Over the next month or so, you will hopefully be hearing a lot of updates form us on the Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter (starting on the morning of Thursday 13th!). However, we have some other bits and pieces going on at Mongoose that will be bearing fruit soon.

Victory at Sea is our World War II naval game (Age of Dreadnougghts covers World War I) that has been going for some years now. Finally, we are ready to bring a new range of miniatures to the game, and this is possibly our most ambitious project yet...

Our lead 3D Designer, Sandrine Thirache, has been toiling away for more than a year now on this line, in conjunction with our assembled collection of Official Naval Boffins (the ONB) who are providing plans and constantly checking and re-checking her work to make these models as accurate as possible.

Interesting Factoid: If you show Sandrine a photo of, say, the Richelieu, she can now tell you in what year that photo was taken. Much to her chagrin.



Each model is produced in 1/1800 scale, and is packed full of detail. Most ships have a resin hull and base (with sculpted wakes), with turrets and other parts provided on a metal sprue. Having been done in 3D, we have gone a step further and are producing a different model for each ship in a class, down to cruiser level. So, for example, there will not just be one model of, say, the Leander-class. You will be able to pick up different models for the Orion, Ajax, Achilles and Neptune. If that were not enough, for the true purist, we can also reflect changes to ships made during refits. So, our model of the French battleship Richelieu appears as it was in 1939. However, there are also models of the ship as it appeared in 1943 (a lot more AAA), and of its sister ship, the Jean Bart.



If that were not enough, we are also doing in-scale models of aircraft and Motor Torpedo Boats (one of our Official Naval Boffins, David Manley, has suggested we do a seperate range of the MTBs in 1/300 scale - he is quite mad, you know).



The first ships to appear will be those in the Battle of the River Plate box set, available at the end of October - Ajax, Achilles, Exeter and the Admiral Graf Spee.

Now, as I said before, this is an ambitious project, and there is no release schedule for this line - Sandrine has over 60 ships done in 3D, but that still leaves many, many more to go and while the final goal is to do pretty much everything that ever floated in World War II (!), we are not rushing to get everything out at once. They will be done when they are ready, though you should see a steady flow of ships coming out every month in 2013, covering the Royal Navy, Kreigsmarine, US Navy, Imperial Japanese Navy, Regia Marina, and Marine Nationale. Other navies, such as the Soviets, will not likely start appearing until the bottom end of 2013 at best.

You can see more examples of Sandrine's work on Planet Mongoose at http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/?p=373 and we will have pictures of painted models up on our site later this month.

That does sound rather intriguing !

I take it the rules will be included with the box set ?

 HudsonD wrote:
That does sound rather intriguing !

I take it the rules will be included with the box set ?

Rules already available!

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/victory-at-sea.html

Those I already have
My question was aimed at the 2.0 version described on the mongoose blog, is there any estimation for those ?

I've also noticed the blog mentions 1/2400th scale, while your post specifies 1/1800 for the mini line. Any reason for the largr scale ? (I'm assuming more detailed minis)

We do have a second edition of VaS in the works, but don't hold your breath as it keeps growing. We are currently looking at a big, full colour hardback, lots of prettily painted minis inside, loads of history and analysis, stats for everything... and a release date in second half of 2013 at best. Like the rest of the line, it will be ready when it is done

We were originally going to do 1/2400, but that scale already has decent support and 1/1800 allowed us to take advantage of the digital modelling to cram ever more detail onto each ship.

This game is a variation on the B5:ACTA ruleset and I played it a bit when it first hit a few years ago. B5:ACTA remains my favorite space combat game of all time, the perfect balance of naval tactics, complexity and abstraction for me. Since ACTA is really just a naval simulator at it's core it translated over to WW2 extremely well. That said, while I never felt particularly burned by Mongoose I did experience their shoddy handling of B5, Mighty Armies and SST firsthand, which puts me in more of the indiferant/wait ad see camp. Unfortunately. many of my friends are more upset and will never play anything they do ever again which greatly limits my options, even if I decide to get back in.

this is possibly our most ambitious project yet...

This does not excite me. In fact, this has me the exact OPPOSITE of excited. I've seen how Mongoose's ambitious projects pan out (ie: not well). I want Mongoose to do a small project, a realistic project that they do right and finish and then branch out from. A small project that they do well and turn into a grand project eventually. "most ambitious yet" sets off every warning signal my brain can muster. I know the game itself has been around for a while, but the official miniatures line is new, especially since there ARE so many great WW2 minis already out there.

We were originally going to do 1/2400, but that scale already has decent support and 1/1800 allowed us to take advantage of the digital modelling to cram ever more detail onto each ship.

This seals it for me. Typical mongoose. "Well, this scale is already super popular, so lets make our stuff in a NEW scale that doesn't match what everyone wants to play with. Plus, it has the added benefit of being MORE unwieldy to play with! There is simply no way this can POSSIBLY go south on us!"

This was the biggest problem with B5:ACTA, they went with bigger, more expensive ships that nobody bought because everyone used the much cheaper, readily available Fleet Action scale that actually played much better on the table than the big, unwieldy ships that bumped into each other too much. And Mongoose didn't see a dime of all those sales beyond the box set sales for any of the dozen+ players at my shop, nor any of the players I saw posting on the MGP forums using the FA scale. Star Trek resin minis? same problem, they went bigger when everyone wanted smaller. The Starline 5000 figs are really too big to play well on a hex map, they would have sold models to all the Federation Commander players in addition to their own Star Trek ACTA game.

I know that there are indeed people that like the bigger scale, but I don't know a single person locally that does, and most of the people I've encountered online prefer the smaller scales. Maybe that's completely off base and localized, but I somehow doubt it. I'm sure there's a market for it, but it just seems like you're picking an uphill fight before you even start.

The game itself is good, and is something mongoose doesn't have to pay a license for (or ever have to worry about losing), but a huge new minis line when there's so many other options out there already? Just not sure this has any legs.

 Kalamadea wrote:
I want Mongoose to do a small project, a realistic project that they do right and finish and then branch out from.

Like... The Battle of the River Plate, before expanding onwards? Already ahead of you, mate

 Kalamadea wrote:

This seals it for me. Typical mongoose. "Well, this scale is already super popular, so lets make our stuff in a NEW scale that doesn't match what everyone wants to play with. P

It is the same scale as the War at Sea range. And 1/2400 is already pretty well covered.

 Kalamadea wrote:
This was the biggest problem with B5:ACTA, they went with bigger, more expensive ships that nobody bought because everyone used the much cheaper, readily available Fleet Action scale

I am afraid that is incorrect. People used hundreds of thousands of those larger models, and they were absolutely the right decision.

 Kalamadea wrote:

I know that there are indeed people that like the bigger scale, but I don't know a single person locally that does,

Well, this is our problem; we cannot sell just to your local area, we have to look at a much wider picture. Now, because we are digitally modelling these ships we could, potentially, in the future, release them in a different scale - you never know!

Well, GHQ models pretty much rules 1/2400th with an extensive line, so I can understand why Mongoose would rather avoid competition there.
Having an interest in WW2 naval warfare, I'm going to be following this closely !

We have just started the Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter, and we have lots of exciting projects on display for Dredd fans and gamers alike.

The Judge Dredd miniatures game features a completely free to download rulebook and has been running with the support of its fans for two years now. It is a 28mm skirmish-level science fiction miniatures game based on the iconic 2000AD comic strip where players take a force or faction from Mega-City One and prepare to do battle on the streets! Full campaign rules are integrated into the game, and feature a system whereby weaker forces are never at a disadvantage – even a lowly gang of street punks can take on Judge Dredd and his cohorts if you have enough reinforcements!

You can find the fully details at;

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/judge-dredd-miniatures-game-block-war

Alright. In for $300. If I want to get the RPG stuff, I can just add extra to my existing pledge, I assume?

While some people were harshing on the models for being dated, the paint jobs on the ones in the kickstarter look top notch!

The Law Abiding Citizen: Dredd image is beautiful, the shoulder pad is beautiful.


Edit: Also good work Scipio, you have got us 10% of way to Walter all by yourself!

So..for $30 I can get a force box from the Dredd range, or I can go to the Mongoose site and spend $30 on a force box from the Dredd range?

So at that level the Kickstarter is basically free worldwide postage if you wait a month

Hm. Does Council of Judges also include the figures from the lower level figures pledges inside the boxed sets? (Law Abiding, Cadet, Street, Brit-Cit).

Obviously the Manta is completely separate.


Actually, we need a link to some hi-res pics of exactly what's in those boxes. The ones on the website need people to chase them down scattered across several categories, and are also small and horrid.

Charax wrote:
So..for $30 I can get a force box from the Dredd range, or I can go to the Mongoose site and spend $30 on a force box from the Dredd range?

So at that level the Kickstarter is basically free worldwide postage if you wait a month

That and it is a way to generate some hype and get a big pile of capital to make more molds and thus have a larger range. Plus there might be stretch goals down the track as well to sweeten the pot.

...Or you can wait for a longer period of time and wait for Mongoose to raise the capital through occasional box sales which they may have over committed on and thus take even longer to raise the money for new molds.

Kickstarter is not always about getting a billion minis for a couple of bucks. I am growing to the opinion that a lot of people have been spoiled between Reaper, Sedition Wars etc and now anything that doesn't bombard them with free stuff is no good.

Or I could be being overly sensitive, that is also a possibility.

 scipio.au wrote:
Actually, we need a link to some hi-res pics of exactly what's in those boxes. The ones on the website need people to chase them down scattered across several categories, and are also small and horrid.

Agreed, I wanna have some speccy pics of the loots.

Charax wrote:
So..for $30 I can get a force box from the Dredd range, or I can go to the Mongoose site and spend $30 on a force box from the Dredd range?

So at that level the Kickstarter is basically free worldwide postage if you wait a month

It also gives access to new forces we hope will be appearing on Stretch Goals very soon - and they won't be appearing on our site until the Kickstarter chaps all have theirs.

.

 scipio.au wrote:
Hm. Does Council of Judges also include the figures from the lower level figures pledges inside the boxed sets? (Law Abiding, Cadet, Street, Brit-Cit).

Good suggestion - we will make that clear on the update.

 scipio.au wrote:

Actually, we need a link to some hi-res pics of exactly what's in those boxes. The ones on the website need people to chase them down scattered across several categories, and are also small and horrid.

Click on them, and they get larger. But yes, I will look into that as well.

 Vain wrote:

...Or you can wait for a longer period of time and wait for Mongoose to raise the capital through occasional box sales which they may have over committed on and thus take even longer to raise the money for new molds.

Kickstarter is not always about getting a billion minis for a couple of bucks. I am growing to the opinion that a lot of people have been spoiled between Reaper, Sedition Wars etc and now anything that doesn't bombard them with free stuff is no good.

You are not wrong but we are also not beyond this - we will hopefully be adding bits and pieces (you can see we left room to do this on the graphics of the pledge levels) depending on how the stretch goals go.

I still think there should be some miniature middle ground in the pledge levels. $120 for 4 boxes, that kinda thing. The RPG stuff is lovely but it leaves quite a big hole that you can fill easily and get more pledges. I would up my $60 to $120 for 4 boxes.
Also printing the rule book as a stretch goal addition? I know you can get it free but I do love paper copies.

Otherwise it's great. Good luck Matt.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

Actually, we need a link to some hi-res pics of exactly what's in those boxes. The ones on the website need people to chase them down scattered across several categories, and are also small and horrid.

Click on them, and they get larger. But yes, I will look into that as well.

Not to harp on about this, but your "big" pics of the boxed sets are still appallingly small. Check out GW or Reaper's sites to see a good size for the figure pictures, especially boxed sets on GW's. You're far from the only minis company to do this badly (sorry, but it's true). Mantic for one is also quite bad.

For the KS, I'd suggest turning all of the pledge level images into individual images (cut them up) that are clickable links that take you to another site whee you have a large, hi-res picture of exactly what the pledge level entails. In detail.

 JazzGB wrote:
I still think there should be some miniature middle ground in the pledge levels. $120 for 4 boxes, that kinda thing. The RPG stuff is lovely but it leaves quite a big hole that you can fill easily and get more pledges. I would up my $60 to $120 for 4 boxes.
Also printing the rule book as a stretch goal addition? I know you can get it free but I do love paper copies.

We have had a few requests for a 'midway' pledge - looking into it!

As for the book, we are talking to the chaps at Wargame Vault about exactly that!

 scipio.au wrote:

Not to harp on about this, but your "big" pics of the boxed sets are still appallingly small.

Fair point - I'll have a twiddle and see what we can do!

 JazzGB wrote:
I still think there should be some miniature middle ground in the pledge levels. $120 for 4 boxes, that kinda thing. The RPG stuff is lovely but it leaves quite a big hole that you can fill easily and get more pledges. I would up my $60 to $120 for 4 boxes.
Also printing the rule book as a stretch goal addition? I know you can get it free but I do love paper copies.

Otherwise it's great. Good luck Matt.

Agreed on both counts. Many previous Kickstarters have shown that the Sweet Spot is between $100-150. Or both of them.

Awesome, been looking for another use for a city-board I have made and this looks like it.

And the models just look like so much fun, it will be interesting using a lot of bright and pastel shades (a bit different I think to what most people are probably used to).

With this KS is it likely to generate any more miniatures to be sculpted?
The 2000AD list is so rich in famous characters, I could make a list as long as my arm of stuff I would love to see!

Sorry, but I am already 'all in' on the DFG kickstarter.

Other than that, I'm sorry to say, but the 'judges' look more like Jimps* to me, and rather than the Manta Prowl tank, I'd have preferred the more common Pat-Wagon. Even so, and taking into account that I was a follower of Dredd from the early days (I started reading 2000AD from Prog 1) and this may explain my dislike for the models on offer, I hope this goes on to do well. I would love the model of Walter, and the Lawmaster looks a great model too.

So again, IF I had more time, or more available money, I'd certainly take a punt to get those, and the others I will gladly wait for retail. either way, I'll be keeping my eye on this one. (Especially if you keep Walter in that frosted/clear he is in the picture. Mask the screen, paint the rest, remove masking.)




*Jimp. Judge IMPersonator. (Those are not the Lawgivers I grew up with!).

 Pacific wrote:

With this KS is it likely to generate any more miniatures to be sculpted?
The 2000AD list is so rich in famous characters, I could make a list as long as my arm of stuff I would love to see!

Very likely (four more Brit-Cit guys are already in the works, and we'll have news on more in a few days). As for your list, we have a long one too, but take a trip to our forums (http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=102&sid=786312502e796e942a2c05a608cf72ca) and add yours - this line is pretty much driven by requests!

 Conrad Turner wrote:
I'd have preferred the more common Pat-Wagon.

Funny you should say that Stay tuned.

wally squad. make it happen

The KS is pretty vague. REALLY vague in fact. Reminds me a lot of the original Mantic Kickstarter, which I was pretty critical of at the time. There's not a lot of real information there. There's no greens, there's no concept art, there's no timeline for these new figures or book or how the KS money will speed things along other than it lets you be "more ambitious". There's a lot of mentions of getting either the current or the new gangs at different pledge levels, but no indication on what those new gangs would be.

Well, you do mention SoV invasion Force and Dark Judges (and possibly brit-cit judges, it's unclear if they're a seperate faction or just alternate judge models). How many gangs will there be in the book? When could we expect to see the models released?

I would highly suggest coming out with a nice overview of what will be in the book. An index page with giant "work in progress" plastered on top could be a fantastic teaser image! Or even just a list of the gangs that will be in the book and a description of them. Concept art would be wonderful. Maybe a few choice weapons or special rules teases. Something.

I just got the update, and I have to say that made me laugh.

Update:

Just a quickie update (lots more to come!).

First, by popular demand, we have added a 'mid-level' pledge, the Wally Squad Judge - five box sets (of your choice, including any unlocked by future stretch goals, plus Walter the Wobot) for $150.

Second, we have posted a preview of sorts of the Block War supplement on Planet Mongoose.

Third, many of you have been asking for clearer images of the actual models. Picture of all the models in the current box sets below, or click here for a really big picture with lots of detail!

 Kalamadea wrote:

Well, you do mention SoV invasion Force and Dark Judges (and possibly brit-cit judges, it's unclear if they're a seperate faction or just alternate judge models). How many gangs will there be in the book? When could we expect to see the models released?

I would highly suggest coming out with a nice overview of what will be in the book. An index page with giant "work in progress" plastered on top could be a fantastic teaser image! Or even just a list of the gangs that will be in the book and a description of them. Concept art would be wonderful. Maybe a few choice weapons or special rules teases. Something.

I get where you are coming from on this, and over the next few days you will see a) specifics on new forces and b) the actual Block War supplement itself (have you seen the Planet Mongoose preview?). However, one of the things we would like to do is have the players/pledgers themselves suggest and choose which forces they wish to see next, and incorporate that into stretch goals. This game has always been player driven in terms of rules and this seems a great opportunity to do the same with miniatures.

The Brit-Cit Judges, BTW, are a seperate faction, with their own set of equipment and force list. They will be the first to appear in the Block War supplement.

Update:

Just managed to get a photo done of all four of these chaps together - these are the models you will receive for the Brit-Cit Judge pledge level.

These judges are a brand new faction, with their own specialised equipment and quirks, though Mega-City One judges may use them as 'Mercenaries.' We are already working on some reinforcements for them (such as the Plod Bot!), and the draft rules for their use will be appearing in a day or two in the Block War supplement.

Brit-Cit Judges?!?

I'm in!!

Just a quickie update (lots more to come!).
First, by popular demand, we have added a 'mid-level' pledge, the Wally Squad Judge - five box sets (of your choice, including any unlocked by future stretch goals, plus Walter the Wobot) for $150.
Second, we have posted a preview of sorts of the Block War supplement on Planet Mongoose.
Third, many of you have been asking for clearer images of the actual models. Picture of all the models in the current box sets below, or click here for a really big picture with lots of detail!

Good start, but more biggerer.

Seriously. Each boxed set should have large hi-res images of the same size/quality as this:



Now I may be some random noisy prick on the internet, but I buy a lot of models. GW sells a lot of models. If I want to see what any current GW figure looks like, I can get a really good quality picture from their website. You're in the business of selling models, and people like to see what they're buying. I figure it can only help your business of selling models, particularly in a Kickstarter situation.

I'd also like to see "Boxed sets" (whether they're packed in actual boxes or not) of all your Justice Department models included in this. The Ape gang or the Fatties are fine, the juves or wasteland mutants are nice in their way, but at the same time, I've got piles of generic gangbangers and so forth. I'm into Judge Dredd for the Judges. I imagine many others wolud be the same. Once I saw that the boxed sets don't actually include all your Judge/Justice models (including the specialists, etc) my immediate thought was to drop my pledge by however much to just get the Judge models. I've left it for now, but please give us a way to get all of the Judges, and skip the non-Judges if we decide to...

 scipio.au wrote:
Seriously. Each boxed set should have large hi-res images of the same size/quality as this:

Seriously? Did you click the link through to the high res image and view it full size? Each gang's picture is bigger than the one you posted from GW... granted, there are focus issues that blur out some models. Those pictures have definitely changed my mind about some of the sets... they look much nicer than I thought from the small website images.

1) We are way ahead of the 3k goal, i want MOAR!

2) Wouldn't it be easier to hype if we had a dedicated kickstarter thread with updated OP and stuff?

 scipio.au wrote:

Now I may be some random noisy prick on the internet, but I buy a lot of models. GW sells a lot of models. If I want to see what any current GW figure looks like, I can get a really good quality picture from their website. You're in the business of selling models, and people like to see what they're buying. I figure it can only help your business of selling models, particularly in a Kickstarter situation.

We have a downloadable JPG posted with bigger pics - does this help, or are you after something larger?

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/ships/jdboximages.jpg

 scipio.au wrote:

I'd also like to see "Boxed sets" (whether they're packed in actual boxes or not) of all your Justice Department models included in this. The Ape gang or the Fatties are fine, the juves or wasteland mutants are nice in their way, but at the same time, I've got piles of generic gangbangers and so forth. I'm into Judge Dredd for the Judges. I imagine many others wolud be the same. Once I saw that the boxed sets don't actually include all your Judge/Justice models (including the specialists, etc) my immediate thought was to drop my pledge by however much to just get the Judge models. I've left it for now, but please give us a way to get all of the Judges, and skip the non-Judges if we decide to...

That is a very reasonable request. I'll see what we can do!

 Vain wrote:
1) We are way ahead of the 3k goal, i want MOAR!

Just give our graphics guy a chance to have some coffee and finish off a couple of bits, and a new goal will be up!

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Vain wrote:
1) We are way ahead of the 3k goal, i want MOAR!

Just give our graphics guy a chance to have some coffee and finish off a couple of bits, and a new goal will be up!

Sure, that is just like you!

Bringing up a reasonable reason why my immediate and whiny needs haven't been met yet!

 Vain wrote:

Bringing up a reasonable reason why my immediate and whiny needs haven't been met yet!

Heh

Actually, the delay is going to work out well - instead of one item, we are going to be stretching for (quickly counts) four! Three complete forces/sets and a single mini that I think judges are going to find very useful in a Block War situation...

Just putting the finishing touches on now.


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Judge Dredd: Block War became fully funded over night, and then passed its first stretch goal - many grateful thanks for all of your support.

We have just posted the next two stretch goals;

The first features not one but two new complete forces - the Zombie Horde and a Citi-Def Squad. We have had the Zombie Mistress out for a while now, but something has been distinctly missing... We will now correct that by creating a number of zombies in ragged Mega-City One garb, along with a Judge Zombie!

As for the Citi-Def, these are Mega-City One's militiamen, mostly staffed by the bored unemployed and crazies who have seen too many action vids! Armed with very heavy weaponry, they are often the instigators of conflicts between rival blocks and can be relied to bring mayhem to your tabletop!

In addition to that, we are also adding an Electro-Cordon model for the Justice Department, a mobile energy fence that should stop massed perps in their tracks!

If we are fortunate enough to have your support up to $10,000, we are going to mark the occasion with a big 'un - the Dark Judges will be coming to the Judge Dredd miniatures game, in both physical and spirit forms. Tough forces (with Manta support?) only need apply...

 endtransmission wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:
Seriously. Each boxed set should have large hi-res images of the same size/quality as this:

Seriously? Did you click the link through to the high res image and view it full size? Each gang's picture is bigger than the one you posted from GW... granted, there are focus issues that blur out some models. Those pictures have definitely changed my mind about some of the sets... they look much nicer than I thought from the small website images.

MongooseMatt wrote:

We have a downloadable JPG posted with bigger pics - does this help, or are you after something larger?

My bad guys, I didn't realise that you could click the image to make it bigger. My apologies, and thanks for the huge pic!

MongooseMatt wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

I'd also like to see "Boxed sets" of all your Justice Department models included in this.

That is a very reasonable request. I'll see what we can do!

yeah,
To show my support I'm in for $30. I want/gonna get that boxed Judge Death box set.

I will increase my pledge if something else takes my fancy and/or a mega deal pledge level emerges that 'powers up' with stretch goals...

Panic...

The second stretch goal has been passed! Many thanks for your support in this, it really is allowing Judge Dredd to be the miniatures game we always knew it could be. Two new forces are now being added, the Zombe Horde and Citi-Def Squad. The Justice Department will also soon be taking delivery of some brand new Electro-Cordons, perfect for keeping massed zombies and crazy Citi-Def at bay!

Next up will be the Dark Judges, and villains don't get any worse than these four guys. Check out our Update on Kickstarter, coming a little later today, as we will be courting opinion on which models should appear as stretch goals next - the Judge Dredd miniatures game has always had a great deal of player input and the Kickstarter programme allows us to apply this input to the miniatures themselves.

Stay tuned, you will find the update at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/judge-dredd-miniatures-game-block-war

Zombie horde?

I can't be the only one imagining making some kind of 'Necropolis' scenario here, with civvies, fatties, judges and all of the others desperately trying to fight off the zombies!

yeah,
I'm all about the dark Judges, I'm getting what I want once the 10k goal is passed.


Wishlist... but heres some ideas anyway...
Maybe you could include Phobia and Nausea with the 4 dark judges- or as as a set for $10 extra? if the set is already full with the 4 judges plus spirits
Regular badass Judges from Deadworld would also be cool, with pterodactyl shoulderpads...
Not sure if your licence allows you access to Judge joker from the DC cross overs. or Ma-Ma ??
ABC robot...

I think you gotta add an a-la-cart system to your kickstarter so that we can pick extra individual models from both unreleased and existing sets.
Adding in a kickstarter only mini will undoubtably boost your sales, maybe a new dredd model mimicking a pose from the new movie/posters.

Panic...

Well, their existing boxed sets have 8 models in them, so it'd be going backwards bigtime if the Dark Judges only had 4 figures in their box unless it was half the price of the others. Phobia and Nausea or any of the other extras around there would fit thematically,

I joined in at the $60 level depending on what else comes out I may up this to the $150 level soon. So happy we got the Dark Judges now. they were the main reason I joined in and also the
lack of postage costs means I can spend more $$ on minis..

Keep up the great work on this. One thing I'd love to see from the 200AD range is the ABC warriors. I can dream.

LGW

For those interested, FRP games has a gak load of these guys available. I am torn between my love for all things Dredd and my past experience with this company.

What do you think I should do if I jump in with both feet, and then get the same treatement? IE Game comes out for about six months to a year, and then we start seeing issues, and then it dies?


I want to know if Matt here is going to do something more with this game then just pull another moneygrab? Are we going to see care and support continued for this game?


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And for those that don't know- Necropolis was one of the best Dredd stories out there.

I might have a hard look at this one. Especially if that boxed set comes out. Part in parcel is the zombies, as well. You can't have Judge Death out there without plenty of zombies.


heres the link to AD2000, for those interested. (It is still pretty sweet, even after all these years...)

http://www.2000adonline.com/

That $300 mark looks sweet as it means I'd get every box set in production and funded by this kickstarter if my reading comprehension is up to scratch.

I wish there was a way to swap box sets toward something else though, be it the RPGs or whatever, as some sets just don't appeal at all.

Now we're up to $12,000+ I'll be interested to see the next stretch goals. Looks like I need to extend my backing a bit more too...

 Grot 6 wrote:

What do you think I should do if I jump in with both feet, and then get the same treatement? IE Game comes out for about six months to a year, and then we start seeing issues, and then it dies?

The Judge Dredd miniatures game has been out, with continual development, for two years now. The Block War supplement, which is the reason for this Kickstarter, is the next phase of the game.

I can also say that we have recently signed a new agreement with 2000AD which now allows us to use _all_ 2000AD stories and properties (so those ABC Warriors so oft requested are now a possibility - though I would prefer to have a game with them rather than just models).

I would say there will be a fair bit of activity round this area, for as long as people keep wanting to see new material. That is always the final arbiter.


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Now we're up to $12,000+ I'll be interested to see the next stretch goals. Looks like I need to extend my backing a bit more too...

The first new stretch goes up Monday afternoon (UK time). We are now actively seeking suggestions for stretch goals, as Dredd has always been a 'community' game, but I can say we have two very sweet stretches lined up next. News on them tomorrow!

Matt, I'm not sure if you're interested in this, but...

15mm Apocalypse War.

You've got computer designs for the Justice vehicles and you'd need computer designs for the Sov vehicles, and 15mm sculpts of Judges, Citi-Def, and Sov Judges, but can you imagine how amazing it would be to wargame the Apocalypse War in 15mm?! I'd immediately pour several hundred dollars, as that's something I've wanted to do since I first read it. (who hasn't?!)

MongooseMatt wrote:
The first new stretch goes up Monday afternoon (UK time). We are now actively seeking suggestions for stretch goals, as Dredd has always been a 'community' game, but I can say we have two very sweet stretches lined up next. News on them tomorrow!

your KS, your party and I'm not even involved (not a judge dredd fan, so that limits the scope ^^ ) but despite my scepticism due to some earlier mongoose games I wish you all the best. in that light: keep in mind that not having a stretch goal up is a downer for any KS project, at any time. not sure how much it would matter for the end total but you'd be better off putting *something* up now, in my mind. even without pretty pictures or anything.
of course, that's easy for me to say

Dark Judges are a go!

I would really love a box of Brit-Cit judges to go with the small set you get for $20 - whole B-C forces for the win!

Very excited about you getting the complete 2000AD back-catalogue to use, although I think it should be spread out among different kickstarters, this is the Judge Dredd kickstarter, not the Strontium Dog kickstarter or the Rogue Trooper Kickstarter - I'd make an exception for Hammerstein though, as he was in the 1995 movie and a lot of people would love to be able to use him in that capacity

oh, and an "Anderson encased in Boing" model would be neat

MongooseMatt wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
Now we're up to $12,000+ I'll be interested to see the next stretch goals. Looks like I need to extend my backing a bit more too...

The first new stretch goes up Monday afternoon (UK time). We are now actively seeking suggestions for stretch goals, as Dredd has always been a 'community' game, but I can say we have two very sweet stretches lined up next. News on them tomorrow!

Cool, I look forward to seeing it. I would, however, strongly suggest lining up images for future stretch goals in advance though. It's always good to keep a Kickstarter moving by posting new stretch goals quite quickly after breaking one... it keeps people's interest. The more they come back to see what's going on, the more likely they/we are to up their bids

Bolognesus wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:
The first new stretch goes up Monday afternoon (UK time). We are now actively seeking suggestions for stretch goals, as Dredd has always been a 'community' game, but I can say we have two very sweet stretches lined up next. News on them tomorrow!

your KS, your party and I'm not even involved (not a judge dredd fan, so that limits the scope ^^ ) but despite my scepticism due to some earlier mongoose games I wish you all the best. in that light: keep in mind that not having a stretch goal up is a downer for any KS project, at any time. not sure how much it would matter for the end total but you'd be better off putting *something* up now, in my mind. even without pretty pictures or anything.
of course, that's easy for me to say

Quoted for the truth.

One of the things which got and kept the Reaper KS campaign flowing was the One Active, One Future goal format which they used. People might not be interested in the one which was currently in play - but they may well be interested in the future goal enough to pimp the campaign for additional interest to get to what they wanted. Pretty sure there was even some active scheming to attempt to catch them off guard a few times by running up numbers when Reaper would normally be at lunch or sleeping.

It is a good thing to get and respond to feedback, but there is a whole lot of time between now and then for a whole lot of additional items. Have a list to work from and stuff ready to swap in when a new goal is reached and then take the feedback and work it in where it would fit the best.

Yeah, seriously, plan out the next few stretch goals ahead of time even if your not telling folks what they are


We've got the stretch goals for our next one planned out rather far, and if we get to the point were I have to start thinking of new ones while the campaign is running then... well.. I won't need to bug you guys for a bigger art budget on Historia Rodentia

Another thing I think there needs to be a bundle in between the $60 and $150 point.

It could be the following:

$100, 2x Starter boxes +Walter+ Lawmaker/Judge+Judge Dredd+ Kick starter exclusive _______ [ <--- fill in the blank with what ever mini you think would be a great gift, Hammerstein, Rogue trooper, limited edition Judge Dredd or Judge Anderson.]

Or have the Street judge level come with a pat wagon...

The extra mini will be only for Kick starter and not for anything lower then the $100+ pledge level.

you need more to entice the pledger to increase his total.

At present I am only tempted at the Street Judge Level [$60]
If there was a box set of the ABC warriors, Nemesis, Rogue Trooper, or you had options to add to each box set [eg Spend $XX to add 2-3 minis to each box set] would be ideal and a way I might be tempted to add more to the project.

go have a look at all of the successful campaigns they all have things in common:

* Home page that is easy to view and understand.
* each pledger feels like they are getting the best bang for their buck. [though Reapers bones campaign sort of twisted this a bit]
* current and future goals to keep the momentum going and to entice those whom would have sat on the fence to add their $$ to the project.
* created a COMMUNITY around the game thus setting it up to succeed. This also means there will be on going support whether its updates, regular comments to questions on the KS page, tournaments, events, etc.

You have an interesting Dredd movie coming out soon use that to help your project along. Get some concept art work up on the site don't wait for the fans to choose it will take ages. Place the art work up and then let us choose. [eg have 3 to 4 options A,B,C, or D and let the fans choose that.]

just my $0.10NZD

Cheers
LGW

Hi guys,

Noted on the stretch goal comments - we had initially planned not to post more than one at a time, as it seemed, well... presumptuous However, points taken about seeing what is coming up. We will sort that out ASAP.

In the meantime, we passed the two stretch goals featured for the weekend, which means we have lots more models in the works and available for you to pledge upon - the Zombie Horde, Citi-Def Squad, Electro-Cordons... and the Dark Judges. Many thanks for your kind support on this project, we are starting to see some really exciting models now!

The Zombie Horde, Citi-Def Squad and Dark Judges will all be box sets that can be selected as one or more of your choices at Rookie, Street Judge and Wally Squad levels, and they will be added, along with the Electro-Cordons, at Council of Judges and Chief Judge levels.

Next up for a stretch goal... a persopnal favourite of mine, the Sov Invasion Force, something we have talked about doing ever since we started the Judge Dredd miniatures game. If we pass $16,000, we will add the Sov Invasion Force, consisting of six Sov Judges and Officers (with a variety of weaponry) and a Sentenoid, a large robot designed to enter an enemy city and create mayhem before the main Sov army arrives. Perfect for tackling the decadent Mega-City One judges!

Later this week, we will be posting the first version of the Block War supplement up for free download, and we will be unveiling the Pat Wagon! We have also started contracting sculptors for these new models and hopefully we will be able to showcase some of their work before the end of the Kickstarter.

 Grot 6 wrote:
For those interested, FRP games has a gak load of these guys available. I am torn between my love for all things Dredd and my past experience with this company.

What do you think I should do if I jump in with both feet, and then get the same treatement? IE Game comes out for about six months to a year, and then we start seeing issues, and then it dies?

I treat pretty much everything in 2 ways:

1) Standalone games I treat as "closed" systems. If something else comes out for ti, great, but I buy everything I'll ever need upfront and don't need (or sometimes even want) more stuff for it. I don't personally want to be buying supplements for every game for the rest of my life. I also buy enough factions that my friends and I can always have a game without needing to buy anything else, ever.

2) I make sure most of what I buy is cross-compatable with at least 1 other game. Most often it's 40k/WHFB, but it doesn't have to be.



So assuming I stay in for this Dredd game, I'll have the rules, a bunch of gangs/forces for it. I may pick up the RPG. And if I need to, I can always use a bunch of this stuff as 40k figures or Necromunda gangs. I don't feel a need for it to be supported forever.







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MongooseMatt wrote:

The first new stretch goes up Monday afternoon (UK time). We are now actively seeking suggestions for stretch goals, as Dredd has always been a 'community' game, but I can say we have two very sweet stretches lined up next. News on them tomorrow!

Those Brit-Cit judges need some friends and to be put into a box. I'd also be interested in seeing factions from the other Mega Cities around the world, as Muties and gangers are easy figures to come by.

Yay! I have a cohort in wanting a Brit-Cit boxed set.

Actually I could rattle off a dozen boxed sets I'd love to see - Mechanismos (I, II and IIa), Judda, Judge Kraken (who would've been pretty cool as part of the Dark Judges stretch goal), fauna like Dune Sharks...

 scipio.au wrote:
And if I need to, I can always use a bunch of this stuff as 40k figures or Necromunda gangs.

Speaking of which, we had an order a few months ago that gave me the distinct impression that someone was using our apes as Imperial Guard. Now that is an army I would like to see!

 scipio.au wrote:

Those Brit-Cit judges need some friends and to be put into a box. I'd also be interested in seeing factions from the other Mega Cities around the world, as Muties and gangers are easy figures to come by.

More Brit-Cits coming, including weapon variants (the Bumpf Gun!) and the Plod Bot - not sure yet whether they will be ready for the Kickstarter's end, as we want to get our sculptors working on models that have been promised thus far, like the Citi-Def and Dark Judges (hoping to have some greens on display before the Kickstarter ends). Sov Judges are the next stretch goal, and I would be surprised if we did not see an Oz Judge pop up a little later...

Sorry for not signing up and posting on your forum Matt (trying to cut back) but have you considered a "The Family Dredd" set.

Have the following

- Fargo in Long Walk Outfit = Good cursed earth wastelander leader.
- Old Dredd in Static but awesome pose = Good Justice Dept leader
- Young Dredd / Rico (2nd) in dynamic pose = Good Justice Dept leader but also synergises well with Old Dredd
- Kraken in Judda outfit = Everyone needs a Big Bad guy or cult leader model even if they dont like the Judda.
- Post Titan Rico (1st) = Criminal gang leader or another Big Bad.


Thant and of course "The Wayward Children" set of ex-Judges with :

Galen De Marco, PI (and her burly and hairy assistant)
Pointe and Clique (from the Simping Detective)
Lenny Zero
The Wally Squadders from the Low Life (who doesn't want a Dirty Frank?)

Some good ideas there - DeMarco and Perkins were certainly on the list already

there are apes, with guns! consider me on board, I must have these!

the judge dredd models look awesome too, good for arbites as well
that and there's a character named Caligula...thats hilarious

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
there are apes, with guns! consider me on board, I must have these!

the judge dredd models look awesome too, good for arbites as well
that and there's a character named Caligula...thats hilarious

that made me LOL!

Arbites exist in 40k only because GW had the Dredd miniatures license at the time and told Rick Priestly that Rogue Trader had to have rules for every model they made! Along came the Arbites! Nice seeing it come full circle!

(and the Jokaero, too! because they made a model of Dave the Organgutan, mayor of Mega City One!)

yeah and they are really neat models
I always loved Judge Dredd, and now there's a game I can play and models I can easily get

Matt/Mongoose,

trying to find the answer but I didn't (could've missed it).

I'd like to pledge for the $300 Council of Judges level, but I already have a lot of those figures from years ago playing Gangs of Mega City One and I don't need dupes of a lot of them (like Robot or Ape gang, etc). Can I mix & match the ten boxes, or is it literally limited to one of each?

Also Matt, since it is question time....

I have pledged $60, but it is for me and my friend.
What benefit do I get for getting the Street Judge level as opposed to 2 Rookie Judge Levels?

As far as I can tell, the Street Judge misses out on a Walter but otherwise is the same? Since we both want a Wobot of our own I am leaning towards getting two Rookies, and if it isnt possible to do in one order, making him get his own pledge so we both get one.

 scipio.au wrote:
Now I may be some random noisy prick on the internet...

Yeah, but you're our random noisy prick. Aww, c'mere! *hugs scipio*

 judgedoug wrote:

I'd like to pledge for the $300 Council of Judges level, but I already have a lot of those figures from years ago playing Gangs of Mega City One and I don't need dupes of a lot of them (like Robot or Ape gang, etc). Can I mix & match the ten boxes, or is it literally limited to one of each?

You can indeed mix and match. We'll be in contact after the Kickstarter ends to work out exactly what you are after.

 Vain wrote:

I have pledged $60, but it is for me and my friend.
What benefit do I get for getting the Street Judge level as opposed to 2 Rookie Judge Levels?

As far as I can tell, the Street Judge misses out on a Walter but otherwise is the same? Since we both want a Wobot of our own I am leaning towards getting two Rookies, and if it isnt possible to do in one order, making him get his own pledge so we both get one.

Good point - at the moment, you are correct, but we'll see if we can put something into the Street Judge level to make a difference...

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
there are apes, with guns! consider me on board, I must have these!

the judge dredd models look awesome too, good for arbites as well
that and there's a character named Caligula...thats hilarious

Caligula is a funny guy like that. Even more funny is how the storyline played out.

heres wiki, for laughs. har, har har......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Cal

http://www.2000ad.org/?zone=thrill&page=profiles&choice=CAL


Only name you need to know for bad ass.characters- Garth Ennis.

You really need the Cursed Earth story before that.

Basically JD takes "Spikes Harvey Rotten", a perp, and a group of judges on a trek across the cursed earth to Mega City 2, bringing them the vaccine to the deadly plague, "2T-Fru-T". By the time he gets back, Cal has taken over as Chief Judge, and boy, is Cal a madman.

Deputy Chief Judge Fish, ordering the SJS to kill Dredd, ordering judges who displease him to wear either just their underwear, or girls clothes, hiring the Kleggs as additional judges, and even celebrating a report of Dredd's death by making crime LEGAL! (And then getting annoyed when people don't commit any!)

Now I would really like a "Cal's Court" box with a judge in his underwear, and one in a girl's dress, Grampus the Klegg made a judge, and of course DCJ Fish.

Unfortunately I have just spent all my available money on another KS, but would have liked Walter and a Lawmaster bike at the very least.

The news of Mongoose having licences for more than just JD out of the 2000AD catalogue does interest me, however. I hope this means that at some later point we might get to see the other great classics.

1. The Harlem Heroes and their opponents

2. The VC's (The Vacuum Cleaners) in their initial run, not the return of.... (I want Jupe, Hensho, Dwarf Star, Loon, and Ringer, not Kali, Ryx, Keege, etc.)

3. The Ro-Busters (Robots to the rescue!)

4. The A.B.C. Warriors, especially "The Mek-nificent 7" era. (Hammerstein, Deadlock, Joe Pineapples, Blackblood, Mongrol, Steelhorn/The Mess, and Happy Schrapnel)

5. Johnny Alpha, Strontium Dog. Wulf Sternhammer, Middenface McNulty, Torso, and Evans the Fist, all fighting against an army of Kreelers.

I think it would be nice if you could swap boxes for Dredd RPG supplements, or have them as lone add ons.

Def add-ons. I'd like to nab a copy of the Dredd/Traveller (I had the Dredd d20, didn't like it much. Didn't like d20 system at all)

Mega-City One is on the alert right now; as we get ever closer to the next stretch goal, the Sov Invasion force prepares its assault on the decadent capitalist judges...

Before that happens though, we wanted to update you on a few things that have happened/are going on.

1. We have added the Lawmaster to the Chief Judge level, giving you more for your pledge.

2. There is an entirely new pledge level - the Citi-Def Soldier. This one will give you the rulebook in a hardcopy, hardcover, full colour tome, delivered free to your doorstep, courtesy of the guys at Wargame Vault. If you have already pledged and fancy this rulebook, remember you can simply increase your current pledge to cover other items. We will be in touch with you after the Kickstarter ends to find out what exactly you were after.

3. Our graphics guy, Will, is just working on the artwork at the moment, but we will be adding a new stretch goal this afternoon - upon touching $18,000, we will immediatly commission new miniatures for Judge Anderson, Judge DeMarco, DeMarco PI, and Travis Perkins. A healthy batch of personalities, if there ever was one!

4. All going well, we should be unveiling Sandrine's new Pat Wagon tomorrow! You won't want to miss that...

Well I pushed us into the Sov Judge stretch goal.

Matt, a couple questions:

Any chance of a Lawmaster box that's got a couple Lawmasters in it?

And, there are several Judge molds you've retired... any chance of bringing them back? I need more! I'm aiming to do Apocalypse War and the normal Judge box has so many specialists, I'd love to get some of the alternate poses (including the female Judge)

a quick question: Do Mongoose own Judge Dredd's copyright and own the rights to sell models?

If not anyone that got into the kickstart can get sue for copyright. Need to know before i jump on.

tyllon wrote:
a quick question: Do Mongoose own Judge Dredd's copyright and own the rights to sell models?

If not anyone that got into the kickstart can get sue for copyright. Need to know before i jump on.

They have a license to sell Judge Dredd stuff - and have for some time.

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd.html

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/rpgs/traveller/judge-dredd.html

No worries.

They've had the license since 2001 or so. It was their first licensed product.

 judgedoug wrote:
They've had the license since 2001 or so. It was their first licensed product.

Indeed. And recently renegoiated to cover all 2000AD properties.

yeah,

MongooseMatt wrote:
Indeed. And recently renegoiated to cover all 2000AD properties.

Winning!
That is great news Let me know when you start selling GI's and Norts scum...
I, for one, welcome our new Mongoose overlords and their quartz zone massacre.

Panic...

 Panic wrote:

That is great news Let me know when you start selling GI's and Norts scum...
I, for one, welcome our new Mongoose overlords and their quartz zone massacre.

This is looking quite likely

Well we are past 18.5k

Come on, poke that art monkey of yours into making up the images for the new stretch goals. You do have more stretch goals planned right? I still have more money that could be massaged out of me.

I am hoping more value is added to the current pldege levels

Its nive we can get a fee PSI-Judge but I feel the levels are just not there. seriously I have no enticement to upgrade my Street judge to Wally Judge squad level,

I only want the Dark Judges box set and the Justice department box set. [I may add in the lawmaker and judge dredd but they can wait for now until the survey comes out..

What other things are planed? more updates or have some one on there to answer our questions would be good. lets build a community around this game.

look at the Dreadball KS 1,610 backers with 6,696 comments its a thriving group planning events, asking loads of questions and getting answers really quickly.

LGW

 Vain wrote:

Come on, poke that art monkey of yours into making up the images for the new stretch goals. You do have more stretch goals planned right? I still have more money that could be massaged out of me.

Got something a little special coming - will be updating in an hour or so (but if you peek at the pledge levels, you will see a new one added ).

 Lord GreyWolf wrote:
I am hoping more value is added to the current pldege levels

Its nive we can get a fee PSI-Judge but I feel the levels are just not there. seriously I have no enticement to upgrade my Street judge to Wally Judge squad level,

I only want the Dark Judges box set and the Justice department box set. [I may add in the lawmaker and judge dredd but they can wait for now until the survey comes out..

What other things are planed? more updates or have some one on there to answer our questions would be good. lets build a community around this game.

Interesting comment on the Wally Squad level - I'll see what we can do about that.

We are about to update with two new stretch goals, the Block War supplement itself, and the latest work from Sandrine's desk. It is going to be a good 'un!

I'll second that. If you look at all of the really successul kickstarters they have a real nice "sweet spot" between $90 and $150 (or a couple of them).

I'm still eyeballing my Council of Judges level pledge. It's nice to get the extras, but at the same time, I'm not that excited by the scummers. More sets of Judges would fix that problem - even the option to choose my own 10 boxes for the base pledge would go a long way to fixing that.

And is there a way for $300 pledgers to get the lower level items? $5 Dredd, Brit-cit guys? Lawmaster? Even the RPG books as an add-on?


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 scipio.au wrote:
Now I may be some random noisy prick on the internet...

Yeah, but you're our random noisy prick. Aww, c'mere! *hugs scipio*

 scipio.au wrote:

I'm still eyeballing my Council of Judges level pledge. It's nice to get the extras, but at the same time, I'm not that excited by the scummers. More sets of Judges would fix that problem - even the option to choose my own 10 boxes for the base pledge would go a long way to fixing that.

And is there a way for $300 pledgers to get the lower level items? $5 Dredd, Brit-cit guys? Lawmaster? Even the RPG books as an add-on?

Choosing your own sets out of the ten will not be a problem. Also, we are going to be adding today a Kickstarter-only 'Justice Department II' set, containing all the judges not included in the first set (wasn't that your suggestion too? ).

As for your other question, you can always pledge the additional amount needed for the lower level items (so, add $5 for Dredd, $20 for Brit-Cit, etc). We need to be careful about simply throwing things in at every pledge level, as it ultimately undermines the higher ones. We also have to watch that they do not cost us more than the pledge amounts (and that is a real factor when you consider we have free shipping on everything).

That said, we have just added something to the $150 and $300 levels that I think you are going to want to take a look at

I don't think a sweet spot is something that should be something that is specifically created or aimed for. The fact there has been some pretty good "sweetspots" is cool but more that it was because of the good product.

My take on this is that any pledge level shouldn't be a multiple of another pledge level with the same multiple of stuff.

Pledge Level 1 is $X for Y
Pledge Level 2 is $2X for 2Y
Pledge Level 2 is $3X for 3Y

This gives no benefit to customer to choose a specific pledge as they are all the same. This gets worse when there are pledge level benefits as shown in my below examples.


Using my specific situation you have made me make a choice not that you have added extras.

At the moment I could get 2 Rookie Judge sets for $60 and I would get 2 boxes and 2 Wobots.
OR
I could go 1 Street Judge set for $60 and get 2 box sets, 1 Wobot and 1 De Marco.

Now I have to make a choice and it is killing me. (In a good way)



Now looking at Greywolf's issue (hey there, hoping you are the same Greywolf as on Ausbowl!)

He could get 1 Wally Squad for $150 and get himself 5 boxes, 1 Wobot and 1 Psi Judge....
OR
He could 2 Street Judges and 1 Rookie for $150 and get himself 5 Boxes, 3 Wobots and 2 Psi Judges.


The pick and mix is showing to be a much more popular choice over the flat pledge due to the extras that are available.

EDIT: DAMMIT! now you go an add a pat-wagon and make GreyWolf's decision a lot easier. Good show!

Will the stretch goals be available to purchase seperately? I won't be able to afford the $300 pledge level, but I'm very interested in picking up the Dark Judges and a few other pieces (probably the Holocaust Judges, The Big man himself and the Lawmaster)

 Vain wrote:
I don't think a sweet spot is something that should be something that is specifically created or aimed for. The fact there has been some pretty good "sweetspots" is cool but more that it was because of the good product.

It depends on how much money they want to make versus how much of a discount they want to give.


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 scipio.au wrote:

I'm still eyeballing my Council of Judges level pledge. It's nice to get the extras, but at the same time, I'm not that excited by the scummers. More sets of Judges would fix that problem - even the option to choose my own 10 boxes for the base pledge would go a long way to fixing that.

And is there a way for $300 pledgers to get the lower level items? $5 Dredd, Brit-cit guys? Lawmaster? Even the RPG books as an add-on?

Choosing your own sets out of the ten will not be a problem. Also, we are going to be adding today a Kickstarter-only 'Justice Department II' set, containing all the judges not included in the first set (wasn't that your suggestion too? ).

As for your other question, you can always pledge the additional amount needed for the lower level items (so, add $5 for Dredd, $20 for Brit-Cit, etc). We need to be careful about simply throwing things in at every pledge level, as it ultimately undermines the higher ones. We also have to watch that they do not cost us more than the pledge amounts (and that is a real factor when you consider we have free shipping on everything).

That said, we have just added something to the $150 and $300 levels that I think you are going to want to take a look at

Nice work on all three counts. Can we add for multiples of the lower level items? For example if I want to get some extra Brit-cit judges, or a couple more Dredds to convert?

Time for the Street Gang and Cursed Earth scum to take a walk to make room for more Judges, and those fatties can roll over for more Holocaust Judges!

He could get 1 Wally Squad for $150 and get himself 5 boxes, 1 Wobot and 1 Psi Judge....
OR
He could 2 Street Judges and 1 Rookie for $150 and get himself 5 Boxes, 3 Wobots and 2 Psi Judges

dam your right it would be better for me to get the 2nd option

but they have added in the Pat wagon to the Wally Squad Judge level not sure if its that tempting yet... its a nice mini but its not something that grabs my attention.

arrrgghhh what to do.

GreyWolf

I would gladly trade you 2 Wobots and a Psi Judge for that Pat-Wagon.

It looks quite fine!


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Yo Matt, doesn't bother me but some people are quite anal about this sort of thing.

The Sov Force design has silhouettes of 8 figures but you only get 7 in a box (6 judges and a droid)

Accidental, design choice or secret Sov judge upgrade?

Thanks for the updates Matt. That Pat Wagon is looking brilliant; do you know how big the wagon is please?

I'm currently in for the Street Judge and a Pat Wagon, but a quick look at the levels; for an extra $50 I can upgrade to the Wally level and get me three more boxes to get us started. Very nice

This will be quite a big update!

Thank you!
First of all, two more stretch goals have fallen, and we will now be seeing not only the Sov Invasion force make its way into Mega-City One, but they can now be opposed by some true defenders of the city - Psi-Judge Anderson, Judge DeMarco, Galen DeMarco PI, and the Simian Sam Spade, Travis Perkins! Our grateful thanks to all of you for that, it may have been a long, long time before those four characters came out without your help.

Pat Wagon
Sandrine, our 3D designer, has been hard at work, and we can now add the Mk III Pat Wagon as a new pledge (you will find it under the $40 Tek-Judge level). If you want to show perps you mean business but consider the Manta to be an overkill (it is possible), then this armoured Pat Wagon, complete with riot foam dispensers and street cannon, is just what you need.



If you have already pledged and are after a Pat Wagon, it is not a problem - simply add $40 to your existing pledge and we will be in contact after the Kickstarter ends to find out exactly what you were after.

We are also adding the Pat Wagon to the Wally Squad, Council of Judges and Chief Judge levels, so if you have pledged at one of these levels, you are getting one anyway!

New Stretch Goal - Demonic Cabal & Exorcist Judge
Next up, new stretch goals - as promised, we are posting two at a time now, so you can see what is coming up. First, is a new force, one I have been waiting for a long time to add to the game.. The Demonic Cabal! Featuring a Grand Warlock, his minions (probably unemployed citizens who just signed up out of boredom), and demons ready to cause mayhem, they will spend their time courting powers man was not meant to know. With a mixture of possession and true summoning, they will be able to bring terror to Mega-City One - if they can control the demons they call upon...

With all these demons and Dark Judges flying about the city, the Justice Department is going to need some psychic reinforcement - so we will also add the Exorcist Judge!

New Stretch Goal - Pat Wagon Variants
If, with your kind help, we pass that stretch goal, we have another treat lined up. The Mk III Pat Wagon is a widely used vehicle and many are specialised for certain roles - we will add three variants, including a Fire Wagon and (very) heavily armoured Riot Wagon (complete with People Plough!). We will also add the Mk IV Pat Wagon, an anti-grav design (you can see it in the Block Mania story).

If you have pledged at Tek-Judge level or any other that receives a Pat Wagon, you will be able to choose the variant you are after (Chief Judge level, of course, gets one of each). If you have several Tek-Judge pledges, you may want to pick them all up anyway!

You can read more about the Pat Wagon and see more pics at Planet Mongoose.

Block War - It Is Here!
We have just posted the first draft of the Block War supplement on our web site, and you can download it from our web site. It may seem a little short at the moment, but remember we are adding to it all the time, and it will be updated several times during this Kickstarter and beyond. However, we have already managed to pack in the force lists for the Brit-Cit Justice Department, Citi-Def, a preview of the Manta Prowl Tank, and more Mercenaries and weaponry!

Justice Department Set II
We will soon be posting a detailed 'poster' that shows you all the choices you have for box sets at the Rookie, Street and Wally Squad levels. By popular request, we will also be adding a Kickstarter-only Justice Department II set, which will feature all the current judges not in the first set.


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 Vain wrote:


EDIT: DAMMIT! now you go an add a pat-wagon and make GreyWolf's decision a lot easier. Good show!

Yeah, we were kinda planning that Basically, the little discrepancies you raise will sort themselves out as the Kickstarter range gets more comprehensive. The bigger pledges will always get more in the end.

 KoganStyle wrote:
Will the stretch goals be available to purchase seperately? I won't be able to afford the $300 pledge level, but I'm very interested in picking up the Dark Judges and a few other pieces (probably the Holocaust Judges, The Big man himself and the Lawmaster)

Basically, yes - you can always choose a pledge level, but pledge an additional amount to cover any additional items you are after. For example, if you pledged at the Street Judge Level ($60), that would get you the Dark Judges and Holocaust sets (and Walter!). You could then add another $5 for Dredd and another $20 for the Lawmaster (total $85). We will be in touch after the Kickstarter ends to find out exactly what you are after.

(Also answers Scipio, I think - yes, you can add multiples for lower pledge levels. So, for example, if you were after two Lawmasters, add $40 to your current pledge. Again, we will be in touch to find out what you are after).

 Lord GreyWolf wrote:

but they have added in the Pat wagon to the Wally Squad Judge level not sure if its that tempting yet... its a nice mini but its not something that grabs my attention.

The Riot Wagon might get your attention - heavier armour all round, and a nice, big 'People Plough' at the front!

 Vain wrote:

Yo Matt, doesn't bother me but some people are quite anal about this sort of thing.
The Sov Force design has silhouettes of 8 figures but you only get 7 in a box (6 judges and a droid)

I'll get that sorted - we have to do an update on those graphics anyway today, so I'll put that in at the top of the job list!

mmm RIOT Pat wagon now that sounds interesting ok I may be tempted by the Wally Squad Judge level.

I shell wait and see what other box sets are launched and see what could make jump on that level Only want the Dark judges, Justice Department. and the Justice department II,

I may decide to get the Zombie Mistress and her Zombie horde. so that takes care of 4 out of 5 boxes what else is there?

LGW

Ape Gang? Everyone loves a monkey

was never fussed on planet of the apes and an Ape gang

just posted on the KS page:

Alan just now
ok can we get a fan poll set up on what box set we want: So leave your choice here and I'll tally up the votes.

ABC Warriors 2

LGW

Actually, if you want the full Justice Department mix, maybe the Holocaust Judges set?

Quick question about the Council of Judges level; the description says you get all ten boxes and others may be added through stretch goals.

The image on Kickstarter looks like you get the 10 current boxes, plus all of the new boxes as well; but a couple of pages back you mentioned that we'd be able to mix and match those 10 boxes if we didn't want the sky surfers (or something else).

Is Council of Judges "select 10 boxes out of all those released or unlocked at the end of the kickstarter", or "one of each box previously released and all the new ones unlocked during kickstarter"?

 endtransmission wrote:
Quick question about the Council of Judges level; the description says you get all ten boxes and others may be added through stretch goals.

The image on Kickstarter looks like you get the 10 current boxes, plus all of the new boxes as well; but a couple of pages back you mentioned that we'd be able to mix and match those 10 boxes if we didn't want the sky surfers (or something else).

Is Council of Judges "select 10 boxes out of all those released or unlocked at the end of the kickstarter", or "one of each box previously released and all the new ones unlocked during kickstarter"?

This: "one of each box previously released and all the new ones unlocked during kickstarter"

Wait, what? Earlier you told scipio that Council of Judges "Choosing your own sets out of the ten will not be a problem".

I am operating under the assumption we can mix and match. I already own most of the stuff released for Gangs of Mega City One and don't need another Ape Gang, gangers, etc.

Please advise asap if we can select whatever boxes we want with the $300 pledge or if we are limited and can only get "one of each box previously released"

 judgedoug wrote:
Wait, what? Earlier you told scipio that Council of Judges "Choosing your own sets out of the ten will not be a problem".

I am operating under the assumption we can mix and match. I already own most of the stuff released for Gangs of Mega City One and don't need another Ape Gang, gangers, etc.

Please advise asap if we can select whatever boxes we want with the $300 pledge or if we are limited and can only get "one of each box previously released"

We are not going to have a problem if you want more of one box set and less of another with the Council of Judges level

Hrm if that's the case might change my pledge and half a Council of Judges level with a friend and add on a few extras if we can both just pick and choose whatever.

That's pretty nifty, thanks for clarifying that for us Matt. I will need to seriously consider finding $300 from somewhere now

MongooseMatt wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Wait, what? Earlier you told scipio that Council of Judges "Choosing your own sets out of the ten will not be a problem".

I am operating under the assumption we can mix and match. I already own most of the stuff released for Gangs of Mega City One and don't need another Ape Gang, gangers, etc.

Please advise asap if we can select whatever boxes we want with the $300 pledge or if we are limited and can only get "one of each box previously released"

We are not going to have a problem if you want more of one box set and less of another with the Council of Judges level

Hey Matt, very specifically I'm going to want to swap out my original 10 boxes for all Judge, Sov Judge, and Citi Def boxes. I've been wanting to run the Apocalypse War since I first read the storyline about 15 years ago, and, again, I have most of the other figures from the GoMC-1 range. Let me know if that's do-able.

I understand if we can't swap out the freebies/addons (like the freebie Dark Judges set, etc), but I'm just concerned about the original 10 boxes in the pledge.


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Sorry if I'm pressing the issue, I just want to be crystal clear. I'm at $300 already and depending on how some ebay sales and overtime go I may double up to two Council of Juges pledges in order to get all the Sovs and CitiDef I'd need for Apocalypse War gaming.

 judgedoug wrote:
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Hey Matt, very specifically I'm going to want to swap out my original 10 boxes for all Judge, Sov Judge, and Citi Def boxes. I've been wanting to run the Apocalypse War since I first read the storyline about 15 years ago, and, again, I have most of the other figures from the GoMC-1 range. Let me know if that's do-able.

I understand if we can't swap out the freebies/addons (like the freebie Dark Judges set, etc), but I'm just concerned about the original 10 boxes in the pledge.

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Sorry if I'm pressing the issue, I just want to be crystal clear. I'm at $300 already and depending on how some ebay sales and overtime go I may double up to two Council of Juges pledges in order to get all the Sovs and CitiDef I'd need for Apocalypse War gaming.

We can do that for you (on condition you send us photos of the games ).

Be aware though that while we can send the Judges pretty much immediatly after the Kickstarter, the Sov and Citi-Def are likely to take a couple of months, and they will come seperately (so you will effectively be getting three packages at different times). Might work out well for your painting schedule though!

Just had another thought on this - we are quite happy to do these 'custom' deals (just let us know about them when we contact you after the Kickstarter ends) but there might be a (slight) additional delay. If someone just wants the ten boxes, that is fine, they will already be manufactured and we can send them straight out. If someone wants a custom order, we may put that to one side for a few days and deal with the, umm, normals first. Won't be a huge factor, it won't drag into weeks, but we will want/need to sort out the most people in the shortest time.

If you are cool with that, so are we!

Matt, that's just fine - delayed shipping, separate shipments - I'll have to not only paint them all but also make a suitable ruined Mega City table setup

thank you very much for the clarification and flexibility.

I think a delay in order to swap out some of the boxes is more than fair, thank you

I'm not really a Dredd fan, but the Pat-Wagons would make awesome vehicles for an Adeptus Arbites force. Chimeras, maybe?

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I'm not really a Dredd fan, but the Pat-Wagons would make awesome vehicles for an Adeptus Arbites force. Chimeras, maybe?

Well, the Justice Department could not officially authorise such useage, but they are about the size of a Rhino...

Just added an update that includes the Fire Wagon!

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/judge-dredd-miniatures-game-block-war/posts

Looking forward to seeing what the Riot Pat wagon looks like.

I still think the Wally Squad judge level needs something else addied the pat wagon was awesome but it just needs that something extra... not sure what it could be you have 44 backers at Street level and only 13 at Wally and I think its the price jump from $60 to $150 its alot more and I think currently more is required to tempt those 44 pledger to go up.

what about offering some Mega-city 1 terrain.

Give one pack to Wally, Council, and chief pledge levels any other level needs to pay $XX per pack. And then offer to those at the three mentioned levels a buy one get one free on Terrain pack. So if I have wally level I'd get one pack and I'd get another two more for $XX amount.

I'd add more $$ for that plus it would add value to my original pledge. come on who wouldn't want some awesome terrain.

Or another option add in an exclusive KS mini that will only be added to the Wally, Council and Chief levels and may be given at events. etc

just a few random thoughts as I pack 25kg bags of wholemilk on a friday night.

LGW

The Fire Wagon is awesome, and it might actually be better than the Pat Wagon. The lines are very Mega City One.

As to making Wally Squad more appealing, perhaps add in a few figures from each unlocked box set than can still be used in the game? So for example, three or four Sov-Judges, a Dark Judge and two spirits, two or three cultists and a demon. That way it's not enough to devalue the higher pledge levels that Matt seems concerned with, but it's enough to give people more incentives to reach stretch goals. The more goals reached, the more little fun groups of figures you can use for scenarios or as mercenary/allies.

I'd also like to see some sort of BOGOF offer, although not on scenery. Not really though the idea through. I still think there should be more add-ons, or the ability to swap boxes for other items like RPGs, Pat Wagons, Law Masters etc etc, though again I'm not sure how viable that is.

lets look at the wally squad judge level as being the main level [though the current amount of pledges have the Street judge as the main level]

its certainly compariable to the likes of Dreadballs striker level or Zombicides Abomination levels.

really looking at the Wally level IT should be the main level. every one who is pledging to it, should be offered heaps of options and add ons so they don't just pledge to the smaller levels. [or want to buy multiple smaller levels]

and being worried that the bigger levels are not getting a good show simply add to them as well. we are not asking for a million items like the reaper one.. but something that sets the wally level apart from the rest.

like I mentioned before the addition of the Pat wagon was a great start its what got me to up my pledge. but how about adding in a lawmaker or the dredd mini into that pack. it would add in more value and give some one a dam good reason to up their pledge amount.

The terrain idea was just that an idea you could do BOGOF on a box set to set the other levels apart as well.

Cheers
LGW

I agree with you Lord GreyWolf, Wally should be the main level with tonnes of add ons to make it the most appealing. I was simply trying to present a palatable solution to a problem MongooseMatt percieved, not one I necessarily agree with.

I'd love the Lawmaster and Dredd to be added, or if unlocked at a later stage a Lionmaster and a Brit Cit Judge.

I guess I'm just against terrain because it's something I don't need, but I'd love BOGOFs on more minis.

Points on the Wally Squad level taken - we are adding new items to this Kickstarter all the time, so I will make sure a few get diverted to make Wallys look more attractive (!).

We have just passed another stretch goal, and so not only will the Demonic Cabal be added (which is going to be a right hoot to play, as they are not necessarily the most competent guys around), but also the Exorcist Judge!

We have also started the process of getting a Female SJS Judge going (using it to test out a new sculptor).

We will be adding one more stretch goal before the weekend, and while it will be a 'one-off' for this Kickstarter, it will be for something many,. many people have asked us for. Stay tuned!

That's given me an idea.

If you are doing 'one off' models for the KS, how about a stretch goal of a single figure of




Fergee, king of the big smelly!

We have just passed another stretch goal, thank you all very much for your continued support in this project. Demonic Cabals and an Exorcist Judge will be on your tabletops soon!

For the next stretch goal, we wanted something a little bit special, and have chosen something we have had a lot of requests for...

If, with your kind and dedicated support, we managed to pass the landmark $30,000 barrier, we will be adding something many of you have been asking for. While the main focus of this project is Judge Dredd, we can’t really ignore some of the other 2000AD universes out there, so we have decided to do a ‘one-off’ stretch goal, a single one devoted to these other worlds. We will therefore be adding Rogue Trooper, along with a Souther and a Nort soldier. There is a possibility we may do a separate Rogue Trooper game at some point, and so this will be a good starting point!

Not enough for you? Well, in that case we better add something else – the ABC Warriors will be coming too! We will be adding Hammerstein, Deadlock, Joe Pineapples, Mongrol, Mars Steelhorn, and Blackblood as a complete set.

What about Mek-Quake, you ask? Well, he won’t fit into a box with the others! We may add Mek-Quake (as a decent-sized resin model) as just one more ‘other world’ stretch goal a little later on, if the other ABC Warriors prove popular, and if you let us know you want him!

The ABC Warriors will be offered as a set that can be chosen at Rookie, Street, and Wally Levels, and of course will be included as additional sets at Council of Judges and Chief Judge levels.

Rogue Trooper, the Souther and the Nort will be added at Wally Squad, Council of Judges and Chief Judge levels.

I will be posting this onto a few forums boards latter on letting them know the ABC warriors are coming to town....

And Rogue Trooper as well I am in metal heaven....

I think you made a great choice/decsion/idea/brain-wave to add them... lets see if we can make it pay as well..

Cheers
LGW

Humanoid Mek-Quake, or Kill-Dozer Mek-Quake?

I'd do "Big Jobs" for the kill-dozer variant!

Hooo boy, my bank account is starting to weep. The ABC and Rogue Trooper models sound like great stretches, I can't wait to see them. Is there any chance we'll be able to buy extras of the RT models on top of our current pledges? Even if it is only available to those who pledge at the $300+ levels

yeah,
I agree... Love the fact your making a Rouge Trouper mini... and I wants it.
But I'm not jumping to $150 for one mini!

Add him to an extras list........
I'll buy him for $10


Panic...

Well, the Rogue figures will no doubt be available following the Kickstarter, so that's always an option for you...

I blaming this KS project on my 2000AD plunge just got back into the Dredd world via my old comics I found. and I have found even more ideas for Box sets:

Vampire Hershey and the Blue Hells Bells [Vampire judges] the Mutant Judge Child and ZOMBIE DREDD!!!!!!!

Block armies, various minis that could be added to a Citi-Def box set to make them sutable for a Block scenario. rag tag civs armed with various weapons to flesh out a Citi-def set.
maybe even having some transfers made up to be able to be placed on their backs depicting various "Blocks"

another idea to add to Wally,council and chief could be tokens of some kind that would aid in playing the game from a can of BOING to capture the Dark judges, to various status counters [eg riot foam, place a marker beside or under the effected model to remind you they can not do anything this turn] Riot foam neutralizer [eg a can of spray painted in a particular colour to denote its a neutralizer, could use the same token as BOING]

I still think if your adding in the Rouge trooper with a south and Nort soldier at least add in the Traitor General and give us the option to buy more of the south and nort troopers. enough to make a squad and we could simply use the Block wars rules to play them until the offical Rogue Trooper rules come out.

with so many KS projects out there currently offering more and more "buy EXTRA stuff" it has been hard on the funds and the $$ can only go so far or on a few things. I am already looking at reducing my pledge on another KS project or even dropping it as its turing into a cash cow.

also it is hard on those pledgers who live outside of the U.S [considering its the currencey used by all KS] as we have to deal with our exchange rate which isn't fun. $180USD [Wally+Lawmaker+judge dredd] is $217NZD the bonus for me is NO postage costs. So the money I would normally add to it is now spent on mins. I understand Moongoose has to make a profit, but I hope there won't be to many more please "pay $XX to get this item that you really must have or else your game will suck." = cash cow.

I don't mind paying some thing extra but when its done on SO MANY items it gets a bit over the top. and the amount your paying starts to spiral.

Stepping off soap box now,.... better head back to work last night shift then 4 days off to catch up on painting mins and playing Zombicide

LGW

While Greywolf is sleeping off his metaphorical pixie sticks, I agree with the sentiment. Have you considered offering the chance to purchase additional items at an appropriate cost to cover yourselves. Wally Squad is the place to be at the moment, though I would only be able to get a De Marco PI or a Travis, not both to make the team up

What we are asking is to consider having those four miniatures as a "Add 1 for $X" that could be added to the pledge. That way you can squeeze some extra dosh out of the people who want to expand their Judge force (Psi Judge + Judge De Marco) or go the PI option (Galen and Travis) or even get all four because they love the characters.

At the moment to get all 4 you need to be plonking $300 and that is a little high for myself unless i get people to take 5-7 of the box sets to take off my hands.

 Lord GreyWolf wrote:
I blaming this KS project on my 2000AD plunge just got back into the Dredd world via my old comics I found. and I have found even more ideas for Box sets:

Vampire Hershey and the Blue Hells Bells [Vampire judges] the Mutant Judge Child and ZOMBIE DREDD!!!!!!!

Block armies, various minis that could be added to a Citi-Def box set to make them sutable for a Block scenario. rag tag civs armed with various weapons to flesh out a Citi-def set.
maybe even having some transfers made up to be able to be placed on their backs depicting various "Blocks"

another idea to add to Wally,council and chief could be tokens of some kind that would aid in playing the game from a can of BOING to capture the Dark judges, to various status counters [eg riot foam, place a marker beside or under the effected model to remind you they can not do anything this turn] Riot foam neutralizer [eg a can of spray painted in a particular colour to denote its a neutralizer, could use the same token as BOING]

I still think if your adding in the Rouge trooper with a south and Nort soldier at least add in the Traitor General and give us the option to buy more of the south and nort troopers. enough to make a squad and we could simply use the Block wars rules to play them until the offical Rogue Trooper rules come out.

with so many KS projects out there currently offering more and more "buy EXTRA stuff" it has been hard on the funds and the $$ can only go so far or on a few things. I am already looking at reducing my pledge on another KS project or even dropping it as its turing into a cash cow.

also it is hard on those pledgers who live outside of the U.S [considering its the currencey used by all KS] as we have to deal with our exchange rate which isn't fun. $180USD [Wally+Lawmaker+judge dredd] is $217NZD the bonus for me is NO postage costs. So the money I would normally add to it is now spent on mins. I understand Moongoose has to make a profit, but I hope there won't be to many more please "pay $XX to get this item that you really must have or else your game will suck." = cash cow.

I don't mind paying some thing extra but when its done on SO MANY items it gets a bit over the top. and the amount your paying starts to spiral.

If you're happy with what's offered at your pledge level, then just be happy with that. Your game isn't going to "suck" if you don't have a Pat-Wagon, or all 4 variants. If you buy anything from something aside from a local importer or FLGS, you're dealing with US$ or UKP. Both of which (even with shipping) will usually be shedloads cheaper than local prices.

Not sure what you mean by "cash cow" - but I'm assuming you're talking about DreadBall - but mate, - it's just a board game with miniatures. You can just buy the boxed set at retail and you've got enough to play. You seem to be saying that you "need" all of the extras "or your game will suck". Do you actually need all 8 (or whatever) teams along with coaches, star players, trophies, and alternative boards? Of course not. I mean, do you have every single Warmahordes model released? Or (insert same argument for the other systems and rulesets you play, 6mm WW2, ACw, etc etc). Sure it's very easy to get caught up in a Kickstarter frenzy, but just remember to breathe deeply, step back, check your pledge level and see if you're happy with whats in it wiout looking at any extras or add-ons.

Back to this KS.. I don't see ANY "required add-ons" here. If you want the $5 Dredd, or the Brit-Cit judges, they're extras because they're different and separate pledge levels. Just like the RPG books.




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Vain - Even if they can't be added a la carte, at worst the named characters will all be available after the kickstarter as individuals.

@scipio.au your vision is to the point and made it clear to me I will be reducing my pledge on said mentioned qouted KS.
the felling of having to get this and that is quite often felt on large KS projects. Cash cow is where you have a lot of add-ons that require extra cash to get. [this is used to get some quick cash] these may or may not add value to the game but they are there and you really do get the feeling the game will suck with out them.

I think I do suffer from some form of KS OCD. I just was trying to convey that I hope the jugde Dredd KS does not become a cash cow.

I am hooked now and hoping we get to $30k goal so we can have the Rouge Trooper and ABC warriors.

Cheers
LGW

I just hope that the hype justifies the efforts, and we don't go back down some roads already traveled.

"80 % better...."

" It was someone elses fault...."

"Its because of the manufacturer..."

The game will not suck without all of the lickies and chewies. If you want to get down to brass tacks, this stuff is already on preorder over at FRP, and will be available retail, all in good time. Good move on using the KS to build up the hype though. The stuff has a good standing right now, and unless we go back down some already traveled bad road, we see a definate improvement over the past.

I will give credit where it is due, and I see that this KS is a nice step in the right direction.

I am honestly interested, and am going to go out on a limb and drop on 300 bones for this. I like JD, and the 2000AD magazine, almost as much as Heavy Metal. Mongoose has a long way to go for me personally, but this game is looking like they actually have a plan and are going forward with it in trying to gain some lost ground.

Though I still have some mixed feelings over it, good luck in the KS, I like what I see, irregardless of the "GIMME, GIMMES!!!" out here.


A fine looking rerelease of the miniatures gig from you, Mongoose, I hope it goes well.

Thank you, Grot 6, that is appreciated.

only $799 to go and we get ABC Warriors and Rogue Trooper

Come on lets do it.... its soooo CLOSE!!!!!

LGW

30,000 passed.

Gimme, Gimme,Gimme!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJOphc0BD3w&feature=related

I know!!!

bring on the next goal lets see what other goodies we can get.

LGW

Its only 8:30a over there, I'm sure Matt has to get his morning Coffee, answer my e-mails, and then he'll post an update.

 Cyporiean wrote:
Its only 8:30a over there, I'm sure Matt has to get his morning Coffee, answer my e-mails, and then he'll post an update.

lol well its 7:25pm in my neck of the woods. still looking forward to seeing whats going to come next.

LGW

I want me some new stretch goals, gimme! gimme!

The next goals have just gone up on the Kickstarter. The first is a Specialist Judges box and the second is an International Judges box

We were flabbergasted this morning to come into the office and see you had blown through two stretch goals over the weekend! We really thought it would take a little longer, hence the slight delay in getting the next stretch goals up!

Anyway, the ABC Warriors and Rogue Trooper are now yours - or, at least, they will be in a short while!

We have had lots of suggestions for the next stretch goals and, in the end, we selected two.

First up, if we are lucky enough to have your support to $35,000, we will add a brand new box set covering Specialist Judges - there will be new poses for Med and Tek-Judges in there, as well as Female SJS and Exorcist Judges, and brand new Heavy Weapons and Flying Squad Judges!

If you are still hungry for more Justice Department goodness, the stretch goal after that w ill be a Judges of the World set, eight judges from different Mega-Cities around the globe. They will all have entires in Block War, meaning you can bring an 'exchange programme' judge onto your side at any time!

In addition, a little later this week, we will be adding a little thank you reward to several pledge levels - just a little something we have been working on that is not really big enough to be a stretch goal, but a lot of you have been asking for it and so we wanted to add it by way of thanking you all for your support thus far.

In other news, we are also updating Block War this week with more content, and we have started the process of commissioning the new models from the stretch goals. We have Stephen May (the gentleman behind the recent Brit-Cit Judges) working on a Citi-Def Squad, and Gary Morely is about to be given some of the 'character' models. We are hoping to have pictures of greens of some or all of these before Kickstarter's end, so you can see exactly what you will be getting, along with news that plenty more models have been commissioned - so you won't have to wait long for your goodies!

Sandrine is, unfortunately, ill today (nothing too serious), but when she comes back, I believe she will have a Riot Wagon to display to you all!

Somebody beat me to it

I should also mention, there is a new Sector Chief pledge level at $500, as suggested by a backer to give you a midway point between Council of Judges and Chief Judge.

I'm confused as to why anyone would go for the new level though... Unless I'm missing something you can get everything in the Sector Chief level for $30 cheaper by buying it all separately?

Council of Judges ($300) + Rulebook ($30) + 3 extra Pat Wagons ($120) + Lawmaster ($20) = $470

I must say I'm really looking forward to my paycheck so i can throw down on this bad boy kickstarter.

 Surtur wrote:
I must say I'm really looking forward to my paycheck so i can throw down on this bad boy kickstarter.

Kickstarter doesn't charge until the campaign ends.

Thinking that we have plenty of "Good guys" to use in the Dredd game but what about baddies:

Do we need more? and if so WHOM should we push to get added?

Also I'd love to get a box of Perps. you know cheap minis we can use to arrest or run down on our Lawmakers. they can be armed or unarmed what ever takes your fancy
10 or so in a box, or do unarmed civs 10-15 in a box so we can use as meat shields or have to try and save.

what else are we wanting for this game?

LGW

Greywolf, obviously we need some TotalWar, some random perps etc.

Though I do love the idea of a box of cits for objectives.

 Vain wrote:
Greywolf, obviously we need some TotalWar, some random perps etc.

Though I do love the idea of a box of cits for objectives.

VAIN!!!!!!!

great minds think alike.

I see this game getting big with tanks, pat wagons, bikes, and huge squads all in a big mass of rumbling bashing melee or in some kind of firework infected fire fight with Lawgivers, lasrifles and other zap sounding weapons.

can't wait to see what else will come of this project.

Cheers
LGW

Two new items for you today.

First, we have added a new Kickstarter-only set - you will not be able to get these models as a single collection after the Kickstarter! Due to popular demand, we have added a Justice Department II choice, which gives you Judge Dekker, Chief Judge Caligula, the Academy of Law Tutor, Judge Dredd 1 and 2, SJS Judge, Cadet Judge and Female Cadet Judge in one handy package.

You are free to select this as one of your box set choices, if your pledge level gives you set choices, and it is being added to Council of Judges, Sector Chief, and Chief Judge levels automatically..

Second, many of you have asked us to a) provide a good view of the models in existing box sets and b) put back the concept art for the new sets.

You can get a poster of all these sets at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/boximages.jpg

 Cyporiean wrote:

 Surtur wrote:
I must say I'm really looking forward to my paycheck so i can throw down on this bad boy kickstarter.

Kickstarter doesn't charge until the campaign ends.

Really? Well then, SUPPORTED!


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Would somone donate another $750? I'd like some more stuff with my stuff!

Another stretch goal has fallen, and specialist judges will be gracing tabletops all over the world - many thanks for your support in this.

We have a fair bit of news for you today!

1. A new stretch goal has been added. If your kind support can extend to $45,000, we will be adding four models from the Doomsday for Mega-City One storyline; Nero, two Assassin Droids, and Chief Judge Hershey. These models will be added to the Sector Chief and Chief Judge pledge levels.

2. If you are all wanting more after that, we are beginning to prep another stretch level, which will introduce some extremely well-known bad guys (and gals!) of Mega-City One to the range. More news on this if we pass the current stretch goal.

3. We have been overwhelmed by the support this project has enjoyed so far, so we wanted to give something back. To that end, we will be creating 'weapon packs,' selections of weapons from the comics that you can use in dioramas, on bases, or conversions to equip your forces as you see fit. We have not yet collated all the weapons that will be appearing, but there will at least be Close Combat, Pistol, Rifle, and Justice Department weapon packs, and maybe more! If you want your judges armed with Stub Guns or the Mk I Lawgiver, or want to beef up your Fatties (!), this will be an easy way to do it! We will be adding at least one weapon pack (and maybe more!) to every pledge level from Street Judge upwards. No need to do anything, you will find these goodies in the package(s) we send you.

4. Something for you all to think about. From the time we get actual miniatures in our hands to the time we have an actual box set can be a month or more. So, you have a choice whether to receive the miniatures as soon as we can get them to you, or wait for the actual box set to be made. No need to decide now, but it is something we will be asking at the end of the Kickstarter. All depends how badly you need to get your hands on your new models!

5. Finally, we have added a new pledge level, Med-Judge at $900. This is a very special (and limited) reward as we will, on your orders, be commissioning one of our painters to paint any one box set you choose to Studio Level. The models these guys are capable of are exquisite, and you will not be disappointed with the results. It will take a little time to do this, of course, and so we have limited this to just 16 backers for now. However, if you want the finest Judge Dredd models in your block, this is the way to go.

We still have lots coming up in this Kickstarter project, from rulebook and Block War supplement updates, to new models being unveiled, to maybe another freebie a little later on down the road. Our grateful thanks to everyone who has joined us thus far - we really appreciate your support and you are certainly helping to make the Judge Dredd miniatures game one of the best supported of its type.


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The Brit-Cit Judges, including a Detective Judge, are now available for mail order.

The Brit-Cit Justice Department, officially referred to as Her Majesty’s Justice Department (HMJD), maintains law and order in and around Brit-Cit. It is led by the Chief Judiciary and answerable to Parliament. The judges of Brit-Cit share much in common with their counterparts in Mega-City One, having similar uniforms and close diplomatic ties. However, the two have many differences in operational procedure and administration.

You can find out more at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/brit-cit.html

We have also brought back the Cadet Judge from our original Judge Dredd range, now known as Cadet Judge 2.

Only $3k left until judges of the world, wow! For a niche the kickstarter seems to be doing quite well.

A quick break from the Judge Dredd Kickstarter, as we unveil new ships for our two A Call to Arms games.

We have a variety of new ships now available for Noble Armada, with reinforcements for the Noble Houses, and the technologically advanced Church fleet.

No single institution has as much impact on day-to-day life in the Known Worlds than does the Church. Despite the Church’s many factions and sects, the average peasant sees it as a giant monolith, dedicated to saving humanity from the evil inherent in the universe. As far as commoners can tell, all priests, bishops, archbishops and patriarchs work toward the same goal, hand-in-hand, fighting evil together. Never mind the fact that they call one another heretics; the Church itself is good. The peasants’ view only changes when someone tries to replace the sect of their ancestors with a new one.

You can see the new Church fleet at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/noble-armada/churchfleet.html

We have also just released the Decados Michaelangelo Light Cruiser, and House Li Halan now has access to the Ananda Martyr Fighter, capable of wrecking even large warships in a collision!

For A Call to Arms: Star Fleet, we have just unveiled the Gorn fleet, with all new ship designs. You can see them at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/ctastarfleet/confederation-of-the-gorn.html

well we got another goal.

The World judges are ours. now onto the next goal.....mmmmm

Been scooped again

Another stretch goal fell this morning - thank you for your support in that. The Judges of the World set will now be added to the range, bringing a distinctly international flavour to the game!

Next up is a stretch goal for characters from the Doomsday for Mega-City One storyline, including two Assassin Droids, Nero himself, and Chief Judge Hershey. We have added Hershey to several of the pledge levels now, so many more people will be able to enjoy what will be a great looking miniature (graphics for the pledge levels will be updated on Monday).

Sandrine is unfortunately ill again today, so I cannot showcase what she is currently working on - that will come next week. So, instead, I will reveal the next stretch goal, one that (with your continued support) will bring some of the worst and most notable villains to bring disaster to citizens of Mega-City One.

It is a great line up; Warmarshal Kazan, Blanche Tatum (as the Executioner, many of you have been asking for an alternative to Megaman for the Lone Vigilante!), Rico Dredd (fresh from Titan!), Sabbat, the Judge Child, Oola Blint (now that will be a fine looking miniature!), Kenny Who?, Chopper (as the Midnight Surfer) and Stan Lee.

These models will be added to the Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels, but the Street Judge and Wally Squad levels will get their choice of any one of these miniatures, while the Council of Judges level will get a choice of three!

I'll be about to answer comments over the weekend, though there won't be a formal update until Monday afternoon. I'll be spending the weekend working on the final updates to the Judge Dredd miniatures game rulebook (constantly fiddling with games is a Games Designer's disease!), and adding more material to Block War. You will be able to download the results to both of these, for free, next week.

No Deputy Chief Judge Fish?

Not sure I would call him an ultimate villain.... Conspirator, maybe?

Either way we have broken the Doomsday stretch goal with a current amount of $45,267

Roll on Matt, roll on.

Another stretch goal has just been past - thank you all very much for your support thus far. Nero and his assassin robots will soon be making an appearence in Mega-City One!

A few things for you in this update...

Sandrine remains ill (nothing too serious, just debilitating), and so some of the vehicles and other accessories I was hoping to show you by now will have to wait a little longer.

However, this does mean we are going ahead with the next stretch goal, and it is for something we know a lot of you have been after - the Mechanismo robots! We will be creating four of these monsters/earnest Law enforcers (depends on your point of view!), covering the Mk I, MK II and Mk IIa variants. Even if you won't allow them on the streets of Mega-City One, they are just perfect for risky missions in the Cursed Earth, Undercity, or alien worlds!

We have also managed to update the Block War supplement. You can grab it here as normal...

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/jdblockwar.pdf

...and you will find some new weaponry, new Mercenaries, and a whole new force - we are showcasing the East Meg Invasion Force for the first time! A perfect foe for both the Justice Department and the Citi-Def (and any punk who objects to invaders on his turf, for that matter...).

We have quite a few things lined up for you this week, including the last update (it really will be the last this time!) of the main rulebook. Could not resist just a few tweaks here and there, and you are going to like what we have done with Talents!

So, stay tuned, and keep an eye out for these updates, as we will have a few surprises and 'cool things' for you!

yeah,
Increased my pledge.
All these additions look great.

Panic...

We have been beavering away on the Judge Dredd miniatures game and Block War today. Most notably, we now have working rules for BIG battles in Dredd and, better than that, specific scenarios to handle Block Wars (up to three players, with a normal force caught between two rival blocks!), last stands in the Cursed Earth, and the Zombie Apocalypse!

We are doing a few more updates to Block War, but you will see all of these a little later in the week.

Second, we have added a new pledge level - Troggie! This is a $4 pledge, but gives you any one model of your choice from the current Judge Dredd range, so you can round out your collection. You can see the list of available models at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/jdsingles.pdf

You can, of course, pledge for more than one model, or add to your existing pledge if there are specific models you are after - simply add $4 for each extra model!

Finally, we have added the Weapon Packs to various pledge levels - these are collections of 4-6 weapons from the game that you can snip off and add to existing models, allowing you to customise them as you see fit. Street Judges will get one random weapon pack, Wally Squads and Council of Judges three, and Sector Chiefs and Chief Judges five - no stretch goals to meet, we just wanted to add these as a token of our appreciation for your support thus far!

Alright. I'm in.

I have to admit that the movie was much, much better than I thought it was going to be. And Mongoose looks like it has its act together.

But first I just need to get a few answers to burning questions. Mongoose Matt, a PM is heading your way.

We are so tantalisingly close to seeing the ultimate Lawbreakers stretch goal added to Mega-City One!

Just a quick update today.

The Block War supplement itself has been updated, with new rules and scenarios covering what the supplement is really all about - Block Wars!

Actually, the rules for Mobs we have added can be used in a whole range of games, from your normal campaign battles (if you have enough Minions), to last stands in the Cursed Earth, brave defences against hordes of zombies and, well, block wars! In fact, if you really want to go mad, we have made provision for two blocks to go at one another, with another force (we suggest judges!) caught in the middle.

Good luck with that one!

You can download the latest version of Block War from;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/rulebook.html


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Got some Victory at Sea news as well...

We are very proud to be able to show off the first of the new 1/1800 Victory at Sea ships – HMS Exeter!

These models are the product of Sandrine Thirache, who has been toiling for more than 18 months now, researching the warships of World War II (with the ever-present help of our Official Naval Boffins), locating accurate deck plans, and then using all of that to build lovely 3D models of each vessel.

We are just beginning to ramp up production of the Victory at Sea line, though if you are attending SELWG this month, we will likely have a small number of Exeters, Achilles, and Graf Spees waiting for you. More ships are being prototyped right now, and it will not be long before you can have a full-raging sea battle between these great looking ships.

Planet Mongoose has the full story at http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/?p=413

The images for Victory at Sea stuff, are pretty small,

and you can't enlarge them by clickig on them

probably worth making them larger (or at least letting us click through to larger versions)

as it's hard to apreciate the detail you're describing and if you're selling them on detail/accuracy we need a better look

Click twice

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

as it's hard to apreciate the detail you're describing and if you're selling them on detail/accuracy we need a better look

Umm, let me see if I have this right...



There you go!

Cheers Matt

Very nice

(and the site seems to let me view them large too now, but that could as I'm home on a more up to date browse than they have at work)

Mongoose has recently changed the rates charged for shipping mail orders. It should now be both simpler and cheaper for all customers.

UK Orders
UK addresses will have a flat rate of £4 applied to all orders, with free shipping provided on orders over £100.

US Orders
US addresses will have a flat rate of $8 applied to all orders, with free shipping provided on orders over $150.

Rest of the World
Addresses for any other countries will have a flat rate of £8 applied to all orders. No free shipping for overseas orders as yet, but we are working on it!

Probably time to get another stretch goal up! Is it just me or do the $5k ones seem to get knocked over more than twice as fast as the $10k ones?

Fun fact for the curious, right now the average pledge is $121.28.

We are now in the last few days of the Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter - thank you for all your support thus far.

There are a few goodies to be revealed this week, as we have been busy beavering away on the new models this month, and first to be unveiled are the boys from the Citi-Def Squad.



Sculptor Stepehn May (the gentleman behind the recent Brit-Cit Judges) has worked on these eight models, which form a new force in the Judge Dredd miniatures game (you can see them already in the Block War supplement) and a forthcoming box set. Those pledging for this Kickstarter will be the first to get their hands on them (along with a lot of other models!).

The set contains two Citi-Def Soldiers, armed with Spit Guns - these are real Judge-killers, but players will soon find these part-time soldiers do not really know the meaning of 'cease fire!' For that, you will be needing a Citi-Def Officer, to the right of the two soldiers, a citizen of Mega-City One whose tactics revolve primarily around shouting! Next to him, the soldier with the Missile Launcher tends to be a bit more disciplined, but then we move to the bottom row and the complete opposite - the Citi-Def Soldier on the far left has watched way too many action vids, and is blazing away with a Spit Pistol in each hand!

Next to him is the Jaeger Squad Commando, a truly dedicated member of the Citi-Def, who is either incredibly skilled and well-trained, or just plain crazy. It all depends on your point of view.

The Medic is a useful chap, though he does not really appreciate all the heavy weaponry he is surrounded by. This model shows him under fire, wondering just why he signed up for the Citi-Def as an alternative to boredom! Finally, we have the second Heavy Weapons Soldier, armed here with a Laser Cannon but coming with the option of a Heavy Spit Gun.

All are ready to defend Mega-City One (or just their own block) against an attacker, and all are capable of doing far more damage to the city than any invading force...

You can still get involved with the Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter at http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1990654819/judge-dredd-miniatures-game-block-war

Okay, we have some very good news for you today.

Below, you will see a montage of various Works in Progress from the desk of Shane Hoyle.

Those of you who have been collecting the Judge Dredd miniatures range for a while will have no need of introduction for Shane Hoyle (Mr Shane Hoyle, once you get to see his work up close). He is the gentleman responsible for the Ape Gang, Judges Dekker, Inaba, Caligula, and many others in the range. 2000AD stories fill his soul, and this becomes very apparent once you see his work - his models just ooze the spirit of the comic strips.

Anyway, our Sov spies infiltrated his hidden bunker and have not only reported that he will be working on several new 2000AD projects with us, but that some are already in advanced states of completion - and pictures have been taken!

Many Sov spies died to bring us this information...

Anyway, on to the models! Going from left to right, top to bottom, the first is going to be a favourite for many - Judge Death himself, joined by Judge Mortis. The other Dark Judges are also in progress, and these guys are destined to be a force to reckon with on the tabletop!



Next to them is, of course, Nemesis the Warlock (with Grobbendonk). Now, this doesn't actually have anything to do with this Kickstarter, but we thought that, even as a Work in Progress, this was such a lovely model, we just had to show you! We are pleading with Shane to finish this one so we can get it to all of you, but it is likely to be a while. Consider this a cruel tease!

On the bottom row, we have a brand new Klegg in the offing, with a choice of head, so you can start to get your own alien invasion horde together. Next to him, a new street judge that will be another that can take a variety of weapons - more information on what those will be at a later date. Regretfully, while Judge Death and his cohorts are part of this Kickstarter, these two models will not be (there is only so much time to get these prepped and done, and the priority is for the stretch goals you chaps have already passed!). However, there will be plenty of opportunities to get your hands on them at a later date.

Do not be too depressed about that though - last up is a picture of a fully painted Walter the Wobot, who will be coming to a great many of you as part of your pledge rewards! This is actually not a Shane model, but it seemed a shame not to squeeze him in. Modelled in 3D by Sandrine Thirache (she behind the Manta Prowl Tank and Pat Wagons), it has been given the master touch by Ari Nielsson.

I'm really liking the Nemesis figure (and the others of course). That's a definite purchase as soon as he's out

yeah,
Very exciting, the dark judges look great.
Planning to make a force of dark judges plus regular judges from dark world to flesh out their list so loving the pterodactyl shoulder pad.

I've scanned through the rule books and might of missed them but couldn't see rules for the dark judges? are they getting updated with rules later?

Panic...

The Dark Judges are indeed going to be getting new rules in the Block War supplement. Expect extreme sickness!

 endtransmission wrote:
I'm really liking the Nemesis figure (and the others of course). That's a definite purchase as soon as he's out

Indeed.

Yell when that model is available please.

My demons/chaos can always do with new characters.

Less than three days to go for the Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter to complete, and we have been fairly overwhelmed by all the kind support you guys have shown for these miniatures. As you will have seen earlier today, we have been busy in the background, beavering away on the first of these new models, and the Citi-Def are complete, the Zombie Horde will be with us soon, and the Dark Judges are well on their way!

Just wanted to stop by and introduce another stretch goal, as we are veering very close to seeing the Mechanismo robots walk the streets of Mega-City One. This time, it focusses on another angle of the game we wanted to introduce in the Block War supplement, the Roadway Duel! This will see full rules for the Megway, where forces clamber on board vehicles and take the fight up to speeds well over 200 mph!

We already have the Lawmaster (the model of which arrived today and is already off to be painted, so keep your eyes peeled!), Pat Wagon and Manta, so we decided to populate the roads further.

First up is a Ground Car, a fast model enjoyed by the richer citizens of Mega-City One, and often stolen by perps for their getaways. Then we have a large Mo-Pad, a great target for a highway robbery - or a superb conversion into a mobile battle fortress!

Just to explain that last part, in Block War, you can either use vehicles as Mercenaries, simply bringing them in to the game as you need them, or you can purchase them to become a permanent part of your force - in which case they can be upgraded and customised!

Now, it might seem the Justice Department is going to be a bit outnumbered on the roads (because, obviously, an armoured Pat Wagon is just not enough...), so we are also adding the Banshee, the judges' own lightweight interceptor vehicle!


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Just seen, the Mechanismo stretch goal has been passed! Cheers for that!

Just a mini-update at the moment, as we may well have another a little later today...

First up, the Block War supplement has had an update, and is ready for you to download from;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/jdblockwar.pdf

This time around, we have cleaned up a few of the questions some of you had about the new rules, and added two complete new forces. First up is the Apocalypse War Resistance Unit (thanks to Da Boss on our forums for the idea), a mixture of judges, Citi-Def and punks with very little ammunition, determined to hold out against the East Meggers!

Then there is the Demonic Cabal, one I have been looking forard to messing around with! Now, this force list is very new and should be considered 'provisional' only, as it needs a great deal of playtesting to lock the summoning rules down (and maybe add a few more 'entities!'). But, have a go, as it should be a fun force to play - you will never quite know exactly how a game is going to go with these guys!

Finally, another preview - from the talented hands of Stephen May, a Zombie Judge, which will allow you to take advantage of the heavy armour option in the Zombie Horde force list!






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Just a quick update before the end of the day (we should have an update for you tomorrow on the main rulebook)...

If, in the last hours of this Kickstarter project, we can count on your support to $70,000, we will add three Heroes of Mega-City One; Judge Giant, Fergee and a Judge from the Space Corps. The first two have been instrumental in literally saving the city, while the unknown judge from the Space Corps keeps a constant, vigilant eye out for threats beyond the Earth.

Rookie and Street Judge level pledges will each receive a choice of one of these fine Heroes. Wally Squad, Council of Judges, Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels will automatically receive all three!

Great zombie judge! Don't think I will put money into the ks but I might get some when they hit retail. Very interested in the vehicles as well!

MongooseMatt wrote:

If, in the last hours of this Kickstarter project, we can count on your support to $70,000, we will add three Heroes of Mega-City One; Judge Giant, Fergee and a Judge from the Space Corps.

$70k is gone and there's 50 hours/2 days to go. Better get another few stretch goals ready - especially if you like money!

Two stretch goals fell overnight, which fairly surprised us here at Mongoose. Our heartfelt gratitude for that, there will now be new Heroes in Mega-City One and a range of vehicles to hit the streets! I know many of you were wondering what was coming next, so...

If we can count on your support up to $80,000, we have something quite special for you all. First off, we will introduce not two, not three, but four new box sets, each featuring a biker gang so you can take to the Megways among the ground cars, mo-pads and Lawmasters, and wreck havoc at over 200 mph! We will add a Street Gang (punks and juves) on bikes, an Ape Biker Gang (okay, okay, I admit, that one is an addition made purely for myself!), Renegade Robots on Bikes and, finally, Zombies on Bikes (with Zombie Master/Mistress)!

These sets will be added as choices for Rookie, Street Judge and Wally Squad levels. The Council of Judges pledges will receive one Biker set of their choice in addition to everything else (and can still choose others as part of their box set options). Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels will automatically receive all four!

But that is not all... We will also do the legendary biker Spikes Harvey Rotten on a Lawmaster, as featured on his trip with Dredd across the Cursed Earth. He will be added to the Council of Judges, Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels.

And that is not all either! If we pass the $80,000 mark, we will send an electronic copy of the Judge Dredd RPG core book (which is a lovely read, even if you are not a roleplayer) to everyone who has pledged more than $100, regardless of actual pledge level - just our way of saying thank you very, very much for all your support. Judge Dredd started off as a 'community' game, and your help in boosting both its range and profile, not to mention the ideas many of you have contributed to the game itself, is appreciated beyond words here at Mongoose HQ. Thank you.

Finally, we are not setting it as an 'official' stretch goal just yet but, if we pass the Biker Gangs, we will set a final stretch goal for the Judda, as requested by many of you...

I'd have much preferred to see a "Judges on Lawmasters" box included as one of the biker sets. :(
Is there any way we might be able to "trade out" the non-Judge biker boxed set for a Judges' one? I'm trying to talk a friend into going in at the Council level as well, and there will be a degree of Horse Trading involved.


I had the thought this morning, and it's probably too late now, but you know what would be a cool "kickstarter-only" thing for this? A little metal or resin "Dredd" badge, about 30-40mm high that we could paint up and use as a counter, or use as a keychain trinket, or turn counter, or whatever.

We really did not think the last stretch goal would be passed last night - but you guys rallied behind it and shot past it! Our grateful thanks for that.

So, in the last 20 hours or so of the Judge Dredd Kickstarter (finishes a little after 9:30am Saturday morning, UK time!), I think we have time for one last stretch goal!

If we can count on your kind support to take this project up to $95,000, we will add three of the Judda to Council of Judges, Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels. Perfect for teleporting into the Hall of Justice and creating havoc with Mega-City One Judges!

However, that is not all. We will also add another model from the same storyline, albeit one half world away - Oz Judge Bruce, mounted on his trike! Bruce and Trike will be added to Sector Chief and Chief Judge levels.

Once again, many thanks for your kind support thus far, you are making the Judge Dredd miniatures game into what we always hoped it could be!

Getting close to the end of this campaign with just over 2 hours left, they've already managed to surpassed their 'final' stretch goal too.

Im a little disappointed that something special hasn't been added for the big $100,000 milestone, a KS exclusive Dredd model would've been a great way to end the campaign.

Mr Gutsy wrote:

Im a little disappointed that something special hasn't been added for the big $100,000 milestone, a KS exclusive Dredd model would've been a great way to end the campaign.

Honestly, we never expected it to get that far - we were really doubtful the last stretch goal would be passed!

Still, lesson learned...

Yeah!
Congrats on the 100K !

How do I add extra miniatures to my order like the zombie judge?
I'm in no rush to get my miniatures as I'm waiting for the dark judges.

Panic...

only way currently to get the Zombie Judge is to get the Zombie horde box set.
aslo you will need to email Matthew the email address is on the survey letting him know what swaps you will be doing.

Cheers
LGW

Eeee waiting or my stuff.

If this KS did anything for me, it gave me a chance to learn how to forgive just a little.

As of now, I am very impressed with Mongoose's handling of the KS, and the evolution of the sculpts that they have developed for the game.

Though I still have a few... apprehensions about them, I will definatly be playing this game and digging out a few of my old comic books when I go back.


All in all, congratz on the KS Matt. I will be adding in a couple of the singles and some other stuff, and am very interested in the future of this game.


and- while waiting I will be digging back into the worlds of the 2000AD magazine/ website.

 Lord GreyWolf wrote:
only way currently to get the Zombie Judge is to get the Zombie horde box set.
aslo you will need to email Matthew the email address is on the survey letting him know what swaps you will be doing.

Cheers
LGW

That Zombie Judge is in the Zombie boxset? Excellent!

Hm, I might get some extra Judge boxes to do some cut and swaps with some Mantic, GW and Studio Miniatures zombies to flesh out the Judge Horde...

The Judge Dredd: Block War Kickstarter project is now complete and funded far beyond our initial expectations. Our deepest thanks to everyone who supported us, made comments and suggestions, and generally joined in! We did not expect this Kickstarter to be this popular, and you have our grateful appreciation - the future for the Judge Dredd miniatures game is bright!

I would also like to thank Ben Smith and the rest of the team at 2000AD, as well as Jason Kingsley, CEO of parent company Rebellion, for letting us take Judge Dredd and run with the property on Kickstarter. It was a risk for them to take, and we are grateful they trusted us to handle Mega-City One properly with this project.

We are currently looking to send out at least 90% (barring tragic hiccups) of all these miniatures before Christmas - we'll keep you all updated as to what new models are ready and when they are going out. However, given the success of this Kickstarter, I think it is pretty inevitable that we will do another. We have been chatting to some of the guys behind some of our RPGs about doing something in that area, and a poll on our forums is telling us that a Rogue Trooper miniatures game would be popular. First things first, though - over the next couple of months we will be working hard to complete the Block War supplement and get all your miniatures out to you.

We will be taking the policy of 'greatest number of models to the greatest number of people in the shortest time' when fulfilling all your pledges. So, while models will start shipping on Monday, it may be 3-4 weeks before everyone starts seeing something. We started manufacturing our existing models at the start of the Kickstarter but the sudden rush at the end means we have to make many more! This will start on Monday as well. However, we will be sending out models as soon as we have them in hand, so if you went for a pledge with as-yet-unmade models, you may end up receiving several packages, each going out as soon as we have something to send you.

This policy will also be used when making the new models. For example, both Spikes and Bruce were very late stretch goals. However, Spikes will likely be made very early on, as we just need a single model of him to go on the existing Lawmaster. Bruce, on the other hand, requires not just a rider but a brand new Trike, so he may well be one of the last models we commission. Like I said, greatest number of models in the shortest time.

The Kickstarter may be complete, but the Judge Dredd miniatures game goes on. Most of the discussion for the game (including news of updates and new models) takes place on our forums at http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/

Oh, and we have the newest revision of the main rulebook for the Judge Dredd miniatures game. You can grab it at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/jdmg.pdf

Finally, we have started to work through all your rewards, and work out who needs what - we did not have a huge amount of time this Monday morning before the postman arrived, but we managed to get a whole 17 parcels out the door!

A better way of looking at it, though, is that we have processed (figures out who wants want, now just needs sending/casting/sculpting) over 600 of you today, so... nearly all The rest will be processed by the end of this week (so long as you get your surveys in!), and imagine we will be shipping something out in connection with this Kickstarter pretty much every day for the next couple of months.

So, some of you will start to see your items from tomorrow, others may see their first items in a couple of weeks or so.

Once again, thank you all for your support, and we hope to see you in the future on the Judge Dredd miniatures game forum and the events we will be running.

Congrats on the successful Kickstarter.

Rather then bug you in an e-mail (I'd have to switch tabs!)... Any chance of a a 'Cinematic Dredd' mini, ala the 2012 film?

yeah,
Smashing stuff!
Your way ahead of my expectations, I wasn't expecting to see any of my pledge this year!

It was nice to see you at SELWG 2012 yesterday and I enjoyed our brief chat.

Panic...

 Cyporiean wrote:

Rather then bug you in an e-mail (I'd have to switch tabs!)... Any chance of a a 'Cinematic Dredd' mini, ala the 2012 film?

Not any time soon - we have been asked to stay away from that for now and, in any case, it is not as if we have not got enough to be getting on with

Matt - will you be sending out a questionnaire so people can specify which Pat-Wagon variants they want as well?

Surveys have already gone out - if you have not seen one, contact me directly!

I sent my survey and email explaining my swaps...

now I just got to wait and see if the postie brings me some goodies soon...very soon?

Went in at wally squad, then a rare bolt of sensible+1 struck and I downgraded to tek-judge + rookie. Then after sending the survey decided that yeah, I did want wally squad and paypal'd Couldn't decide on what boxes I wanted, so e-mailed Matt this morning to see if I could upgrade the extra to Council level, and did so

And then grabbed a few singles from the webstore to round things out a bit.

I have to ignore kickstarters from now on


On a more positive side I'm thinking that a huge bunch of shiny Dredd stuff may just get me and my mate back into gaming. And the prospect of Rogue Trooper, or better yet Nemesis games...Ohh Yeah!

But my wallet needs to recover first.


And well done on getting stuff out so quickly Matt

Just remember, those Judge models can always do double duty as Arbites!

Indeed - and plenty of opportunities for the gangers and robots too. I was originally basing my choices on conversion potential - but then decided I wanted my own MC-1. I'll have plenty of dreadball and dreamforge stuff to chop

If anyone needs cheap gangers or civilians, do an ebay search for "Dredd Street Gang". There's an ebay seller selling the plastic street gang box set for 2.99 each. I bought four.

yeah,
Looks like these are from and old Mongoose board game 'Gangs of mega city one'.

I found these photos on Board game geek... the paint job is poor so can't 'judge' the minis fairly...


My GoogleFu is weak and can't find a good photo of the sprue. just this one...


Panic...

Yeah, I used to have it and demo'ed it when I was in Mongoose Infantry (their demo team). The sculpts are not that great, but they are TOTALLY worth $2.99 for a gang of 12 to use for MC-1 civilians. And they all have fashionable kneepads!

Why don't they get the guy who did this figure to sculpt the range?

Yes please!

Wow, yeah. That figure looks like something I'd actually be interested in... unlike many of these that the 80's are calling to come back

Ah, found it. He's a charity model available for a donation on one of these two pages:

http://www.justgiving.com/CharityMinty1

https://www.justgiving.com/CharityMinty2

Then, and this is important because it has changed from previous years, send an e-mail to charitymini AT gmail DOT com

Please include:
Your Name.
Your Address.
Your Just Giving receipt reference number
How many you would like
and whether you would prefer the metal version or the Trollcast version

For those not in the know, 'Trollcast' is a revolutionary plastic/resin hybrid.

How Much Do They Cost? The size of donation is entirely up to you, however, I'd suggest if you want multiple copies that £15 per mini would be about right.

The perfect addition for anyone's Judge force

yeah,
I bought one.
This is a great way to get the hobby involved with charity.

We pay £15 for a mini.
The whole £15 goes to charity and the dude sends you the mini out of his own pocket. Top Bloke.

OK I found the extra info at CellarOfDredd

All that is required is a minimum of at least £15 for one of the figures.

All you have to do after giving your money is send an email to charitymini@gmail.com and include the following pieces of information:-

Name

Address

Just Giving receipt reference number

How many you would like and please specify which type!

As an extra incentive there has been something extra added!

If you donate a minimum of £25 or more, you will additionally get a project-exclusive resin display base for their miniature.

It doesn't stop there, if you donate £35 or more, you will additionally get a miniature version of the Judge Minty sign. Yes the sign that is resident in the Cellar of Dredd.

if you are allowed to make a GIFT AID donation then drokkin' well do it. It costs nothing but adds extra money to your donation for NOTHING, which can't be bad!

Panic...

How is thed progress going on the Minty film?

saw the test shots, and am still interested.

Good that you found him, I might need one or two.

I got my first batch of Dredd minis today

1x Street Judge #1
1x Street Judge #3
1x JSJ
1x PSI Female Judge
1x Judge Dekker
1x Med Judge
1x Assassin
1x Judge Dredd #1
1x Zombie Misstress
1x Desperado dual weapons
1x Pyroteknic

Only thing missing was Judge Dredd #2... Next I am hoping the 2 boxes of Citi-def will be coming then ABC Warriors and the Dark Judges. plus all of the other bitz and bobs that got added.

will start slapping on some paints over the coming weeks.

Cheers
LGW

 Grot 6 wrote:
How is thed progress going on the Minty film?

saw the test shots, and am still interested.

Good that you found him, I might need one or two.

The Minty film is apparently finished and has a couple of screenings in the UK this month. They are in talks with a couple of film festivals to get it shown there, but the main criteria for this is to not have been shown on the internet. Once those have been dealt with, the film will be released to view on their website.

yeah,
A Painted Judge Minty charity mini popped up on facebook.
It Looks AmazBalls!



Very Nice!

Panic...

Has anyone received a troggie reward yet?

I only specified what I wanted in the survey comments and did not send a follow up email. Should I be worried?

I got all of my Troggies so far only one I missed on was one of my extras Dredd#2

LGW

The first of the new line of super-detailed 1/1800 scale Victory at Sea World War II ships are now available for mail order!

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/victory-at-sea.html?dir=desc&order=position

These ships include HMS Achilles and Exeter, as they appeared in 1939...





And the Graf Spee.



We also have four Fairmile motor boats, the A, B, C, and D.



At the moment, we are just prepping the rest of the Leander, York and Deutschland class ships now (the Victory at Sea range will feature individual ships, not just classes, down to cruiser level), and rapidly following them are all the ships of the Bismarck, Admiral Hipper, Hood, King George V, and Tribal classes - all of these will be available before Christmas.

Many more vessels have already been designed in 3D and are just being prepped for prototyping. It is our intention to grow this line hugely over the next couple of years, including aircraft, sea port facilities and land forces (for coastal invasion scenarios), and have already started work on ships of the Regia Marina, Marine Nationale, US Navy and Imperial Japanese Navy.

Very nice !
Will there be box sets ?

 HudsonD wrote:
Very nice !
Will there be box sets ?

There will, covering both fleets and specific battles!

... Will these boxes be available before Christmas ?

No new updates on the Council pledge levels? Matt's last update was 13 days ago with
"Lots more happening, will update you all where we are in shipping things out next week!"

So I'm starting to wonder if this KS will be slipping to a January+ 2013 arrival time as Sedition Wars and DreamForge has.

 scipio.au wrote:
No new updates on the Council pledge levels? Matt's last update was 13 days ago with
"Lots more happening, will update you all where we are in shipping things out next week!"

So I'm starting to wonder if this KS will be slipping to a January+ 2013 arrival time as Sedition Wars and DreamForge has.

Really aiming not to

We said 95% of everything shipped by the end of the year, and I think that is a very close estimate. Council, Sector and Chief Judge pledges have started shipping this week, and will continue to do so right up to Christmas, I am expecting (there is rather a lot of you, and just about everyone wanted something different ).

Come January, we are expecting to be finishing up the 'odd' orders we got, and turning round the last of the models from our sculptors.

Apologies for lack of update thus far - the storms in the US meant we only just (today!) received two week's worth of restocks, and I figured you chaps would prefer we got stuff out rather than mess around with updates This week's update is going to be delayed for a day or two, as I hope to have a really spiffing preview for you, and some good news for 2000AD fans...

So you're UK based, but the figures are cast in the US?

 scipio.au wrote:
So you're UK based, but the figures are cast in the US?

That is correct - our warehouse and miniatures production facility is in Kettering, Ohio, while we are based in Swindon (Wiltshire).

Here is something of an experiment.

Got a 3D Printer? We have just uploaded HMS Achilles and Walter the Wobot as STL files on Wargame Vault;


http://www.wargamevault.com/product/108286/Walter-the-Wobot
http://www.wargamevault.com/product/108280/HMS-Achilles-1939-1-1800-scale-w-Integrated-Base

If you do not have a 3D Printer, we also have these models (and the MTBs) up on Shapeways;

http://www.shapeways.com/shops/mongoose

Now, I cannot recommend the normal 3D printing here - it is expensive and the final quality will not match the gorgeous miniatures you can get from us. However, if you are looking for a gold-plated or solid silver Achilles or Walter, these are your guys!

We will be posting all of our 3D models on both of these sites as they are released, so by the time you get a 3D printer (well, we will all have them in a few years, right?) there will be a huge choice of Mongoose miniatures available for you!

Got a box from Mongoose today. 6 Boxes of Dredd figures. Leaves 1 of the currently-produced boxed sets outstanding, plus three of the newer ones, plus extras from stretch goals.

My wife's still has 6+4+stretch boxes to come. Hopefully they arrive soon.

Both Walters came, which is a good sign towards them having both of our orders.

Our regular round up of the year, plus peek into next year, is now up on our forums.

You can find the State of the Mongoose 2012 at http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=123

MongooseMatt wrote:
Our regular round up of the year, plus peek into next year, is now up on our forums.

You can find the State of the Mongoose 2012 at http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=123

Permission denied. :(

Thanks for the yearly State of Mongoose. It's always an interesting read on the state of the company and the industry in general.

 Cyporiean wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:
Our regular round up of the year, plus peek into next year, is now up on our forums.

You can find the State of the Mongoose 2012 at http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=123

Permission denied. :(

Try once more, you should be fine now.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 Cyporiean wrote:

MongooseMatt wrote:
Our regular round up of the year, plus peek into next year, is now up on our forums.

You can find the State of the Mongoose 2012 at http://forum.mongoosepublishing.com/viewforum.php?f=123

Permission denied. :(

Try once more, you should be fine now.

Got it

Judge DeMarco and Psi-Judge Anderson are now both available on our web site, bringing some much needed reinforcements to the Justice Department in the Judge Dredd Miniatures game.



You can find both at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/the-justice-department.html?dir=desc&order=position

Another box from Mongoose today. 5 more boxes of Dredd. That's the 7/10 of the produced kits from my pledge sorted. Wife still needs 2x Holocaust Judges and then we're just waiting on the newer boxed sets and stretch goals.

Anyone else gotten anything yet? This thread is unusually quiet on people getting their toys...

I haven't gotten anything yet. :/ Damn Sector Chief pledge level.

I pledged after it ended, I'm assuming mine's gonna be the last one shipped haha.

I've had a lawmaster and a walter so far - I did a fair bit of messing around with my pledges so figured it might be a wait I have had several small packages of other orders I have placed with them since, was impressed at the speed they got those out to me with all the running around they must be doing to get the KS sorted.

The new Victory at Sea line of 1/1800 ships continues to grow, as we unveil;

HMS York
HMS Leander
HMS Neptune
HMS Ajax
Tribal-class Destroyers



You can find all these ships at;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/victory-at-sea.html?dir=desc&order=position

If you order promptly, these ships will be in your hands before Christmas!

Coming in January, the first of the battleships, including Bismarck, Hood and the entire King George V-class!


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Just as a reminder, whenever a new ship for Victory at Sea becomes available, you will also be able to pick up the STL file for your 3D printer at Wargame Vault!

You can see the current range at;

http://www.wargamevault.com/index.php?&manufacturers_id=45

I still haven't received my Troggie. Sent an email about it Thanksgiving week and got a prompt reply, but...

I got my Troggies still waiting for the 2nd version of Judge Dredd and Walter the wobot. [plus the other additional single minis we got as rewards Judge Anderson, Rogue Trooper etc]

plus the box sets, which fingers cross won't be to far away. [well the Citi-Defand Demonic Cabal should be sooner then later but I think the Dark Judges and ABC warriors will be early next year....]

Cheers
LGW

A complete Battle of the River Plate set is now available for Victory at Sea, containing the ships Ajax, Achilles, Exeter, and Graf Spee.

You can find it here;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/victory-at-sea/battle-sets.html

Got a couple more boxes in the post. ONce I set up my PC again from having been packed up, I'll be able to see what's left.. I think it's just the newer stuff.

A couple more? Jeez, I'm still waiting on anything to show up

Well, a couple more boxed sets inside one box, to make it clearer. 3 in total.

Mine are being sent from the UK, yours should be USPS from their local branch, or am I getting confused again?

 scipio.au wrote:
Well, a couple more boxed sets inside one box, to make it clearer. 3 in total.

Mine are being sent from the UK, yours should be USPS from their local branch, or am I getting confused again?

USPS, UPS or FedEx are all possibilities.

I didn't get anything yet.

The recent update indicated they've mostly finished shipping the produced stuff and everyone should get the first round of things by the next few weeks. Since I jumped in after the KS ended (thanks Matt!) I'm guessing mine was literally the last one shipped, lol.

As much as I love Dredd, having read 2000AD since 1981, the story that really started me being a regular was Rogue Trooper with the DIX-I storyline in 1982. I'm interested in what a game of that could be like.

I like the idea of doing solo missions with Rogue including the possibility of planning where to position Gunnar, Bagman and Helm to achieve an objective.

Rogue Trooper was also the first story I read that had GIANT tanks.

Then you'll be happy to know this:

Mongoose Publshing wrote:Rogue Trooper
As you should have heard by now, we are currently planning a new Kickstarter for 2013, to create the Rogue Trooper miniatures game. Some of you have expressed concern that we should be looking at this while some of you still have not seen any goodies from the last - again, don't worry. We won't go forward on this until the vast majority of everyone's goodies are in their hands. We are currently predicting that by the last week of January we will just be waiting for the bikers and the odd vehicle to return from the prototypers, so that seems like a good time to do it. If this changes, we will let you know.

As for what the Rogue Trooper game will contain... well, that will be the focus of my time off across the Christmas break, as I get into the nitty-gritty of the rules (we already have a very good idea of what models we want to produce for it).

The game is going to be based upon our Origins Award-winning system used for Starship Troopers and Battlefield Evolution, though with some updates (it is not completely dissimilar to the Judge Dredd miniatures game, except that concentrates on small skirmish actions between characters, while Rogue Trooper will handle units). Game sizes will vary very easily between Rogue vs. a squad, to entire companies clashing, buit neither will take much more than an hour or two to play through.

Typically, you will build up forces by platoon, with a leader and two squads as a minimum for most battles, then add 'special' bits - Raiders on Stammels, Carter-class tanks, Rogue himself, and so on. While the Southers will concentrate mainly on solid, dependable units, the Norts will have access to all sorts of 'secret' and 'special' weapons, as they always seem to be trying something new in the comic strip!

We are taking a good look at Nu Earth (and beyond!) itself too, as there will be all sorts of terrain tha players will be able to take advantage of/be advised to avoid.

If you are just wanting a few collectible miniatures or want to refight the entire Nort/Souther galactic war, you will want to take a peek at all this! We are taking lessons learned from the Judge Dredd Kickstarter project, and applying them to Rogue, so you will find the pledges cfar easier to get to grips with and, importantly, the admin will flow much easier on our end, meaning you will get models in your hands even quicker than you have with Dredd!

I commented after having read the State of the Mongoose but I appreciate your helpfulness. Thank you.

 judgedoug wrote:
A couple more? Jeez, I'm still waiting on anything to show up

You in the US? Waiting for a Council or Sector pledge level? If a package is not already on its way, it will be going off to you this week.

MongooseMatt wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
A couple more? Jeez, I'm still waiting on anything to show up

You in the US? Waiting for a Council or Sector pledge level? If a package is not already on its way, it will be going off to you this week.

Thanks Matt! Yup, I just assumed I would be the last one shipped, since you let me pledge after the KS ended and it would be only fair to ship the first backers first, so no worries.

Did your stuff show up, Doug?

I'm wondering what the timeline is going to be like for the other boxes, particularly the ones that are made up of existing figure lines just repackaged for the KS (and beyond) like Justice Dept II and so forth...

Yes, actually, that following weekend, like the 22nd or so. There was a packing mistake (some wrong items) but I already contacted Matt and got a response during Christmas (I told him don't worry about it til after Jan 1 but he replied anyway) that they'd send out the correct ones shortly (lots and lots of Sovs).

Sovs? I didn't even know they were in production yet. I'm just hopeful on getting the repack stuff soon.

I was also missing like a pack of Citi-def and some extra things. Basically I got some teams I didn't order but Matt sorted it out already while on holiday which was pretty cool. I'm guessing their shipping depts were pretty hectic in the days leading up to Christmas, hence my mispacks etc. Don't mind waiting for everything to get sorted out.

 scipio.au wrote:
Sovs? I didn't even know they were in production yet. I'm just hopeful on getting the repack stuff soon.

You will - I happen to know there is a package that should now be just days away from you

I'm seriously disappointed at having missed this KS. For feth's sake, the thread doesn't even have Dredd in the title, but after the first four posts, that is all it's been about.

The Thread title of the OP has been changed.

I got more stuff today.

Fergie
Giant
Spaceport Judge

Troggie : Judge Dredd #2

Walter the Wobot

2x Citi-Def squads

and a female judge that I think is the Exorcist Judge [has two guns]

Still waiting on:
Demonic Cable
ABC Warriors
Dark Judges
Rogue Trooper
Nort Trooper
Souther Trooper
Judge Anderson
weapon sprues [rilfes,judges, heavy weapons]
Oola Blint
Sabal
Executioner
Chief Judge Hersey

LGW

Hey i was surprised with my envelope of Fergie, Giant and Spacie this morning. Looking forward to getting them painted up.

For everyone who has been waiting, the Citi-Def squad is now available! Staffed by weekend warriors, this is a fun force to play in the Judge Dredd miniatures game, as they have a great deal of firepower but it is not always easy getting your soldiers to point their guns in the right direction!

The Citi-Def Squad comes as a set with 8 miniatures, all of which are also available seperately.

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/the-citi-def.html

That's a nice looking squad of miniatures!

They didn't make it on Friday. Hopefully early next week....

Scipio, if you have not seen anything by now, please drop me a line (msprange@mongoosepublishing.com). You should have had a package by now - I know, I sent it myself

I've just received the River Plate battle box, the ships are so cute !

Hi Matt. I got them a few days ago - at the end of last week. Two lots of Rifle Judge+Giant/Fergee/Space+Citi-Def. Thank you for those. I'll probably wait till we have all the judges in hand, then do some horse trading with my wife to work out who gets to have/paint what, then batch paint them...

Do you know what the situation is with the things like Justice Dept II and so forth? The figures that are already sculpted and in the line that were repackaged for the KS?

 scipio.au wrote:

Do you know what the situation is with the things like Justice Dept II and so forth? The figures that are already sculpted and in the line that were repackaged for the KS?

Going out to you this week


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We have just posted Fleet Update #1, a free supplement for A Call to Arms: Star Fleet. This exciting issue contains some valuable additons for all fleets, including Escorts and the latest descriptions of the laest ships, such as the Federation Mars-class Battleship and Klingon E5 Corvette. In all, 19 new ships have been added to the game!

You can grab a copy at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/fleetupdate1.pdf

[img=http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/600x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/l/i/light_raiding_drednought_1.jpg]Light Raiding Dreadnought[/img]

You can also pick up the latest ships, such as the Gettysburg Heavy Command Cruiser, Light Raiding Dreadnought, F5W War Destroyer and OK6 Converted Cruiser at http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/ctastarfleet.html?dir=desc&order=position

Finally, we have posted the first of a set of reference sheets on Wargame Vault. The first pack covers the Gorn fleet, and comes complete in two formats; card/smart phone and printed/tablet. You can find a copy at;

http://www.wargamevault.com/product/110079/Star-Fleet%3A-Gorn-Reference-Cards

Missed the Judge Dredd Kickstarter but want to see what mdoels were created for it and will be available very soon?

Planet Mongoose has the scoop!

http://blog.mongoosepublishing.co.uk/?p=463

MongooseMatt wrote:

 scipio.au wrote:

Do you know what the situation is with the things like Justice Dept II and so forth? The figures that are already sculpted and in the line that were repackaged for the KS?

Going out to you this week

Got a package this week. Just a couple of questions - My wife's set hasn't arrived (she should be getting all of these) are they being sent separately? We're good with you sending them combined to save the postal costs.

The Zombie horde came with 5 torsos, 1 Necromancer, 1 zombie judge, 1 head sprue, 1 shoulder sprue, 1 kneepad sprue and 1 sprue of little pouches- and 2 Mantic zombie sprues. Is this correct?
The demonic cabal had 7 figures in total. Is this correct?
Also got Justice Dept II as well as Anderson and DeMarco.

cheers!

MongooseMatt wrote:
Scipio, if you have not seen anything by now, please drop me a line (msprange@mongoosepublishing.com). You should have had a package by now - I know, I sent it myself

I'm not Scipio, but I just sent an email about my Troggie reward that never arrived. It's been quite a while and I've contacted you before, so I would like to know what the issue is, please.

Thank you.

On April 6th, Apocalypse Mega-City One comes to our Swindon HQ!

Apocalypse Mega-City One is the first official tournament for the Judge Dredd miniatures game. We invite you all to come down with your favourite Judge Dredd force (which can include mercenaries, giving you a huge range of options!) and play through a series of games to find out who is best!

There will be many prizes available, some sneak peeks at new models and games in progress, and a wide variety of scenarios that will take you from the streets of Mega-City One to the Cursed Earth and beyond!

Tickets are just £10 each, and every entrant will receive a free miniature on the day!

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/miniatures/judge-dredd/rulebook/apocmc1-tournament.html

Just to let you all know, a new revision of the Block War expansion is now available! As always, it can be downloaded from;

http://www.mongoosepublishing.com/pdf/jdblockwar.pdf

A few new delights you will find for your games of Judge Dredd have been included, such as;

* Justice Department Secondment rules, allowing you to bring specialist judges into your force permanently!
* A completely revised Mobster force, now with added henchmen and Assassinators!
* A brand new vehicle, whose model is already available but may not have yet come to your notice...
* Loads more Mercenaries, including Psi-Judge Anderson and the Cal-Hab Judge!

Any word on the next VaS releases please ?