missle launches hits, and destroys the shield drones and a battle suit!The reamining battlesuit fails a morale check and falls back 8 inches back off the table.GAME OVER..


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I learned alot from this game about operating my IG.Concentrated fire works great.Veteran squads are pretty handy when upgraded properly.My grenade launchers did alot of devestation.But I give Kehrer mucho props he came in on that first turn and had me shook,I thought I was gonna be wiped out.l learned that valkyries and vendettas have alot of fire power to support infantry.It was a great time.My first IG victory!I hope you all liked the batrep,we`ll keep it comin if y`all stay tuned."E" from the Bunker signing out!

Imperious Dominatus

Fascinating thread about a 40k gaming group at the front!

First ideas about terrain:
1.) I like GW's 40k terrain like all City of Death buildings, the Chaos hill, the generic hills, the wood with destroyed Rhino and even the wood.
2.) Hotz Mats http://www.hotzmats.com/ makes fine felt covers for the table, including green field mosaic http://www.hotzmats.com/mat_1-euro_field.html and desert http://www.hotzmats.com/mat_1-wild_west.html . I ordered them without grid of course. Gives instant atmosphere.
3.) Best trees are by Schleich ( http://www.amazon.de/b/ref=amb_link_73967665_4/280-1692595-2873765?ie=UTF8&node=116287031&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=browse&pf_rd_r=0K7E3X3WMSEPDAEPR8V3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=209098991&pf_rd_i=116282031 ) esp the Baobab http://cgi.ebay.com/AFRICAN-BAOBAB-TREE-Plant-Life-SCHLEICH-30655-/350319451356?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5190aa9cdc (blocks LOS!) and the Acacia http://cgi.ebay.com/UMBRELLA-ACACIA-TREE-Plant-Life-SCHLEICH-30654-/360254581046?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53e0d8a936 (both 13 inches high!) very characterful and robust.
4.) Here a German terrain website: http://www.ziterdes.de/ziterdes/en/index.php?we_variant=en
5.) Here a very good US terrain website http://armorcast.com/store/ including refinery and alien plants
6.) Also have a look at Pegasus terrain, quite cheap and fits GW stuff: http://www.thewarstore.com/PegasusHobbiesTrees.html

So much for now.

Great battle report E, but..

E_ninja13 wrote: Commisar Yarrick failed the moral test and he fell back.

Commisar Yarrick has Inspirational Hero, which gives him and any unit he is with Fearless. This means they they do not ever have to take moral tests or pinning tests.

General Seric wrote:Great battle report E, but..

E_ninja13 wrote: Commisar Yarrick failed the moral test and he fell back.

Commisar Yarrick has Inspirational Hero, which gives him and any unit he is with Fearless. This means they they do not ever have to take moral tests or pinning tests.

yeah we realized that a lil to late and just rolled with it..
im still semi-new to this..

IG Victory! Well done General "E". Nice batrep.

Nice victory, E! Kicked his ass by turn 3, impressive!

Very nice, congratulations.

However, I think you could better use your points by dropping the deathstrike for something else, it really is simply terrible.

I suggest, for cheapness, a leman russ w/ HB sponsons and hull HB, quite a nasty one there.

Or, for a bit more expensive points wise.

An Executioner w/ Hull heavy flamer, and plasma cannon sponsons.

OR

Another manticore >.> (and, you could still use your deathstrike model for this)

E_ninja13 wrote:Turn 3 Kehrer is not happy...

Is this why there is a 9mm on the table?

IG victory.
congrats E

Karon wrote:Very nice, congratulations.

However, I think you could better use your points by dropping the deathstrike for something else, it really is simply terrible.

I suggest, for cheapness, a leman russ w/ HB sponsons and hull HB, quite a nasty one there.

Or, for a bit more expensive points wise.

An Executioner w/ Hull heavy flamer, and plasma cannon sponsons.

OR

Another manticore >.> (and, you could still use your deathstrike model for this)

I agree,all I have other then my manticore and deathstrike is hellhounds,but they have`nt done me justice yet.I have lemass russ tanks on the way, just waiting for the mail..I`m still in the process of trying to figure out what I want in my army.The deathsrike did win me the game.It was worth trying once ..Thanks for the advice Ill let you know how it goes when this tanker get tanks..lol


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E_ninja13 wrote:Turn 3 Kehrer is not happy...

Is this why there is a 9mm on the table?

LOL nice! nah truth be told thats a tankers primary weapon..all us tankers are issued 9 mils..gotta defend our iron horse! If they try to jump on our tanks we peel their cap back man,have`em pushin up daisies..lol

ugh, I would not want to be stuck fighting dudes with only an M9. Can't wait till we make the transition to the HK45. .45ACP FTW!

Corvus wrote:ugh, I would not want to be stuck fighting dudes with only an M9. Can't wait till we make the transition to the HK45. .45ACP FTW!

we still have m4s though..

With nothing left in my stuff to paint except an egyptian-themed N.Lord without a res orb, and a single immortal, I'm kind of running dry on projects. And now that my nemesis, the XO, is preparing for a PT test by going and exercising every day during our normal game time, it's going to make scheduling games a lot more difficult. But We shall see! One of these days I'm actually going to crush him. I got close last time.

A note: Erickson's latest victory is the first time ANYONE from our group has won from a army wipeout.

Kehrer keeps getting his arse handed to him because he doesn't do two essiential things: intercept oncoming troops against his long-range units, and move agressively against priority targets. He has very little power to bring to bear besides one or two broadsides, and only a pair of krootox gunners. His strategy is simply to stand still and keep shooting with a bunch of fire warriors and pathfinders. Though his powersuits do assault some, he loads his units up with tons of wargear instead of putting a sizable amount of models on the board. I keep telling him he needs to start tarpitting and routing, but I think he just likes the Tau in style more than he cares about winning. It took forever just to convince him to get ANYTHING Kroot on the board. But, hey, he's having fun, and he's a good sport. Maybe if he gets his hammerhead gunship put together, he'll be doing better.

I'm not sure where we're going to go with the campaign, so I'm probably going to set something up, small-scale, between two or three players. Enough to last 5-7 games before it's over. The ambition to make some epic, grandiose campaign is there, but I think we continually bite off more than we can chew. I've been a self-taught student of game theory for the past 12 years, and I can tell the difference between what sounds good, and what *plays* good.

We'll see. I like Erickson's jungle map, and I'll talk to the XO and Erickson about setting up a campaign: Imperial vs. Necrons. Or something to that effect.

I may post more later tonight if anything happens. I'll see you guys around.

Oh, and Corvus, if you ask me, they never should have gotten rid of the 1911.


I bought the egyptian-looking N.Lord way back when I first started, before I knew the rules, or about WYSIWYG. So I'm looking at the parts that came with this model, and I realize that there really isn't a way I could mod this guy to have a rez orb without looking slowed. His free hand is flat-palmed and facing down. And I'm not going to field a N.Lord without a rez orb. Also, the staff he has in his hand looks nothing like a Staff of Light OR a Warscythe. So... what am I supposed to do with this guy?!

E_ninja13 wrote:

Corvus wrote:ugh, I would not want to be stuck fighting dudes with only an M9. Can't wait till we make the transition to the HK45. .45ACP FTW!

we still have m4s though..

Man I still haven't used an M4 yet. All they ever give to us zoomies are 16A2s (unless we are AFSOC or Security Forces).

And Diesel, I agree wholeheartedly with you. Apparently the 101st and the Marines do too, because I hear most of those guys prefer to issue 1911s as sidearms.

diesel7270 wrote:I bought the egyptian-looking N.Lord way back when I first started, before I knew the rules, or about WYSIWYG. So I'm looking at the parts that came with this model, and I realize that there really isn't a way I could mod this guy to have a rez orb without looking slowed. His free hand is flat-palmed and facing down. And I'm not going to field a N.Lord without a rez orb. Also, the staff he has in his hand looks nothing like a Staff of Light OR a Warscythe. So... what am I supposed to do with this guy?!

Since you're just playing with friends I don't think WYSIWYG really matters, does it? I get your dilemna but I don't think you'll be hitting up any tournaments for a while and by then you'll probably have more guys. If you haven't already, invest in the actual lord w/warscythe model.

Re: milky varnish: I don't know if you're still having this problem, but it's caused by the varnish drying at an uneven rate: probably the surface is either drying out too quickly before the lower layers, or vice versa. The usual suspects are temperature (too hot or cold), humidity / moisture, or simply putting on the varnish too thickly, or putting a second layer on too soon after the first.

Suggestions: Use thin coats (some varnishes you can actually water down a bit to get a thinner consistency if needed) try to varnish at "room temperature" (might be a bit hard given where you're at), and never varnish if it's raining. Also make sure the model is bone dry before varnishing: don't do it too soon after painting, and let the first coat dry fully before applying a second. If it does dry milky, I've heard you can sometimes buff it off with a chamois or cloth: alternatively, a second coat can sometimes smooth out the imperfections if they're on the surface.

Re: greenstuff as adhesive: Greenstuff, as you already know, comes in two parts: the base and the curing agent (I think yellow is base, blue is agent, I'm not certain on that). Anyway, if you add more blue, it dries harder and faster, if you add more yellow, it dries slower and softer. You want it slower and softer, because that also makes it stickier: try using 2x yellow to 1x blue. I've also had some decent luck using the so-called "greenstuff sandwich" - apply super glue to both pieces, sandwich greenstuff between them, trim and smooth off the excess. The greenstuff fills the gap, the super glue gives a strong hold. However, you have to make sure the greenstuff is fully cured before putting any strain on the joint, or you wind up with two ragged bits of half-cured greenstuff superglued to your model parts: a real mess.

Best of luck: I had two cousins go through Iraq with the Marines, and one friend who went there as an Air Force MP. Stay safe, game well, and come home soon!

EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT!

Chaos Space marines have arrived in the bunker!Another army set on domination of the FOB!My tank commander(TC) Lt.Krick got his army the other day.We just finished a small mock battle/tutorial,to get him started so he can get a feel for the rules.So stay tuned.I`m sure Chaos will make an attempt to conquer the bunker!Not on the Imperium`s watch..lol

On a more serious note that brings the total to six different armies soon to be seven.Specialist Quinn ordered his eldar also.The carnage will be incredible when and if we can get a campaign going.But seven different armies!This is gettin outta control,that means more pics,more BATREPs and more good times.Im excited.well "E" signing out from the bunker...

Imperious Dominatus

Awesome. Purge the Xenos!

Hopefully Diesel will have more luck with his Necrons fighting Chaos than I did. I play a lot against a SSgt who runs a fairly cheesy Night Lords list (Daemon Prince, Defiler, Oblits, Rhino Rush) and he tables me every single time.

I'm halfway through a battle with Barnett's orcs, but he's got so many models to roll for, he's new at the rules (so a lot of references) and he's got so much crazy wargear to look up in his antiquated codex that what would have been a 4 hour game at the most turned into a 6 hour game we've only half finished. I took pictures and notes, and tomorrow we are supposed to finish. My particle whip decimates his boyz, but he's got two looted tanks borrowed from E so he's got some punch this time, and it's immobilized my 'lith.

Corvus, I'm getting better with every match and hopefully with my Nightbringer and incoming Pariahs I'll have what I need to dominate tougher models. Plus Lt. Krick is new to the rules so I'll at least have a couple of chances to catch him when he's inexperienced.

See you guys tomorrow!

EDIT: There seem to be errors in posting. I've posted this message but it doesn't show up, even though it confirms I've posted. If it ends up giving me multiple posts, I apologize and will fix it when it shows up on my browser.

You don't need to fix it diesel, if there's no real timeframe difference between the posts it fixes automatically.

Just watch out for winged Daemon Princes. The SSgt I played basically hopped it from cover to cover till it reached assault range to keep it safe from volley fire (which can and will kill it)
The Defiler is a big easy target and can be taken out by Heavy Destroyers (assuming they don't make constant crap rolls like mine) and the Obliterators can be killed by volley fire, force them to make enough saves and they will lose at least a few. Rhino Rush can be handled by keeping your flayed ones/Pariahs close enough to counter any charges.
Good luck!

I assume if it's winged that it counts as jump infantry or something of that sort? Therefore has to take dangerous terrain tests when it enters/leaves cover. I don't know what kinda save it has but that seems like a dangerous prospect to me.

yeah he's jump infantry, but by "hopping from cover to cover" I mean hopping behind buildings and whatnot, so no dangerous tests, he's just staying out of my LOS

Hey guys. So I was just cruising Dakka to look up some opinions on a rule discrepincy I was having with my buddy. We were playing a game via vassal and I noticed this topic. We are also currently also on FOB Echo Iraq. We were wondering who you guys were and where you play. We would like to come by sometime and say hello. We didn't bring any models with us like you guys, but we play using vassal all the time. We are in C108 near the battalion TOC if you guys ever want to come by and say hello.

Its cool to know there are some other war gamers on the FOB. Have a good one guys.

How random. Haha.

Also, all these guys I believe bought their models while on FOB Echo.

wow you guys are on echo too..crazy...private message we will link up..

I was at FOB Echo in 2009 painting my Tau in preparation for 'ard boyz. I was in the medevac over by the TMC. I'm at Camp Adder now.

This has been a great thread to follow.

WHAT A TWEEST!

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Yeah, I suggest for right now, if you have any more games w/o your tanks in the mail, to use the deathstrike in for another manticore. I can 100% guarantee you that it will do WAAAAAY better. Just say the one missle seperates into several munitions each round or something.

Do not underestimate the normal leman russ, however, pumping out 9 HB shots AND a s8 ap3 large blast is killer for hordes and light vehicles as well. Though HB's are admittedly terrible for AV, they can do the job in a pinch to take down a rhino/trukk.

As well, the Russecutioner is a VERY powerful, but VERY expensive tank.

I run mine w/ Plasma sponsons for 5 plasma cannon shots, and a Hull Heavy Flamer, that way your opponent wont be able to pull some wound allocation shenanigans with the lesser ap of the HB that you normally get.

Hope I helped ^.^

very cool stuff

All looking very good and promising. Begs the question though Diesel, what's next on the shopping list?

*crosses fingers for another lith*

Here's today's update!

Barnett (Orks, orky-bitz) will probably elaborate on this further, but he is getting transferred to another FOB in the near future, and so his participation has probably ended. He has placed his Ork army up for sale amongst us. Perhaps some of the guys from the other group near the Battalion TOC would like to buy them?

We never finished our game, by the way. He had to work late, and I think he's given up on the prospect of furthering the hobby in light of recent events.

I played the XO again today, and this time he brought in his newly acquired assault terminators with lightning claws and thunder hammers. With a chaplain attatched, they re-rolled all misses and most of them re-rolled wounds, all power weapons against my warriors. I took pictures and notes, but the defeat was so crushing I have little motivation to post it. Not to mention that by turn 3, all aspect of strategy on my part disintegrated, so it's not like there was much to review for strategy purposes. My monolith exploded by turn 3 and my nighbringer died by turn 4, a victim of piecemeal shots from sniper rifles and lascannons. All of my particle whip-shots scattered off target, and all of my N.Bringer's lightning arcs missed or failed to penetrate armor. With his drop-pods, I was surrounded on all fronts and had no heavy-hitters left to drop his two squads of terminators. The game ended on turn 5 with my barely away from Necron phase-out. Sheesh. What a bummer. I could say bad luck, as I was a good dice roll away from taking out his land raider and scout squad. But ultimately I can't control the initiative of the battle when he's got two drop-podding terminator squads.

Just Dave wrote:
All looking very good and promising. Begs the question though Diesel, what's next on the shopping list?

With my pariahs still on their way, I may wait a bit to buy some more, and see where pariahs take me, strategy-wise. I'm pretty much set to defeat any army other than SM (or CSM?). Tools and terrain are becoming more of a priority.

I do intend to eventually get another 'lith. I don't know when... it's a big project. I would ideally field two of them, but it's a tough balance between points on my heavy-hitters and troops. I DO intend to take everyone's advice and try for some immortals. That will likely be my next purchase.

K-Hop wrote:

We were wondering who you guys were and where you play.

In the Charlie section of CHUs, near Alpha Company Toc. I'll PM you as well, but if you're interested in meeting up, you can contact me via ICOM, Hardrock Channel, Callsign Hardrock 1. Or you can just come to the Aco TOC and ask for Hardrock 1 or SGT McDowell.

So, basically, I *need* a way to throughly ignore his terminators' armor saves if I'm going to beat him. The only things that have power weapons are N.Lords, C'tan, Pariahs and Tomb Spyders. Tomb Spyders are almost worthless IMO, and I can't assault a terminator squad with my warriors just so I can get one attatched model's power weapon in there. I may just be truely screwed.

I'll see you guys later. Me and the XO have decided on a micro-campaign amongst the two of us at least, and I fully expect for him to win it. But for storyline's sake, I don't mind playing the villain who is defeated by the good guy. I just hope it's not as embarassing so often.

Pariahs have killed me in the past but the Terminators are one unit, you might as well just stay out of their way until you have enough room to kill them with massed firepower.

diesel,

Playing any of the 5th edition codexes is going to be a lot more challenging. You picked a very difficult army to manage right now. Melta and transport are king in 5th edition.

Your army looks fantastic however!

He's right, a Destroyer Lord, Pariahs and more careful use of the Nightbringer should help, but Necrons are rightfully rated as the hardest army to play. Don't blame yourself!

All you guys are the most awesome soldiers I have ever heard about. Way to suppress the stereotype of the stupid soldier!

micahaphone wrote:

Way to suppress the stereotype of the stupid soldier!

Heh heh. Believe me, as nerds among soldiers, we're the minority. If I had a nickel for every ignorant, swaggering, confrontational meathead I've had to associate with in this line of work, I'd put them all in a glass beer boot and shatter it over someone's head.

Just Dave wrote:

...a Destroyer Lord, Pariahs and more careful use of the Nightbringer should help...

I've shied away from Destroyer Lords because they just seem like another slot to eat up only one of the two available HQs on the FOC, when I could have one attached to move with the troops for their WBB rolls and have a C'tan along with them. Wouldn't a Destroyer Lord on it's own get chewed through as a lone, priority target early in the game? The N.Lord's stats aren't that amazing, with the exception of it's solo WBB roll.

But correct me if I'm wrong.

Byte wrote:

Playing any of the 5th edition codexes is going to be a lot more challenging.

I had heard that GW was developing a new Necron Codex. Any idea about the estimated release date, and what updates it may have?

On to today's update:

Mail came in today, and nearly everyone who plays got packages. To include another soldier in the tank platoon who doesn't even play... he ordered modeling supplies from GW for a model Abrams tank he is going to build.

I got my order in, too! 10 Pariahs (which I've already started to assemble), two more Flayed Ones to max out the squad I have, a bunch of Vallejo paints and varnishes, some new GW brand brushes (to include small drybrush and stipling brush), another block of black Chessex dice, and 5 craters (enough for one battlefield, but with multiple games going, we're still going to have to use homebrewed stuff). I also got a box of regular Necron Warriors to have two large squads or three small ones for Seize Ground missions. They come with Scarabs, so that will help if I want to max out my swarm squad.

Erickson will probably go into detail, but he got a huge box of soldiers and armor. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I know some Leman Russ' were in there.

Kehrer got several new Crisis Suits.

Quinn's Eldar have yet to arrive, and it will still take a while for Phillips' Tyranids to arrive.

With everybody's new models, the night was spent assembling new models. Lt. Krick is working on his Defiler now, and the work that the XO has done on his chaplain so far looks amazing! Those of us who have been working on this stuff for the past couple of months are definitely showing marked improvements on painting skill, but I guess that's what happens when you spend 4-6 hours a day, nearly every day for two months, working on the hobby.

I will say this: Where Flayed Ones are hard to paint, Pariahs are just as hard to assemble. The Pariahs come with a very frail pewter piece, and it, with the others, often come rather warped. In fact, one I got was missing the fitting end of a piece and now I may have to custom make one from scrap pewter or Green Stuff. The pieces have lots of very narrow spacing with molding lines in them that I can't get to with a file or a hobby knife. I may have to use one of Doc's scalpels, as they have a smaller blade.

I had considered a strategy of using several squads of Heavy Destroyers, using their AP to punch through Terminator Armor. Unfortunately, I enjoy assembling and painting Destroyers the least.

I don't know what on earth I'm going to do with my Tomb Spyder. It's cannon fodder, it's Necron-sustaining ability is somewhat laughable, and for all of it's "monstrous creature" power, it's stats are low. Maybe if it had more than two wounds, but jeez. I haven't hit anything with it in any game.

I do have a question for you guys. Is there a telltale mark that indicates what edition a codex or rulebook is? I have yet to find one I only know my rulebook is 5th edition because I just bought it two months ago, but I know some Codexes (or Codices) have yet to be updated. And I suspect Barnett's Ork Codex may be an older edition than what is currently available.

That's all for today, guys! I'll post pics of a Pariah as soon as one is done.

Hahahaha. Information on exact release dates, years in advance?

You're better off asking for...well, something ridiculously unlikely to happen.

Welcome to the GW Hobby! Where release dates are as elusive as Bin-Laden.

Yo! Got my reinforcements in today,the Imperial manufacturing facilities are working fast to finish my Lemass Russ trio...They are assembled and waiting to go through the paint line..All my infantry are put together..Waiting to be painted also.All that is left is to slap together this last valkyrie and paint it and thats a wrap my army is complete for a while.This brings my total count to:
4 Leadership figures
3 Ogryn
15 Stormtroopers
6 Heavy weapons teams
4 Infantry squads
1 Platoon command squad
1 Company command squad
1 Tech priest
2 space marine servitors
3 Lemann russ demolisher/executioners/punishers
1 Manticore missle launcher
1 Hellhound
3 Valkyrie/Vandetta gunships
1 Baneblade
I`ll be ready to play apocolypse rules soon..lol
With the Lemann russ I found a way to make detachable guntubes.So at any time I can play demolisher/executioners/punishers.How awsome it is...bwahahahaha! Anyways as soon as they are painted I`ll post some pics.Thank for the feedback y`all have been giving us,it make the game that much more fun."E" signing out from the bunker...
Imperious Dominatus

Diesel: the advantage of Destroyer Lords is that they move like jetbikes and can turbo-boost, which allows them to blitz across the board and into CQB with high-value enemy targets. Combined with a Warscythe, they can lay waste to MEQ squads. A regular Lord on foot is usually too slow to be of much use offensively

E_ninja13 wrote:Yo! Got my reinforcements in today,the Imperial manufacturing facilities are working fast to finish my Lemass Russ trio...They are assembled and waiting to go through the paint line..All my infantry are put together..Waiting to be painted also.All that is left is to slap together this last valkyrie and paint it and thats a wrap my army is complete for a while.This brings my total count to:
3 Lemann russ demolisher/executioners/punishers
1 Hellhound
3I`ll be ready to play apocolypse rules soon..lol
With the Lemann russ I found a way to make detachable guntubes.So at any time I can play demolisher/executioners/punishers.How awsome it is...bwahahahaha! Anyways as soon as they are painted I`ll post some pics.Thank for the feedback y`all have been giving us,it make the game that much more fun."E" signing out from the bunker...
Imperious Dominatus

If you do not glue the barrel of the lemann russ demolisher models you can do all three, same with the hellhound with some magnets.

Byte wrote:diesel,

Playing any of the 5th edition codexes is going to be a lot more challenging. You picked a very difficult army to manage right now. Melta and transport are king in 5th edition.

Your army looks fantastic however!

Melta means nothing against a lith.


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Corvus wrote:Diesel: the advantage of Destroyer Lords is that they move like jetbikes and can turbo-boost, which allows them to blitz across the board and into CQB with high-value enemy targets. Combined with a Warscythe, they can lay waste to MEQ squads. A regular Lord on foot is usually too slow to be of much use offensively

You can always port the lord with a monolith if you don't take the veil as well. Works well for me usually.

roger that mongo only thing is with the hellhounds i already used the guntubes for different mods..oh well..the melta gun is good enough for now..

First off....I just want to say a big Thank you to all you guys serving currently. You're doing a job I've been interested in for a long time but could never do because I'm far too unfit. I have the utmost respect for all you guys keeping this and other countries safe. It sounds mushy and a little out of charector for me I know, but...thanks.

Secondly, I'm loving all the work in this thread so far. The Guard are currently doing it for me the most, but everything else is uber cool. I have to say I was a little dissapointed that the 'Crons didn't have camo paint, but you can't have it all I guess!


Again, thanks. And damn you, becuase you're out in hostile territory where an attack could happen anytime and you can STILL paint better than me.

I had a lot of trouble getting these pics to work. EDIT: Ignore the odd-looking thumbnails, because if you click them you see a proper image. But, here we go.

Today we had those other soldiers from across the FOB come an visit us. Unfortunately, they're not staying on the FOB long, and won't be investing in an army because they'll hardly have enough time to take advantage of it.

Not much was done today. I assembled and cleaned up a bit more of my Pariahs, but me and the XO struck up a campaign agreement and launched the beginning of it today.

We basically planned it out as a story for his and my armies. Maybe E will join in later, but we realized that we would have to start simple if we were going to get anything off the ground, so we decided on this: Give the good guys a mission, set the circumstances in which they enter the problem, and play several games as we work out the unfolding story along the way. No set number of matches, no branching trees. He will tell me how his space marines will react given outcomes, locations, and forces, and I will set terrain and objectives for him, as the protagonist, to accomplish. I take all notes and write down all background story in my Moleskine notebook (Bondsman number 7?), and take pictures.

So, here we go with a background and batrep for the first conflict of our campaign:
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The Brynar System. An unassuming star with unassuming planets, on the eastern fringe, on the outskirts of eastern edge of the Tau Empire. The only world with a acceptable climate and atmosphere is Brynar II. Scanned and slated for investigation, the first colonization ships arrived 4117961.M41, with a compliment of Adeptus Mechanicus personnel to investigate unconfirmed xenos ruins. A Ghost world, with seismic analysis reports indicating heavy adamantium deposits. Emergency reports from the colony requesting military assistance against an unknown assailant began 4402961.M41 and ended a few weeks afterward. The panicked reports suggest xenos agression. The local Imperial Guard detachment to that settlement was unheard from through the entire event. The colony is presumed destroyed. At that time, all available Imperial Forces in the area were engages with Tau border disputes and Ork infestations.

The Andreas Chapter of Space Marines, an offshoot of the Iron Legion that were separated a due to a refusal to submit to the Iron Legion's allegiance with Chaos, have been spending that past several Millenia in the eastern fringe, far away from the suspicious eyes of the massed Imperium, who question their loyalty to the Emporer. Fighting for redemption for their once-brothers' heresy, they have been trying to purge guilt through restitution for ages. As their campaign against pockets of chaos and foul xenos would take them near the Brynar system a few years after the incident, and no Imperial effort was made to investigate the attack in Brynar II, the Andreas Chapter scheduled a reconnaissance of the world as they would pass by.

On 3108978.M41, the Andreas Legion made contact with the Brynar system and made planetfall on the colony shortly after. Their mission: - Search & rescue survivors, if any. - Reclaim Mechanicus Cult technology. - Secure xenos tech for destruction or shipment to the nearest Mechanicum Cult. - Investigate and destroy xenos agressors.

Multiple scouting parties were dispatched to the surface. Some to dig sites, some to roadways, some to suspected xenos ruins. The largest was sent to the colonial city of Manifest, once populated with three to four thousand Imperial Citizens. A humble, but the only, settlement. No signs of bodies or agressors other than mass destruction of buildings and land formations. And so, the recon team begins it's sweep down the main road of the city...
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Game mode: Ambush.
Points: 750.
Special Rule: Any infantry count as scoring units.

EDIT: Remember! These thumbnails look wierd, but if you click them you get a good image.



Without sophisticated ambush markers, dice and baseplates represent ambush signals. I play the Brynar Tomb Legion of Necrons. This is the starting board setup. He has a squad of assault terminators in reserve as a "quick reaction force" element in case things go sour for the team at Manifest.



Turn 1.
The phantom signals are closing in, scattered, and immediately my squad of Flayed Ones burst out of the ground and attack a squad of his jump infantry. 1 of his squad is downed in the first turn. The other squads stop in their tracks, trying to make sense of the ghost signals and fleeting shadows. His snipers shoot, but fail to roll their Night Fighting distance. The melee with the flayed ones continues as his troops take down a Flayed One.



Turn 2.

As the shadows close in, the flayed ones continue their assault. The marines in contact fall back voluntarily, but a signal that turned out to be a swarm of scarabs assaults them as they retreat. His scouts call in the QRF, but their deployment is delayed. Scouts fire rifles and rockets at the stranded group of flayed ones, and take down one. The vangaurd assault marines (white) shoot at a phantom signal and nothing happens. The ensuing melee with the scarabs and jump infantry is a stalemate.



Turn 3.
The flayed ones take cover behind a building against sniper shots and scarabs continue the assault, but take damage without inflicting any. The drop pod of assault terminators (water bottle) lands, and opens fire in a signal that turns out to be a squad of necron warriors. Meanwhile the dispersed squads shoot at two more ghost signals.



Turn 4
Eposed by storm-bolter shots from the drop-pod in the previou round, a squad of 14 necrons open fire with two volleys on the assault terminator squad and drop four of them. Other squads continue their advance as the flayed ones and scarabs try to take care of things on their ends. His vanguard marines shot bolt-pistols at another signal, which turned out to be wraiths. I rolled poorly, and two wraiths were dropped.



Turn 5. Rolled to be ending turn.

The terminators close for assault, as do the vanguard assault marines, and although casualties are inflicted on both sides, enough units are near the end of the gauntlet to make their way out of the ambush, and go to regroup. The recon party from the Andreas Legion breaks contact and leaves the area, hearing distress calls from nearly every other recon team on the surface of Brynar II... robotic xenos. Necrons.

Nice flavorful batrep. I look forward to seeing where the campaign goes from here.

There seems to be a message enscribed on main road way, but in all seriousness nice story to go with the campaign really enjoyable to read.

Great last battle report, hope it was as much fun to play as reading. It would be great if both players had a final comment about the game, just like in a battle report in white dwarf magazine. Either a highlight or something remerable about the game.

Hey "hstnin,"
Thats a good idea.I`ll reccomend that to the guys.That would put a lil more flavor into the batreps!Thanks!

Still having a horrendous time working with the frail pieces that come with my Pariahs, the tiny and uneven joints to glue together, and the realization that I should have kept the arms seperated by the packs they came with.

For anyone else who buys Pariahs: the parts are not interchangeable. Assemble all of the parts in one pack, don't mix them together thinking they're all functionally the same, as you would with many other models. I got into that habit with my Flayed Ones, and now I've learned my lesson.

That being said, for as hard as they are to assemble, they should be pretty easy to paint. I'm looking forward to it.

diesel7270 wrote:
I do have a question for you guys. Is there a telltale mark that indicates what edition a codex or rulebook is? I have yet to find one I only know my rulebook is 5th edition because I just bought it two months ago, but I know some Codexes (or Codices) have yet to be updated. And I suspect Barnett's Ork Codex may be an older edition than what is currently available.

There's not an indicator in the codexes themselves, as the idea is that the codex can be (mostly) valid through several editions. But to tell if a codex is the most recent one, check two places - one, GW itself:

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp

Look at the army sections and see the pic of the current codex for the army in question.

Two, wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_%28Warhammer_40,000%29

That'll give you release dates for the most recent versions, so you can see how relatively old a book is.

Also, Lexicanum has a nice list of which codexes are what edition as well as lists of each edition of any given codex.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codex

Hey folk sorry we have been busy..Duty calls..lol But the latest from the bunker is just assembly.No games lately.I have already been customizing somethings.I`ll continue showing some custom pieces tomorrow.Sgt Mc dowell has been painting his pariahs,XO is still painting,well all off his stuff.(SLOW POKE)Yes sir XO i said it..lol But he is taking his time and doing a good job he even has some customized things for y`all.Lt. Krick is coming along pretty quick with his chaos space marines.And more good news.Rumor from my battle buddy is that he is planning on buying grey knights soon,so hopefully he joins us.Kehrer has been talk`in doo - doo for the last week.If you don`t remember he plays Tau.I don`t get it. A few more battle suits and some more sniper drones and he thinks he can disrespect my Emperor and my Imperium..This kid has lost his mind..lol Ordinatus,Honorum Glorium.hahaha!
Anyways Does anyone know a website that I can buy just a few plasma gun bits? I`ve been looking but all I want are the plasma guns .Everywhere I have looked I have to buy whole squad Or a kits.That`s booty son.I have some custom pieces I can use though.Thanks for being patient everyone we will be back up and post`in away real soon.I want to give a shoutout to Miguelsan from Japan he is donating a cadian command squad to the cause!Thanks again.and deisel was say`in someone donated some paints and brushes and such.Thank you all soo much for the support.Good to know people got our backs.So like said I`ll get a mods article up soon.E from the bunker signing out..

Imperious Dominatus

Not sure if these would work for IG, but...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1080005&prodId=prod1400024

5 metal plasma guns.

Thanks for your service!

Said numerous times already but thank you for your service.

When the unit I was in was over there we had about 4 of us that were doing the game. I did orks and one guy did necrons, the other 2 did nids. Dont know why they liked the bugs so much, but they did seem to love them. didnt have anything as set up as yall have, but it was still fun to play on the floor with dice and such. I dont think i ever won a single game, but had a blast with the guys none the less.

I hope you all are happy. You've got me working on my "Order of the Redeeming Blade".

Lousy motivational gits.

E_ninja13 wrote:Anyways Does anyone know a website that I can buy just a few plasma gun bits? I`ve been looking but all I want are the plasma guns .Everywhere I have looked I have to buy whole squad Or a kits.That`s booty son.I have some custom pieces I can use though.

If you have bolters and plasma pistols sitting around in someone's bit box you should be able to crank out some plasmaguns...

http://paintpotprocrastinator.blogspot.com/2009/06/bitzbox-plasma-gun-conversion.html

Buddy of mind proxy'd necron guns for plasma guns. Looked pretty cool.

E_ninja13 wrote:Kehrer has been talk`in doo - doo for the last week.If you don`t remember he plays Tau.I don`t get it. A few more battle suits and some more sniper drones and he thinks he can disrespect my Emperor and my Imperium..This kid has lost his mind..lol Ordinatus,Honorum Glorium.hahaha!

This line made my laugh my ass off

Seriously keep up the awesome work out there, I'm loving this thread so much If any of you guys are ever around Tinker Air Force Base, give me a shout out and we'll get an Army vs Air Force game going

use the SM plasma guns that you can buy as bitz from GW. cut off the SM hand. then get a guard hand with lasgun and cut off the lasgun and lasgun stock, leaving the trigger hand and just glue the plasma gun on. I haven't done it my self but i have done it with SM melta guns. it's very easy to do.

E_ninja13 wrote:Hey folk sorry we have been busy..Duty calls..lol But the latest from the bunker is just assembly.No games lately.I have already been customizing somethings.I`ll continue showing some custom pieces tomorrow.Sgt Mc dowell has been painting his pariahs,XO is still painting,well all off his stuff.(SLOW POKE)Yes sir XO i said it..lol But he is taking his time and doing a good job he even has some customized things for y`all.Lt. Krick is coming along pretty quick with his chaos space marines.And more good news.Rumor from my battle buddy is that he is planning on buying grey knights soon,so hopefully he joins us.Kehrer has been talk`in doo - doo for the last week.If you don`t remember he plays Tau.I don`t get it. A few more battle suits and some more sniper drones and he thinks he can disrespect my Emperor and my Imperium..This kid has lost his mind..lol Ordinatus,Honorum Glorium.hahaha!
Anyways Does anyone know a website that I can buy just a few plasma gun bits? I`ve been looking but all I want are the plasma guns .Everywhere I have looked I have to buy whole squad Or a kits.That`s booty son.I have some custom pieces I can use though.Thanks for being patient everyone we will be back up and post`in away real soon.I want to give a shoutout to Miguelsan from Japan he is donating a cadian command squad to the cause!Thanks again.and deisel was say`in someone donated some paints and brushes and such.Thank you all soo much for the support.Good to know people got our backs.So like said I`ll get a mods article up soon.E from the bunker signing out..

Imperious Dominatus

I see that our unit is not the only one to pick on our officers

If I woulda known I'd get to play 40k during the down time I might have enlisted

And I think its funny how you guys are spreading the addiction! I did the same thing with alot of my freinds several years ago.

Keep up the good work over there guys, and when you guys get back stateside let us know so the dakkites that are local to where you're stationed can get some games in with you ^_^

Ok, guys. A pretty big update. A Batrep on a match E and I threw together today, and a look at one of my Pariahs, things I messed up and thoughts on it.

Let's start with my Pariah.

Out of the squad of 10 I bought, I decided to do as I normally do, and finish the first before I assembly line the others, to get a good idea of what I want these guys to look like in the end. Unfortunately, I did not take the time I should have and rushed few some things, and thinking myself complete, glossed it. It's not that I can't fix some of the problems, but starting over from scratch is impossible now. I can paint over gloss and then revarnish - I wouldn't attempt that more than once, though. I plan to do that on the parts that are supposed to be Mithril Silver, but look like a patchy mixture of Mithril Silver and Gunmetal. I wanted flawless Silver texture on these guys like I did with my Necron Lord. My Lord turned out GREAT. I wish it was as easy with these dudes. Next time, I'm not putting gunmetal on anything other than the abdomen. With this one, I was painting over gunmetal on nearly everything.



As you can see, the legs and arms have a marbled, rough looking texture. That was not what I was going for. I will simply have to paint over the gloss and try one... more... time... and hope I don't screw it up.

The handles came out pretty good except for a few areas where my drybrushing went a little too deep. In my haste I had too much paint and too much pressure. The head and eyes came out just about perfect, which I am glad. And though you can't see it well from this angle, the shoulderpads are an egyptian blue, and I really like the way it looks, even if it isn't quite Necron-ish. Of course, the base needs cleaning up and sanding, ect. And this being my first one, the others will come together more easily, as they tend to do. It just pains me that I usually end up with a squad of units that have one that looks relatively jacked up where I tried to get used to painting that particular model. I will submit a pic of this one when I clear my head, and get it cleaned up. If it turns out that I just can't make it work, I'll either have to settle, or soak the thing in acetone for a day.


On to the battle:



At 1560 points, we played for Moral Victory (Anillation's victory conditions are just too unbalanced for me). I had my standard N.Lord with rez orb and viel of darkness, two squads of 14 warriors, a squad of 3 destroyers, scarabs with disruption fields, and my 'lith and Nightbringer. I rolled to go first, and this is how the board was set up.



Turn 1.
All Necron units advance, with the Nightbringer stunning the tank on the left, and the monolith stunning the tank on the right. My destroyers shoot at the Vendettas hoping for a lucky glancing hit, but
don't get one. E brings all of his troops to the barricades for cover, takes out my destroyers in one volley from the vendettas, and drops five of my troops with the un-stunned tank with the gatling gun.



Turn 2.
All but one of my warriors ressurect, and all units advance again. The Nightbringer fires at the left tank and misses, and the left squad of Necron Warriors take out half of the enemy droops on his right squad. My right squad is getting tied up on the barricade for difficult terrain. The Monolith is rolling all hits on scatter dice, and destroys the tank in the middle. My scarabs assault his left tank and stun it again. None of E's units move, and between his command orders that make for multiple shots (with Col. Strickand) and plasma guns, his troops on the right chew up my Warriors on the right. His valkyries (err, vendettas, sorry) shoot at the lith, but fail to penetrate armor, and his gatling gun's poor amount of wounds are saved.



Turn 3.

I advance my Nightbringer to the foes in front of it, and try to get my scarabs and warriors to his vendettas. The left squad of warriors shoot at the left tank, and shake it. Due to my being an idiot, I for some reason thought that it meant that he couldn't move but could shoot, and told E that. Which cost me the game, as you'll see below. The assault with my Nightbringer on his left squad take out three models, and all of the ones in assault contact are too weak to hurt it. On E's turn, he moves his vendettas in closer, fires at my right squad, and as I stupidly separated this squad from my Lord, half of them were vaporized. The gatling gun and the squad in front of the squad of Warriors on the left totally unload on them, leaving nothing but the Necron Lord standing, and with one wound. The Nightbringer kills Col. Strickand.

Turn 4.

Thanks to several blunders on my part, I reach Necron phase-out and E wins.


Summary:

Knowing that E was going to go heavy on the armor, and disillusioned with past poor performance with wraiths and flayed ones, I decided to spend the bulk of my spare points on the 'lith and the Nightbringer, as well as disruptions fields on the scarabs, hoping to make short work of his tanks. For the most part, it worked. I knew his infantry couldn't stand up to virtually anything I could throw at him, so I put them on the backburner until they became a problem.

I tend to make the same mistakes in 40K that I do in chess. I make moves that seem to directly achieve my goals, without thinking of how the player will counteract. I didn't think at all when I separated my two warrior squads about the possibility of Necron phase-out, even when staring down the barrel of a gatling gun. Which, incidentally, should have been disabled, but again I was hasty and didn't think it through. Looks like I still have some work to do on rules memorization. Third dumb move I made was that I should have turbo-boosted my scarabs towards the valkyrie instead of a regular move. Due to being a swarm, turbo-boosting gives them a 2+ cover save, and I should be taking advantage of that as often as possible. Perhaps I was hesitant to leave the Nightbringer there alone, but it could have easily taken care of it itself. Rather than focusing on the items that would have caused massed fire, such as the gatling gun and squads full of plasma weapons, I went for his armor-killers, desperate to keep my 'lith from getting shot at. Like an idiot.

That being said, until he rolled to drop that one squad in one shooting phase, the match was going my way, handily. We both thought it was a sure win for me. E was rolling fairly poorly and was losing half as many guys to his plasma weapons Getting Hot as he was hitting me with them.

It's hard to pull any lesson out of this other than to pay more attention. But I've beaten that dead horse enough. It's always a tough call with me. Putting more troops on the field is starting to sound more and more like a good idea, but without heavy-hitters like the 'lith and Nightbringer, I would have an outrageously hard time taking down any enemy armor. Heavy destroyers are some of the first units to go down, so I have no real interest in expanding on them. My Pariahs are simply too expensive and are designed only as an anti-Terminator squad, so it looks like I'm going to have to spend less time fielding destroyers and more time fielding more Warriors, and start loading up on Immortals.

Take another lith, drop the nightbringer (he's really only helpful at 2000+ pts because of his cost) and field wraiths or some heavy d's. Just a suggestion though. But at 1500 points, I'd suggest two liths.

yeah the thing with the Monolith is that you WANT the enemy to shoot at it. That's what its designed to do: scare the crap out of the enemy so he directs most of his heavy hitters at it. The monolith is supposed to be able to shrug off most hits. That leaves your troops open to cause damage without fear of being blown away by heavy weapons.

I would also agree with Kevin, if you have the money, invest in another Monolith. There are some really evil tricks you can pull with two of them, and NO one likes the idea of TWO monoliths deep striking in on top of their gunline.

Yeah... I just (*whine*) don't want to go through making another one.

I'm kinda not surprized you shelved your Necrons, Corvus. Seeing as how we're both having troubles. ...but out here I've already devoted a great deal of time and money. I can't afford to not keep trying and find a good mix.

I think I really need to just focus on getting more troops on the ground. Immortals, and Warriors. Mostly Immortals. Unfortunately, it's hard to *see* exactly how things will turn out, because I have to invest $150+ to get units I need, paint them, and then assemble them before I figure out that they're not really working out for me.

Diesel - Nice to see that the gaming continues, and it seems like all off you are having fun. Myself, I havent played very much 40k to speak of, but I do think that your troop squads are too small. Guass rifles work wonders against anything in range as long as you have a large amount of dices.

Your troops would also have more survivability in larger numbers, thanks to WWBB rules. I played Tao against Necrons last time and I found that even being super mobile and shooty doesent do much if you pritty much need to wipe a squad of troops in 1 turn. That amount of focus fire keeps heat of evrything else.

Now your looking into more expencive, fewer units, meaning less targets, easier to FO your army.

But just like with orks or tyranids, sometimes less is not just more, but stronger.

Im not gonna do the math, becuse I have no idea how, but you should realy proxy up a few alternatives before rushing into a buy. Play your self or borrow an army and setup 1 unit vs. 1 unit situations and try the diffrence. (1 unit meaning a whole group)

And also Id like you to put more terrain on the board.
It looks like a shooting range sometimes, Im shure you could benefit from both more cover and less LOS. ^_^

*Edited for lack of spelling skills

Summary:

Well this game was one of many test phases.I going to learn and adapt to whatever army it is that I play.Fielding different gear for every battle.Victory by technicality is`nt what I had in mind.I learned a few things.One: know your rules,losing or winning by overlooking something it`s not as satisfying.Luckily I don`t care.I call it a W! Two: My tanks can be takin down pretty quickly by the right vehicles/charactors. Three:Even one tank has the ability to change a fight. And Four:With enough vehicles The Enemy cannot kill Them all.Either way it was fun.I wanna thank diesel for being honest with the rules.I hope y`all enjoyed the batrep.E signing out from the bunker.


Imperius Dominatus

Its been a while since my last post, I appologize. Well my last bit was the unfinished match with diesel and i got extremely lucky against his monolith with a 6&6 role for effect with my shokk attack gun, imobilized. but that didnt stop it from tearing through my 30 boy mob with ghazgkhull thrakka attached with his particle whip. and i thought they were safely engaged in close combat with a squad of warriors and necron lord, little did i know he could just port out the whole squad. and with my lootas in position to fire on his nightbringer we called it a night. Since then i found out i will be leaving the FOB and our rag-tag group of wargamers, i put my army up for sale. An offer from XO has pretty much ended my ambition to wage waaagh! on the FOB. I think once i get back i will invest in a different army after i do more research on all the armies that are available and thier abilities.

hstnin wrote:

And also Id like you to put more terrain on the board.
It looks like a shooting range sometimes, Im shure you could benefit from both more cover and less LOS. ^_^

Honestly, I believe that is one of the biggest reasons he has been losing as much as he has been. In an open field, necrons are just target practice begging to be phased out.

diesel7270 wrote:

I think I really need to just focus on getting more troops on the ground. Immortals, and Warriors. Mostly Immortals. Unfortunately, it's hard to *see* exactly how things will turn out, because I have to invest $150+ to get units I need, paint them, and then assemble them before I figure out that they're not really working out for me.

Try proxying Warriors/Immortals. Borrow some Space Marines or guardsmen for a match and play them as if they were the units you want to experiment with. As long as you're clear about it, it should make for a fair game as well as helping you figure out what you should invest in.

Ok. Well, I just got done playing a long, arduous 2000 point match. Possibly not the most fairly balanced, because it was me and Lt. Krick each with 1000 pts. vs. Erickson and a very armor-heavy setup.

The battle was beyond hectic, a lot of stuff was going on and so many people were around... I just couldn't see it feasible to take notes to comment on, so pictures would have been next to pointless.

Surprisingly, we tied for true Annihilation rules. I didn't really have enough points to field a lith, and Lt. Krick knew very little about the game and didn't know how to set up his squads to be anti-armor. Not to mention, we sorely underestimated E's devastator cannons.

With all of the armor on the board, by the time we were done, the battlefield was littered with wreckage and craters. It was pretty epic, but long and tedious.

Mad Rabbit wrote:

Try proxying Warriors/Immortals.

That is exactly what I plan on doing. I'm probably going to forget about the N.Bringer, and the Pariahs, unless I'm fighting the XO's terminator/armor heavy setup. In time, I'm going to try for an army loaded with Warriors, Immortals, and include a Destroyer Lord with my other N.Lord. I've just got guys to assemble, and I haven't ordered immortals yet. I'm content to continue with what I've got so far until then. I mean, even if I lose, I still have fun.

We may have *another* player who plans on picking up Grey Knights. We'll see if he comes through.

Other than that, the Pariahs are coming along.

I highly suspect that once I get a lot more ground troops on the table, I'll probably fare better. And I do have a problem with terrain in that, almost anything, including ruins, gives some LOS. There is almost no situation in which my large squads of troops are completely out of LOS of virtually everything. Which brings me to two rules questions.

1. I'm on the other side of difficult terrain, by an inch or so, and he can see more than half of my dudes' torsos though they are all obscured by foliage or somesuch. Do they get a cover save? Or do I have to be IN that difficult terrain of rubble or foliage, as the only case in which I would get a cover save?

2. I assault a land raider. Since you do not get locked in combat with vehicles like that, would my assaulting units continue to get the extra attack every additional time they fought in close combat with it? Because at that point, they would still be within 1". ...Or with vehicles like that, does the 1" rule even apply?

EDIT: One more question. 3. If an independent character, like a N.Lord or Commissar Yarrick, goes down on a turn, but gets a WBB roll (I don't know if it's actually called that for Yarrick), does he count as a lost unit if the game ends before he gets a WBB roll?

See you guys!

Nice, another one, playing a completly diffrent army, but Im suprised noone went for Blood angels yet ^^

diesel7270 wrote:

1. I'm on the other side of difficult terrain, by an inch or so, and he can see more than half of my dudes' torsos though they are all obscured by foliage or somesuch. Do they get a cover save? Or do I have to be IN that difficult terrain of rubble or foliage, as the only case in which I would get a cover save?

2. I assault a land raider. Since you do not get locked in combat with vehicles like that, would my assaulting units continue to get the extra attack every additional time they fought in close combat with it? Because at that point, they would still be within 1". ...Or with vehicles like that, does the 1" rule even apply?

EDIT: One more question. 3. If an independent character, like a N.Lord or Commissar Yarrick, goes down on a turn, but gets a WBB roll (I don't know if it's actually called that for Yarrick), does he count as a lost unit if the game ends before he gets a WBB roll?

1. If more then half is in cover, they all get cover saves. But if he can see more then half, they get none. But you dont need to be "in" it, just obscured by it. A good example is a forrest, you get cover save both behind it and inside it. *Edited after checking rule book again, I made a misstake in how you calculate if the majority of his models can see the majority of yours when calculating if you get cover, partial cover or no cover. Page23 in rulebook.

2. If your talking about the assault +1 attack, you only get it the first time.

3. Dont realy know, havent had this problem, does he get the roll on the end of the last turn, or the start of the one after it ended?

To evryone playing or just there to watch, keep having fun and its always great inspiration to read about people playing even when in an absurd situation like your all in.

diesel7270 wrote:

1. I'm on the other side of difficult terrain, by an inch or so, and he can see more than half of my dudes' torsos though they are all obscured by foliage or somesuch. Do they get a cover save? Or do I have to be IN that difficult terrain of rubble or foliage, as the only case in which I would get a cover save?

2. I assault a land raider. Since you do not get locked in combat with vehicles like that, would my assaulting units continue to get the extra attack every additional time they fought in close combat with it? Because at that point, they would still be within 1". ...Or with vehicles like that, does the 1" rule even apply?

EDIT: One more question. 3. If an independent character, like a N.Lord or Commissar Yarrick, goes down on a turn, but gets a WBB roll (I don't know if it's actually called that for Yarrick), does he count as a lost unit if the game ends before he gets a WBB roll?

See you guys!

I know the guy above me answered but I don't think he is entirely correct, or at least I haven't ever played it by what he said. Anyway, to answer your first one you would get a cover save. It doesn't matter how much of the model is covered, if you're withing 1" of it and it requires you to make a difficult terrain test to get by it, you get a cover save. The type of terrain determines the type of save.

You can always move away from the LR 2" and then shoot and assault again providing you have assault weapons.

Anyone that is down and the game ends before any WBB or equivalent rolls are made are counted as destroyed. This is actually covered in the FAQ on the GW website, just so ya can look it up if need be.

My battle againt the necrons and chaos space marines was epic.It was by far the best time I have had yet.Lots of fun.Demolisher tanks are the way to go.They destroyed a defiler, a bunch of necrons, a nice amount of chaos marines,a rhino and were still in the fight at the end of the game.I lost a vandetta early on but the othe one stayed to play the whole game.I lost all troops my hell hound stayed in the fight also.the manticore did its part hitting necrons for four turn then being destroyed by the demon prince.I love the armored company idea.They messed up and gave a tanker tanks..lol Tankers lead the way HOOAH! But none the less it was a great game,ending in a tie like deisel said.So I held my own against a split army.Normally I would prep by loading my vehicles to fight a certain way for a certain army.I didnt know what to expect .So I mixed it up.But mucho props to those guys they withstood a lot of firepower.if there would have been another turn i more then like would have phased out the necrons.One thing I got to tell y`all.It was great.some choas space marines moved in to position to fire on my tanks.Fired two plasma weapons that blew up killing 2 of the 5 man squad.Failed a morale check and retreated 10 inches.Failed a second morale check and retreated farther,it was pretty funny.aAAAHHH! Our guns blew up ruuunnnn!Good times.So question! If commisar yarrick loses all wounds gets up bloddy but defient then loses his last wound,does he get to try to comeback again?Next game we`ll a batrep up..I still owe y`all some custom piece pics..E signing out from the bunker..

Imperious Dominatus


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Mistress of minis wrote:If I woulda known I'd get to play 40k during the down time I might have enlisted

And I think its funny how you guys are spreading the addiction! I did the same thing with alot of my freinds several years ago.

Keep up the good work over there guys, and when you guys get back stateside let us know so the dakkites that are local to where you're stationed can get some games in with you ^_^

Definatly mistress,If there are any dakkites near Fort Benning GA,let us know we would love to plays some games maybe a campaign when we get back!

Ah Fort Benning. My dad was stationed there for years and my mom still lives out past Camp Darby. If I ever get stationed out at Robbins AFB or Fort Gordon I will have to take a road trip out to Benning to play a few rounds with you guys

I edited n.1, but about n.2 I dont understand how you are gonna back away and then do a proper assault in the same round? I know your not locked in combat with a vechicle, but isent that a illegal/abuse move to move away in the move phase and then change direction and then assault again with your troops?

Im looking at page 63. under "Successive turns", last paragraf also, doesent it say that your in base contact with the vechicle if it survived your assault?

I saw the FAQ, and I agree on n.3

There's nothing stopping you from moving away from a vehicle since you're not locked in combat. I mean, unless someone jumps in here otherwise that's how I've played it. Ya it kinda sucks but the odds are that the person who owns the vehicle will have moved it anyway on their turn provided you didn't immobilize it. So just because the assaulter is in btb with the vehicle, why would they not be able to move away while the vehicle can? Just means it's another rounds of the same unit focusing all of it's firepower on a single vehicle rather than a squad of guys it could probably demolish easier if it's h2h'ing vehicles. *Shrug*

The more I think about spamming troops on the battlefield, the more I like it. In addition, I was thinking that if I have a destroyer lord, perhaps it would be a good idea to, if he had a rez orb, keep him with several squads of destroyers. Since you can go over the squad cap to attach rezzed Necrons (at least i'm pretty sure you can), I don't have to worry when the squad of 3 destroyers gets wiped by multiple lasgun blasts. The disadvantage of all of this is A: I have to tie up points on destroyers themselves, and B: It would make using a Warscythe on a D.Lord a lot more problematic, as I would seperate from the flock of Destroyers.

Where was this when I was deployed... Two deployments never 40k around. Mummadia first tour/Mosul second.

Ok! I just did a match with E and *finally* won one. Though I think it had a lot to do with his experiment of using no vehicles. I didn't either, to be fair, as he had nothing that could punch through a Monolith.

We'll start from the beginning...



This is the beginning lineup, before the game starts. I rolled to go first.



Turn 1.
I advance all units, turbo-boosting my scarabs towards his barricaded squads. I infiltrated my flayed ones as close as I could, and ran everything else up to the flayed ones. Everything is out of range except for my Destroyer, who drops two on his leftmost squad. What few shots he could make at that range, E landed two wounds, both of which were saved.



Turn 2.
I advance all units, running squads to forgo the 24" Rapid Fire. My Destroyer misses all shots. The scarabs close in for an assault with the leftmost squad, and take out most of the squad they encountered. E focuses all of his available firepower to eliminate my only Flayed Ones squad, so they don't get their WBB rolls and are removed from the table. He makes shots from his command squad but they are saved by my regular troops.



Turn 3.
I advance my troops to 12" of the bulk of his forces. The left squad of my Warriors drop one of his veteran squads, and the fire from my right squad drops most of another. The scarabs have lost a few models, but win an assault against the squad they engaged. E's squads of two stormtroopers come out of Deep Strike with the Airborne Assault (or whatever) mission, and both land hits on scatter die. His command and platoon leader squads close the distance with my scarabs to assault. His storm troopers each fire at each of my squads, as they are nearest, and drop two warriors on each one.

Turn 4.
I apparently forgot to take a picture. All WBB rolls are made for my warriors. Each squad of warriors fires at the squads of stormtroopers that just Deep Striked and take both out. My assault drops one model on his platoon command squad. E's heavy weapons squad drops three warriors on the rightmost warrior squad, and the assault with the scarabs takes my scarabs down to just one model left, with one wound.



Turn 5.
I make most WBB rolls. I advance again, shooting witht he right squad at the heavy weapons team in the bunker, and assault with my other squad, taking out all non-independent characters in his platoon command squad. All that are left is his regular leader quad of independent characters, and half of his heavy weapons team. His heavy weapons
E's heavy weapons teams get a few good hits, dropping three on the closest warrior squad. The seperated command/leader squad (detatched from close combat due to losses of regular troops) fires and assaults, taking down a handful of warriors.

Roll a 1 on continuing the game, and the game ends here. I win due to Moral and Tactical Annihilation victory.

Summary: While the single squad of Flayed ones ended up being cannon fodder, every turn bought me time to close distance with his fortified troops. Not to mention, I was tarpitting at least one squad with my scarabs as much as possible. From the looks of it, I probably would have tabled him in turn 6. My only squad losses were the scarabs and flayed ones. I guess E wanted to see how well a handful of beefed up squads handled this 1000 point game, but I suppose without armor, he really didn't fare too well. I don't know IG, and I don't know if there is a way to win with just troops, but he was trying here. As for me, with the eception of my scarabs, nothing on the table was Non-Necron, and I pick scarabs because they are excellent at dropping weak infantry in small squads, as well as his vehicles when I put Disruption fields on them. I kept my squads close together as long as possible, and E probably would have done some more damage, but he was rolling fairly crappy. I probably would avoid plasma weapons as much as possible on troops if I were playing a SM or IG army, just because I don't want to bet against the odds of Gets Hot, but out of the ones that didn't die, his high-strength plasma weapons were what he needed to inflict wounds. They would have tore me up if I didn't have my rez orb in range. All in all, I can at least claim a decisive, sweeping victory. Finally. And I am beginning to see the logic in massed troops for Necrons.



The XO wanted to share his awesome paint job on his... crosix? ...Croxious?

The pariahs are coming along, albeit slowly. Assembly of my spare Necron troops are being done. Though I think I may have been better off just buying a Necron Battleforce to save money, since destroyers are SO expensive if bought individually. Today I ordered a full squad of Immortals, and will have some infantry that don't suck quite so horribly next time around. Unfortunately, the only thing that really saves my Warriors is that they have another squad so near them all the time. If I only field one squad of a single type of Necron, once they're all dropped, they're out.

Another guy from the tank platoon ordered Space Wolves. Crazy. This thing is getting out of hand. Though a few more months here, and it will be time to pack up and get ready to go home. We'll see how it all turns out.

Congrats on the victory man

The Guard do not fare well without their tanks. I played a 200 pt. game frome battle missions with only Elite, Troop, and Fast Attack choises. The best infantry unit I see in the Guard is Guardsman Marbo. Another guard player in my store refers to him as "the 65 pt. middle finger" , and for good cause. He has He's Behind You, which always starts him in reserves and he can come in anywhere 1 in. away from anoter model. He has a Demolition charge he can use when he has first come out, and has 5 close combat attacks with Poisoned (+2). His only weakness is that he is extremely fragile when in the open. When I used him he still managed to kill a Terminator even with my abismal rolls.

E_ninja13 wrote:So question! If commisar yarrick loses all wounds gets up bloddy but defient then loses his last wound,does he get to try to comeback again?

It just says "If Yarrick loses his last Wound, ...", so yes; it means whenever he loses his last Wound, not just the first time he loses his last Wound.