Yeah, I just found out today ^^


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 Flinty wrote:
Looks a it heavy geary. Does it have an official designation?

HACS-01MG-MP Hunter

Oh, I'm also using it to test Lychee's auto supports, as I'd like to know if they're any good... we'll see >_>

Has he updated it recently that it popped up to catch your notice? I think Ashley posted about it in the HG thread. I haven't followed up on it.

 warboss wrote:
Has he updated it recently that it popped up to catch your notice? I think Ashley posted about it in the HG thread. I haven't followed up on it.

I don't really know ^^. I just checked the redit to see if there was any news, and lo and behold, there was!

Ok, so first test went ok-ish.

As you can see, the design itself is quite pretty indeed:



...but (as I was expecting, really) Lychee's autosupports mar the print a tad too much, by default:




The rest prints beautifully, though:



Now, size-wise I decided to test first with scaling it at 48% instead of the creator's recommended 54%, because it felt a bit more accurate:




And a scale shot with the official minis through the ages:

Best print eVar!

You're going to start playing 2nd edition again now, aren't you?

I just might XD. RPG at least.

So, putting things in the right perspective...



That's a Legion AT-ST

Anyways, so Lychee's autosupports were kind of a failure (not an abject one, mind, it printed, just marred) I decided to test the old "doing it your damn self" way, and as long as I was doing it I might as well print the thing at the suggested scale (reduced at 53% instead of 48%):




(Tallarn for scale )

After priming it, you can notice the difference in support placement (I just yanked the supports off):









Big, but not ginormous:



Anyways, I've started to put some paint on it (basecoating, it's a pain >_&gt:

Looks great! And very crisp. Original Elegoo Mars at 20? I like the bigger scale as well. I don't know if it's technically correct but it looks better visually.

 warboss wrote:
Looks great! And very crisp. Original Elegoo Mars at 20? I like the bigger scale as well. I don't know if it's technically correct but it looks better visually.

Mars 2 Pro at 50, actually

I didn't realize you upgraded! What's your opinion on the new machine? When did you buy it? Other than the obvious time savings, have you noticed a difference in the quality of the prints?

 warboss wrote:
I didn't realize you upgraded! What's your opinion on the new machine? When did you buy it? Other than the obvious time savings, have you noticed a difference in the quality of the prints?

Some months ago (it was on sale for 200, so... ^^). In general I am quite happy with it, as it is mostly a bunch of quality of life improvements over the original Mars: the cracks between the body and the screen are covered with tape so that resin can't go down to the machinery in case of spilling, it has an inbuilt carbon filter, screen is mono and slightly bigger, which means faster prints and more space on the plate, the usb connects on the front of the machine instead of the back... you know, logical stuff in general.

The only thing I had problems with was the building plate... because eveything sticks yto it SO. VERY. MUCH. Seriously, it's not even funny. I've ended up sanding it a bit.

Quality wise it supposedly has a slightly lower resolution (due to the screen being 2k but a tad bigger) but I've yet to notice anything in that regard.

And it is faster, but not as much faster as you'd think at first (it's about twice as fast), because at the end of the day, the time the lights are on is a thing, but the time it spends moving the plate up and down is much more. So there's that.

Presumably the real benefit there is if the screen is only on 1/3 the time it means you can print 3x as much before it burns out... on top of the 4x expected lifespan for a total of 12x expected output in a screen's life. I more than half expect some other part of the printer will become the bottleneck and regularly burn out before the screen does.

Ok, so the Hunter is done.

It's only been since 1995 >_>

Great paint, lots to like - props on the camo + missile caution marks in particular, and nice solid print

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Great paint, lots to like - props on the camo + missile caution marks in particular, and nice solid print

Thank you

Well, this seems to be Gear month, so this week I've printed one of (well, two, actually, but eh ^^) Anvil Digital Forge's Light Mechs, with a combination of low and high tech parts:



And a size comparison with the trusty Hunter:






As you can see, size-wise is very much in line with a Gear, although with varying proportions. Interestingly enough, the Hunter ens up looking much more heavily armored, but the Light Mech looks nimbler.

I could see that at maybe an alternative pre-hunter prototype Northern gear from the past of TN! Or even an early Paxton prototype as well.

 warboss wrote:
I could see that at maybe an alternative pre-hunter prototype Northern gear from the past of TN! Or even an early Paxton prototype as well.

Mainly I can see what a professional designer could make out of Heavy Gears. It would be glorious.

Well, that's finished. Fst and dirty, but easy enough:









I mean... it's not a Heavy Gear, but it's totsally adjacent ^^

That looks great, fast paint job or not. Lovely stuff.

Dude, you're a real monster of a print!
So many very small models. You just need to buy yourself a 4k resolution printer!

Ahhhh, man... I want a mech army now!!
Seriously, great work and so inspiring!

Haha, thanks guys ^^

I thought about getting a 4k printer, but... to be completely honest, the amount of detail these things print is already astounding, so I'm not in too much of a hurry to upgrade. Plus, you need other, more expensive resins, to get the full experience.

This weekend I printed some OG Battletech minis, and I've just finished painted an old school Wolverine WVR-6R

Love the Battletech prints! These look even better than the originals

Thanks for sharing

Random drifter passing through. Just stopped to say your Iron Warriors are *perfection* - so much character! They look great dude

That's some great green on the mech.

So... yesterday I did some experimentation.

I got hold of files to print a VF-1 Valkyrie on FDM at 1:45, with added parts for the Super version... so I am experimenting trying to see if they'd work for the (crappy) RRT miniatures:

First test wasn't too bad, a bit too big. I still needed to sand off mos of the dies of the legs, though. And I also needed to assemble a RRT mini, which is a chore in and of itself >_>

Still, not bad at all:




It was a quick test print for scale, so I printed it at 50 microns per layer, so it could be better... but still, much more detailed already than the crappy plastics. What a surprise, whoop de doo.

Priming it actually allows to see something, though:






All in all, not bad for a first try, but I'd like to find a way to make the details deeper.

...also, it would be better to actually print the whole model, because the RRT ones are fething gak -_-

Printed a little Dark Mech priest, I'm sure I'll have something to use it for ^^

Nice! In all seriousness, is there something that makes him Dark Mech or is that just because your a filthy traitor IW player? Even regular Admech is way down the body horror roborabbit hole imo.

Well, it's mainly a Dark Mech because the creators say it is ^^. I'm sure there's no way my loyal warriors in iron would stoop to affiliate themselves with that

Just painted a batch of clone shinies, just out of Kamino on their first deployment:



Did another batch, but they went bad:






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Also finally primed the Rebel Commandos I printed last weekend. Now you can actually see them!

Love the variety in those rebel scum. Where did you get the Bad Batch files? I know Skullforge do a set, but it has Crosshair rather than Echo.

 Paradigm wrote:
Love the variety in those rebel scum. Where did you get the Bad Batch files? I know Skullforge do a set, but it has Crosshair rather than Echo.

It's from Dark Fire Designs' Patreon, same as the other clones. The rebels are from Madox.

Finished Captain Rex from the 501st:





The idea here was to show the difference between the veteran, tough cap Rex and a new shiny just out from Kamino:

Nice work. Is he typically weathered in the cartoon? I stopped watching in the first season. Ashokha was just too annoying early on.

 warboss wrote:
Nice work. Is he typically weathered in the cartoon? I stopped watching in the first season. Ashokha was just too annoying early on.

Mostly all of the clones are tipically weathered unless they're shinies, hence the nickname.

As to the series, it has really high ups and really low downs, but on the whole I think it's quite worth a watch.

I've heard the same but it's a big time investment. I tend to binge watch addictively.

And, yeah, I hear she becomes a very interesting nuanced character later on. I just don't know how long the "sky guy" annoying preteen sidekick phase lasts.

 warboss wrote:
I've heard the same but it's a big time investment. I tend to binge watch addictively.

And, yeah, I hear she becomes a very interesting nuanced character later on. I just don't know how long the "sky guy" annoying preteen sidekick phase lasts.

Oh, yeah, snips turns out great, and she has multiple really good storylines.

She also helps a lot in shaping Anakin's character and turns him into a really nuanced and interesting man in turn. The Clone Wars cartoon probably does more for Anakin than for any other character.

I really love Clone Wars, the cartoon but also the era in Star Wars. Such a rich universe with many heroes (including many jedi), many villains (including many sith) and plenty of side players, set against all the military maneuvers. Distinctly opposed, for me anyway, to the more narrow storytelling of New Hope onwards, where we have our handful of Capital-H Heroes and 1-2 Capital-V Villains swirling dramatically around each other.

But anyway, I really came here to compliment your Legion stuff, always cool to see another batch come off the printer and travel through the painter

Love the Legion stuff - yet more variety for this plog!

Thanks for sharing

Thank you for taking a look and commenting

Today I just finished up a new batch of clones, this time Phase 2 and quite grimier than the last ones:

...and second Phase 2 squad done:



Fast and dirty job, mainly to get them out of the way fast ^^

Nice work, love the distinition between the vets and the shinies. Must be quite the legion all lined up (pun most definitely intended).

Appreciate the marking differences between the two squads (and how weathered it is), plus obviously the grime on the vets

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Appreciate the marking differences between the two squads (and how weathered it is), plus obviously the grime on the vets

Thank you . I'm pretty happy with them myself, seeing as every squad (but the shinies, because clean bright colors are the hell) took only one paint session.

Well, this weekend I decided to make good of the money I'm pouring on Madox's Patreon

I started with a whole lot of Imperial Spec Ops troopers and Inferno Squad:




I really like how dynamic their sculpts are, they are really cool and interesting. For example, take this spec ops trooper jumping over a crate:





Given the surcharge GW seems to apply to their dynamic minis, I kinda wonder what would the pricetag be if they sold this one ^^

Moving on to a squad of Death Troopers:



Then I also printed some filthy rebels, starting with a twilek raider squad (probably would count as rebel veterans or pathfinders, or maybe would be interesting to mix them into other units to lower the amount of regular humans on them):



I also did a twilek sniper team:




And a clown car (rebel landspeeder, which is basically their version of a technical, with added drive-by missile launcher!):




I'm loving all the absolutely gorgeous stuff it's out there for Legion, and the fact that the game is quite interesting helps, too!

Primed the three Imperial squads black, so now you can actually see all the detail!:

The unhelmeted heads look a little large, but the detail o all of those models is superb!

How do you get it so smooth??? I ran a 10 micron layer height model, and it still looks like a tiny relief map!

 Flinty wrote:
The unhelmeted heads look a little large, but the detail o all of those models is superb!

How do you get it so smooth??? I ran a 10 micron layer height model, and it still looks like a tiny relief map!

For starters, I do some tests to get the "sweet spot" for layer time for each layer height I try, meaning I have tests usually for 50 microns and for 20 (the above are all 20 microns except for the landspeeder, which is 50).

For example, this is an example of an "ok" test, but nowhere near perfect, with the test I use:



All the details are there, so that's good, but there's some overcuring, as the letters are a big too thick, and the center figures fuse at the middle, where they shoud be barely touching, so that means there's room for improvement.

Now, this second is basically the sweet spot for the resin and layer height:



As you can see, everything is there again, which is great, but the layers dimensions are much tighter.

This is important, because one of the things that make layers noticeable is that many times they overcure or undercure a bit, so there's a bigger "step" than it should. On minis, it is actually pretty noticeable.

That's one thing: the other is making a good use of the anti aliasing and similar options: one thig you need to understand is that, the bigger you set those, the less sharp the layers are going to be... yes, it might make layers less noticeable, but usually... try to not overdo it. I usually set it at 2.

Lastly, movement speeds and ligh off delays: as a general thing, if you lower the speed a bit it will help to avoid supports failures and layer sliding, so that's important.

The Ligh off delays are something that I usually see people set it at 0, and it's actually an important setting, and more important the more viscous the resin you use is: basically, it's a delay between layers that allows the resin to set correctly for the next, imporoving quality. Sonic has a very handy calculator for that, that I heartily reccomend:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19nPJ16sjrXwjgUk_S3x7mDkPCXnz3-_wBngHrcXhaw0/edit?fbclid=IwAR3cTu_zGaf51TBWTCO8TrLpCNFW3C5zxBQHSeLrbB5ynz_YWTwZgncbjB4#gid=1981963383

It will allow you to set the proper light off times for your other settings.

Finished the helmeted Spec Ops, meaning I have a full regular unit and Inferno Squad:







For these I've started to play around with stark, pure white lights on the armor and gloss varnish on the armor, boots and gloves. Just to have a bit of a change from all the pure black ^^

Lovely work.

I’ve just run 6 different versions of the same model using different exposure times (between 2.5s and 1.2s) and layer heights (between 50 and 10 micron) some with 2xaa and others without, and I can’t see any difference at all…

I have been using the default Mono light off setting of 0.5. I see the spreadsheet you linked to would suggest 5.5s. Is that not a tad long?

 Flinty wrote:
Lovely work.

I’ve just run 6 different versions of the same model using different exposure times (between 2.5s and 1.2s) and layer heights (between 50 and 10 micron) some with 2xaa and others without, and I can’t see any difference at all…

I have been using the default Mono light off setting of 0.5. I see the spreadsheet you linked to would suggest 5.5s. Is that not a tad long?

It will depend on the viscousness of your resin. The thicker it is, the more it will benefit from it. The thinner it is, the less it will matter. For example, if you're using Elegoo resin, which usually is quite runny, you're probably safe using much less.

Personally I have set 7 and 8 there, but mainly because speed doesn't matter at all to me.

I have found that the best way of noticing the differences is using photos. With the naked eye I really can't see much of a difference between 50 micron layers and 20 micron ones at all, but on closeup photos it's really noticeable.

Finished the Death Troopers:



Pretty happy with them, all in all, and this kind of highlights is something I don't usually do.

I can't wait to see your take on Geode! I think he's the best new character in the High Republic. I'm curious which of his multiple poses you'll choose but I personally recommend the heroic one. I just wish they offered a presupported version of the model for ease of printing.

Dunno man, it fells a little too fiddly

So, news this week. The original Mars's plate leveling sensor broke, and it was almost two years since I bought it (so still in warranty). I called Amazon, they tried to contact Elegoo, apparently not to much avail, and then Amazon gave me the money back. So... yeah.


I kinda preordered a Mars 3 4k ^^.

Anyways, this weekend I got vaccinated and didn't have so much time to print, so I only did a test plate...

Eldar Fire Prisms, Epic scale:



Primed, to show better the detail level:



And size comparison:

Damn, those are some crisp prints.

 Paradigm wrote:
Damn, those are some crisp prints.

And remember, this is a 2k printer. I kinda want to see how a 4k would fare.

Seems like expansion beyond 4K resolution will be massively diminishing returns. They are lovely prints. The detail on the cannon crystal is great.

Looking forward to see what you can get out of the Mars 3! Hopefully it’s AA will work!

Congrats on the rebate and the surprise funds for a new printer! I didn't realize they were up to the Mars 3 already but I've been out of the hobby loop for a while now. Do you know the pixel density compared with the plate size for the 4k? I'm curious how much better than the 47 um (iirc) the original mars had this will be.

 warboss wrote:
Congrats on the rebate and the surprise funds for a new printer! I didn't realize they were up to the Mars 3 already but I've been out of the hobby loop for a while now. Do you know the pixel density compared with the plate size for the 4k? I'm curious how much better than the 47 um (iirc) the original mars had this will be.

The specs say 35 microns resolution on the XY axis.


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 Flinty wrote:
Seems like expansion beyond 4K resolution will be massively diminishing returns. They are lovely prints. The detail on the cannon crystal is great.

Looking forward to see what you can get out of the Mars 3! Hopefully it’s AA will work!

Honestly, I don't think it will get much more definition unless you go for special resins and the like.

So, the primer got a bit fethed up and grainy, but still it wasn't so bad that I couldn't use the minis to test, so here:

I haven't finished the base of this one yet, but I did it mainly because I just bought Vallejo Chipping Medium and I kinda wanted to test it, so here it is: the alien clown car

Printed and tested some of Wakes Emporium's excellent Epic not-orks:

Man those Orks look amazing! I almost feel as if I should just pack up and quit trying to do more Skinners for Vanguard Miniatures.

But yeah, really inspiring stuff.

Well, all the Krieg KT talk made me dust off my Valour Korps prints and actually finish some ^^. You might remember the first test I did, back then, using the dress WWI french uniform as a base:



I do still like this for the officers, but with all the blue of the official Krieg paintjob I decided to change the troopers to a more olive drab tone (...and yeah, then they showed the green scheme xD):





And the complete command squad, with and without the officer:

Nice work, I have always liked the Death Korps in blue, but that muted drab really does look the part, and the accent colours set it off well.

 Paradigm wrote:
Nice work, I have always liked the Death Korps in blue, but that muted drab really does look the part, and the accent colours set it off well.

Thanks! I'm pretty happy with the end result, too. Currently the idea is olive drab for troopers/subofficers and dress blue/reds for officers. Dunno what I'll do if I ever paint a commissar xD.

 Albertorius wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
Nice work, I have always liked the Death Korps in blue, but that muted drab really does look the part, and the accent colours set it off well.

Thanks! I'm pretty happy with the end result, too. Currently the idea is olive drab for troopers/subofficers and dress blue/reds for officers. Dunno what I'll do if I ever paint a commissar xD.

Um Black of course....or Grey/Black. With Medics in White so the enemy knows not to shoot them as they are non-combatants

Painted a full grenadiers squad, and I still have another I shoud do.





Honestly speaking, these guys are kinda boring to paint xD

They're looking super sharp tho! Solid sculpts / prints as well. Dig that in-scale plasma gun, but really the dude who brought the jello mold is the best

He's thinking WHY A MASK THOUGH

Maybe the womble-nose at the front is specially adapted for jelly intake in hazardous environments

Very cool stuff! I do feel you're getting distracted by the wrong scale though, get back to 6mm!

Lately I've been doing some remodelling at home, so the printers mostly went unused, but this week I got them out again.

And since it was some time since I did something big-ish, I decided to print Anvil Digital Forge's absolutely outstanding amphibious APC kit:


The presupports are magnificent, and the ways they've gone to reduce weight and hence the amount of resin needed for the kit is incredible:




As you can gather, it was not a small kit: it took three full Pro 2 plates to print.

But boy, does it look sweet:






And after a bit of priming...







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I also printed a Leviathan Dreadnought for a friend...

...well, actually, I printed two, because I had two different models and my friend wanted a Salamanders one with al melta-flamers, so at first I tried to print one model, which had much less parts and was less detailed and poseable, with the melta armas... but the arms didn't really fit the other, so I ended printing both and kept the simpler one.

This one:




And this is my friend's




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Then I fired up the fdm printer and made some extra shelve supports for an Ikea's Detolf glass cabinet:



And then I printed some colonial marinorks:



"Da killier the prey, da bigger we get!"

And oh boy , are they right xD

Nice!

you need to do an alternative version of the amphibious thingy as a civilian "duck tours" version bonus points for tourists being included!

I love the Colonial Marine orks. Have you read a book called Grunts! by Mary Gentle? If not, then you really should

Nice batch of printing I've got a few multi-plate tanks I'd like to try some time, but I keep chickening out on (that and I need to replace my FEP for the first time, really gnarly and I think is underexposing all my prints into goop).

AWESOME orks O_O

Looks cool! I'd have thought that was an ogre if the ears were shaved down.

Flinty wrote:Nice!

you need to do an alternative version of the amphibious thingy as a civilian "duck tours" version bonus points for tourists being included!

That's a certain possibility. There's even one version of the thing with the "duck" boat face ^^

I love the Colonial Marine orks. Have you read a book called Grunts! by Mary Gentle? If not, then you really should

I know of it, but I haven't really read it. I have, however, read the Damned Trilogy, by Alan Dean Foster, where humans are basically orks in the sense that they're the single known race that thrives in combat. It's pretty interesting.

Boss Salvage wrote:Nice batch of printing I've got a few multi-plate tanks I'd like to try some time, but I keep chickening out on (that and I need to replace my FEP for the first time, really gnarly and I think is underexposing all my prints into goop).

FEP replacing is easier than you think, you won't have a problem . And yes, multi plate prints are... a thing ^^. I guess we could always get a bigger printer, but... eh xD.

AWESOME orks O_O

I know, right? I do love them.

warboss wrote:Looks cool! I'd have thought that was an ogre if the ears were shaved down.

Well, they're ogryn size, so they would most certainly work as IG ogryn count-as... which is probably what I'll do xD.

I ended up printing a full colonial marinork section, except for one half of the tactical team (the AFV driver) and the full support team (the pilot and the crew chief of the dropship). But it will do for now



Tactical team (sergeant):




Section A, Fireteam 1 (Rifle Team):




Section A, Fireteam 2 (Gun Team):




Section B, Fireteam 1 (Assault Team):




Section B, Fireteam 2 (Gun Team):




By the way, six of these nine are multipart ^^. And I haven't even used the running and kneeling poses!

And lastly, I printed a five-man squad at 70% scale to see if they'd work at "regular" 40k scale:



And I'd say they would work pretty well at that scale: they're taller than regular boyz, but it's mostly the pose, and the proportions are less cartoonish, but still pretty cool:




Papsikel was kind enough to provide lychee files of everything alongside their regular supported and unsupported files... which meant that to resize the supported models I only needed to resize them, select all the supports (they're places in the same places of the mini, but as the raft doesn't change, the rest of the supports get wonky) and redo them... and voila, redone. That was fantastic, and saved me a whole ton of time

Oh, also: These are all printed at a "coarse" layer level of 50 microns: if I end up using the small ones I'd reprint them at 20 microns. These are just tests ^^.

Looks great. I really like what I assume is the sergeant with the cigar. Can you select the weapon and delete it to replace it with something more close combat? The more I look at them the more they remind me of the mercs from the Fifth Element. I hope those weapons don't have a red button!

 warboss wrote:
Looks great. I really like what I assume is the sergeant with the cigar. Can you select the weapon and delete it to replace it with something more close combat? The more I look at them the more they remind me of the mercs from the Fifth Element. I hope those weapons don't have a red button!

Well... yes and no ^^

There are five complete poses that are non-poseable (the five resized above):



and then there's a set of multiparts:






As you can see, there's a modular head with cigar, but also helmet... but this is just the first set, and they said there were going to be more.


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Yesterday I printed a Background holder for photos (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3638751):




I also printed the 5 default ugoks again at 20 microns and 70% to maybe use them as a kill team, and I took photos with the new booth:




So far, so good ^^

I then did a comparison pic with the 20-microns print and the 50-microns one:



And a size comparison with a Vostroyan sergeant:

Thanks for the review / testing of the kit, thinking about picking it up for Kill Team purposes as well. Honestly the Aliens-ness of it is the main thing holding me back, but it's easy to think of them as just differently-/better-designed space orcs and embrace it.

 Albertorius wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Looks great. I really like what I assume is the sergeant with the cigar. Can you select the weapon and delete it to replace it with something more close combat? The more I look at them the more they remind me of the mercs from the Fifth Element. I hope those weapons don't have a red button!

Well... yes and no ^^

There are five complete poses that are non-poseable (the five resized above):

Thanks for the rundown! I saw they're offered now individually through their MMF store. Can you check to see if the weapon on the sergeants back (the tommy gun) is a separate shell? Or did they combine it all into one when autofixing the models for errors.

 warboss wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

 warboss wrote:
Looks great. I really like what I assume is the sergeant with the cigar. Can you select the weapon and delete it to replace it with something more close combat? The more I look at them the more they remind me of the mercs from the Fifth Element. I hope those weapons don't have a red button!

Well... yes and no ^^

There are five complete poses that are non-poseable (the five resized above):

Thanks for the rundown! I saw they're offered now individually through their MMF store. Can you check to see if the weapon on the sergeants back (the tommy gun) is a separate shell? Or did they combine it all into one when autofixing the models for errors.

Unfortunately the second, it seems. At least with the regular Windows 3d builder it shows as a single mesh without ungroup options.

Also, printed 10 modular orks at 70%. heads and some details printed at 20 microns, rest at 50.

Quick test paint of one of the little guys (70% rescale, 50 microns) with the "usual" colonial marines "not-Vietnam is Spaaaace" scheme:

I really like your metal effect, especially on the trooper from July - super great work!!!

Cool stuff!

MDSW wrote:I really like your metal effect, especially on the trooper from July - super great work!!!

Malika2 wrote:Cool stuff!

Thanks, guys . I'm not too happy with the skin, but it was just a test anyways ^^

Other test done, this time with one of the multiparts, rescaled at 70% again and with a 32mm base. Also, a bit more clasically "orky":

looks great. Buttery smooth finish again. nice work.

 Flinty wrote:
looks great. Buttery smooth finish again. nice work.

Thanks

Oh, my, the Elegoo Mars 3 just arrived.

That means I'll need to test it, for sure xD

Is that the dlp one? You're pretty much on a yearly printer upgrade schedule now, aren't you?

 warboss wrote:
Is that the dlp one? You're pretty much on a yearly printer upgrade schedule now, aren't you?

Kinda xD. I got this one because it happened to be released just at the moment when My Mars original croaked and Amazon decided to reimburse it to me in full, so...

This is the regular sized, 4k SLA screen one.


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First two tests at 50 microns:

2.5 seconds/layer



2.4 seconds/layer



...not really a big difference, but everything looks proper sharp.

First real prints on the Mars 3, 50 microns per layer, no AA, and they look crisp AF (other than the layering, of course, but that's 50 microns for ya):

Great looking models. I think the predator style ones are meant to be female? It’s hard to tell as the sculptor has been really subtle about it…

Very crisp as you said. If it cures, we can print it!

 warboss wrote:
If it cures, we can print it!

Cheers for the test prints, next year I'll probably pick up a Mars 3 (Pro?) unless the Saturn drops enough in price to justify it, but its price seems more stable than the Martian line. Maybe Jupiter will drive it down a bit? Or is a Saturn 2 headed our way, you figure? I'm pretty out of touch with the market at large.

Those prints look fantastic... although the female Predators are truly outrageous

Thanks for sharing

Well, with everything that's been going on (I got surgery, our project went live, I finished translating a bigass Alien RPG book and started another one from a different line) I feel I've been neglecting this thread >_>, so let's fix that, shall we?

Ok, let's see... I painted some of Papsikels' prints:







Then I printed the same model with the same supports and layer height in both the Mars 2 Pro and the Mars 3, to compare, and honestly, at 50 microns with no AA, the differences are mostly minimal...



...specifically, on Artisan Ghuild's minis, which are fantastically well made for printing in current generation printers and that make sure that their detail shows. So... yeah, I probably should have tried with something worse, like a downscaled mini or the like, to see how far you can reach. Still, it shows once again that you need to sculpt for the medium.


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Then I printed this bad boy:




And dang but it's enormous!




Also, primed:





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I also bought a couple of Unseen Btech models off Cults3d, a Phoenix Hawk and a Wasp, and the certainly look the part:



Size wise they're also pretty on point with the new Catalyst stuff:





And detail wise... well, let me say, once again, feth PALLADIUM. There.

What scale are those mecha in?

Next, seeing as I've been printing a full company of Davion Guards for Btech, I felt I needed some more kuritan mechs to field, so I printed these guys:

A Mauler, because I've always loved the design since the Btech Compendium, even though it's kinda gak:



And a reimagined Unseen Warhammer, because, once again, feth PALLADIUM WITH A SPROCKET.



I actually printed two of each, because I had them already supported and sliced, so why not. Anyways, size wise they sem to match okish with the Catalyst plastics:



And then primed, so that details show up better:




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 Malika2 wrote:
What scale are those mecha in?

Battletech scale, so basically AT scale, about 1/285.

Depending on the weight scale (mechs are light, medium, heavy or assault), but they're in the same ballpark as knights, and actually I've used them as such some times ^^




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Some more stuff: size comparison of the new Aeronautica Imperialis SM stuff with the ones I have printed!





Size-wise, I'd say the Thawk is just about perfect and the other one is a tad too big, but workable enough.


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And Malika2's really pretty new AT scale buildings, in FDM and resin!

Unassembled:




Assembled:






Scale:



All in all, the FDM one should have printed better, but it kinda got problems trying to eat the mesh, although I know FDM slicers can be very finicky.

Anyways, I primed both and printed the FDM one with some added flock to hide some of the issues:





The other is still only primed, though:

Test print of some tiny space elves for Epic:



As always, bare resin is tricky, but it looks better the moment you prime it. The only real problem of these minis is that the stretched arms with shuricats are really, really fragile.



Absolutely gorgeous models, and comparatively easy to paint because of it:





Some size comparisons with Warmaster models (Epic is tiny, heh):

They look great. Simple shading paint jobs work so well at that scale.

Maaaaaaan, you’re at it again! Keep up the good work.

While the minis are indeed superb, I am so jealous and impressed with your perfect JSI Wundel test!! Nice job, you got it dialed in perfectly!

 MDSW wrote:
While the minis are indeed superb, I am so jealous and impressed with your perfect JSI Wundel test!! Nice job, you got it dialed in perfectly!

Hahahah, thanks!

Yeah, I'm pretty happy with the current configuration for the regular Elegoo Grey resin.I bought two new sets from two different manufacturers (one local, which I hope will be good, as I'd prefer to buy as local as possible), and another chinese which was on offer and I've had them recommended. We'll see.

This weekend I've printed some teensy tiny Aspects:

Have you had any problems with warpage of the slender barrels? Any tips on controlling it? I have found that the Elegoo resin I’m using is pretty good for warm water reshaping, but best to avoid in the first place

 Flinty wrote:
Have you had any problems with warpage of the slender barrels? Any tips on controlling it? I have found that the Elegoo resin I’m using is pretty good for warm water reshaping, but best to avoid in the first place

Not usually, no, but I print quite slow in general so that should reduce the risk. When it has happened (sometimes before curing thin swords and things like that want to curly into themselves) the usual hot/cold water combo has worked.


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Painted the first detachment of eldar guardians:

Fun stuff of late, and very pretty tiny Eldar

The sculpts are absolutely superb, let me tell you (bought at Cults3d from Lord Chronos, in case you're interested).

Primed the Aspect Warriors, and the detail is mind blowing:







All the separate teeth on those chainswords, good god!




And to give the proper scale, "banana for scale":



All printed in the same batch, on my Mars 2 Pro at 20 microns per layer with Elegoo Grey resin and AA 2.

Holy wow, those are just insane. I thought the results you were getting for 10mm Warmaster were pushing the printer to its limits, but these are next level.

Those are ridiculously sharp!

Very clean!!!

 Flinty wrote:
Great looking models. I think the predator style ones are meant to be female? It’s hard to tell as the sculptor has been really subtle about it…

Possible explanation for that mishap:

3D-printer accessed Skyrim mods prior printing as the female alien looks like my Skyrim characters.

Jokes aside, great models.

Have you already printed the whole Predator team? I would like to see Carl Weathers who starred in MK X as a skin for Jax.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
Great looking models. I think the predator style ones are meant to be female? It’s hard to tell as the sculptor has been really subtle about it…

Possible explanation for that mishap:

3D-printer accessed Skyrim mods prior printing as the female alien looks like my Skyrim characters.

Jokes aside, great models.

Have you already printed the whole Predator team? I would like to see Carl Weathers who starred in MK X as a skin for Jax.

Not really, I didn't have anything immediate to use the for, so the ones I printed were more to test the Mars 3.

Anyways, I printed the Reapers and the Dragons:

So I've been printing more little space elfs:

Some transports:





Some tanks (also transports ):





As I didn't find good Vyper models (the ones I did find were either too basic, designed for fdm, or just rescaled stuff waaaay too fiddly), I decided to rescale some old schoo Falcons that I found, which are interestingly looking:

First I tested a print with a new resin I bought produced locally, which is more bendy and less rigid than the regular Elegoo stuff:



I only managed to print correctly 2 out of 12, but that's mostly due to the cold and to me not being used to the new resin. In is cool that it retains a bit of springiness even after cured, though. So, interesting, all in all.

Now, size wise they look like this, which I think is adequate for Vyper proxies:




And then I printed another batch with the regular resin:






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And then, some super heavy stuff:






...and two scout titans ^^

They really look great both in terms of printing detail as well as your support cleanup.

I always liked Epic Eldar vehicles back in my 'flipping through White Dwarf in the '90s' days, the aesthetic looks really great en mass. And damn if you haven't amassed them! Good stuff that has me stupidly wondering about printing up that Saim-Hann armored company of my dreams

warboss wrote:They really look great both in terms of printing detail as well as your support cleanup.

Thanks! Epic stuff is usually easier, though

Boss Salvage wrote:I always liked Epic Eldar vehicles back in my 'flipping through White Dwarf in the '90s' days, the aesthetic looks really great en mass. And damn if you haven't amassed them! Good stuff that has me stupidly wondering about printing up that Saim-Hann armored company of my dreams

Yeah, the general look is really appealing. And the comparison with the human stuff is nice, too!

Also, scale:

Frightening!

Very cool

Ok... so we'll call it finished I guess:

That is fantastic, such clean work and that colour choice is perfect!

Yes, stellar paint jobs!!!

How fragile are the printed eldar titans?

 bbb wrote:
How fragile are the printed eldar titans?

Well, they're resin, so about as much as FW stuff I'd say?


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Paradigm wrote:That is fantastic, such clean work and that colour choice is perfect!

MDSW wrote:Yes, stellar paint jobs!!!

Thanks!

Finished up a lance, and half of it is printed, so I'll leave it here too:

Another printed Wolverine here, so I'll post it here for completeness:

Fuego alert! This stuff is very clean! Well done!

Nice work on the panel lines and lenses. And happy upcoming New Year!

Malika2 wrote:Fuego alert! This stuff is very clean! Well done!

warboss wrote:Nice work on the panel lines and lenses. And happy upcoming New Year!

Thank you very much, and happy new year (already over here)! Akemashite Omedeto!

I'm getting ready to go back to the gaming table in person (hopefully next month the... <waves vaguely> whole Omicron situation will be remitting here, give how fast it has spiked) and I plan to GM a Lancer RPG campaign.

Lancer is a mecha RPG with deeply tactical mecha combat, and I've started printing stuff for that.

Right now, I'm planning to use 'mechs for Size 1 frames because I'll be using hexmaps and... well, because I have a lot and they look the part with the rest of the stuff in 15mm.

For starters I've printed for plates of 15mm stuff from TripleSpireWorkshop's "Space Conscripts" Kickstarter:



I... have printed a lot of guys xD

Now, Size 1 frames are more or less Heavy Gear-sized, so as I said, battlemechs look ok side by side:







For the record, Lancer units go from Size 1/2 to Size 4, usually, with Size 4+ being comparatively rare. These are the equivalencies they give:

Size 1/2: Humans, some small mechs, extravehicular activity (EVA) suits.
Size 1: Standard mechs (on the whereabouts with Heavy Gear's gears)
Size 2: Tanks, vehicles ( e.g. APCs or construction vehicles), heavy mechs (these would be equivalent to most battlemechs)
Size 3: Siege mechs, large or heavy vehicles (probably the heaviest battlemechs would fit here)
Size 4+ Titanic mechs, flyers (getting close to the size of scout titans, here)

Also, these would be the "base sizes" on a hexmap:



So, as I said, 'mechs I think fit for Size 1.

Also, I primed some of the infantry to get better detailed pics:





They are small, yes... but it's a matter of perspective ^^

LANCER! One of those rad games that I'll likely never get to but would love to play. Very cool to see you tackle it, 3D printing and all. Color me pumped to track your progress representing and playing it

 Boss Salvage wrote:
LANCER! One of those rad games that I'll likely never get to but would love to play. Very cool to see you tackle it, 3D printing and all. Color me pumped to track your progress representing and playing it

Yes indeed, Lancer is an absolutely fantastic game, and it's mainly the answer to the question "how would a moder designer create a Battletech RPG?": incredibly deep tactical combat couple with an equally deep licensing and mech design system which allows the players to play exactly how they want to and that, as usually with more tactical systems, the difference when the PCs actually work together is incredible. I'm also translating the free part of the game into spanish, because it's so cool.

Ok, so test paint of one of the infantry models. Pretty sure these will work ok as hercynian rangers:







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Painted the rest of the ones I primed, so here they are:

Ok, full unit done then.

I plan to use these guys as Hercynian rangers for the upcoming campaign:

Armed ATV done




And family photo so far:

Infantry is super cute at that scale

Good looking work. Hope the campaign goes well.

I assume those cars are drones? No way a person fits in them.

 DarknessEternal wrote:
I assume those cars are drones? No way a person fits in them.

Hehe xD. Well, they're stylized models, so all bets are off, but there's an open topped version:



They clearly have the heads cut off when closed xD

The version that's supposed to be a troop transport is even funnier, as it would be BMP-like inside ^^

Ok, I finished the tank and the extra turrets:



I am overcompensating for the cold, so the layers are more noticeable than usual, but they also are more noticeable because I'm brush priming very thin and then mostly drybrushing and washing, so all layers are very evidently there ^^. The moment I use actual regular paint (like on the camo bloats) they vanish easily xD. It's actually fun to see

They look great. The tank models remind me of Advance "Wars, in a good way

Regarding the layer lines, if you hold one in your hand, can you see them that clearly? the first image you have to look pretty closely at to see anything untoward.

 Flinty wrote:
They look great. The tank models remind me of Advance "Wars, in a good way

Regarding the layer lines, if you hold one in your hand, can you see them that clearly? the first image you have to look pretty closely at to see anything untoward.

Nah, on hand all that's invisible. It's just in photos, but it's there still ^^

Great little tank, impressive array of turrets! Really nice dark metal too.

Tiny infantry are sweet as well, dig the design as well as paint work. Interesting inverted? bases on them, I guess to slot into vehicles and maybe into movement trays?

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Great little tank, impressive array of turrets! Really nice dark metal too.

Tiny infantry are sweet as well, dig the design as well as paint work. Interesting inverted? bases on them, I guess to slot into vehicles and maybe into movement trays?

That's the idea'yes, to slot them easier onto stuff. The Ks includes a "ring" for lack of better word to convert them into more regular bases, but I have yet to print any.

Some NPCs done, again for the Lancer RPG:

Finished the set of NPCs... now I seem to have an army. I might use them as tau auxiliaries for 40k in 15mm ^^



...so now I've printed a fuckton of mechas from Papsikels to make PCs and NPCs ^^



(that and two plates more, not depicted >_&gt

I'll start with this guy, which will be one of my players' first ride, a close combat-specced Everest (The Everest if the default frame starting characters get, as starting characters at License Level 0 only get the GMS license, and they can mod it with GMS equipment and guns)




The infantry is honestly a bit on the big side, but that way it will be easier to handle, so I'm not complaining.

I also printed more bases and a first set of Size 1 to Size 4 bases, again for Lancer, so I made a couple of comparison pics for my players so they have a rough idea of what a Size means:

Size 1/2 (the infantry trooper, but also battlesuits), and then Size 1, 2, 3 and 4



And a different one, swapping the Size 2 mecha for a tank and the Size 4 bigass mecha for an infantry squad, which as a unit occupies a Size 4.

Ok, I've assembled a bunch of the frog mechs (FMP Savages, Watanabe trooper droids) and an assortment of fukimasa combat droids, all from Papsikels:

I think I like the look of the middle skinny robots the most. They're clearly differentiated from manned mechs in that regard.

 warboss wrote:
I think I like the look of the middle skinny robots the most. They're clearly differentiated from manned mechs in that regard.

The Watanabe droids are based off Full Metal Panic's Rk-92 Savage arms slave, so it stands to reason it feels "off" somewhat as an unmanned, human sized drone:

https://fullmetalpanic.fandom.com/wiki/Rk-92_Savage

The beefier fukimasa drones are the regular ones with extra armor plates bolted on, which is nice.

Cool. I wasn't aware of that. I watched Full Metal Panic when it first came out on dvd here but not since and definitely didn't remember that.

I am a big fan of the regular series and also (even moreso) of FMP! Fumoffu, which is the more comedic of the series by far.

But yeah, the Savages are very distinctive and I loved them in FMP, so... ^^

Anyways, I did a fast and dirty test paint of one of the Fukimasa "lankies" to see how they'd look in olive drab:




(How it started)

So far I'm digging it. Also, as I'm planning on using these guys as hercynian rangers mechas, I wanted to try and add some shrubbery and stuff to help them break the mech's silhouette:




(How it's going)

Nice! Those are the skinnies i was referring to above. Can yiu compare them to various gears and other HG stuff? I'm guessing they're midway between a scout gear and FLAIL.

 warboss wrote:
Nice! Those are the skinnies i was referring to above. Can yiu compare them to various gears and other HG stuff? I'm guessing they're midway between a scout gear and FLAIL.

Well, I don't have any HG minis right here, so that's a no until the weekend at least, but I have some battlemechs...

No rush! It was just a meek request at your discretion too, lol.

I didn't manage to did it last week, but hopefully this one ^^

What I did manage is to sort of finish the PCs' rides:



At least until they tell me how they want to mod them.

Nice and crisp. Are the players all starting with the same base chassis?

 warboss wrote:
Nice and crisp. Are the players all starting with the same base chassis?

Yep, characters are all License Level 0, which means they currently only have access to GMS equipment and the one chasis, the GMS-01 Everest

So you'll be reprinting/repainting their mechs custom for each level? Cool use of the printer!

 warboss wrote:
So you'll be reprinting/repainting their mechs custom for each level? Cool use of the printer!

Yup, that's the idea, to sort of picture their evolution with their minis ^^

So, I took some comparison pics of the PCs ride and the Size 1 NPC I painted with some HG stuff:

Side by side comparison between both:


Everest




Hercynian Ranger:

Cool! I didn't realize you were one of those jerks that make the rest of us look bad by quartering your rocket tip paint jobs. I should have given your 6mm work on display here but didn't.

I think my fav from the new batch is ghillie sniper mech.

 warboss wrote:
Cool! I didn't realize you were one of those jerks that make the rest of us look bad by quartering your rocket tip paint jobs. I should have given your 6mm work on display here but didn't.

I think my fav from the new batch is ghillie sniper mech.

I did it before it was cool, actually. DP9 started doing it after I showed that boy on the forums xD

As to the guillie sniper, I though it would be cool to have the "local" faction (hercynian rangers) to do that with their mechs.

some great stuff in here.. liking the grass on the bots .. nice design.. and the epic stuff is well epic

Just printed a bunch of the absolutely excellent Goby infantry drones from Pipermakes:



Size-wise they are just a bit taller than regular fire warriors, and the detail is excellent:



The kit has a whole ton of options, too, with variant heads, gobs of arms, shoulder mounts and backpacks to make 2-armed and 4-armed versions:




Of course, primed they are much easier to parse:



And I painted one to test the new Speed Paints, all in all they work pretty well:

Ok, so speed paints are at least fast xD

Nice. You're liking the new Speedpaints? I've been curious how they'd look on scifi minis. And, yeah, Piper has some really cool suit designs up on cults.

I really like those suits there .

Dig the drone warriors, nice work slamming that squad out! Glad you added the extra green glow to the dudes themselves, the extra contrast is a nice touch.

 warboss wrote:
Nice. You're liking the new Speedpaints? I've been curious how they'd look on scifi minis. And, yeah, Piper has some really cool suit designs up on cults.

So far it's working nicely. I find they dry much cleaner over flat surfaces than contrasts, so they have a different use case for me at least, for when I wanna paint fast something more tech-like. They also seem to do much more capillary action and go for the panel lines like crazy, so that's another plus.

The reactivation issue so far hasn't been a problem, but I'd advice to varnish the mini after finishing the speed paint parts.


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 Theophony wrote:
I really like those suits there .

They're lovely minis. And so many options!


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 Boss Salvage wrote:
Dig the drone warriors, nice work slamming that squad out! Glad you added the extra green glow to the dudes themselves, the extra contrast is a nice touch.

Thanks! Yeah, I felt that too, that's why I added the extra touch,as they felt way too flat otherwise

Speaking of sweet Tau drone sculpts, have you seen PiperMakes' work? Amazing designs. I think I prefer the bipedal troopers of yours over their lil' tachikoma duders, but the big drone suits are fantastic.

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Speaking of sweet Tau drone sculpts, have you seen PiperMakes' work? Amazing designs. I think I prefer the bipedal troopers of yours over their lil' tachikoma duders, but the big drone suits are fantastic.

Those are Pipermakes' ^^

!!!!

In my defense, none of the little dudes are on their GumRoad

EDIT: But they are over here > https://comicsgamesandthings.com/shop/?partner=pipermakes

FWIW, they're also not on their cults page. I'm not sure why they're fragmenting their stuff like that.

 warboss wrote:
FWIW, they're also not on their cults page. I'm not sure why they're fragmenting their stuff like that.

No, it's just that these are from this month's patreon, so they aren't yet on Cults. I guess they will, eventually, but I'm not sure how long do they take to port them there.

Ah, ok. Didn't realize they had one but probably should have figured they did. When I was regularly following them, it seemed like the new stuff went up on their cults page where I followed them. They'd preview it WIP on facebook and it would pop up there a few days later.

Trying to get to paint faces and stuff once again, I've painted an Artisan Guild dwarf barbarian I printed a while ago:

Hm, I've been neglectic the thread, haven't I.. let's see...

Lately I've been printing:

- A shieldmaiden warband for a friend, to use in Frostgrave. As this was to be used in conjunction with Victrix's absolutely excellent vinigs sprues, we had to finagle about with the scale.

The first attempt was... not really successful



So I had to scale them at about 85% (I actually scaled the supported files, without any problem)




Quite a bit better ,and all the detail printed without issues



- I also printed a giant for a D&D GM friend:



- A bunch of Statuesque heads, which I then started to attach to multiple stuff:










They take to paint really well, too! (that's simply contrasts)





- Bunches of alien rebels from Anvil Digital Forge, PCs from Mutant Chronicles and Alien and CP2077 stuff from Paksikels:












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- Did a comparison between one of the MC's resin printed characters and the same one from the Siege of the Citadel boardgame:






- Printed some Red Nebular's 10mm stompas





- And painted some assorted stuff!

The MC character (all Speed Paints, plus Agrax wash)





CP2077 NPC (speed paints and contrasts, took about 10 minutes)




Anvil Digital Forge Bird Alien (Speed Paints + Agrax wash)




Epic ork trukks (regular paint + rust effects test)




Lancer RPG NPC big bad for ous second session






Leviathan dread that I painted may 4th to celebrate "May the IVth be with you"

Levi-Dreads are best Dreads! I always find painting lots of metallics over prints a bit rough, but that one looks great! Lovely use of spot colours too, the green really pops.

Love the Giant. where's he from?

Certainly keeping busy! Lots of great stuff, but biggest shoutout to the Lancer spider boss, crap is that awesome O_O

And I'll say it: RIP mold lines, yikes in that comparison shot!

 Paradigm wrote:
Levi-Dreads are best Dreads! I always find painting lots of metallics over prints a bit rough, but that one looks great! Lovely use of spot colours too, the green really pops.

Love the Giant. where's he from?

Thanks!

The giant is this guy, without the rider and embiggened. I hollowed it out, cut the arms and added pegs for easy assembly:

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/gigante-de-warhammer


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 Boss Salvage wrote:
Certainly keeping busy! Lots of great stuff, but biggest shoutout to the Lancer spider boss, crap is that awesome O_O

And I'll say it: RIP mold lines, yikes in that comparison shot!

Thank you

Yeah, the comparison is... stark, even though the boardgame mini is decent.

So, in hopes that I might eventually get to play 30k, I printed a couple of Preds for my IWs:

Those predators look so smooth! Good to see the appropriate dome-turrets being used.

Your previous update is so dense its hard to start

It all looks great is probably a good place to start

The female head on the Reiver works particularly nicely. the torso armour on that set in particular lends itself to a more androgynous look anyway. If this lady ever comes up on sale, I will likely purchase for the funs:
https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-female-armored-soldier-173944


Loving all the random aliens as well. Loads of lovely stuff. and the 10minute paint jobs are also extremely well done

That's a very nice model, Flinty, but I agree, $8 is a tad too high for just the one...

Ok, this week I'm printing 15mm marines

So far I've printed about 20 Mk IIIs and some Mk VIs with the SoH emblem added:




One of the joys of 3d printing is being able to do stuff like this very easily, if you so choose

The baby beakies are so cute! I think the helmet shape still looks great at this scale, where the mk3s are a bit bland.

 Flinty wrote:
The baby beakies are so cute! I think the helmet shape still looks great at this scale, where the mk3s are a bit bland.

Yeah, I'm pretty happy with how they look, tbh ^^.

Also, I based the two full plates:

Seems like a good way to get the scale of HH battles a little more impressive! Are these minis designed for 15mm, or did you scale down and edit regular ones?

 Paradigm wrote:
Seems like a good way to get the scale of HH battles a little more impressive! Are these minis designed for 15mm, or did you scale down and edit regular ones?

In both cases both are originally designed for 6mm/Epic/AT, and you have to scale them up to about 220%. The beakies are a bit more detailed, probably because they're newer.

As a general thought, I believe that current 40k would probably be much better played at 15mm, what with the amount and size of the stuff they want us to use.

Size wise, this is what they look like against a regular sized one:

It's great that the 6mm figs upscaled are detailed enough to still work. Have you tried and had success with downscaling 32mm 40k figs as well? My guess is that they might need a 110% scale in the xy to "thicken" them up a bit for ease of printing with thin parts. Anything more than that in my old experience and they start to look distorted.

 warboss wrote:
It's great that the 6mm figs upscaled are detailed enough to still work. Have you tried and had success with downscaling 32mm 40k figs as well? My guess is that they might need a 110% scale in the xy to "thicken" them up a bit for ease of printing with thin parts. Anything more than that in my old experience and they start to look distorted.

It very much depends on the mini. The daintier ones are usually too thin even for 28-32mm, whereas other companies go for sturdier. Anvil Digital Forge's minis, for example, usually work quite well.

Also, I've primed a set of the minis.

The Mark IIIs show clearly they are meant for Epic scale in the amount of triangles:



But the beakies? smooth as fething butter, those are:

Yeah, there is a big difference between the two. If I still had access to 3ds max, I could increase the poly count with a single click to smooth out those triangles (at the cost of sharpness of square angles which would also get rounded off). Unfortunately, none of the programs I regularly use can do that (only simplify) though I'm guessing blender likely has the function buried under 20 difference commands.

In edit mode just look at the item tab of the sidebar. In the edges section you'll see mean crease, that's what you want to keep sharp edges when you subdivide. You can also assign edges to a vertex group and use a bevel modifier. Provided the topology isn't half assed ofc.
I'd love to see a huge game of 40k at 15mm that would be awesome.

 Fluid_Fox wrote:
In edit mode just look at the item tab of the sidebar. In the edges section you'll see mean crease, that's what you want to keep sharp edges when you subdivide. You can also assign edges to a vertex group and use a bevel modifier. Provided the topology isn't half assed ofc.
I'd love to see a huge game of 40k at 15mm that would be awesome.

I will have to check, because I know next to nothing about blender XD. Thanks!

I managed to finish a test squad of beakies, going a tad classic:

Beautiful!

Thank you

 Fluid_Fox wrote:
In edit mode just look at the item tab of the sidebar. In the edges section you'll see mean crease, that's what you want to keep sharp edges when you subdivide. You can also assign edges to a vertex group and use a bevel modifier. Provided the topology isn't half assed ofc.
I'd love to see a huge game of 40k at 15mm that would be awesome.

Thanks. I might try that out. To say that I'm a blender noob would probably be an overstatement of my knowledge of the program and that's before trying to do it on a laptop without a dedicate mouse (a big problem with blender traditionally).

And another demi squad painted, Imp Fists this time. God, but yellow is annoying xD




A bit tilted to show the bases (Agrellan Earth over dark brown)

And I finished all the minimarines I primed!

...of course I went with Iron Warriors, like there was any sort of doubt there I would ^^

Lovely crisp prints, and the paintjob hits just the right level of detail to make them pop while not being cluttered!

If my eyes weren't so poor, I'd be very tempted to embark on a similar project, this is inspiring stuff that really shows off the value of printing and the options it opens up! Alas, I stuggle enough with 28mm and print pretty much everything at 32-35mm these days, so 15mm is probably beyond me.

Those minimarines really do look great - love the metal finish and the printing of them came out really nice!

Well, this week was Eldar week at chez Albertorius













...also, I might have preordered an Elegoo Saturn 2 >_>

Teehee Yaaay for new toys!

The eldar look amazing. The banshees in particular are particularly fine.

 Flinty wrote:
Teehee Yaaay for new toys!

The eldar look amazing. The banshees in particular are particularly fine.

They're all great

But for some reason I couldn't wait to paint the banshees, I've started doing some fast base coats with speed paints (and contrast akhelian green XD)

15mm 40k is a good scale, good details and space for a lot of stuff on the board

Well, so this'll do, pig, I guess xD

These tinyK figs are awesome!

15mm seems the perfect scale for 40k

 lord_blackfang wrote:
15mm seems the perfect scale for 40k

Absolutely agreed! It's kind of the happy medium between "detail in figures" and "actually being able to play with what we're supposed to".

Looks really cool. I agree 15mm is a great size. I would love to see your collection together on the gaming table (and next to a regular 40k model for size reference).

I've been thinking of starting a 15mm scale 40k / 30k project, though I might downscale to 8mm so it works alongside AT / AI models (I know the debate of 6mm vs 8mm, I'd be going for the 8mm).

Also, my printer isn't big enough to do tanks at 15mm scale, lol.

 Albertorius wrote:
And another demi squad painted, Imp Fists this time. God, but yellow is annoying xD




A bit tilted to show the bases (Agrellan Earth over dark brown)

Exalted

You've done a great job with these! Screams Rogue Trader but done within the contemporary model painting framework & techniques In fact, I like them so much that I'm going to make them sort of a reference pict for me!

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Looks really cool. I agree 15mm is a great size. I would love to see your collection together on the gaming table (and next to a regular 40k model for size reference).

I've been thinking of starting a 15mm scale 40k / 30k project, though I might downscale to 8mm so it works alongside AT / AI models (I know the debate of 6mm vs 8mm, I'd be going for the 8mm).

Also, my printer isn't big enough to do tanks at 15mm scale, lol.

There's not really an "8mm" scale. AT is "1/4 the same in 40k" and that's that. The remark comes from distorting something one designer said during the run to AT: namely, that SMs at the scale AT was going to be "were about 8mm high".

Now, the important part is that infantry wise, all works (...almost. the plastic space marines are ridonkulously tiny, save for the scouts, which are giants), and the old Epic models are all over the place in scale, from nominally 3mm to micro scale. I decided to make all my printed stuff 1/4 for coherence, but I still use a lot of old stuff and it doesn't really matter.

What printer are you using? 15mm tanks should be eminently doable in any regular 6''-screen resin printer.

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 tauist wrote:
Exalted

You've done a great job with these! Screams Rogue Trader but done within the contemporary model painting framework & techniques In fact, I like them so much that I'm going to make them sort of a reference pict for me!

Well, I feel both honored and humbled, good sir

Indeed, nicely done. You are conducting the one TRUE great crusade in the Emperor's name! Now that you have appropriate minis, you just need to find a ruleset conducive to the mass battle format 40k has drifted towards over the decades.

The Banshees indeed look great. All this minihammer is giving me renewed interest in Horus Heresy and printing. I can't really stomach building yet another plastic marine army, and printing-wise I'm reaching capacity on how many Kings of War armies I can print and add to the paint queue

Did you post where the sculpts, particularly the tiny 30k marines, come from? Somebody on Cults I'm guessing?

 Boss Salvage wrote:
The Banshees indeed look great. All this minihammer is giving me renewed interest in Horus Heresy and printing. I can't really stomach building yet another plastic marine army, and printing-wise I'm reaching capacity on how many Kings of War armies I can print and add to the paint queue

Did you post where the sculpts, particularly the tiny 30k marines, come from? Somebody on Cults I'm guessing?

All Cults, yeah. Let's see... the Mark IIIs are from this user:

https://cults3d.com/en/users/fortyfirstmillennial/creations

But really, they are all upscaled Galactic Crusaders, of which there's literal hundreds of remizes for basically everything and anything HH.

The beakies are these:

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/galactic-brother-war-hounskull-mark-sextus-troop-6-8mm-15mm

I fixed them using 3D Builder, which for some reason changed the units from mm to cm, and the downscaled that at 25%, which maps well with my other stuff.

The eldars are from Lord Chronos, and are upscaled 220%



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 warboss wrote:
Indeed, nicely done. You are conducting the one TRUE great crusade in the Emperor's name! Now that you have appropriate minis, you just need to find a ruleset conducive to the mass battle format 40k has drifted towards over the decades.

I mean, 3rd edition 40k is right there... ^^. That said, Grimdark Future would probably work perfectly, but I don't think there's super heavies... not that I mind, tbh.

Thanks for the rundown

 Boss Salvage wrote:
Thanks for the rundown

Glad to help

Horizon Wars is a nice slick system for large engagements that should work at 15mm as well. It also has rules for super heavies and titan scale stuff.

It also has fluff that states:
“The first mechanical armoured frames - popularly known as “mechs” - were the unpredictable offspring of the Hume effect and the apparent group sociopathy of the British military elite who decided that the perfect tool for giving ‘the Frogs’ a good kicking was a tank that could actuallly kick”

It’s wonderful

Horizon Wars is a game I'm quite interested in, but that's always been hard to get here in Spain, either because it wasn't available or because it was stupid expensive >_>

 Albertorius wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Looks really cool. I agree 15mm is a great size. I would love to see your collection together on the gaming table (and next to a regular 40k model for size reference).

I've been thinking of starting a 15mm scale 40k / 30k project, though I might downscale to 8mm so it works alongside AT / AI models (I know the debate of 6mm vs 8mm, I'd be going for the 8mm).

Also, my printer isn't big enough to do tanks at 15mm scale, lol.

There's not really an "8mm" scale. AT is "1/4 the same in 40k" and that's that. The remark comes from distorting something one designer said during the run to AT: namely, that SMs at the scale AT was going to be "were about 8mm high".

Now, the important part is that infantry wise, all works (...almost. the plastic space marines are ridonkulously tiny, save for the scouts, which are giants), and the old Epic models are all over the place in scale, from nominally 3mm to micro scale. I decided to make all my printed stuff 1/4 for coherence, but I still use a lot of old stuff and it doesn't really matter.

What printer are you using? 15mm tanks should be eminently doable in any regular 6''-screen resin printer.

Yeah, I know the whole 8mm vs 6mm vs 1/4 40k scale argument, and I know you've been involved in those discussions but I couldn't remember which side you fell on and didn't want to take your thread off topic by rehashing it again I call regular 40k as 32mm scale, so 1/4 40k scale to me is equivalent to 8mm at least in my head. After your post I checked some of my vehicle STLs and it appears they are also 1/4 40k scale.

I actually kind of like aircraft being a smaller scale than the infantry, since they don't exist in the same space it makes sense to me that playing a ground based game that aircraft would be undersized, and vice versa if playing an air combat game ground features would be undersized. So if we call the aircraft 8mm I think it'd still fit well with infantry being 10 or 12mm, but then the AT stuff wouldn't fit in.

As for my printer, it's an Anycubic Mono SE. Smaller vehicles work in 15mm scale (Rhinos and whatnot) larger vehicles (Land Raiders and bigger) don't fit at 15mm scale according to the slicer software. I know models can be broken up and whatnot, but I'm pretty new to the printing game so I want something I can set up quickly and let 3D printer go brrrrrrr. I'm struggling enough figuring out how to set up the supports for some of these tanks.

That's the same size as mine... hm, let me do a couple positioning test and I'll get back to you, but at the very least singles should be very much doable (I have printed some already, but those were on the small side).

EDIT: Yeah, this is the SE's build plate, and you can fit 2 Rhinos/preds no problem (don't mind the supports, those are auto generated for show)



For a Land Raider you should be able to print one, even if you need to angle them a tad more.

EDIT2: Yup, you can fit a Land Raider no problem, and even a Baneblade (you'll need to print the turret separately though)


See? 15mm is god scale

That is a tight fit I e done my horizon wars tank armies in 10mm scale to keep the size down a bit, and I’m less interested in the infantry anyway.

If it fits, we can make it

 Albertorius wrote:
That's the same size as mine... hm, let me do a couple positioning test and I'll get back to you, but at the very least singles should be very much doable (I have printed some already, but those were on the small side).

EDIT: Yeah, this is the SE's build plate, and you can fit 2 Rhinos/preds no problem (don't mind the supports, those are auto generated for show)

Spoiler:

For a Land Raider you should be able to print one, even if you need to angle them a tad more.

EDIT2: Yup, you can fit a Land Raider no problem, and even a Baneblade (you'll need to print the turret separately though)

Spoiler:

See? 15mm is god scale

Fair enough! I'm an idiot, I was trying to align it the other way on the build plate.

I'd be really curious to see some pics of how you support models of this scale, I've tried to set up a couple of tanks and they're almost too details (like that land raider and baneblade in your pic) and I always seem to get little gaps and overhangs that are too small to fit a support into, or I spend too much time thinking about how to avoid having supports in areas where they'll be hard to remove.

Right now I'm basically doing infantry (tiny infantry kinda fascinate me xD), but I'll snap some pics when I start with tanks.

What do you use to scale the stls down?

 Illumini wrote:
What do you use to scale the stls down?

Currently? Lychee, because it's what I'm using for supporting the files too. Any slicer will allow you to scale a file. Or you could use 3d Builder, Meshmixer, Blender... anything, really, scaling is kind of the easiest thing to do.

Do you have the paid version of Lychee or just the free?

Currently I use Blender for basic modifications and then just throw them into Anycubic's software. Anycubic's software is terrible, but using blender I can put in nubs and stuff where I want supports to be, or edit out overhangs entirely (which seems to be more appropriate a lot of the time at this scale).

I started installing Lychee free version but stopped when it asked me to make an account, lol, I suppose I should give it a proper try.

I use the free version. It is very useful and user friendly. Having the account also saves your resin settings on the cloud so it’s harder to lose them.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Do you have the paid version of Lychee or just the free?

Currently I use Blender for basic modifications and then just throw them into Anycubic's software. Anycubic's software is terrible, but using blender I can put in nubs and stuff where I want supports to be, or edit out overhangs entirely (which seems to be more appropriate a lot of the time at this scale).

I started installing Lychee free version but stopped when it asked me to make an account, lol, I suppose I should give it a proper try.

I currently have the paid one, but the free version works very well.

And yeah, at small scales, overhangs mostly need to go.

 Fluid_Fox wrote:
In edit mode just look at the item tab of the sidebar. In the edges section you'll see mean crease, that's what you want to keep sharp edges when you subdivide. You can also assign edges to a vertex group and use a bevel modifier. Provided the topology isn't half assed ofc.
I'd love to see a huge game of 40k at 15mm that would be awesome.

I had a play around, is this the result you'd expect? It smoothed it out, but also created an odd texture. No idea what'd be like once printed.

After screwing around for a while, the method used in the picture below was to go to modelling mode, click on "select" then "select sharp edges" then "edge" and "edge crease" and set the value to 1. A few edges weren't caught so I manually selected those ones and did another edge crease. Then I went to "add modifier" under the "modifier properties" tab, added a "subdivision surface" and used "Catmull-Clark" with a level of 2 (it might seem like the program has frozen, but just give it a minute).



Might sound complex to someone with no Blender experience (like me!) but it was pretty quick to do, though obviously this is a blind smooth over everything so the file size got massive, and yeah, it created that weird texture.

I did also try the right click -> subdivision method rather than the modifer method, but that didn't preserve the shape near edges even when those edges were defined as edge creases.

Can you edit an existing edge crease? Because the default sharp edge select isn't perfect, but the only way I can find to go back and deselect edges is to start from scratch.

I mean, that looks pretty ace!

 Albertorius wrote:
I mean, that looks pretty ace!

I'm not sure if it's the best way to do it, but it only took maybe 5-10 minutes for a 5 man squad, so maybe give it a crack next time you have some jaggy looking STLs. Since you already worked with them on the previous page, this is what the "Boarding Armour" marines look like after a cleanup.



That was using only the auto-selected sharp edges except for the 2 lines on the shoulder pad (which you could leave unselected if you prefer to to be more rounded anyway). So yeah, maybe 5 minutes work in total for all 5 dudes to smooth them out.

I gotta say, this is a pretty inspiring process. I was going to pick up the new HH set, but realized I could get a 3d printer and do 15mm HH instead for the same price, or less!

Test printed a couple of orks, a regular boy and a certain warlord:






Size wise, they're scaled like so compared with a regular marine:

Those are some chunky boyz. The tiny Ghazkull is glorious though.

Nice.

For the true retro vibe you need to paint 20 identical Orks, 40 identical gretchin, and print an Ork Dreadnought on a piece of carboard

Look forward to seeing them painted, you manage to make 15mm scale models look bigger than they are.

So is your approach to print them unbased and then separately FDM print the bases? You find that better than printing them with the bases? I ask because all the STL models I've found seem to come with bases already.

Those orks are going to be great

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Nice.

For the true retro vibe you need to paint 20 identical Orks, 40 identical gretchin, and print an Ork Dreadnought on a piece of carboard

Look forward to seeing them painted, you manage to make 15mm scale models look bigger than they are.

So is your approach to print them unbased and then separately FDM print the bases? You find that better than printing them with the bases? I ask because all the STL models I've found seem to come with bases already.

Yeah, I highly prefer to print them separately. For one, it's using less resin and making the most of fdm printing (A set of like 40 bases get printed in an hour and a half), but more importantly, it's much easier to support.


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 Fluid_Fox wrote:
Those orks are going to be great

Here's hoping ^^


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Test paint of the regular ork, mainly with speed paints:

You’re not drilling your barrels

Is the cracked earth a texture paint you're applying or detail on the plastic base? Either way, nice job as always. Do you have 15mm scifi terrain printed out as well?


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 Flinty wrote:
You’re not drilling your barrels

Would digitally or physically drilling them out be better?

Peak printerosity would be some kind of print-in-place drill bit pre-inserted In Each barrel that you twist and it comes away

I mean, I could certainly "drill" a hole on the stl ^^.

As to the base, it's Agrellan Earth painted over dark brown.

I have a lot of scenery stl fies that I plan to make good use of

This is more or less the scale range I'm working with:

It's probably more 2nd edition goofball orky to instead model them firing with an obstructed barrel.

A somewhat tiny Margaret Thatcher:

Always love your painting of 15mm models, they come out so well and I imagine they look great on the table top. You're mostly just using contrasts/speedpaints, yeah?

Also curious, what layer height do you go for when printing small scale stuff? Are you using a printer with 50um XY resolution (like 2k / 6"), or something higher res?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Always love your painting of 15mm models, they come out so well and I imagine they look great on the table top. You're mostly just using contrasts/speedpaints, yeah?

Also curious, what layer height do you go for when printing small scale stuff? Are you using a printer with 50um XY resolution (like 2k / 6"), or something higher res?

Thank you

Well, I mostly combine methods, but contrasts/speed paints tend to work well with this scale.

I'm currently using a Mars 3, which is 4k (about 38 microns on the XY), with 0.025 layers, high light off times and slow movements. That said, most of my Epic stuff was done on a 2k printer, and it never seemed to be an issue.

 Albertorius wrote:

One of the joys of 3d printing is being able to do stuff like this very easily, if you so choose

Can I ask how you did that? I'm trying to add an Imperial Fist logo to a shoulder pad with Blender. When I "shrinkwrap" it flattens it out into nothingness.





I suppose I could modify the symbol into a 2D shape instead of the 3D shape, shrink wrap it, then somehow try to "thicken" it afterwards. Dunno if Blender has a "thicken" function though.

EDIT: After screwing around for far too long I figured out one way of doing it. Tried the 2D shape thing but that created a lot of ugly artefacts, in the end I did it with the 3D emblem....



But it was way more of a pain in the arse than I was expecting. For anyone else who wants to do it, the process was...

1. Create a 1 element thick lattice and move the lattice so it's just inside the emblem
2. Add a "lattice modifier" to the emblem and link it to the lattice from step 1. Then move the lattice and emblem to roughly where they should be. I also remeshed the emblem to make it more refined when it gets deformed in the next step.
3. Go back to the lattice and create a shrinkwrap modifier and point the target to the shoulder pad.
4. Unfortunately the shrinkwrap snaps to the nearest geometry in the target, so unless the emblem is very small it was snapping to the backpack or the rim of the shoulderpad.... so I had to go into modelling, select only the faces of the shoulder pad, duplicate them, and create a new selection which was only made up of those faces. I then went back to the shrinkwrap from step 3 and pointed it at this new shoulder pad geometry.

I got that technique from the following thread: https://blender.stackexchange.com/questions/44758/emboss-text-onto-curved-surface



That's in addition to the basic thing of making sure it's aligned where you want it and scaled correctly. Not sure if I can be bothered doing it to the other models, I just wanted to do a test print to see how it looked, wasn't expecting it to be that fiddly.

If you have a quicker way of doing it, let me know.