Mark Twain is a must read for all. He is one of our great authors.

Masking tape is paper based, so you're getting that paper lantern effect. Try some colored masking tapes and see what you get.

People do in fact develop problems like what you're getting. Some can be very severe, so stop using the isocyanacrylate glues for a while, and let the skin heal. It should not take long if it is a rash/allergic reaction. Otherwise, do see a dermatologist. Worst case, you have to stop using glues like that, or wear gloves of some sort. I know someone who had to. (not me, I just can't take the smell of superglue, but I can use it.)

Since it is spreading, as you wrote, and if it doesn't improve by the week-end, see a doktor. Bitte.

I would say its a reaction to the glue try using gloves and see if it stops, don't hack it off though that would be drastic just scrape of the skin when you see bone stop

Don't take medical advice from dakka...ever lol.

Actually, ldd has a point...if you just scrape away the flesh till you see bone you could then do some nice scrimshaw work on the finger bones, much more of a manly man thing than some poncy tattos or piercings.....

SEE YOUR DOCTOR NOW!

The gift your hands give us is too precious. Go to the docs. And start wearing gloves where possible.

This is not a valid excuse for stopping your current project mind you, so get on with it, your allowed a couple hours off for medical I suppose.

 monkeytroll wrote:
Actually, ldd has a point...if you just scrape away the flesh till you see bone you could then do some nice scrimshaw work on the finger bones, much more of a manly man thing than some poncy tattos or piercings.....

Tattoos are for wimps blades are for MEN !!!!!


Come on who would take medical advice of someone called lone dirty dog and Monkeytroll if you are please stop now

Vik what kind of lighting have you used by the way ?

You even have a proper health care system, here a visit like that may cause someone to go bankrupt, but people here are stupid and are convinced to vote against their own best interests by corporate spin doctors, a non - medical doctor who'd rather see your finger fall off of infection and rot for profit. #murica

dsteingass wrote:Maybe you're having a reaction to the glue? If you take a Benadryl (and then a nap) will that help maybe?

had a look...it seems that medicine /crème is not that easily accessible here... seems I will have to visit a dermatologist ...

Theophony wrote:How long have you had the rash/discoloration? Might just be a reaction like Dave said, but if it's going on for a while I think it might be something else.
Either way it's a perfect chance for you to take a photo and let dakkadakka see your middle finger.

well...to be honest it is a skin condition that flares up occasionally...and then can completely disappear for days and weeks... I have for about two years this itchy and sometimes even wet condition... it is quite ugly at times...maybe I take a pic ... but I will need to open a nurgle related thread before then^^

monkeytroll wrote:Yeah, possibly the glue, sometimes can cause reactions with sensitive skin. Is it causing any pain or discomfort?

You could always just hack it off with your trusty xacto if it looks like it's spreading

well... funny you should mention cutting it off.... you wouldn´t believe how oft I have thought about gnawing it off...honestly...the itching can be quite intense.... one must of course now ask why I haven´t already been to a doc... well as I said it comes and goes... so when it isn´t there you think all is nice and you don´t make an appointment... but when it is there you have not enough free time to actually see this through... and I am a bit squeamish around docs... they tend to cut off bits for no apparent laymen´s reasons

inmygravenimage wrote:Almost certainly an allergic reaction, indeed.

well... I am not entirely sure... but in the end it needs a doc to look over this...

Theophony wrote:

 monkeytroll wrote:

You could always just hack it off with your trusty xacto if it looks like it's spreading

So misread this , I was picturing Vik with an xacto hand now like Bruce Campbell army of darkness

"Good Vik, Bad Vik, I'm the one with a number 11 xacto blade "

that probably needs a photoshop mockup

Red Harvest wrote:Mark Twain is a must read for all. He is one of our great authors.

Masking tape is paper based, so you're getting that paper lantern effect. Try some colored masking tapes and see what you get.

People do in fact develop problems like what you're getting. Some can be very severe, so stop using the isocyanacrylate glues for a while, and let the skin heal. It should not take long if it is a rash/allergic reaction. Otherwise, do see a dermatologist. Worst case, you have to stop using glues like that, or wear gloves of some sort. I know someone who had to. (not me, I just can't take the smell of superglue, but I can use it.)

Since it is spreading, as you wrote, and if it doesn't improve by the week-end, see a doktor. Bitte.

I have experimented with washes and different paints to get a colored version of the paper lantern effect... all natural it works, but once colored it is ruined...
and I think I am only recently warming up to new authors... weird I know... my education never was set to get me motivated to read the classics... and since I've found in terry pratchett my author of choice to provide me with humor and education and others... I haven´t been up to look for new stuff... I know now that I will soon start with some classics tho... recently we came across moby dick...(here in school this is not a must- read like in the US...and some twain will be needed too...!)
as for the skin... well it isn´t for one the isocyanacrylate associated as I seldom use any super glue... currently only plastic glue of revell...and that actually shouldn´t cause this reaction...and as I said above... it is an on/off situation for about two years now......yeah I know... will see a doc ^^

lone dirty dog wrote:I would say its a reaction to the glue try using gloves and see if it stops, don't hack it off though that would be drastic just scrape of the skin when you see bone stop

funny side fact... I use gloves when doing the dishes... and I have the idea that this also is somehow affecting the mix....

dsteingass wrote:Don't take medical advice from dakka...ever lol.

...well...I've asked for this...one way or the other... in for a penny in for a pound

monkeytroll wrote:Actually, ldd has a point...if you just scrape away the flesh till you see bone you could then do some nice scrimshaw work on the finger bones, much more of a manly man thing than some poncy tattos or piercings.....

see above... ^^ but without sinews and muscles I am not able to wield a knife....

Camkierhi wrote:SEE YOUR DOCTOR NOW!

The gift your hands give us is too precious. Go to the docs. And start wearing gloves where possible.

This is not a valid excuse for stopping your current project mind you, so get on with it, your allowed a couple hours off for medical I suppose.

that is such a heartwarming compliment mister! thank you very much!!!

lone dirty dog wrote:

 monkeytroll wrote:
Actually, ldd has a point...if you just scrape away the flesh till you see bone you could then do some nice scrimshaw work on the finger bones, much more of a manly man thing than some poncy tattos or piercings.....

Tattoos are for wimps blades are for MEN !!!!!


Come on who would take medical advice of someone called lone dirty dog and Monkeytroll if you are please stop now

Vik what kind of lighting have you used by the way ?

I've used a Christmas window chain of LED lights battery fed... really LED technology is a gift from the heavens for us hobbyist´s...isn´t it?... it is rather cold...it is easy to manage and it is versatile and easily accessible even for electrical noobs as me...!!!

dsteingass wrote:You even have a proper health care system, here a visit like that may cause someone to go bankrupt, but people here are stupid and are convinced to vote against their own best interests by corporate spin doctors, a non - medical doctor who'd rather see your finger fall off of infection and rot for profit. #murica

totally with you mate on that... there is a couple of needful things like communication, health, culture and feeding I think should actually be free for every human being... but the pushers and misers out there are making a hefty dollar for charging us for everything except the fresh air... if they would have their way with us it would be just like total recall...if you know what I mean...


thanks mates... for all your concern... it is a very warm feeling I get from all of these reactions... even the crueller suggestions

and to show even here what I have been up to the last moments...:







cheers, vik

Although if you did cut it off, there would be a great conversion opportunity, possibly involving rivets.

Vik take care of thy hands! your health is the most you have as a resource in this world. Trust me, do not take chances.

Drawbidge for the road competiton is a mind blower.

Firstly nice working bridge getting technical now and what basis is this being used with.

Now just a thought but maybe keep some kind of record every time the rash and itch flares up, that way you might be able to work out what is causing it.

Brigde is coming along great, but I'd rather see proof of your upcoming doctor's appointment now!

(If the rash comes and goes, take a few pictures of it in case - as it usually happens - it is gone when you get to the clinic! And don't forget to mention the dish-washing gloves either, rubber and latex can provoke allergies too)

Good luck with that.

Yeah, I was just thinking some plasti-card for the base, make some banks, for country road or maybe sidewalks for city scape, then I see the drawbridge and think, "I got no chance!"

finger related stuff...




on a related matter... if there is a bridge... then there needs to be something that crosses the bridge... right?... well here comes the first bit of that crossing item...







as Red Harvest said in the competitions opening speak... you should try something you haven´t tried before... my wife told me it would be the time to work with round shapes... so thus I have made the roof of that wagon round...
that piece is probably the last piece of a train I am currently working on... a steampunk train of course... whether it will have tracks or not remains to be seen... a land train is also something that has quite some appeal to me...

and this is what will be the next piece of said train...:


this is a cheap toy I got from a fleamarket... and I wont use all pieces as the locomotive was way too wide... but the fender will be used and the other parts will be used eventually on other projects... as I want to use lego cart wheels for the whole build...


cheers and hope you´ll like... vik

Amazing work Vik, good use of toy parts, but that wagon steals the show. You are really pushing it this time.

well... I've felt I let the old steampunk theme down a bit the past projects... I need to get back into the full steam again^^

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

as Red Harvest said in the competitions opening speak... you should try something you haven´t tried before... my wife told me it would be the time to work with round shapes...

I was wondering where this was heading for a minute

Nice job on the train carriage you really are lifting the game these days and your commitment needs to be congratulated as well.

The rail is a very detailed piece have you considered doing a canopy over the balcony section ?

You have way better flea markets than we get around here unless you can find a great conversion that requires old garden tools

I've missed far too much!

Amazing work as always Vik.
Since im back here now again, i may need to start a project too at some point

Oh, thats a mighty fine looking wagon you have there mister.....

Good job with that vik, really looking forward to seeing where that goes.

Oh Vik...you're opening a wonderful can here! That wagon is mnd-blowing, and the wheels you have promise such wonderful things to come with the engine!

So anyone else hear "Peace Train" while perusing this page.

Nice Idea Vik. ANd love the extra bits from the flea market. Reminds to me to hit up the local dollar store sometime for, er supplies. I'll need to take a mock up of a vehicle though, for scale. I need some construction vehicles for the table.

I don't know wether you just save up all your pics till and post them all together or if you are just a crazily fast builder, with great quality as well!

MMMmmmmm good rivity wagon!! Great work Vik.... awesome work and the bridge is looking great!! The chains and movement look spot on!

You can tell Vik is busy working on his models as his posts become less less chatter more riveting

I think Vic gets distracted a lot less than i do, as that's a crazy amount of work

Good work on the (soon to be) train.
Nice selection of parts you got from the toy and what you have collected there.

Go Steampunk!

More coolness factor! rounded top, rivets, all looking good Vik!

I love the idea of this. There's not enough steampunk trains out there.

lone dirty dog wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

as Red Harvest said in the competitions opening speak... you should try something you haven´t tried before... my wife told me it would be the time to work with round shapes...

I was wondering where this was heading for a minute

Nice job on the train carriage you really are lifting the game these days and your commitment needs to be congratulated as well.

The rail is a very detailed piece have you considered doing a canopy over the balcony section ?

You have way better flea markets than we get around here unless you can find a great conversion that requires old garden tools

probably no better flea markets here... I've seen stuff here other peeps at dakka found on world wide fleamarkets... I was only lucky^^
the canopy I think wont happening as I have no idea how to make this...?...
and the competition is hard...always hard... and as cam said...I am always the brides maid... so I need to raise the game^^

Jackal wrote:I've missed far too much!

Amazing work as always Vik.
Since im back here now again, i may need to start a project too at some point

QFT!!! you are one lazy man ... I know a spell of RL can always hinder the hobby ... welcome back mate!

monkeytroll wrote:Oh, thats a mighty fine looking wagon you have there mister.....

Good job with that vik, really looking forward to seeing where that goes.

well... that is exactly why I have to show you the next stage of the train... aka the engine...see below... and make sure to add some helpful comments as they are gravely needed!!!

dsteingass wrote:Oh Vik...you're opening a wonderful can here! That wagon is mnd-blowing, and the wheels you have promise such wonderful things to come with the engine!

I will only use lego cartwheels... ordered around 50 more of these recently... should arrive soon too... the wheels you see on the last pics are of the toy train... but these won´t fit the general scheme I am looking for... but thanks mate...I hoped it would tingle your taste buds^^

Red Harvest wrote:So anyone else hear "Peace Train" while perusing this page.

Nice Idea Vik. ANd love the extra bits from the flea market. Reminds to me to hit up the local dollar store sometime for, er supplies. I'll need to take a mock up of a vehicle though, for scale. I need some construction vehicles for the table.

I don´t know that song???... I have to do some bit of research methinks then^^... now there is an idea... a steampunk digger....

Rogue Wolves wrote:I don't know wether you just save up all your pics till and post them all together or if you are just a crazily fast builder, with great quality as well!

caught me there...^^...I quite often keep all quiet and then with a tidal wave present my stuff.... but sometimes work flyes smoothly and you are overproductive and then I can even show you life feed so to say^^ and...thanks!!!

MagosBiff90 wrote:MMMmmmmm good rivity wagon!! Great work Vik.... awesome work and the bridge is looking great!! The chains and movement look spot on!
do you see these rivets???... without your nudge in the roght direction this would look quite different... I love these finger nail rivets!... easy to work with and the glue so well with plastic glue too!!!

lone dirty dog wrote:You can tell Vik is busy working on his models as his posts become less less chatter more riveting

^that!

M0rdain wrote:I think Vic gets distracted a lot less than i do, as that's a crazy amount of work

I wouldn´t say this that way.... well at least I have no babies to take care of... back in the days this was nice and cuddly all over... but I am thankfull that these days are past actually... I love getting more than 4 hours worth of sleep a day

Dr H wrote:Good work on the (soon to be) train.
Nice selection of parts you got from the toy and what you have collected there.

Go Steampunk!

go steampunk or go home thanks mate!

shasolenzabi wrote:More coolness factor! rounded top, rivets, all looking good Vik!

these rivets are cheap and the most effective thing I have yet worked with...a chineese producer and these are 1mm big only... a really cool thing... I have worked with these already on minis too and they look ace!!!

inmygravenimage wrote:I love the idea of this. There's not enough steampunk trains out there.

hear, hear, hear!!!!

also... please help me with my endeavours...I am currently building myself into a corner here...

I dunno where to put smoke stacks and other needful details...





the engine is limited in height as it needs to cross the bridge and there is only a limited height possible...

and I am open for other ideas too...


cheers, vik(off as I need to run to my sons school now...)

As to the dilemma of the engine the only thing I can consider is maybe reducing the size of the front engine section, maybe a smaller tube it might change the aesthetics a little but might give you more space to play with as to height.

These rivets you speak of are they readily available as I don't think I have seen these I will send a you PM concerning the canopy issue

well, the tank of the engine is a scavenged pop up ice popsicle... and the curved half sphere at the front was my instant idea to make that steamtank from...hmmm....

got your pm... thx!!! a heap!... know I have an idea!

I was thinking about the smokestack ... am I under the rule that the smokestacks have to be upright?...I was thinking of maybe making them look like the exhausts of a bomma?... would that work too?...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
finger related stuff...

Spoiler:

M0rdain wrote:Although if you did cut it off, there would be a great conversion opportunity, possibly involving rivets.

I dunno if my wife object to that conversion... although... in the kitchen
this would become really...wait for it...handy...

shasolenzabi wrote:Vik take care of thy hands! your health is the most you have as a resource in this world. Trust me, do not take chances.

Drawbidge for the road competiton is a mind blower.

thanks mate... still haven´t made an appointment... but now that my kids are at school again it will happen...

lone dirty dog wrote:Firstly nice working bridge getting technical now and what basis is this being used with.

Now just a thought but maybe keep some kind of record every time the rash and itch flares up, that way you might be able to work out what is causing it.

have thought about that record keeping too...hmm....and thanks mate! well... it will be a free standing terrain piece... so it can be used for streets or rivers that this bridge has to cross from time to time^^

Littletower wrote:Brigde is coming along great, but I'd rather see proof of your upcoming doctor's appointment now!

(If the rash comes and goes, take a few pictures of it in case - as it usually happens - it is gone when you get to the clinic! And don't forget to mention the dish-washing gloves either, rubber and latex can provoke allergies too)

Good luck with that.

the gloves for dishwashing are actually my favorite cause... I wouldn´t want the plastic glue or the plastic card be the prime suspects....
and the picturetaking is quite a good idea!

shasolenzabi wrote:Yeah, I was just thinking some plasti-card for the base, make some banks, for country road or maybe sidewalks for city scape, then I see the drawbridge and think, "I got no chance!"

hehe^^... we´ll see about that^^

on a related matter... if there is a bridge... then there needs to be something that crosses the bridge... right?... well here comes the first bit of that crossing item...







as Red Harvest said in the competitions opening speak... you should try something you haven´t tried before... my wife told me it would be the time to work with round shapes... so thus I have made the roof of that wagon round...
that piece is probably the last piece of a train I am currently working on... a steampunk train of course... whether it will have tracks or not remains to be seen... a land train is also something that has quite some appeal to me...

and this is what will be the next piece of said train...:


this is a cheap toy I got from a fleamarket... and I wont use all pieces as the locomotive was way too wide... but the fender will be used and the other parts will be used eventually on other projects... as I want to use lego cart wheels for the whole build...


cheers and hope you´ll like... vik

This boiler is quite 19th century not the 20th one.
Why not Belpaire firebox? meow~

the above shown boiler won´t be used for that project as it is way too wide... but will be eventually put to good use in future endeavours for sure...

I am always working with what I have...and what I am capable of... also my work is always some kind of weird mix between homage and mockery...... so with my rather insufficient knowledge of real technology I am leaning more to mockery probably of anything I am doing here ... I did however a quick google picture search of "Belpaire firebox" and that was quite educative! so thanks lone cat!

I was about to say, but you thought of it yourself first. Who says that smoke stacks have to be upright. Coming out of the side or back would be cool. Think of the american hot rods that have the exhausts right out of the engine rather than out the back.

Yes its steampunk after all standard rules don't apply I kind of like the idea of them running down the side of the engine maybe raising slightly to clear the cab compartment after all you don't want the driver to get steam burn

Found these pics and thought they might help to inspire

Last pic just for fun

Belpaire firebox. This is why I love the P&M blogs. Always learning something

The locomotives with tracks are intriguing, especially the one from RL. Where is it from? it would make a great scratch built vehicle.

M0rdain wrote:I was about to say, but you thought of it yourself first. Who says that smoke stacks have to be upright. Coming out of the side or back would be cool. Think of the american hot rods that have the exhausts right out of the engine rather than out the back.

Spoiler:

these were originally my ideas for getting the exhaust issue solved too... but I have to say LDD raises below even a better suited solution...

lone dirty dog wrote:Yes its steampunk after all standard rules don't apply I kind of like the idea of them running down the side of the engine maybe raising slightly to clear the cab compartment after all you don't want the driver to get steam burn

Found these pics and thought they might help to inspire

Last pic just for fun

I like these immensely... but you need to tell me what you fed the search engine with... what was your key word here? I've spent ages in front of google and these pics I swear I've never seen...

Red Harvest wrote:Belpaire firebox. This is why I love the P&M blogs. Always learning something

The locomotives with tracks are intriguing, especially the one from RL. Where is it from? it would make a great scratch built vehicle.

indeed... dakka is a think tank and one of the best ways to ease education in ones braincells ^^

also... LDD provided me with an idea for a canopy and I put it to good use... proof tomorrow^^

Oh yeah, you can let the imagination go wild with the smokestacks on this- you could even imagine a tech that eliminates the smoke all together if you want







Even on real locos, as long as the smoke escapes above the driver, it can be small

I actually think the hot rod style of exhaust would look really cool on this train, it would definitely make it look faster!

Crazy trains! Just don't see how the drive of the train is to work Vik. where is the big wheel with the piston arm?

In later years, they didn't all have one big drive wheel, they had many smaller wheels. Besides, its steampunk, rule of cool is #1

Vik type in "steampunk train"

Although Dave has come up with a few stunners there mate

Wow I've missed a day and so many cool pics from Vik. Plus all these ideas that are being posted too. The smokestack should be near the conductor and it should be vented through a pot bellied stove so the drive can cook meals on the way to/from where he's going. Bridges coming along nicely too Vik.

I like Trains

I love how so many of those fantasy trains shown are, in a way, what steam locomotives probably would have ended up evolving into if the Diesel Electric hadn't squished them.

Gas-fueled boilers and incredibly complex and efficient heat, water and energy reclaimation systems, packaged in smaller and smaller, more and more compact interconnected and interlinked bundles off machinery.

Vik's going off the rails, on a crazy train...

I figured out what I was looking for: the Siege Train from Wild West Exodus:

Saw the pics in a gencon review (maybe dstein's?)

While browsing for Steampunk trains i cam across a picture of Vic

Hah!

Well, I think plenty of others have already mentioned it, but side venting exhausts a la hotrods would be a good look. Some great pics from Dave and dog there...saved into my inspiration folder.

Vik, real-life "Franco-Crosti"-boilers are just what you are looking for.



Just returned to dakka after a whíle, and I find the riveteers as busy as ever! It is pure entertainment to watch your creations. Man, that toilet... bleargh...

Blimps, trains and tanks. Viktoria travels in style..

Blimps, trains and tanks. Viktoria travels in style..

I am just thinking first a squad of parade uniform rough riders with small pendants (Praetorian style), then a brass band (all steam-powered walking automatons of course,like sousaphones on legs playing themselves), then Sabre Rider on his robo-horse, next some even more polished-up rough riders carrying a huge imperial banner, surrounding a small troupe of lametta-guys (the Imperial Herald and his goons), then a self-propelled HUUUUGE stage-coach-style steam carriage covered in gold, coats-of-arms, trumpet-playing puttos, baroque swirls and acanthus, on top some big-moustachio livree-style guy with an enormous ceremonial bull-whip, next to his twin with a post-horn, on the back four to six smallish livree guys trying not to fall from their small platform while looking dignified, then steam powered sentinels, even more rough riders, steam tanks, carriages with entourage ad libitum...


And here is another variant of Franco-Crosti-boilers, this loco was elected to be the ugliest steam engine ever by the writers of a certain railway compendium. Now I think this is not fair, but just because there are lots of even more disproportioned tryouts out there on the rails...

 dsteingass wrote:
Oh yeah, you can let the imagination go wild with the smokestacks on this- you could even imagine a tech that eliminates the smoke all together if you want







Even on real locos, as long as the smoke escapes above the driver, it can be small

Look at the First All-Metal war vessel. USS Monitor, (Also the first 360 degree traversible turret vehicle). .... smokestack can be THIS short. 'steamtank / LandMonitor' can also have short smokestack that doesn't obstruct ballistics.

The C.S.S. Virginia was actually first in action when it steamed north and sunk the U.S.S Cumberland and U.S.S. Congress Mar. 8-9, 1862, however the Virginia/Merrimac was also technically a wooden ship, covered with iron, where the Monitor was all-iron. Either way the battle was a slugfest, neither being able to sink the other. The Confederates packed it full of dynamite and scuttled her rather than let her be captured.

Size comparison

Trains on Vik's mind eh? he will get it.

well....
and here my latest works...:

the passengers compartment
with added widow panes, and the canopies of the ends are after a suggestion by londe dirty dog... made form pingpong ball and very thin stripes of PC... still some rivets needed and then I need to figure out a way to connect all the parts... some hook system..... hhmmmmm



and the engine...

as you see...hot rod style I went for ... and indeed for a sec today I marvelled how it would look with tank treads... but the coach wheels are the look I want to work with some more... a big wheel option wasn´t possible as I currently can´t get a hold on bigger and still matching wheels...





well I hope you´ll like...and don´t hold back any ideas you have for adding!!!


cheers, vik


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 shasolenzabi wrote:
Trains on Vik's mind eh? he will get it.

thanks for the confidence!!!^^

Looking amazing sir.

thank you! ^^

Nice work mate and turned out better than I thought you really pulled it off and I knew you must have a few knocking around still

Also I am holding judgment on the steam stacks at the moment maybe to see it progress a little more, I will be honest as I have 2 concerns with them : 1 they seem to be crossing over which seems a little messy I think they would look better if one ran above the other rather than over hanging. 2 the size of the tubing have you got anything slightly thinner, that way you could do 3 stacks running inline just a thought

O yes they can't produce that train as a kit if you look it has pipes and parts of the boiler/tank from the chemical plant terrain kit on it along with GW tank wheels, don't think it would take long for the lawyers to come calling

One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.

One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.

Well I think the point is you have to decide if the look suggests pulling power or velocity. The blocky basic design cries pulling power to me, not velocity, while the slim hot-rod exhausts look like speed. Maybe look out for tractorpulling machines, not for drag-race hot rods to find a suitable arrangement with your exhausts?



Also to look convincing as a land train you need to modify the exle configuration. Your six-wheeler is definitely designed for rails. It needs to look like you could navigate it - in other words like you can turn the first axle. At least move it more forward, and make it look like it is separated from the main frame. Also to enhance the look of power,you might consider make the four hind wheels look bulkier, surround them with a broad iron band with profile on it. See what I mean?

But I totally dig your idea of a six-wheeled land train locomotion, and as usual your build will be fantastically hilarious in the end!

The "van" looks awesome!

Somehow this thread lacks (or I just missed) the most prominent "train" in modern fiction

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

well....
and here my latest works...:

the passengers compartment
with added widow panes, and the canopies of the ends are after a suggestion by londe dirty dog... made form pingpong ball and very thin stripes of PC... still some rivets needed and then I need to figure out a way to connect all the parts... some hook system..... hhmmmmm



and the engine...

as you see...hot rod style I went for ... and indeed for a sec today I marvelled how it would look with tank treads... but the coach wheels are the look I want to work with some more... a big wheel option wasn´t possible as I currently can´t get a hold on bigger and still matching wheels...





well I hope you´ll like...and don´t hold back any ideas you have for adding!!!


cheers, vik


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 shasolenzabi wrote:
Trains on Vik's mind eh? he will get it.

thanks for the confidence!!!^^

This is 1840 era equipment.

Nice!! Now for many rivets, and lots of pipes...PIIIPES!

The train is coming along well. A nice bolstering of rivets. Keep traveling in style Vik.

Looking really smart, matey. Love it.

lone dirty dog wrote:Nice work mate and turned out better than I thought you really pulled it off and I knew you must have a few knocking around still

Also I am holding judgment on the steam stacks at the moment maybe to see it progress a little more, I will be honest as I have 2 concerns with them : 1 they seem to be crossing over which seems a little messy I think they would look better if one ran above the other rather than over hanging. 2 the size of the tubing have you got anything slightly thinner, that way you could do 3 stacks running inline just a thought

O yes they can't produce that train as a kit if you look it has pipes and parts of the boiler/tank from the chemical plant terrain kit on it along with GW tank wheels, don't think it would take long for the lawyers to come calling

ah I see... yeah... I recognized these pipes but haven´t recognised the track wheels...
and you are right of courser about the pipes....that´s why I have RIPPED them off^^...instantly today morning after reading this... I still had a bit of free time before work...see below what has become of the train now...

Anvildude wrote:One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.

would like to get that bit a bit better explained as I don´t get you fully here...and I think you´re onto something there...

Hruotland wrote:

One thing you might want to look at is how everything flows in the model. Right now, it's looking a little disjointed between the smooth curve of the boiler, the sweep back of the cowcatcher (that's what the little ram thing on the front is called, by the way) and the slightly aggressive swoop forwards of some of the other parts.

Well I think the point is you have to decide if the look suggests pulling power or velocity. The blocky basic design cries pulling power to me, not velocity, while the slim hot-rod exhausts look like speed. Maybe look out for tractorpulling machines, not for drag-race hot rods to find a suitable arrangement with your exhausts?



Also to look convincing as a land train you need to modify the exle configuration. Your six-wheeler is definitely designed for rails. It needs to look like you could navigate it - in other words like you can turn the first axle. At least move it more forward, and make it look like it is separated from the main frame. Also to enhance the look of power,you might consider make the four hind wheels look bulkier, surround them with a broad iron band with profile on it. See what I mean?

But I totally dig your idea of a six-wheeled land train locomotion, and as usual your build will be fantastically hilarious in the end!

hmm...good point... it is not really built for velocity... so pulling... just like your average train... it is also a four axle engine... but I will not be able to fix the wheel look as the axles I don´t really like to change the positioning here as I have drilled the holes from side to side and changing something here would probably endanger the structure...
tell me how you are now standing to the new pipes...

storag wrote:The "van" looks awesome!

Somehow this thread lacks (or I just missed) the most prominent "train" in modern fiction

funny how this train of the doc yet never has shown up... but be sure it is "floating around my head the whole time nevertheless!!!

Lone Cat wrote:

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

This is 1840 era equipment.

had to look it up... and Queen Victoria ruled for quite some time which makes it a perfect hit as your stated time falls directly into her ruling time

dsteingass wrote:Nice!! Now for many rivets, and lots of pipes...PIIIPES!

Spoiler:

cool... I never heard the true voice of cosby...
and probably would have felt the same in that car

cormadepanda wrote:The train is coming along well. A nice bolstering of rivets. Keep traveling in style Vik.

...hope it is still achieved after the recent changes...

inmygravenimage wrote:Looking really smart, matey. Love it.

thanks mate!

well shop smart...shop at S-mart^^

after LDD´s remark and musings about the pipe arrangement...I had to change the setup...

this is what it looks now...:






what do you say? cheers, vik

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to make me some rivets!

Awesome stuff, working my way through this thread.

Hey, should DOOM be brought into the League? After all, he's a rivetting gent himself.

 Theophony wrote:
Not to derail the train , but...........Doooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Vik is a founding member of the -=][_,=- and has the ONLY veto vote.

 dsteingass wrote:
Vik is a founding member of the -=][_,=- and has the ONLY veto vote.

That was to answer Anvildude btw

DOOOOM!

If that is Vik in that pose, thats just before he falls of the end tripping on his cape!!

That's not Vik, that's a cheap impostor. Proof: only nine rivets to see.

Ahh, but the tunic is hiding a mighty rivet-gun

That's a Von Doom. Vik is a Von Domm. Von Domms curb stomp Von Dooms. True. Also, they come before Von Dooms, alphabetically speaking

inmygravenimage wrote:That is a seriously impressive bridge mate. Kudos indeed!

thanks mate! it needs to be... have ye seen the stuff of all the other chaps?... sheesh...

monkeytroll wrote:The panel and rivet look works a treat, great work Vik

I think I am currently done with the panelled look now... just to add rivets^^

lone dirty dog wrote:Great job on the new update and loving the embossed reversed rivets

well I thought as I wanted to have metal plating on the actual driveway it needed to have sunken in rivets for a convincing look...

Dr H wrote:Good work on the bridge.

Look forward to seeing what you do with the bathroom items. What do you think of them now you have then in your hand?

it´s very high on my agenda... very high...!^^ as for the quality top notch and they feel very smooth to the hand... assembly will be a pleasure... but I fear the sink and its wheels^^

Camkierhi wrote:Those riveted sheets look fantastic.

thank you sir!

shasolenzabi wrote:Silence due to intense rivet works!

haha ! ...well... actually school work and family life still....

cormadepanda wrote:Excellent job Vik. Nice good angles and all.

thanks matey!

Hruotland wrote:yeah, that bridge looks very convincing. - But I fear you will have difficulties in bringing the train and bridge together, because of the extreme ramps. I have a feeling you wont be able to place the train on it while cobbled together...

ach...me bleeding aching heart... you put the finger straight on the shameful spot... you are of course right... not even the steam engine will be able to cross the bridge... the wheels will never touch the bridges ramp as the first wheel is too far behind so that it will never be able to drive upwards...sadly... so another vehicle is needed now... I am still holding on to the bridge... but I think this one needs a tracked vehicle to be able to drive over...well... plans are being made but I am most thankful for telling me the truth mate!

M0rdain wrote:Maybe its also a skimmer so can take the bridge with ease?

well... I've tested it and it wont do... but fear not the steamengine wont be for naught... it will be used for something else then...

Theophony wrote:Really nice work, love the bridge and the inverted rivets

thanks mate!!!

neil101 wrote:Well Vik its been a good while hasn't it .. Really liking your paneling and inverted rivets technique - the train looks fabulous by the way .. you really have become expert at scratch building mate .. great to see.

indeed, matey, blimey, it has again been ages ... and thanks mate!

Theophony wrote:Not to derail the train , but...........Doooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Moving parts FTW!

Your cutting mat has a frame?

We do miss you terribly.

Bridge is looking amazing, working mechanism is awesome beyond awesome. Fantastic stuff dude.

Now 10,000 rivets and a lick of paint and your golden!

Thats one nice looking bridge I also noticed the framed cutting map good idea that shame about the train issue for crossing the bridge mind O well gives you an excuse to build something else to cross it

Yeah..Vik's geniusness built that frame for his cutting matt to give him a nice square edge to work from!

Dave got it! Helps me to stay in line

Cool project Vik!

Marvel-ous piece of engineering old boy.

Wow moving parts and rivets, i'm close to nerdgasm. Pretty dam awesome.

Well maaaaybe there is a way to bring the bridge and land train together nevertheless! Think of a diorama: the bridge, in front of it the train, idle engine puffing,behind the train something like a hay cart with oxen, one gentlemen with a penny-farthing and a squad of her empress' finest loosing their temper, on the bridge maybe another oxen cart that cannot turn, on the river some chute wich cannot pass the closed bridge... and in front of the land train standing: the engineer, the navigator, the conductor and some passenger of note in a heated discussion over a map...

appendix:

weeeeell, as associating goes, there I got a realistic idea. if you just want to make another vehicle: a steam-powered penny-farthing?is s

another appendix: just got curious. what did I find:


steam-powered Star-velo, modified by Lucius Day Copeland(from Phoenix/Arizona, who also built the well known Phaeton Steam Tricycle car), presented at the Maricopa County Fair in 1884... reality is the most fantastic setting ever.

Good progress Vik.

What have you got planned for going under the bridge that requires it to raise up (a train, for instance )?

What about the train is going under the bridge? !!

How about that bridge going over a railway bridge with the train on?

All on an aquaduct obviously.....

Ah but the water running over a waterfall that is falling on the swing bridge, like one of those Escher pictures, think thats the guy anyways.

Bridge looks fantastic Vik, and as always I'm sure it will be a riveted masterpiece when finished

Once again, you've shown me another solution to something I've been thinking about with the Stormwolf that I'm working on.

Nice job!

That design of bridge strikes me as familiar,,,,,,oh yeah! the canal barge draw bridges from Holland! nice use of the concept, well executed Vik!

hey mates...sorry again for the long silence...again... but I have been busy ...busy in hobby terms... I am reaching the finishing line in terms of construction...and the below following posts of all you made quite some impression in my most recent works...but more to that after the replies...

Red Harvest wrote:Moving parts FTW!

Your cutting mat has a frame?

yeah... I need to have a USP for the leagues comp entry...non? ...and indeed, I framed my cutting mat as I am the king of noobs when it comes down to straight cuts... just measuring doesn´t cut it (pun intended... ) so I have a range of special self made rulers for almost every size I need... 1cm,1.5cm, 2cm, 3cm and so on... it really makes building simple boxy stuff way easier and keeps everything at right angles way reliable than I would otherwise be able to make...

Camkierhi wrote:We do miss you terribly.

Bridge is looking amazing, working mechanism is awesome beyond awesome. Fantastic stuff dude.

Now 10,000 rivets and a lick of paint and your golden!

I am in the process of adding the asked for thousands of rivets... and thanks mate for the heart warming comment...I am way too much of a lurker these past weeks....

lone dirty dog wrote:Thats one nice looking bridge I also noticed the framed cutting map good idea that shame about the train issue for crossing the bridge mind O well gives you an excuse to build something else to cross it

exactly... done exactly this...^^...and riveted it like mad too^^...thanks mate... and as mentioned above... the frame is what keeps me working at right angles at all...

dsteingass wrote:Yeah..Vik's geniusness built that frame for his cutting matt to give him a nice square edge to work from!

I cannot recommend it enough to everyone... the lil setup didn´t cost me a tenner at all... but is essential my best tool...

Manus wrote:Cool project Vik!

thanks mate!

monkeytroll wrote:Marvel-ous piece of engineering old boy.

well....the bridge is currently under heavy riveting... no pics here but believe me it is now fully movable and functioning as I envisioned it... I am actually a little bit proud about it

M0rdain wrote:Wow moving parts and rivets, i'm close to nerdgasm. Pretty dam awesome.

hold your breath...^^... soon I will show the bridge in completeness^^...

Hruotland wrote:Well maaaaybe there is a way to bring the bridge and land train together nevertheless! Think of a diorama: the bridge, in front of it the train, idle engine puffing,behind the train something like a hay cart with oxen, one gentlemen with a penny-farthing and a squad of her empress' finest loosing their temper, on the bridge maybe another oxen cart that cannot turn, on the river some chute wich cannot pass the closed bridge... and in front of the land train standing: the engineer, the navigator, the conductor and some passenger of note in a heated discussion over a map...

appendix:

weeeeell, as associating goes, there I got a realistic idea. if you just want to make another vehicle: a steam-powered penny-farthing?is s

another appendix: just got curious. what did I find:


steam-powered Star-velo, modified by Lucius Day Copeland(from Phoenix/Arizona, who also built the well known Phaeton Steam Tricycle car), presented at the Maricopa County Fair in 1884... reality is the most fantastic setting ever.

you´re sooooooo close to my own actual vision of this piece.... although you´re still not in the knowing of all the parts/ participants...but I bet you´ll like it...
as for your ideas... hmmmm....I like these quite a lot!!!!... a penny- farthing... now that would be a cool and a tad smaller project... I need to do some research about this...
and again... thanks for these cool and helpful and distracting pics

Dr H wrote:Good progress Vik.

What have you got planned for going under the bridge that requires it to raise up (a train, for instance )?

you´ll have to wait and see I'm afraid.......that is what will be the joke part of the entry... and for my stuff it needs to have some kind of comic relief...every time

Camkierhi wrote:What about the train is going under the bridge? !!

hehe^^...well... the train won´t stay forgotten for long... but is on hold... for now....

monkeytroll wrote:How about that bridge going over a railway bridge with the train on?

All on an aquaduct obviously.....

well...if I would have half a year still of competition time left... we could talk about it.....

Camkierhi wrote:Ah but the water running over a waterfall that is falling on the swing bridge, like one of those Escher pictures, think thats the guy anyways.

er...I am not sure if I have a ruler that would make me able to build Escher like stuff.......maybe with a curved blade?....

hk1x1 wrote:Bridge looks fantastic Vik, and as always I'm sure it will be a riveted masterpiece when finished

if I can manage it... you might be able to se the finished riveted bridge in all it´s glory... I am currently even thinking about colorschemes even now

mars2024 wrote:Once again, you've shown me another solution to something I've been thinking about with the Stormwolf that I'm working on.

Nice job!

COOOL!... well I need to get my backlog tackeld it seems........ so much cool stuff that I still haven´t seen....

shasolenzabi wrote:That design of bridge strikes me as familiar,,,,,,oh yeah! the canal barge draw bridges from Holland! nice use of the concept, well executed Vik!

indeed... that style of bridges had a strong influence ....! thanks mate!


sooooo.... I've mentioned that the bridge needs something lese to be able to cross it.... well here it comes...how about a small steam tank?....what do you say to this:





????....hope you´ll like... at least a tracked vehicle will be able to climb the rather steep bridge....


cheers, vik

Away for ever and suddenly here's a beautiful steam tank, just amazing Vik, looks brilliant!

thanks mate... it is an odd time... I am not even working that much... but after a day at school I am actually just able to hold my weight in the family currently and then being just a couch potato... well... my oldest was on a trip the last week and to be able to get him back I had a free day on Friday so I started with the tank... and well... couple of days later... that tank is now finished... and I wanted to present if to you all done...well...built at least^^...

Dam that was quick I don't know how your doing this of late but you just keep churning out the PC models nice tank and like the Ping turrets always look great and it will have no problem with the bridge not with those tracks.

What did you use for the chimney section

Hey after your cool little grot tank you got me to actually start building one of my own almost complete as well .......... Almost

As a judge I can't possibly pass comment... but good job Vik.

Drawbridge looks really cool so far. Always love your tanks.

The bridge and the steam powered tank! awesome work Vik! you never cease to amaze!

Still here. Enjoying the show. Is it "The Little Engine That Could"?

Edited 'cuz punctuation is hard :(

The tank reminds me of a baby Land Raider.

That Bridge makes me want to build some terrain that requires me to build a bridge

I love how your idea of random little details is other people's idea of a major project nice tanky.

Yeah also like the tank, reminds me somehow of french Renault FT17.

And things like that your workshop just spits out when needed... not bad, not bad! When will you build a steamtank in 1:1?

 Hruotland wrote:
Yeah also like the tank, reminds me somehow of french Renault FT17.

Why? Because it speaks in this Outrageous accent?

Fantastic work Vik! I really admire the last minute ingenuity!

Why? Because it speaks in this Outrageous accent?

Because of the overall proportions, the small dimensions, then there is this relative high rising cockpit btw, turret, of course the old-fashioned uncovered tracks (not to speak of rivets)... and this unique tension regulator on the side of the tracks looks to me a bit like a part of a steam engine gear.

Well, Vik did make that last tank spur of the moment and that was brilliant!

Hello boys and gals!

again I have been away way too long... and awfully quiet too... but I have been not lazy... mind you....definitely not!
due to nerfests new painting and modelling competition which is this time themed for sin city...I have had a bad case of inspiration hit me...

so I made this fella here... to battle amongst the heavy hitters in this comp... I am sure I can get at least my own nose bloody^^...

here comes...Dwight McCarthy... I have heard he is staring in the new movie with a different face... but I stuck to the old one, thank you very much ...clive owen is much cooler...
also... I am rather pleased with my progress of the bridge and all its "parts"... but more to this later this week...















also....this is how it all started...:

parts




primed...


base under construction...


and together with his pals on the trophy shelf^^

inmygravenimage wrote:I love how your idea of random little details is other people's idea of a major project nice tanky.

that´s got to be one of the sweetest compliments I have yet gotten....thank you very much good sir!!!

Hruotland wrote:Yeah also like the tank, reminds me somehow of french Renault FT17.

And things like that your workshop just spits out when needed... not bad, not bad! When will you build a steamtank in 1:1?

funny how I often fall in love with non german tanks... somehow very few german ones ever made it to my favourite list... the Renault one sure is on it... even if its shape more calls out for a grot to be sitting inside than a man... which is also saying something for RL...that is a rather small one...

dsteingass wrote:

 Hruotland wrote:
Yeah also like the tank, reminds me somehow of french Renault FT17.

Why? Because it speaks in this Outrageous accent?

Fantastic work Vik! I really admire the last minute ingenuity!

thanks mate.. and...*snigger*

adamsouza wrote:The tank reminds me of a baby Land Raider.

That Bridge makes me want to build some terrain that requires me to build a bridge

I see where you´re coming from...^^ the track shape of a mark V and the landraider are due to its rhombic shape my favourite... I need to do a tadpole soonish...^^

Warboss_Waaazag wrote:Drawbridge looks really cool so far. Always love your tanks.

...many thank you´s in return for that nice compliment mister!

Dr H wrote:As a judge I can't possibly pass comment... but good job Vik.

I take your comment as it is probably meant...you need to step away more often from being a judge...your input is needed quite often and you can´t add it due to cross purposes...

shasolenzabi wrote:Well, Vik did make that last tank spur of the moment and that was brilliant!

thanks matey! hope you´ll like it once it is fully painted...(I hope to achieve that tonight...)

Hruotland wrote:

Why? Because it speaks in this Outrageous accent?

Because of the overall proportions, the small dimensions, then there is this relative high rising cockpit btw, turret, of course the old-fashioned uncovered tracks (not to speak of rivets)... and this unique tension regulator on the side of the tracks looks to me a bit like a part of a steam engine gear.

the open track mechanics is still something I often try to avoid... yet it always looks soooo cool... I need to bite the bullet soon....argh^^

well...that´s from me...for now...

cheers, vik

Wow! That's fething awesome Vik! The Red Chucks and white face along with the dramatic pose really Kill it!

Awesome work, totally love the trainers, bang on, whole piece really works.

Nice to see you are around, even if we miss your wonderful banter.

See you bring Dave out of hiding too! The Vik affect.

I am sorry I have recently yet again cut short on the banter... you don´t know how I miss this too... I was lurking however...and your work cam was inspiring and crippling in the same way ... but one thing this showed me is that monochrome can be done by me... (wasn´t even thinking it wouldn´t work with you for instance for one sec )

my wife liked the cons the most too... ^^

at dave... you wouldn´t believe me how feverish I have searched for the head... even tho I still had to do GS on it too... I remembered it but didn´t knew where it was... so I had to sieve a ton of bitz... usually my stuff is organized and sorted... so a full sorting box of different heads... but I found it finally in a big unsorted box full of bitz... well... always fun to play with bitz... but if you want to stay focused... bummer...

At least your heads are in one box! I need a weeks vacation just to sort out my bitz

werrlll... it started as a good sorted collection... but since I try to get bitz boxes via ebay from time to time...chaos rears its ugly head...(pun intended...^^)

Dam as I mentioned on the Nerdfest thread nice work indeed you and Cam are my favourites to win, I liked the snow effect of J-paint but did not really get the sin vibe with the mini as I did with you and cams.

Top job wish I could have got mine done in time but hey when do I ever finish

As to the head storage issue get these work a charm

Nice how Vik made the converses be the color draw on Dwight

I really love the streetlight. It subtle and works a treat. It's great also that the grey scale has given you more confidence - so now, more! Cool cons, too

 Viktor von Domm wrote:
I take your comment as it is probably meant...you need to step away more often from being a judge...your input is needed quite often and you can´t add it due to cross purposes...

Well, I've only been a judge twice... it's just that it's been on the last two competitions... I can still comment on technical matters, even as a judge, as those sort of comments help everyone (and I try to add those sort of comments on the competition thread so that everyone sees it). I just can't say whether what you are doing is a good idea or not (layout, colours, etc...).

As for the Nerdcademy piece, as a fellow competitor, I can comment. Good job.

You seem to have pushed yourself with the painting and done a good job of it, so keep going with that.
Only criticism I can see at the moment is that he doesn't really seem to be holding the gun in his right hand quite right.

Good job on filling in the coat also.

 Dr H wrote:

Only criticism I can see at the moment is that he doesn't really seem to be holding the gun in his right hand quite right.

Ahh but neither does Dwight!


What I want to know, is how does he keep those Chucks so clean in all that rain and city dirt?

Easily because he gets a new pair every shoot

at LDD...well... funny thing...I have a sorting box that reminds me a lot of your pic... full of different and extremely sorted heads...just due to hoarding stuff gets not sorted into the box as often as it should be... talk about clever plans and so on

at Dr. H werrrlll... I wasn´t too chuffed about the bolt pistols to begin with... then the cadian gunner arms aren´t also the best to play with... in the end it went soso... so you´re probably right about the weird pose...and dave is too... but the judges have to decide^^

at shaso... when I did some research for this comp clive owen was my instant inspiration... so the red shoes was a must... besides...he´s probably this way the manliest interpretation of Dorothy around the world wide web

at graven... thanks for the compliment about the grey scale...it is something I should invest some time more too... there is some interesting potential in this kind of painting... (the saving on different hues of paint is only one...)

well... in other news... since the nerdfest comp is over... now is the time to wrap things up with the league of extra ordinary riveteers terrain competition...
it was about roads... if ye lot remember... and I made a lifting bridge for it... since we are not supposed to show our final pics in the comps thread... well I am still allowed to show´em here......

which is now happening:

this is the final piece...(es)...

complete shot...


as you see this is a small () scene ...a Victorian steampunk tank is trying to cross the lifting bridge over a small river...
but suddenly a tall and lanky looking rusty robot aka a the steampunk equivalent of a bridge troll is having issues with that intention of the tanks driver...

here come more detailed shots...:



and then some detail shots of the troll robot and the tank...:
tank


and the robot...(internet cookie for the fella who can tell what toy got converted for this model^^)
(mind you...there is are yet no WIP uploaded of this whole project...well not that many... but none of the robot...had to keep it a secret^^...)

well...here is hoping it will help me all in all to establish a good footing in the comp again...

cheers, vik

Nice work Vik The working bridge is great, and I really like the green you used on the plates - really suits a work of civil engineering.

The tankette looks brilliant, you keep producing these great looking vehicles with great use of 'junk', lovely stuff.

And what a nice suprise the troll-bot is Excellent work there, really, really like that Works extremely well as a steampunk troll

Looking amazing my friend, amazing.

Love the bridge, the steel work is looking fabulous. And a working mechanism is awesome. The "Troll" is just fantastic, a proper "Robot" perchance. And to top it off we are treated to a very impressive Vik special Steam tank.

Good luck in the competition my friend, it's pretty tough, but your right in there bud, awesome work.

Well you excelled here Vik and where to start ............. I guess the bridge first and what more can I say than Riveting and it works which is even cooler

The thing I like about the steam tank is the simplicity to its design and regalness, it seems to have been built to provide a specific purpose but clothed in a regal scheme.

Now that robot troll is a nice touch especially the hammer, now it kind of reminds me of 2 things 1 Robots the CGI animation movie or the Iron Giant which or it could be and probably is something completely different.

A steampunkrobobridgetroll... I never know, should I envy or pity you for your mind, Vik? You were right, this is really something I totally dig! Listen closely, all your competitioners: doom DOOM DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!

Nicely done. I especially like the retro robot. The head looks familair but I can't place from where.

It's the fact that it works...

Very nicely done! so many good road pieces to vote on

steamtroll punk for the win . Great work as always vik. We miss you around here, but you keep popping back up with shear awesome when you get time. Love the idea, now you just need to do the rest of the fairie tales in steampunk fashion for other board sections. You can even have a yellow brick road intersect this road further down the line

Rivetey goodness. The fact that the bridge actually lifts is great. And I love the troll-bot.

That's some fantastic work Vik! Love all the rivets. This must be a record even for the master!

Yah, Steampunk troll is a brilliant touch. Now that the LoER is over, I can take the muzzle off.

I cannot wait to see what you come up with for LoER12. There was the mimic in LoER10, the Steampunk troll in LoER11...

Well done Vik the bridge looks fantastic, and the Steampunk troll underneath is a touch of genius .

thanks you my friends for all that high praise...even if it was again not enough to have to judges smile on my behalf...well... one comp down...(make that two...as the nerdy one I also didn´t win...:( )

but well... one thing ends and another thing starts...namely the 12th leagues terrain competition... this time hold by a true crazy and creative mind: Monkeytroll...and his theme for this round is walls... the title says: "wall me up/ fence me in..."... well... for now I have decided to choose for the former... and I have begun to build some walls...







carved foam, round corners have a cardboard centre, the roof of the wall sections will have a metal sheeting that will be covered in verdigris...
on the pics you can see, the whole structure is already wide and spacy enough to hold a rhino inside...as the title of the comp reads "walled me up/ fence me in..." I think the centre needs a fitting eye catcher...we´ll see about that...

hope you´ll like...(I am also thinking of making a second more modern looking wall/fence terrain set as I think you can never have too much of these kind of terrain pieces in your collection...

cheers, vik

Looks beautiful Vik, Awesome start.

Maybe you could make more sections for this wall system that can be swapped out, do some damaged sections maybe! Could be swapped out in game for when they are blown up in game?

I have thought about such an idea... it would allow to make for a bigger wall altogether and also to have such variety too... hmmm....

That certainly brick-works for me!

Thats really impressive Vik if you ever do any more corners can you do a step by step as that is really amazing work the detail of brick is nice with a dash of paint it will really pop out

Nice work on the wall, Vik.

Seeing that tank inside makes me think that you could do with a larger entrance option. But then some broken wall sections would work just as well.

Having found a clear spot with excellent fields of view Tech-Sergeant Godberry set the machine spirits to overwatch and joined his brethren for a few hours down-time in the back of their trusty rhino. Upon popping the hatch in the morning he was astonished to find they had been enclosed by a structture of bricks and mortar...
"Command, this is Rhino 6. Were you aware that we were encamping in Doozer territory?"

Your off to a great start, cant wait to see where this goes

The doorway is crying for two beefeaters flanking it. Behind the walls have been torn down particularly by artillery, some astartes have driven their apc throug the gape and are now taking cover behind the bricks before they storm on, shells convert more bricks into shrapnell, but those two sturdy sentries have order to guard the entrance to her majesty's appleyard, and by jove, they are taking their order seriously!

Great brick-work start, waiting to see where go go from here.

I don't think that rhino will ever fit through that doorway!

Looks great. You're casting those, right?

VIK! where'd ya go!?

Indeed, Dakka is NOT DAKKA without you sir.

He is in my basement but don't tell him

 lone dirty dog wrote:
He is in my basement but don't tell him

Only part of him there, I got the other half, but I thought we weren't telling anybody

Let's hope they don't ask about Dave next

 Theophony wrote:

 lone dirty dog wrote:
He is in my basement but don't tell him

Only part of home there, I got the other half, but I thought we weren't telling anybody

Let's hope they don't ask about Dave next

SSSSHHHHHH I think they might be listening

I hope you are feeding them well*... and none of this, "it puts the lotion on its skin" silliness either.

*And proper German foods too. Lots of Bratwurst, Eierkuchen, Kartoffelpuffer, and of course, Pfannkuchen (Ich bin ein Berliner, ja?) and plenty of Weihenstephaner beer.

Vik mentioned elsewhere that he is getting hammered in RL. But a winter break/recess ought to be coming soon. German schools permit such things? I have no idea.

They don't need feeding they exist on plastic crack only, plenty of PC and miniatures they are fine trust me

...looks like a good opportunity to have the mice dance on the table, while the cat is away... let's degenerate this thread with something SHOCKING, something OBSCENE, something only to be mentioned whispering behind cupped hands... with a swift look if a MOD might come around with lock/bann, cause this place is no longer acceptable...

lets... post... pics about...

Hmm an autoflux welder eh?

or dat be a mig?

 Hruotland wrote:
...looks like a good opportunity to have the mice dance on the table, while the cat is away... let's degenerate this thread with something SHOCKING, something OBSCENE, something only to be mentioned whispering behind cupped hands... with a swift look if a MOD might come around with lock/bann, cause this place is no longer acceptable...

lets... post... pics about...

Spoiler:

WELDING!

Such Heresy!

Dats an automated Mig surely. Now a nice Tig shot would be good.

 Camkierhi wrote:
Dats an automated Mig surely. Now a nice Tig shot would be good.

I agree Tig is best

Here we go.

Welding bro is not blasphemy, we must know our enemy , it's practicing the dark arts that is looked poorly upon.

Well, I don't want to alarm anyone, but I saw this recently.

Like any fool can't melt two things and stick them together. Sheesh.

ZING!

Ahh damn it - I looked directly at the welding and now I'm blind...

Welding...bah..amateur stuff.

We must adhere to and uphold the proper and right uses of the sacred and holy rivet! All else will end in chaos and anarchy!

Hey Vik has been around, he has uploaded images to his gallery:



If he has been too busy to post about his latest project, well we can let him know how awesome it is anyway!

Vik that brick work (pressed in) and the stone work around the tower is awesome, when you have time, I'd love to hear how you made such clean straight lines.

Vik going large .

Also nice work on the square edges. Plus the whole piece in general is just perty . Though I don't know how he's going to put tank tracks on it .

Yeah, nice tower, you seem to indeed have set "brick" on "brick", did you?
also nice champion of Khorne your seedling has crayoned. Coupla years and he'll do cover artwork for "Greed Worship" for sure.

noodles!!! I wasn´t yet too confident to show you all!

well... you caught me^^...

of course it has rivets...no welding...never...ever...

the tower is kind of an inspired follow on work after I have worked and finished the walls...for the current leagues comp...
unpainted pics of the walls... with rivtes... of course I will present to you later on...

I am currently in the middle of painting the walls and the tower... the verdigris effect tho is giving me a hard time...for unknown reasons I can´t get a good hue ...

and since we are all so cosy around the bar...I want to build some guards... standing like earlier on suggested as true beafeaters at attention... has anyone ever tried to do this? I would love to use cadian bits and suchlike as I have some spare legs and torsos for this job... but before I use the saw in a terminal way I would love to see how someone else has mastered that feat...

and thanks for your constant confidence in me and my work...mates... I hope to crawl out of this slightly dark valley soon...to fully rejoin these pages here for real...!

cheers, vik


and the pics won´t be that far away...promise!


(p.s. the tower is made from a present of cam...he sent me recently a cardboard tube of huge dimension... I used the whole tube for this build... an old lamp piece for the roof... and lots of foam cut up as stones....for the towerwalls, the buttresses and other parts got the knife and pen treatment to create the bricks...and lots of PVA... each stone on the tower was glued into place...if you mastered riveting once... glueing stones is just a mere side- obstacle^^)

And the master calls to us from beyond the far reaches of mist and time and shows us the error of our ways with this massive er.... tower.


Can't believe you Ninja'd me.

Verdigre... sponge on striking scorpion green then skink blue, add a very light sponge of copper over the top witha few washes is my method, but Noodle is a master at this.

Also Noodle could be your man for the Beefeaters, You probably want to look at some Fantasy Imperial models, Noodles Genswick troops are not a million miles from being close to it if painted gawdy red and gold.

Who let him out

That is impressive scale and detail you have become a real dab hand at this since you have been lurking behind the scenes, I like the ground section with the supports running up the sides that was an interesting design choice and looks marvelous

The lamp shade trick was a clever idea what is it made of by the way as it looks like grey plastic, most shades I have seen are really thin white placky type stuff but that looks way more sturdy

I was impressed by the walls you did and now even more so great stuff Vik and you were scared to show this

It helps to lock the door, y'know.

Great tower. The stairs are really cool. Of course we want better photos too. My first impression was that you had used a Pringles can (Pringles Potato Chips... or crisps(?) on your side of the Atlantic.) They make perfect tower bases too. Plus, potato chippy goodness. Mmmmm, all win.

The roof has a certain Christmas tree look to it. Perfect for this time of year

Who knew he could work a handle


Damn now I see a christmas tree as well

That is a mighty tower!

The Vik has been lured out of hiding , let's hope he didn't see his shadow of he'll crawl back into his lair and not come out again for weeks. although if he does he'll bring marvelous designs such as this christmas tree topped tower.

It needs lights... Or a star or an angel on top. Oooh, a windvane would be perfect, come to think of it,

How would something like that look atop the tower?

Good to see you back bro. I want a broken bell now.

I knew you were around If you are going to leave pics around for a week someone is going to find them sooner or later

looking forward to more of the walls.

My verdigris isn't that great, best tip I can give is lots of thin washes. Mix a bit of green, blue and white, in differing amounts then apply as a streaky wash showing the direction water would take flowing down with the occasional black or brown wash mostly for shadowing and grime.

I found a site with pictures of weathering bronze or copper at each stage, one week, month, year etc. I don't remember where it was but I found it pretty useful.

For guards, the old IG tank upgrade sprue had a pair of standing legs and an arm with it's hand in the air, that should be easily convertible to make it holding a lasgun to attention.

Good use of bits! I honestly couldn't tell what that roof was made from.

we'll be waiting

well mates... I am still able to use handles... even tho someone suggested replacing my fingers with knifes...

and the shadow didn´t scare me that much... also... no long shadows currently due to the low sun and the less appearance of said stellar entity...

at red harvest... oh... what a very good idea... I need to see if that is still possible... it would be a very convincing addition regarding towards the intended use of the tower...
the letters might be a tad tricky to get them right on that scale....hmmm....

at noodles...

My verdigris isn't that great

yeah right... your probably the best painter here to do verdigris effects in my humble opinion...
as for the guards... I have begun to sieve my bitz box already... I currently follow two roads... ordered my a sprue of necrons my the way so that if all else fails me I will make aitomatons for guards... but the tank commander guard is a very good start...
in the end I want to make cadian standard guards tho as I have in my mind already dioramas planned with lots of soldiers standing at attention... also marching after one another too...





at graven... a broken bell?... it is no bell tower...mind you...^^ it will be for an upcoming airship...ups... now it is out^^

at LDD... the lamp piece is actually metall...IKEA lamp like this...:


you see the piece in black that holds the bigger shade...


sooooo.... promised some wip paining pics...

first the walls... as this is the main event...



this is the setup I mostly think about... but as the pieces are fully modular setups like the following are also able to be used in game...:



and some individual shots of the walls...



and here comes the first wip painting pics of the tower...



with additional pics for details...







...
well... I have again my difficulties with the scheme for the bases... this was in all the recent comp entries my weakness...
the bricks will get a more individual colouring later on... to make it more convincing looking... I also want to add a bit of pant life to the walls... (following Dr. H´s continuous hints which I too often continuously didn´t follow...I hope this time will help me to actually achieve a spot on the first three places...)

for the guards I will hopefully get during this week to be able to present to you some wip pics...


cheers, vik (who is very glad that you are all there and still enjoying the show even if the episodes happen in a rather random style time wise )

You work as always is impecable.

Walls looking great and tower even more so.

Watching and waiting patiently as always master.

did you see the long card tube in the tower cam?... the instant I opened my package back then I knew it would either end as a tower or a new airship...
the tower now it very sturdy due to said tube... so...again...thank you matey!

also... as a sidenote... the way I did these stones on the tower I don´t recommend... I should have done them in the same size as I did all the other bricks... that will kick myself in the rear every time I will lay eyes on the tower....... tried to change it before painting... but it wouldn´t look right...learn from me^^...

I see the part you are referring to in the pic hope you did not break the lamp for that reason

Nice paint job could do with a little weathering especially being that tall, what are you doing with the window frames by the way ? over great stuff and just love the wall sections multitude of set ups possible

Bases really are not a necessity, Vik. At least not permanently attached bases. Try constructing buildings as you would vehicles, without bases. Now, a bit of ivy climbing the brickwork on both the walls and the tower... You can used yarn that has been thinly coated in PVA glue and dipped in flock for vines too.

Walls looks nice. Loving the tower. For letters, perhaps slice off the raised lettering from a pill bottle top or other source? ( I could post a pic or two of what I mean if needed.)

That tower and those walls are looking great Vik .

Good work on the tower, Vik. The brickwork is nice and the roof is a great use of the part.

Yeah, have a think about how dirt, rubbish and plant-life will accumulate about the base of the tower.
At least I can keep going on about it this time and not have to wait until the judging.

Aaaaaaatten shuuuuuun!!!!

I think I will leave this here for every ones personal amusment...:


of course there will be soon lots of GS used on that guarding guardsman...

question tho... if I would have two guarding guardsmen flanking the portal of the tower or a gate... would the lasguns be on opposite shoulders or be on the same shoulder , what does the military code say to this guarding problem?... this needs to be answered and I need to have this answered by the knowing friends of mine maybe how done service and so on!... thanks in advance...





cheers, vik

Good to see you out there mucker! And that's a lovely, lovely pose there.

if this works out... I want to make more of these... maybe I find a way to use the dark arts even to have my own supply for a whole platoon standing at attention... next step would be marching legs...ach... a man needs to be able to dream...

I am here... enjoying the man flu^^...

Not sure what regulations are, but I'd imagine they are all holding the rifle on the same side of their body like when they are drilling. I'd also think it would really only be the close combat weapons that would be held towards the doorway side if the weapons were large enough to block the entrance, like halberds.

Sweet work on his posing by the way .

Cast him, surely?

I will hopefully try to cast a spell for this one....

and thanks theo... I think your reasoning is very sound...the halberds

hopefully the GS gods are with me^^

The side where guards hold their weapon is not depending on which side they are standing, Both guards will have their arms on the same side. If you look up pictcures of the Swiss Guard you will recognize they always hold their halberd in the right hand, regardless where they are positioned. (couldn't find a pic with two guards bearing halberds flanking an entrance, sorry) The side your weapon is positioned is solely a question of weapon drill. Originally these stances were trained in order to 1) make thinking while handling your weapon under attack superfluous, and 2) coordinate the handling of then-quite long pikes or muskets in a cordon, so nobody would clash their polearms or gunbarrels together. If a doorguard were to take action, it would be desatrous to have to think flipside.
Blocking an entrance with crossed polearms is just showing-off btw. If you had to guard a door with a halberd in ernest, you would lever the polearm foward to more easily reach out with levelled halberd in both hands and keep the intruder at bay on tip, if he further advances. not hold your weapon sideways so the intruder can just tackle you, making the polearm useless.
So why are there pictures of english guards with their gun on different sides? and even more strange, while standing in a guardhouse, alone? This is just an intelligent guess, but maybe they are left-handed?

have to admit my own experience is only with 30years war drill reenactment. Would be nice to hear what is up todate now with Wachbattalion etc-

Vik! glad to see you are still with us! flu is never fun.

Like the guarding Guardsman!

you have a lot of catching up to do with the absence mister!

Glad to have you back bro!

Nice job on the cut and shunt with a little GS work should work well, as to the rifle from what I have seen they are always on the same side.

Nice work on the Guard. You mispelled "Actung" though. Perhaps add something else, something ceremonial to him?

 Red Harvest wrote:
Nice work on the Guard. You mispelled "Actung" though. Perhaps add something else, something ceremonial to him?

If spelled "A-c-h-t-u-n-g" it is correct.

Earlier on Vic stated he wanted standard field livery cadians in order to have them around in masses.
- Well, after looking at the fig once more, Vic, I think you might swap the free arm to something straight. While the arm with the flashlight looks quite convincing to me, the bent arm does not look like "attention", but like "sloppy guard having a drool in the standing-box". Do yoh have an arm with straight elbow, hand stretched with inside to the leg? Would be perfect!

Hruotland wrote:The side where guards hold their weapon is not depending on which side they are standing, Both guards will have their arms on the same side. If you look up pictcures of the Swiss Guard you will recognize they always hold their halberd in the right hand, regardless where they are positioned. (couldn't find a pic with two guards bearing halberds flanking an entrance, sorry) The side your weapon is positioned is solely a question of weapon drill. Originally these stances were trained in order to 1) make thinking while handling your weapon under attack superfluous, and 2) coordinate the handling of then-quite long pikes or muskets in a cordon, so nobody would clash their polearms or gunbarrels together. If a doorguard were to take action, it would be desatrous to have to think flipside.
Blocking an entrance with crossed polearms is just showing-off btw. If you had to guard a door with a halberd in ernest, you would lever the polearm foward to more easily reach out with levelled halberd in both hands and keep the intruder at bay on tip, if he further advances. not hold your weapon sideways so the intruder can just tackle you, making the polearm useless.
So why are there pictures of english guards with their gun on different sides? and even more strange, while standing in a guardhouse, alone? This is just an intelligent guess, but maybe they are left-handed?

have to admit my own experience is only with 30years war drill reenactment. Would be nice to hear what is up todate now with Wachbattalion etc-

very good reasoning on the drill and posing...I was thinking the same actually but as I was relying on common sense I dismissed the thought as we are talking about military stuff here
this will be taken into account for the next model ! I am already imaging lines of lines of standing to attention soldiers...*sigh*

shasolenzabi wrote:Vik! glad to see you are still with us! flu is never fun.

Like the guarding Guardsman!

you have a lot of catching up to do with the absence mister!

Glad to have you back bro!

thanks matey... I will hop to your thread in a minute... I know due to lurking a wee bit what´s waiting there for me tho^^

lone dirty dog wrote:Nice job on the cut and shunt with a little GS work should work well, as to the rifle from what I have seen they are always on the same side.

today I altered a bit the mini... I think the mark I had some flaws... the free arm as Hruotland pointed out...but I still think the wee soldier has a bit too short legs... I think I will fix them tomorrow...then GS will happen...

Red Harvest wrote:Nice work on the Guard. You mispelled "Actung" though. Perhaps add something else, something ceremonial to him?

hmmm.... ceremonial...?... I wanted to add some bayonets... wanted to use DE blades for that as they look a bit more ceremonial to me...?...and as shaso will say below... Achtung... but well... that wouldn´t really cause the right reactions on a British parade ground...

shasolenzabi wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
Nice work on the Guard. You mispelled "Actung" though. Perhaps add something else, something ceremonial to him?

If spelled "A-c-h-t-u-n-g" it is correct.

indeed^^... tho my sarge always yelled "STILL...gestanden..."....and the "gestanden" part is barely hear able...

Hruotland wrote:Earlier on Vic stated he wanted standard field livery cadians in order to have them around in masses.
- Well, after looking at the fig once more, Vic, I think you might swap the free arm to something straight. While the arm with the flashlight looks quite convincing to me, the bent arm does not look like "attention", but like "sloppy guard having a drool in the standing-box". Do yoh have an arm with straight elbow, hand stretched with inside to the leg? Would be perfect!

thank you sir! I was trying to pose the soldier in a way I remember the standing at attention from my military service days... tho I have to say we didn´t stand to attention with guns at all... only unarmed... and due to german bundeswehr military protocol there are some small differencies between british and U.S. military standards... first... you make fists next to your thighs, and the elbows are slightly bend... also the feet are pointing in different directions at a slight angle... BUT...
your point is valid, as I was aiming for british and American military procedure... and not german... thus...

"ch ch changes"^^




what do you think?... better?...it is a pointing arm of the HW team kit... but substantially altered... cut up and shaved of some bits here and there... the hand tho I kept... it is the right hand of the medics bandaging arm set...for your info...


cheers, vik

I see he has a straight attention arm now!

He looks brilliant Vik, nice job. Only thing you maybe add would be a bayonet! Got to be a pointy stick for guardin aint it!!

Latest is good and would be better for mass production, but liked the first one too.

And just to come in late on the conversation, I am sure that the shouldered arms are always on the same side. Regardless of lefty or righty. Got to do with formation manouvering I think. Imagine them Yankee boys who do spectacular stuff with bayoneted guns, one lefty and your arms off!!

thanks shaso...

and cam... LOL... yep... sarge wouldn´t want to have one of his yell-at´s to be short of a hand all of a sudden...^^

and bayonets will happen^^

I get a spelling lesson in German. Danke, herren. Never noticed that 'H' before. I saw all those 'a's strung together in your title and for a moment I thought it was a Dutch word

A bayonet would be a nice touch. I suppose how you paint him could be sufficent to distinguish him too. He looks good as is though. Nice work.

And now I am noticing how big that rifle is, maybe 160-165 cm in scale? Wow. Perfect for a ceremonial piece.

it is only the standard lasgun you get in many kits as a detail ... when you chop up a guardsman you discover a lot of the weird way GW made these... for instance the legs are not really even in length... especially if you have a wide stance as you get in some legs... and the arms... the one holding the mortar shell or the pointy arm... are way too long compared to the ones that are bend...weird... very weird... one must not ponder about the peeps sitting at the desks at GW... really...

Never expect a right and reasonable scale off the mismatch GW does, I mean the guys have 1/35 scale hands and heads fro crying out loud! and the BC on the Leman Russ is no way right scale 120mm as the old schematics indicate as a 1/35 scale 125mm cannon is dwarfed by the girth and muzzle mouth of it!

Looks like he's guarding something. Job's a good 'un.

Getting there, the arm is good now. - But I fear you should correct yet another GW misfit - look at the boots. One cuff bigger than the other, little bit "westcoast" maybe? Should be quite easy to correct. Either make the left one higher with green stuff or carve around the right leg, lowering the upper rim of the cuff and instead continuing the folds of the trouser. What do you think?

I think I will fix that with GS asap... tho this mistake we cant shove into the shoes of GW... while cutting up and reposing the right boot it became a slight bit taller... but that I think I can cope...if all fails he will afterwards look like he is due to a bit of a close quarter yelling by his sergeant at arms^^

Looking good Vik and great to see you back and at it

Thanks ruglud...

On a totally unrelated matter...

Christmas is soon upon us... The tree needs its stuffing by packages...so... The missus and were thinking to add a gaming console to the heap...but to be honest...what system should we currently choose? We do own the old Wii but even tho we have three controls and a balance board the idea was to provide the kids with the Disney infinity game... And this would be only interesting in our opinion with version 2.0... But that would need a new console...so we now are open for suggestions mateys...

Help us in our darkest hour...


Cheers, and a merry time,eh

I myself am an X-box 360 man

If you're going to be gaming yourself (and I presume you do) then I'd go PS4 - atm it's a hands down optimal choice overall. PS4 has better performance, wide game library, some awesome exclusives and a variety of other "pros". I'd call it a better investment. And that comes from an 360 fan.

Microsoft is the devil. So is Sony. Not sure which is less evil. Can I recommend no console? Perhaps a gaming rig instead? Something that can be used as a media server as well as a gaming device? Since I do not play the 'vidya games' myself, I have no idea if that is a better option.

Hmmm, IIRC German Folklore, you guys have something called a Belschnickel? (and if needed, feel free to correct the spelling ) Instead of a switch, these days he would certainly scare children by threatening to bring a Sony or Microsoft product into the house .

I think the PS4 has more utility to it as an overall media hub- though the XBawks is attempting to take that title itself- thing is, they're both rather unintuitive for the new learner.

A SteamBox might do alright depending on the game, but I'm not sure if Disney Infinity would work on it.

Honestly, if you're going for a full family gaming console, Nintendo is probably what you'll want. Their products tend to be better investments overall as well, I think- more people will continue playing games on their old Nintendo consoles than will play games on older Microsoft or Sony consoles.

I can't recommend any, all we have are WII. Old ones, just really used anymore for Netflix. PS4 looks like the better to me, just depends on budget I guess.

@red harvest: if I recall my German Folk lore correctly, I have never heard of a Belschnickel. But we are a country of ginormous local cultural differences. Myself, I am a Lower Saxon from the northern parts. Wikipedia tells me this "Belsnickel" or "Pelzmäntle"(meaning "fur coat") is stemming from the Palatine and Franconian area somewhere in the southern parts, or what we "Fish Heads" call "south of the weisswurst aequator". We do not know much about those parts. They seem to drink the wrong type of beer, sometimes even (lo and behold! wine, speak funny and are definitely not Bavarians. On the other hand, Vic is from Berlin. They also seem to drink the wrong type of beer, speak funny and are definitely not Bavarians. So maybe they have a Belsnickel there?


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well concerning the console, XBox Kinect. It is soooo much cooler not to have a controler while doing things like running, dodging, throwing things, kicking balls without holding a bone in your hand - AHEM DID I JUST WRITE THIS I DID NOT MEAN WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK NO REALLY!

Advent is heavy business for parents, we all know. Hope you have time to relax sometime along christmas, vic! I found this pic and thought you might like the inspiration...

Thats really cool. Looks like it is built on a forklift chassis?

My Grandfather mentioned the Belschnickel a few times. His Grandparents were from Lower Saxony and Westphalia. I suspect it is the Westphalian side that knew of it. The Pennsylvania Dutch here in the US-- who are of German descent (should be Pennsylvania Deutsch) also have the Belschnickel. I just think it is an amusing idea.

Never knew Germany would be so compartmentalized, but I guess it makes sense. Now about the beer, Kolsch? That's good stuff.

And Vik seems to have taken an extended leave of absense. I hope he makes it back for the contest. Or just to check in. Who else can keep those pesky welders at bay?

We do miss the master!

Excellent pic there, totally love the concept. Can almost see a couple guardsman with a stubber mounted on the top, and a Commisar stood waving get me closer! Just needs an Aquilla on the front!

I'm not so sure about the forklifter, my guess is a tandem-axle trailer chassis combined with a one-axle tractor. But whatever, definitely the best motorhome ever, and something worthy even of Yarrik himself! - - Now, about Vic, I'm sure he will will return once the holidays are over. You can't combine familylife and an internet geek presence in times like these.

Now, koelsch beer, okay I guess if you are from Cologne. But up here we like our beer - well, tasting more beer-y less lemonady, you know... plus they serve it in ridiculously small glasses. But at least it's made from barley like its hould be, not from wheat like in some forsaken corners of the republic...

That's right, Mr von Domm, I'm talking about this abomination served in YOUR city! With a shot of fruit sirup even! Man, can't you drink your beer with a shot of clear Schnapps in it like every good countryman should?

Vik may be spending time playing console games with his kids

***gasps*** "pheeewww" finally I have crawled from underneath a heap of schoollife, greasy food, gift wrappings and the ait is not longer cluttered by merry songs...."pheeww" indeedy...

but to all of you that are still within the deepest festivities ...: Murray...er...merry Christmas...!

Hruotland wrote:@red harvest: if I recall my German Folk lore correctly, I have never heard of a Belschnickel. But we are a country of ginormous local cultural differences. Myself, I am a Lower Saxon from the northern parts. Wikipedia tells me this "Belsnickel" or "Pelzmäntle"(meaning "fur coat") is stemming from the Palatine and Franconian area somewhere in the southern parts, or what we "Fish Heads" call "south of the weisswurst aequator". We do not know much about those parts. They seem to drink the wrong type of beer, sometimes even (lo and behold! wine, speak funny and are definitely not Bavarians. On the other hand, Vic is from Berlin. They also seem to drink the wrong type of beer, speak funny and are definitely not Bavarians. So maybe they have a Belsnickel there?


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well concerning the console, XBox Kinect. It is soooo much cooler not to have a controler while doing things like running, dodging, throwing things, kicking balls without holding a bone in your hand - AHEM DID I JUST WRITE THIS I DID NOT MEAN WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK NO REALLY!

LOL... well I know the "Knecht Ruprecht"... which has some strinking similarities to the belschnickel it seems... from appearance to modus operandi...as well as the tendency to be the darker side of santa...but surley we all wont want to see naughty kids hurt, eh?...... after all...been there, done that...

also... decisions have been made...and we went for a Wii U... because some friends of us also own one and the kids might thus be able to play online with them... , and we could use the old games as well... and Mrs von domm was only to be tempted to get us all this console in the end... we also got inifinity and so everything was golden... so we thought... but alas it was not... as we unwrapped our gifts and the kids were overjoyed by the stuff they got, in the end we couldn´t start the damned thing... after consulting the support we will have to replace the wretched machina...*shakes fist*... the disappointment in the eyes of my kids will have to get soothed on Saturday by someone from the store...mercy by upon that poor soul!!!

Hruotland wrote:Advent is heavy business for parents, we all know. Hope you have time to relax sometime along christmas, vic! I found this pic and thought you might like the inspiration...

I've seen that while surfing for steampunky goodness from time to time... an impressive built... and a truly interesting future project...

Red Harvest wrote:Thats really cool. Looks like it is built on a forklift chassis?

My Grandfather mentioned the Belschnickel a few times. His Grandparents were from Lower Saxony and Westphalia. I suspect it is the Westphalian side that knew of it. The Pennsylvania Dutch here in the US-- who are of German descent (should be Pennsylvania Deutsch) also have the Belschnickel. I just think it is an amusing idea.

Never knew Germany would be so compartmentalized, but I guess it makes sense. Now about the beer, Kolsch? That's good stuff.

And Vik seems to have taken an extended leave of absense. I hope he makes it back for the contest. Or just to check in. Who else can keep those pesky welders at bay?

compartmentalized... red... you don´t know the half of it... the U.S. is called the melting pot... well... Germany always was called the patchwork rug... as all the small countries and lands of misery have been sewn together by the sword...
as for Kölsch... well... we´re talking beer... not lemonade... right?... and a good beer needs a strong body... not something that only hints of body leftovers ...

Camkierhi wrote:We do miss the master!

Excellent pic there, totally love the concept. Can almost see a couple guardsman with a stubber mounted on the top, and a Commisar stood waving get me closer! Just needs an Aquilla on the front!

dunno about any master sitting here next to me...but me, myself and I have been hiding a bit.. lurking occasionally...sitting in my armchair...and looking in awe at the deeds of you lot here...

Hruotland wrote:I'm not so sure about the forklifter, my guess is a tandem-axle trailer chassis combined with a one-axle tractor. But whatever, definitely the best motorhome ever, and something worthy even of Yarrik himself! - - Now, about Vic, I'm sure he will will return once the holidays are over. You can't combine familylife and an internet geek presence in times like these.

Now, koelsch beer, okay I guess if you are from Cologne. But up here we like our beer - well, tasting more beer-y less lemonady, you know... plus they serve it in ridiculously small glasses. But at least it's made from barley like its hould be, not from wheat like in some forsaken corners of the republic...

That's right, Mr von Domm, I'm talking about this abomination served in YOUR city! With a shot of fruit sirup even! Man, can't you drink your beer with a shot of clear Schnapps in it like every good countryman should?

hey Hruotland...no need yell at me... I've only drank "Weisse" once... never did it for me... but I like Bock, and other more stout like beers... "Köstrizer" for instance... and some Czech beer too... and of course the "Guiness"... as this is a meal that can be served in a pint... that´s what I call a beer...

as for that vehicle...hmmm.... a commissar command vehicle...now there is a nice thought.... (kept for future needs^^)

shasolenzabi wrote:Vik may be spending time playing console games with his kids

wish I could old matey... wish I could... alas it is one of those long time curses... getting a RC car and no batteries as the shops only open after the weekend...
well... hopefully we´ll be with a new one on Saturday... then the games can start...


but for now... let me show you what my beloved santa got me for Christmas...:



42 new eyedropper bottled paints...brushes, and even a cute Kromlech Orc Pilot!

well... I wanted to replace my old GW paint pots for quite some time now... and this is my new chance to up my game in painting...hopefully...

and to show you that I intend to progress on that road... here is a little lick of the lolly so to speak.....a little blurry sadly... but a little WIP nevertheless...:






well... I hope you´ll like... more to these later on...

cheers, and merry merriness for all of you!!!

yours truly vik

Sad to hear about that no-show with the console, Vic! There is a retailer out there that will have to crawl on the floor on Saturday! At least to have his noggins dunked for your kids' amusement!

The part with yelling: well you drink Bock, you are atoned for everything! All is cool! Maybe I can invite you to a good barrel-drawn Herforder Red even on occasion!

well... maybe we can persuade...harangue him to give us an infinity figure for free...^^

we know Germany is THE beer country... eh?^^... thanks for the invite... I bet that´s a good one... it is funny... there are so many beers... some of the good ones you wont see anywhere else tho... as the major ones aren´t often the good ones...

Well, no console, but at least some good paints to work with!

Looks like a handy amount of gifts and paints.

Also, I return. Again because I must have all the dramatic entrances.

Nice start mate but you really need to get cracking, hey have you checked out the new bearskins Mad Robot Miniatures are releasing might be of interest to you

dramatic entrance, eh? comrade?... well... I know about that one^^...see below... and welcome back!

at shaso... now we have a fully functioning Wii U and we´re not afraid to use it daily... the avengers game is quite nice... it is soooo funny to destroy cars or chuck pedestrians into the Hudson river...

at LDD... the bearskins I actually think look weird... but the ornamental breastplates are awesome... I have recently obtained eight lizard steeds and these would make some great riders...



as for the paints... well... I started to put them to good use already... pics of proof following below... as you might possibly remember I made these small grot tanks from PC and from scratch...







and this one...:








these are so far my heaviest weathered projects ...the pics are still WIPs as everything is still pre- wash...

and also... OneManNoodles rang in the next round of the ongoing LoeR terrain building competition...
this time its about accidents... as ...well...they happen...right?...
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/629845.page#7478948

and I have mused about what to enter... I recently did my annual new years eve salvage through our neighbourhood and among a plethora of wooden sticks from firecracker rockets...I found this... a very big dome...


the idea is to make a big grot rocket... a lunar landing vehicle...kind of...

to create lastly a diorama that is related to this old classic cinematic scene:




of course with lots of small green evil weirdos all over the place...


what do you think?...

cheers, vik