BrookM wrote:We've figured that we should be able to ship within the EU from the UK. Shipping will still cost the same (boo) as we'll need to deal with customs and VAT on your behalf if you're in the EU, and to cover the extra cost of shipping less than a container load for UK fulfillment.

This will mean that you won't have any issues with possible customs queries, additional tax or other hassles, making your Sedition Wars experience that much smoother!

Sweet!

As I said, I dont think anyone is averse to paying shipping, it was just the chance of getting fingered for another 50 bucks by the customs chaps.

Expect things to go through the roof now...

I might buy an extra set for a mate now!

Aye, now I'm very interested.

Ok, now THAT are good news.

great news :]

It seems to be working - they've already almost hit the next Stretch Goal.

$150k threshold has been breached...

With all the extra minis you can get by going in for the $100 entry point, I wonder if/how the rules will handle turning the game into a small-sized skirmish wargame? Especially if there's another way to add a second set of tiles to the purchase.

From the gameplay video, it seems the most clunky part is managing all the cards/effects for individual troopers, especially since they have enough hitpoints to survive more than one successful range/melee hit. Though at least for the Samaritan side, you can just easily number their shoulderpads with transfers to coincide with individual cards. Or maybe number the underside of their bases.


I know that's what's really tempting me towards pledging. On one hand I could play it as the normal boardgame(now with campaign rules!), which looks like it would give me what Space Hulk really didn't, and then I can turn all the ranges in the game into inches, and take all my extra troops I'd be getting onto the open table for some Necromunda-esqe skirmish action, where I can get my wargame itch, but with troops that matter individually, rather than just massed groups of one-hit pawns, which is the draining part of 40K for me, lately.

AegisGrimm wrote:With all the extra minis you can get by going in for the $100 entry point, I wonder if/how the rules will handle turning the game into a small-sized skirmish wargame? Especially if there's another way to add a second set of tiles to the purchase.

From the gameplay video, it seems the most clunky part is managing all the cards/effects for individual troopers, especially since they have enough hitpoints to survive more than one successful range/melee hit. Though at least for the Samaritan side, you can just easily number their shoulderpads with transfers to coincide with individual cards. Or maybe number the underside of their bases.


I know that's what's really tempting me towards pledging. On one hand I could play it as the normal boardgame(now with campaign rules!), which looks like it would give me what Space Hulk really didn't, and then I can turn all the ranges in the game into inches, and take all my extra troops I'd be getting onto the open table for some Necromunda-esqe skirmish action, where I can get my wargame itch, but with troops that matter individually, rather than just massed groups of one-hit pawns, which is the draining part of 40K for me, lately.

Hi AegisGrimm - there are cards for every miniature in the box - so multiples for all the troops. The way we have been keeping track of them in play testing is to put a small numbered sticker on the base - and a corresponding one on the card. Painting squad numbers on the Samaritan's shoulders is a great idea though

There are now two campaigns - the Outbreak Campaign which comes in the rule book (it's my favourite part of the whole game), and the Quarantine campaign that the 150K stretch goal just triggered

cheers

mike

Very, very cool, Mike.

Not only am I leaning towards this game for the two reasons I stated, but also- the kickstarter date for full-funding is my wedding day! I showed the game(with all the stretch goal stuff) to my fiancee, and she laughed seriously "hinted" that if I give her a Kindle Fire for our wedding, she'll reciprocate in kind by supporting my miniature wargaming addiction.

A question: do you get cards for all the additional minis for the stretch goals? Not that I mind copying and printing out more if we don't, but I'm wondering. If we don't, it'd be cool to see a PDF we could easily print out more with- maybe packaged along with the campaign download.

Speaking of unit cards....

Think there could be a chance of having "blank" card template online or something so if we wanted to, we could make our own additions to the game?

yeah,

We've figured that we should be able to ship within the EU from the UK. Shipping will still cost the same (boo) as we'll need to deal with customs and VAT on your behalf if you're in the EU, and to cover the extra cost of shipping less than a container load for UK fulfillment.

This will mean that you won't have any issues with possible customs queries, additional tax or other hassles, making your Sedition Wars experience that much smoother!

I'm in

Panic...

And with that, they just got my $200.

AegisGrimm wrote:

Not only am I leaning towards this game for the two reasons I stated, but also- the kickstarter date for full-funding is my wedding day! I showed the game(with all the stretch goal stuff) to my fiancee, and she laughed seriously "hinted" that if I give her a Kindle Fire for our wedding, she'll reciprocate in kind by supporting my miniature wargaming addiction.

A question: do you get cards for all the additional minis for the stretch goals? Not that I mind copying and printing out more if we don't, but I'm wondering. If we don't, it'd be cool to see a PDF we could easily print out more with- maybe packaged along with the campaign download.

Congratulations!

Yes - you'll get additional cards for all the stretch miniatures.

mike

Very cool, thank you for sorting all that out Mike! Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on it

kenshin620 wrote:Speaking of unit cards....

Think there could be a chance of having "blank" card template online or something so if we wanted to, we could make our own additions to the game?

great idea. I would second that request

Well, I've really enjoyed everything Studio McVey has put out so far, so, I finally stopped waffling and put my $100 where my mouth is. Good luck, guys-- I'm really looking forward to the end of the year, now.

Fluff dump:

Captains Journal

Kara Black, Captain Command Executive, Vanguard Bastion Arms of Sorrow

Log Classified: Obsidian – Director Clearance only
----------


…Ahem, okay, need to record this. Just in case.

We intercept a distress signal relayed from a comm buoy in synchronous orbit around one of the uncompromised system moons.

We’re not on any rescue detail, so I order my Signal tech officer to log it, store it, and we’ll check when we can. Our section of the armada is focused on a Firebrand orbital platform that has been putting up some heavy resistance. Bigger catch to fry, right?

Arms of Sorrow is splitting fire and flashing in-system at a steady heading. I’ve got two dozen drop-ships ready and loaded for breach. The plan is tactical insertion via bulwark t-cast. Might drain the drive, but it gets us inside the envelope of the platform. From there drop-ships assault the central control facility, we might lose a handful, but we’re spooled to full cortical backup, any casualties are up and in the fight faster than cooking a casserole.

Three hours into mission approach I get a Solcom directive mission order, and a beam cast straight from Coreworld Admin.

Looks like that distress signal I ignored was related to an incident on some deep science SSD out on the Alabaster nebular plenum – a biohazard breach. Solcom directive is clear on this, we need to get the remaining science team out if possible, and THEN contain the breach. You don’t ignore orders from that high up, even if you’re in the middle of a war. I’m not going out like Gheried did.

So we turn and burn, full drives to get there and iron out this matter so we can get back into the fight. About halfway there I realize something that gives me the shivers, we were the only Bastion that intercepted the signal. No one else got it.

But it gets better. We’ve been orbiting the facility for twenty minutes manoeuvring under inertial thrusters only.

We’re not raising any coherent signal from within the facility, except for a low energy hum that has all kinds of weirdness about it.

Firebrand and mercenary ships have been thick in this area only a few days ago, so I want to keep a low profile. T-cast is too visible, and a hull breach is low class. We’re going in full ninja.

I’m ordering a cadre of Samaritans and some specialized personnel to gain a foothold. Scans verify that we’ve got a good chance at accessing one of the outer docking bays.

I’ve got one of my best Combat Medics leading the first excursion – he’ll be able to nail the nature of the biohazard pretty fast. He’s used to spooky ops too, an advantage when you’re this far out of Solcom oversight. “The edge of the Edge”.

Commodore Grist is in charge of the Arms of Sorrow while I lead the boarding and rescue party. Crisis teams are assembled, and I’m planning on being a part of this op, just so I can see first-hand how critical this mission is. I don’t like being pulled out of a combat mission to go into this kind of night country. This reads Solcom core director board all over it. If they’re involved …

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

This is Captain Kara Black, signing out.

Nice fiction. It's pretty atmospheric...

Nice reading. I like the jargon, just out there enough to make a reader feel like a voyeur in a conversation he/she wasn't mean't to hear

Is this fan fiction or something "official"?

I have another question, it might be dumb.

I can't seem to find any info about when this game ships?


I know when the Kickstarter ends, but....

A: When will the game get shipped to me if I pledge?
B: Will all the stretch goal extras come at the same time?

AegisGrimm wrote:I have another question, it might be dumb.

I can't seem to find any info about when this game ships?


I know when the Kickstarter ends, but....

A: When will the game get shipped to me if I pledge?
B: Will all the stretch goal extras come at the same time?

Under each pledge it has the estimated ship date (month)

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Delephont wrote:Nice reading. I like the jargon, just out there enough to make a reader feel like a voyeur in a conversation he/she wasn't mean't to hear

Is this fan fiction or something "official"?

Depends - is something posted by Mike on the Studio McVey blog (then cross-posted to the Kickstarter and to here) fan fiction?

Almost @ 170k, wonder what comes next.

The journal is from the Kickstarter updates.

Dysartes wrote:

Delephont wrote:Nice reading. I like the jargon, just out there enough to make a reader feel like a voyeur in a conversation he/she wasn't mean't to hear

Is this fan fiction or something "official"?

Depends - is something posted by Mike on the Studio McVey blog (then cross-posted to the Kickstarter and to here) fan fiction?

I've seen it for the first time in this thread, so I wasn't sure where it came from. Some of us have lives off the web you know.

No need to snap at others like that..

BrookM wrote:No need to snap at others like that..

If that comment was aimed at me (?), then be aware that I'll happy show courtesy to those who are courteous to me.

Actually, you have to show courtesy to everyone, no matter what. If they are discourteous to you, then you hit the Mod alert button and we deal with it. Otherwise you are just as guilty of rule breaking as they are and will be treated accordingly.

I hope that clears up your misunderstanding of the site rules? Thanks - MT11

Would love to see 'infection' versions of the characters as stretch goal targets.

Delephont wrote:

Dysartes wrote:

Delephont wrote:Nice reading. I like the jargon, just out there enough to make a reader feel like a voyeur in a conversation he/she wasn't mean't to hear

Is this fan fiction or something "official"?

Depends - is something posted by Mike on the Studio McVey blog (then cross-posted to the Kickstarter and to here) fan fiction?

Some of us have lives off the web you know.

I call fallacy on this one. How could anyone but Delephont have a life off the web?? I mean, I thought we were all some kind of pseudo-cybernetic life form that spends our lives plugged into these computers and has never left out desks and faithful PCs.

Why is my world being turned upside down?

Facts used to be facts.

Now some people have lives off the web.

I'm scared... this is a scary revelation. Should we be telling the whole wide world about the world wide web!?!

Moopy wrote:
Also, if you REALLY want a good kickstarter- you'll make most of the additions "kickstarter" only. People want things that are exclusive. There's less thrill in when you read "all boxes get X" instead of "Kickstarter boxes get X".

You know, at some point I think it stops mattering all that much. Sure, there are records to break, and that's all nice, but what does that mean for the future of the game, really?

I mean, breaking kickstarter records can only mean so much for a game. One trouble, if you make the kickstarter into such an amazing deal, will people feel cheated when they see the game in the store for 89.99? Even if it is also a good deal?

And if the game gets super funded through kickstarter, but then no one picks up a copy after it has come out, it will be a bomb. You definitely want people who missed out on the kickstarter to hear about the game and get excited, rather than feeling like they missed their only chance to get all the stuff they wanted.


Another thing, I doubt that they're going to release anything for the Sedition Wars kickstarter that is truly game changing. What I mean by that is every one of the minis with rules here will be available separately (at some point). That way, the people who bought the kickstarter aren't playing a different game from people who waited. They just got a better deal, with better rattle value.

I'm honestly more interested in the non-exclusive upgrades to the game. Sure, I'd love to have an extra tank or Grendlr, but I'd also love to see more plastic counters. And I've heard that there are counters to represent gun emplacements- having those upgraded into minis would be fantastic.

@odinsgrandson agreed

Delephont wrote:

BrookM wrote:No need to snap at others like that..

If that comment was aimed at me (?), then be aware that I'll happy show courtesy to those who are courteous to me.

Actually, you have to show courtesy to everyone, no matter what. If they are discourteous to you, then you hit the Mod alert button and we deal with it. Otherwise you are just as guilty of rule breaking as they are and will be treated accordingly.

I hope that clears up your misunderstanding of the site rules? Thanks - MT11

Just a little reminder in case anyone missed it, although generally the thread seems to be going pretty well

Actually, you have to show courtesy to everyone, no matter what. If they are discourteous to you, then you hit the Mod alert button and we deal with it. Otherwise you are just as guilty of rule breaking as they are and will be treated accordingly.

I hope that clears up your misunderstanding of the site rules? Thanks - MT11

Fair enough, point taken. Just a shame you couldn't have stepped in earlier. I'll leave it at that.

Hard to know what is going on and step in if the Mod Alert button isn't hit, but point taken

Thank you very much though for the friendly manner in which you took the message, it is much appreciated. We just want to keep things calm, and I personally would hate to see this thread go off the rails as I am excited for Mike and Ali. I realize you were not the sole participant, which is why I posted a public 'chill out' as opposed to a private one.

So, thank you again for your tone and comportment!

Back OT, we are very near the 170 mark and the reveal of the next stretch, lookin good!

odinsgrandson wrote:

Moopy wrote:
Also, if you REALLY want a good kickstarter- you'll make most of the additions "kickstarter" only. People want things that are exclusive. There's less thrill in when you read "all boxes get X" instead of "Kickstarter boxes get X".

You know, at some point I think it stops mattering all that much. Sure, there are records to break, and that's all nice, but what does that mean for the future of the game, really?

I mean, breaking kickstarter records can only mean so much for a game. One trouble, if you make the kickstarter into such an amazing deal, will people feel cheated when they see the game in the store for 89.99? Even if it is also a good deal?

And if the game gets super funded through kickstarter, but then no one picks up a copy after it has come out, it will be a bomb. You definitely want people who missed out on the kickstarter to hear about the game and get excited, rather than feeling like they missed their only chance to get all the stuff they wanted.


Another thing, I doubt that they're going to release anything for the Sedition Wars kickstarter that is truly game changing. What I mean by that is every one of the minis with rules here will be available separately (at some point). That way, the people who bought the kickstarter aren't playing a different game from people who waited. They just got a better deal, with better rattle value.

I'm honestly more interested in the non-exclusive upgrades to the game. Sure, I'd love to have an extra tank or Grendlr, but I'd also love to see more plastic counters. And I've heard that there are counters to represent gun emplacements- having those upgraded into minis would be fantastic.

I totally agree with this. It's all well and good having a successful kickstarter. But it's pointless if you don't sell games afterwards. I would like to see future stretch goals being stuff that improves the game for everyone. Like plastic tokens etc. Or things that will mean they will be able to start thinking about what is happening with future expansions and what will go in that box or being able to release individual squads separately to the game.

Potentially if this kickstarter is successful enough it might mean that they won't need to kickstart the expansions...

I know where some people are getting at, and it's not exactly like we can get stuff from future expansions with the initial kickstarter. As cool as that might be, it's not in any way feasible.

In all reality, the 100 dollar point is getting things like more infantry for each side because they will already be producing them with the dies that are already in production/already produced and awaiting the "go-ahead and produce" order. That way they don't need anything new to be produced, just extras of certain parts of the manufacturing process that would otherwise go into making complete game sets.

It's not like they're going to overextend themselves and make the dies for figs for a future expansion before the initial game is even out, just to service the fans using kickstarter right now. All the extra stuff is essentially just a swag bag of isolated extras they are already producing to entice us to get out and do what is basically a preorder, rather than waiting for the retail release. And, frankly- that's perfectly ok with me.

I would even be very surprised if the kickstarter campaign getting high enough to give us things like plastic tokens and the under-base status disks will even be exclusive to the kickstarter at all, or if they will spill over into the retail version as a result of hitting goals. The kickstarter and it's stretch-goals are an easy way of judging how much fans want such things, as opposed to cardboard tokens.

Zwan1One wrote:I totally agree with this. It's all well and good having a successful kickstarter. But it's pointless if you don't sell games afterwards. I would like to see future stretch goals being stuff that improves the game for everyone. Like plastic tokens etc. Or things that will mean they will be able to start thinking about what is happening with future expansions and what will go in that box or being able to release individual squads separately to the game.

I know I'd like that, or the option to pay $5-10 extra for the Biohazard level to swap out the models I don't want for more of the models I do want.

But on the other side... it's hard to be picky with the selection of a boatload of stuff above and beyond the base game that's essentially free.

AegisGrimm wrote:I would even be very surprised if the kickstarter campaign getting high enough to give us things like plastic tokens and the under-base status disks will even be exclusive to the kickstarter at all, or if they will spill over into the retail version as a result of hitting goals. The kickstarter and it's stretch-goals are an easy way of judging how much fans want such things, as opposed to cardboard tokens.

I'm pretty sure that they've said that certain goals apply to every copy of the game, even the non-KS ones. I *think* the tokens, variant sculpts and Barker Zosa qualify under that heading, but I'm not 100% sure.

Dysartes wrote:

AegisGrimm wrote:I would even be very surprised if the kickstarter campaign getting high enough to give us things like plastic tokens and the under-base status disks will even be exclusive to the kickstarter at all, or if they will spill over into the retail version as a result of hitting goals. The kickstarter and it's stretch-goals are an easy way of judging how much fans want such things, as opposed to cardboard tokens.

I'm pretty sure that they've said that certain goals apply to every copy of the game, even the non-KS ones. I *think* the tokens, variant sculpts and Barker Zosa qualify under that heading, but I'm not 100% sure.

That was definitely my impression as well.

We do have to remember, the purpose of Kickstarter isn't really that the people that get in on the ground floor get amazing stuff... it's the opportunity to see products that might otherwise not make it to retail actually make it to retail. It's crowd-sourced venture capitol. All that said, I don't think we can doubt we're getting a heck of a good return; I am at Biohazard level, and at that you get, what, 75 minis for that, including 2-3 resin alternates?

I'm not, by any means, complaining. But think of this in contrast to something like LEVEL 7: the real goal of kickstarter and backing it now is so that when it ships to stores, it's justifying it's price tag (which, at $90, is considerable). The base set coming with 50 minis (51?) is the best way to be certain that this is just the first in a line of equally awesome offerings from McVey.

Heh, of course, it's also spoiled me... with deals like this on kickstarter, it's hard to get excited when the local has a sale on regular stuff, heh!

We's gettin dice, son!

Woot! Keeps going and going doesn't it

Looking forward to the next goal. IF this keeps up it'll hit over 300k easy. Which is solid capital to get this going. I'd like to see:

-More Tiles
-More of the Heavies
-All plastic game tokens
-Infected Character models
-Some custom Resin Mini's only Kickstarters have access to at first (naturally he'd sell them later)

Project Update #18: Choices, choices, choices.....
Posted by CoolMiniOrNot Like

Here are some optional items you can add to your pledge, just increase it by the appropriate amount and we'll send you a survey after the Kickstarter concludes so you can pick what you'd like. Do note the differing shipping times on some of the options.

Dice Pack - Everyone needs more dice right? Each Biohazard set already includes a set of 6, but get another set (or 3)! Ships together with the Quarantine Zone and Biohazard rewards (expected November).

Terrain Pack - This was meant to be a set of resin models sold individually to "bling" out Alabaster station, but with the overwhelming response we've decided to tool it in plastic and give you a 100% complete upgrade! Check out what you get below, SEVENTY pieces of terrain! This is expected to ship in March 2013, ships free anywhere in the world.

And of course....

Against all odds, Dr Susan Ridley has survived on Alabaster Station. Seemingly uninfected by the Strain, and with a completely shell-shocked orphan in tow, perhaps the doctor can provide the Vanguard team some insight as to what the hell is happening! $10, and Dr Ridley can lend her expertise to your team! In sculpting now, and expected to ship in March. Dr Ridley is promotional figure and will be available only on Kickstarter and at conventions.

And now, our next stretch goal!

Mmm... it appears the good doctor wasn't as healthy as she first appeared! Or is this an insidious copy designed to sow doubt and despair amongst the Vanguard?

If we hit this stretch, every unit of Dr Ridley will ship with a Strain infected version of her! Ships at the same time as Dr Ridley!

Ninja'd!

My question is, if I add to my pledge the 30 bucks and the 10 bucks for the extra items (terrain and Ripley, uh, Ridley), how will you know what I 'ordered'?

Got that in email, haven't updated the kickstarter page yet, but I am super curious about the terrain


Check and Mate, my friend

odinsgrandson wrote:
I mean, breaking kickstarter records can only mean so much for a game. One trouble, if you make the kickstarter into such an amazing deal, will people feel cheated when they see the game in the store for 89.99? Even if it is also a good deal?

And if the game gets super funded through kickstarter, but then no one picks up a copy after it has come out, it will be a bomb. You definitely want people who missed out on the kickstarter to hear about the game and get excited, rather than feeling like they missed their only chance to get all the stuff they wanted.

Another thing, I doubt that they're going to release anything for the Sedition Wars kickstarter that is truly game changing. What I mean by that is every one of the minis with rules here will be available separately (at some point). That way, the people who bought the kickstarter aren't playing a different game from people who waited. They just got a better deal, with better rattle value.

I'm honestly more interested in the non-exclusive upgrades to the game. Sure, I'd love to have an extra tank or Grendlr, but I'd also love to see more plastic counters. And I've heard that there are counters to represent gun emplacements- having those upgraded into minis would be fantastic.

Dunno. I missed out on the Zombiepocalpyse (or whatever it's called) one. If it's still a good deal, I'll be willing to buy it. Sure, everyone is online these days, but not everyone on the net is following Kickstarter. if a game is super funded through KS and then bombs at retail, it's probably not all that awesome a game in the end. Besides, it appears to me that most of the SW stretch goals are changing what comes in the base game, whether you buy at retail in 2013 or get on the KS train now. The differences seem to be in the extras like more minis etc.

It's like the bastard reads my mind! This is pretty darn awesome! $150 Donation here I come. Got to have Ripley....Ridley, extra dice to make 12 (how many I use in 40k), and the terrain is so darned reasonable!

Just because

MajorTom11 wrote:Ninja'd!

My question is, if I add to my pledge the 30 bucks and the 10 bucks for the extra items (terrain and Ripley, uh, Ridley), how will you know what I 'ordered'?

From what I've seen, when a Kickstarter wraps up they send you an email/survey thingy, and you can just tell them what you want.
My concern with this next stretch goal is that it is seemingly an upgrade for an optional upgrade - which I will probably get, but still.

It's in the updates section of the page. I'd like to see more pics of them as I'd potentially be interested in 2 terrain packs. "Bling out" my Space Hulks and every other space corridor game as well. I just want to see more concept art and scale first, though.

Allright, they got another 40 bucks out of me.

WOW!!!

Ridley and the dice are cool, but I'm not sure I'd get them. Ridley as a strong possibility, but dice are dice, and you are already getting normal dice with the base game, plus the 6 "special" die.

But the terrain packs? You 'd almost have to be stupid not to get those. I'd say 30 bucks was a huge steal for that many resin pieces, but all in plastic???

Sucks that Ridley and the terrain are not till march, though. It'd already be a 5-month wait for SW, and then 4 months more for terrain......

I'm just a sucker for custom dice. And I always try and do sets of twelve (it's the ocd gamer in me). Which means that the additional 6 are perfect for me.

As for the waiting on the terrain I'm glad he's going to be able to provide that as an upsell to the game for the more hardcore/inclined. It's a great addition and the extra 4 months seems cool to me. It'll be like an extra gift I didn't know was coming

Basically just pre-paying for the extras. The terrain pack is nice.

I'll have to think about it, but it's definitely an option.

Wow, the terrain pack is amazing, 70 pieces for $30?! It looks like it may be close to the perfect scale to do double duty for games of Infinity too.

My wallet, the pain!

Sounds like a whole load of awesome. Updated front page

Wait a minute...if I get the terrain and the new fig thats $140. Same as my zombiecide pledge ITS A CONSPIRACY!

Although, the entire "Get a Survivor/Infected Survivor" is getting a zombiecide vibe to it anyways

Hmm... need to find $40 more in my budget...

Wow, probably getting the terrain, 100% getting the doctor!

Oh, I think this is new also, a new 2k pledge

Boot Camp - You and a friend get a day of personal instruction on painting from Mike and Ali McVey at their studio in Sheffield, England! You also get 2 x Biohazard sets (unpainted), and 1 character (of your choice) painted by Studio McVey! You'll need to figure out how to get to Sheffield on your own though. Please add $40 for international shipping.

Between this and Mantic...I may just have to wait to get the terrain. My wallet needs to heal for a while.

Over 5k in 2 hours. Me thinks people like these new things

So let me get this straight,

If i pledge biohazard (about £80.00 inc shipping) i get

The game
Signed Print
24 extra figs
Funky Patch
And a Resin Kara (ltd edition)

WHO DO I HAVE TO KILL??

i think i shall be pledging come payday......

I need to have the meme of Fry saying shut up and take my money bookmarked for moments like this.

Looks like I have to find some things to sell off, because I suddenly need to find an extra 50 bucks for that week.

It may be that works browser is a pile of gak but i cant see how you pay? Do they do paypal?

Considering the vast majority of pledges are the same as me (over a thousand people at $100) and the fact that I cant see many people not adding $40 for the terrain and the two Ridley models because they look so awesome and its such a good deal, then I think its safe to say that even without any new buyers they will make another $50,000 just off the existing pledges alone!

Rest assured, they will break all the current stretches anyway!

Love the artwork for the Ridley models as well, the strain infected one looks suitably grim.


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DiabolicAl wrote:It may be that works browser is a pile of gak but i cant see how you pay? Do they do paypal?

Its through Amazon mate, so if you have ever bought anything off them (who hasn't?!) then your ready to rock.

DiabolicAl wrote:It may be that works browser is a pile of gak but i cant see how you pay? Do they do paypal?

It is credit card through amazon.com

sparkywtf wrote:

DiabolicAl wrote:It may be that works browser is a pile of gak but i cant see how you pay? Do they do paypal?

It is credit card through amazon.com

Yeah and everyone knows if its on your credit card its technically free right? I can up my pledge every time they release a new model!

....

Hang on, there appears to be a large debt collector at my door with a hammer.. what can he want this early?

As for the waiting on the terrain I'm glad he's going to be able to provide that as an upsell to the game for the more hardcore/inclined. It's a great addition and the extra 4 months seems cool to me. It'll be like an extra gift I didn't know was coming

Oh, I said the wait sucks....not that I won't seriously think about it.

The terrain is awesome for the same reason as the extra minis- I can use them for more than just the basic boardgame. Just like I may have to kitbash some skirmish rules using the basic SW rules to play some skirmish-level Humans vs. Strain games, the terrain would make very cool objective markers/interactive scenery for the same thing.

Hell, I'm almost wondering what I can get for a opened but perfect condition copy of Space Hulk, and preorder a copy of SW+terrain with the money. It certainly looks more widely useable to me than Space Hulk, which frankly, I have never even gotten around to playing.

I added 40 bucks for the terraign and the figure of the Dr. Where are the selections for the choices for them?

Grot 6 wrote:I added 40 bucks for the terraign and the figure of the Dr. Where are the selections for the choices for them?

You don't have to worry about it mate, just stick with Biohazard at 100, then add the 40 manually in the box at the top, and they will send a survey round at completion.

Guess I'm topping this order off with an additional $40 as well, good morning!

odinsgrandson wrote:I mean, breaking kickstarter records can only mean so much for a game. One trouble, if you make the kickstarter into such an amazing deal, will people feel cheated when they see the game in the store for 89.99? Even if it is also a good deal?

And if the game gets super funded through kickstarter, but then no one picks up a copy after it has come out, it will be a bomb. You definitely want people who missed out on the kickstarter to hear about the game and get excited, rather than feeling like they missed their only chance to get all the stuff they wanted.

Well said. I want to buy this game when it comes out, but if I get effectively ripped off for not having $100+ to back the Kickstarter right now and I miss out on twice the models and all that other stuff then I would probably just pass on it.

I'm already thinking about it because I fething love that "Ridley" figure, and that is Kickstarter only. If I can't back this thing (with Dropzone Commander coming out soon I kinda need to start saving anyway) and I miss out on that little extra I just might be pissed off enough to say feth the whole thing!

The terrain pack: awesome idea, by the way. Probably overpriced at $40 MSRP, I don't know, but it sounds like a really cool idea and if I do get the game I'm definitely getting that to go with it.

Damn you McVey!

*finds an extra $40*

Ahh, there goes the wallet. Easy Come Easy Go...

Sidstyler wrote:I'm already thinking about it because I fething love that "Ridley" figure, and that is Kickstarter only. If I can't back this thing (with Dropzone Commander coming out soon I kinda need to start saving anyway) and I miss out on that little extra I just might be pissed off enough to say feth the whole thing!

Kickstarter or convention only, so if you see Studio McVey at a show you'd be able to get her.

Sidstyler wrote:The terrain pack: awesome idea, by the way. Probably overpriced at $40 MSRP, I don't know, but it sounds like a really cool idea and if I do get the game I'm definitely getting that to go with it.

$40 for 70 pieces is probably overpriced? You're going to get a lot of use out of those components when playing.

Are the models single part casts only, or multiple? Was wondering as I wouldn't mind doing a few different poses for the troops in the box.

yeah,
And so it begins!

Bumped mine $40...

The Kickstart grand total is now at $182,868

Panic...

Panic wrote:yeah,
And so it begins!

Bumped mine $40...

The Kickstart grand total is now at $182,868

Panic...

Aye, as I said, its gonna fething fly up now, I cant see many people not sticking the extra $40 on top to get the scenery and Rippers model.

The terrain, extra model and new stretch goal is an inspired piece of business... That'll be another $40 from me too!

Dysartes wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:I'm already thinking about it because I fething love that "Ridley" figure, and that is Kickstarter only. If I can't back this thing (with Dropzone Commander coming out soon I kinda need to start saving anyway) and I miss out on that little extra I just might be pissed off enough to say feth the whole thing!

Kickstarter or convention only, so if you see Studio McVey at a show you'd be able to get her.

Well I don't have money to go to cons so it would have to be this or eBay. And I bet you anything people will try to milk the feth out of those figures on eBay...if I had to guess ambitious sellers would probably be listing them for $30-50 each simply because it's god-damned Ripley and because of its exclusivity.

Dysartes wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:The terrain pack: awesome idea, by the way. Probably overpriced at $40 MSRP, I don't know, but it sounds like a really cool idea and if I do get the game I'm definitely getting that to go with it.

$40 for 70 pieces is probably overpriced? You're going to get a lot of use out of those components when playing.

Well, like I said, I was kind of unsure about that...probably overpriced, I don't know...at first glance it was slightly off-putting, but it's not really that bad of a deal in hindsight. I could see myself waiting until the general release and buying that at $40 without kicking myself too hard for it.

It just seemed like a lot of money to spend on a board game at first, but seeing as how I could probably have more fun playing this than Space Hulk (in my opinion the figures are WAY nicer and I'm actually kind of eager to try and paint some up, haven't felt that way about a model release in a long time), I can see myself doing it. I still got 20 days so I'll probably chip in and support this.

Fenriswulf wrote:Are the models single part casts only, or multiple? Was wondering as I wouldn't mind doing a few different poses for the troops in the box.

Generally speaking, I think they're multi-part figures - I think the Samaritans are meant to be in two parts (body & gun), and larger models will be in more pieces.

They got my extra 40 bucks too... and seeing how close this is to 190k, I'm not the only one increasing their pledge

Damn! DAMN! No money for this sort of thing, I will save some pennies and next year at Salute I will get some of those things... I'm looking at Ripley!!!!!!!!

Really on the fence about this still.

Pro:
1. It's great value at about £81 delivered.
2. The game looks fun
3. Get to be smug if I meet people who buy it on release

Con:
1. More excited about 6th edition 40K, don't have money for both.
2. This kickstarter effectively rules out the possibility that I'd buy this on release, so it has to be backed or ignored. (I'd feel like I was being ripped off if I bought it later with half the figs)
3. Don't actually have anyone to play this with + every game I did manage to play would basically be an introductory 'How to play an obscure board game' session.

Sidstyler wrote:

odinsgrandson wrote:I mean, breaking kickstarter records can only mean so much for a game. One trouble, if you make the kickstarter into such an amazing deal, will people feel cheated when they see the game in the store for 89.99? Even if it is also a good deal?

And if the game gets super funded through kickstarter, but then no one picks up a copy after it has come out, it will be a bomb. You definitely want people who missed out on the kickstarter to hear about the game and get excited, rather than feeling like they missed their only chance to get all the stuff they wanted.

Well said. I want to buy this game when it comes out, but if I get effectively ripped off for not having $100+ to back the Kickstarter right now and I miss out on twice the models and all that other stuff then I would probably just pass on it.

I'm already thinking about it because I fething love that "Ridley" figure, and that is Kickstarter only. If I can't back this thing (with Dropzone Commander coming out soon I kinda need to start saving anyway) and I miss out on that little extra I just might be pissed off enough to say feth the whole thing!

The terrain pack: awesome idea, by the way. Probably overpriced at $40 MSRP, I don't know, but it sounds like a really cool idea and if I do get the game I'm definitely getting that to go with it.

Terrain pack is $30 - $40 is terrain + ripley.

Bromsy wrote:

Terrain pack is $30 - $40 is terrain + ripley.

After the Kickstarter, the Terrain will be $40

I wonder if McVey has enough time to read through all of these new posts though, I am a bit curious to know HOW BIG the terrain is. I mean I guess I can understand why its 70 pieces if most of these are like half as big as your average 28mm figure

Dysartes wrote:

Sidstyler wrote:I'm already thinking about it because I fething love that "Ridley" figure, and that is Kickstarter only. If I can't back this thing (with Dropzone Commander coming out soon I kinda need to start saving anyway) and I miss out on that little extra I just might be pissed off enough to say feth the whole thing!

Kickstarter or convention only, so if you see Studio McVey at a show you'd be able to get her.

Sidstyler wrote:The terrain pack: awesome idea, by the way. Probably overpriced at $40 MSRP, I don't know, but it sounds like a really cool idea and if I do get the game I'm definitely getting that to go with it.

$40 for 70 pieces is probably overpriced? You're going to get a lot of use out of those components when playing.

To be fair, we haven't seen a full set of pictures for the terrain, nor do we know what size they will be or the end quality. I'm still likely down for 2 sets, though, but I'm a terrain who-er.
I do see your point though. $40 RRP with probably $4 off from a lot of retailers makes it not that much of a difference.

I'll probably make my choices in the last 2 days or so. Who knows what else will be revealed between now and then, and I'm not going to be able to come up with an extra $150 for more optional extras over my planned "We've got Movement" set.

scipio.au wrote:

I'll probably make my choices in the last 2 days or so. Who knows what else will be revealed between now and then, and I'm not going to be able to come up with an extra $150 for more optional extras over my planned "We've got Movement" set.

Yea I must admit if this gets too crazy expensive with extras, I might opt for a We Got Movement set instead. Give one to a friend or keep them both!

We're rocketing up now. Nearing the 190k. I bet Mike can hardly believe his eyes at the current scale of funding!

At this rate we'll hit 190 by the hour. Looking forward to the next stretch goal.

N/M. Hit it already....

That was quick... 20k in what, 10 hours?

Eagerly waiting for the next update!

I know some people are miffed at the Ridley figure and the terrain being "kickstarter-only", and they feel as they are getting screwed by not being able to afford the $100 level. But as far as I know it's not like they are requiring you to back at one of the higher levels to gain access to buying the extra stuff.

I've never done a kickstarter before, but it seems like you only have to pledge to be able buy the extras, and a minimum pledge is $1....... so Ridley is technically $11, and the terrain is $31, right?

I suspect the terrain set will be available to buy seperately after release anyway. The MSRP note of $40 on the banner hints at this. The $30 is a kickstarter special price. Also, can't you just pledge $10 without selecting a reward and when the survey comes round, select Dr Ridley?

AegisGrimm wrote:
I've never done a kickstarter before, but it seems like you only have to pledge to be able buy the extras, and a minimum pledge is $1....... so Ridley is technically $11, and the terrain is $31, right?

Arent min pledges a bit moot since you're pledging money anyways?

Might have to wait for McVey to clarify this though

The terrain will be separate won't it? I thought I read that it was going to be an add on resin kit, but now they're gonna do it in plastic and sell it $10 cheaper for KS backers?

Arent min pledges a bit moot since you're pledging money anyways?

As far as I know, no. You can start at $1, and go as far as you can afford. The whole point of kickstarter is that rewards are "supposed" to be just prizes for pledging certain amounts of money in support to a company, rather than an $80 level being effectively a preorder of the game. The latter is just how we are seeing it, because that's what it basically turned into.

I've also heard several people say that they can't afford the game right now in particular, but will be able to get it later at retail, but are bummed at not being able to get the "kickstarter only" stuff because of that. I offered the idea of just doing the minimum bid to get the terrain/Ridley, and then getting the game at retail later on when it releases.

I think they didnt think they would get up that high so fast! The latest update doesnt have a stretch goal just yet. Though there is a nifty avatar supporter image

New stretch goal:

Each Biohazard set will get FOUR extra Phase 3 Strain models, 2 each of the Scythe Witch and Brimstone! I hope those Las-Carbines are fully charged....

Yay more big things

I think the other side is gonna need more tanks

Good god. Gimme a tank or two extra, and SW will truly be a two-pack of boardgame/wargame.

IIRC, Hurley is meant to be a match for the Phase IV or V forms, and concentrated firepower from the normal troops should be able to deal with Phase I-III stuff.

We might see an additional Hurley at some point, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it packaged alongside a second Grendlr & Cthonian.

You'd have to be out of your mind not to spring the extra $20 for biohazard by now

It's nice to see they fit on their bases properly. The bases on the resin ones were a little small.

Terrain and a new model?

*adds $40*

$200k mark reached - by my calculations, that's 1,000% to target...

I was afraid they'd start doing add-on stuff. Great way to crank up the funding.. I really wanna get the other stuff, but I'll have to hold off and just stick to my $100 pledge. Already dropped $100 on Ogre, $125 on Dropzone.. starting to all add up now. But then, my GF usually gets me a $100 amazon card for my bday which is in a week or so ... hmm...

$30 for all that terrain is one hell of a bargain - I'd expect those gun emplacements alone to be $10 or so from a lot of places...

Thank god my job starts in a few weeks

MajorTom11 wrote:That was quick... 20k in what, 10 hours?

When stretch goals involve miniatures, people bid in droves.

Exactly!

That's what really drove Zombicide up to ridiculous levels and it will wire the same wonders here too!

I posted said comment on the Kickstarter page. Lets hope we see more of this- it's the only investment (other than my education) that's paying off!

Will the terrain be plastic? If so, is it only the kickstarter terrain or will the wide release version also be plastic?

BobtheInquisitor wrote:Will the terrain be plastic? If so, is it only the kickstarter terrain or will the wide release version also be plastic?

It says so on the post

Terrain Pack - This was meant to be a set of resin models sold individually to "bling" out Alabaster station, but with the overwhelming response we've decided to tool it in plastic and give you a 100% complete upgrade! Check out what you get below, SEVENTY pieces of terrain! This is expected to ship in March 2013, ships free anywhere in the world.

BobtheInquisitor wrote:Will the terrain be plastic? If so, is it only the kickstarter terrain or will the wide release version also be plastic?

Plastic.

Selling for 30, and picture says MSRP is 40, so I would assume it will be a wide release

I will be increasing my contribution to 240 bucks because I'm pathetic and have no self control.

AegisGrimm wrote:Good god. Gimme a tank or two extra, and SW will truly be a two-pack of boardgame/wargame.

As it is, this is already well worth buying for both Dark Eldar and Imperial Guard players, just for the miniatures.

The Strain would be excellent for Wracks and Grotesques, and possibly some of the Warp Beasts too - the barbed, segmented armour is a perfect fit.

Whereas Imperial Guard would end up with a nice selection of Veteran or Stormtrooper models.

In both cases, the Sedition Wars models look better and are cheaper than the official finecast models, even if you only use half the biohazard set.

This thing is easily going to end up with over 100 miniatures for $100 by the time the dust settles.

Less than a grand to go! Whoop! lol

According to Kicktraq: http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/coolminiornot/sedition-wars-battle-for-alabaster/

.. this made $32,129 yesterday.

Great big massive surge all of a sudden!

Looks like encouraging existing backers to add extra stuff works out well as a trigger to make these things really start to skyrocket.

If this keeps up, it'll start to be on track to go as crazy as Zombicide or Ogre.

Sedition Wars' daily take is higher than Zombicide's was (on average). What was interesting about Zombicide is that it made nearly 150K for three days in a row - the final three days.

Hi Guys

Been finding it hard to find the time to jump on here in the past few days - apologies for that.

I'll try and answer a few points.

The terrain is going to be the same high-quality plastic as the miniatures themselves. It will be available as a box set after the game comes out - so it's not a KS exclusive. The individual pieces are designed to replace counters in the game - so the doors will be approx 50mm wide if they are double (two squares on the board) and 25mm wide for single (one square). Other pieces are designed to replace counters that fit in a single square, so will have a footprint of no larger than 25mm. So the Exo-cyct and Gestation Vent will be tall and narrow, with a roughly circular foot-print. The Havok gun will be something that will fit inside the confines of a 25mm square too.

Some pieces will be a little larger as they fit on more squares.

With the Ridley miniature, we wanted her to be specific to KS for a couple of reasons - but mainly as she is a promo piece, rather than a part of the Sedition Wars IP. I'm cool with doing things that are references to popular culture (it's fun!), but unless there are compelling reasons for them to be a permanent part of the story, I'd rather keep them on the edges. The Ridley figure is a cool thing to do (for obvious reasons), but she's not part of what the universe is about. She will be available after KS at conventions - so any shows that either Studio McVey or CMON are attending. We'll do a card for her, but we won't be adding her in any 'official' way to the universe.

Make sense?

mike

Sounds good mike. .
Oh and "ding "
Target reached lol

Genius. It hit it's new target so fast that he didn't have time to put the 210 stretch goal on the project main page, just the updates section.

Looking forward to what's next

Updated the front, again. This train cannot be stopped!

Can't wait to see the 230k stretch goal.

I just got an email to say that the next stretch will be related to the Solo player campaign they are currently working on

Well this is a nice thing to wake up to.... 2 Witches and Brimstones! In a manner of speaking of course.

Unlocked! Each Biohazard set will get FOUR extra Phase 3 Strain models, 2 each of theScythe Witch and Brimstone! I hope those Las-Carbines are fully charged....

And now.... at the request of a lot of our Backers, we're working on a free solo campaign which we're gonna call "Lights Out". We should have more details today and a unique stretch goal associated with it. Stay tuned....

Time to put my money where my mouth is, but I've never done this before so I have a question:

I live in Europe, and I wan't to pledge at the Biohazard level, do I pledge 100$ and the extra 25$ shipping cost is automatically added to it or do I need to pledge 125$ directly?

PhantomViper wrote:Time to put my money where my mouth is, but I've never done this before so I have a question:

I live in Europe, and I wan't to pledge at the Biohazard level, do I pledge 100$ and the extra 25$ shipping cost is automatically added to it or do I need to pledge 125$ directly?

You need to add the $25 on your pledge level. so for Biohazard level is $125. Good to see another Portuguese buying the set .

Don't forget to add in the additional $40 on top of that fro "Riddley" and the Terrain set!

(And, being of Portuguese decent myself - go Portugal!)

@Bacms and @Alpharius: Thank you very much for your replies.

Unfortunately, "Ripley" and the terrain set are not an option at this time, with the 125$ Biohazard plus the Stormwall, my wallet is crying enough as it is this month!

PhantomViper wrote:@Bacms and @Alpharius: Thank you very much for your replies.

Unfortunately, "Ripley" and the terrain set are not an option at this time, with the 125$ Biohazard plus the Stormwall, my wallet is crying enough as it is this month!

I am on the same page. First thought the game seems nice and it is not expensive. But I already upgraded it to the biohazard level, now adding more on top of that is too much. As much as I feel that the terrain set is a steal. That would mean ending up spending twice as much as I firstly planned

Bacms wrote:

PhantomViper wrote:@Bacms and @Alpharius: Thank you very much for your replies.

Unfortunately, "Ripley" and the terrain set are not an option at this time, with the 125$ Biohazard plus the Stormwall, my wallet is crying enough as it is this month!

I am on the same page. First thought the game seems nice and it is not expensive. But I already upgraded it to the biohazard level, now adding more on top of that is too much. As much as I feel that the resin terrain set is a steal. That would mean ending up spending twice as much as I firstly planned

Its plastic, not resin terrain

Though yes I must say I think I'm also in a bit of a pickle. I can feel my money slipping away so quickly

if they dont hurry and tell us the details of the next couple of strech goals were going to be past them before there posted again lol

I'd say he has until tomorrow morning at this rate. Without new stretch goals it'll slow a little bit

Personally I hope he takes the time and sets up a couple of them, like the next 3-4, so that we can really watch this thing explode. I'd rather wait a few more hours for that than have him keep having to throw them up and do it on the fly. I'm pretty sure he never expected to get his kind of reaction for his game.

Hulksmash wrote:I'd say he has until tomorrow morning at this rate. Without new stretch goals it'll slow a little bit

Personally I hope he takes the time and sets up a couple of them, like the next 3-4, so that we can really watch this thing explode. I'd rather wait a few more hours for that than have him keep having to throw them up and do it on the fly. I'm pretty sure he never expected to get his kind of reaction for his game.

I don't know about that.

This is a very similar game/setup to Zombicide, also 'managed' by CMON.

This one is being run in a very similar fashion, with the added benefit of Mike McVey.

I think expectations were (and should be!) high on this one, given were Zombicide ended!

Alpharius wrote:

Hulksmash wrote:I'd say he has until tomorrow morning at this rate. Without new stretch goals it'll slow a little bit

Personally I hope he takes the time and sets up a couple of them, like the next 3-4, so that we can really watch this thing explode. I'd rather wait a few more hours for that than have him keep having to throw them up and do it on the fly. I'm pretty sure he never expected to get his kind of reaction for his game.

I don't know about that.

This is a very similar game/setup to Zombicide, also 'managed' by CMON.

This one is being run in a very similar fashion, with the added benefit of Mike McVey.

I think expectations were (and should be!) high on this one, given were Zombicide ended!

Though Zombicide does have some extra help. Zombiecide has references to Pulp Fiction, Kill Bill, Chuck Norris, even the official grace of Penny Arcade to get some popularity ramped up

Solo campaign. Hmmmm. Am hoping that future stretch goals include additional terrain

Solo campaign should be fun ... I'd also like to see an official "how to play like a skirmish game instead of board game" guide too

Hulksmash wrote:I'd say he has until tomorrow morning at this rate. Without new stretch goals it'll slow a little bit

Personally I hope he takes the time and sets up a couple of them, like the next 3-4, so that we can really watch this thing explode. I'd rather wait a few more hours for that than have him keep having to throw them up and do it on the fly. I'm pretty sure he never expected to get his kind of reaction for his game.

Given the quality of the miniatures I already own from the Sedition Wars line it's not surprising that he would have this kind of reaction.

The last few kickstarter goals have seemed like they have been done on the fly though, I wish they would just post the new 5 or 6 so people know what to look forward to. I've been considering upgrading my pledge a few times, but it starts to depend more on the extras since 1 boxed set is already an insane amount of minis and 2 is ridiculous.


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Ok..... I think the latest stretch goals are kind of making ME lose my interest here sadly.


$50 for a pack of glow in the dark miniatures (Optional.. ok)

The 240K stretch goal being related to this pack is very disappointing. I'm not sure if this kind of thing is normal for kickstarter but this starts to drive my interest down personally and I've spent more cash than a we've got movement at the mcvey store more than once.

Kind of feels a bit cheap, like if you don't spend the extra the stretch goals are wasted. The 240k stretch should have been giving the biohazard a set of the Lights out miniatures or something....

Just saw they posted the solo info and a pack of transparent and glow in the dark figs for $50.. and a stretch goal for more glowy stuff at 240k.

Not for me, but at 270k they're adding an extra tank drone thingy so that'll be nice. I'll probably cave and add on the terrain pack sooner or later though...

I agree w/ IdentifyZero--

1: single player campaigns are boring to me: I might as well play a video game, at that point

2: the clear minis are a pretty cool idea, representing something, but glow in the dark is pretty boring.

3: I don't really agree with the extras only related to an expansion.

This is the first real disappointment I've had with this campaign.

edit: but I do like the secondary tank, since that can theoretically expand on the main campaign.

I'm curious if the expanded campaign that was already announced will include all expansions (with the exception of the explicitly "for fun only" doctor)...

Necros wrote:Just saw they posted the solo info and a pack of transparent and glow in the dark figs for $50.. and a stretch goal for more glowy stuff at 240k.

Not for me, but at 270k they're adding an extra tank drone thingy so that'll be nice. I'll probably cave and add on the terrain pack sooner or later though...

I mean, granted at $2 a figure + the beautiful bases that McVey gives it's not a bad value. Just seems odd. I might still grab them anyways, just because they might be cool to down.

I'd also like to see an official "how to play like a skirmish game instead of board game" guide too

My theory is probably this, after watching the gameplay footage:

-Use cover rules as whatever they are.
-Change Squares into inches and remove the grid(mostly because a grid is hard to make work with complex terrain).
-Add some squad cohesion rules is you feel the need.

Hmmm... While I agree that a stretch goal for adding to an option isn't too exciting, I'm such a sucker for clear and/or gimmicky models than I may just drop some Transformers pre-orders to be able to afford it if the Stretch Goal for clear characters and Type 3 Glowy Strain hits.

I don't know. I think they may have overestimated the desire for solo rules. Apart from some noise in the earlier kickstarter comments, I haven't really seen a desire. Time will tell I suppose...

Platuan4th wrote:Hmmm... While I agree that a stretch goal for adding to an option isn't too exciting, I'm such a sucker for clear and/or gimmicky models than I may just drop some Transformers pre-orders to be able to afford it if the Stretch Goal for clear characters and Type 3 Glowy Strain hits.

Yes, I'm considering shelling out for another box set and the glowy figures. Just wish it was not the stretch goal. Kind of scary to consider but two box sets nets you over 160 figures and the scenic bases.

I've ordered the bases at the 7EU for 5 off McVey site in resin and they are beautiful, worth just as much as the figures likely.

zedmeister wrote:I don't know. I think they may have overestimated the desire for solo rules. Apart from some noise in the earlier kickstarter comments, I haven't really seen a desire. Time will tell I suppose...

While I'm not demanding it, it'll be a good way to pass an afternoon when the wife's not home and no one wants to play with me.

Yea, not too excited about GLOW IN THE DARK stuff. You cant paint them without ruining the point of them. Plus they seem kinda cheesy, like "Find this boardgame in Toys R Us" kind of cheesy. And I dont know how many people are gonna be affected by the 240k goal


But I must have an extra tank!

kenshin620 wrote:Yea, not too excited about GLOW IN THE DARK stuff. You cant paint them without ruining the point of them.

But they GLOW!


IN THE DARK!


OK, I may be a 5 year old inside. Hell, I actually DO shop at ToyRUs, albeit for Transformers and Halo Megabloks.

$50 for 32 extra figs is a good buy plus im sure they would look amazeing half painted as if there phaseing out of view ...

also gota have that tank one more and thats my sentinal sqd sorted .mite have to find somone who wants to swop there vanguard for my strain .

I wasn't aware people were clamoring for solo rules to play board games/war games xD

I think the glowing models are perfectly cool as an extra-add on, but at the same time they are something that I will ignore in favor of the other stuff, primarily Ridley, as the terrain is going to be widely released as a retail product at the same time as the KS version of it will be, and you only save 10 dollars.

I'm antsy about that Drone tank, though, as it's something I really want for Skirmish play. Like Necros I also would like to see a PDF of "Skirmish Rules" that Studio McVey would think are an appropriate way to take SW to the skirmish tabletop at 15-30 models per side. As it is I think things like the Reaction mechanic will translate pretty well as-is.

Fudging things to open the boardgame up into a skirmish game reminds me of my buddy and me doing the same thing as kids with my copies of Space Crusade and "Tyranid Attack" (Advanced Space Crusade). It's actually exactly what got us into WH40K as a complete game all those 15 years ago.

I wasn't aware people were clamoring for solo rules to play board games/war games xD

I swear on sites like Boardgamegeek, every other post about a game is how to play it solo. People evidently need to get some friends to play with, lol.

AegisGrimm wrote:I think the glowing models are perfectly cool as an extra-add on, but at the same time they are something that I will ignore in favor of the other stuff, primarily Ridley, as the terrain is going to be widely released as a retail product at the same time as the KS version of it will be, and you only save 10 dollars.

I'm antsy about that Drone tank, though, as it's something I really want for Skirmish play. Like Necros I also would like to see a PDF of "Skirmish Rules" that Studio McVey would think are an appropriate way to take SW to the skirmish tabletop at 15-30 models per side. As it is I think things like the Reaction mechanic will translate pretty well as-is.

Fudging things to open the boardgame up into a skirmish game reminds me of my buddy and me doing the same thing as kids with my copies of Space Crusade and "Tyranid Attack" (Advanced Space Crusade). It's actually exactly what got us into WH40K as a complete game all those 15 years ago.

I think the terrain is a good value to save the $10 and any potential shipping. Sort of nice to have it bought in advance.

IdentifyZero wrote:

AegisGrimm wrote:I think the glowing models are perfectly cool as an extra-add on, but at the same time they are something that I will ignore in favor of the other stuff, primarily Ridley, as the terrain is going to be widely released as a retail product at the same time as the KS version of it will be, and you only save 10 dollars.

I'm antsy about that Drone tank, though, as it's something I really want for Skirmish play. Like Necros I also would like to see a PDF of "Skirmish Rules" that Studio McVey would think are an appropriate way to take SW to the skirmish tabletop at 15-30 models per side. As it is I think things like the Reaction mechanic will translate pretty well as-is.

Fudging things to open the boardgame up into a skirmish game reminds me of my buddy and me doing the same thing as kids with my copies of Space Crusade and "Tyranid Attack" (Advanced Space Crusade). It's actually exactly what got us into WH40K as a complete game all those 15 years ago.

I think the terrain is a good value to save the $10 and any potential shipping. Sort of nice to have it bought in advance.

By the way, I know someone might have asked before but say I am buying the terrain, ripley and heaven forbid the glow in the dark figures. ($90) and also wanted to upgrade another box set into my pledge ($105) how would I go about doing this. Do I just add $195 extra?

AegisGrimm wrote:

I swear on sites like Boardgamegeek, every other post about a game is how to play it solo. People evidently need to get some friends to play with, lol.

Never been to that site, but yeah, they do need some friends. lol

True. I'll probably get the terrain, but the prospect of a wider retail release and the wait until March makes it less of a "Must buy NOW", lol.

If there's something else to spend extra money on that ships with the game release (like more terrain tiles), that will probably get my money. Closer to instant gratification.

IdentifyZero wrote:By the way, I know someone might have asked before but say I am buying the terrain, ripley and heaven forbid the glow in the dark figures. ($90) and also wanted to upgrade another box set into my pledge ($105) how would I go about doing this. Do I just add $195 extra?

You would add the extra, then change your pledge level to the 2 board games, then at the end they will send a survey, and you can say also want the terrain, ripley, and heaven forbid the glow in the dark figures.

McVey keeps finding ways to take my money. The glow in the dark are gimmicky, but kinda cool at the same time. I just wish it would be a small pack of them, and as a bonus to the 100+ level (maybe only like 6-10 guys instead of tons of them).

IdentifyZero wrote:
Never been to that site, but yeah, they do need some friends. lol

Reading through the SW thread on Boardgamegeek is quite irritating. The amount of people commenting on the line of (and I may be exaggerating slightly) "Well, if the rules aren't free, then I'm NEVER going to buy or play it. I can't believe that a company in this day and age expects me to pay for the rules!" I bet they get really heated if someone mentions monopoly.

Edit - dakkamods, any chance you could add "Sedition Wars" to the SW abbreviation?

Glow in the dark?!? But....who, plays a boardgame in the dark?.....I mean, it's a stretch goal, so those who have already invested really need not worry about it, I guess, but it seems like a strange incentive, even if it draws in new investors.

Delephont wrote:Glow in the dark?!? But....who, plays a boardgame in the dark?

I would, if I had glow in the dark models. I'm weird.

sparkywtf wrote:

IdentifyZero wrote:By the way, I know someone might have asked before but say I am buying the terrain, ripley and heaven forbid the glow in the dark figures. ($90) and also wanted to upgrade another box set into my pledge ($105) how would I go about doing this. Do I just add $195 extra?

You would add the extra, then change your pledge level to the 2 board games, then at the end they will send a survey, and you can say also want the terrain, ripley, and heaven forbid the glow in the dark figures.

McVey keeps finding ways to take my money. The glow in the dark are gimmicky, but kinda cool at the same time. I just wish it would be a small pack of them, and as a bonus to the 100+ level (maybe only like 6-10 guys instead of tons of them).

I agree with you on that. A small pack of them added on to the $100 level for the 240k stretch goal would have been much cooler. I think it might have also given more incentive towards purchasing the pack of them as well since you would already have a few guys and you would want more of them now!

The only bummer I see is that for me, I won't be buying the $50 glow in the dark set, but if they hit the stretch goal, I will be getting the optical camo glowy versions of Vanguard characters and the Brimstone and Witch figures, which I then won't have a need for. I'd much rather have had an extra tank(or two) instead of the glowing stretch goal.

Hopefully the rules for optical camo from the solo scenario is something that can be integrated into the main boardgame scenarios, maybe as a tech upgrade when purchasing troops for a scenario. Then I'd be slightly happier for the stretch goal, other than I'd then have no Vanguard troopers to give optical camo to unless I spend the 50 bucks.....argh.

They should have made it $25 for just the vanguard troopers, as the Strain models are PURE gimmick.

AegisGrimm wrote:The only bummer I see is that for me, I won't be buying the $50 glow in the dark set, but if they hit the stretch goal, I will be getting the optical camo glowy versions of Vanguard characters and the Brimstone and Witch figures, which I then won't have a need for.

Actually, you won't.

"If we hit this stretch, every Lights Out campaign pack gets an additional glow in the dark Scythe Witch and Brimstone and a Opticamo Kara and the rest of the characters! (Don't have shots for the Opticamo characters yet, but you get the idea)."

The glowy Stretch Goal only applies to the Glowy $50 set.

AegisGrimm wrote:The only bummer I see is that for me, I won't be buying the $50 glow in the dark set, but if they hit the stretch goal, I will be getting the optical camo glowy versions of Vanguard characters and the Brimstone and Witch figures, which I then won't have a need for. I'd much rather have had an extra tank(or two) instead of the glowing stretch goal.

Hopefully the rules for optical camo from the solo scenario is something that can be integrated into the main boardgame scenarios, maybe as a tech upgrade when purchasing troops for a scenario. Then I'd be slightly happier for the stretch goal, other than I'd then have no Vanguard troopers to give optical camo to unless I spend the 50 bucks.....argh.

They should have made it $25 for just the vanguard troopers, as the Strain models are PURE gimmick.

The 240K stretch goal only affects the Lights out Campaign pack ($50). So no, you won't get the characters in opticamo etc... unless you shell out $50 more for Lights Out.

Whoops, missed that. Kind of a "pass" for me, then. I'd still like to see a set at $25 dollars for just the Vanguard side that the 240K stretch would also affect, though.

That I would almost definitely do, as even in full normal light (so no actual glowing effect), the then clear-effect Humans have a cool portrayal of being under "Optical Camo" versus grey (or painted), while bright neon green Strain really have no purpose above normal Strain other than driving the price of the glowing set up.

AegisGrimm wrote:Whoops, missed that. Kind of a "pass" for me, then. I'd still like to see a set at $25 dollars for just the Vanguard side, though. That I would almost definitely do, as even in full light (so no actual glowing effect), the then clear-effect Humans have a cool portrayal of being under "Optical Camo", while bright neon green Strain have no purpose above normal Strain.

Maybe they'll be radioactive like the glowy Zombies in Zombies!!! ?

im thinking more a viewed through night vision look ..

I'm actually glad of the solo campaign; even if you're not especially interested in the solo rules, it's another campaign and some more fluff to the universe

I'm not so sure on the clear/glow in the dark models as I'm looking forward to painting it all (eventually). Hopefully there are enough people that want these special models that the $270K goal isn't as far away as it currently seems... then again we're not quite half way through yet and if Kicktraq's estimate of the end total is anything to go by... we've plenty more goals to come

[update] The more I look at the transparent ones, it would be nice to get those to use as camo marker versions. Not sure about the glow in the dark models though... [/update]

Considering it's jumped around 3k in the last 2 hours I think we'll be fine. It's still got a lot of potential for all the people who might not have seen the terrain/ripley/dice yet too. I mean, that stretch goal was from like saturday till now so I expect it'll hit $270 pretty quick. I'm looking forward to the second tank. I might have to go in for two set's if this keeps up. A cool IG Veteran/ army, Grotesques/Wracks for my DE, and the Brimstones would make awesome Hive Guard!

And that's not even counting just the coolness of the game itself!

I think the $50 for the clear and glowy figures is a good deal and pretty cool as well.

You could always just paint up the glowy guys and have a whole bunch of extra figs for $50. not a bad deal overall, but already getting plenty with the main set + biohazard rewards, so not something I need.

But.. between this game.. Dropzone Commander.. Dust Tactics .. honestly, very little interest in 40K 6th edition now, which I never thought would happen :/ .. Guess I'll just wait and see if one of my friends has a spare mini rulebook for sale when they buy up multiple copies of the starter

Oh well no doubt imo that the minis are a good deal. Just kinda odd these pop up before just normal figures. As I said it seems pointless to buy these if all you're doing is gonna slather paint all over.

Yeah, gonna have to pass up on the $50 deal.

I'm not sure I'm interested in the glowing buddies. I think I'll wait a few days, how the next strech goals and more possible optional items are developed.

IdentifyZero wrote:

Necros wrote:Just saw they posted the solo info and a pack of transparent and glow in the dark figs for $50.. and a stretch goal for more glowy stuff at 240k.

Not for me, but at 270k they're adding an extra tank drone thingy so that'll be nice. I'll probably cave and add on the terrain pack sooner or later though...

I mean, granted at $2 a figure + the beautiful bases that McVey gives it's not a bad value. Just seems odd. I might still grab them anyways, just because they might be cool to down.

I'm not a huge fan of them BUT I am guessing you can prime and paint them like normal?????? Pretty much not so interested in those but the extra tank will be cool.


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AegisGrimm wrote:I think the glowing models are perfectly cool as an extra-add on, but at the same time they are something that I will ignore in favor of the other stuff, primarily Ridley, as the terrain is going to be widely released as a retail product at the same time as the KS version of it will be, and you only save 10 dollars.

I was thinking that too but then I was like I'm probably buying the terrain anyway so I might as well save the $10.

Delephont wrote:Glow in the dark?!? But....who, plays a boardgame in the dark?.....I mean, it's a stretch goal, so those who have already invested really need not worry about it, I guess, but it seems like a strange incentive, even if it draws in new investors.

If the glowiness is reasonable quality, it wouldn't have to be completely dark to get the effect. Playing with the lights low (enough to see the board, but dim) would still give you a cool 'seen through a targeter' glow.

I think it's an awesome idea. Not quite awesome enough to entice another $50 out of me, but cool nonetheless.

Not a huge fan of the glow-in-the-dark minis, but I am a fan of a second tank, so let's hope we make that one!

insaniak wrote:

Delephont wrote:Glow in the dark?!? But....who, plays a boardgame in the dark?.....I mean, it's a stretch goal, so those who have already invested really need not worry about it, I guess, but it seems like a strange incentive, even if it draws in new investors.

If the glowiness is reasonable quality, it wouldn't have to be completely dark to get the effect. Playing with the lights low (enough to see the board, but dim) would still give you a cool 'seen through a targeter' glow.

I think it's an awesome idea. Not quite awesome enough to entice another $50 out of me, but cool nonetheless.

I guess you could rig the board with LEDs, hell that would be super atmospheric....and play the aliens FX track in the background.....wow, could be a good themed night actually.

Delephont wrote:

insaniak wrote:

Delephont wrote:Glow in the dark?!? But....who, plays a boardgame in the dark?.....I mean, it's a stretch goal, so those who have already invested really need not worry about it, I guess, but it seems like a strange incentive, even if it draws in new investors.

If the glowiness is reasonable quality, it wouldn't have to be completely dark to get the effect. Playing with the lights low (enough to see the board, but dim) would still give you a cool 'seen through a targeter' glow.

I think it's an awesome idea. Not quite awesome enough to entice another $50 out of me, but cool nonetheless.

I guess you could rig the board with LEDs, hell that would be super atmospheric....and play the aliens FX track in the background.....wow, could be a good themed night actually.

That'd be awesome, actually.

We did a 40K Night Fight game under black light before, was pretty fun. I bet that'd give the same feel, very atmospheric.