Appearing as a Legend of the past 100 pages:

2 Hydra Flak Tanks - 150 points.

basilisk 125pts

shrike wrote:actually, they DS behind you and hit you with 5 S6 AP4 no invul flamers. 5 wounds=dead.
2 vendettas 260pts

Actually, you drop down and MAYBE kill one of them, after that, the other one flies around and shoots you dead

Do you play 40k? A lot of the things I hear from you seem like something a person with little actual experience in the game would say.

6 warp spiders 132
... i feel like this has been going on for the last 20 pages: HYDRA!!! BASILISK!!! WARP SPIDERS!!!

Jabbdo wrote:

shrike wrote:actually, they DS behind you and hit you with 5 S6 AP4 no invul flamers. 5 wounds=dead.
2 vendettas 260pts

Actually, you drop down and MAYBE kill one of them, after that, the other one flies around and shoots you dead

Do you play 40k? A lot of the things I hear from you seem like something a person with little actual experience in the game would say.

Uh, yes...thanks for the insult, but at my FLGS there is one guy who plays daemons, and I've never played him.

Nulipuli2 wrote:6 warp spiders 132
... i feel like this has been going on for the last 20 pages: HYDRA!!! BASILISK!!! WARP SPIDERS!!!

don't forget vendettas!
valkyrie 130pts

2 Hive Guard. 100

20 IG w/2 PF 130pts

Ironclad dreadnought- 135pts

10 fire dragons- 160

The only kind of awesome kill is overkill

Nulipuli2 wrote:... i feel like this has been going on for the last 20 pages: HYDRA!!! BASILISK!!! WARP SPIDERS!!!

shrike wrote:20 IG w/2 PF 130pts

Where do you get those PFs from?

Carnifex with Adrenal Glands 170

vulture w/TL AC+6xHK missiles 160
wait how does carni beat destroyers?

how does he not?

Now another oppurtunity to post everyones favorite vehicle
2 separate hydras. 150

AlmightyWalrus wrote:Appearing as a Legend of the past 100 pages:

2 Hydra Flak Tanks - 150 points.

Cjc1223 wrote:Now another oppurtunity to post everyones favorite vehicle
2 separate hydras. 150

ignore that post

At the vulture:
Dreadnought in a pod 140

btw shrike, can i have a link to your chuck norris thread?

Nulipuli2 wrote:At the vulture:
Dreadnought in a pod 140

btw shrike, can i have a link to your chuck norris thread?

2 Basilisk artillery platforms 150pts (IIRC)
Are you mocking me? Or do you genuinely want it?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/319893.page

Here you are my good man

to beat the dreadnought, 20 Ork Shoota Boyz w/Nob + P.klaw 155pts

EDIT:// ninja'd but Shrike, the basilisks will get crunched by the dread in the drop pod.

3 biovores 48 inches away from each other. 135

Snarky wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/319893.page

Here you are my good man

to beat the dreadnought, 20 Ork Shoota Boyz w/Nob + P.klaw 155pts

EDIT:// ninja'd but Shrike, the basilisks will get crunched by the dread in the drop pod.

not if they deploy 190" away from each other.
the basilisks still stand.

Okay then the basilisks.

2 separate lictors 130

they can't assault the turn they arrive, right? so my basilisks blow one up (firing at one), the lictor kills one, and the has to leg it 190", having S9 ordnance htting him every turn. basilisks win.

shrike wrote:

Snarky wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/319893.page

Here you are my good man

to beat the dreadnought, 20 Ork Shoota Boyz w/Nob + P.klaw 155pts

EDIT:// ninja'd but Shrike, the basilisks will get crunched by the dread in the drop pod.

not if they deploy 190" away from each other.
the basilisks still stand.

That's surely sort of cheating, someone buying one unit to destroy two? And also you never mentioned it in your post....

If seperate units are allowed to be bought to beat one unit, I could quite easily come up with some ridiculous unbeatable combo, say, a Salamander Assault Vehicle spotting for a Bombard strike with two CCS with 4x plasma each escorting it and an inquisitor lord with 3x mystics next to them.

All for just under 330pts.

You won't be able to shoot them both at one because they will be one inch behind and iirc basilisks have a minimum range. What are the odds of a basilisk hitting indirectly? Also lictors have a str 6 shooting attack so on average one basisk will be damaged in some way.




You can only post multiples of the same unit. Says so in this first post.

okay, they both fire at the lictor behing the other one- shooting over each other's backs, as it were.

EDIT:// actually you won't be able to fire, since you can't place a template on a friendly model, and you can't move and shoot ordnance weapons (not a leman russ)

Fine.
5 cyclops demolition vehicles 125pts

ha, if you insist on taking multiple units...

AFC commander + 2x Medusa Strikes 175pts.

what does AFC mean? and what's a medusa strike?

It's an armoured fist commander, he rides around in a salamander (which is like a fast chimera w/autocannon)

the medusa strikes are off-table artillery strikes, when they are placed, they will arrive every turn (they're STR9 AP3) until the game ends.

Aston villa football!

shrike wrote: what does AFC mean? and what's a medusa strike?

From the forge world armoured formations, AFC+ armoured fist commander, he can spot for artillery strikes

I thought FW stuff was a no-no.

Btw... this thread is growing exponentially, I'm gone for one day and there are five more pages... >.<

This thread will easily top War in page count.

The Bringer wrote:I thought FW stuff was a no-no.

Btw... this thread is growing exponentially, I'm gone for one day and there are five more pages... >.<

This thread will easily top War in page count.

Out of interest, what is the thread with the most pages?

EagleArk wrote:

The Bringer wrote:I thought FW stuff was a no-no.

Btw... this thread is growing exponentially, I'm gone for one day and there are five more pages... >.<

This thread will easily top War in page count.

Out of interest, what is the thread with the most pages?

WAR!! http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/99366.page

At least I believe it is.

Since this is a new page: Countering the commander dude: BT Ven melta dreadnought in lucius pattern drop pod: 190 points IIRC.

Nulipuli2 wrote:how does he not?

D:s are jetbikes so he will never cath them while getting shot by wannabe assaut cannons

Snarky wrote:It's an armoured fist commander, he rides around in a salamander (which is like a fast chimera w/autocannon)

the medusa strikes are off-table artillery strikes, when they are placed, they will arrive every turn (they're STR9 AP3) until the game ends.

No ordnance strikes- that's why I haven't been posting "GK lancer bombardment!" and "damocles rhino!" every page.

The Bringer wrote:I thought FW stuff was a no-no.

No, apoc. stuff is a no-no.

Hey- If you scroll down when you reply, it shows all the posts from page 1.

anyway- lysander 200pts

30 Kroot - 210

shrike wrote:

Snarky wrote:It's an armoured fist commander, he rides around in a salamander (which is like a fast chimera w/autocannon)

the medusa strikes are off-table artillery strikes, when they are placed, they will arrive every turn (they're STR9 AP3) until the game ends.

No ordnance strikes- that's why I haven't been posting "GK lancer bombardment!" and "damocles rhino!" every page.

The Bringer wrote:I thought FW stuff was a no-no.

No, apoc. stuff is a no-no.

Hey- If you scroll down when you reply, it shows all the posts from page 1.

anyway- lysander 200pts

It only says Orbital strikes, nothing about timed artillery being unavailable......

anyway.. it's getting a bit old trying to not post the same old "HYDRA" "EARTHSHAKER" "VENDETTA LOL"

to the kroot

Ork Junka w/Shokk Attack Gun 120pts.

3 crisis suits w/ tl fusion blasters - 129

Ork Mega Dread w/TL Supa-Skorcha + Mega-Charger! 175pts.

5 TH/SS termies.
200pts

50 Grotz + 5 Runtherders – 200

land raider redeemer 240pts

shrike wrote:5 TH/SS termies.
200pts

the megadread would rip the TH/SS termies to shreds, it's AV13 front.

They have 15 TH/SS attacks.
10 hit, 1.6 penetrating hits, 0.55 destroyed results. You kill 0.4 terminators, the kill you in 2 turns. I win.

shrike wrote:They have 15 TH/SS attacks.
10 hit, 1.6 penetrating hits, 0.55 destroyed results. You kill 0.4 terminators, the kill you in 2 turns. I win.

Uhh no, if you deepstrike I will charge you. If you footslog to me I will charge you (megacharger). You will have 10 attacks, hitting on 4s (50% hit) (i'm WS4), with only a 2/3 getting through my 5+ invulnerable). that's 3 hits. then you need a 5 to glance, and 6 to pen. That's a total of 1 glancing hit. Then ofc you have to roll on the damage table with a 5+.

And you forget, I'm initiative 4 on charge, so I will go first with my 7 attacks that are strength 10, with 3.5 hitting, and 3 wounding, killing one outright, meaning you have even less attacks to begin with.

Also I will shoot you with my supaskorcha before I charge.

ah.
I thought it was WS3. That means the guy who I played against got it wrong...I wondered why it was so terrible for the points cost...
Would ghazghkull do it?

only if he calls his Waaagh! otherwise the 7 Str 10 powerweapons will eat him for breakfast.

nightbringer easily the best one man army

Snarky wrote:only if he calls his Waaagh! otherwise the 7 Str 10 powerweapons will eat him for breakfast.

yeah, he waagh!s.

Ultrasmurf_no_REALY wrote:nightbringer easily the best one man army

mephiston, lord of cheese 250pts

3 Broadsides, far away from each other and mephiston – 210

3 units of infiltrating ratlings in heavy cover 90pts.

2 basilisk artillery platforms 150pts (190" awa from each other)

Mawloc- 170
whats the AV on those platforms anyways?
Oh and i really did want to take a look at Chuck norris.

shrike wrote:2 basilisk artillery platforms 150pts (190" awa from each other)

A lot of the answers to this thread would be very different if one of the rules was that all models were limited to say, a one square foot area

shrike wrote:2 basilisk artillery platforms 150pts (190" awa from each other)

Shrike... the Ratlings that infiltrate will surely destroy the basilisk platforms... they have a 2+ cover save and use rending sniper rifles, a glance or pen will automatically destroy the guns.

And quit posting units that I post! Noticed you've been doing that for the past 20 pages, you obviously don't know the rules for them,.

@ Mawloc

Ionhead w/ D-pods, multi-tracker, and Burst Cannons - 135 pts. I believe.

Termicide - 130 points.

Mawloc- 170

Nulipuli2 wrote:Mawloc- 170
whats the AV on those platforms anyways?
Oh and i really did want to take a look at Chuck norris.

It's artillery and so doesn't have an AV.
5 BA TH/SS termies 225pts
The link has been posted, but:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/319893.page
My side of the story- I wanted to post pics, but a load of problems happened (they seem just an excuse, but they aren't), and then I discovered that my computer can't upload pictures for some reason. Eveyone kept calling me a liar about it and it became off-topic and got locked. While I understand that it looks like I made a load of stuff up about losing all the stuff for it, why would I lie about converting a model?

shrike wrote:
It's artillery and so doesn't have an AV.

Wrong shrike... Artillery (earthshaker platform) has an AV of 11, any glancing or penetrating hit automatically destroys it. You also seem to forget cover, deepstrik and infiltrate when putting your counter units, so when you post a counter unit, the unit before it often actually beats the unit you posted.....

VS the mawloc- LF spam, 6 LF and 5 ML. Done and done.

Dunno what a Long Fang is (something Space Wolf-y, that's all I know), and you didn't post a points cost, so...

25 Boyz - 150

Parasite of Mortrex and 9 ripper bases 250 points

Snarky wrote:

shrike wrote:
It's artillery and so doesn't have an AV.

Wrong shrike... Artillery (earthshaker platform) has an AV of 11, any glancing or penetrating hit automatically destroys it. You also seem to forget cover, deepstrik and infiltrate when putting your counter units, so when you post a counter unit, the unit before it often actually beats the unit you posted.....

+1

QFT.


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Tazz Azrael wrote:Parasite of Mortrex and 9 ripper bases 250 points

Mephiston 250

Lysander - 200

5xNecron Pariah 180

No saves for you!

30 Boyz - 180

Oh ouch.

Wraithlord with Wraithsword and Lance 140

Hammerhead - 140

anon/rassilon wrote:Hammerhead - 140

Not really a legal hammerhead, the min is 150 points with the railgun because of the Burst Cannons.

anyways - 2 Crisis Suits w/ Fusion Blasters, Missile Pods, and Multi Trackers - 108 pts.

Snarky wrote:

shrike wrote:
It's artillery and so doesn't have an AV.

Wrong shrike... Artillery (earthshaker platform) has an AV of 11, any glancing or penetrating hit automatically destroys it. You also seem to forget cover, deepstrik and infiltrate when putting your counter units, so when you post a counter unit, the unit before it often actually beats the unit you posted.....

AV of 10/10/10. I've never used or played against artillery and it doesn't say in CKoK so I thought if the crew are destroyed it can't do anything and counts as destroyed.

shrike wrote:

Snarky wrote:

shrike wrote:
It's artillery and so doesn't have an AV.

Wrong shrike... Artillery (earthshaker platform) has an AV of 11, any glancing or penetrating hit automatically destroys it. You also seem to forget cover, deepstrik and infiltrate when putting your counter units, so when you post a counter unit, the unit before it often actually beats the unit you posted.....

AV of 10/10/10. I've never used or played against artillery and it doesn't say in CKoK so I thought if the crew are destroyed it can't do anything and counts as destroyed.

Earthshaker platforms have the "Big Guns" rule that makes them AV11/11/11.....

And it does say, quite clearly. It also says in the rulebook, you randomize hits between the crew and gun.

VS the Crisis Suits.

Death Riders, 90pts.

some insight to what death riders are please?

Death Riders are basically "super" rough riders. They have WS4 and a 6+invulnerable and may reroll difficult and dangerous terrain tests.

4 Raveners 120

SW Rune Priest with JotWW and living lightning, and a Chooser of the Slain. 110 points. SIt back and watch the Raveners die.

4 cyclops demolition vehicles 100pts

(deploying about 120" away)

dunno what they are, but im posting my take-all-down unit

6 Warp spiders 132

nah, cyclops are AV 10/10/10 demo charges that drive around. Your DA will DS, shoot one, and then die to the rest exploding on them.

SW Rune Priest with Tempests Wrath and Living Lightning (one is an unlimited range autocannon with 1-6 shots, the othe says deepstrike and jumppack movement is dangerous and difficult terrain within 24 inches of him). Hes like a SW psyker. 100 points.

shrike wrote:nah, cyclops are AV 10/10/10 demo charges that drive around. Your DA will DS, shoot one, and then die to the rest exploding on them.

Have you even read the rules for the Cyclops? The Cyclops must remain within 48" of the operator. You can't just deploy 120" away and expect to win.

To the Rune Priest

Vindicare Assassin infiltrating 120pts.

SM librarian w/might of the ancients, TDA, SS, null zone. 140pts.

EDIT - nvrmnd.

ninja'd?

shrike wrote:ninja'd?

Yep, apparently by three people *sigh*

shrike wrote:SM librarian w/might of the ancients, TDA, SS, null zone. 140pts.

I can use the vindicares shieldbreaker shot to null your invulnerable save

To the vindicare assasin:

Same SW rune priest as above, but with a Chooser of the slain. Sorry, no infiltration for you! Oh, and +1 BS!- 110. (and 30 points cheaper... I could even throw in TDA!)

Hmm...

Ork Junka w/Shokk Attack Gun 120pts

Edit:// wrong points cost : P

EDIT: 2 Crisis Suits with Twin Linked Missile Pods and Flamers - 98 pts.

Nah, a Junka is a tank, i'll just keep moving away and blasting your grots to pieces.

tbh, Crisis suits could probably kill it....unless its AV14, in which case it should be more like 200+ points

To the Crisis suits:

3x TH/SS Termies 120 points

rodgers37 wrote:tbh, Crisis suits could probably kill it....unless its AV14, in which case it should be more like 200+ points

To the Crisis suits:

3x TH/SS Termies 120 points

the guy above me edited the post, he put 40x grots before editing his post (and without mentioning it either making me look like a nonce)

anyway, to the termies, Plasmaruss -190pts.

Sorry bout that. Though, it shouldn't be hard to figure out with my EDIT and your "...grots..."

Rodgers37, the crisis suits would actually win that fight, it would just take some time. They have jump packs, so they'll just fire and jump pack forever, while they kill you very slowly. About .42 terminators a turn, while you charge towards me slowly. It would take about seven turns, but it would happen eventually.

5 Chaos Chosen with meltaguns: 140.

2 zoanthropes=160

The Imperator wrote:2 zoanthropes=160

in a spore im guessing from 160pts

16 Kroot, 8 Hounds 160.

Furioso Dreadnought - 125 i believe.

5 fire dragons 80

Callidus Assassin - 120 points.

Malanthrope 140

Exorcist 135pts.

BT Dread in lucius drop pod - 155.

LotD squad w/power fist 180pts

shrike wrote:LotD squad w/power fist 180pts

Seriously?

I get to shoot you at LEAST once, since you can't assault on DS.

4 assault cannon shots, 2,666 hits, 2,222 wounds, 0,740 dead.

2 Storm Bolter shots, 1,333 hits, 0,666 wounds, 0,222 dead.

So around 1 dead from shooting, then I charge you:

4 attacks, 2 hits, 1,666 wounds, 0,555 dead.

Your 2 remaining normal guys get kraks, so that's 0,333 hits and 0,05 glancing. Of those 0,05, the only one I care about is weapon destroyed, which gives them a 0,00925% chance of doing anything.

Your power fist has 2 attacks, 1 hit, 0,333 pen, 0,111 destroy. Looks like the odds are in my favour...

oops mega ninja.

vs the BT dread in a pod, Daemonhunter Inquisitor w/3x mystic and 3x warriors w/meltaguns 108pts

15 Boyz, Nob with PK - 130 I think

Snarky wrote:oops mega ninja.

vs the BT dread in a pod, Daemonhunter Inquisitor w/3x mystic and 3x warriors w/meltaguns 108pts

And when the pod deep strikes 36" away and the Dreadnought jumps out and shoots you to pieces over several turns because it has twice your range?

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Snarky wrote:oops mega ninja.

vs the BT dread in a pod, Daemonhunter Inquisitor w/3x mystic and 3x warriors w/meltaguns 108pts

And when the pod deep strikes 36" away and the Dreadnought jumps out and shoots you to pieces over several turns because it has twice your range?

Huh? I had no idea what loadout you put in it, I assumed that it was 2xCCW since your post just said (BT Dread in pod) not (BT dread w/assault cannon in pod). Please put what wargear you actually equip otherwise it's nearly impossible to counter it.

i,e. I could simply say Vendetta, and you assume lascannons but if I equipped it with hellfury missiles (same costs as lascannons) it would have a VERY different role and counter.


To the Ork Boyz, Hellhound 130pts.

@ Hellhound

BA assault squad, melta, infernus 125

Gibbsey wrote:

The Imperator wrote:2 zoanthropes=160

in a spore im guessing from 160pts

Oops!

Snarky wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Snarky wrote:oops mega ninja.

vs the BT dread in a pod, Daemonhunter Inquisitor w/3x mystic and 3x warriors w/meltaguns 108pts

And when the pod deep strikes 36" away and the Dreadnought jumps out and shoots you to pieces over several turns because it has twice your range?

Huh? I had no idea what loadout you put in it, I assumed that it was 2xCCW since your post just said (BT Dread in pod) not (BT dread w/assault cannon in pod). Please put what wargear you actually equip otherwise it's nearly impossible to counter it.

i,e. I could simply say Vendetta, and you assume lascannons but if I equipped it with hellfury missiles (same costs as lascannons) it would have a VERY different role and counter.


To the Ork Boyz, Hellhound 130pts.

Except the difference between your example and my post is that a BT dreadnought costs 105 points and comes with an assault cannon and DCCW with SB standard (it can't even have 2x DCCW). A Vendetta comes with lascannons as standard. I was assuming that one doesn't have to post standard wargear, as that tends to get annoying pretty quickly.


Countering the BAs: Infiltrating Sword Brethren with plasma cannon, plasma gun, CCWs, power armour - 125 points.

Mawloc- 170

Vanilla Captain 165
*Combi-Melta
*Relic Blade
*Storm Shield
*Digital Weapons

Bring it beasty!!

hmmmm
20 Hormagaunts with TS 160

Bring it Kepten!

Joostuh wrote:Vanilla Captain 165
*Combi-Melta
*Relic Blade
*Storm Shield
*Digital Weapons

Bring it beasty!!

BaneBlade

necronsftw wrote:

Joostuh wrote:Vanilla Captain 165
*Combi-Melta
*Relic Blade
*Storm Shield
*Digital Weapons

Bring it beasty!!

BaneBlade

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/e/epic_fail_guy-12983.jpg

Joostuh wrote:Vanilla Captain 165
*Combi-Melta
*Relic Blade
*Storm Shield
*Digital Weapons

Bring it beasty!!

so you have a 3-armed captain?

continueing the CC unit trend- hades breaching drill w/ engineers and demo charge 130pts

Avatar of Khaine- 155

2 Hydras

150 points.

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:2 Hydras

150 points.

You killed it!

2 Squads of Lascannon Longfangs - around 200 I think

Hmm, 8 Ymgrals: 184p

12 Lootas - 180

Furioso Librarian - Fear of the Darkness and Wings of Sanguinius - 175.

EDIT - ninjad, but will still work.

25 Ork Boyz, Nob with PK - 190 if I'm not wrong

anon/rassilon wrote:25 Ork Boyz, Nob with PK - 190 if I'm not wrong

I'm pretty sure the librarian could win the fight... with different powers maybe...

Eh, sorry. I'm not too familiar with Librarian abilities. But I would put my money on the Orks.

10 Genestealers w/ adrenal glands - 160
Rhino with hunter killer missile - 45

Total - 205

EDIT: Before you ask it is legal thanks to apocalypse.
Thanks for ing with the fluff GW.

I'm at least fairly sure that this is a one-on-one. Don't be TFG.

4 Crisis Battlesuits w/ TL Missile Pods and Flamers - 196 pts.

I don't care how cheasy you are...

BA Vanguard Veteran Squad with SS, PF-195

I would actually hand it to the Ymgrals vs. the Lootas. Popping up in your cover hurts.

Anyway, moving on as we don't want to slow down...5 Lightning Claw Termies: 200p

70 Grots - 210 pts.

Predator with Autocannon: 60p

Tank Shock much?

Thunderwolf with Thunderhammer: 80 points. Close.

Or a razorback with a TL Lascannon- 75 points.

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Thunderwolf with Thunderhammer: 80 points. Close.

Or a razorback with a TL Lascannon- 75 points.

Vindicator

Two phrases come to mind:

1. 40 points less.

2. 24 extra inches of range (and not ordinance or blast, AND twinlinked). Plus I can carry people.

Oscarius wrote:Predator with Autocannon: 60p

Tank Shock much?

I think that the grots might be able to win that one by glancing your rear armor to death.

Avatar – 155

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

avatarz already been posted on this page
At the vindicator:
2 Zoans in a spod 160

The Bringer: Grots? Av10>s3.

From the same codex: 20 Hormogants with Poison: 160p

Leman Russ Battle Tank with heavy bolters 72" away - 170 points.

Hammerhead
*Railgun
*Burst cannons
*Multi tracker
*Disruption pod

165

Death Company Dread in Pod with Fists: 160p

Oscarius wrote:Death Company Dread in Pod with Fists: 160p

And that one turn that the Railgun gets to shoot you?

Uhhm, drop down and either melta gun or smoke.

If smoke is up the hammerhead hits on 3's, makes a result on 3's and a 4 up save. So...roughly 2/9 chance of actually doing something, and DC dreads ignore both stunned and shaken.

Oscarius wrote:Uhhm, drop down and either melta gun or smoke.

If smoke is up the hammerhead hits on 3's, makes a result on 3's and a 4 up save. So...roughly 2/9 chance of actually doing something, and DC dreads ignore both stunned and shaken.

D'oh, I always forget that 5th ed marine stuff gets smoke for free >.<

You get one melta shot, after that, I'm out of melta/assault range. I've got that Multi tracker for a reason!

Not really. I pod in as close as I can, pop smoke and run up as close as possible. It is you that gets a single railgun shot (with rather low chance of success)

I've got that non-stunnable fleeting s10 guy for a reason!
5 attacks on the charge SHOULD hit once, auto pen and then the head is quite frankly doomed.

3 Hiveguard 150

Oscarius wrote:Not really. I pod in as close as I can, pop smoke and run up as close as possible. It is you that gets a single railgun shot (with rather low chance of success)

I've got that non-stunnable fleeting s10 guy for a reason!
5 attacks on the charge SHOULD hit once, auto pen and then the head is quite frankly doomed.

He could fly to the other side of your drop pod though, forcing you to roll well on your fleet...

*shrug* Not so much to be honest. Hammerheads are rather long so if he moves over the dread he ends up with in 8-9". Even if I move past the pod I don't need to move THAT much for fleet.

For the hiveguards: 25 Termagants with Poison: 150p

Hellhound- 130 pts

Oscarius wrote:The Bringer: Grots? Av10>s3.

... I thought I remembered their little guns as being s4... oh well

2 Crisis Suits w/ TL Fusion Blasters and Flamers - 98 pts.

Nah, they got assault 1, 12" lasguns.

Hmm...6 Celestians, 2 Meltas: 98p
Pop a faith point to pretect against the first strike, fire meltas, charge in.

EDIT: Swap that to 5 celestians, Multi Melta, Melta: 90p
Higher chance of getting shield through and has the 24" melta weapon.

17 Slugga-Choppa boyz - 102 pts.

Hmmm. 4 Guardian Jetbikes with Cannon: 98p
Go JSJ!

Valkyrie - 100 points.

2 Zoans 120

3 warriors with boneswords=120

4 Raveners with Rending claws 140

uuuuuuuuuuur calgar

Ultrasmurf_no_REALY wrote:uuuuuuuuuuur calgar

IIRC Calgar is 250pts or something like that...

6 THSS 240

I was wondering...

5 Crisis Suits w/ Burst Cannons/Missile Pods/Multi Trackers - 250 pts.

You can't catch me!

Mephiston 250

I can now!

Jabbdo wrote:Mephiston 250

I can now!

You forgot the ", lord of cheese"

4 Land Speeders with Multi-Meltas 240

6 Long fangs with 5 missile launchers and a Las/TL plas Razorback. Buh bye!- 225

Malanthrope 6" away from your Razorback 140

buh bye!

3 combined infantry guardsmen squad 150 points.

Prepare for about 5 turns of attrition. And somthing about Imperial victory, its the guardsmen dying that counts.

Malanthrop is T6 with a 2+6++ save with 4 wounds, i'd like to see those imperial guardsmen crack that

I've seen much stranger things done by 30 guardsmen, although admittedly it took a VERY, long time.

Still think the Guards would win. Time isn't an issue from what I know of this thread.


[EDIT- For spelling and other keyboard problems]

alright then,
Ravager with 2 DC and 1 DL 115

See above long fangs- they will eat if for breakfast!

( The Long fangs are 225, Ravager is 115)

@ Ravager- Herald of Tzeentch with Chariot+ Bolt of Tzneetch
95 points

16 Ork Boyz 96

Dreadnought 105

7 Genestealers - 98 points

2 Crisis Suits w/ Burst Cannons + Missile Pods + Multi Trackers - 100 pts.

Malanthrope- 140

(Must..Not...Post...Guardsmen...)

3 BloodCrushers of Khorne

120 points

20 hormagaunts with toxin sacs 160

Oops, I misread his post...

Two Lone Wolves with MotW and Storm shield- 135. Slightly more, but close.

[Abit late Asgeirr :p)

@ Horms- LRMBT w/hvy flamer 150 points

A classic, Herald of Tzeentch, Chariot, Bolt, MoS and WaL: 110p

Ah, late again. Oh well!

Hmm... Rune priest with Living Lightning and Tempests Wrath. Dare you to come near! Or stay away; I'll zap you either way.- 100

30 Grots - 90

Hmm... touche. Lets go with 5 GH, MotW and a flamer for 90 points.

3 fiends of Slaanesh 90 points.

Que the bovine related rending deaths.

I'm divided on the Rune Priest vs. Herald. One s8/ap1 shot aswell as 3 s5/ap3 shots per turn should do the priest before he can munch through 5 wounds with 4+ invul...

Aaanyway: 2 Killa Kans with Zookas: 90p

The Zookas should kill atleast one and then loads of s10's will solve the rest. Though it will be tight even against 2...

2 Crisis Suits with TL Missile Pods - 86 pts.

wasnt there "no same units in same page" rule?

there is, at the Killa kans:
2 Hiveguard 100

Devastator wrote:wasnt there "no same units in same page" rule?

Was that to me?

33 Grots at the hiveguard - 99 pts.

EDIT - (in two units if you must know: 23 and 10)
EDITEDIT - I completely missed that grots were already said.

1 yes it was
2 illegal unit
grots have max 30 unit size and min was 10(?)

Devastator wrote:1 yes it was
2 illegal unit
grots have max 30 unit size and min was 10(?)

In the past people have split units, so could it just be assumed that there were at least two?

Also, the crisis suit units vary greatly depending on equipment, so I don't see how with extremely different equipment they could count as the same unit, as they are incredibly varied, not to mention its been done many times before, and people have also counted a "different unit" as changing the unit size.

Anyway, against ze grots: Immolator: 65p
Buuuuuurn

Raider 60

cant touch this! dun dududun dudu cant touch this

BA Predator-70

Broadside Battlesuit -70

Deep striking Land Speeder with Multimelta 65

Piranha w/ Fusion Blaster and Disruption Pods - 67 iirc.

Would be a close fight, but I think the piranha would win.

Necron Lord w/ Warsythe= 110

Actually 70p, and I think the piranha wins aslong as the deep strike is somewhat successfull (I.e within 12" In addition, you only got 12" range.
You are outgunned (BS4 MM>BS3 Melta) and more fragile (Opentopped is worse then +1AV in melta fights.)

Anyway, for both: Infantry with AC and GL: 65p

EDIT: And the necron lord...has a chance against the piranha actually. D:

EDIT2: vs. the lord: 10 Gun Drones: 120p

JSJ ftw. ^^

12 Fire Warriors - 123 pts. w/ 1 EMP Grenade

The piranha would BOOOST first turn to get a good save... then it would be down... you know what... the piranha would probably lose as the range at which the fusion blaster works would let him use the Disruption pods. Derp.

Yeah, both could play that game (booost until anyone shoots) But I still think the Speeder would win mostly only cause of bs4.

Aaand: 5 Marines including Drop Pod: 125p
Can't touch the pod.

My favorite nid unit:

MAWWWWWWWWLOC 170

Inquisitor with plasma pistol, 2 mystics and 3 warriors with plasma guns - 122 IIRC.

Ravager with 2 DC's and 1 DL, Nightshield 115

Oscarius wrote:Yeah, both could play that game (booost until anyone shoots) But I still think the Speeder would win mostly only cause of bs4.

Aaand: 5 Marines including Drop Pod: 125p
Can't touch the pod.

I was against the gun drones, but I added an EMP grenade just in case against the marines.

Nulipuli2 wrote:Ravager with 2 DC's and 1 DL, Nightshield 115

2x Hydra= 150 IIRC

Wolf scouts and a meltagun: 85 points.

Wraithlord with Wraithsword 100

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Wolf scouts and a meltagun: 85 points.

And the skimmer at 72" away that shoots you after you waste the first?

Nulipuli2 wrote:Wraithlord with Wraithsword 100

For a real response - 1 Piranha - 60 pts.

Thank you. Well, they infiltrate or BEL outflank, and shoot you in the back. Works really well most of the time.

1 Hiveguard 50

5 Lootas - 75

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Thank you. Well, they infiltrate or BEL outflank, and shoot you in the back. Works really well most of the time.

That's one of the hydras. Now you have to footslog it and try to catch the other one before you die...

Ravager with disintegrator Cannons and Retrofire Jets 110

Derpstriking s5, av11 thingie?

BA Las/plas razor: 90p

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Asgeirr Darkwolf wrote:Wolf scouts and a meltagun: 85 points.

And the skimmer at 72" away that shoots you after you waste the first?

Hydra's aren't skimmers

Oscarius wrote:Derpstriking s5, av11 thingie?

BA Las/plas razor: 90p

2 Crisis Suits w/ TL Fusion Blasters - 86 pts.

+ Blacksun filter?

Random hordie shootie thing...

15 Shoota Boys: 90p.

Predator, Heavy Bolters: 85pts

Land Speeder with Multi Melta 65

6 Fire warriors 60pt.

20 Grots - 60 pts.

Predator 60

Rofl, already on this page.

Soo...Ork truck with Ram: 40p

Otherwise (vs. the pred): 10 Guardsmen with missile launcher in cover: 65p

Ork fighta w/ bomms - 140

damn ninjas!

( Apoc units arn't allowed are they?)

anyway
2 Hydras- 150

Chaos Lord Gir wrote:damn ninjas!

( Apoc units arn't allowed are they?)

anyway
2 Hydras- 150

You can ignore those ninjas. Those points values aren't in the least fair. 140 to 65 is totally fair?!?!?

Oh well.

2 Crisis Shas'vres with Targetting Arrays, Fusion Blasters, Missile Pods, HW Multi Trackers - 138 pts.

(Very well, just making sure.)

4 fiends of slaanesh- 120

Hmmm......

Terrain-0pts Have fun deep striking don't mishap

But seriously 2 BA Preds-140

I don't think you're winning that fight, 24 ST5 Rending attacks with a 19-24" charge range is bad news for any vehicle short of a LR.
And you only have 2 autocannons, so you've got to avoid those Fiends for quite some time before you've shot them down.

Anyhow, vs preds;
Hammerhead
*Railgun
*Burstcannons
*Decoy launcher
*Multi Tracker

165

BA assault squad, melta, infernus 125

mawloc 170

ninja'd.

Trygon - 200 points.

5 THSS 200

2 Support Weapon Platforms
2 D. Cannons each

200

So an Immobile shooting unit doing as much shooting damage to the termies as 2 kills kans (that is, not a lot) vs. Derpstriking unit of doom... Come again?

Against the termies: Wave Serpent, Shuri Cannon, TL Shuri Cannon, Stones, Engines: 135p

Against the Support platform just for good measure: 30 Orc Boys: 180p

Wave Serpent:

Exorcist 135

I'd say 5 LF with 4 plasma cannons- 155. VS the termies. Againts the serpent: 6 LF and 5 ML for 140 points. I've seen it happen plenty of times.

And pardon my extreme ignorance, but I have no idea what ninja'd means. Someone care to explain to a poor lost techless soul?

at the missle fangs:

Malanthrope 140

Ninja means that someone beat the unit that one person was trying to beat faster then he did, cause hes a ninja.

Ah. Somehow, I doubt a malanthrope would win that fight agianst 5 missiles a turn from up to 48 inches away...

WS5 BS3 S6 T6 W4 I5 Ld10 A3 Sv 2+6++
Fleet

and a lot of other rules that wont matter in a situation against LF

Hmm... I could always do the Plasma Fangs above.

Really? 2 seperate sets of 2 D. Cannons, which wound on a 2+, autokill on a 6, and are AP2 wont kill them? There are 4 shots out of each Platform ,meaning at least one, usually two will hit. 4/5 of each should wound, so 8 wounds. SS will save 4.5, give it 5, so 3 dead. Even if those 2 left kill a Platform, which they will, good luck getting to the other one alive.

@Malanthrope:

Ravager, 3 DLs, Flickerfield 115

you do realize that D-cannon do not have 4 shots, but rather a small blast? at which once the terminators deep strike, they can spread out by running, and not giving you a good amount of hits.

Uhhm, a question, isn't a D-Cannon heavy 1 blast? I don't really know where you get 4 shots from...

Of course, I'm not a eldar expert but still, am I so far from the target?

@ Ravager

BA RAS w/ JP, meltagun sergeant has an IP 125 points.

@ Ravager
3 Hiveguard 150


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ninja'd :/

At the hiveguard: 2 Oblits, 150 points.

3 zoathropes=180

Colonel 'Iron Hand' Straken- 95

i think the zoanthropes would blast him before he gets close.

yep. 2 will hit, 2 will wound. You can't ignore S10 AP3 hits.

Yup, and they stand a decent chance in combat too.

In reply of the Zoans...let's do something fun!

GUO with Cloud of Flies, Aura of Decay: 185p

Yeah, he's slow alright, but he deepstrikes and you only burn through 1 wound/turn with the lances (Much, much less in combat or with the blasts). And when he reaches combat he'll slowly kill you.

9 s/troopers 2 melta guns, melta bombs vet srg power weapon 152 points

30 guardsmen with lasguns. 150 points.


FIRST RANK ! FIRE !


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( nobody say dreadnought )

DREADNOUGHT!...

Nah, to make it worse...Killa Kan with Skorcha: 40p

Lone wolf with a MotW- 35. Beats down walkers!

Crisis with TL Burst Cannon and Blacksun Filter: 40p

I dare you to try to reach me.

land speeder 50p
try catch me!

ninjad

@ crisis

Land speeder with Multi melta


derp striking FTW!!!

as you didn't say point limit..................
5x3 hydras

ghost page ftw

ghost pages dont work on me devastator


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5x3 Derp striking MM land speeders
975

Nulipuli2 wrote:ghost pages dont work on me devastator

witchcraft!

how are you going to beat 15 hydras with 3 speeders

oh i thought that said 3x1 hydras, change my post to 15x derp striking MM land speeders 975

one unit per page

i edited that.

its still land speeder

in squadrons


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edited... again

I see speeders exactly once on this page, excluding all the takl about them.

So 15 shots from av10 platforms?

2x50 Man Blob with 5 AC's, Commie and 6 Power Weapons each: 710p

actually its 4 shots per hydra

Uhhm...I'm talking about the speeders...if I'm supposed to beat the hydras I go balls to the walls silly:

3x10 Sternguards with 10 Combi-Meltas and a pod each: 1005p

wtf?
can we keep it below 1000,
because soon people are going to be using giant blobs of DC w/ thunderhammers, full units of TH/SS termies in LR, etc.

Heh, don't blame me, blame the guy who posted 15 hydras against a single speeder.

Shall we take and reset it then, at a decent point limit, say a nice flat 300p.

New contender is:
30 Hormogants with Sacs and Glands: 300.

Good work Oscarius.

30 FW, pulse rifles.

30 FW, pulse rifles. 300p

Remember to add the point total.

Hmm, let's go ballsy:
2 units, 2 and 3 HB/HB speeders: 300p

On the edge, nicking yo guys.

2 units of 2 broadsides each.

all 4 with targetting arrays.

320.

Two BA Vanguard Vetsx5(PW)(PF)-340 (One squad has a PW other has PF)

Heroic Intervention in and assault

20 shoota boyz, PK nob, bosspole-160
20 shoota boyz, PK nob, bosspole-160
total-320

3 Wraithlords with Wraithswords 300

heroic intervention in and get stomped


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ninjad, ignore post

lol sorry

stompydakka wrote:20 shoota boyz, PK nob, bosspole-160
20 shoota boyz, PK nob, bosspole-160
total-320

2 Hellhouds - 260 points.

3 Fire Prisms 345

2 hammerheads w/ burst cannons, railguns, dispods-310

2x3 Heavy destroyers 300

LR Achilles 300

Baneblade 500p

Ultrasmurf_no_REALY wrote:Baneblade 500p

First post, no apoc!

landraider 250

Pirahna Squad
3x Pirahna Skimmers w/ Fusion Blasters, Dispods, and Targetting Arrays-240

3 zoanthropes 180

30 shoota boyz - 180


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Ultrasmurf_no_REALY wrote:Baneblade 500p

UBER FAIL