http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldabra_giant_tortoise


Ideally it would fill the base, with a bit of overhang from the head (but an upward overhang so as to not interfere with model placement too much)

You could always go lazy, and have him with his legs pulled in, and just a little snout and eyes showing. Then it is just a big rock/shell with a gun on top Fills up the base with no awkward overhang!

In that case, Wehr, you could probably use an actual turtle shell

Might not actually be a bad place to start, and then just sculpt the head, legs, and tail!

 RiTides wrote:
In that case, Wehr, you could probably use an actual turtle shell

I can just hear the PETA protesters now...

What if you got one of thows little lawn statues of a tortoise, and then scratch built the cannon that goes on top?
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http://www.amazon.com/Turtle-Decoration-Collectible-Tortoise-Figurine/dp/B003EVQ7KY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1374129410&sr=8-3&keywords=garden+statue+tortoise

If thows dimensions are correct, that looks like it would be approx the correct size... I think. I would diffidently be the most adorable engine of destruction to ever grace a table top.

Thanks for all the input folks. As I say, I really want to scratch sculpt the whole thing from an armature but these are good suggestions. Working from an appropriate sized base is a really good idea actually, once I've chosen the location of the feet it'll kind of build itself since I'm working from references. Cyp, that second image is probably going to play a fairly big part in the pose, I think it works really well for the job. And if it all goes horribly wrong I'll do what Wehr said and just do the shell.

Any thoughts on the weapon? The art doesn't work for me massively but I'll copy it if that's specifically what you wanted from Heath?

We really like what Heath did, especially with the silly auto-loading mechanism.

...But, if you would prefer a more historically accurate reference, here are some Ottoman Cannons:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/Ottoman_cannon_end_of_16th_century_length_385cm_cal_178mm_weight_2910_stone_projectile_founded_8_October_1581_Alger_seized_1830.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Turkish_Cannon_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1154540.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c2/Cannon_of_Suleyman_founded_by_Mohammed_ibn_Hamza_in_1530_1531_for_a_Turkish_invasion_of_India_taken_in_the_capture_of_Aden_in_1839_by_Cap_H_Smith_of_HMS_Volage_with_inscriptions.jpg

The Ottomans were really into big cannons, and liked imploying large batteries whenever possible, classically in sieges. They were also at the height of their power during a time when the superior cannons were the bigger bombards. A volley gun:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/Early_16th_century_Ottoman_volley_gun.jpg

Would also be an interesting variant to base a gun off of.

Aye, my only issue with the current art is the matter of scale: the crew is too small.

Gotcha! Thanks for the input it's super helpful, the more guidance from you guys the happier I am, I like to 'stick to the script' with my projects but I've never benefited from having the designers 'in the flesh'.

I was a big fan of the Ottomans when I played AoEIII so I'm vibing this concept pretty strongly now. I'll keep accurate to the art as much as I can but I might consider trying out a few different options in places.

These were my favorite units from AoEII

Haha, the monster truck cheat on III was hilarious too.

I was a Rise of Nations and Empire Earth player, myself. Alot of Brushfire's inspiration came from such games.

 miskatonicalum wrote:
I was a Rise of Nations and Empire Earth player, myself. Alot of Brushfire's inspiration came from such games.

That explains the lack of dodge vipers! *shakes fist*

Don't forget the Hamster Berserkers please. Those models would really need a non-metal casting.

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Don't forget the Hamster Berserkers please. Those models would really need a non-metal casting.

A Hamster Berserker/Viklander plastic kit is on my list, don't worry.

Our ultimate goal is to have all of the Warband Units in plastic, including the Heroes. But that will ultimately depend on the success of the initial releases.

So what your saying is all of us fans need to start putting money aside to buy the crap out of plastic otters and rats?
=P

 Lockark wrote:
So what your saying is all of us fans need to start putting money aside to buy the crap out of plastic otters and rats?
=P

Aye, you might need to help kick-start production of everything

I'm currently thinking this will be the order of plastic kits:

1 Otter Ashigaru
2 Rat Raider
3 Weasel Fusilier
4 Mouse Conscript
5 Tanuki Samurai
6 Hamster Berserker / Viklander
7 Badger-At-Claw or Shrew Hussar / Carbineer
8 Mouse Lancer
9 Kunoichi or Daimyo (Includes bits for all levels)
10 Warlord (Includes bits for all levels)
11 Mole Tactician (Includes bits for all levels)
12 Conquistador (Includes bits for all levels)

Which would then get us the ability to do plastic Starter Sets for half of the factions, and then we'd do Axony, Chugoku, Scyzantium, and Zabar...

Seriously? The top three faction options I have been debating over are Zabar, Scyzantium, and Chugoku Oh well...the concept art for those rat raiders does look amazing.

On a mostly unrelated note, is there any easy way to find out what the multipart resin kits (Red Wu, Veiled Assassins, etc.) include for bits and pieces? Your web store doesn't specify how many of what weapon options are included. Also, head options: are there extras or just enough?

 Galen wrote:
Seriously? The top three faction options I have been debating over are Zabar, Scyzantium, and Chugoku Oh well...the concept art for those rat raiders does look amazing.

On a mostly unrelated note, is there any easy way to find out what the multipart resin kits (Red Wu, Veiled Assassins, etc.) include for bits and pieces? Your web store doesn't specify how many of what weapon options are included. Also, head options: are there extras or just enough?

If its something the model can take, we include one bit of it for every model in the box. This is also true of extra heads.

I think the only thing that is a 1 per box is the 'Gesture' hand option for the Sand Guard.

 Cyporiean wrote:

1 Otter Ashigaru
2 Rat Raider
3 Weasel Fusilier
4 Mouse Conscript
5 Tanuki Samurai

I'm looking forward to three item in the top ten, so I'm quite happy with that list.

I like the order too

Any guess of the price point yet?

I'm digging the order also. When I do demo games at cons, I find Ribenguo is the most requested. With Vanalands and Aquitar tied for 2nd. I don't own any Civitan modles yet, but never get asked about them much when trying to explain all the factions.


Also for abit of input. When I do Intro games I try to stick to what comes in the starter boxes. But their are two exception to this.
-When using Ribenguo I tend to swap the Kunoichi for a Daimyo, but otherwise try to stick to the starter force. I feel like the Daimyo is a more forgiving model to use for new players then the Kunoichi.
-For Vanderlands I tend to give them 5 rat raiders since their usely up ageist troops with rifles.


Also the news about plastic heros kinda surprised me in all honesty. many companies have said before it's hard to get the economies of scale to work with hero models.

 Lockark wrote:

-When using Ribenguo I tend to swap the Kunoichi for a Daimyo, but otherwise try to stick to the starter force. I feel like the Daimyo is a more forgiving model to use for new players then the Kunoichi.

I can understand that, I've been going back and forth a few times on Kunoichi vs Daimyo in the starter. It could easily go either way.

 Lockark wrote:

Also the news about plastic heros kinda surprised me in all honesty. many companies have said before it's hard to get the economies of scale to work with hero models.

I do not know if we will do Plastic Heroes beyond the starter set ones. I feel that if we're going to do plastic troops in the starters we minds well do plastic heroes as well (and do the bits for all 4 levels of equipment).

Will there be an announcement on what will be released at GenCon? Did I miss it somewhere, or are you still waiting to see what pieces you can get done by then?

 Galen wrote:
Will there be an announcement on what will be released at GenCon? Did I miss it somewhere, or are you still waiting to see what pieces you can get done by then?

Still working on that, EFT kickstarter has priority when it comes getting stuff casted.

Plastic is more expensive than metal?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Plastic is more expensive than metal?

To get started yes, the molds are significantlypre expensive.

 Cyporiean wrote:
I think the only thing that is a 1 per box is the 'Gesture' hand option for the Sand Guard.

This is blatant speciesism! Why's it gotta be the cold-bloods that get left out, huh?



Am I the only one that thinks of Federwerk Rabbits when I see this? Make the hammer a sledge...

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Plastic is more expensive than metal?

Yeah, the cost of tooling the molds is more expensive than metal/resin, in the long run it becomes cheaper because once the price of making the mold has been paid off it becomes almost pure profit as plastic is fething cheap when compared to resin or metal (at those numbers).

Also are you on holiday, your flag says Ireland.

No, it's just routing on my workplace so I can reach some servers. I'm still in Hungary.

2nd Edition Faction packs and Individual Cards will be available mid-to-late September through WarGameVault. (including physical cards)

How many copies of each Troop/Hero would you like to see in a faction deck?

 Cyporiean wrote:
2nd Edition Faction packs and Individual Cards will be available mid-to-late September through WarGameVault. (including physical cards)

How many copies of each Troop/Hero would you like to see in a faction deck?

2 to 3 of each except for named characters, or something otherwise limited to a maximum

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:
2nd Edition Faction packs and Individual Cards will be available mid-to-late September through WarGameVault. (including physical cards)

How many copies of each Troop/Hero would you like to see in a faction deck?

2 to 3 of each except for named characters, or something otherwise limited to a maximum

This was my thought, Likely 3 of any Troops and 2 of the Heroes. Since we'll have the singles available at the same time you will be able to pick up a faction pack for the bulk of your units, and then fill in any gaps with the singles very easily.

So for Example:

Vandalands Faction Pack - $5.99
-Warlord x2
-Hamster Berserker x3
-Rat Raider x3
-Shrew Hussar x3
-Valkyr x3

Ribenguo Faction Pack - $5.99
-Kunoichi x2
-Amamimoto The Ronin x1
-Otter Ashigaru x3
-Tanuki Samurai x3
-Fox Shinobi x3

Er well, I was also thinking we could include the named Heroes, etc... So like Gotz, Arctos, etc...

 Alfndrate wrote:
Er well, I was also thinking we could include the named Heroes, etc... So like Gotz, Arctos, etc...

Well, those models aren't out yet.. so I didn't want to saddle people with extra cards (since they'll get them when the model is released).

Arctos, Gotz, and anyone who has art currently will be available at the same time in single form.


Also, the PDF Decks that currently come with the book pdfs will still be with the book pdfs, you'll just have to buy the decks/singles if you want proper cards.

Right now the PDF's are one page is one card. Do you think we could get Sheets you print off and cut up into individual cards of about the right size?

 Lockark wrote:
Right now the PDF's are one page is one card. Do you think we could get Sheets you print off and cut up into individual cards of about the right size?

Possibly, its a little bit of work. Would you want fronts & back as a separate sheet, or would you want both sides next to each to print & fold?

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Lockark wrote:
Right now the PDF's are one page is one card. Do you think we could get Sheets you print off and cut up into individual cards of about the right size?

Possibly, its a little bit of work. Would you want fronts & back as a separate sheet, or would you want both sides next to each to print & fold?

In other games with printable cards, they have it as two sheets, one side is the front, the other is the back. You print one side, then stick the sheet back in upside down to do the other side. For this methoid you need to use cardstock paper, otherwise the ink bleeds threw.


I like having the proper cards, but having a printable version of the faction deck is convenient to give to new players, quickly replace lost cards, ect.

I'll see about adding that into the PDFs once the cards are finalized.

Tamatama
Coming in September (We're just waiting on the cards to get in)



Painted by Miniature Mistress

Looks great! I might get that modle just to use as the general for my ribgeno army. (posting from phone so can't check spelling)

Dear lord, tell me he will be for an army I have.

If you will have a Ribenguo army...

As Whiteroo can tell you, Tamatama is a great start to a Ribenguo army

Dag nabit! I guess after I finish the 2 armies I have I'll have to start # tres.

As whiteroo can also tell you, "MELON FETHING TAMATAMA" I'm sure has crossed his mind before posting in the feedback thread.

Once you figure out that you only need some template weapons to counter him, it's not that big of a deal.

Why does he looks like he is dressed in cheese?

Because tamatama is a foreigner and has patch work armor. The cheese you see is supposed to be just random stuff patched worked into armor. So its trash and random pieces.

Copying over from Matt's thread, here is the WIP Otter Ashigaru 2.0

Something funny is going on with it's head....

The snout doesn't look right to me. It looks to wide for a otter to me. (At least when I look at it compared to images of otters I looked up on google.)

I think the all grey tone is making it look off, I had the same issue with Wu Xian when Daniel was sending me WIPs but after painting him like a Tiger he looks fine.

Look at the eyes. You can see both eyes of the otter in the photo(Cyporiean's photo), but in the third pic from the model that is almos from the front you can't really see either of it's eyes.

In the photo the eyes are almost on the top of it's skull, but the model's skull is much higher and it's eyes are somewhere at mid hight.





And If you compare it to the concept art it's legs are overscaled to the rest and it's torso is a little bit short.

Pardon me if I'm out of the loop - but are the Gecko Riders still incoming ?

 DX3 wrote:
Pardon me if I'm out of the loop - but are the Gecko Riders still incoming ?

Yes, they have been having casting issues with the mount that we've been trying to fix.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Tamatama
Coming in September (We're just waiting on the cards to get in)



Painted by Miniature Mistress

This is going to sound silly, but is he a Penguin? Or some kind of raven-thing.

He is indeed a penguin, an Emperor Penguin in fact

He traveled from far away lands because he had heard of Samurai in Ribenguo and wanted to go be one. So he amassed what he thought a samurai should look like.

Ha, I'm going to get that for my Aunt at some point then, she loves penguins, and its about time she had a militaristic one.

Just had a quick question. I am about to paint up Tajir and was wondering what kind of lizard she is based off of. Anole? Day Gecko?

 Darksteed wrote:
Just had a quick question. I am about to paint up Tajir and was wondering what kind of lizard she is based off of. Anole? Day Gecko?

An Albino Psammophilus dorsalis

Thanks! Much appreciated.

Coverart for Brushfire 2.0 Digest is in, we're doing some final tweaking and sending it off to print in the next few days. Once the proof is in and approved we'll put it up for sale.

So likely before the end of the month.

In case you've missed the post in News & Rumors, Brushfire's 2nd Edition Digest Rulebook is now avaliable!

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/118531/Brushfire---Second-Edition-%5BDigest%5D

The Cult of Exomorphism is now available for Preorder, all items will ship around the first week of November.

http://www.on-the-lamb.com/store/category.php?id_category=34

Cultists - Blister - 2 Models - $11.99
LEGION - Squad Box - 5 Models - $24.99
LEGION - Horde Box - 15 Models - $39.99
Queen - Solo Box - 1 Model - $14.99
Troll - Squad Box - 3 Models - $29.99
Will-O-Wisp - 1 Model - $19.99

The Army of the Black Flag - $199.99
- 1 x Queen - Solo Box
- 3 x Legion - Horde Box
- 2 x Troll - Squad Box
- 2 x Will-O-Wisp - Solo Box

Aw man, that Black Flag army deal looks ace. That's a huge pile of models.

 Lockark wrote:
Aw man, that Black Flag army deal looks ace. That's a huge pile of models.

I'm tempted to grab some of that...

 Cyporiean wrote:
In case you've missed the post in News & Rumors, Brushfire's 2nd Edition Digest Rulebook is now avaliable!

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/118531/Brushfire---Second-Edition-%5BDigest%5D

Ordered.

The Black Flag joke is killing me.

With laughs.

EDIT: Explaint!

2nd Edition Stat Cards are now avaliable for Axony, Chugoku, and Civitas.

http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php?cPath=19079_19083

Scyzantium and Zabar are coming soon.

When will this alternate earth troll sculpt be for sale? Shown at GenCon but I apparently walked right by it!



Will definitely be picking that up

I've got miscasts of that one Though I can't figure out wtf is wrong with most of them.

RiTides wrote:When will this alternate earth troll sculpt be for sale? Shown at GenCon but I apparently walked right by it!



Will definitely be picking that up

Before the end of the year.

Alfndrate wrote:I've got miscasts of that one Though I can't figure out wtf is wrong with most of them.

Bubbles on the back of the one hand, and weird tumors on it in some spots.

 Alfndrate wrote:
I've got miscasts of that one Though I can't figure out wtf is wrong with most of them.

PERFECTION, THAT'S WHAT!

Yea, there was an issue with the mold itself having little bubbles in it that caused resin tumors on the model. Some of them I tried to file/cut off to get a usable master, but no luck.

Also, the hands were a real bear to get bubbles out of. The arms almost certainly need to be removed to cast properly. It is a great looking model though, I totally love it!

 Wehrkind wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I've got miscasts of that one Though I can't figure out wtf is wrong with most of them.

PERFECTION, THAT'S WHAT!

Yea, there was an issue with the mold itself having little bubbles in it that caused resin tumors on the model. Some of them I tried to file/cut off to get a usable master, but no luck.

Also, the hands were a real bear to get bubbles out of. The arms almost certainly need to be removed to cast properly. It is a great looking model though, I totally love it!

I must just be blind then haha but I looked over them, and was like, "I don't see what's wrong with them. Oh well, free models "

 RiTides wrote:
When will this alternate earth troll sculpt be for sale?
Will definitely be picking that up

I have to agree. The alt earth troll looks very nice, plus I just won a battle this weekend with an earth troll in my party which makes me want one even more.


I periodically find myself perusing these forums or the OTLG site and wondering if Changsu Dun is out yet, if I can rationalize ordering a gecko rider, or how well the will-o-wisps will translate from art to figure. I have to keep reminding myself that I have plenty of stuff already ordered I'll have an original earth troll, gels, hyenas, etc. to worry about when I get my stuff, then a couple months down the road I can look into picking up some of these new pieces along with some Endless duplicates and random Brushfire. I just need to remember to pace myself.

I'm tempted by the Army of the Black Flag,the stuff in it looks great.

Unfortunatly OTL is cutoff from my hobby budget until I receive my Endless Fantasy Kickstarter stuff.

I don't have an end date for the Black Flag deal just yet.

I think Black Friday/Holiday time will see several more deals of the same sort, should there be interest for that sort of thing.

 Cyporiean wrote:
I don't have an end date for the Black Flag deal just yet.

I think Black Friday/Holiday time will see several more deals of the same sort, should there be interest for that sort of thing.

While I'm always interested in army deals, OTL Games stuff isn't in the budget until I get my EFT Kickstarter stuff. Having the opportunity to purchase the stuff at Gencon stroked a raw nerve with me...

Selling Endless at Gencon was a tough decision for us. We only brought a handful of models that we had casted in excess of the number needed for backers, and we chose not sell any model types that had not shipped to at least one backer.

To ensure we get models to every customer, we have begun split shipping, including a free Minor Demonite to each backer in their first shipment, and a free Dark Knight in their final shipment.

The last of the first split shipments should be going out by week's end, and final shipments beginning the week after.

I back Kickstarters (115 to date) for fairly selfish reasons. I enjoy having stuff first, I enjoy having overly produced stuff and I enjoy having exclusives. Sometimes I'll back a project because I either like the creators or truely want to see something come to life. More often then not I back purely because of whats in it for me.

I have no problem with kickstarters being late. I have no problem with lack of communication from project creators. I don't even have a problem with sub-standard rules.

What really bothers me is when my selfish reasons for backing a kickstarter are taken away from me. Especially when I either loose esclutivity or I'm not the first too have new shiney stuff.

I'll be the first to admit that my reasons are petty but it's one of the few ways to actually piss me off.

If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

 Alfndrate wrote:
If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

Will you be an exclusive?

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

Will you be an exclusive?

There are only 2 people with my name on the planet...

Catyrpelius wrote:I back Kickstarters (115 to date) for fairly selfish reasons. I enjoy having stuff first, I enjoy having overly produced stuff and I enjoy having exclusives. Sometimes I'll back a project because I either like the creators or truely want to see something come to life. More often then not I back purely because of whats in it for me.

I have no problem with kickstarters being late. I have no problem with lack of communication from project creators. I don't even have a problem with sub-standard rules.

What really bothers me is when my selfish reasons for backing a kickstarter are taken away from me. Especially when I either loose esclutivity or I'm not the first too have new shiney stuff.

I'll be the first to admit that my reasons are petty but it's one of the few ways to actually piss me off.

Perfectly understandable, and I'm sorry to have pissed you off.

Its not much, but you are getting the dice that are exclusive to the Kickstarter; the Minor Demonite* and Dark Knight are not available to anyone else yet.

*Okay, technically I did bring 3 of the MD to Gen Con.

Alfndrate wrote:If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

If I send you Alf's stuff, will that make it up to you?

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

Will you be an exclusive?

There are only 2 people with my name on the planet...

Damn now I have to try and track down the other one so I have the complete set.

Cy, 1 of those MDs came home with me, so you only sold 2...


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 Catyrpelius wrote:
Damn now I have to try and track down the other one so I have the complete set.

Washington is the state you'll find him in.

 Cyporiean wrote:

Catyrpelius wrote:I back Kickstarters (115 to date) for fairly selfish reasons. I enjoy having stuff first, I enjoy having overly produced stuff and I enjoy having exclusives. Sometimes I'll back a project because I either like the creators or truely want to see something come to life. More often then not I back purely because of whats in it for me.

I have no problem with kickstarters being late. I have no problem with lack of communication from project creators. I don't even have a problem with sub-standard rules.

What really bothers me is when my selfish reasons for backing a kickstarter are taken away from me. Especially when I either loose esclutivity or I'm not the first too have new shiney stuff.

I'll be the first to admit that my reasons are petty but it's one of the few ways to actually piss me off.

Perfectly understandable, and I'm sorry to have pissed you off.

Its not much, but you are getting the dice that are exclusive to the Kickstarter; the Minor Demonite* and Dark Knight are not available to anyone else yet.

*Okay, technically I did bring 3 of the MD to Gen Con.

Alfndrate wrote:If I go to the Warstore Weekend, will that make up for it?

If I send you Alf's stuff, will that make it up to you?

It is what it is...

I see some new stuff in the store like Changshu Dun. Is there any pics out for that yet?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
I see some new stuff in the store like Changshu Dun. Is there any pics out for that yet?

Endless' Dark Knight, and Brushfire's Changshu Dun, Lao Yi &Hua Poi Kay are with the painters atm; there are some greens pics of them earlier in the thread.

Dark Knight - Endless: Fantasy Tactics Class


Shipping in November.

I'm glad pose on the knight was kept simple to match the picture. The sword is my favorite part of the model, but it all comes together nicely.

How hard is it going to be to remove the hair on that model?

 Wehrkind wrote:

 Alfndrate wrote:
I've got miscasts of that one Though I can't figure out wtf is wrong with most of them.

PERFECTION, THAT'S WHAT!

Yea, there was an issue with the mold itself having little bubbles in it that caused resin tumors on the model. Some of them I tried to file/cut off to get a usable master, but no luck.

Also, the hands were a real bear to get bubbles out of. The arms almost certainly need to be removed to cast properly. It is a great looking model though, I totally love it!

Well hopefully there's a way to get the hands to cast correctly, as it looks like there's a lot of interest in this one

I think we'll get it to work out, we just haven't really focused on it just yet as we're devoting the majority of the molding time to the initial EFT figures + Cult of Exomorphism.


We've just setup Pot #3, and Pot #4 will be ready to go soon, so that will greatly increase our production speed. When we get back from TWSW we should be able to get started on the next couple of EFT models, and those Brushfire greens that have been sitting around.

 Catyrpelius wrote:
How hard is it going to be to remove the hair on that model?

Not exceptionally difficult, provided you can do a bit of gs work to cover up the void thats left on the back of the head and shoulders. The cape is a separate piece that slots underneath and around the hair, so you still may want to leave a bit of it, then cover it as you rebuild the top area of the cape.

Other than that, theres no reason it couldn't be removed with a bit of careful exacto cutting, if you were so inclined.


(back to lurking and painting I go... )

Dragoon [F] - Patrick Keith


Hua Poi Kay & Lao Yi - Daniel Fokine (Sculpt), Miniature Mistress (Paint)


Changshu Dun - Daniel Fokine (Sculpt), Miniature Mistress (Paint)

Nice!

When these will be available?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Nice!

When these will be available?

Changshu, Hua and Lao Should be shipping out next week. We'll have a small number of them with us at TheWarstore Weekend this weekend though... not that that would help you much

The Dragoon will be later in the month.

I'll definetly add a Changshu Dun to my next order. So just don't run out of them until then.

I need to finish building and painting thirty-something BF minies first.

Cyp, I'm really digging the art styles we're getting with Miniature Mistress and Rollin' All Ones. Can we expect/see Miniature Mistress tackling Tajir?

Tom is right. Looking at the picture of Poi Kay I can see the photo doesn't do that red or green any favors. The NMM is also fantastic and fits in with the style. Good stuff.

Also the sculpts are just boss. This is quality stuff. If only it was Aquitar...

The other sculpts look pretty good, I think... but I am not at all a fan of the rabbit sculpt :-/. The head looks like a fake / doll rabbit, whereas the other animal heads tend to be a little more realistic looking.

Alfndrate wrote:Cyp, I'm really digging the art styles we're getting with Miniature Mistress and Rollin' All Ones. Can we expect/see Miniature Mistress tackling Tajir?

ATM, I'm not planning on having Elizabeth do anything that Ramos has done, or vice versa. They'll both be tackling new things for some time.

Zygrot24 wrote:Also the sculpts are just boss. This is quality stuff. If only it was Aquitar...

We've got a new sculptor doing a couple of Aquitarans ATM, but they likely won't be ready before Christmas as we've got a bit of a backlog of greens to get through.

 Cyporiean wrote:

Alfndrate wrote:Cyp, I'm really digging the art styles we're getting with Miniature Mistress and Rollin' All Ones. Can we expect/see Miniature Mistress tackling Tajir?

ATM, I'm not planning on having Elizabeth do anything that Ramos has done, or vice versa. They'll both be tackling new things for some time.

I'm okay with this, they both have a nice style that is working really well for the minis they've been tackling, and hot diggity is that NMM awesome

Its fascinating to see other people's styles start to come through in their painting. I almost want her to take on a Tajir, just so I can see how it takes shape!
She's making me want to try doing a bit of NMM, myself. It really does work well for the models.



Also, Cyp.... I want... no, I -need- that dragoon...
Seriously, like, several of them xD
Totally excited to see her reappear!

 Ramos Asura wrote:
Also, Cyp.... I want... no, I -need- that dragoon...
Seriously, like, several of them xD
Totally excited to see her reappear!

I'm sure that can be arranged...

That Changshu Dun model is very cool! Keep up the good work!

Is there any progress with the plastic rats and otters?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Is there any progress with the plastic rats and otters?

Slowly. We've got the files for the Ashigaru, but the models are too detailed for the company we wanted to use to produce them atm (They are working on getting a larger/better machine with no ETA). We're currently shopping around for a replacement factory and waiting on a couple of quotes to come in from US/UK firms.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Nice!

When these will be available?

Changshu, Hua and Lao Should be shipping out next week. We'll have a small number of them with us at TheWarstore Weekend this weekend though... not that that would help you much

The Dragoon will be later in the month.

Hmm new stuff at TWSW...

Pretty much done

Love the tree things in the back!

So we're finally getting back in the swing of things after TWSW, and today seems to be 'Sculptors send pictures to me' day...

So it looks like we'll have two Aquitaran Characters coming out before Christmas, and possibly a Scyzantine Exemplar...

The fellow working on the Aquitarans is going to be doing Vandal characters next...

 Cyporiean wrote:
So we're finally getting back in the swing of things after TWSW, and today seems to be 'Sculptors send pictures to me' day...

So it looks like we'll have two Aquitaran Characters coming out before Christmas, and possibly a Scyzantine Exemplar...

The fellow working on the Aquitarans is going to be doing Vandal characters next...

Neat! Let me know when they go up for preorder.

I've just seen a green of one of the new models, and let me tell you... it's looking good

Just a dapper tease...

Love the head, love the hat, hate the coat. Especially the shoulders.

Who is he?

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Love the head, love the hat, hate the coat. Especially the shoulders.

Who is he?

Shoulders are getting fixed.

Arsene Leblanc, Gentlewolf Thief of Aquitar.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Love the head, love the hat, hate the coat. Especially the shoulders.

Who is he?

Shoulders are getting fixed.

Arsene Leblanc, Gentlewolf Thief of Aquitar.

I think narrowing the shoulders to be more inline with the waist would be the way to go... Also is that a chain around his waist?

I don't see him in my book.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Love the head, love the hat, hate the coat. Especially the shoulders.

Who is he?

Shoulders are getting fixed.

Arsene Leblanc, Gentlewolf Thief of Aquitar.

I think narrowing the shoulders to be more inline with the waist would be the way to go... Also is that a chain around his waist?

I don't see him in my book.

Pocket Watch, check the Mercs doc.

Why is there a wolf is Aquitar anyway?

I thought Aquitar was weasels.

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Why is there a wolf is Aquitar anyway?

I thought Aquitar was weasels.

Weasels, Badgers, Marmot/Gophers, and Shrews make up the majority of the population of Aquitar, with Moles being pretty close behind them. But you'll find familes of various other races living there as well, such as Ferrets, Mice, and Grey Wolves.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Why is there a wolf is Aquitar anyway?

I thought Aquitar was weasels.

Weasels, Badgers, Marmot/Gophers, and Shrews make up the majority of the population of Aquitar, with Moles being pretty close behind them. But you'll find familes of various other races living there as well, such as Ferrets, Mice, and Grey Wolves.

We don't take too kindly too those types around these parts.

I am sure they blend in just fine, once they get the accent down.

A Wolf in Weasel's clothing?

That sounds a bit like you are describing the girls waiting to get into the club "Player's" at PennState...

That clothing was meant for a much smaller creature, at anyrate.

Nice!

isn't that chain too big? Chains for pocket watches are usually delicate, but that is a solid five centimeters per link.

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Nice!

isn't that chain too big? Chains for pocket watches are usually delicate, but that is a solid five centimeters per link.

yes, but we're also talking about chain that you can actually see on the miniatures. My Badger in the Iron Claws conversion has Jeweler's Chain wrapped around his claws, and that's about as delicate as I'd go, and painting that was a royal pain in the ass.

I guess that's the case.

Anyway, when he will come out? He would be a solid addition to my Aquataar list.

How close is that to being finished?

How come the other picture you posted to facebook hasn't made an appearence here?

 Catyrpelius wrote:
How close is that to being finished?

How come the other picture you posted to facebook hasn't made an appearence here?

The gator? He's still a WIP.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:
How close is that to being finished?

How come the other picture you posted to facebook hasn't made an appearence here?

The gator? He's still a WIP.

With the finish on the wolfs coat I'd hope this one is still WIP too.

Sorry, got distracted by other things and forgot to post Kardy..

More Kardy goodness:

Looking very nice!

Wow! That is sharp!

I was kinda shorta wanted to skip the Skyzantine, but I'm going to buy this one.

 WhiteRoo wrote:
I was kinda shorta wanted to skip the Skyzantine, but I'm going to buy this one.

Well..

Good News! He is a merc, so you can use him in Vandalands.

Bad News?! We're planning on having Bobby Jackson do all of Scyzantine's models from now on.

Wow that model looks great! You guys have really stepped up your game lately with the look of your minis. Im really digging the looks and sound of EFT. Dont be surprised if I make an order or two in the near future

 KingCracker wrote:
Wow that model looks great! You guys have really stepped up your game lately with the look of your minis. Im really digging the looks and sound of EFT. Dont be surprised if I make an order or two in the near future

having gotten part of my kickstarter stuff painted, i recommend you order like a dozen dragoons and dwarves, i've no idea how they are in game, but they're awesome little sculpts

 greenskin lynn wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:
Wow that model looks great! You guys have really stepped up your game lately with the look of your minis. Im really digging the looks and sound of EFT. Dont be surprised if I make an order or two in the near future

having gotten part of my kickstarter stuff painted, i recommend you order like a dozen dragoons and dwarves, i've no idea how they are in game, but they're awesome little sculpts

The Dwarven Gunsmith is similar to the human one, a few abilities have changed to give them a different feel, like the Human Gunsmith has an ability to make his run ranged 8, while the Dwarf says, "Feth this give me a shotgun" and gets a Cone 2 or 3 ranged attack.

The dragoon you got in the Kickstarter is the Dark Dragoon, he hooks into large monsters and stays with them, think Kaine from Soul Reaver from back in the day. The Light Dragoon (the awesome ballerina model) has the stats in the book and is more or less your typical JRPG Dragoon.

Are there pics of the cult of exomorphism models, as opposed to sketches of them? All I could find was a pic of the troll and what looked like the queen in progress. I am tempted by the army of the black flag, but I want to see the models before I buy them.

 spaceelf wrote:
Are there pics of the cult of exomorphism models, as opposed to sketches of them? All I could find was a pic of the troll and what looked like the queen in progress. I am tempted by the army of the black flag, but I want to see the models before I buy them.

We haven't gotten proper paint jobs/photos yet, but you can see most of the models in this poorly lit photo from TWSW. Ramos will be getting some units this week to paint up for us.

Wow, that was fast! Those will o wisps are huge. Even the ants are larger than I thought they would be. Very cool.

 spaceelf wrote:
Wow, that was fast! Those will o wisps are huge. Even the ants are larger than I thought they would be. Very cool.

I try to be quick

Here is the closest I've got to a scale shot:

Well, now I know why it has taken so long to get photos. You are playing around with the paint. I see a whole bunch of layers of brown and only one is finally red. I am going straight for the fire engine red spray paint. Although a glossy black would look great too.

 spaceelf wrote:
Well, now I know why it has taken so long to get photos. You are playing around with the paint. I see a whole bunch of layers of brown and only one is finally red. I am going straight for the fire engine red spray paint. Although a glossy black would look great too.

Those are actually from TheWarstore Weekend, I was painting up an army for the Brushfire Beginner's Tourney. Winner fought me, and then got the army I painted.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 spaceelf wrote:
Well, now I know why it has taken so long to get photos. You are playing around with the paint. I see a whole bunch of layers of brown and only one is finally red. I am going straight for the fire engine red spray paint. Although a glossy black would look great too.

Those are actually from TheWarstore Weekend, I was painting up an army for the Brushfire Beginner's Tourney. Winner fought me, and then got the army I painted.

The prize was that they got a new army, not that they got a painted army

 spaceelf wrote:
Are there pics of the cult of exomorphism models, as opposed to sketches of them? All I could find was a pic of the troll and what looked like the queen in progress. I am tempted by the army of the black flag, but I want to see the models before I buy them.

Some of this could be my fault... I think I own most of the Exomorph models in existence...

The sculpts that are being shown have vastly improved from the early days of OTL games. I love that crocodile guy. I wish I could give away all my boxes of old stuff and get the new hotness.

 Cyporiean wrote:

Good News! He is a merc, so you can use him in Vandalands.

I'm starting to pay attention to what is a mercenary. A couple units of Mercs would make it much easier to dabble in multiple armies. I like the gator, along with a gecko rider or two, and Tajir if I need to come up with more gold. All good models, and all mercs able to fit into most any army.

 Galen wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Good News! He is a merc, so you can use him in Vandalands.

I'm starting to pay attention to what is a mercenary. A couple units of Mercs would make it much easier to dabble in multiple armies. I like the gator, along with a gecko rider or two, and Tajir if I need to come up with more gold. All good models, and all mercs able to fit into most any army.

Its almost as if we planned things all along with the 'Well I've already got X unit as Mercs.. if I just get Y I can run them a proper Z Army!' thought.

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Galen wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

Good News! He is a merc, so you can use him in Vandalands.

I'm starting to pay attention to what is a mercenary. A couple units of Mercs would make it much easier to dabble in multiple armies. I like the gator, along with a gecko rider or two, and Tajir if I need to come up with more gold. All good models, and all mercs able to fit into most any army.

Its almost as if we planned things all along with the 'Well I've already got X unit as Mercs.. if I just get Y I can run them a proper Z Army!' thought.

Who are you guys trying to kid, you don't plan anything...

We plan to get lunch at cons occasionally

Bandits Beware this upcoming Endless release...



Lyra Cosine, Sculpted by Patrick Keith.

Amazing!

Is it bad that my first thought upon seeing Lyra was that she is on the wrong base. With a second look I can tell that she is just puttied there, probably for the picture.

I've always preferred the flat 40k round bases to the lipped ones, but that is rather off topic.

The model looks great. It has some real character to it.

Will have to pick her up in my next order if she is out in time!


(Personaly I've recently became a fan of clear bases.)

The Big Boy is up for Preorder:
http://www.on-the-lamb.com/store/product.php?id_product=136

We haven't got his price finalized, and its likely to be more once we've got it all figured out, so get your order in now to lock in the price.

Curious as to how big the King of Zabar is? Here is one i've partly built out of miscast pieces.

So pretty big then?

What size base will it go on?

 whalemusic360 wrote:
So pretty big then?

What size base will it go on?

120mm, round.

This might have been asked, but what is the scale of Brushfire minies?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
This might have been asked, but what is the scale of Brushfire minies?

Non-scale, but 30mm terrain/accessories is usually best.

Can't wait to see what you guys bring to Templecon this year!

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Can't wait to see what you guys bring to Templecon this year!

They're bringing me, I'm for sale, but you can't take me home.

But you can take him. HAY OH!

 miskatonicalum wrote:
But you can take him. HAY OH!

More like Ho Yay, amirite?!

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Can't wait to see what you guys bring to Templecon this year!

They're bringing me, I'm for sale, but you can't take me home.

No one would pay for you anyway...

Got the last of Loxy's molds done, so here is my complete figure:



Around 5.25 Inches tall not including the base.. which is big enough that I had to buy a new display case for our convention booths.

Incase you aren't following Ramos' Blog...

Dragoon [F]



Beastmen Engineer/Laborer



Legion

Yes yes yes!

These three are available now btw

Those beastmen look wicked! Everything is looking good. With all the cool Endless releases how will I ever get around to Brushfire? Loxodon looks impressive, but I'll want a decent Zabar force before thinking seriously about him. Kardaxx and Changsu Dun still tempt me too.

 Galen wrote:
Those beastmen look wicked! Everything is looking good. With all the cool Endless releases how will I ever get around to Brushfire? Loxodon looks impressive, but I'll want a decent Zabar force before thinking seriously about him. Kardaxx and Changsu Dun still tempt me too.

And we're just getting started

Those Beastmen and Legion are awsome looking!

Not that big a fan of the face on the female Dragoon but I can appreciate it as a model.

Those beastmen look different than the one I have. Is it a new model? Is it a two-in-one kind of model? Is it comes with the neat base?

 WhiteRoo wrote:
Those beastmen look different than the one I have. Is it a new model? Is it a two-in-one kind of model? Is it comes with the neat base?

Yes, it's a new model. The previous one proved to be too difficult to consistently cast, so we had to get it resculpted. I think there are like 6 casts of the old one floating about.

New model makes either the laborer or the engineer, and includes the cards for both. No special basing.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Beastmen Engineer/Laborer

Whoa, those beastmen look good. Do you have an unpainted pic?

Might decide to give my 2 Earth Trolls (the original, and the alternate one that I got from Alfndrate ) some company on my shelf

Ostensibly I've been thinking of using either as a counts-as ogre for my chaos dwarf earthshaker cannon, but your Endless releases have continued to impress. Brushfire has not as much, to me, but Endless is a much better game for your model in that it requires less models to play. So I think you guys have been heading in the right direction with Endless!

Thanks for the complements, guys- Glad to see these guys are well received!


@Cat: I definitely understand about not liking the Dragoon's face. I must admit I failed to do the model justice in that regard. My skills are lacking in some regards, particularly in painting female faces, and its something I really need to improve. Take it from me, though- the sculpt is far more amazing than I make it look


@WhiteRoo: The base, though not standard, is actually a pretty easy build. I just took some square wooden dowels and split them with my knife, then the rails are miniature plastic I-Beams bent to follow the ties.

@RiTides: I don't have any unpainted pics (unusual for me, as I take pictures of -everything-), but I betcha Cyp might have one. If not, wait a bit and Ill be ordering a beastman or two of my own and shoot that!

 RiTides wrote:

Whoa, those beastmen look good. Do you have an unpainted pic?

I do not have a shareable unpainted pic (I've got pics of the green, but it suffers from 'Multiple Materials make greens look terribad' syndrome ), but I think I'm building an Engineer to demo with at Templecon so I can take some pics then.

Ramos did post this pic of them primed though:

 Ramos Asura wrote:

@Cat: I definitely understand about not liking the Dragoon's face. I must admit I failed to do the model justice in that regard. My skills are lacking in some regards, particularly in painting female faces, and its something I really need to improve. Take it from me, though- the sculpt is far more amazing than I make it look

I don't know if its the painting or the actual sculpted face, but when I look at that model it's body language scream HAPPY or at the very least enjoying herself. Basically I think the model needs a smirk. The rest of the model is fantastically painted though.

I really really wish my ants looked half as good as yours.

Crusader [F] is now up for Preorder, we plan to begin shipping her the week after Adepticon.



Sculpted by Patrick Keith, $11.99

New Brushfire Preorders Up:

Gotz Von Federwerk, Captain Flintlock, and Arsene Leblanc - Sculpted by Bryan Steele



Gotz - $19.99 (Also includes Gotz on Foot)
Flintlock - $11.99
Leblanc - $14.99



Also we announced the second EFT Kickstarter.

Crusader is looking VERY nice! Good work

Awesome!

Leblanc is half a leg in the uncanny walley in my opinion, but I'll still going to buy it!

As a "Gentleman Thief" he has 'acquired' fancy clothes that are ill-fitting, and were fitted to someone else (their previous owner?). That gives him the odd baggy look.

That explains a lot actually.

Also it looks better on Cyps other picture. Maybe this one is just it's bad angle.

I think sometimes it comes down to just getting paint on the mini. Which says a lot about our sculptors, that they can 'see' what the end result will look like fully painted.

Any word on the plastics?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Any word on the plastics?

Canceled due to lack of interest.

Damn. I'm surprised at that. I was really looking forwards to some plastic anthropomorphic otters.

But I was interested...

I think it was also due to Proxie Models not really being able to do real models just yet in plastic. I had also been in communication with them about a board game piece, but that also was too complex for him to make a mold for. His bases are absolutely amazing, but creating a more complex mold is something he is still tackling, I think.

 RiTides wrote:
I think it was also due to Proxie Models not really being able to do real models just yet in plastic.

This is a big part of it. With Proxie's pricing we would have been easily able to cover the costs for at least one unit, possibly doing a Kickstarter just to cover those costs upfront for several units. Without Proxie being able to do it we have to goto another firm, which is either in UK (IE Rendra or PDC) or China (IE Wargames Factory).

Any of those options increases the costs greatly, to the point where we could do it and sink the company if they don't sell.. or not do them in plastic.

We are opting to stay in business and keep releasing Brushfire units in Resin/Metal.

You colud sell the digital models prepped for 3d printing.

 WhiteRoo wrote:
You colud sell the digital models prepped for 3d printing.

We could, but we only have the Otter Ashigaru meshes done ATM, and they need more work to be producible.. And I don't really feel like paying for that. Their sculpts have already cost around 6 times more then what a traditional sculpt would have costed.

That's to bad to here. But sadly not that surpriseing. =C


Maby in a few years down the road it might become viable. Untill then i'll just keep enjoying my resin modles.

 Lockark wrote:
Maby in a few years down the road it might become viable. Untill then i'll just keep enjoying my resin modles.

Yeah, should it become viable, or I just win the lotto or something awesome, we'll do plastics.

In the meantime we'll work on finishing up the missing Troop options (such as Veldt Hounds) and get resculpts for some of the older/'crummier' Troops (Sand Guard, Fusiliers).

That's too bad. I had been waiting on the new otters to start a Ribengo force. :(

By curiosity, what was the difference in price? I assume it's mostly the initial molding that is the issue. Twice as much? Ten time as much? Even worse?

 Tonio wrote:
By curiosity, what was the difference in price? I assume it's mostly the initial molding that is the issue. Twice as much? Ten time as much?

Yeah it was the molding, Proxie's prices would have been around 1/10~1/20th the price of going elsewhere. Both a steal and godsend for getting plastic figures done.

Plus I wouldn't need to ship a massive container of crap from China/UK whenever we needed a restock.

SO.

Vandalands folk.


I just saw a picture of a bear. A big one. With axes.

 Zygrot24 wrote:
SO.

Vandalands folk.


I just saw a picture of a bear. A big one. With axes.

YYYEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSS