i always was under the assumption that in the movies the stormtoopers had their pants dropping at evry gunfight... compared to the fluff of the SW license they had to be elite troops not that pansy bums that always stood where they get shot dead soonest...

They could never hit the broad side of a space cruiser either, but Obi Wan said "Only Imperial Stormtroopers are so precise" lol

LOOOL...yeah i remember that scene^^ lol...

i´ve read way back some good books done by some brilliant authors and every time stormtroopers are really bad ass fighters... and in the movies... one could cry... i am after all a fan of the empire...so sad...

OMG you made me crack up

No no. What you're not getting vik is that the 'troopers are elite troops. It's just that Han & co all have invulnerable1+ saves

http://www.cracked.com/article_18858_the-biggest-star-wars-plot-hole-explained-by-science.html

- The biggest Star Wars plothole, explained by science.

An article I read a looong time ago but the last few comments reminded me. It is about the storm trooper accuracy (or lack thereof )

that article is awsome, i want that guy to disect every part of star wars as i think it would be an interesting read

at jeroen... part of the perverted i grant you that... fluff i liked about the stormtoopers in the books was that they are vicious killers... which would totally erase the point made in that article... tho if we are talking any WWI /II soldiers i would say this article is true to the letter... it just isn´t really possible to superimpose the image of a WW evet to a stormtrooper... but then the link to the official explenation is totally crappy ...

LOL the emotions ones the same and the roll call is funny as!

HAZZER

I find your lack of posting..... Disturbing.


On a further unrelated note: I play on the Luka Sene EU server for Star Wars: Old Republic. Empire of course.

argh... that one went straight throug my heart... i tried to avoid mmorpg´s since i played wow...that amount of time no one could give me back... but now i seriously consider starting that... dang... what am i supposed to do...^^

as for updates... i will begin shortly with my documentation for the new painting and modeling competition... it will be a small dio that is to the theme "duels"...

if all turns out the way i want it to be it will be quite daring and cool^^

and mate... who on the almighty earth would want to be a whimsy rebel scum heini... right? so are ye a sith or a trooper or even a headhunter?

I tend to avoid addictive computer games, and try not to take it to heart when friends would rather save the princess with their online brothers.






Its a cult I tells you.

Minecraft=goodbye loved ones.

If I post here in the next week, it's only becasue I am at work or sleep and I cannot play minecraft.

stein do you play minecraft online?

at tortured... well if i would have been luke... i bet i would have not looked nice if han would have his paws on my princess...so i guess i would have gotten rid of that man like yesterday^^... that aside... i was always in favor of the empire... being darth vader was always one of my favorite past time dream!... beside thinking about girls of course^^

at dstein... oh ye mere mortals^^ poor guy... such addictive games drain one quite a lot... does your better half play with ye too?

Viktor von Domm wrote:argh... that one went straight throug my heart... i tried to avoid mmorpg´s since i played wow...that amount of time no one could give me back... but now i seriously consider starting that... dang... what am i supposed to do...^^

as for updates... i will begin shortly with my documentation for the new painting and modeling competition... it will be a small dio that is to the theme "duels"...

if all turns out the way i want it to be it will be quite daring and cool^^

and mate... who on the almighty earth would want to be a whimsy rebel scum heini... right? so are ye a sith or a trooper or even a headhunter?

Well I actually made one of each class but at the moment I went with my favourite. The Bounty Hunter.

And good updates

Looking forward to them.

My GF has been patiently waiting for Star Wars. She is what you'd call an MMO pro, she'll kick yer ass in WoW.!
I would play minecraft online, but haven't really tried it. The first server I joined appeared at first glance to be populated by 8 year olds, based on the chat channel.

wow is infested by 8 year old easy to frustrate children... and chineese and unwashed peeps that sit there for 24/7... i should now^^...
but you only ever meet the peeps who don´t fit in either of the before named categories... i played through the second big update and stoped amit the thrid one...as it became more obvious that storyline is something that happens in other games and that it more and more reminds me of worklife... after that realization i had to quit... although i still own a low equipet paladin and a DK... the death knight being the only cool storyline ever...^^

star wars online... dang one of these days i have to ask my wife for some spending money... and what should i then choose... mmorpg or paints, brushes and kits? argh... decisions, decisions...

Beeing an MMO addict, I should join this conversation

SWtOR has already consumed my spare time wholly... So, if any of you are gonna play this game - I will be happy to see you on the "Lord Calypho" RP-PVP server. On either side. Just let me know
And may the force be with you

this is why im getting skyrim for xmas, and only skyrim, because it will take up all of my gaming time untill i can fully fund SWtOR

oh mates... you really tempt me... thank god i have next to no idea of how much SWtOR would cost me... if my system could take it...as i am atm totally broke^^ :(

on a more apropriate matter here...:

and back to the main course...

this is my very first picture update of the competition...

mind you... it doesn´t show you the setting... it doesn´t show you the complete roll call of the parties...heck it seriously doesn´t show you the complete roll call of even one party... but it shows you at least a generall direction where i want to go...



hope that helped^^




vik

looks promising there vik, im interested in what you come up with

i have made a bit of a spoiler in storags thread... i asked him about some posing problems i have on the other part of the duel party... there will be at one point a stagediving ork... hopefully i am able to get some work on that matter done in this merry times^^

Looking forward to the stage-diving ork

he will totally ripp the audience^^

Complete with Orky mosh pit?

awww yea! sounds like my kind of party

dsteingass wrote:Complete with Orky mosh pit?

well kinda^^

at RW... well...you ain´t seen nuthin`yet^^

Okay, not had much time on dakka recently, but I'll try catch up after christmas

take yer word for it!

I see the White Dwarf subscription in a box with the 2012 Pirate White Dwarf mini peeking out at me from my stocking! Woot!

cool... but am i right you are still on the 23rd of december? ye ole peeping tom^^

It isn't wrapped! If you walked into the room and saw a White Dwarf logo, you'd look too!

i think that is a safe bet^^

although my wife probably never will buy me something for the hobby...

but then... there are other needs^^

A Merry Christmas to All and to All a good.....several days of assembling miniatures! Ho! Ho! Ho!

Merry Christmas Vik!

Nice start on the duel diorama, I'm looking forward to see what you come up with!

Merry Yule-time! Hope motivation springs anew in the new year

thanks weety, jeroen and flying poo...

and yep...tomorrow i have the house for me alone...i think this will be the time i will get some good assembling done... maybe even i get a good deal of work done on the base... i have an idea... want to use a big cork disc...we usually use as a heatprotector for our table cloth...when we have the pans and pots on the table... you probably know those big cork disc from ikea... i´ll show you later on what i have in mind...

by the way... i got from santa the graphic tablet i was always waiting for^^ yippey^^ so i hope i can teach myself how to draw now^^

merry christmas for all my friends out there who haven´t had theirs already!

vik

My Christmas is already over.
It's 1am Boxing Day here. I need to get to sleep! I'm not tired though because my body is in holiday sleeping mode!
AND I HAD HEAPS OF CANDY FOR CHRISTMAS!

Calming down now...

Your using cork? Cork makes awesome slate, rubble and debris!

Is this going to be an Urban base?

Have I great Christmas!

I'm going to try and get some sleep!

sugar and coffey are the main ingredients for staying awake...^^

i thought of maybe making a a bit of a trench terrain for this dio...the cork plate will be merely for the support of the dio... tho i give you that that the cork does very good slate and rocks! depends all on the paintjob!

i hope you have some good and refreshing sleep...later on you can invest that energy gain through sleep into some nice orky scratchbuilts? now that is a good thought^^

by the way... i recommend flying poos scratchbuilt thread... he built a dreadnought and a orky segway from scratch... something everyone should check out!

vik

Nice army Vik.
I will take the time to read this entire blog but for now i just skimmed a few pages but your stuff looks ace. just a question is there a full army pic on one of the page's?

nope... as there is no such thing as a complete army... most projects/platoons are stuck in various WIP stages... i am guilty as charged for loosing in a continious way my attention and moving on to other things from time to time...it is really most stressing^^

i do have full platoons that are ready and i will try to make some pics... but honestly a look in to the gallery would be more helpful for your own interest^^

will do vik

aye

Ooooh look Vik! Another Dutchie!

damn right we might even know each other where you from jeroen?

I currently live in Bergen op Zoom, so I doubt it..... but I guess we could/should ^_^

Vaassen near Apeldoorn so that's far away i guess

well...looky here a dutch conection^^

sorry guys lack of updates is freaking expanding... at christmas eve we (my wife and me) discovered a leack in the plumbings of our kitchen under the sink that had caused severe soaking of wooden cupboards... all this we now baught new... must be built and then refitted under the sink and the new hearth we baught in the same effort... that is taking up quite some time and to top it all we still have the kids at home as it is still their freetime of off the kindergarden...so i next to nothing have time to make any progress around the little dio i have planned...

also i stumbled on some plans of an ATAT and ATST...maybe these will be the base for a new project that is forming in my mind...stay tuned...

Steampunk AT-ST? I like that idea! Lots of extra gears and whirlygigs.
Vik "Sorry honey, that old clock broke today, I had to take it apart to fix it"

dsteingass wrote:Steampunk AT-ST? I like that idea! Lots of extra gears and whirlygigs.
Vik "Sorry honey, that old clock broke today, I had to take it apart to fix it"

And of course plenty of rivets!

A Rivety redesign of the Sentinal is is order I believe Vik!

Scene: thick woods, birds chirping, animals start to run, crunching noises overshadowed by the sound of servos powered by steam and the Chuft-chuft sound of a steam motor repeating black smoke billowing off riveted brass and steel bipedal walkers with the cannons mounted on the "chins" their turrets swiveling as they seek targets hidden in the woods.

maybe you need to attach the rivets to other rivets?

That has been done, aka a round rivet glued to a hex rivet for a nut and bolt rivet.

rivets for rivets i love the idea

at shaso... gosh i think i need to review now return of the jedi´s...just for the dynamic researhc of the AT-ST´s^^

at fatty...that will happen later on... i think, the sentinel/SW ATST mix will be a cardboard one...or should i now go for plasticcard...man i am so hesitant...

at dave...lol...but honestly... the clocks we have in our house are all IKEA and aren´t worth a damn when it comes to gears and cogs... but that idea has been running circles ever since in my mind...

Hey Fatty and Dstein! I made you guys into a meme! You can thank me later!

lol... jake... good one!

LMFAO! HAHAHA!
you should've used cheech and chong instead

If you are looking for good gears the best sources for me have always been old wind up toys and broken printers. Bothe are easy to find.

at meatshield... yeah you are bang to rights with that one...and i already have stretched my tendrils out in that direction...

dsteingass wrote:LMFAO! HAHAHA!
you should've used cheech and chong instead

I'll have to remeber that for next time!

Good job

As a matter of fact, I finally got round to watching inception a week or so ago... I walked out of the room all wierd, like I was only half-conscious

but yeah, not been doing much on the internet of late (too many trips out/playing video games), but hopefully I'll be on more next year

we´ll see to that *puts shotgun beside him*

well any way... i wish you all that have sticked with me to that lacking any pictureupdates thread for the last weeks... the new year surley will bring new projects and new hypes and downs in this thread... so bear with me and travel through this mist of creativity!

i wish you all out there a happy new year and that the new year brings not too much strife but more fun and winnings!

would be nice for a change^^

cheers, yours truly vik

Happy new years vik. Hopefully the new year will bring some awesome updates...*nudge*.
Do I need a shotgun too?

do aussies except in times of nuclear accidents wear shotgun habitual?

i do hope too for cool updates...er... oh...this is my thread so everyone is expecting me to make updates???^^

well plans are afoot...sadly i have to go shoping for some printers cartridges as my printer is sucked dry... planned to make patterns for my ATST conversion today but no such luck...seems that will happen after new year...

Well, Europeans hold the stereotype of Americans as all owning guns. So I will just roll with that and
/rack shotgun

And Vik, you NEED to build the steampunk AT-ST out of PLASTIC, not cardboard! If you need more supplies, let me know

lol... i guess i will be set for this built as is... the stock is quite big enough thanks to your earlier carepackage^^

and i thought as much the same... also this might in the long run provide me with the option to maybe cast the thingy... which would be a totally sweet thing^^

the main reason i have not really made progress with PC is the glue issue i have not solved yet... i need to find a good glue and then literally all would be set...

I now have a guy here on Dakka, Galorn, who is great at mold-making. I too, am thinking in terms of casting. But Vik, you should first make a prototype model before you section it out for casting. It would be very expensive if you designed the thing in sections for casting, and then it didn't work out. You will learn much from the prototype, and your patterns will make reproducing it easier.

absolutly second your point here... and it was maybe a bit confusing... but it was meant to be exactly the way you described it... first prototype and then the "explosion" and making seperate parts^^

otherwise i think it wouldn´t work at all...

Trust me it is best to do a trial run and you will have mistakes and at time you will bang your head repeatedly against a wall but eventually you will succeed and the out come will be great and worth the effort plus search for some casting tips on the net I found a few that really helped and moved things along quickly.

Good luck Viktor and now I am storking you so happy new year and see you very soon Ha HA Hahh ah ah

see...that was the master plan...i was secretly trying to drag you...drag you i tell thee...to my own lair...now that i have you in my fist...^^

well yeah...for casting...this will take some time to start things...but the casting as such is planned...i hope it will be starting this year... could truly revolutionize the hobby for me...

Viktor von Domm wrote:nope... as there is no such thing as a complete army... most projects/platoons are stuck in various WIP stages... i am guilty as charged for loosing in a continious way my attention and moving on to other things from time to time...it is really most stressing^^

I am guilty of this as well! I keep getting off track from painting my Warmachine models( my Cygnar, Khador, Mercs & Menoth ), then my Mordian Iron Guard, the Fenris IG project, my Space Wolves force project.. Well I like putting the models together, its almost as fun as playing with them. Painting would be my second love after all the conversion ideas I have.

I'm glad to hear everyone's holidays were a rousing success! I look forward to updates, tips, tricks, conversions and painting soon!

I found it a bit daunting at first but after finding a decent supplier of resin and silicone who also helped me greatly with what I needed for my use, I have had some great fun with it and a few mishaps but overall it has been worth the effort.


Now how do I get out of here is this some kind of well I am in and why does this basket of body lotion keep coming down here HELLO HELLO CAN YOU HEAR ME ………….

IT DOES WHAT IT IS TOLD! Haha LDD

good to have you here now too hmelrose!

yeah converting minis is by far the most enjoyable feat of the hobby for me too...

hope i can provide all you wish for soonish^^if projets/armies would be money....then i would be a rich man...sadly it is with so many stuff going on quite the opposie^^ got two SM armies on the hold... my IG steampunkstyle...then a sizable amount of catachans...and some Warzone minis i wanted to make as a chaosy IG WWI german styled...gosh....then the arbites counts as force for my oldest son and whatever else takes my fancy^^time and money being the hardest currencies in the hobby^^

You can earn it but you don't have the time to spend it or you spend it but don't have the time to earn it, work and money sucks


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Plus half the time you lot waste (me included ) is looking and posting on Dakka Dakka DAM YOU DAM YOU ALLLLLLLLL

the last part is oh so true...while surfing...posting or laughing ones hunchback off...this time could be also wasted by painting/modeling...then there is that fair amount of vidgaming one man needs to blow off some steam...

and well...wasting/spending money sure gets harder when at work...but i remeber that i spent oh so many €€ s while sitting at a desk wading through pages of ebay...^^

Dam those online shooters yep its six am in the morning again and have not been to bed yet and Evilbay I am sure it's a bargain at the time and a must have but it turns up and it gets stored in another draw box or shelve now where did that page go ……….

well i was never the one to have any hobby discipline...not in seeing a project through or in not buying stuff i can´t complete in a nearer future...i guess i play a hrode army becasue (not so) deep down i am a horder^^

also...on ebay everything looks so damn useful...and then you get teased here on dakka so many times a day... it is buying in self defence...argh...i know when i am loosing an argument^^

What did you say I was just buying a new circle cutter that I know Rictus had purchased looks good might work on plasticard now need to go shoot things and glue stuff together and start my late shift and make my lunch where does the time go ………..

ROFL...

as for the circle cutter...i own one of these...well...looked quite around for this but in the end even a better classed one was not what i had in mind...

so uppy ye go...down in the coalmine again^^

I find your lack of updates.....Disturbing.

Hey vik few questions;
firstly what are we currently blabing on about?
And update man!Come on 3or so pages!

I find your lack of updates.....Disturbing.

lol...so you do now like shrike auto comments?...well...


at hazzer...yers...well...we went to ikea today...again...any further info needed?

another update will happen tomorrow till 13:00 CET...promised upon your dead carcasses...

Ikea you say the pit of hell as it goes by in this house, 3 hours of your life you never get back and the only redeeming feature is a plate of meatballs and chips ERRRMMM

Did you get any thing nice HAHAHA


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I think an update might be needed the town folk are gathering and they don't look happy ……...

depends...we did get a big plastic box...and some six small plastic boxes to go^^ no meatballs this time... tho even my son asked for them...he is half vegetarian... but we were pretty tight on time today...becase it was the second time this week we went there...argh...tho i do like it from time to time to go there... i really enjoy shopping, provided i have enough time doing it...but my wife hates it... we are the reverse stereotype of male/female in the shopping department^^

and since we try to redecorate the childrens room... we baught yet another new rack support beam... for those who are known to the stuff... IVAR... nice and quiete refershingly flexible a system...

the only one major thing i can´t stand with ikea is that you mostly have to walk how they want you to walk... if you get rid of your kids in that smalalnd...then you want to get them back... it is an endless odysee to get where you want to go...and don´t ask me about lifts going the way you want them to go...

Yes, angry townsfolk indeed

hey no fair one of them bowmen has a gun... and to bring torches... what behavior is that? eh?

An entire box of Mordheim "frenzied mob" and not one of them is carrying a pitchfork.

haha aint that a suprise!

always thought pitchforks were mandatory...they give such finished look to a dedicated mob...

DUDE WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU ……… I like shopping on the net I go I look I buy done, not this wondering around aimlessly being run into barged passed asked if I need help screaming children arguing couples no thanks but I guess if you like it then you like it.

As for IKea and the walking system (cattle driving) I hate it as it seems to flow correctly then there is this bit in the middle where the systems just goes of in random directions and people end up congregating and all try to go in different directions resulting in a pile up of people I just don't get it.


Well I take my hat of to you sir you must have the patience of a saint




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Sorry but the answer to the towns folk was added as I was writing in a very slow way and the misses has told me she is going to bed as I seem distracted I think that means I have not paid enough interest in her tonight o dear I think I am in trouble.



Pitchforks are a must and burning torches what kind of angry town folk don't have them ……..

lol... no saints involved there... i just need the insiration...lots of hobby related stuff i got from there...also we do buy the oddest stuff there and missuse it in other ways... next to the complete flat is stuffed and outfiutted by ikea...but all is customized or rather converted... the desk my wife does the sewing on has a big plate as the deskplate and sits between to racks of IVAR... we like to experiment and play out new ideas when it comes to furniture...and my wife gets exactly the kind of emotions you get... so she urges me on to get the feth out of this madhouse...^^


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Sorry but the answer to the towns folk was added as I was writing in a very slow way and the misses has told me she is going to bed as I seem distracted I think that means I have not paid enough interest in her tonight o dear I think I am in trouble.

safty rule with wifes nr. 1... wife always comes first...always...

Pitchforks are a must and burning torches what kind of angry town folk don't have them ……..

every mob that is worth it´s grain of salt has them... if not the mob is really not trying and should have stayed at home... if some mob has them not i wouldn´t even bother to look for those pointy sticks to impale a bloody vampire with...really some townsfolk these days...

I like the sound of your wife she has a good head on her I think you are a lucky man a wife that does not like shopping you have been blessed by the gods, they looked down on you and gave you an angle in human form …… you lucky bastard lol

Hobby related stuff from Ikea now I truly am confused what and how ? converting furniture you are a master in your own right or though I do think you have combined your hobby with your home and created a brand new hobby


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Safety rule 1 wife comes first I know this but I was typing and reading these dam threads see you guys are getting me in trouble now ……...


Angry mobs here today burned tomorrow

ok basing materials... big cork stuff you use for pots to be put on the table and for the cups and stuff to not make wet rings on the table... then i got this big half slit cable..llooks like a cabletunnel...will be used later on...today i baught a wooden thingy...will be transfromed into a gun for the kids... and so many other things in the past...

as for the converting at home... well it is the same spirit that drives me on when opening a box of cadians... no one can expect me to just use them as is... same with fruniture...provided it is just wood...everything beyond gets nasty to convert on that scale^^

and well what can i say... she can be as angelic as one might dream...and the other stuff too^^

It all makes sense now the uses are endless, who thought Ikea could be such a treasure trove I have to ask what are you going to use the slit cable for

and the other stuff not sure what you mean by that but like I said earlier I am having a slow night




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Like the new Avatar what is the picture from, and why are you all changing your pictures do I need to change mine as well I just don't know can somebody help please ……….

well i had this DKoK santa... which kind of is now pointless...with christmas all gone^^

so i took a cool looking von DOOM pic and changed the naming... to fit my dakka name...

that brutal bert...i think it is kinda cool...and i wouldn´t change it now... if you come over the first thousand posts then i would think about it...peeps have to rememer yer face here...and that avater pic is as much your face now as in real life your mug is^^

as for the slit thing... i guess i have to show that tomorrow... that at least wouold be a true update i think...but honestly i think i have shown that already... might be in my gallery even...hmm... will show some looks and maybe even purpose to the stuff...

I guess the Christmas spirit has passed you had no choice but to change it, I thought it was doom but was not sure.

You mean people are going to recognise me as that a puppet with a gun my life is complete …… note to self more time over avatar.

Hope to see an update tomorrow got to hit the sack my eyeballs are falling into my coffee been a long day must sleep now but hey no work tomorrow let me have the day off due to orders being low (unpaid but hey ) might get something done

well one thing you could really start tomorrow... start your own thread... a healthy dose of your own medicine...wanna wanna picsy now...wannannnnwnanannnaa you will get that then from at least me too^^

and for me it is off the damned computer too now...

tomorrow by the way i will go to the movies...sherlock holmes the second movie... we wathced the first today at home... brilliant stuff i say so myself^^

cheerio!

We went yesterday to see Holmes, VERY cool movie! You get bonus Points for spotting a cool new mix of bricks and rivets in the movie


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Lots of rivets in that movie!

that is the secret behind my motivation^^

awsome movie series there... i totally like the new take on the holmes concept!

I will start my own thread but not for a month or 2 yet and it will be a very random thread I am afraid of started and mainly unfinished models and stuff I don't really play sorry guys just love to cut and shunt models together maybe one day I will pick up the dice again but not at the moment.

Viktor I will look forward to your demands for updates and pictures and use them as motivation or at least a nudge lol

As for homes the first one was a pretty good movie considering who directed it and the second I hope to be as good with a bit of luck, have you seen his other films lock stock and snatch thats what it is really like over here lol


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You want to check out the British tv series of homes it's pretty good the new one I mean

dsteingass wrote:We went yesterday to see Holmes, VERY cool movie! You get bonus Points for spotting a cool new mix of bricks and rivets in the movie


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Lots of rivets in that movie!

Ah yes, the era of true rivet love! everything was rivets as welding was not yet as widespread or trusted w/o some rivets to shore things up!

Viktor von Domm wrote: safty rule with wifes nr. 1... wife always comes first...always...

A happy wife is a happy life!

Viktor von Domm wrote:depends...we did get a big plastic box...and some six small plastic boxes to go^^ no meatballs this time... tho even my son asked for them...he is half vegetarian... but we were pretty tight on time today...becase it was the second time this week we went there...argh...tho i do like it from time to time to go there... i really enjoy shopping, provided i have enough time doing it...but my wife hates it... we are the reverse stereotype of male/female in the shopping department^^

and since we try to redecorate the childrens room... we baught yet another new rack support beam... for those who are known to the stuff... IVAR... nice and quiete refershingly flexible a system...

the only one major thing i can´t stand with ikea is that you mostly have to walk how they want you to walk... if you get rid of your kids in that smalalnd...then you want to get them back... it is an endless odysee to get where you want to go...and don´t ask me about lifts going the way you want them to go...

IVAR is nice, but I find the utility of the GORM series to be similar and less expensive. You can do so much with it! Damn Ikea and their cheap fake swedish furniture. More storage is always nice though, especially for hobbies.

I want to see more of your work! Even if you just take pics of the stuff you've already done from a different angle!

Have you checked out http://www.ikeahackers.net ? Its like a converters site for ikea.

now hmelrose...that is a cool link... i will digest that together with my wife... just a short glimpse revealed the laundry monster...what an eyeopener!

i know of gorm.... we first started to use IVAR for our living room... to built two major kick ass big desks to work on and play and what not... my wife had a 0.80x2.20m desk and mine was smaller yet next to identically built inbetween two racks of ivar... then we moved rooms with the kids ...they got the biggest room in the flat...and we baught even more ivar it is now even in the bathroom...as a bench and a rack...there is so much use in this stuff...with gorm i dont like that i have to use the screwdriver if i want to build it... ivar you only need your fingers...(except of course you use those lockers you can buy too... which we have also quite a few of...)

I want to see more of your work! Even if you just take pics of the stuff you've already done from a different angle!

lol... who could argue with such an argument ^^ that at least can be easyly aranged^^

A happy wife is a happy life!

aye rawson...truer words...you know the drill^^


at LDD...yeah the first season was shown twice already on german TV...lovley... that wierd sherlock interpretation was one of my favorite... tho i love the features of peter cushing as one of the best personans of the sherlock charcter it is the new actor in the series and the downey jr...who bring the fictious charcter to a truly new level of a realistic genius...

as for your thread...

I will start my own thread but not for a month or 2 yet and it will be a very random thread I am afraid of started and mainly unfinished models and stuff I don't really play sorry guys just love to cut and shunt models together

well i settle for a purly modeling thread any day of the week... what with me a total blank when it comes down to rules...and such things...i love seeing other working with the stuff and creating new things out of them ...so pluck up yer courage and get things moving...

Ah yes, the era of true rivet love! everything was rivets as welding was not yet as widespread or trusted w/o some rivets to shore things up!

at shaso... yep the first was already quite a stylish education in itself for me and i do hope for the second to be as good as the first one...



as for an update ... will clean up shortly my workspace...then some new work can be done there... update will happen either way as promised above...^^


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and now i give you a mucho needed picture update of yours truly ...

at first i want to declare that the steampunk airship probably will see a major overhaul in the nearer future... i think that many issues in material and sacle are that hard to cope with atm for me that i need to restart from scratch... beside, the things i have learned here will directly flow into this new project of mine and it will show lots of learned lessons...besides i can´t stand the concept as is anymore... needs to be redone with more hindsight this time...

as a matter of fact i recently baught me these here... for scale referrence is a black devil scottsman ...they will be a nice addition i think to the built...




also i would like you all to show what kind of crazy and messy worker i ammost of the time... here is my mancave...




needs some definte reorganiting... the wife gets very frustrted when she sees the carfully filed away projects... mind you a whole lot you cant see in this pic as much of the stuff of mine is already stowed away in cuboards and on my true mancave upstairs... we built a second deck so to speak just above ...where my PC is located and lots of hobby stuff is collecting dust... but that is too messy to be shown even here^^

I cant believe Ikeahackers.net what an amazement truly the fact that people take what is readily available and make a better use out of it, I used to work as a furniture assembler/machinist (I use the term loosely ) in the pine industry over here for a few years glue and pinned as we call it crap.

I would say Ikea even built in its mass production and flat pack form was way better than what we made lol we have had a few bits from there and I have to say they have been moved from home to home a few times and still go back together just as strong.

As for the interpretations of Sherlock homes of which there are 2 at the moment I love both on completely different levels,with the TV version Sherlock's persona of an awkward genius with a total disregard for correct social interaction, however from time to time when his guard is lowered there is almost a human side to him.

When we come to the movie version Sherlocks persona takes on more of the subtle genius but more loveable rouge aspect with a hint of action hero thrown in after all it is the movies, but in all this we should not forget the side kick dear Watson in both cases I feel similarities in there representations on the screen.

Both this time seem to be have given a stronger personalty with a smarter edge plus more of an equal partner ship to the team rather than the bumbling fool as he is often represented as if not to just heighten the deductions of the genius that is Sherlock Holmes.




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Dam you always amend your post as I writ a reply so now I have to amend mine as for the man cave mine is a hell of a lot worse to the fact I cant even really get in their at the moment so don't feel to bad.


Mind you I have cleaned enough space to get to my desk just ……..

lol... also i just uplaoded some old style first minis of mine...:





because of a nice thread...fist paintjobs and all... so i thought i might rise to the occasion...

as for the mancave... well it is no actual mancave at all but a corner of our living room and as such has to up hold some technical laws for maneuverability... otherwise i would not be given the blues but the rock and metal from my wife...it is even with this hardly bearable for her... but space is pretty rare...

as for the ikea stuff... mind you i always thought prisonworkers and slaves make the best furniture... us mere free peeps are just not working at that cutting edge... what i am rambling at? try to look up some more recent news to ikea... they even had political inmates work in the former eastern german republic...yeah right... who would have thought...


but you are right... we have some second (possibly third) hand stuff form ikea and moved everything from corner to corner in our flat... sometimes me thinks putting wheels under the racks would help^^ so much have we moved inside our rooms the stuff around...

as i remeber reading somewhere sherlock was meant to be a gay character... so it is truer to the original concept in the TV series... but i also like the more romantic bond^^ touch you have going on now with downey... and i just love how he calculates his fights beforehand... that is so comic of the 60s^^
in the good old movies watson was mostly just a grunty old fart that was there to have not sherlock look too stupid while rambling around his conclusions... now he is a full player, both on the screen and the telly... which i much more prefer... teamplay is right up my alley... and in the movies there are many scenes in which sherlock wouldn´t have a fleeting chance without his formidable sidekick watson...
beside... i think (sorry forgott the actors name, but he will play bilbo beutlin too ) is such a cool guy... in the series... he is such a card... works again as a doc and sleeps due to lack of sleep in his physician rooms... lol... that is what life is all about... you can´t stay a hero 24/7... you sometimes loose or slip... and thats why i love the series and the movies... they create wonderful threedimensional charcters

Some remakes are worth it.

Love finding old stuff it makes you realise how much you have moved on from when you started but recaptures the interest as to why you fell in love with the hobby in the first place.

Martin freeman (the name that escapes you ) is a pretty good actor seen him in a few things favourite being the office (original version) hilarious I was not shaw of him taken the role of Watson but I think he has made it his own.

As for Sherlock being gay never heard that before but then he was a long term bachelor so I guess it is possible, mind you in the TV shows second series you may be in for a surprise then don't want to spoil it for you but really enjoyed the first episode and holy crap they are now just advertising the second episode as I type.

I was thinking of asking the misses if she feels like seeing Sherlock 2 tonight as I have the day off and I have heard reports of it being worth a watch (I doubt it though ).

I have been looking through my started works and half finished conversion to see if I have enough to start a thread of my own still not sure if it is enough plus the demand for updates can I cope with the pressure.

Nice stuff man!Love it!Keep it up!

999,999,999,999,999,999,997...
999,999,999,999,999,999,998...
999,999,999,999,999,999,999...
1 zillion.

Hey look! Vik posted some pictures...

Vik's posted pics?

Real, actual photographs and the like?

Damn, that must have been what the Prime Minister was trying to contact me about.


I have to say vik, that man-cave is barely deserving of the title. There's a good couple of square feet of floor visible, there appears to be room for a veritable horde of parts in all those clear spaces on the shelves, and there doesn't seem to be much hanging off those handily placed ladder steps.
Obviously there's a few bonus points to be had for having a half-completed airship on a shelf, so not all bad

I love seeing other hobbyists "Inner Sanctums", the Holiest Of Holies, the Skonkwerks, the man-caves, whatever you call them.

stein you forget the wife-repalent.

Vik nice models and those cannons look awesome where are they from?

HAHA, In my past life, I knew EXACTLY what you mean fatty, but I don't have that problem anymore, my GF likes to sit and watch me paint, the garage is set up like a den, with couch and tv as well as game table and hobby area(s)

well...the prime minister hasn´t had the full information...this mister here has another update up his sleave...

in the spirit of recent weapon creations, and the way earlier expected arrive of the MR TESTOR tube of glue... i tried myself in some blacksmithy endeavor... tho there is hardly any black involved with only rods of white styrene^^

so the credit now goes for inspiration, material and technical support to dave aka dsteingass as he like his new avatar has shown us all the way of self weaponmaking^^

behold...the lawgiver...nono...just a mere peashoter i have to say atm... maybe tomorrow with some further work on the rough stone can a gem be polished out of this...




mind you...the gun now has already seen some more work to it...but since i have just returned fromthe big screen^^ i am not able to go in too much delicate work anymore...

which brings me to the next subject of our late night soiree...namly the movie sherlock holms 2...

the wife criticometer pointed out fair and square an intensification of violence...

me as the advocate of said movie pointed out the fact that said violence always was shown in a very esthetic kind of way...

there were some hilarious points in the movie... like i.e. the automobile in the beginning...but all in all i very much enjoyed the movie... and will be denfinitly be a movie worthwhile to be watched from time to time...

sadly i don´t think i can talk to you in length and depth about the movie... danger of spoilers would be the case^^ the movie is still way too fresh out there still...

but i have to ask the peeps out there that have seen the movie... in one scene watson is wielding a very unknown machinpistol/gun type... with lots of brass and a crescent shaped magazine... anyone has a pic and if possible knows any more about said weapon? i would be most thankfull for any further information... i think a new project is shaping up here...^^

at LDD... martin freeman...yers! i really like that man... many peeps say the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy and other movies were pretty lame...but not me... i loved that one to peices and it really cracked me up...even tho i read all books of adams of that storyline...

well if your hint is more on the lines of some bisexual interests... i certainly could say i expect as much of holmes... he is a charcter with way more corners and levels/shaed to him than can be seen by a mere glance...the whole concept of holmes despises sterotypes...and creates a new one^^

at monkey... my wife ust the other minute said.,.. i would like to have a door between you, your man cave and me... she despises the untidyness of all that is there... sad but true...*sniffs*

at fatty... repellant... well my armpits mostly do^^

sadly i don´t know any further information about these nice canons...here was the auction... and sadly no info even there too...
http://www.ebay.de/itm/220903106647?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649


at dave... argh... your killing me with your keeper of a wife...if we all has such nice and understanding GF where would we be...oh the productivity we all could achive... i hope you do tell her how special she is!

and what the hell is a skonkwerks....???

cheers, mates...vik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skunk_Works
It is my secret lab where I develop weapons

Your pistol is lookiing great Vik! Prepare to file a while my friend
Build her a balsa door in 40k scale and put it on the coffee table

well i already used the rods you gave me with the dremel... it is working for such things quite well...of course some stuff you just have to sand/file the traditional way...

making her a balsa door 40k scale style... lol... i bet that would be a declaration of war for her...^^

and somehow the term skunk hole...lol...on the to be left alone folder^^

actually it is more my first try for a gun...single shotgun perhaps... dunno...i just go with the flow and see how it turns out...

Ah, i see Vik is gone shot-gunny on us!

Soon, he will be building a Vickers MG!


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@Vik- Someone has already made a site for the guns in Sherlock Holmes- I want to build a Mauser C96!
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes:_A_Game_Of_Shadows

ah, I have made some that look close to the Vicker/maxim style of water cooled HMG's as a "Heavy Stubber"

Ooh nice man Looks good!I guss I'm going to have to join in too

I think this craze is catching on building weapons from scratch, must have a go at a bit my self this weekend (on the quite misses birthday) don't want to upset her on that day of all, How many time have you been to see Sherlock Holmes 2 now ? and I did not get to see it she was tiered but we will be going at the weekend so no spoilers please, i have to say that I do have concerns though as there seems to be some varied and mixed reviews about it.

To defend your wife's criticometer the same point has been highlighted by several film critics as to the amount of violence and explosions and lack of story line.

As for Sherlock season 2 sexual leas on I cant tell you to much as I think it will be part of an on going plot but lets say I can see what you are thinking but you may be surprised, after all like you said he is a charcter with way more corners and levels/shaed to him than can be seen by a mere glance...the whole concept of holmes despises sterotypes...and creates a new one^^ The next episode looks pretty dam good though


As for hitchhikers guide to the galaxy there was a mixed bag of enjoyment and slightly disappointment, however I feel this more so was due to watching the TV show many years ago as a dare I say it as a young adult and enjoyed it amen sly which gave this movie a hard task to match up.
I hate to say it but I am kind of looking forward to seeing the Hobbit now a bit of a wait I know but I think he will make that roll his own.

Vik I am starting to feel some kind of body care is needed your reference to body odour is now worrying Take a shower dude

dsteingass you have to be one of the luckiest men alive not only does she allow you to have creative freedom she sits and watches and even show s interest I bow down to the master teach me the way to achieve this power of mind deception my Sith Lord ….. These are the toys we are looking for

hello mates.... mayn thanks for the praise^^ and comments,

i will honor the "thou- shal-l not- spoil- my- movie" -command of you LDD...

but since this is already a movie wallpaper i think it is possible without any spoilers involved to show which gun i meant:

[img]http://cutthecap.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/sherlock-holmes-2-poster2.jpgimg]


looks like a smaller and eralier brengun, or sten? i am still confused...

yes dave... vickers will be next... i fiddled around the current built and it took me some wild ways^^ changed it now to a complete different design... still not done yet but it definatly now has a heavy component to it...


after some serious filing and carving it now looked like this:



then i thought... way too big for a sawed off shotgun...so i built a stock...


glued and for referrence put in a hand of one of my scotts:





at shaso... was that one for the sponsons or for the backfiring one for the perun? so many moons ago^^ but i have a foggy idea again...

at hazzer... hell yes...and thank you^^ and be sure whatever you do share it with us!

at dave... looked through the link and unfortunatly they only built this site for the teaser/trailer of the movie...so they wouldn´t be able to portray that gun...


by the way... the plasticcard that i got before yours... somehow it seems inpenetrable to the glue... your stuff works like a true charm... i bet i can really put out some madness now... even the revell glue now is my best friend... i think i can now get on with some serious buttkicking building!!! many thanks again dave...

by the way... since your lady adores you while painting and building... it seems she might be abloe to adore you even when you prick your nose? that kind of women seems to be long erased form the face of the earth... got replaced by the more viscious kind... so i think you definatly should breed ... we need more women like her^^ (just joking...and a slight bit of envy nevertheless... )
at LDD... well we just have to wait and see... i know for definite that the german telly will broadcast the show... without adverts by the way as it is government tv for that one...yeah! one for the dvd burner^^

never saw the HHGTG series in TV, was never broadcasted in my lands...i probably have to see it some time in the net then...

as for the lack of storyline... well it sure had suspense aplenty, sometimes abit of roughness that might have been done otherwise and some characters xould have been done a slightly bit more to the coreconcept...but all in all it is already on my favorite movie list... which for me is saying quite much... next time (second then) i watch it in english... got to have the original too...

as for scratchbuilding yer own weaponry... well what are ye waiting for???

Loving the shotgun Vik!
People who are critical of the HHGTTG movie, generally haven't read all of the series, the Movie was really an abridged mix of several of the novels. If you can't be bothered to read all of the books (there are a lot, but they read quickly) I recommend the audiobooks read by Douglas Adams himself (except the first book, read by Stephen Fry)
They are great to listen to if you drive a lot or while painting and modeling.

Nice!

whoa... what a day... now i had a virus crash after researching for the hun of watson... went to a russian site and got terrible problems... well i hope i am now on top of it... mihgt be needed to change my browser tho...

well dave it isn´t a shotgun anymore... pics will happen later on...to clarify the guntype quite well...

with the books of D.adams... well he has a strange humor... me too... it was a fit.. if you want to have a real strange day read... try the long dark teatime of the soul... strange... very strange...

audiobooks... well i never tred them yet...hmmm...but i totally se your point with the hobbyrelated absence of the need to hear something for modeling to take place...thus an audiobook sure has it´s benefits...


thanks hazzer^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:
after some serious filing and carving it now looked like this:

Great work, Vik! Pop a few rivets on there and she'll be ready to go!
Ah, I crack myself up...

Vik shotguns hey have to say I cheated and bought a load from Maxmini they were to good to pass up, But I did convert some empire muskets to shot gun once I know not quite up there with you scratch building lot

I even cheated on my bloopers for my renegade/bloodpact I asked a friend over on work in progress if he could nock some up using CAD and have to say they turned out looking great just have to wait for them to arrive now.

As for the show I am sure if they have shown the first season they will show the second, HGTG was around in the eighties low budget british production but bloody funny from what I can remember got to stay up to watch it as a kid.

Due to the feedback of the Movie I take most with a pinch of salt plus if you expect the worst I usually enjoy it more go figure.

I do apologise if my feedback is a bit crap but it reflects the evening I had at work yes crap…………….. At least its Friday tomorrow

Liking the Boom stick.

Vik and your subbs thought you might like these just saw them over on MAXMINI great coat legs great aint they

Lone dirty dog, those Greatcoat legs look interesting!

Vik, time to get those men armed, to the trenches and blow away enemy at close and dirty!

lone dirty dog wrote: But I did convert some empire muskets to shot gun once I know not quite up there with you scratch building lot

I had been looking at the Empire rifle/muskets as a possible solution to my shotgun problem, simply cutting them in half or by 75% then drilling out the barrel with a pin vise & bit.

I was going to take the rest of the models and give them lasguns, that would make them empire fancy conscripts/regular troops in an IG force, just something a little different on the battlefield. Similar to what the store owner at Aero Hobbies in Santa Monica, Ca did with his IG force and he named every model after a customer or friend. I'm happy to say that I'm a Veteran member of his IG force!

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/310781_2521626445851_1409017601_2874377_72585362_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/316857_2521626965864_1409017601_2874379_476024264_n.jpg

at LDD...yeah i subscribed the maxmini thread here too...so was also exited about their new legs... thy look great (hurhurhur) together with the armored bodies maxmini has put out... someday i will get that stuff... with their old style guardsmen heads...with big moustaches that would be perfect for my own needs^^

they even advertise the second season...so it is definte!

i promise you you wont have a movie that will be a good popcorn coke combination^^ tho i only ate almonds and other nuts with the movie^^

as for cheating... fave recently said...there is no cheating in modeling...^^ and the maxmini shotguns are just plain lovley... "these are the weapons we have been searching for"^^

at shaso... definatly...but all in good time^^...you know i am a wandering mind...always up to something else...^^

at hmelrose...
cool army...tho i myself used the pistoliers guns as shotgun vets... but that is just a matter of personal taste...besides any gun with that caliber of a musket is already in the league of a shotgun^^...so you are a vet in his army^^ nice... i like tribute minis...might you be able to show yerself to us?^^

at tortured robot..

well i hate to dissapoint you and rawson...not a shooty bomstick but rather a LMG now...:







like?

Viktor von Domm wrote: as for cheating... fave recently said...there is no cheating in modeling...^^ and the maxmini shotguns are just plain lovley... "these are the weapons we have been searching for"^^

at hmelrose...
cool army...tho i myself used the pistoliers guns as shotgun vets... but that is just a matter of personal taste...besides any gun with that caliber of a musket is already in the league of a shotgun^^...so you are a vet in his army^^ nice... i like tribute minis...might you be able to show yerself to us?^^

There is no cheating in modeling only awesome tips/tricks! If the model gets done right the way you want it to look, then you have achieved your goal!

Oh yeah, plenty of options with all the models from the GW line of miniatures and other companies. The Pistoliers are a good example of this variety.

I'm the Meltagun Vet with the feathered cap centered in the second picture I posted. I've survived many battles!

ah^^ i see now!

i like it when IG´s are named! that is giving some character to horde armies!

@Hmelrose They look great nice work and I like the fact you named each one after a member of the group mind you how many are there in that group thats a lot of minis I wish I had a mini named after me as for the Empire musket conversion I only used the arms and musket added it a catachan torso with a militia head and catachan legs to make a zombie hunter, with a little GS.


The reason I said I cheated was I saw the look some where else and loved it so much that I practically copied the entire miniature, although mine had a better jacket collar LOL

@Viktor von Doom Sorry I saw them and nearly wet my self (how sad I know) but I have been waiting for something like this for so long and have tried to push the idea their for ages and finally (all be it after christmas when i am skint no overtime and the misses birthday is here) they made them
and as you all seem to be guard players of sort thought you might like them. Those shotguns are good

Glad you are getting the second season it's getting better and it was pretty good to start with we have no adverts in our series either as it is the channel we pay the licence to .

I think we will be going to see this weekend sunday probably, will let you know my verdict, your link for the gun does not seem to work for me I don't know if any one else has had that problem

Work in Progress for a certain someone....

What do you guys think so far?

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A bigger picture so you can more clearly see the model.

Boom sticks, LMG..... Cobra Assault Cannon - its all firepower, hence Awesome!

j3r03n wrote:

Work in Progress for a certain someone....

What do you guys think so far?

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A bigger picture so you can more clearly see the model.

hahaha, that is awesome! What bits were used or is it a model?

It's a model from Tobsen77 makes a few resin models some great some ok I have 3 of these started to convert one for some renegade rough riders but surprise surprise never finished HA……….

I like this use for it although it does kind of remind me of the version on the Tobsen site in away which is great but you need parts from Copplestone miniatures to achieve it.

I would sculpt your own legs myself as the bend in the legs looks a bit odd for the seating position or add more of a seat so it looks as though he is sitting on it.

- The monowheel miniature is from Tobsen77 Miniatures; the model does come with a lot of bubbles and other stuff that needs fixing though.
- The head, torso and arms are from Victoria Miniatures
- The bases I found on eBay and got them from Fenris Games
- The lower body is a sentinel pilot body (cut in half in order to make room for the victorian torso).


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- The monowheel miniature is from Tobsen77 Miniatures; the model does come with a lot of bubbles and other stuff that needs fixing though.
- The head, torso and arms are from Victoria Miniatures
- The bases I found on eBay and got them from Fenris Games
- The lower body is a sentinel pilot body (cut in half in order to make room for the victorian torso).

It's a model from Tobsen77 makes a few resin models some great some ok I have 3 of these started to convert one for some renegade rough riders but surprise surprise never finished HA……….

I like this use for it although it does kind of remind me of the version on the Tobsen site in away which is great but you need parts from Copplestone miniatures to achieve it.

I would sculpt your own legs myself as the bend in the legs looks a bit odd for the seating position or add more of a seat so it looks as though he is sitting on it.

I agree with the seat thing, this was my first assemble kind of like a test to see how it would look, the gap definately needs filling, now where is my GS...

True it does look similar, I originally purchased some to convert into Hellhounds for my Squat army....and then I saw how small they were in reality so I decided not to. They also somewhat remind me of the Cobra tank thing.

Vik, the bipod and Bananna magazine are totaly badass! Awesoe job man!

Thanks j30r3n for the links - If I ever get into Victorian SyFy I'll have to get me some of those!

j3r03n wrote:-I agree with the seat thing, this was my first assemble kind of like a test to see how it would look, the gap definately needs filling, now where is my GS...

True it does look similar, I originally purchased some to convert into Hellhounds for my Squat army....and then I saw how small they were in reality so I decided not to. They also somewhat remind me of the Cobra tank thing.

With you on that the cobra tank thing lol although if you get this right it will look amazing.

Vik have you fixed that link as for the gun how rude I never answered I just realised after reading Dave's reply sorry is ok to call you Dave …. any way as Mr dsteingass had mentioned good look like the "banana magazine" have you got a miniature to give this to ?

Will he either be laying down firing or will it be resting on a wall firing ?

That is my name!

Nice love the gun! We should get all of our home-made weapons together and sell tham as a combo-pack!

The DakkaDakka custom arms sprue? $19.99?

Sounds like a plan!

SO, if we had to make a list of the 4 or 5 MOST-Needed weapons for IG to include on a sprue, what would they be?

Nice looking LMG vik

And nice rider there J3r03n.


Hmm, 5 most needed? 4 shotties and a sniper rifle

blunderbuss grenade launcher
steam punk fashion plasma gun
steam punk fashion a melta gun
steam punk fashion flamer steam gun

those are the guns that are difficult to find in a steam punk like fashion or that are just really expensive.

my 2 cents

snipers and shotguns are both needed (for regular guard) IMO, as well as IG-sized power fists and (why the hell not) gatling guns and canes.


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snipers and shotguns are both needed (for regular guard) IMO, as well as IG-sized power fists, bolt-action rifles and (why the hell not) gatling guns.

I love the look of the Las-Lock, but it makes no sense to me, How the hell does a flintlock system work like a lasgun? I could dream up a bolt-action weapon of some sort, but how to 40k-ify it? Add the iconic flash supressor and then what?

I've made a standard lasrifle into a long-las sniper rifle already, let me dig it up and take a pic....

Not much, very simple conversion.

i work with empire bits. they have a hochland long riffle (sniper) and a double barreled gun (shot gun).

you can see my models in my tread (see sig)

love thr RR jeroen! tho i have to admit, that the sitting legs look a tad akward in that position...tho i am not the one about to complain here^^ gift horse and all^^

also i think he needs a means to stear the wheel ...some joystick or stearingwhell...

but the whole arrangement screams classy already^^

at dave... 5 much needed weapons...hmmm...steampunk of course...

i have to give that to fatty´s top five... they all sound very good choices... but what about the design? the need...i would totally agree...but do some of you have ideas how to make them? some screenshots of games or internet finds?

by the way...i am working currently on a doublebarreld shotgun... glue is curing atm for the stock to really set then the carving will happen ...pics will follow later on...

not been on much yet again, but I still have a shotgun I made as a test for vik back at something like page 10 and never actually took a pic with it
It's a pretty simple conversion, just a bolter minus the sights and clip, added a drum mag to the side and the barrel was replaced by two smaller ones. Next pic update I'll take one of it (if I can find it)

dsteingass wrote:I love the look of the Las-Lock, but it makes no sense to me, How the hell does a flintlock system work like a lasgun? I could dream up a bolt-action weapon of some sort, but how to 40k-ify it? Add the iconic flash supressor and then what?

Not everything on the weapon needs to have a purpose it could just be for visual design, the sniper rifle looks pretty good though.

The control mind interface for the wheel is in his helmet! Why else would it be so big >.>

dsteingass wrote:I could dream up a bolt-action weapon of some sort, but how to 40k-ify it? Add the iconic flash supressor and then what?

Ok, so let's explore this idea. Steampunk...What is it?
or more importantly, what aesthetic characteristics make things instantly recognizable as "Steampunk"?
IMHO...
Hard things
1. Victorian era materials and styling (brass, gold,iron,finished wood, RIVETS)
2. Coils, valves, analog gagues, gears, cogs, and other mechanical or pneumatic things, ray guns, tesla coils, etc.
And soft things
3. Ornate filigree, gildings, inlaid pearl and ornamental hardware usually framing fine woodwork.
4. Never bright in color, but colorful fabrics, clothes, silks, carpets, and red velvet cushions


It is always the mix of the hard and soft things in Steampunk that make me dig it. But I think what really makes Steampunk are the makers. The craftsmanship and style is a reflection of the person who crafted, by hand, their creation.



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shrike wrote:

dsteingass wrote:I could dream up a bolt-action weapon of some sort, but how to 40k-ify it? Add the iconic flash supressor and then what?

well there have been solid rounds mentioned in 40k fluff, so the gun could simply fire solid ammo.

at jeroen...lol...and me, i thought the pith helemt was for the better cooling of the head and giving also some sort of minimum protection...silly me...


at shrike... would love to see that shotgunny version of yours... always my weapon of choice... a nice (little if needed) shotgun...pumgun for preferrence by the way but double barreld for the classic look... by the way... look downwards...


at LDD...

Not everything on the weapon needs to have a purpose it could just be for visual design, the sniper rifle looks pretty good though.

lol...sounds like a reasonable try to come up with a new wording for the rule of cool...^^

at dave... nice book show of yours... that book seems to be full of nice things...
and the summary of all that is steampunk sounds pretty sound to me...the charm of steampunk is exactly your short list of things... the true essence...the materials we nowadays don´t see too often and the individuality we seldom see...i-pod looks like any i-pod... it is trusty but it is just a template product... without any soul... i prefer soul any day of my life over standard template products...

as for the shotgun remark of mine..:







double barreld shotgun... some work still on the barrels...and also i would like to do hammers on the thingy...(dunno how it is called...) and maybe some carving on the wood... i am considering to GS certain areas too...


vik

Looking good there...

*bows*

Hey Vik , Love the shotgun guy , good colour choice, and superb weapon build. Its great to see some of your steampunky guys coming to life mate. Hope you and yours are well . ;-) happy belated new year.

aye! tho i have to say... that guy is just perfect for showing sclae atm... the brushes are gathering dust atm... i have come back to building...and building now my own stuff^^ the fun and love of glueing plasticcard^^

and yep i think new year was quite good... celebrated it just the four of us and same with the chrimbo...but well new year now has yet to prove it´s shinyness to me^^

Viktor von Domm wrote:

Nice work! I feel like I need to run to the FLGS to get some styrene and custom build some dakka

When you say "just for scale", do you mean that your new boomstick doesn't actually go with this guy? Otherwise I'd say that the pose isn't so natural...

that guy will definatly not be wileding said boomstick...he is the plasma gunner of the squad...

the shotgun was a mere exercise... i have yet to start a real project to get all this potentiality into something...it is totally new to me to make things out of plasticcard so i tried myself in some technigues...

That is fantastic Vik! Love the Double Barrel action! The stock is niice too, my stocks never seem to look right.

oh tanks dave, i was pretty unsure with the stock...also i think i am a bit out of scale with this one still... just a few odd mm here and there... next built should be better... needs to getting used to too... i have a lasgun nearby for referrence tho but somehow the different parts have an urge to get bigger by themselves^^

Looks really good, and I think some swirly carvings on it would look good:

maybe not as detailed, though

lol...if i get the GS out tomorrow we´ll see what can be arranged about that...if^^

^^

Hmmm, I wonder if you will be doing shorter barreled trench shotguns?

hmm... good idea... but then the not beside barrel shotgun but rather then above barreled guns...like:



or possibly this:

Like the Stevens

hmmm that is good looking... all those drillholes...probably doable by aplying plastic glue and then some needlework to the barrels?

Oh no, I wouldn't recommend that! Plain drilling is way better. Pin vise, micro drill bit and go.

hmm looks like guns have been the topic of the day...

Rogue Wolves wrote:hmm looks like guns have been the topic of the day...

Only days that end with "y"...

Nice work there Vik although the scale maybe slightly out but the look is tops now you know what to do it again slightly smaller we have all done it scale can be a real bitch.

That model of yours (in both sense of the word) needs more paint I have to say every time you post him he looks sadder and more rejected show the model some love and finish the paint job lol

I like the second picture of the shotgun that looks bad ass make that next …….. and I hope your GS skills are up to the challenge I want to see those swirly carvings

The glue and pin idea avoid at all cost it seems a good idea but it will melt your plastic and the pin will just pull strands of melted glue every where.

Good luck and look forward to next post …….. with more paint

Pith helmets = telepathic controls, every one knows that

at baiyuan and all the others... i do own micro drills and i too think that is rather the way to go there... tho i will try that methode out in a different way... maybe i get some detailwork done that way that looks like silverwork...not on that already built shotgun but on a new try...a way to somehow get around the GS work^^
one might never know what knowledge can be optained^^

at rawson:

Only days that end with "y"...

LOL

at RW...well ye could have joined, couln´t ye? where have ye been? you have been long absent mate!

at LDD...grant you that... and he looks by far the most rejected mini i have ever done..the look on his face, together with that gesture of the demanding hand...yep...poor sod^^

so i have revisited the idea of making rivets via the holepunch... amd with the sheats of styrene courtesy of dave i now am able to produce them to the millllllions! again!

tho i want to share my expirience with that way of production...:

the material of that thickness gets rather badly warped in multiple way...i tried at first to make the biggest rivets i am ble to make...then i tried the smalest option available...that is by the way still 2mm in diameter to five the biggest...
you see how malformed afterwards the material is...so for filligre work it is not that usefull...well...we´ll see about that...




because a certain project i want to do in the coming days is in need of such fiddle details i need to find a way...so i went and began to drill holes into PC...looks like that:


kind of usefull and with care something could be done that way...

then i started to make my first angled work with PC...created a boxykind of structure...:






pilot is for scale referrence...



and because old habbits die hard i tried my old filligre methode with the PC again... turned out well enoug atm...


thoughts? recommendations...accusations?^^


vik

Hmmm, what are you up to now I wonder Vik?

i could be mean and tell you to read through the last ten or more pages... but i think a good cuppa tea and a bit of a wait will solve this nice and quiet^^

Don't let shaso serve it, american tea is horrible

on topic, the rivet holes look pretty good, and I think the way to stop the material getting deformed is to drill less holes in it (more material needed though)
so instead of, say, 20 holes in a strip, maybe 15, evenly spread out?

the first pic is just wasted material, when making rivets for the rivtes as the sole purpose it is rather not really important what becomes out of the left over... but since i used to do detailwork with the punch too i have to now see how to make it work for me... one thing i will try is getting thinner sheats of PC...that might be the trick...

Come on Vik there is no such thing as wasted PC, that distorted PC is perfect for scratch building scenery or even better for ork scratch builds never repeat never throw anything away

NEVER throw anything away- it can at least be used in rubble!

Sorry going back to steam punk weapons again found this

Elegant yet kicks a punch however you need to get to where you are going to use it first
Hey presto

@Vik- you will probably ruin/dull your holepunch by forcing it through the 1mm plastic card, you really want something thinner. How about the thin clear plastic that is used for report covers, or overhead transparencies, etc. ? Or food packaging plastic (if it will take a glue)

@LDD The Barrel/canister/round magazine is another touch that fits in perfectly with Steampunk! The Piston-drive system is another cool idea to make anything instantly look steampunk, although I'd prefer iron steam tractor wheels

oo i like the look at that bull! and @vik i told ye why i was gone sir! had to film some commercials and such

Dave you picky sod lol……..
Vik wake up your thread being hijacked

Vik's thread is made for hijacking

dsteingass wrote:Vik's thread is made for hijacking

and that's just what it'll do.
Vik's thread is made for hijaking,
and it'll hijack all over you!

Tractor tires you say no iron wheels but tractor never the less
or

How about this for transport


Now how about this or this for transport

at LDD... yeah that shotgun of yours is a true nice find... will use that for a future gun as the main referrence...
as for the tank and the other vehicles... some i know of already... at least once in a week i do a pic search at google for steampunk vehicles, mechs, walker and tank... to come up with new designs... got already quite a collection...

at rawson...classy mate^^ but honestly... i thought that was dave´s necro thread as well or even more^^

at RW... yep i read it... though...earning money...was that ever a ssuitable excuse? thought so^^

as for the wasting PC issue... of course do i collect and recycle all previously used PC to a later terminal use...basing or any other uses... there is no wasted PC...it was just a figure of speach to a short sighted projects pinpoint...^^


well mates... made an effort and tried myself with simple forms... tried to make a bricklicke compartment for my next project...but i realised i don´t do simple...so the current steps are put aside (not wasted...just on the shelf for future use)
and began working on a more octagonal shape...this looks way better... but did atm no pics to let you oggle over... that will have to wait for a further step to follow...i have great expectations for this now...somehow the thing feels already right... the whole project is yet again just a thing that i build as i go with the flow... no planning just moment inspiration...so bear with me on this...

vik

lone dirty dog wrote:How about this for transport

I'd love to see one of those in a heavy gale

yeah... the bus from HP...i thought was just pretty dumb... nevertheless that design jumped to the bigscreen...

Well, HP would never have been anything like the popularity it was if it the characters weren't kids.

well...i see ron i see a kid...i see hermoine and ...(/&(&(/(?(/)...i see harry... i see a buttugly heini that hopefully will never breed... in the first two movies he actually looked quite close to the char but then he looked just mean with a bad... a verrrrry bad haircut...

So for all the lovely vehicles....can we have some links where you got those from?

^ where are those vehicles from anyway.. they are giving me a redfaction type of feeling

Sorry early night last night so no reply as to links as such I just type Rotcud Industries into Goggle images and there you have it……… Good luck

Vik still did not get to see Sherlock Homes she was not in the mood I think I will go on my own at this rate But I saw the second episode of the second series last night pretty good funny in places as well

#pst#Erm vik Im just wandering what is steampunk exactly? On but seriously what is it? It is people dreesed up in victorain clohes with huge great sci-fi like guns?

VIK WHAT HAVE YOU DONE

That's pretty epic... but someone has a little too much time on his hands methinks

I have never understood that expression "____has too much time on his/her hands"- What does that mean? Why do people say that?

It is an amazingly hand-crafted piece of art, the artist obviously set out to plan/build/create the thing with great skill and craftsmanship, it was not an accidental product of boredom

I often hear that said in a disapproving tone about my own work, as if the person saying it thinks that they know better than I do how I should be spending my free time.

It can be meant in a "I pity you if you have nothing better to do", but normally it's in a jokey way.

Interesting, still strange to me, but interesting. Just another English phrase that is foreign to me, and I only speak English Like the phrase "bye and bye"- it means literally, "soon".>WTF? Why say three words/syllables when you only need 1 word/syllable??

dsteingass wrote:Interesting, still strange to me, but interesting. Just another English phrase that is foreign to me, and I only speak English Like the phrase "bye and bye"- it means literally, "soon".>WTF? Why say three words/syllables when you only need 1 word/syllable??

I remember someone saying "that's the badger."
friend- "where does that saying come from?"
me- "britain"
friend- "hmm, haven't heard that one before."
me- "neither have I, but who else would it be if not the britons?"

HAHAHA, have gotten into the habit of saying "Aluminium" instead of "Aluminum"- Just because that is how they say it on Top Gear I can call the trunk of a car a "boot", but I can't call the hood a "bonnet" for some reason.

dsteingass wrote:HAHAHA, have gotten into the habit of saying "Aluminium" instead of "Aluminum"- Just because that is how they say it on Top Gear I can call the trunk of a car a "boot", but I can't call the hood a "bonnet" for some reason.

aye, to my shame I rarely say "fellow" or "chap", and instead say the american "guy", and also occasionally say "movie" instead of "film", though through sheer force of will I've managed to avoid most "americanisms"

Oh, am so going to start calling men "Fellow" or "Chap" from now on! But yeah, I couldn't bring myself to call the hood of a car a bonnet either.

Watched an episode of the american top gear once... never again... ^^

nice discussion i seem to have droped in on...

well germany sure has it´s faire share of americanisms in the language now.. as well from other "minoritiy" influences as well... some assimilate the new stuff with open arms and some...my father-in law springs to my mind...refuses to even pronounce those lend words in the correct way... so we have to hear english stuff with a sooo harsh german accent that sometimes i have to cringe...it is rather an earstrain...

by the way... hazzer...basically steampunk is what you summed up:



i think this explains a certain take to the scene... for all that have started to have a more in-depth aproach to the matter... it is like a renaissance of old meets new... new thech inn the shape and spirit of old classy materials and craftmanship...comfrort andstyle goes before function and economic concerns... also no one bothers about ecology...polution is not thought about... steampunk is more of a social point of view...some kind of way of life...and for my part...i wish sometimes it too hard to be true...all that damend plastic...i just have to look through the window...damn those are 50% plastic too...see?

sorry for the ramble^^

as for the second past time in this little thread...made some progress on the new project...it will be my interpretation of a steampunk walker... yeah...for me that just screams to be done in steampunk! so i am atm working on the compartment of the vehicle... fully encased one at that... the pics below show the shape quite good, also i hope if you are inclined to do so...when zoomed in you will see that i began to texturize the surface in a wooden fashion... i hope it is recognizable...please be as cruel as you see fit...^^
also one might notice the grey now crawling up on this structure...these recycled lenghts of sprue i have choosen for their shape...they will be later on recognizable as a steelcage around the wooden base...i have a kind of tiefighter look for the compartment in mind...


the window will have that look ...


so here are the updates...







pleae share everything you deem fit to be shared here^^ as usual^^

your humble servant, vik

I can *kind of* see where the cockpit is going, but I'll be most intrigued to see the limbs being constructed ^^

I'm liking where this is going...

aye... always the wee finger on the hurting point...the limbs... and for that matter the connecting structure for those limbs... i have to think hard to make that one up on my own...

thanks dave!

Interesting stuff vik

It MUST include exposed gears, however you do it, you can't avoid that

i have that idea for making my own gears with the holepunch even... making PC discs and then bitting holes in them by the punchset and thus making my own cogwheels... do you think that would be possible? will make some try out tomorrow... maybe it would work with a dremel even?


thanks neil^^

That sounds cool!- But you'll have to get every gear tooth perfectly straight and uniform and symmetrical to pull it off.

yeah... that is the major issue with everything i do... get it straight... maybe i have to invent a helpful device for me at first...tho if i do it holepuch way that might be easier...

I have been hoarding printer gears and bic lighter wheels for a while now myself

hmmm yeah... i still have some of that stuff on the attic...i think i have to sieve through that lot too^^

Wow, so much stuff going on in this thread! And Dave's too! I just wanted to say all of those guns and vehicles look cool. I have a real gun at home that is pretty wild. It's a Drilling. (from the German number 3), and has 2, 12 guage barrels over a 30.06 rifle barrel. I need should make one of those for 28mm scale!

I like that shotgun with the round mag though. wild!

And those super tall vehicles would most likely have some sort of steam powered thrusters on the higher decks for stabilization, right? If not, build them that way!

I really need a day job I come home and you lot have gassed on for hours it takes me ages to get through this lot and then I forget what I wanted to answer to

First to much time on your hands comes from the saying idle hands makes devils work or something to that effect, from what I can gather according to a BBC show that was on talking about British sayings (yes a whole program dedicated to that) .

Vik work so far is looking good but we do need more to make a fair and critical point of view ……. You know this so get cracking mate more pics less chatter lol .

I have to ask how you going to make that screen from scratch or nick the part from something

Steam-punk just means copper steam and a feth load of Rivets and we all love rivets


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While I remember try hassle free miniatures they do bags of clock workings bits and they are not badly priced might help you out a bit at least

D: an update omg its armagedon!!!

dsteingass wrote:Interesting, still strange to me, but interesting. Just another English phrase that is foreign to me, and I only speak English Like the phrase "bye and bye"- it means literally, "soon".>WTF? Why say three words/syllables when you only need 1 word/syllable??

you dont understand this phrase? i understand it although i dont use it at all because i take the side of it is a peice of art and thats how it gets done

American English is very utilitarian and engineer like in it's stripped down to less word usage application.

British English is still the language of bards, and hence why british blokes get so much action here in the states. Hard enough with American competitors to score a hot bird, but then you chaps from England come across the bloody pond to make it with our birds. WTF?

Just taking the Frak with our brit pals.

Face it Shas, most of the hot American birds wouldn't understand the words anyways, it's the ACCENT that does the job

^ ha, nothing like a good accent to make the day a little bit brigter! and as of seeing Blood Diamond, South African is my accent of choice

Well what can I say? ^^

Steampunk is a sub-genre of science fiction, fantasy, alternate history, and speculative fiction that came into prominence during the 1980s and early 1990s.[1] Steampunk involves a setting where steam power is still widely used—usually Victorian era Britain or "Wild West"-era United States—that incorporates elements of either science fiction or fantasy. Works of steampunk often feature anachronistic technology, or futuristic innovations as Victorians might have envisioned them, based on a Victorian perspective on fashion, culture, architectural style, art, etc. This technology includes such fictional machines as those found in the works of H. G. Wells and Jules Verne, or the contemporary authors Philip Pullman, Scott Westerfeld and China Mieville.
Other examples of steampunk contain alternative history-style presentations of such technology as lighter-than-air airships, analog computers, or such digital mechanical computers as Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace's Analytical engine.
Various modern utilitarian objects have been modded by individual artisans into a pseudo-Victorian mechanical "steampunk" style, and a number of visual and musical artists have been described as steampunk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steampunk

You have the technology...


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RSJake wrote:Oh, am so going to start calling men "Fellow" or "Chap" from now on! But yeah, I couldn't bring myself to call the hood of a car a bonnet either.

Also dont forget the trunk of a car is the boot.

shasolenzabi wrote:American English is very utilitarian and engineer like in it's stripped down to less word usage application.

British English is still the language of bards, and hence why british blokes get so much action here in the states. Hard enough with American competitors to score a hot bird, but then you chaps from England come across the bloody pond to make it with our birds. WTF?

Just taking the Frak with our brit pals.

Where about's are you based is this true I am packed and ready to go bring on the fit birds ………… hey you lot did not do to bad during the ww2 how many kids were born here because of the American invasion hell half of you have probably got relatives over here because of it

they used to say about you lot

Over paid
Over sexed
And over here

During the war ……. lol

I am really curious about the walker. What size is that piece? it is the main body of the walker? Only the sprues can allow us to figure out the scale of the piece shown.

If it is the main body piece, or the cockpit, wouldn't it be great to have a hatch, or some kind of pressurized door like those found on submarines?

I really like the way the texture is going, but I usually do it in two steps: First, I mark the likes among the wodden planks that create that surface. That helps to get the scale of the model, since we all expect planks to be of a certain size. I usually make planks of about 0.5 per 3-4 cm.
Then, I fill the planks with the irregular cuts, one plank at a time.

I am really interested about how this steampunk creature will turn out. Will it be a walker? will it be titan-sized? with Vik, who knows?

Well, Lone Dirty Dog, it could be the novelty of Yanks in England, coupled with the way we also fed the Brit war effort with lend-lease and other goodies as well as cigarettes and chocolate to boot.Plus where else to spend the money if not the dance halls and other places still not collapsed by the Luftwaffe during the Blitz?

of course I think that your spitfire pilots got plenty of action on the ground as well if you catch my meaning old bean.

Absolute bloody lootly old chap……..

lone dirty dog wrote:Absolute bloody lootly old chap……..

The main thing about if I were to go live over there is that whole wrong side of the road driving thing. Otherwise, I am sure I would adapt a bit, and i happen to be a bit of a minah bird when it comes to picking up local speech patterns after a while.

at shaso... isn´t that what everybody is capable of? i always assumed that much... it is the same here in germany too.. so many dialects been thrown at you in berlin...when you come into the specific area where said dialect is cultivated you adopt pretty fast to it in order to belong to the crowd...it is a society thing...blend in or get shut out...

at jake...thrusters...hmm...we will see if that is needed...but that now it is pointed out it will somehow slightly change the game...
and i would love to see a real pic of that gun... sounds like a friendly tool to have^^

at LDD...hmm...will have a look at their range again...last time i checked it was way backa year ago... so i need a refreshing look there... as for keeping up with all those updates...yeah it really turns out to look a bit like wading through work^^

lol

Over paid
Over sexed
And over here


and everywhere...

corrected that for you a bit^^

at RW... armageddon is upon ye wether you want it or not...it is just a matter of when not if^^

at jeroen...yep...tho i know the definitions from all those bright lads at wiki...i think the theme steampunk is something that works even better if you make up your own definition as you go along and develop thus a new kind of the overall theme...thus diversification happens...and that is always what makes a thing live longer!

at 2500kgm3 :

that piece as you see it now is the cocküpit sort of...without any bitz for the engine or anything lese really...the windowsection will follow shortly...these will be angled windowpanes that form a domelike section right in fron of the current piece ...thus making the piece even more diamond looking... the wooden boards are meant to be atm in between the metal grids one piece each...held together by the grid and of course the cement of steampunk...rivets^^
any further details will happen one at a time...of course you are right... a hatch is deeply needed...i speculate atm wether it will be a top one or a side one... so much needs to be figured out for that... could even be a underslung one and access via it by a ropeladder...or steps on the legs...
the size i aim for is a bit more massed than a sentinel...mainly due to the need for engines and such detaiuls to cover the steampunk aproach... i will shortly also make a scalle shot to show how big the current buil is and how to speculate about height issues... i really would like to hear all your thoughts about length of legs and such things... if someone has any clever ideas as to how to create a part for attaching the legs i am all open ears...that is currently an issue i am still trying to figure out...

more updates in the CET night time...

If the walker will be used like a Sentinel, then I would imagine the thing should sit about the same height and the legs be the same length as a sentinel no?

well this is where it might become a slightly bit complicated? i don´t own one ... so i have to make up as go along...but you are in essence right my friend...

Ah Vik, I have known many who do not adapt like that, some even refuse to, those soon find that they do not blend ion, nor do they gain acceptanc3e with such stubborness to stay as they are.

well... the quote...when in rom do as the romans do... was always one of my favorites... i like to speak my english by the way as grimey as possible for one day to be in a pub and to blend in there... one day...^^

Here we call them either bars, or nightclubs
Pubs are sometimes found, but only when they are tying to attract a different kind of customers. Mostly ones who never have been to Europe but like to act as if they did.,

@ Vic - These aren't pictures of my gun (I really should take some pictures, at least for insurance purposes), just some I found online. Made by Sauer and Son, model 300. Pretty sweet, my favorite gun that I own by far.



Mine does not have the external hammers, but if I made a 28mm scale version of it, it would have the hammers, I like them.

How did the job day go Vik?

Looking forwad to the Tie-fighter cockpit!

at dave:

job day was over qicker than i thought, tho nothing to be feared out of that... i think i showed good work and good helpful spirit... tomorrow as oposed to the last days i will assist the other nursery nurses in the after school time...mostyl games and hobbywork...our friend chibi used to hold a gaming club under similar conditions in a libary...with youngsters...


at jake... now if that would be your gun, i´d say...nice one... for what reason is the third barrel? do you hunt different game with it? for when a buckshot doesn´t work?...interresting weaponmaking! thanks for helping out with a pic!

at hazzer... sorry tiefighter cockpit is not done yet... went to town with the iron "cage" around it but the next step will be the windowpanes of said cockpit to make... this will be a puzzler as the angled look to figure out the parts to cut wont be easy for me...

at shaso... well here in germany you get many pubs... irish ones mostly... during my university times i visited them more often...funny times^^ sometimes with liuve music even...those were the best!

here are some pics of my recent work...

the first pics show my feeble attempts to make my own cogwheels...used a feltpen hat for the bigger set of cogs... with these not enoght teeth i think... the rest is either filed or holepunched attempts to make cogs out of 5mm discs... still searching for a good methode...







then the promised and updated scaleshot of the cockpit...now with all bigger parts of the steel cage attached... tank and bearer are for the needed scale refferences...






vik

OOH! wow love it man!

Your standard bearer is pointing at something, he is saying "put a rivet there"

lol...thanks mate!...and as they used to say...you ain´t seen nuffin`yet^^

more hopefully to come tomorrow...

dsteingass wrote:Your standard bearer is pointing at something, he is saying "put a rivet there"

Looks good, and thinking about the limbs, I think altered sentinel legs might work- lots of manouvreability (sp?) and comes with a nice ball socket.
might be too small, but maybe a bit of thickening with plasticard might do the trick.
thinking GW-wise, I think I'd go that way. Dunno about other companies though.

well as it happens to be i own a pair of sentinel legs... but i wanted to make a complete scratchbuild...the thing is if it works out i can always rebuilt it...as scratchbuilding material i have enough...well when i say enough...i have talked to my wife and we will go shopping saturday in a hobbydepot...so there is bound to be a new suplydrop at the weekend^^

and lol...dave...somehow that was meant that way even...^^

hmm those large cog wheels look convinving

The cogs look good to me like the cutting felt tip pens up for cogs (endless supply working in a school Glad the job is going well must be nice having a job you enjoy or at least don't mind.

I would scratch build the legs completely it will be more fun plus you will achieve a better and unique look, the early progress is looking good although he is right you do need a rivet there.

You could also call a pub the boozer just for reference……

Starting to shape up Vik! as for pubs, well, I do recall the way German pubs were back when I was in Neu Ulm. Also got to go to Munchen as well. Have never seen salted radish stateside except for one German style Pub back on Long Island.

salted radish...now that is something not for the faint of heart^^ or tongue^^

to make it clear this weak is just for trial to see if i could start an apprenticeship in that job... here you always have to have certificates to actually get a job and keep it... but honestly i prefer talent above papers any day... if you are able to do a job...do it...but here it is always paper...you can´t do gak without paper...well that is actually the one thing i also am quite glad for enough paper^^

at RW...thanks for the comment about the bigger cogs... that will make the construction thus way easier with that problem solved...

at LDD...you are well ahead of the game already^^ i have just made a mockup for you all to comment on...i have in my hands some thirty or something chopsticks from small ice on a stick packages... courtesy of my wife...she works in a kindergarden...and thus sometoimes gets stuff like that in heaps...and she tends to think what might interests me hobbywise^^ so here i made a very crude and barren leg...never mind the rubber bands...the leg will have a feet/toe section later on and the shinbone and the thigh section...pistons on each section for convincing movemnt aperature of course..



so please tell me what you think...

vik

Early signs good and I am glad you are not taking the easy way out on this, plus I was thinking most steam-punk walkers seem quite long legged so a hight difference to the IG walker would look better (it's a bit stumpy the IG walker).

Seems you have a plan for this as well……… have you got a shot of the legs next to the cockpit with a mini for scale and size purpose it will help to give an idea on the height ratio.


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I don't know if you looked but these might help or not and there are different weight bags as well
http://www.hfminis.co.uk/shop?product=steampunk--parts-2g~hfcogs2&category=accessories%7Esteampunk-stuff

will do a shot of leg and cockpit in the night!

no easy anyhow^^

the cogs from hasslefree look good but i think i have to come up with something plastic as i know don´t like to use superglue in the mix in between...i think i have to get one cog right and then make pressmoulds...

Nice vik!Looking good!

press moulds why not make a mould and cast in resin

Because he doesnt have the stuff for casting, same here, but it isn't for lack of want, it's more of an affordability/scared issue.

I see I just bit the bullet and had ago some things work some don't, but glad I did save me time and repartition and was great for making tank wheels from scratch can you imagine repeating that over and over again

Hey salted radish actually works for making one want more Beer! Scary how much more so than pretzels.

I see you have some nice leg sections for your steamy-punk sentinel.

Viktor von Domm wrote:
at LDD...you are well ahead of the game already^^ i have just made a mockup for you all to comment on...i have in my hands some thirty or something chopsticks from small ice on a stick packages... courtesy of my wife...she works in a kindergarden...and thus sometoimes gets stuff like that in heaps...and she tends to think what might interests me hobbywise^^ so here i made a very crude and barren leg...never mind the rubber bands...the leg will have a feet/toe section later on and the shinbone and the thigh section...pistons on each section for convincing movemnt aperature of course..



so please tell me what you think...

Great start! You are more ambitious than I, sir Someday I want to build a Thunderbolt from (almost) scratch. That someday will probably be in a zillion years...

Keep it up!

Rawson

I'm not sure what you have in mind for actuators and mechanical bits Vik, it would help us to provide suggestions if we had a sketch or something to go on. What is in that head of yours?

Assuming you want the legs to be motivated by hydraulics and such (not mysteriously enclosed in the leg like the AT-ST) to maintain the steampunk look, I would suggest that you extend the joints a bit to allow places to connect your actuators and hydraulics or what-not.

My sketch would not actually work, I didnt put much thought into it mechanically, but you get the idea- you really need to have a plan on how the thing moves before you can commit to any glue methinks.

As for gears, this guy makes paper steampunk walkers http://phillipvaldez.blogspot.com/2009_05_01_archive.html
It looks as if he prints them, then cuts out the printed areas- you could do the same thing, except you would need to make your template from paper, then trace the template onto the plasticard for the big gears



And you know I can't condone the blasphemy of using Lego parts, but I would suggest you "explore the functionality of" this technic part

Better for Steampunk would be to have the pistons 'bridging the gap' as it were, instead of so flush with the leg. First off, it increases the mechanical advantage the piston has, meaning it requires less energy to move the leg, and second, well, it just looks more steampunk.

sketch what you mean Anvildude, I'm almost following..

dsteingass wrote:
And you know I can't condone the blasphemy of using Lego parts, but I would suggest you "explore the functionality of" this technic part

Weel you've never met the Chaos Space Marines! Really nice chaps really, just the slannesh guys have a bit if a skin problem.

Is this sort of what you mean Anvil?


At first glance, this seems like it would limit movement some, due to the rigid pistons, almost as if you need to first decide how far the limb's range of motion is, and then find a placement for the piston that allows it at the maximum extension and the minimum extension.

That is what I meant. Unless Dakka's got an in-browser sketch system somewhere that I don't know about, I'm not that fast with the sketchings.

Thing is, it would actually not limit range of motion as much as the close to leg system would, simply because you can always have a different bracket system letting you possibly even hyperextend the joint.

GIMP, it's the only graphics tool you will ever need bro

Oh, I got the GIMP. It's just the whole- download the picture, boot up GIMP, do the changes, save the picture, upload it to Dakka, then put it in the thread. I like spur of the moment stuff.

I bet It took you longer to type all that than it would have to actually do it

I use paint and photobucket.

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*slips out*

wow mates... that is quite helpful... i really like, love even this sitting together and really thinking about such a modeling problem!
both, anvil and dave are onto something good here...personally i can see both ways to be used...heck the inner (left piston) of dave ´s first sketch is just the longer version of the "anvildudes" design... i think a mixture of both ...would that be a solution...i am really getting wet hands when i see that stuff...mates many thanks...

oh and while we are at it... how would you solve the leg to body problem? this is a major issue atm with me too...

oh and dave...i know already valdez stuff... he is a genius...isn´t he? everybody that dabbles in steampunk i think will at one point stumble over his walker!

i do by the way own the pistons from lego, but there is literally no way i would steal those from my kids... we only have about three or four...and one day they will need them, so they are safe and will stay that way^^ promise!

by the way... nice way of drawing dave! this seems to be a talent of yours...quick and to the point...remarkably!

at hazzer...thanks mate and ...lol^^

shrike... i do have flicker...and then all the other stuff... i should even pour out such stuff like dave...as i have now a graphic tablet since chrimbo...but atm i had no time of getting to know it better...

at rawson... seeing your awsome conversions of your leman russes... i think you should conquer your fears...i think you have it in you to amaze yourself!^^

at shaso... bet that the salty taste helps bring on the need for refreshing beer...although i those circumstances i would prefer more beefy reasons for beery beverages...^^


no updates atm... came home pretty late today from the school...was a bit worn out so i will get tomorrow as i have no apointment then and will do some of your ideas and put them into white and grey plastic^^ you are truly the best followers one can hope for!

vik

Hmm.The steam boiler would have to drive a shaft or steam piston. If it is a shaft, then the shaft would have to have a series of gears that allowed the legs to sort of "pivot at the hips" But in order to engage one leg at a time to actually walk, there would need to be some sort of gearbox or transmission that allowed each leg to move independently.

OR, you could just make a cool-looking mess of gears and pretend it really works

OR, you could just make a cool-looking mess of gears and pretend it really works

lol...

but i do like your first idea more...so more an underslung boiler and the means for transmision under the cockpit than my first idea to have it behind the cockpit...hmm...i think i like that...

How a bout a sliding piston on the leg, buy this I mean the piston on the top of the leg is in a fixed position but where the lower leg is attached to the drive piston it is fixed to a sliding plate on the leg allowing more movement if that makes sense.

As for the independent leg movement could you not have two small independent boilers for each leg or am I just being stupid

Hmmm, you could, but the idea is that the boiler creates your fuel supply and compresses it, the steam. Then to harness the energy in the steam, you have a piston engine. There is nothing stopping you from making a single boiler, but have two independant engines both sharing the same steam supply though, like LDD said

hmmm... since the boiler has to be fired...i doubt two would be advisable...beside... we all do know that boilers are a heck of a unsatifing means to power something up... for such a massive object a boiler must be at least the size of the cockpit, if not bigger...

two smaller ones... i can´t see that happening...if you want...make a mockuo pic and proove me wrong^^

as for the first suggestion...i can´t picture that...for lack of technoligical understanding...when something gets to tech complicated i am out of my depths language wise^^


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thanks dave... as written above...thought the same^^

Well, this is steampunk, you can't use integrated circuits, but you can imagine that they have developed some new way of compressing the steam, and using smaller boilers than were common in our own history You have some room to fluff it here and there, it is fiction after all

of course there might be a fluffy solution...but in my guts the whole walker issue is using a fluffy solution as to how on earth could such a device be energy efficient already up... i think i have to make the build convincing...having two power "cells" like LDD sugested would bring me in a state to not believe in my model anymore...

Yeah, perhaps we are overthinking it, perhaps it just needs to be badass, steampunky, gearey, rivety goodness?

I'm not THAT kind of engineer, but I don't think a Leman Russ would ever work if it was built either

in all of these you are totally right^^...tomorrow will bring some light into that matter...need to really built for this more...


as for the LR...ask shaso if that rusty tin could work at all^^

Hey I am just chucking some ideas out there I did not say I knew what I what I was doing lol

As for the 2 smaller boilers was more for the independent power supply which as you both have pointed out would be rather useless on several counts (but might have looked good) point taken.

However the first part of my suggestion was as in the second picture where the piston is between the leg sections , the bottom of the piston is fixed to a plate on the leg that can slide up and down the lower section of the leg increasing the movability of the leg.

I will see if i can draw something to explain but it will have to be tomorrow as I can barely keep my eyes open at the moment I am nackered

Just read some of your post that has happened as I was writing slowly but there is a way of increasing steam power by reducing the area around it which it has to travel using smaller piping as it builds therefor increasing its force therefore increasing power and energy out put I think.

I saw something on the discovery channel about it its to do with build up of power by forcing it in ever decreasing space by doing this it increases it power levels

Well, there's 3 drive systems that are really 'steampunk'-y. The first is piston drive, using tubing to go from the boiler, into a distribution manifold, into the proper pistons. This would be the most powerful, and the most versatile, but would require miniscule detailing, and might not provide many opportunities for making it look cool.

The second is gearing- this is clunky and heavy, but looks cool- a good way to do alternating legs would be a partial or 'cut' gear for the primary drive, so each leg only gets power for part of the rotation.

The third is Belt drive, which is similar to the gears, but using belts for long-distance power transference, and friction drives for power distribution.

Anvildude wrote:Well, there's 3 drive systems that are really 'steampunk'-y. The first is piston drive, using tubing to go from the boiler, into a distribution manifold, into the proper pistons. This would be the most powerful, and the most versatile, but would require miniscule detailing, and might not provide many opportunities for making it look cool.

The second is gearing- this is clunky and heavy, but looks cool- a good way to do alternating legs would be a partial or 'cut' gear for the primary drive, so each leg only gets power for part of the rotation.

The third is Belt drive, which is similar to the gears, but using belts for long-distance power transference, and friction drives for power distribution.

Or a conbination of the second 2! Like gears and chains (like bicycle chains) driving the legs. I'll see if I can draw what I mean.

at LDD... i can follow you now...this last point you describe is exactly how steam power works...and how i want to use it for this built...hopefully i am able to...

at anvildude... the cut gear idea...that is pretty cool...hmmm...but the pistons for me are the foremost way to portray the steampower idea...tho i really like your ideas...beltdriven methode sounds nice but i suspect highly complicated for modeling...if it was only for a lego constrction i would probably use that one...

oh and i hope i can proove you worng with the piston argument of yours...and make it indeed looking cool^^


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at jake... what i meant when saying lego...exactly like you described!


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oh and...

can barely keep my eyes open at the moment I am nackered

i second that for my own feeling atm...which brings me to wish you all my friends a good night...see you tomorrow...

Night Vic! Here is what I meant. Sorry it's a bit small.

Niiice!

Yeah, and Big gears on the sentinel's hips, that would just look badass!

I like big gears and I cannot lie....

dsteingass wrote:Niiice!

Yeah, and Big gears on the sentinel's hips, that would just look badass!

I like big gears and I cannot lie....

Those big round wheels and the itty-bitty teeth,,,,sprung!

LMAO!!

oo doing a sentinal like that would look awsome!

the ork deff roalla handel things i used on my knight should look like great leg replacments

nice jake...will remember this for future steps of the built!

big gear...argh...now big´uns...and i was desperatly trying to make them small^^ make up yer minds ye lot^^

at fatty... looked through your gallery and couldn´t find that model...care to share?^^

as for my work...i am currently working high intesity^^ on the legs... thankfully the icechopsticks took well to the glue...so i am even working on the toes...an update will follow shortly i think...something that will bring a hell lot of light into that build...

also...that testors glue is pretty heady stuff... dazzled me uite good... i hope my wife doens´t g spare on me alter on...the windows for now will remain open^^