Note to mods shut this down if you feel the need to.

Is there someone on the forums you disagreed with or just felt was a waste of space but have now warmed up to? I'd like to think that as a community in OT even though we have considerable differences in view and stupid mutiquote arguments ad nauseum (maybe that should read stupid gun arguments ad nauseum) that after a time of reading others views we can come to respect others that we may have disagreed with in the past.

So I'll lead off - lets leave off why you weren't impressed with them and just mention what you think now. If you want to be un-serious go ahead after all it's one of my threads - but lets be nice.

Seaward: Has to be one of the smartest and best informed people I have had the pleasure of reading on this forum. Even though I don't always agree with what he says, I always take the time to read and think about what he says. I've learned a lot about the military and other things related and have also enjoyed reading his viewpoint on many things, as it can be quite different to my beliefs.

So Seaward, thanks and may you continue to have many an OT argument more.

whembly, djones520, easysuace, cincydooley, Plataun4th, etc are posters that I frequently disagree with politically, socially and philosophically but I've never really disliked them either cause outside those disagreements they seemed pretty decent so I don't know if they really are good

examples for this thread. I don't see myself ever getting a long with generalgrog or seaward though...


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I guess being more of a fan of liberal and socially democratic politics it's no surprise I'm somewhat antagonistic toward conservatives (although I'm not too bothered by moderate conservatives) and libertarians.

If we all got along, OT wouldn't be fun!

I don't think i'd ever say I hated anybody on here. Disliked when loosing an argument, certainly, but never hate.

People agree on some things and disagree on others depending on the topic. I try just to treat them as isolated encounters and don't feel myself coming up "against" any particular person with any notable frequency.

Lets not throw round the word hate Medium of Death, this was meant as a feel good thread. To show that even though we disagree with some perhaps we can show publicly that we respect them. Perhaps the thread is redundant though....

Gailbraithe is someone I disagree with but he is so extreme in his delivary that I can't help but laugh it off.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/330442.page?userfilterid=15594

I'm pretty sure everyone disagreed with Gailbraithe in pretty much every thread he involved himself in and that he disagreed with everyone else (even when someone tried to point out when he had a point he disagreed with them) XD

I guess I'm mostly with Medium of Death on this. It's the internet. People gonna disagree. If anything some of the people I like the most on OT also happen to be the ones I'm frequently on opposite ends with

Gotta say though my personal favorite poster is the Spam Bot thats always selling us Kitchens. It takes some serious dedication to keep coming back What a trooper.

I disagree with dogma, ahtman, and Sebster on pretty much everything philosophically. I also respect each one of them a ton because I think they're all intelligent, articulate people.

Hotsauceman I disagree with on pretty much everything too, but I chalk that up to him being a naive, idealistic college kid, so I don't hold it against him. He's also a genuinely nice kid.

d-usa. At first I thought he was a bleeding heart liberal. But the more I read here the more I began to agree with him. Now I agree with the guy on most things except on gun control.

Is he not the origin of "Blame the Victim?". i.e. Gailbraithe

Clicked the link. Yes... yes he is. Forgot how glorious that was.

Hate is such a beautiful thing though... let it flow through you...

I didn't mean to appear to encourage others to hate and thought it was obvious by saying I didn't hate anybody. I guess using the word could drive the thread in that direction.

More positive... err... KilKrazy inspired me to go out and read 1984, which I followed up with a couple more of Orwell's books. That wasn't really on the back of any argument though.

There are people I disagree with politically and philosophically, sometimes vehemently, but almost none I actively dislike as people. At some point or another I have agreed with people that I also have argued with.

The main exceptions are, of course, G Baby and that guy who randomly shows up to talk about how ugly and stupid non-Asians are.

Well, we are all ugly and stupid, aren't we?

 cincydooley wrote:
Well, we are all ugly and stupid, aren't we?

Well it is rude to point it out.

 cincydooley wrote:
Well, we are all ugly and stupid, aren't we?

Hey, hey, hey... I am not one of those things.

 cincydooley wrote:
Well, we are all ugly and stupid, aren't we?

Except for Kronk

 Ahtman wrote:
There are people I disagree with politically and philosophically, sometimes vehemently, but almost none I actively dislike as people. At some point or another I have agreed with people that I also have argued with.

Pretty much how I feel in general.

The main exceptions are, of course, G Baby and that guy who randomly shows up to talk about how ugly and stupid non-Asians are.

I can't hate that guy because what he says is so stupid and racist it just becomes funny to me (I mean obviously it's a horrible thing to do) I spent like 15 min on his forum site just laughing at how ridiculous his community's thoughts were on "westerners".

Oh holy crap, how did I miss the comment section. Works going to have to wait I have much laughter to do.

I know there are people who have philosophically decided that no one should ever be on ignore; but those are better people that I.

I do tend to clear my ignore list from time to time but ultimately, I've found there are people on this forum who really aren't going to say anything worth reading; or at least what they might say that is interesting is not worth wading though endless one-line garbage posts smugly implying their superiority.

I've no favorites. I hate everyone equally. Kronk though is the Messiah of Love. The King of all Beer's. The Inspector of all things Female related...only for another couple of months.

KalashnikovMarine. We tight, dawg.

Everyone else can go and die in every fire though. Well, not really. You can only die once.


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Jihadin, we're cool too, at least on my side.

Why thank you. I do what I can.

"What I can" alternates between insightful commentary and flinging poo depending on mood.

 Ouze wrote:
I know there are people who have philosophically decided that no one should ever be on ignore; but those are better people that I.

I do tend to clear my ignore list from time to time but ultimately, I've found there are people on this forum who really aren't going to say anything worth reading; or at least what they might say that is interesting is not worth wading though endless one-line garbage posts smugly implying their superiority.

This list gets longer and longer for me every day.

There are a few people in the YMDC forums that make me want to strangle a manatee in the nude. (While screaming "Why argue strict RAW if even by your own admission you would never play it that way?!")

There are a few people who have made me wonder if Rule #1 is enforced at all. There is a handful of users, most of them on my ignore list by now, who are the most negative, caustic, rude, dismissive, and thoroughly worthless posters imaginable. Two or three of them I've gone back through their posts page by page looking to see if they had EVER said anything polite, constructive, or positive. (One user in particular I went back four pages and never did find one.)

Sometimes I come to accept them and just ignore them. For the most part I put them on ignore and try not to let that crap get to me.

Nope. You're all a bunch of tossers and I'm sick of the sight of you.

It just so happens that I enjoy being around tossers and getting physical nausea when I see peoples' faces.

Carry on, I'm gunna go barf in the corner.

 Avatar 720 wrote:
Nope. You're all a bunch of tossers and I'm sick of the sight of you.

It just so happens that I enjoy being around tossers and getting physical nausea when I see peoples' faces.

Carry on, I'm gunna go barf in the corner.

Oh yeah? Well, tea is overrated!

Manchu and I detested each other, initially. Now we're facebook friends! The same is true (though to a lesser extent, we just butted heads a few times) of Ahtman. We chat on facebook from time to time. He's a genuinely nice bloke who I would consider more a friend than a fellow Dakkanaut.

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Don't get it twisted though, I'm still a total fething StreetWolf.

 Ouze wrote:
I know there are people who have philosophically decided that no one should ever be on ignore; but those are better people that I.
I do tend to clear my ignore list from time to time but ultimately, I've found there are people on this forum who really aren't going to say anything worth reading; or at least what they might say that is interesting is not worth wading though endless one-line garbage posts smugly implying their superiority.

I have a select group of idiots in mine (6) and once they join such an august company they never leave. 3 of these people are/were denizens of OT and the remainder are from the general population.

There are people in this very thread who have never written a word that I agree with (as far as I remember), a few more whose world view occasionally aligns with mine and a few more who I tend to agree with. Just like the real world and it takes a sustained effort to get on my ignore list.

My philosophy on forums is that as its the internet its pointless getting worked up about anything on it and getting dragged into on the all too frequent flame bait discussions on here is a waste of everyone's time. I have evolved a system where I only post in a given topic a handful of times (and on some topics not at all), this allows me to express my views on a subject and back them up as required without getting bogged down in the morass of entrenched opinion that will inevitably arise. If you are dwelling on forum posts when you are not on forums then you are doing something very wrong.

I have no idea, I've never even thought to make use of the ignore feature. I guess if there's any I don't like I just tend to forget about them.

 Albatross wrote:
Manchu and I detested each other, initially.

Not true. I just had trouble expressing my love at first.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
I know there are people who have philosophically decided that no one should ever be on ignore; but those are better people that I.
I do tend to clear my ignore list from time to time but ultimately, I've found there are people on this forum who really aren't going to say anything worth reading; or at least what they might say that is interesting is not worth wading though endless one-line garbage posts smugly implying their superiority.

I have a select group of idiots in mine (6) and once they join such an august company they never leave. 3 of these people are/were denizens of OT and the remainder are from the general population.

There are people in this very thread who have never written a word that I agree with (as far as I remember), a few more whose world view occasionally aligns with mine and a few more who I tend to agree with. Just like the real world and it takes a sustained effort to get on my ignore list.

My philosophy on forums is that as its the internet its pointless getting worked up about anything on it and getting dragged into on the all too frequent flame bait discussions on here is a waste of everyone's time. I have evolved a system where I only post in a given topic a handful of times (and on some topics not at all), this allows me to express my views on a subject and back them up as required without getting bogged down in the morass of entrenched opinion that will inevitably arise. If you are dwelling on forum posts when you are not on forums then you are doing something very wrong.

You know what? That's genuinely one of the most insightful posts I've ever read on the OT.

 Palindrome wrote:


My philosophy on forums is that as its the internet its pointless getting worked up about anything on it and getting dragged into on the all too frequent flame bait discussions on here is a waste of everyone's time. I have evolved a system where I only post in a given topic a handful of times (and on some topics not at all), this allows me to express my views on a subject and back them up as required without getting bogged down in the morass of entrenched opinion that will inevitably arise. If you are dwelling on forum posts when you are not on forums then you are doing something very wrong.

I try to have a 2 post maximum in "discussions", if I cannot manage to communicate my point in 2 posts I feel it is a failure on my part and I therefore drop the argument. Occasionally I get a bit excited and break this rule, but for the most part i think an internet argument is just a failure to communicate.
No one else please take up this idea, OT would die.
Ban lists are an anathema to me , I feel like I'm censoring myself if i cannot read what someone else types.


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 Seaward wrote:
Why thank you. I do what I can.

"What I can" alternates between insightful commentary and flinging poo depending on mood.

BTW I've often wondered do you feel empty whenever Sebster isn't around

Differing opinions is just a fact of life, I may disagree with someone's opinion but that is not going to make me dis-like them as a person. I think I've only had to block two people to date for varying reasons (names omitted to protect the guilty ) Hearing another perspective usually brings up arguments or points I hadn't considered.

Now I just have to work on being slightly less abrasive at times

I've never blocked anyone no matter how much I dislike them plus I can just skip over reading their posts if it's too much for me. Totally agree Dreadclaw69 that differing opinions allows for new ideas and makes you a better person as you actually might have to defend your opinions.

My ignore list remains empty, and I intend for it to continue that way.

As some have said; I may often dislike or disagree with what a particular poster says, but I don't want to miss it when they say something interesting or insightful.

 Cheesecat wrote:
I've never blocked anyone no matter how much I dislike them plus I can just skip over reading their posts if it's too much for me. Totally agree Dreadclaw69 that differing opinions allows for new ideas and makes you a better person as you actually might have to defend your opinions.

I did try that, but when someone continually does the equivalent of arguing that black is white then it just becomes more tiresome than it is worth

Oh yeah, I can only handle so much arguing before I give up due to exhaustion.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:


Now I just have to work on being slightly less abrasive at times

The internet seems to do that, I think we all need to be less abrasive at times.

 Cheesecat wrote:
I've never blocked anyone no matter how much I dislike them plus I can just skip over reading their posts if it's too much for me. Totally agree Dreadclaw69 that differing opinions allows for new ideas and makes you a better person as you actually might have to defend your opinions.

This, except I have one person on my ignore list who I put there after he went straight for a tirade of ad hominem attacks because I disagreed with him in one of his first threads on the forum. Ignoring people because one disagees with them seems rather intellectually dishonest.

Tibbsy wrote:
My ignore list remains empty, and I intend for it to continue that way.

That was my original stance as well and I never put anyone on an ignore list for probably over a decade. There was an oxygen thief on here last year though that made me change my mind and I now put needlessly aggressive and/or useless posters on the ignore list just because its easier. Its rare and the poster in question needs to be a special little snowflake but it does happen. This is one case where expediency beats ideology.

 Albatross wrote:

You know what? That's genuinely one of the most insightful posts I've ever read on the OT.

Its just a shame that my standard of written English let me down, as usual

I only have one person on my ignore list, and they're there because every time I've seen them post it's been puerile, mysognistic or just plain hateful, so I don't consider that I'll miss out on any decent debate with them. I tried to keep mine empty for as long as possible, as opposing opinions mean I have to examine my own and help me develop, but the guy made me walk away from my computer and made me genuinely angry with quite how transphobic his posts were (in the trans* athlete thread) so I consider having him on ignore the equivalent of losing the opportunity to debate with that pigeon that keeps making noises on the windowsill.

Even if I tend to disagree with them, I respect most of the more conservative posters on the forum because they (in general) know how to construct an argument and can back their positions up, even if maybe not to the point that I'd change my mind all the time. There does appear to be a few that are needlessly contrarian though, or who are unnecessarily rude in arguments.

Same with the more liberal or moderate posters; I respect those that can hold a coherent argument and are able to put their point across well. I'm the first to admit that my own bias means I will tend to agree with those posters more, so I try to work against that bias, but I still find myself agreeing with Sebster or Ahtman more than I agree with, say, Relapse or Whembly.

I tend to not involve myself in debates as much as I like, because as much as I like to think im a competent Internet Debater® I tend to fumble my points if I'm not talking in person, combined with there not seeming to be topics that I feel I can make a meaningful contribution to very often, so I generally stay fairly quiet.

Edit: wow. Wall-o-text-o.

I like the slow development of understanding between posters in OT. It tends to come and go in waves, with new people arriving and having old arguments and the long timers sort of stumbling in and out, progressively more impatient. But you see people mellow and start to see each other more as people and less as an opposing ideology as time goes on.

There's a few posters here who can reliably make my blood boil, generally because I can see that they are fairly intelligent people but their ideology is pretty far away from mine. What's good about Dakka though is interacting with said people in other ways- discussing hobbies in the other fora. For example, Djones50 is someone who I am sure I have insulted by being too blasé and provocative in some of my posts about the american military. Having interacted with him outside this arena and when not talking about politics in the same way but instead talking about Pathfinder, I've come to regret my rudeness and resolved to moderate myself a little better next time.

All of that said, there are times (usually when I'm pissed off about something else) where OT just makes me unreasonably annoyed, and I tend to back off then. I've only put 2 people on ignore, neither of whom post here any more. Both times it was because I found how they posted objectionable on all fora, not just OT. I try to avoid it where possible.

 loki old fart wrote:
The internet seems to do that, I think we all need to be less abrasive at times.

I think that a lot of it comes from the fact that (a) I can be very blunt, (b) I can be very stubborn

I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

 d-usa wrote:
I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

Sometimes we have our mis-understandings and disagreements, but no grudges held here

I think it would be interesting to share a beer with some members here

I've often thought that.

 Cheesecat wrote:
whembly, djones520, easysuace, cincydooley, Plataun4th, etc are posters that I frequently disagree with politically, socially and philosophically but I've never really disliked them either cause outside those disagreements they seemed pretty decent so I don't know if they really are good

I didn't expect to be mentioned at all, honestly. I seem to fly under many people's radars on the rest of the site

I can't honestly remember having a disagreement with you, Cheesecat, but then most of the threads I argue in tend to be things that are fringe to my core beliefs(read: I'm bored, unemployed, and have a computer) and the thread itself has piqued my interest unless someone says something that I absolutely feel I must address. Most of those times I do honestly argue something that I feel strongly about, I won't be seen on Dakka a few days after as I feel I need to take a break from the board to calm down and resist the urge to comment again lest I get to the emotional point I attack the poster and not the argument. I tend to try to avoid topics that I feel strongly about(for my own stress), but I'll admit I've slipped up.

So, saying I don't remember a disagreement isn't reflective of the other poster, more a reflection on the topic being something I don't care one way or the other enough on to remember.

The only poster I can really remember having negative feelings then coming around to would probably be Kanluwen and that's all about how he used to argue things and came across more than anything about him as a person in general. He still slips into WRONGBADFUN mode sometimes, but it's way less these days.

There are a few whose opinions I find deplorable in various areas, but I haven't ignored anyone.

Some people I consider their posts to be utterly pointless to read (not naming any names frazzled), or their incredible love for Nazism whilst pretending they're the most anti nazi person ever (not naming any names inquisitorehrnstein)

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

Sometimes we have our mis-understandings and disagreements, but no grudges held here

I think it would be interesting to share a beer with some members here

I enjoy having arguments with quite a few of you, it's fun when you can have a back and forth of ideas as long as both sides can argue their points reasonably. Sometimes the back and forth of ideas and information is more important to me than "being right", especially when many of our topics here can have both sides be "right".

 LordofHats wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:
Well, we are all ugly and stupid, aren't we?

Except for Kronk

You're fething A Right!

Also, my ignore list is longer than my friends list, because feth you. Also, my ignore list has people that have ME on their friends list, because feth them!

Also, there are people here that I rarely agree with, but won't ignore, because they're pretty articulate and even tempered with their posts. Even when they're wrong!

Anyone know if Shumagurath okay or he just quit this goat rope?

 Jihadin wrote:
Anyone know if Shumagurath okay or he just quit this goat rope?

I forgot about that guy. Huh. Where did he go?

Edit: His last post was in 2012: lnky

I think a certain Inquisitor is gone however...

 d-usa wrote:
I think a certain Inquisitor is gone however...

Oh. Good.

 d-usa wrote:
I enjoy having arguments with quite a few of you, it's fun when you can have a back and forth of ideas as long as both sides can argue their points reasonably. Sometimes the back and forth of ideas and information is more important to me than "being right", especially when many of our topics here can have both sides be "right".

Likewise. And I know that I can get sucked into the minutia and miss the bigger picture at times.

 d-usa wrote:
I think a certain Inquisitor is gone however...

You mean the forum will be deprived of his ironic Nazism and atrocious fan fiction? Oh what a shame....

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
I think a certain Inquisitor is gone however...

You mean the forum will be deprived of his ironic Nazism and atrocious fan fiction? Oh what a shame....

I'm not sure I'm at a loss for not knowing what/who you're talking about.

I'm with Kronk

Some people on these forums are hypocrites or whiners/ over-like PP, but I don't feel right to name aNyone I dislike.

 Platuan4th wrote:
I'm not sure I'm at a loss for not knowing what/who you're talking about.

If you don't know then you really are not missing much


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 sing your life wrote:
Some people on these forums are hypocrites or whiners/ over-like PP, but I don't feel right to name aNyone I dislike.

Might be for the best so we don't violate Rule 1

I'm amused at the idea of "over liking" something.

 Da Boss wrote:
I'm amused at the idea of "over liking" something.

Same.

Never try Smartfood white chedder popcorn..

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:
whembly, djones520, easysuace, cincydooley, Plataun4th, etc are posters that I frequently disagree with politically, socially and philosophically but I've never really disliked them either cause outside those disagreements they seemed pretty decent so I don't know if they really are good

I didn't expect to be mentioned at all, honestly. I seem to fly under many people's radars on the rest of the site

I can't honestly remember having a disagreement with you, Cheesecat, but then most of the threads I argue in tend to be things that are fringe to my core beliefs(read: I'm bored, unemployed, and have a computer) and the thread itself has piqued my interest unless someone says something that I absolutely feel I must address. Most of those times I do honestly argue something that I feel strongly about, I won't be seen on Dakka a few days after as I feel I need to take a break from the board to calm down and resist the urge to comment again lest I get to the emotional point I attack the poster and not the argument. I tend to try to avoid topics that I feel strongly about(for my own stress), but I'll admit I've slipped up.

I was just using you as an example cause if I remember correctly you're politically conservative which is something I'm in disagreement fairly often. Also theirs plenty of things I disagree with on the OT but just don't bother responding as I don't want the drama or someone better at debating

is their to counter them. Either way I don't dislike you (you seem pretty nice) I just remember having a completely different values than you.

 Jihadin wrote:
I'm with Kronk

And a thousand ladies the world over wailed, and gnashed their teeth, and tore at their hair and clothes.

Its Man Love Thursday somewhere

 Ouze wrote:
I know there are people who have philosophically decided that no one should ever be on ignore; but those are better people that I.

I do tend to clear my ignore list from time to time but ultimately, I've found there are people on this forum who really aren't going to say anything worth reading; or at least what they might say that is interesting is not worth wading though endless one-line garbage posts smugly implying their superiority.

Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

Everybody likes me, i would not understand why somebody would put me on the ignore list, and being always right with my superior knowledge about everything , who would not like me

Seriously i am quite a mellow guy, must be because of sitting in clouds of weed smoke when growing up.

Although i miss some of the more vocal white knights their comments was a great insight in the mind of a delusional person, one should write a paper about the similarities between white knights and cult members.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

I assure you, the few people who are on my ignore list know they are on my ignore list.

 Ouze wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

I assure you, the few people who are on my ignore list know they are on my ignore list.

Why tell them?

I'm pretty sure I'm on a few.

I have a short ignore list and most of the time cannot resist seeing what they posted anyway...lol

I respect a fair few members on here. Their arguments are usually pretty good, even when I disagree. OT has taught me a lot about debate and tolerance.

Albatross, Seaward, Ouze, Ahtam, and LordofHats always seem to make good posts.

Kronk just makes me laugh. lol

I don't use the ignore feature.

I enjoy reading folks that have a different viewpoint than I do. It gives me the chance (especially when they can articulate their reasons/points decently) to re-look my position.


I've even hit the Exalt button on a few posts I disagreed with because they were good posts.

 Da Boss wrote:
I'm amused at the idea of "over liking" something.

"Hey baby. I think I'm falling into over like with you!"

 Cheesecat wrote:


I was just using you as an example cause if I remember correctly you're politically conservative which is something I'm in disagreement fairly often.

Ah, cool. Yeah, I lean conservative on many political issues but liberal on social issues, I just tend to comment less on social issue threads.

 MrDwhitey wrote:
There are a few whose opinions I find deplorable in various areas, but I haven't ignored anyone.

Some people I consider their posts to be utterly pointless to read (not naming any names frazzled), or their incredible love for Nazism whilst pretending they're the most anti nazi person ever (not naming any names inquisitorehrnstein)

Man I remember inquisitor we need more characters like him again on Dakka, he was a good laugh.


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 Platuan4th wrote:

 Cheesecat wrote:


I was just using you as an example cause if I remember correctly you're politically conservative which is something I'm in disagreement fairly often.

Ah, cool. Yeah, I lean conservative on many political issues but liberal on social issues, I just tend to comment less on social issue threads.

Oh, I might be confusing you with Breotan or Jihadin so you might be correct that that we have little to no disagreements, I sometimes confuse posters.

 d-usa wrote:
I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

I love you too..sniff. You have honestly caused me to revisit my views on the death penalty.

I find myself almost never using the Ignore function. The only person ever on it (nsdbfn) had only two posts, both of which were deleted, which tells me everything I ever needed to know about why I ignored him.

As to specific folks? Not really. Though there is one, who whenever he posts, I prepare myself to sort through his misguided posts and misquoted rules.

 daedalus wrote:
KalashnikovMarine. We tight, dawg.

.

I was wondering how long it'd take me to show up on someone's list, and hell yeah mang.




The fun part about being ALL THE FETH over the place ideologically is I tend to be with the various different groups on different subjects. So I don't think I ever really want to beat my head against the wall when some people speak only to warm up to them later. hotsauce says some facepalm worthy gak now and then, but he's an okay guy. The one active poster I have an issue with I don't have on ignore, and the four I do were just ragingly stupid, racist, misogynist or something to the point of "No loss to me if I never see anything these morons say again"

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
The one active poster I have an issue with I don't have on ignore, and the four I do were just ragingly stupid, racist, misogynist or something to the point of "No loss to me if I never see anything these morons say again"

That tends to be my criteria for ignore lists on any site, in addition to actively hostile/aggressive posters.

There are real people on this forum? O_O

Anyway, I don't think I really dislike anyone here, I get annoyed sometimes but that's about it.

 Soladrin wrote:
There are real people on this forum? O_O

No, we're all just figments of Yakface's imagination. He's just sitting at a computer typing up fictional conversations like a stream of consciousness project.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Soladrin wrote:
There are real people on this forum? O_O

No, we're all just figments of Yakface's imagination. He's just sitting at a computer typing up fictional conversations like a stream of consciousness project.

Good.. good, I almost got worried there.

I try to avoid posting in debate threads at all, since my switches get flipped waaaay too easily. I don't have anyone on Ignore, though - I just skip their posts if they're the kind that put me in a gakky mood for the rest of the day.

One of the few posters that really upsets me(who shall remain unnamed)only does so because he seems to get way too much enjoyment from yelling at hotsauceman. Seriously, just leave the kid alone. He seems depressed and confused enough as is. Still, I do find myself agreeing with this particular poster quite frequently on issues other than the worthlessness of today's yoof. Does that count?

~Tim?

 Seaward wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

I assure you, the few people who are on my ignore list know they are on my ignore list.

Why tell them?

Can't you answer that question? If I remember correctly you were quite vocal about how you were putting d-usa on your ignore list...

I'm not sure if you meant to do this...but props on the thread title for referencing one of the most creep-inducing RPGs I have ever encountered.

Anyway, as for me, I have no intention of ignoring anyone. There's a couple people around here I wouldn't mind ignoring, but I've never encountered anyone who has never had any redeeming features, and I'd hate to miss out on something.

I think Frazzled has to fall under this category for me. Back when I first started wading into the OT forums and didn't know who anybody was I read a few things by him that annoyed me and the first impression stuck around for a while.

I severely doubt anybody has much opinion of me whatsoever to be honest. I feel like most of my posts (on the whole site, not just this subforum) basically amount to me wandering into a room with a conversation going on, muttering something tangentially related to the topic at hand, then wandering out again.

 Seaward wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

I assure you, the few people who are on my ignore list know they are on my ignore list.

Why tell them?

One of the rules of the internet.
You're meant to tell them you've blocked or reported them for no real reason other than to feel better about yourself.

 dementedwombat wrote:
I'm not sure if you meant to do this...but props on the thread title for referencing one of the most creep-inducing RPGs I have ever encountered.

Anyway, as for me, I have no intention of ignoring anyone. There's a couple people around here I wouldn't mind ignoring, but I've never encountered anyone who has never had any redeeming features, and I'd hate to miss out on something.

I think Frazzled has to fall under this category for me. Back when I first started wading into the OT forums and didn't know who anybody was I read a few things by him that annoyed me and the first impression stuck around for a while.

I severely doubt anybody has much opinion of me whatsoever to be honest. I feel like most of my posts (on the whole site, not just this subforum) basically amount to me wandering into a room with a conversation going on, muttering something tangentially related to the topic at hand, then wandering out again.

Meh, I used to find Frazzled amusing as he came across as an out of touch guy who was obsessed with Texas and wiener dogs (still is by the way) but that schtick got so old after awhile that it became annoying.

 Goliath wrote:

 Seaward wrote:

 Ouze wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you talking about me?

'Cause I've grown a lot as a poster...

Probably still deserve it, though.

I assure you, the few people who are on my ignore list know they are on my ignore list.

Why tell them?

Can't you answer that question? If I remember correctly you were quite vocal about how you were putting d-usa on your ignore list...

Oh. I stand corrected, I guess they don't know, after all. But yeah, I think Goliath has the crux of it. Also at some point I think you just so frustrated with how poor the signal to noise ratio is with some posters, you hope that by telling them yet another person has given up on you, perhaps you might reconsider the value of consistently posting single line posts, usually 10 words or less, whose sole purpose is to remind everyone how much cooler you are then everyone else present. "The coolest kid on a warhammer forum"; yeah, there's a trophy to display with pride.

 Cheesecat wrote:
Meh, I used to find Frazzled amusing as he came across as an out of touch guy who was obsessed with Texas and wiener dogs (still is by the way)

Eventually you find common ground with people if you post with them long enough, generally.

Frazzled seems to have the opposite effect on me the more I learn about him the more frustrated I get.

 dementedwombat wrote:

I severely doubt anybody has much opinion of me whatsoever to be honest. I feel like most of my posts (on the whole site, not just this subforum) basically amount to me wandering into a room with a conversation going on, muttering something tangentially related to the topic at hand, then wandering out again.

This pretty much sums up my feeling on it as well actually

 Cheesecat wrote:
whembly, djones520, easysuace, cincydooley, Plataun4th, etc are posters that I frequently disagree with politically, socially and philosophically but I've never really disliked them either cause outside those disagreements they seemed pretty decent so I don't know if they really are good

Nice to be named.

It's all good when we know the OT is dakka's "Thunderdome™".


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 loki old fart wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:


Now I just have to work on being slightly less abrasive at times

The internet seems to do that, I think we all need to be less abrasive at times.

Yeah... I really think it's because sometime it's hard to articulate some things and it comes out as abrasive.


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 d-usa wrote:
I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

We do!

And I'm willing to be that we'd all get along over a game of warhammer and some of your brewskies!


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 Platuan4th wrote:

The only poster I can really remember having negative feelings then coming around to would probably be Kanluwen and that's all about how he used to argue things and came across more than anything about him as a person in general. He still slips into WRONGBADFUN mode sometimes, but it's way less these days.

Kan's cool... he's just very passionate about some things politically... like I am.

And that's okay.

But we're all more than just our politics... as evidenced by the fact the me and Kan can get along in other threads on different topics.

 Jihadin wrote:
Its Man Love Thursday somewhere

Have an exalt for that

There really aren't too many people that I've been so completely put off by, that I put them on ignore, or think they're stupid or something. The only person that really comes to mind that I've got on ignore is due to a lack of good english skills (it may not be their first language, or they just don't care, but either way, my brain usually hurts after attempting to read one of their posts)



Can I use this thread and opportunity to make another plea to bring MattyRM back into OT? The world is a much brighter, and more interesting one with him in the OT of dakka.

 d-usa wrote:

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
I feel like I have a "we love to disagree and argue" bromance going with Dreadclaw69, whembly, and Relapse at times...

Sometimes we have our mis-understandings and disagreements, but no grudges held here

I think it would be interesting to share a beer with some members here

I enjoy having arguments with quite a few of you, it's fun when you can have a back and forth of ideas as long as both sides can argue their points reasonably. Sometimes the back and forth of ideas and information is more important to me than "being right", especially when many of our topics here can have both sides be "right".

Yup. Agreed.

Although, I believe that some of us likes to snark just for the sack of snarking.

To be honest, before I really started posted in OT forum... I was half, kinda in support of a Canadian style healthcare in the US. Which is generally something of an anathema with my other political stance, as I'm sure you'd know. But, being "exposed" to different views from different people around the world on this topic actually helped me clarify my positions. So... thanks dakkanauts!


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 CptJake wrote:
I don't use the ignore feature.

I enjoy reading folks that have a different viewpoint than I do. It gives me the chance (especially when they can articulate their reasons/points decently) to re-look my position.


I've even hit the Exalt button on a few posts I disagreed with because they were good posts.

Yup. Me too...

I've never even used that Mod triangle of love button either...

 whembly wrote:

I've never even used that Mod triangle of love button either...

I have.... but only on posts/threads that are trying to sell me discount kitchen stuff

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 whembly wrote:

I've never even used that Mod triangle of love button either...

I have.... but only on posts/threads that are trying to sell me discount kitchen stuff

What is with that, anyway? Does the guy get paid for the number of places he posts that crap?

Relapse wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 whembly wrote:

I've never even used that Mod triangle of love button either...

I have.... but only on posts/threads that are trying to sell me discount kitchen stuff

What is with that, anyway? Does the guy get paid for the number of places he posts that crap?

I think that is what you get when you pay somebody for "search engine optimization". More links to your site = higher search engine relevance, or something like that...

 whembly wrote:

It's all good when we know the OT is dakka's "Thunderdome™".

Can't we all just get beyond Thunderdome?

He who last laughs last wins

I’ve only ignored two people (who are similar enough I think it might be one) for asking questions and then belligerently ignoring advice when given. I still end up reading some of his threads because his questions often spark decent discussions.

There are some posters who’s opinion I respect for the type of meta they play in. The problem is their attitude that their way to play is the only way 40k is played. Once it sunk in to my head that while we use the same ruleset, we aren’t playing the same game, their posts become much easier to read, and grate on me less. It still bothers me when they answer new player’s questions with the assumption that they are playing in their meta (which might not be the case).

That and filtering good advice out of cynicism, negativity, a/o zealousness.

But I’m sure they roll their eyes when I wander into a thread and give casual, fluff based, touchy-feely advice.

Oh! I used to think Peregrine was a total warp spawn, but we actually agree on some things (very, very few things) and I've grown to not loath him utterly over the... has it been years now? Bloody hell.

The only person I really don't get along with is someone who has very a strong opinion, generally seems to belittle others, and has a link in his sig about how people who don't play with forgeworld are using a house rule. I too think he is total Warp Spawn

In all the posts I've seen of his, I have yet to agree with a single one. He really gets my goat, and one of these days I hope to eventually meet up with him either in a video game or in 40k game IRL and squash is ego right down the drain.

I've never really used the ignore tool, and I don't ever intend to. I generally like everyone else who i have had major contact with, and the Draconiclord is probably my best buddy on here that I don't already know IRL. (Being that he's the only one who posts regularly on my painting blog in my sig.)

Marrowick, Orgsbane, Shadow Angel, and to a lesser extent Some_call_me_tim? are all people I know and like

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
The only person I really don't get along with is someone who has very a strong opinion, generally seems to belittle others, and has a link in his sig about how people who don't play with forgeworld are using a house rule. I too think he is total Warp Spawn

In all the posts I've seen of his, I have yet to agree with a single one. He really gets my goat, and one of these days I hope to eventually meet up with him either in a video game or in 40k game IRL and squash is ego right down the drain.

I've never really used the ignore tool, and I don't ever intend to. I generally like everyone else who i have had major contact with, and the Draconiclord is probably my best buddy on here that I don't already know IRL. (Being that he's the only one who posts regularly on my painting blog in my sig.)

Marrowick, Orgsbane, Shadow Angel, and to a lesser extent Some_call_me_tim? are all people I know and like

Awwww....



~Tim?

I don't always agree with Peregrine, but I find his arguments to consistently have a solid basis, and his post on why "there is no such thing as a friendzone" was one of the more insightful things I've read on these fora.

I also find Sebster and Dogma also build arguments well but that's not really a good analogy because I much more frequently agree with them, and so is offtopic, strictly speaking.

 Ouze wrote:


Oh. I stand corrected, I guess they don't know, after all. But yeah, I think Goliath has the crux of it. Also at some point I think you just so frustrated with how poor the signal to noise ratio is with some posters, you hope that by telling them yet another person has given up on you, perhaps you might reconsider the value of consistently posting single line posts, usually 10 words or less, whose sole purpose is to remind everyone how much cooler you are then everyone else present. "The coolest kid on a warhammer forum"; yeah, there's a trophy to display with pride.

For some reason I feel like this is aimed at me...

 Albatross wrote:

 Ouze wrote:


Oh. I stand corrected, I guess they don't know, after all. But yeah, I think Goliath has the crux of it. Also at some point I think you just so frustrated with how poor the signal to noise ratio is with some posters, you hope that by telling them yet another person has given up on you, perhaps you might reconsider the value of consistently posting single line posts, usually 10 words or less, whose sole purpose is to remind everyone how much cooler you are then everyone else present. "The coolest kid on a warhammer forum"; yeah, there's a trophy to display with pride.

For some reason I feel like this is aimed at me...

Weird... Was gonna say fixed your quote wall for you... but before i typed this, I hit preview, and it looked as it should, yet on the actual forum wall, it looked off.

I don't use the ignore function. If I don't like something I either just let it go or respond, but I don't see the point in ignoring others. The only time I get really annoyed is when someone creates an incendiary post and then never posts again in the thread.

"Poop and swoop"!

I have one user on my ignore list. Not because he's rude or anything, but because he ends every post with "And stuff." Bugs me to death.

 Albatross wrote:

 Ouze wrote:


Oh. I stand corrected, I guess they don't know, after all. But yeah, I think Goliath has the crux of it. Also at some point I think you just so frustrated with how poor the signal to noise ratio is with some posters, you hope that by telling them yet another person has given up on you, perhaps you might reconsider the value of consistently posting single line posts, usually 10 words or less, whose sole purpose is to remind everyone how much cooler you are then everyone else present. "The coolest kid on a warhammer forum"; yeah, there's a trophy to display with pride.

For some reason I feel like this is aimed at me...

Wear it like a badge of honor if so, is my advice. There was some envious butthurt in there, I think.

 Seaward wrote:

 Albatross wrote:

 Ouze wrote:


Oh. I stand corrected, I guess they don't know, after all. But yeah, I think Goliath has the crux of it. Also at some point I think you just so frustrated with how poor the signal to noise ratio is with some posters, you hope that by telling them yet another person has given up on you, perhaps you might reconsider the value of consistently posting single line posts, usually 10 words or less, whose sole purpose is to remind everyone how much cooler you are then everyone else present. "The coolest kid on a warhammer forum"; yeah, there's a trophy to display with pride.

For some reason I feel like this is aimed at me...

Wear it like a badge of honor if so, is my advice. There was some envious butthurt in there, I think.

If you could have done that in ten words of less it would have been a lot better. As it is you just seem a little butthurt yourself.

 fishy bob wrote:
I have one user on my ignore list. Not because he's rude or anything, but because he ends every post with "And stuff." Bugs me to death.

Still not as annoying as people....that type all...their posts like...this...it just...y'know...makes me see red...

~Tim?

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
The only person I really don't get along with is someone who has very a strong opinion, generally seems to belittle others, and has a link in his sig about how people who don't play with forgeworld are using a house rule. I too think he is total Warp Spawn

In all the posts I've seen of his, I have yet to agree with a single one. He really gets my goat, and one of these days I hope to eventually meet up with him either in a video game or in 40k game IRL and squash is ego right down the drain.

I've never really used the ignore tool, and I don't ever intend to. I generally like everyone else who i have had major contact with, and the Draconiclord is probably my best buddy on here that I don't already know IRL. (Being that he's the only one who posts regularly on my painting blog in my sig.)

Marrowick, Orgsbane, Shadow Angel, and to a lesser extent Some_call_me_tim? are all people I know and like

Awwww....



~Tim?

I barely know you, and since Marrowick and shadow angel are my brothers that puts you on a lesser extent.

 Some_Call_Me_Tim? wrote:
Still not as annoying as people....that type all...their posts like...this...it just...y'know...makes me see red...

~Tim?

Oh yeah, that's the worst. Ellipses as spacers? I mean, not quite ignore worthy but yeah, a terrible habit.

Leave....my....habit...alone.....

I was having quite the go around with LordofHats the other day on the thread about the lap dancing teacher, and things were getting fairly heated.
With one picture, he had me busting my ass laughing, then Kanluwen made a wry one line comment.

Hard to be pissed at guys with that kind of humor.

Relapse wrote:
I was having quite the go around with LordofHats the other day on the thread about the lap dancing teacher, and things were getting fairly heated.
With one picture, he had me busting my ass laughing, then Kanluwen made a wry one line comment.

Hard to be pissed at guys with that kind of humor.

I know I was lurking for most of it, but that was a fun thread

I doubt I've registered on anyone's radar to a massive extent. There was a tiff between Ashiraya and myself a while back, but we're cool now.

I will shamelessly admit that Kronk is like the uncle I wish I had. There are a fair few users that I think are smart/ insightful/ generally worth listening to, but I never question a word Kronk says. I know better

Usually the only threads where any posters find themselves death glaring one another (clearly waiting for their mutant eye beam powers to awaken from pure rage) are threads about politics/serious business. Any other thread, I genuinely enjoy Seaward, Whembly, Dreadclaw, Frazzled, and all the other posters I'm typically arguing with.

If I got super PO'd about every person I disagreed with in politics, damn I'd be PO'd at everyone Where's the fun in that? Leave the rage in the politics threads and enjoy the fun otherwise

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
The only person I really don't get along with is someone who has very a strong opinion, generally seems to belittle others, and has a link in his sig about how people who don't play with forgeworld are using a house rule. I too think he is total Warp Spawn

In all the posts I've seen of his, I have yet to agree with a single one. He really gets my goat, and one of these days I hope to eventually meet up with him either in a video game or in 40k game IRL and squash is ego right down the drain.

I've never really used the ignore tool, and I don't ever intend to. I generally like everyone else who i have had major contact with, and the Draconiclord is probably my best buddy on here that I don't already know IRL. (Being that he's the only one who posts regularly on my painting blog in my sig.)

Marrowick, Orgsbane, Shadow Angel, and to a lesser extent Some_call_me_tim? are all people I know and like

Aaaww, you got me blushing thanks mate.

Relapse wrote:
I was having quite the go around with LordofHats the other day on the thread about the lap dancing teacher.

For some reason I was skimming this and saw it as "dancing teacher" and was all like

I think I've been called out twice already in this thread. I don't know if that's good or bad :(

 cincydooley wrote:
I think I've been called out twice already in this thread. I don't know if that's good or bad :(

Either your awesome enough that people mention you, or you've managed to make them hate you enough that they mention you.

Sir Stalin informs me both things are good

 liquidjoshi wrote:

Relapse wrote:
I was having quite the go around with LordofHats the other day on the thread about the lap dancing teacher, and things were getting fairly heated.
With one picture, he had me busting my ass laughing, then Kanluwen made a wry one line comment.

Hard to be pissed at guys with that kind of humor.

I know I was lurking for most of it, but that was a fun thread

I doubt I've registered on anyone's radar to a massive extent. There was a tiff between Ashiraya and myself a while back, but we're cool now.

I will shamelessly admit that Kronk is like the uncle I wish I had. There are a fair few users that I think are smart/ insightful/ generally worth listening to, but I never question a word Kronk says. I know better

And you're the nephew I wish I could corrupt!

"Here, take one of those beers and let me tell you what College will be like..."

 Jihadin wrote:
Leave....my....habit...alone.....

On a completely unrelated note, I just realized what the image in your avatar is. I imagine that's standard issue for Canadian armed forces?

I, in no way shape or form indicated I am in the Canadian military Granted I got my Canadian Jump Wings in '92 before they disbanded and have served along side of them at Kandahar and watch then play cement hockey...Tim Horton....well..you know. I retired US Army


Edit

Though some think retirement pay after 20 years is welfare

No, it was a joke - it's a common stereotype that Canadians are, as a people, more polite.

 Ouze wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Leave....my....habit...alone.....

On a completely unrelated note, I just realized what the image in your avatar is. I imagine that's standard issue for Canadian armed forces?

No, unfortunately, while downrange, he accidentally got issued some British ammunition

 LordofHats wrote:
. Any other thread, I genuinely enjoy Seaward, Whembly, Dreadclaw, Frazzled, and all the other posters I'm typically arguing with.

Right backatcha

Actually I retract my previous, as I have just added one user onto my ignore. Not giving any names, but he has a serious problem with respecting other user's opinions.

God I hope I haven't done anything to get on someone's ignore list. Tend to fly below the radar.

Most of the people who post regularly in OT are very intelligent and reasonable people, even if I rarely agree with some of them. Then again I rarely agree with anyone. It's nice to debate politics with a wide range of intelligent people.

I won't put people on ignore; generally by the time they reach that point they've been permabanned. I like to think I am fairly moderate unless I am hammered; so at least 2/5 of the time I am cool.

There aren't a ton of posters who get my back up; sometimes Peregrine makes me want to disagree with him just based on his style of posting, but I generally agree with most of his positions and he constructs his arguments well.

And of course I unequivocally back Frazzled because if I remember correctly he promised me a post as Minister of Strip Clubs when his wiener dog party or whatever takes over the country. A duty which I will solemnly embrace.

I would be interested to see if I am on anyones ignore list.

And of course I unequivocally back Frazzled because if I remember correctly he promised me a post as Minister of Strip Clubs when his wiener dog party or whatever takes over the country. A duty which I will solemnly embrace.

Bromsey, speaketh more on your stance as Minister of Strip Clubs..

 Jihadin wrote:

And of course I unequivocally back Frazzled because if I remember correctly he promised me a post as Minister of Strip Clubs when his wiener dog party or whatever takes over the country. A duty which I will solemnly embrace.

Bromsey, speaketh more on your stance as Minister of Strip Clubs..

My first program in office will be the No Breast Left Behind Act; in which Strip Clubs that fail to meet ABS (Average Breast Size) and DMQ (Dancer Morale Quotient) standards will be earmarked for additional federal funding for subsidized cleanliness and morale building efforts as well as augmentation procedures. After three years failure to show improvement on qualifying metrics without accepted exceptions, agents of the BBSCTBA (Bureau of Better Strip Clubs and Topless Bars of America) will be dispatched to oversee restructuring in order to meet mandated standards.

Hand in hand with this will be the General Reduction and Abatement of Skeeviness Program (or GRASP), which will work towards improving sanitary and stylistic conditions in our nation's greatest resource and cultural centers.

In following years I will institute my Presidential Challenge program in which employees of qualifying establishments will be allowed to work toward achieve the Presidential Physical Fitness (Lapdance), and Presidential Physical Fitness (Poledance) awards which if achieved will result in the presentation of the Presidential Awesome Lifestyle Award ( I promise to endeavor to present as many of these personally as my duties allow).