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Post by: MajorTom11
Sick conversion! Both design and execution
Keep it up and finish strong!
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Post by: whalemusic360
Great addition to the head.
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Post by: Yellowbeard
The head looks great, Bio. I really like the dread sarcophagus bit. It really gives you sense of just how big this thing is!
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Post by: Rawson
Biohazard wrote:
I like it! It really resembles a warhound cockpit now! What is your plan for the sarcophagus opening? I'd say some plasticard (or other flatish bit) to stop up the hole and add the magna grapple cyclops eye again!
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Post by: tipios
Nice. The way the head is now, it looks angry
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the comments guys.
@Yellowbeard, he is pretty big. This version has parts from a LR side sponson, land speeder nose, Dread sarcophagus, Rhino Dozer blade, Vindicator side armour, Baal Pred ammo feed, Defiler plates. And that's just the head
@ Rawson, I was planning on adding the single magna grapple eye again.  For the Dread gap I was thinking of adding a grille type bit to resemble a marine Vox. I'll have a play about though.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Glad to see you're "back at work", buddy!
I definitely like where the head is going! I agree that you should definitely stick with the single eye.
Actually thought about your Titan when I was reading the current issue of WD: One of the battle reports has a three-up Bloodletter's head used in some terrain. That thing would look sooo awesome as a Titan head...
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the reply buddy. I'm going to give you all a little teaser now. Don't shoot at me if it sucks.
As he walked along the corridor the sound of his boots ringing out on the latticework beneath his feet his sense of anticipation grew. He knew he approached 'The Pit' The bowels of the Harvester of Sorrow, where the mighty daemon engines were kept, shackled and bound.
As he entered the vast hanger he saw the one he seeked. Among the howling and screaming of the other machines one alone stood out. Whilst the others fought at their shackles this one stood silent and unflinching.
The Champion looked into the grimacing skull visage of his former master. Though it's mask was emotionless he could still feel the barely contained rage emanating from the giant machine. It's power claws detached and hanging motionless at its side on great chains. Too dangerous for the machines to be fully armed while in transit. The 12th had learnt that the hard way.
Skull Champion Krixus turned to the serfs at the control panels in the far corner of the room. His helmet vox adding a grinding metallic edge to his voice as it boomed across the hanger.
'Captain Deimos has requested that this one be re armed and activated by the time we make planet fall. I trust it will be done.'
The serfs immediately dropped what they were working on and set to work on their own specified task to bring the dreadnought back up to operational standard, they knew that to fail meant their skulls would soon join the thousands of others in Lord Deimos' throne room.
As the stimulants and combat drugs were pumped into the Dreadnoughts circulatory system Krixus turned his attention back to the machine. He placed one gauntleted hand on the symbol on the Dreadnoughts shoulder and whispered 'Soon my Brother,soon you will bring the fight to the hated astartes. Our god has willed it and we are his instruments of bloodshed, our weak brethren will quake in fear for they will soon know to face you is to face certain destruction.'
As Krixus turned to walk from the hanger he heard one more voice, among the crazed screams, louder and more brutal than the rest, he heard a mighty feral roar. Ululating and echoing from the cavern like walls.
Krueger the Undying had awoken.
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Post by: Anvildude
Why not weaponize the head? Stick a supa-melta in there or a flamestorm cannon or something. Seems like Chaos would prefer to have as much KILL in their Titans as possible, and leaving a limb out of the fun would just be a shame.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great piece of fluff there, mate! Couldn't keep myself from shivering
Speaking of Deimos and the Dread, though: Those would be two very worthwile projects to complete as well, don't you think?
...
...I know, I'm insatiable
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Post by: Biohazard
The Dread is PIP hence the teaser.  Deimos and his retinue are next in line.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Ah, that was the correct answer
I am really looking forward to seeing those guys. Painted a Lord in Terminator armour myself recently. It's hard work, but it's totally worth it!
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Post by: Biohazard
Lol. Im just wanting to get the models I have built finished before I work on anymore. Im getting a little sick of looking at grey and green plastic sitting on my shelf. I also want to get them done before the release of the 6th boxset. If the models in that are any good I intend on buying a copy. Who knows I may even start playing lol
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Post by: Rawson
Anvildude wrote:Why not weaponize the head? Stick a supa-melta in there or a flamestorm cannon or something. Seems like Chaos would prefer to have as much KILL in their Titans as possible, and leaving a limb out of the fun would just be a shame.
My name is Rawson and I approve this message
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Post by: Biohazard
How about a couple of Reapers either side of the 'mouth'? Ive been wanting to use them for a while since they look so cool. They could be a nice Anti Infantry weapon.
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Post by: Brotheralexos
I really like what you're doing with the Titan, and the rest of the army in general, but I was wondering how the Titan looks with it's arms on? Seeing how they looked before, I'm wondering if they match the body?
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Post by: Eggroll
Titan conversion looks amazing! Love the detail it has in the legs which definitely shows you've put a lot of time and effort in choosing the right parts for building this beast. Really looking forward to seeing it finished up and painted!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
At last! Updates!
All looking pretty good!
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Post by: Tobber1202
I really like this new head, it fits together in a way the others did not
Keep up the good work
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Post by: Commander Cain
Glad I stumbled across this thread! The titan is looking stunning. Time to look through everything else now!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the replies guys. The head is almost at the stage where I can start to GS it, my job is kicking my ass again though as I work in a squad of 6 and 3 are off sick at the moment so the remainder of us are having to cover all the duties. Updates will hopefully be sooner rather than later.
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Post by: tipios
Nice updates Bio
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Post by: KrautScientist
Sorry to hear about the hassle at work, mate! On a more positive note, I am quite looking forward to seeing the most recent incarnation of your Titan's head!
Oh, and I might actually overtake you on the Termie front. Just wait for my next update
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys.
Kraut like I say work is really killing me at the moment with double duties I'm working between 10 and 14hr shifts in a 7 day block. By the time I get my days off I'm exhausted. One saving grace is the overtime pay.  Looking forward to what you've come up with Termi wise mate.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Phew, that sounds terrible  Hope your colleagues get well soon! With that amount of work, it won't be long until the rest of you end up on sick leave as well  Keeping my fingers crossed that things get better soon!
Btw, did you see what I did with the Ogryn you gave me? Might cheer you up...in a twisted, chaos-worshipping way
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Post by: Biohazard
Yeah I saw it buddy, could have sworn I replied to it on here? I dunno, Im like a fart in a trance at the moment  Liking the use of the Tamiya Clear red.
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Post by: Biohazard
Hi guys, minor update mainly cos Im a bit peeved. A friend was round with her kid the other day and he decided he was going to 'play' with the Gorehound while my back was turned. Cue the model being dropped and the head being trampled on ( by me I might add as I went to investigate the noise) Well......frack! Messed about a little tonight and changed the leg plates to something a little more substantial looking and tried my best with the head. The StormTalon and Dread bits that were on there are usless now as they took the brunt of my size 10's. :( Also made a very quick start on a possible weapon. Ill need to order a few more bits but I think it may work. Basically Im gonna mirror what I have already done here with the Landraider engine parts and the Ork gun. Hopefully itll resemble a Flamer/Plasma type weapon  Let me know what you think?
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Post by: Hyenajoe
Ouch! I've always said that a kid's capacity to destroy and crush should place them on top of the war weapon list...
The new legplates are looking very good. Perhaps should you fill the slots with some plasticard, but otherwise they're great!
Biohazard wrote: The StormTalon and Dread bits that were on there are usless now as they took the brunt of my size 10's. :(
Do you have pics of these poor broken bits or did you dump them in an acess of rage? If anything can be done to restore them, I'd be glad to help you (there's not many thing that heat, pliers, plasticard an GS can't cure  )
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Post by: KrautScientist
How awful!
Biohazard wrote:A friend was round with her kid the other day and he decided he was going to 'play' with the Gorehound while my back was turned. Cue the model being dropped and the head being trampled on ( by me I might add as I went to investigate the noise) Well......frack!
Yikes! I physically cringed at that description...
That said, the "improvised" head looks kind of interesting as well!  My only nitpick would be the rather expressionless eyeslit, but apart from that, there's definitely something there!
Hope this ends well, buddy! As a small consolation, I plan on finally getting those Marine bitz out the door and in your direction tomorrow
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys. Hyenajoe, I've managed to somewhat salvage the dread part but the Storm bit was a goner. I'll order another one at some point and try again. The Plates on the shin will be filled in. All the defiler plates and LR plates will be. I think for now though I'm going to put this on the shelf (a high one) for a bit as I'm kinda burned out with it. I'll come back to it in a while and who knows what changes I'll make with fresh eyes. For now I need to start making time for painting. Kraut, I know exactly what you mean about the eyeslit. Like I say I'll come back to it later. Oh and also I meant to say I've sent a few things your way. Nothing like the major bits dump I sent last time but a few things you could possibly use in your Traitor Guard / Inq 28 Automatically Appended Next Post: Knocked up another Skull Champ for the 2nd Squad of Zerkers (yet to be built) And started a really rough Skull Champ for the Teeth of Khorne (Havocs) I have planned. The havocs will have mostly ML and HB's. And the 3 Skull Champs still obvioulsy WIP. I need to GS the 1st Squad Champ and add a couple of Deteails, 2nd squads Champ needs a lot of clean up and the Havoc Champ is very very WIP. Rough Tooth, Needs Khornifying.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:Oh and also I meant to say I've sent a few things your way. Nothing like the major bits dump I sent last time but a few things you could possibly use in your Traitor Guard / Inq 28
Awesome! Thanks, mate!
Those skull champions are coming along nicely! I love the head of the left guy, that archaic Chaos Warrior faceplate works so well with the bunny ears! The Havoc is looking great as well. Seems I will not be able to resist building my own teeth of Khorne much longer...
I hope your painting exploits extend to Krueger the Undying. Simply cannot wait to see that guy finished!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Poor Gorehound...Ouch...
Anyway, good work so far!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy, a quick update before I start painting.
Built another rough Havoc these arent finals just basically a proof of concept.
'Shoot over there!!'
Skull Champ Krixus
'Imma Skull Champion, Imma stand on something and look awesome!'
I should add Krixus will have some skulls in his left hand and his sword will probably be changed for a chainblade.
Krixus and Khorda
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Awesome! Khorne Havocs sound awesome to me.
Also, I had a brainwave, in case for some whacky reason you wanted a Sorcerer Lord: the War Priest of Khorne.
Basically, he doesn't use psychic powers or sorcery, but rather he prays, bellows and screams praise to Khorne, and if he is lucky Khorne answers his prayers in the form of a fireball in the enemy's general direction.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:Skull Champ Krixus
'Imma Skull Champion, Imma stand on something and look awesome!'
And he does
You know what would look awesome in his left hand: The severed Daemonette head from the GK kit!
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Post by: Biohazard
Squigsquasher wrote:Awesome! Khorne Havocs sound awesome to me.
Also, I had a brainwave, in case for some whacky reason you wanted a Sorcerer Lord: the War Priest of Khorne.
A Sorceror Lord!? In Khorne army! Blasphemy!!  Nice name for a Khornate Chaplain though
Krautscientist Im going to be using that bit with one or two more heads attached  Its on the Havoc Champ at the moment. Automatically Appended Next Post: Krueger the Undying, Paint in progress
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Post by: logg_frogg
Absolutely stellar kit bashing in here!
I loooooove the daemon princes and have quite enjoyed the evolution of the titan over the course of the thread!
Cheers!
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Post by: KrautScientist
The big guy is coming along nicely, mate!
Those claws are looking brutal. Looking forward to seeing the finished piece!
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Post by: Yellowbeard
Great work, Bio!
I find it kind of funny that some of the most inspiring blogs I follow are all chaos - you, KrautScientist, tipios, GiraffeX, GuitaRamus.... What is it with you guys?
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Looks great! One thing it might benefit from is some verdigris on the brass to go on the brass.
If the Chaos Codex is any good I might start a CSM force for my second army-Emperor's Children, mind you. So many opportunities for disturbing Noise Marine conversions.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Looking good, buddy! The highlights on the claws could be even bolder, in my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't try painting lightning dancing across the claws, though: The chances of it ending up looking goofy are simply too big. But that's maybe just my cowardice speaking
What are you planning for the panel to the right of his head? Screams for a World Eaters symbol or something like that
Great work so far!
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Post by: Biohazard
Squigsquasher, Thanks man Im not too keen on the while verdigri look as I m pretty sure Id screw it up Id love to have a force from each of the 4 Legions, especially obviously Khorne and my second favourite Nurgle. Im not into fat tentacled Nurgle though. :/ Ill just have to wait and see if the other legions get some new plastics
Krautscientist, Ill give the Claws another pass of highlights soon, Im the same with the hesitation to do the lightning. I cant get a decent picture of Krueger yet though it always seems to bright and washed out. The panel to the right will have a WE symbol in the same style as Wade Pryces as I really like the simple glyph style. Ill wait until Ive practiced that a bit though. :0
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great idea about the symbol! Definitely looking forward to that! Concerning the photos, try taking them in front of a slightly darker background (light grey or light brown instead of white). I noticed that white background tends to badly screw up my photos, so maybe it's the same problem here
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Post by: Biohazard
WIP on the DP axe.
And unfortunately these guys are still on my painting desk.
Hopefully I'll have them finished soon.
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Post by: kizzdougs
Great Work Bio! That DP is looking awesome.
Ps. the claws on the dread turned out really well
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:And unfortunately these guys are still on my painting desk.
 Hopefully I'll have them finished soon.
Don't feel bad about it, mate! I usually find Termies a chore to paint as well
The models are coming along nicely, although you might want to focus on getting the Dread done first: When I managed to get my first Dread completed, that gave me a boost in morale that lasted for a while and carried me through some less interesting projects
Looking forward to seeing more!
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Post by: Biohazard
Not bad advice that mate.  Ill try and get time to finish him up and get some decent pics, I swear that red is nowhere near as bright irl. I had run out of blood red so switched to what is supposed to be the match Evil sunz scarlet. Im not so sure they match lol.
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Post by: logg_frogg
*Just checking in*
Nice progress
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Post by: Rawson
Ever thought about going for a black head instead of the red? You've got a lot of red on him already and black would look pretty sinister...
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Post by: Biohazard
This shows the reds slightly more true to life, I just changed my phone and for some reason its having a hard time getting the reds right. I thought about changing the colour of the head but Im not too keen tbh. I am possibly thinking of painting the inserts behind the Khrone symbol and the other shoulder black though. Just to break up the wall of red. Thanks for the tip though Rawson.
I have to admit though that these guys are on the back burner just now and when I can get time Im working on my Star Phantoms instead. I WILL get back to them soon though.
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Post by: Biohazard
The most up to date pic of the dread.
Due to a case of insomnia I've switched DoW2 off and started throwing bits together again,
Something wicked this way comes.....
NOW, I'm not exactly sure about this mock up, part of me likes it and part of me thinks it's cheesy as all hells nut sacks. I'm looking for some feedback as usual. Usual apologies apply for making another head mockup
I should also add that I've placed an order for a certain set of bits from the Ork Stompa kit. I'm not too sure of the scale but I thought I may as well see how it looks. As to what 'it' is, I'll leave you to guess among yourselves.
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Post by: Anvildude
Do something to get rid of the extra eyes, and blend the whole thing into the muzzle more (maybe turn the eyes into nostrils?) and I think you'll have a winner. Add a little drool, some paint, and it'll look awesome.
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Post by: Biohazard
You could be onto something there with the nostril suggestion. I really like the advancing pose of it in the last pic. I'm thinking I carrying on the serrated trim on the faceplates to other parts ie the LR 'shoulders' and possibly the hip plates.
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Post by: Rawson
You know me, I love everything you do, Biohazard. But not this time. That thing has got to go!  It doesn't fit the style of the rest of the titan at all: it's organic, has tusks, and stone trinkets tied on with rope. Now, the overall idea isn't so bad (I think you were even discussing a mouthy part earlier in the thread), but it needs to be more teeth "a la FW chaos Reaver" and not WHFB Great Maw.
Keep up the great work!
Rawson
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Post by: KrautScientist
Wow! Just wow, buddy!
While I understand some of Rawson's concerns, I think that this looks fething awesome! I would definitely keep the design, maybe with some slight alterations. But it's basically a representation of the World Eater's legion badge -- what's not to love?
Here's a couple of suggestions:
1.) I agree 100% with Anvildude: The eyes need to go! The nostril idea could go over nicely, although it could already be enough to get rid of the eyes. I took the liberty of doing a quick and dirty mockup in Photoshop:
I think it's great how the focus changes back to the single eye. Still, it will be a challenge to make the eye pop enough, but it should be possible. It also looks much better without the goofy face
You could even sculpt an eye socket serving as a connection between the maw and the rest of the face for an even more cyclopean look. LIke so:
(Please excuse the horrible drawing!)
2.) Rawson is right that the mouth seems a bit too organic for a Titan, but then that could easily be worked out by painting it in bronze or brass, to show that it's an ornament and not an organic part. And after all, it's a Chaos Titan we are talking about here -- there's quite a bit of design leeway, methinks
3.) I would get rid of the stones hanging from the tusks. You could maybe replace them with something more fitting (trophies, icons, chains, whatever). As it stands, the stones are one of the things screaming "Ogre Kingdoms".
All in all, the design may need a little work, but it really clicks with me. Where some of the other ideas were interesting but incomplete "design studies", this really has the look of a finished head.
You've got me on the edge of my seat again, buddy. Good job!
P.S. It's a pity the Dread gets relegated to the backburner again, since he's coming along rather nicely
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the feedback Guys,
Kraut, when I put this together I envisioned it being painted bronze and I agree it looks a lot better without the eyes. Im not too sure about the cyclops eye socket though. Ill look into it when Im working on the GS.
The stones on the tusks were always going to be carved off, I really like the look of the tusks though. I will add the cabling to the back of the head again as well for something else to tie it in with the WE. Ill also probably add a grille behind the maw. Im really looking forward to the giant chainsaw getting here as well.  As for the dread I only really need to hit it with another set of highlights on the gold and paint the trophies on top. My short attention span wins out again though and I keep finding something else to do.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
I LOVE the new head. Looks absolutely bitchin'. I agree the eyes need to go, perhaps replace them with a vent?
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Post by: Rawson
I think getting rid of the eyes/nose and adding a grill behind is an improvement, but, IMHO, this bit would look better on a shoulder or something as a world eater icon and not as a mouth. Even if you paint it bronze, get rid of the stones and such, it just isn't big enough to look good. As it is, it kind of looks like this guy:
Ok, maybe that's a bit harsh, but I say, "If you want a fanged maw on this guy, I think you should really go for it."
Biohazard wrote:
I should also add that I've placed an order for a certain set of bits from the Ork Stompa kit. As to what 'it' is, I'll leave you to guess among yourselves.
Biohazard wrote: Im really looking forward to the giant chainsaw getting here as well.
Boy, you sure are good at keeping secrets, Biohazard
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Post by: Biohazard
Bollox! lol! I forgot I was gonna be all secretive about that!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Heh heh...PufferTitan...
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Hahaha, thats GW level secrecy there
Personally im not a fan of the ogre bit either.
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Post by: Rawson
Biohazard wrote:Bollox! lol! I forgot I was gonna be all secretive about that!
No worries, mate! Much funnier this way
Squigsquasher wrote:Heh heh...PufferTitan...
Oh, how I hope that doesn't stick
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Post by: logg_frogg
I personally kinda like the face, I makes it more of a Daemon engine than a titan
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Post by: Biohazard
Rawson youre right, Im pants at keeping secrets  it needs a bit of work, however I am liking the general idea and it fits with my original plan of only using preexisting bits. I have ordered the standard from the Thundertusk as well though which is similar but a lot less organic and I think it may be slightly bigger. Also ordered this week were 2 copies of DarkVengeance a copy of Space Crusade, a fgiant chainsaw from the Ork Stompa and some Storm Raven wings to work on the arm joints.  Now Im broke again and off to beg for some grub.
This bit
And yeah Puffer-titan aint a good moniker lol
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Ooh that standard could work better. Id be very interested to see what that would look like on the titan.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Oops...
Gorehound it is...Heh heh...
Also, the Gothic Scenery set has some nifty bits that could be useful, like braziers, candles and a skull plate.
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Post by: Biohazard
No worries mate.  I did chuckle when I read the name.
Quick question, how big are Knight walkers usually? I ask because the Gorehound as it stands is only hitting approx 8.5" I know the FW Warhound is approx 10"
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Post by: Biohazard
The arm is gonna need some work.
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Biohazard wrote: Quick question, how big are Knight walkers usually? I ask because the Gorehound as it stands is only hitting approx 8.5" I know the FW Warhound is approx 10" Opinion varies wildly, anything from 5" to 9". The Epic knights would have scaled up to 8" in comparison to FW warhound, whereas the Armorcast Knights were 6". I personally feel Knights should be around 6/6.5". Even if you chose to accept Knights as being 8" tall, yours is far too bulky to be considered anything other than warhound class. Love that Chainsword! Should look great when youve fleshed it out a bit
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Thanks for the heads up mate. I suppose I could always get round the height difference by saying mine is a smaller recon version of the scout titan. Mind you if I had straightened the legs a bit more I could have probably got the height right but not the bulk.  Another thing is the idea of a scout titan is laughable really.  Its like using a T Rex to sneak up on someone.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Whoa, this thing is getting more and more amazing all the time, buddy! Fantastic job!
You know, along with the stuff people like PHD and GuitaRasmus are doing, this project really codifies kitbashing as an artform of its own! Excellent!
On a related note, I only just realised that the holes on the side of the head could work as eyes too!
As for scale and plausibility, I usually find that there are all kinds of bogus arguments to help you justify certain modelling choices after the fact, so don't worry about a few inches.
For example, just off the top of my head:
- the Titan is a special design commissioned by Angron himself due to the requirements in certain theatres of battle
- the Titan is actually a prototype for the (later developed) Warhound (maybe given over to Deimos' company during the heresy as a token of Angron's favour)
- the Titan is a special model unique to the World Eaters' legion -- let's face it: They were name the "War Hounds" at some point, they're bound to have a special connection to that particular Titan pattern, right?
- the Titan was changed by the Dark Mechanicus/the ruinous powers/its time in the warp/some bad boy who then conveniently ran off...
The model is shaping up to be truly fantastic, and that's what counts! You'll always be able to somehow retrofit it into the existing background (seeing as the "official" background seems to be criminally inconsistent anyway  )
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Thanks for the compliments and fluff suggestions buddy. Im liking the 'War Hounds' idea as in The warmachine has been with the legion from near the beginning. Originally i was just going to say they nicked it from some silly Ad Mech car park.
As for the arm I'm looking at removing the barrel from the top of the chainsaw as I don't think it really fits. I have a few pistons and plates to add to the upper arm as well.
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Post by: Myrthan
That titan in progress looks really cool, also lovin the khorne berzerker crests on the termies
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Post by: Rawson
Excellent choice on this swap!  I dislike the "blood pact" face somethin' fierce!
Let's see some more conversions!
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Post by: mayajid
your titan kicks a$$ on sooo many ways it's unbelievable, that's kit bashing on stellar levels. My jaws are on the floor some where I think.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The Dread looks cool, but the red shoulder is missing something. Maybe a World Eaters transfer or some Khorne icons?
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Post by: Biohazard
Squigsquasher, I know what you mean. Not sure what Ill do to remedy it yet though. :/
Couple more Terminators painted
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Post by: prototype_X
I really like those horned helmets, they look awesome!
Your poses are great too, looks like they are charging into the heat of battle.
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Post by: Rawson
Loving the white eyes! I can't remember seeing that before. Looks great!
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Post by: Vitruvian XVII
Thats very interesting! Infinitely preferable to the previous maw imo.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Whoa, buddy, I've been wanting to comment here for days - now I'm finally getting around to actually doing it
1.) Great work on the Termies! Those guys are really coming along nicely, and the unit will look great together!
2.) The Dread's looking ace too, but I already told you that. However, concerning the legion badge, maybe doing it in red would be too much of a good thing. That big boy is *very* red as it is  Personally, I really like to use a legion badge with a blue (or cyan) planet, since it makes for a great colour contrast. Anyway, he definitely needs some sort of eye-catcher on the left "panel" to balance out the Khorne rune on the other side. What about one of the old World Eaters decals from the early 90s?
3.) Great work on the cultists too! I've been considering cutting up that "commissar" cultist for quite some time, but have failed to work up the courage to do it so far
4.) The new Titan head is great, but I still think the other "maw" bit remains an equally viable option. I agree that the new part looks less organic and more mechanical, but I love the skulls inside the other maw. It somehow looks more ornamental. Anyway, both options are great. The head's really getting better all the time! My only nitpick would be that the single eye is still too easy to overlook. That may be changed by adding some contrasting colour to it, but at the moment, it really doesn't read as the Titan's eye.
Anyway, great work all around! Those World Eaters will be a sight on the tabletop!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
I really prefer the new maw plate! It looks phenomenal. Great work so far!
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Post by: Rawson
Biohazard wrote:
Whatcha think?
Much better than the other, imho! It matches better with the chaos-y bits you already have on there.
KrautScientist wrote:
My only nitpick would be that the single eye is still too easy to overlook. That may be changed by adding some contrasting colour to it, but at the moment, it really doesn't read as the Titan's eye.
I agree. I think a more prominent eye socket is in order
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Post by: shingouki
Biohazard you rock.
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Post by: LoneLictor
Your World Eaters are quite badass.
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Post by: Chaos Emperor
^what they said.
your titan looks so cool!! very predatory!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Loving the Titan.
I would suggest tweaking the Chainsaw, perhaps making it look like it's "underslung" under the forearm, which needs beefing up a bit.
What have you got in mind for the other arm?
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Post by: bibblles
Cool titan! You should make like an organic arm for the other side, like what the hellbrute has.
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Post by: Commander Cain
Fantastic! I have no idea how you even go about building something like this but it just incredible!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks a lot for the comments guys, it really does keep me going.
Squigsquasher, I honestly have pretty much no idea what Im doing for the other arm. Im thinking maybe some kinda vulcan mega bolter type thingy.  I was thinking of going for the underslung look as well for the chainsaw at the moment its just tacked on where it attaches on the stompa and yeah the forearm definitley needs beefing up.
Bibblles, thanks for the suggestion but Im aiming to avoid the bioorganic look on this guy. Maybe on the next one..........
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Post by: tinfoil
I definitely like your take on the chainsaw. Though it's a shame it's not just a bit bigger.
Regardless, this project remains amazing!
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Post by: Sheep
The original was better with the sword at this length, because it look like it could actually reach something.
The second pose is more aestheticly pleasing, but less practical at that length, if you got a second sword and doubled the length of the blade it would solve the reach problem and look bad ass.
Just my .02
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The saw looks good, but it needs to be longer. Perhaps you could try mounting it further forward on the arm?
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the feedback guys, the saw is actually mounted in pretty much the same place as before but I flipped the arm so the longest part is at the top now. That may be whats causing it to look like it is a bit smaller. I think the defiler plate bit on the saw itself doesnt help the illusion. Im going to look into rebuilding the powerplant part of the saw and look at different mount point. If I move the saw forward it really upsets the balance of the model.
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Post by: Biohazard
With so many other projects I should be working on I decided tonight before getting ready for work that while randomly rummaging through my bitsbox that I would start another project!  This was built using only the extra bits I have kicking around from the Gorehound. Obviously its nowhere near finished (nothing of mine ever is :p) The legs need beefing up a little but I like it so far.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Oh Biohazard, you silly boy. Focus on the Gorehound. Bloodpuppy can come later.
Also, for the Gorehound's other arm I suggest either a Volcano Cannon or a giant clawed fist.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Whoa, buddy, I am loving that smaller Titan already! I wish I could make something like that from mere leftovers -- and my bitzbox is pretty big as it is...
Anyway, great job, as always!
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Post by: Freytag93
Wow... this is amazing. I wish I had the bits and the creativity to come up with this.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys, Squigsquasher I know but I really can't help myself. I'm not sure what the Volcano cannon looks like but ill check it out.
I'm not sure what it'll run as possibly a Decimator if that's possible.
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Post by: Anvildude
You know, unless it completely offends your Khornate sensibilities, that smaller walker is looking very Slaaneshi to me. Leave the legs thin, keep the whole thing all lithe and menacing.
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Post by: Biohazard
Subjugator did come to mind when I was putting it together. Automatically Appended Next Post: A quick peek at a possible direction.
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Post by: Rawson
Biohazard wrote:I'm not sure what the Volcano cannon looks like but ill check it out.
It's a super heavy class weapon, the main gun on the shadowsword, iirc. Check eBay, I got one there for £3.50 for my Valdor project.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks Rawson ill check it out,
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Post by: Biohazard
Basic structure done.
Got home from work about an hour ago and did a little glueing on the Gorehound and BloodStalker. Not a monumental update as everything pretty much looks as it was except now it doesn't move
Now I'm gonna get some sleep lol
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Post by: Rawson
Here's a pic of a volcano cannon, Biohazard. Hope it's useful!
It just arrived today for my Valdor project. Woo Hoo!
Cheers,
Rawson
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks Rawson, Im still not sure, looking at the FW Warhound Im thinking I could maybe try and knock together a Vulcan Mega bolter or an Inferno cannon.....or maybe a Plasma blastgun lol. I think Ill just throw bits of plastic together and see what it looks like
I magnetised the torso and leg section of the Stalker, I also added some pipes/cables to the head.
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Post by: KrautScientist
That Stalker is simply great, buddy! Extra kudos for the very inspired use of the Stonehorn head!
Seeing the rate at which the model's taking shape, you should maybe think about taking commissions
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Post by: Rawson
Thanks for the close ups! I was having a tough time figuring out what the head was from  I especially like the lenses in the eye sockets!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks a lot for the compliment Kraut but I dont think Im anywhere near being able to take commisions.
Rawson, here are a couple more closeups of the head. Its made using a Defiler Battlecannon mount (minus the cannon itself) Two Termi teleport beacons and a head from the WHFB Ogre Kingdoms Stonehorn kit. Ive wanted to use the head for ages, I bought it to use on the Gorehound then realised the scale was all wrong. It never actually occured to me to build a smaller walker lol.
I magnetised the neck section but unfortunatley due to where I mounted the magnet the head sits a lot more upright now, I still think it looks like its stalking across the battlefield though. I just need to sort out some proper weapon options for it and GS the gaps then it sonto paint.
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Post by: Rawson
Biohazard wrote:Rawson, here are a couple more closeups of the head. Its made using a Defiler Battlecannon mount (minus the cannon itself) Two Termi teleport beacons and a head from the WHFB Ogre Kingdoms Stonehorn kit. Ive wanted to use the head for ages, I bought it to use on the Gorehound then realised the scale was all wrong. It never actually occured to me to build a smaller walker lol.
This is way more what I dreamed the demon engines would look like: much more of a blend of organic and mechanic. I like it! I imagine with your "no GS" policy, we won't see any other organics on the bloodstalker
Biohazard wrote:I just need to sort out some proper weapon options for it and GS the gaps then it sonto paint.
I'm thinking TL Battlecannon and CCW for the arms (gotta have more beef than TL las or ac for a beast like this  ). And what about that reaper AC on top?
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Post by: Biohazard
Its not that I have a 'noGS' policy buddy its just Im not that all that into over the top mutation, the skull on this will be painted in Gold/brass tones I think. The reaper on top isnt a bad idea though. If I ran this as a Decimator thats obviously going to be run as a Butcher Cannon. I thnk Im gonna avoid a CCW for this one, I do have some ideas for another one though so may make that the melee specialist.
Possible mount for a Defiler battle cannon.
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Post by: Rawson
Ok, two more ideas (just tell me when to shut up  )
1) What about the BC where the mouth should be? Kinda like the soul grinder maw cannon...
2) What about a las cannon and ac on each arm instead of las on one side and ac on the other? I think the silhouette would look better
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Hmm. I think the arms are a little bit small. Perhaps if the weapons were attached to actual arms rather than under-shoulder turrets it might work better.
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Post by: Biohazard
I'm not sure, ill have a play around with a couple of arm options and see if I like any of them.
Here's a couple of minor Dark Vengeance conversions for a small Black Legion I'm going to working on.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The Chosen look superb. I particularly like the one with the Lightning Claws.
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Post by: Biohazard
I decided today to have a proper look through my bits boxes and see what else I can piece together. I managed to build 7 new running Zerkers. I added a couple of bits to one of my existing Skull Champs and now have another 8 man Zerk squad.  They still need a lot of work ie purity seals removed, khorne icons added and lots of clean up. The helmets will all be swapped for faceswaps soon, Ive also still to order the Khorne shoulder pads for them but I like how they look so far.
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Post by: eldartau1987
I like how you are taking the time to add to every mini. This makes me very happy! I will definitely keep up on this!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
New Bezerkers look good! I particularly like the second left one. He looks really dynamic.
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Post by: BobPanda
Biohazard wrote:Thanks guys, Rawson the white eyes were a trait of the Khorne daemons back in the old Realm of Chaos books I think. Something about them having dead white eyes.
Hoard o Bits delivery arrived today
Whatcha think?

that head look so cool and angry ! ... great use of bitz. keep it up !
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy. Means a lot coming from you as you were the original inspiration behind the project.
No pics today but Im currently looking to see what I have to knock up a couple of Hades auto cannons like on the new Forgefiend for the Blood Stalker.
Once my magnets arrive I will magnetise the maw cannon too. Hopefully if my local games club allows Ill be able to use this guy as a Defiler,Decimator or Forgefiend. If not I dont really care as Im having a great time building it
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Post by: Jaidyn
Biohazard wrote:I am still working on my WE Ive just been hammered for time lately but I bought myself a Defiler kit and a Land Raider kit last week. Im now on leave from work and have been playing and come up with this so far. :evil1: This is going to take a while to build and its gonna cost a feckin fortune but its something Ive had in my head for a long time. Im hoping when done it wil be quite reminiscent of ED-209 and the old Space Crusade Dread. Nothing is glued yet.
Let me know what you think folks.
Oo love that titan foot!!!! kinda reminds me of The destroid monster from robotech just way cooler! XD http://www.macross2.net/m3/macrossplus/destroid-monster-plus/destroid-monster.gif
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Post by: edinburgh40kgamer
This is awesome mate!!! the conversions are great! these marines have some serious style!
I wish Normal Space Marines where as customizable as Chaos!... not that I'd be any good at it but it would be great fun!
Keep this up mate!
and Subbed! haha
Mark
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Post by: KrautScientist
That Bloodstalker is simply a fantastic model, buddy! If it was released as a kit, I'd buy it in a heartbeat!  It's even cooler than a "real" Decimator, since it's all plastic and one of a kind!
Great job on the base and objectives too!
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Post by: rhesusforbreakfast
I made an account to say that I really like the Bloodstalker. If you don't mind, I might have to make a knock off of it for my Alpha Legion.
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Post by: Biohazard
Wow, that's quite an honour thank you. And I don't mind at all, Id love to see someone else's interpretation of this guy.
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Post by: bibblles
In some of these pictures, there are hose or cable like bits between the body and the head running along the neck. Where did you find these? in what kit?
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Post by: Biohazard
Those bits are from the Defiler kit, from the CCW.
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Post by: The_Solitaire
I've been sub to this thread for a while figured it was about time I said something. Love your work Bio, especially the Bloodstalker. I think perhaps larger shoulders on the Gorehound but either way it is a very impressive conversion and will look amazing when its complete.
And speaking of that, your conversions on the chosen for DV are absolutely wonderful, making me want to start a Chaos army myself
Keep up the awesome work
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Post by: Biohazard
The_Solitaire Thanks for the kind words mate, I think I see what you mean about the gorehounds shoulders, I may look into that
Got home early from work today and intended on working on a few models to get them ready for my game on sunday.
Instead I built this.
None of this is glued or cut to fit, I literally picked up a Land Raider base and a Defiler torso and started sticking stuff together with blu tack. I seem to suffer from an affliction that prevents me from working on stuff I need to work on and start doing stoopid stuff
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Post by: eldartau1987
Counts as Drake? I think it looks cool!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy, I didn't actually have a clue what I was building lol. I've had a suggestion on another forum that it looks a little like an A-wing. I may actually run with this idea and start working it towards that sort of style.
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Post by: rhesusforbreakfast
Where did you get the Stonehorn head from? I've been trying to find it on bits sites to no avail.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great work on the new berzerkers! Skull champ Khorda is looking really badass, and some of those spliced-tohether helmets are simpl brilliant!
Keep up the great work, buddy!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Hmm. None of the pictures for Squad Krixius are showing up for me. Automatically Appended Next Post: OK, that is ironic. As soon as I posted the pictures started working again.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys, the Zerkers look a lot better now they have been primed. Im thinking once they're painted they will look pretty good. At the club today I managed a draw in my first ever game  and also picked up a couple of bits so knocked up a Turbo Laser for the Gorehound. Im quite happy with how its come out so far (apart from the shoulder joint, that needs a lot more work) Looking at it now though Im really not sor sure about the chain blade weapon. I may change that out for another shooty option. Lemme know what you think. c&c as always welcomed. And as always a scale pic Just for fun heres a quick pic with all my Chaos Walker models and a DV Chosen  These are all in various stages of completion.
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Post by: catharsix
Wow, really impressive work. I especially thine your DV Chosen conversions. I am doing similar ones, to get some variety out of the 30 or so I have. I may have to steal some of your other ideas too!
C6
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The Gorehound is looking great. I like the turbolaser, and I see you have been fiddling with the saw as well. Excellent!
One thing it might benefit from are some shouder armour plates of some description. Also, some spikes on the top could help.
After all, there is NO SUCH THING as too many spikes.
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Post by: Rawson
Hey, Biohazard! I'm glad you could find those volcano cannons, they make for a convincing turbolaser
Adding the weapon arms does raise a new concern: the Gorehound looks a bit thin in the shoulders with the turbolaser tucked up there. What about building the shoulders out a bit, like on the bloodstalker? On the other hand, you don't notice it so much on the CCW arm, so maybe another solution is to lengthen the upper arm section for the turbolaser.
Keep up the great work!
Rawson
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys, I'm still not sure about the chainsaw. And Squig, don't worry mate the spiky bits will come. I'm just wanting to get the main structures sorted first
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Post by: ArchaonSon
That work is all hench matey
Keep it up!!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy,
Some of you may remember my Venerable Dread for the Star Phantoms 'Valerius the Elder'
Well.................I got bored with him and left him on the shelf for a long time so Ive decided to make another WE Dread.
Meet the early work in progress of 'Voorhees the Relentless'
His legs will be reposed into a mirror of 'Krueger' and Ive still to decide on a weapon for him, he will be my Dakka dread. Im thinking of making another heavy bolter arm like I had on the early works of Krueger and maybe a multi melta as well. The symbol on his shoulder is a very quick rough attempt at the WE badge. Im going to have another crack at that when Im less tired.
As always any feedback is appreciated.
Oh I should mention Squad Krixus is paint in progress, nothing much to show yet though. Automatically Appended Next Post: A quick pic in better light with the skull faceplate.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Looks good! For his weapons, how about a Twin Linked Autocannon? I don't know what other options Chaos Dreadnoughts have in this edition beyond the normal weapons, so if there are any others do tell me.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:Thanks buddy,
Some of you may remember my Venerable Dread for the Star Phantoms 'Valerius the Elder'
Well.................I got bored with him and left him on the shelf for a long time so Ive decided to make another WE Dread.
Aha, cosmic order has been re-established, then
He's looking good, buddy! I especially love what you've done with the resin skulls! Personally, I'd probably go for the other head (not the skull mask) in order to make him more of an individual and less of a complete twin to Krueger. Plus the other mask would also work rather nicely with the Voorhees name  Maybe you could even add some haphazard blood spatters across the mask...
As for the weapons, I can only recommend starting with the different weapon options that come with the Venerable Dread and moving on from there. In my opinion, you should make full use of the flexibility that the kit offers and keep the weapons exchangeable instead of committing to a single equipment choice. The Plasma Cannon and Lascannon work great with some extra bitz, while a Heavy Bolter, Autocannon (more range than a Multimelta, and quite enough oomph to punch through those pesky Dark Eldar vehicles' armour, btw  ) or even additional CC weapon should be easy enough to convert. See my own Dread for reference, perhaps. Actually, I am feeling kind of guilty, since your original Heavy Bolter is now part of my collection...
Anyway, great work, as always!
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Thanks buddy, thing is I really like the other mask on my 2nd Helbrute and only have one of each lol. If i do use the visor mask ill have to work on it a little as its a little long and in my opinion throws the proportions of the torso out a little. I have bits to make another heavy bolter don't worry about that.
The lascannons have likewise been used on the 2nd Helbrute. I have some Devastator las cannons that I could probably botch together to look pretty good. I have ideas to make a Multi melts as well.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
I would use the different mask on the second Dreadnought, the non-skull one. It sets him apart a bit.
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Post by: ghosty
I'd have said you should keep the mask a non skull plate. It looks easier to make into a certain hockey mask esque look, which would fit his name very nicely. A machete wouldn't go amiss either!
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Post by: KrautScientist
Wow! Just wow!
I already suspected that those big mutant...things would make for excellent chaos spawn! Thanks for proving my point!
Seriously, though, great job, buddy! Those bases are looking absolutely ace too!
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Post by: eldartau1987
Those are really really cool!
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Post by: Moltar
Those bloodspawn look amazing. Love the size of them. I like your objective marker too. Simple but so effective.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the replies guys, I should add the dude with the blutack on his face will have some kind of facemask/armourplate added. I really wasnt keen on the fatface the model has.
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Post by: Freytag93
Well done man. You keep tugging at the dark part of my heart dedicated to chaos.
Must... Keep... Following... Greater... Good...
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Post by: Biohazard
Ha! Thanks man, Im sure if you asked my patron god he would have a faster way for you to follow the greater good.  All you have to do is sign your soul over and maybe decapitate a few folk. No biggy
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Post by: Biohazard
Wow, thanks Meade.
I have to admit I didnt expect such a positive reaction to the spwan for what is essentially a very simple conversion.
Thanks though everyone whos commented. Im snowed with work this week so wont get any paint on them yet. Stil need to decide on a colourscheme for them anyway.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Wow, thanks Meade.
I have to admit I didnt expect such a positive reaction to the spwan for what is essentially a very simple conversion.
Simple conversion but effective, still a awesome addition to an army. The gorehound robots are more impressive, guess i just got to the thread a bit late
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Post by: Nashbashem
I love this thread  It's inspired me to do my chaos marines. Keep up the good work
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Post by: Biohazard
Dont take that the wrong way Meade I am glad they are getting such a positive response. Just surprised lol. Thanks for dropping by.
Nashbashem, (awesome screenname) Thanks buddy and Im glad I can inspire you. Thats what this thread is all about, giving other people some ideas just as I have gained so many ideas from other logs.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Dont take that the wrong way Meade I am glad they are getting such a positive response. Just surprised lol. Thanks for dropping by.
Well it's pretty much sold me on grabbing those models to do a conversion to some kind of dark mechanicus experimental mutants. That along with the rat ogres from Isle of Blood. Which I would also use as spawn.
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Post by: Biohazard
Funny you should mention the IoB rat ogres. I've been looking at some of those to boost this to a unit of 4. I think with a simple head swap they could fit in perfectly.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Funny you should mention the IoB rat ogres. I've been looking at some of those to boost this to a unit of 4. I think with a simple head swap they could fit in perfectly.
Yeah just cut off the head, and maybe the tails. maybe a third arm or something to make them a bit more chaos, if you like that flavor. In fact they are a lot cheaper than getting those warshrine figs atm... nothing on ebay I could find aside from getting the actual model... 50 bucks no thanks. I'd rather pay 10 bucks for 2 rat ogres  .
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Post by: Biohazard
Yeah I bought the full kit and although there are a few nice bits in the kit I was a little underwhelmed. I had thought the braziers on the back had interchangeable icons for each of the gods but they are all one piece with no way of changing the icons out. The plates with the daemon faces are nice though as is the totem.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Yeah I bought the full kit and although there are a few nice bits in the kit I was a little underwhelmed. I had thought the braziers on the back had interchangeable icons for each of the gods but they are all one piece with no way of changing the icons out. The plates with the daemon faces are nice though as is the totem.
Yeah. Seems like something that's good to get if you're going to be doing some chaos terrain such as a portal, I'm just going to wait until the bits sellers chop it up though. But I pressed the launch button on those rat ogres!
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Post by: Squigsquasher
One thing I think would look cool is a gigantic but emaciated and hunched over spawn, carrying a huge cannon thing, a bit like the grenade launcher large mutants from Rage. Perhaps give them some armour made from wrecked vehicles?
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Post by: Biohazard
I like that idea Squig, I've been playing Doom 3 again lately and I have a few ideas for some cannon armed spawn (Mancubus style) I think I'd probably align them more with Nurgle though.
Meade I can't wait to see what you do with those Rat Ogres.
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Post by: lipsdapips
Love the look of all the terrainy pieces on the base, very battle ridden and realistic!
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Post by: Nashbashem
I too have been playing DOOM3 again. Awesome game. Maybe some kind of revenent? Mancubus style gun would also be awesome.
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Post by: Biohazard
Easily one of my favourite game series. The Revenant is also another idea. I may use some of these ideas for Obliterators actually. Automatically Appended Next Post: Skull Champ Krixus paint in progresss
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Added a new head to the second Bloodspawn.
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Post by: Nashbashem
I love the head. Reminds me of the Pinky monster from DOOM3  can't wait to see more
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Post by: Biohazard
That's pretty much the exact look I was going for buddy  Im thinking of changing the cyclops head on the other guy for something a little more Khornate as well.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The new head looks great! By the way, here is a picture of the cannon carrying mutant from RAGE that I think would make a good basis for a chaos spawn:
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Yeah I like this guys Squig, like I say I may keep this for a Deathguard. Spawn. I'm almost up to 2500pts of WE once they are all painted/based I'm going to move onto one of the other gods and to be honest the only one that really interests me is Nurgle. I have an unreasonable amount of hate for Tzeentch for some reason and Slaanesh I think could work but I want to see what the second wave of CSM releases are like before thinking about them. I've just listened to Galaxy in Flames and have to say I'm warming to the character of Lucius although I hate his model.
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Post by: Nashbashem
The reason for your hatered for tzeentch is simple. Your a patron of the almighty blood god  I love them all except slaanesh (Khorne is my personal fave). For some unexplained reason I just hate anything slaaneshi
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Post by: Biohazard
Ha you maybe right as Im not too keen on the whole magic in 40k thing anyway. I must have adopted some traits from The High Handed Slayer.
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Now I may have taken a complete step backwards here but while I was working on the legs for the Voorhees dread I decided I really didnt like Kruegers static pose. Its been bugging me for a while so I mercilessly ripped him apart tonight and did a very rough mock up of a more charging pose. The idea is to have him charging in with the more actiony Squad Krixus while Voorhees backs up Squad Khorda by relentlessy pounding the enemy with heavy weapon fire. Anyway, have a look and let me know what you think.
I think he looks a little apelike but I actually dont mind that. the feet will be reworked and he will be on a 60mm base once Ive redone his old one to fit the rest of the army.
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Post by: Medium of Death
It looks like he's spotted his next victim!
Can't stress enough how awesome this blog is.
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Thanks buddy, Im quite happy with the pose, as you say it's like he's spotted his next victim and is scraping his claw along the deck to get them nice and sharp as he starts to charge.
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Post by: KrautScientist
New pose looks great, buddy! Now for a nice, detailed base...
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Im working on it.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Both of them look awesome!
I thought you were giving Vorhees a different head though?
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Yeah thats what Im saying buddy, Im still not sold on the other mask. It just looks a little too big in the recess. I think I may try and combine a couple of different masks and see what I can come up with
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Post by: Squigsquasher
How about chopping off a little from the bottom of the other mask?
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Thoughts? I cut a little out of the top of the visor to keep the cool vent detail.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
That looks awesome. I think we have a winner!
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Thanks man. Its obvioulsy vry rough just now but at the GS stage itll get tidied up a bit. It'll also have a few more pipe/tubes etc to connect it to the sarcophagus. Automatically Appended Next Post: The whole mob. Really need to extract a digit and get these all painted. As you can see there is a unit of 20 cultists and another unit of 8 CSM in here. The CSM will eventually be converted to Berzerkers in the same way as the other 2 squads.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great work on Krueger, buddy! I was really rather apprehensive about the idea of cutting apart that mask, but it worked out fantastically! I especially like how the design of the head now recalls the FW World Eaters Dread. Great job! He really looks like an individual now!
Also, that's a really sweet looking army you've got there! It's so full of great conversions and kitbashes, and that Bloodstalker ranks among the best Defiler conversions I have ever seen. Is Deimos finished, btw? What about a closeup?
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Thanks for the kind words buddy. Its the first ive had them all together as an army. Deimos isnt finished mate. I'm thinking needs a slight overhaul to keep up with the likes of yourself and Guita, Ill be keeping the same overall pose but may tweak a few things on him. The Bloodstalker may or may not be getting a friend soon.  Gore Strider is a possible name.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:Deimos isnt finished mate. I'm thinking needs a slight overhaul to keep up with the likes of yourself and Guita,
Whoa, don't sell yourself short, mate! Some of your stuff is jaw-droppingly good! I'd never have the balls to tackle those vehicle kitbashes. As for reaching GuitaRasmus' level: Yeah, good luck with that
Looking forward to the Gorestalker (or, indeed, to anything else really  )
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Post by: Biohazard
A current close up on Lord Deimos. I havent really worked on him for a while. Like I say Im going to tweak him a little.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Looks good! What is the head from?
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Post by: Biohazard
Deimos' head is just one of the standard Terminator Lord heads with the goofy looking eye shaved off. I like it as it has all the cables running into the skull already so they work perfectly as Butchers nails imho
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Excuse my dimness, but what are Butcher's Nails?
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Post by: KrautScientist
They are the neural implants the World Eaters were outfitted with in order to make them more aggressive and dangerous in battle. The implants were (imperfectly) copied from the ones Angron himself received during his life as a gladiator, and they had the side effect of turning most of the legion into frenzied madmen
Like Biohazard said, the cabling on the back of Deimos' head makes for rather convincing Butcher's Nails.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Ah, I see. Thanks!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for clearing that up for me Kraut
A little paint in progress.
Kruegers Base,
Voorhees Base
Gore Strider Base,
And finally started to lay some colour on this, I was really unsure how to tackle something this size but it seems to be coming along alright so far.
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Post by: KrautScientist
 Holy sh*t, buddy! That looks awesome! Both the bases and PIP Bloodstalker are truly excellent! I am green with envy right now!
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Post by: Yellowbeard
Wow! That looks great, Bio. I love the work you did on the bases, especially the... what is that? a hand?... buried under the rubble on Voorhees' base. Very nice nice touches!
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Post by: Biohazard
Wow thanks guys, Yellowbeard that is indeed a Marines Malevolent hand. I like to add little bits like that to make the bases more interesting not only to look at but to build as well. Same reason I added the little sign to the Blood Stalkers base.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
The Blood Stalker is looking great!
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Post by: Meade
Definitely one of the best bipedal-walker defiler conversion I've seen. Awesome skull head, and not too busy with the details. Will he get glowing eyes?
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks a lot buddy, that means a lot coming from someone as creative as yourself. For the eyes I honestly have no idea. All my other models Dreadnoughts included have the plain white eyes of the khorne deamons. I dont think that will really work on something like this though.
Did a little more work
Automatically Appended Next Post: EDIT!! I have literally just found the inner part of the skull with the natural eyes of the Stonehorn, I'm thinking they could work and fit the whole Daemon Engine theme as well as the theme for the rest of the force.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Thanks a lot buddy, that means a lot coming from someone as creative as yourself. For the eyes I honestly have no idea. All my other models
EDIT!! I have literally just found the inner part of the skull with the natural eyes of the Stonehorn, I'm thinking they could work and fit the whole Daemon Engine theme as well as the theme for the rest of the force.
or just try a few things and see what you like, but the skull is cool so people will be attracted to the eyes.
if you feel like trying to make them glowing,
first make a ball of greenstuff and place it on the tip of the eye-cylinder things. painting them white first, then get the brightest most translucent red you have, and paint over it, with just a thin layer of watered down paint. then finish with a little dot of white paint in the upper corner of the eye, and cover with another thin layer of paint, it should make a simple glowing effect.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the advice buddy, really appreciate it. I think I'm going to either shorten the cylinder thingys in the eye sockets so the eyes are quite deep set or ill try the biological type eyes. Heading out to the games club soon so it will be later tonight I get more work done on this.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Like I said, the Bloodstalker is coming along nicely! Excellent stuff, buddy!
Not sure about the biological eyes, though. The rest of the model simply isn't organic enough for that, plus I really love how the lenses are set in that organic looking skull.
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Post by: Rawson
KrautScientist wrote:Not sure about the biological eyes, though. The rest of the model simply isn't organic enough for that, plus I really love how the lenses are set in that organic looking skull.
Second that.
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Post by: Biohazard
Fair point well made Kraut. Like I say I'm going to shorten the eye stalks a little. Hopefully I don't have to rip the head apart to do it. Ill give Meads suggestion a go. I have some Tamiya clear red here somewhere I'm sure that should give a decent glow effect.
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Post by: lipsdapips
These demon engines of yours are really starting to look quite fearsome indeed, especially surrounded by all those terminators. Looking sweet with the paintjobs, and I love the conversion work on the Lord, fantastic!
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Post by: bigfish
Really like this model at the moment but i really want to see what you do with the eyes  (also i have'nt commented on the warhound your doing... ITS AWESOME, im so jelous. those legs are just wow) keep up the awesome
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Post by: eldartau1987
Well done indeed. This thing is down right scary!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys, im gonna take a break from it for a couple of days. Im really pleased with how hes coming along so far though.
Oh and Bigfish, the Gorehound will take me ages to paint if this is anything to go by lol
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Post by: Freytag93
That shrine is great man! What bits did you use?
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks mate, it's literally just the icon holder standy bit from the Warshrine kit and a s***load of skulls from my bits box.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Wow, all kinds of great updates, buddy! That objective marker is great, and I am really looking forward to seeing the rest of your Raptor squad!
The Gorehound is looking better than ever as well! The Khorne icon from the warshrine kit is a great addition to the head! Plus I love how you managed to make such a huge and unwieldy machine look sooo angry
And finally, great progress on the Bloodstalker as well! You're quite the accomplished painter! Although I have to say that I am not really sold on the red eyes: Personally speaking, I would have gone with something to contrast the red (light blue or green, for example). But I'll reserve judgment until I've seen the finished model!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy, Im not sure there are enough symbols of Khorne on the Gorehound yet lol. The spikes fit my vision perfectly, they will be interspersed with some skulls as well and that may well be the upper part done. The whole model needs a tonne of green stuff throwing at it still but this was never gonna be a fast build. As for the Blood Stalkers eyes Im still not 100% sold on the red either yet, Im going to paint them a little more gem like and see how i like the result. I may yet change them to green.
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Post by: Biohazard
Squad Krixus approx 75% complete.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great job, mate! This army's looking better all the time! Plus those helmet conversions rock even harder when painted!
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Post by: Moltar
I agree with KrautScientist. Those helmets just look badass.
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Post by: bigfish
Very cool
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Post by: KrautScientist
I've said it before, and I'll gladly say it again: awesome stuff!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks guys, means a lot. Ill just leave these here. Deimos Voorhees
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Post by: Biohazard
Looking for some advice on my next walker folks. I'd thought of using this head to make a second Defiler but there is something not quite right about it. I can't quite put my finger on it though so I'm looking for some feedback please.
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Post by: Freytag93
First glance notes:
1) The face and the shoulders are too different. The head looks too small compared to the shoulders. There's too much empty space. I would recommend reducing the shoulders so that the head doesnt look sunken in/too small.
2) The gun on top is too small for the placement. It looks tiny when compared to the upper torso. I would move it to either one of the arms or another, smaller area.
3) The legs look great. I like the predatory feel from the way the joints are set.
Random Question: What are you planning on using this walker for? A defiler conversion or a warhound?
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Post by: KrautScientist
Well, after giving it some more thought, here’s my take:
First of all, like I already told you: While I share your slight uneasiness, there’s always the possibility that it’s actually looking great, but that were are spoiled by your fantastic Bloodstalker using that awesome head kitbashed from a Stonehorn “facemask” and lots of technical bitz
That said, maybe this particular head would work better with a less angular, less machinelike upper body: something more rounded and organic looking, not unlike the bodies for the fiend kit or FW Blood Slaughterer. I would also add all kinds of cabling connecting to the open “brainpan” of the head to give it more substance: Combined with the Defiler’s very flat “shoulders”, it seems a bit lacking atm.
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Post by: Biohazard
I think I'm gonna scrap the head for the second walker, I may use another Stonehorn head with a few changes. I may use the Daemon face for a flyer.
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Post by: Anvildude
That head is kinda Oriental looking. Maybe look at making a Long (eastern dragon) inspired Maulerfiend from it?
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Post by: Biohazard
Freytag, Im using the Blood Stalker (where the legs come from) as a counts as Defiler, if you go back a page or two you can see the progress on that guy. My Warhound proxy the Gorehound is a back a couple of pages as well
Kraut, it is indeed lacking at the moment and I would be adding all sorts of gubbins and cables to it but Im just not feeling it right now. I think it may look a bit better if I remove the topmost eye.
Anvildude, while I really like that idea I just dont think it would fit the feel of my army. Not discounting it though.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Hmm. If you ever did a second Gorehound then that face could work well.
Also, one thing I think would improve the Gorehound is either a pair of horns or a set of long curving tusks.
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Post by: Biohazard
Already checked buddy, its too small for the Gorehound lol.
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Post by: Biohazard
No pictures in this post but I have scrapped the second Defiler for now. Im just really not feeling it and don't want to make a carbon copy of the Blood Stalker. On that note I've decided to work on a counts as Forge/Mauler fiend. I picked up a Grey Knight Nemesis on Friday and hope to have some progress to show soon. I have to wait till after the new year for weapons as a friend at my club is supplying them and I've ordered a head from eBay so again that will probably be next year before it arrives.
Before I go I just wanted to share this link
http://eternalhunt.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/the-eternal-hunt-awards-a-look-back-at-2012/.
Over the past year or so I've gotten to know a few hobbyists on here and always appreciate the honest feedback and ideas that you all provide. One guy in particular Krautscientist has been invaluable in helping me out with some bits for certain models and just general advice when it came to my first forays into the actual gaming side of the hobby. Today I received this link in a pm from him that really humbled me. Thanks again buddy.
Anyway, enough mushy stuff, lets get back to the slaughter. I urge you all to check out Krauts blog as there are some really top notch links on there.
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Post by: Nashbashem
I thought the face was quite good but I agree that it would probably look better on somesort of flyer. Keep up the great work and Merry Christmas!
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Post by: Medium of Death
Loving the look of these. Very brutally posed. I'd love to know your bits source too, crazy amounts of different kits used throughout. You can't be buying the full kits, can you?
Going back to the Daemonic Face, I'd maybe wait until the Chaos Daemons codex gets released, maybe they'll be a new Daemon Engine or perhaps use it as a belly plate for a Blood Thirster or something.
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Post by: megabambam
That is cool!
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Post by: Yellowbeard
Man, I love this thread!
Where is the head on this beast from? It looks like a giant sabre tooth tiger skull.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy, the head is from the WHFB Necrosphinx kit for the Tomb Kings, Im not too sure on the bionic eyes yet, I may change them.
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Post by: Medium of Death
I like what you've done with the dreadknight arms, i'm presuming their going to be some kind of giant exhaust/brazier with flames billowing out of them?
Alternatively if that's where the cannons are going, for an over the shoulder thing that would be equally cool. I'll take you up on that PM offer, good sir. I'll need to be building up my bits levels over the next few months. The Terminators are ready, it's just all the stuff that needs to be stuck to them that needs buying!
Also, see for the small skulls that you use, where do you get them? Cast up yourself, or from another kit? VC skeleton heads look about the right scale, but some GW skulls are bigger than the heads I plan on using. The skulls that you, and Kraut use in your threads seem to be the right scale or feel right at least.
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Post by: Biohazard
I was thinking of mounting either the cannons or the tendrils there, not sure yet will decide when I get the bits.  I had thought about using them as braziers as warshrine bits fit pretty well there but it wouldnt look right with the rest of the machines.
Gimme a few mins to sort out the links and youll have pm. The skulls are from an ebay seller who Ill also send a link to.
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Post by: Martok
Man you commented on my Biped defiler over at BandC a little while ago and you carry on putting it to shame with more bipedal madness lol. Great stuff and I am watching this develop very keenly.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
I am LOVING the new bipedal contraption thingy! Clever use of the Dreadknight body!
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Post by: Biohazard
Martok, thanks buddy. Anymore progress on your Defiler?
Squig, cheers mate, I need to bulk up the torso a little especially as its a bit thin around the back but Im happy with how its going so far.
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Post by: Meade
The new Maulerfiend is looking very cool... and definitely improving on previous builds... I think you should keep him squat as possible. It never hurts to build up the cables and machinery around the connections to the limbs... makes the whole thing seem more muscular and chaotic
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Post by: Nashbashem
That new defiler is baddass! Don't change the bionic eyys, reminds a bit of the human reaper at the end of Mass Effect 2. Love the raptors as well. Are they getting the bunny ears as well? Keep it up
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Post by: KrautScientist
Great work on the Raptors and new daemon engine so far, buddy! I guess it was a very conscious decision not to use bunny ears on the Raptors, right?
About the daemon engine: You should definitely use the idea with the braziers attached to the dreadknight arms you posted earlier! That would probably look extremely cool and also channel some of the vintage chaos artwork! Maybe the braziers/arms could be attached to the sockets on the back:
Also, that facelike defiler part seems a little wasted on the back of the model: Maybe it could be used on the front, surrounding the actual head?!
Oh, and I have a slighly crazy idea for the model's actual arms: What about having the lasher tendrils surround the Hades Autocannons, not unlike the tentacles of an Octopus. I did a (fairly horrible) mockup with Photoshop to show you what I mean. Take a look:
I hope this gives you an impression. Like this, you would only need one pair of arms to represent the cannons as well as the CC options.
Anyway, looking forward to your next update!
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Post by: Biohazard
The Defiler plate is just for some decorations round the back as it was a little plain, I did try it on the front but couldn't get it to fit in a way I was happy with.
The idea for the tendril/cannon arms is a beauty! I may try something like that when I get the bits. Cheers buddy. Automatically Appended Next Post: Ps yes it was a conscious decision to avoid the bunny ears ok the raptors. I may change my mind but for now I'm happy enough with the head choices. When I build my bikers they will be eared so to speak.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Biohazard wrote:yes it was a conscious decision to avoid the bunny ears ok the raptors. I may change my mind but for now I'm happy enough with the head choices. When I build my bikers they will be eared so to speak. 
Might be a good way of adding some visual variation to the different unit types! I like it!
Oh, and I almost forgot: How about adding a flamer/weapon in the new daemon engines mouth. There should be enough room between the jaws. The Baleflamer or Hades Autocannon bit from the Heldrake comes to mind. Or a good ol' regular flamer
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Post by: Biohazard
Another solid idea mate, I was thinking of putting something in there. Rule of cool applies though so i dont really care if it works in game
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Another solid idea mate, I was thinking of putting something in there. Rule of cool applies though so i dont really care if it works in game 
Or make it a nasty-looking plasma gun and you could use it in a game... it's a template weapon anyway so mega-flamer or plasma is not far off the mark!
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Post by: Biohazard
Good thinking that man. Looking at it I may have to change the main tusks of the head for a weapon to fit in there. Watch this space.
Ps Meade I posted your package off this morning after I finished nightshift.
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Post by: Meade
Biohazard wrote:Good thinking that man. Looking at it I may have to change the main tusks of the head for a weapon to fit in there. Watch this space.
Ps Meade I posted your package off this morning after I finished nightshift. 
Cool,
Yeah I think if it were me I would nip off the tusks, or not put anything in there. Both ways would be cool but installing a mouth-gun would just require more work around the skull and power cabling to get it to look right.
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Post by: KrautScientist
Meade wrote:Both ways would be cool but installing a mouth-gun would just require more work around the skull and power cabling to get it to look right.
Hmm, these are the Heldrake cannons:
I guess these would either work with very little additional changes to the skull. Or they could even (partly) replace the jaw, seeing how they basically have a jaw attached at the bottom  The baleflamer one would probably look pretty cool. The Hades autocannon one just looks stupid at that small scale (especially if you compare it to the HUGE Hades Autocannons that come with the Forgefiend...
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Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe
Kicking myself for missing the first 20 pages of this thread. WIll have to go back through it. Impressed w/ what I saw in the last 2 pages, will be back for more and staying current from here on out.
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks for the imput guys, i should hopefully have the cannons this sunday coming so I can sort out the armamament.
Skalk Bloodaxe, appreciate you dropping by buddy, a few of the older links were broken a while back to a screw up with Photobucket and i lost a lot of the images but hopefully you still liked what you see.
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Post by: Squigsquasher
I agree that if you could work the baleflamer into the jaw that it would look great. How about splitting the main lower jaw, using this one in between the halves for a jaw-within-a-jaw effect?
Also, I just had what is simultaneously the best and worst idea in the history of the multiverse...SkullCaptor Sakura.
Get creative with a Valkiya the Bloody and it might just work.
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Post by: Biohazard
I quite like the multi jaw idea mate, Ill have a look tomorrow once i get home from the club. I dont have any games planed but I am picking up a Land Raider, some bikes to convert and hopefully the parts to complete the Fiend.
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Post by: Biohazard
Heres a very early idea for the Lasher, let me know your thoughts.
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Post by: Nashbashem
The ultimate in tentacle  hahaha  But in all seriousness I actually quite like it. Will there some guns to go with them? Keep up the great work
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Post by: Biohazard
Im not sure yet mate, I have the Hades Autocannons here but I quite like the idea of just running it as a Mauler Fiend.
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Post by: Nashbashem
Thats actually quite a cool idea. I know if that was my opponent I'd be dropping a brick  Any ideas for a forgefiend?
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Post by: Biohazard
Originally I was going to use this in both roles by Magnetising the arms but I actually really like this and cant find a way to mount the cannons Im 100% happy with yet so I may yet have to build another. Heres the Landraider I picked up today for much cheapness, it was covered and I mean literally covered in spikes so Ive spent half an hour or so removing them and thankfully the guy who built it used superglue rather than Poly Cement so there isnt much in the way of damage.
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Post by: Nashbashem
What sort of craziness would the forgefiend have  and good buy. Shame the previous owner turned it into a giant spike with lascannons  will there be some conversions on this?
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Post by: Squigsquasher
Hmm, whilst I like the tentacles, I can't help but feel the arms are too small. He needs some proper arms.
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Post by: KrautScientist
The fiend's coming along great, buddy! But I wouldn't discount the cannons just yet: Why not use the shorter "magma cutter" arms as a mount for the cannons? They are looking a little useless atm anyway
Oh, and thanks for that little pep talk you gave me! Spent the whole weekend working on my Heldrake conversion and made good headway. Yay!
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Post by: Biohazard
Thanks buddy, I havent fully discounted the cannons yet. I am thinking ahead though
Looking at these pics of the Land Raider I am going to discount the spikes on top. Im really not happy with them. Ill see what else I can come up with although Im thinking just the skulls works for me.
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Post by: Meade
my advice would be to find a way to magnetize the forgefiend if you can... it may be an extra headache but if you actually use it for a lot of games it will be worth it in the end. You've got to admit the Hades cannons are awesome little bits, but so are the tentacles...
Also I can't decide if those magna cutters are too small and look like t-rex arms or the giant tentacles balances it out.
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Post by: Sheep
T-rex arms just add the badassery!
Great conversions as always mate, Your chaos is one of the armies I would love to emulate one day.
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Yeah part of me wants to magnetize this but the bigger part of me just wants to build a stand alone Forgefiend that I can magnetize between Plasma/Hades.  I have a few ideas brewing for it so Im going to leave this as is for now, I havent glued the tentacles or Magma cutters yet. I have to say I like the T Rex look of the arms as it fits the fluff of the Fiend pulling prey in close and then opening them up with the Magma cutters Sheep, thanks man that really does mean a lot. I just wish I could paint as well as you Took a couple more pics while I had the time. Its starting to look a lot like an army Family portrait  Squad Krixus  Squad Khorda  Squad Razel  Terminator Squad Myrmax  Random Standard Bearer I threw together  The 'Walkers', Gorehound, Blood Stalker, Lasher Fiend, Voorhees the Relentless and Krueger the Undying
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Post by: Anvildude
Kinda surprised Voorhees doesn't have a modified Grey Knights libby-dread DCCW- you know, for the 'machete' stylings.
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Post by: Biohazard
I like your thinking, I REALLY like your thinking
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Post by: Yellowbeard
Fantastic army, Bio. Great to see them all together. Makes me want to build a chaos army....
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Post by: Rawson
Loving the lasher, especially the necrosphinx head! My only comment would be to have some of the lashes heading forwards instead of all of them away (i.e. about to lash the tar out of someone) Does that make sense?
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Post by: Kandle
Just found this thread and like what I'm seeing.
One thing that does seem a little off is how straight the Lasher Fiend's legs are. I think it would look a lot more aggressive and menacing if the legs were bent more like the counts-as Defiler's stance.
Or maybe its just the camera angle, not sure.
just my $.02, and now back to lurking.
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Post by: Martok
Man that Defiler is mental! Very cool. My own one is being moth balled for now :,( unfortunately i have 3 tournies in march/april all using my Necrons and I have barely painted anything so everything else has gone back into the cupboard for now.
Keep up the good work. When I pull the defiler out of storage I need your ideas to use
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Post by: KrautScientist
That army of yours is really looking more and more spectacular all the time, buddy!  Colour me jealous!
I especially like the fact that pretty much every model in your army is custom-built! Truly awesome stuff!
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