I noticed there was a 360 thread and I figured it wouldn't hurt to start a new one for PC players to share their thoughts.

I just started WoT tanks this past week. I'm heading towards the Panther and HATING the stupid DW2... Such a lame tank. At this point I'm about ready to just load purely HE rounds because I can't penetrate anything anyways. Anyone got any advice besides "tough it out" haha?

Haha no, just bend over, lube up and take your D.W. 2 punishment. It will get better soon.

I'z Da_Kaptin on dere...

I felt the same way about the T50. Being a T4 "scout" thrown in to T7/T8 games sucked more than the actual tank, mind you.

 Melissia wrote:
I felt the same way about the T50. Being a T4 "scout" thrown in to T7/T8 games sucked more than the actual tank, mind you.

No kidding. I've been thrown into tier 6/7 games CONSTANTLY with it... basically I'm just gaining xp through death... Though I was happy, I got a tier 6 kill with my tier 3 pz iii a my pz3a is probably my favorite backup tank. Quick, not too undergunned, makes for a decent scout.

I could have sworn Tier 3 tanks don't get scout matchmaking, that scout matchmaking began at Tier 4?

Yep, unless you were platooning in a silly fashion you should only have seen Tier 5 tanks at the most.

I was in a platoon with my buddy using his tier 5 so that was for that one but the DW2 gets stuck in tier 6/7 matches regularly without platooning and even when platooning with my buddy's tier 4 TD. I think if I had the DW2 in proper matches of tier 4's, I wouldn't be in such a bad position... Oh wells. As you said, I best just take it until I get 10k more xp and go to the VK30.01H

Well that's weird, the D.W. 2 should't be getting tier 7 matches, I've never had that experience in a tier 4 tank that wasn't getting scout matchmaking (which the DW doesn't get).

And yeah, you are still going to have a bad time in tier 4 matches, especially if you run into a matilda or the like. But you will be able to kill more people than in tier 7 games. I'm seriously surprised you get them without platooning wrong.

I'm motyak in game, if you see me on I'll probably be keen to platoon if I'm flying solo, and I'll roll my Matilda with your DW.

 Boblogik wrote:

I just started WoT tanks this past week. I'm heading towards the Panther and HATING the stupid DW2... Such a lame tank. At this point I'm about ready to just load purely HE rounds because I can't penetrate anything anyways. Anyone got any advice besides "tough it out" haha?

Use the 75mm and HE rounds or just buy gold ammo if you are having issues penetrating. The DW2 is widely regarded as being useless although I have never tried it myself, it does have decent side armour though so sidescraping should work well in it.




This is a key skill to learn if you have any interest in playing heavy (even some medium) tanks in WoT so you may as well start early.

The DW2 will only see tier 4-6 games just like nearly all tier 4 tanks and it doesn't have any special matchmaking limitations. If you platoon with a higher tier tank you only have yourself to blame.

http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/02/11/8-11-matchmaking-table/ (it is a patch out of date but I doubt things have changed significantly).

The T-50 shouldn't be getting in to Tier 7/8 matches, yet I consistently was

Anyone been playing the Historical part of it? Its lots of fun but never enough people on it so on average it takes me 2-3 minutes to get into a game.

how are the teams these days? i continue to check the forums but see thread after thread of complaints of fail players. this is why i stopped playing. i dont mind having awesome games where i do tons of damage in my Is or Is-2 and carry my team but it became tiresome after i was required to do it every single game. I also dont platoon very well as i am too much of a situational awareness person or i will often do something reckless to try and get my potato team an advantage.

Also if you have a tank that just plain sucks ( type 34, t34 or the vk2000 line) learn how to farm free exp. take a tank you can consistantly do well with and earn nice amounts of exp ( i aim for 1k exp without premium per game) and go to town. slowly you will rack up that free exp. i cant tell you how nice it was when i got my ferdi or tiger 2 and was able to fully upgrade it the first time out.

 Boblogik wrote:
I was in a platoon with my buddy using his tier 5 so that was for that one but the DW2 gets stuck in tier 6/7 matches regularly without platooning and even when platooning with my buddy's tier 4 TD. I think if I had the DW2 in proper matches of tier 4's, I wouldn't be in such a bad position... Oh wells. As you said, I best just take it until I get 10k more xp and go to the VK30.01H

Like others have said your DW2 should never see tier 7's unless you platoon with a tank a tier higher then you or with a tank that gets scout match making.

Normal vehicles in WoT's will only ever see vehicles two tiers higher then them.
Vehicles with scout match making will see vehicles three tiers higher then them (except for the chaffee which can get into tier 10 games).
Premium vehicles will only see vehicles one tier higher then them.

This is all asumming that your running solo and not platooned with a vehicle of a higher tier or one that gets scout match making. To be slightly more specific if anyone cares, not all scout match making is the same, it's actually weighted. Scout match making actually veries from vehicle to vehicle but it's really only the percentage of time that a vehicle will see certain tiers. For example (not 100% sure that the percentages are correct but they should be close enough to show my point) the AMX 13 75 is a tier 7 French Scout, 10% of the time it will be in tier 7 games, 20% of the time it will be in tier 8 games, 60% of the time it will be in tier 9 games and 10% of the time it will be in tier 10 games.

The DW2 is right up there with the worst tanks in the game... None of the tier 4 tanks are perticularly good, but the DW2 is a special kind of bad. It's almost as bad as the M3 Lee. It does have one strong point though and thats that the armor is pretty much a uniform 50mm all the way around the tank. It's basically a metal box with treads and a turret and because of this you can be very effective by angling your armor 45 degrees from your enemy. Best of luck with the gun though...

It will all be worth it once you get the VK though, that tank has some excelant gun options.

 Catyrpelius wrote:
Vehicles with scout match making will see vehicles three tiers higher then them

Four tiers, unless this is a very recent change. I consistently faced off against XIII opponents on my IV scouts last month.

And not all premium vehicles get premium matchmaking, e.g. Lowe.

I=Being new to the game I state this. I REALLY HATE not knowing of what people speak. The things you say aren't even google-able

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
I=Being new to the game I state this. I REALLY HATE not knowing of what people speak. The things you say aren't even google-able

Ah, sorry.

I refer to tank tiers. Tanks are tiered 1 to 10 in the roman numeral system, and aside from scout tanks (light tanks), generally will only go in to battle with other thanks +/- 2 tiers from their own. Scouts however can face off against tanks four tiers above them, because there are no high-level scouts (highest tier scout, IIRC, was seven).

But not all light tanks are scout tanks from Tier 4 onwards, just most of them.

And it's 8 for the highest tier scout (French and Chinese).

Apart from that, spot on.

Only 7k xp til I get to the vk30.01h... So slow. I am getting better at side scraping though. That video helped with proper technique, thanks for sharing that. I'm also going the German TD route to occupy myself when my dw2 is dead or I get frustrated with the DW2.

Don't go the waffentrager line...so goddamn broken.

 motyak wrote:
Don't go the waffentrager line...so goddamn broken.

I don't like that tree, everything in it is extremely fragile, yes they have good guns but you need a good sniping position to make them work as return fire will kill you very quickly, this is only going to get worse after the next patch as TDs lose the last vestiges of their camo bonus.

From tier 8 up though they get pretty ridiculous damage.

The original German TD line is pretty average, I would suggest that you stop at the Hetzer (with the 105mm gun) as its one of its strongest vehicles and it doesn't take much grind to get.

 motyak wrote:
Don't go the waffentrager line...so goddamn broken.

It's broken pretty evenly though. Amazing guns, but they might as well not have an armor value.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Don't go the waffentrager line...so goddamn broken.

It's broken pretty evenly though. Amazing guns, but they might as well not have an armor value.

Yeah, but you get one shot off at them for, what, 3 of theirs? 4? With crazy pen and damage? If they were all like the tier 8 then it wouldn't be too bad, but the auto loader just kills it and puts it over the top. But I don't want to gripe too much, this should be a fun thread for people learning to play Sorry for derailing it a bit

 motyak wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Don't go the waffentrager line...so goddamn broken.

It's broken pretty evenly though. Amazing guns, but they might as well not have an armor value.

Yeah, but you get one shot off at them for, what, 3 of theirs? 4? With crazy pen and damage? If they were all like the tier 8 then it wouldn't be too bad, but the auto loader just kills it and puts it over the top. But I don't want to gripe too much, this should be a fun thread for people learning to play Sorry for derailing it a bit

Personally I'd rather be in my T110e3 or e4. Auto loaders are great... Until their empty. Correct me if I'm wrong but that beast has close to a miniute reload time.

Yeah I think one of the guns is a minute on the dot. I recently unlocked the Tortoise, so I'm finally on the way to my 183. Ahhh I can't wait. And I can't really complain about broken ass guns when I'm working towards that monster

 motyak wrote:
Yeah I think one of the guns is a minute on the dot. I recently unlocked the Tortoise, so I'm finally on the way to my 183. Ahhh I can't wait. And I can't really complain about broken ass guns when I'm working towards that monster

I just started working my way up that line, I'm only tier 6 though. Atleast with the 183 you only carry 13 rounds...

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Yeah I think one of the guns is a minute on the dot. I recently unlocked the Tortoise, so I'm finally on the way to my 183. Ahhh I can't wait. And I can't really complain about broken ass guns when I'm working towards that monster

I just started working my way up that line, I'm only tier 6 though. Atleast with the 183 you only carry 13 rounds...

It gets a bit rough at Tier 7, and the Tier 8 one I grew to love, but now that I've played the Tortoise I despise it. It struggles with Tier 10s, and can get penned in the gun mantlet by, well,a lot of people. It makes it a bit hard to run against people who know what they are doing. I found the change from the brawling AT 2 to the more snipey 8, 7 and 15 hardish to manage, I kept trying to play them the same. But still good fun.

And yeah, 13 rounds, but I'd be shocked if I ever lived long enough to run out of ammo, so it's all good.

The At 8 was a tough grind, glad I'm done with it.

 motyak wrote:
Yeah I think one of the guns is a minute on the dot.

Think that's bad? The french Tier 10 artillery has an auto-loader. Takes over a minute to reload completely, but with its insane accuracy and AoE, combined with it having several shots... well, if you can get a cluster of tanks you can cripple half the enemy team in one salvo.

My AT 15 is well acquainted with that thrice-cursed auto-loading French arty piece. I wish I was able to play arty well enough to get it ha. I'll have to settle for working my way up to the bat chat medium.

 motyak wrote:
My AT 15 is well acquainted with that thrice-cursed auto-loading French arty piece. I wish I was able to play arty well enough to get it ha. I'll have to settle for working my way up to the bat chat medium.

Either that or you can work your way up the American autoloader line, although I think the grind through the T21 might actaully kill me.

The French line leading up to the Batchat is actually pretty fun. In the right circumstances the AMX 12T can be a nasty little tank and it only gets better from there.

i always wondered what evil i could do with the french line past the AMX12t but i have just too much fun with the ELC.

the countless times i have driven straight at the enemy, shot them and driven off only to re-appear in a different location to do it all over again.
powersliding down and around a hill to get a side shot on an enemy while sideways is one of the best "WTF" generators in the game.

Yeah I enjoyed the ELC too, but I'm loving the 12t just way too much to go back. Even in tier 10 games, if you can get a good opening you can do great.

I thought this game looked interesting. Would you guys recommend it?

I definitely would. Do it completely free to start with, and if you are really enjoying it you can spend money on the premium stuff (or just to unlock XP to speed it up a bit) later on. No point throwing cash out if you end up not enjoying it.

I do think it is more fun in a platoon with a mate or two though. While solo games can be great fun, it's more entertaining if you can laugh about the ridiculous things that happen in a game with others on skype/whatever. Like that time I mounted a hellcat from behind to win the game...not even joking. http://wotreplays.com/site/762894#westfield-motyak-m18_hellcat (I derped out terribly at the start, so just fast forward right to the end for the laughs).

 Boblogik wrote:
I noticed there was a 360 thread and I figured it wouldn't hurt to start a new one for PC players to share their thoughts.

I just started WoT tanks this past week. I'm heading towards the Panther and HATING the stupid DW2... Such a lame tank. At this point I'm about ready to just load purely HE rounds because I can't penetrate anything anyways. Anyone got any advice besides "tough it out" haha?

I think every nation has 'that tank' that you just have to suffer through to get the 'good' tank.

I haven't played in two months due to life but was grinding a few tier 6 tanks trying to get to 7. Honestly I think tier 5 and 6 are the most fun.

I love my Russian heavies. The KV 2 is just pure fun.

Like the Lee. I still can't stand to try to grind my way up to a Sherman...

 Melissia wrote:
Like the Lee. I still can't stand to try to grind my way up to a Sherman...

I'm not going to lie, I spent money to skip that steaming pile.

At least I have my T-34... kind of got bored of the grind by the time I earned itthough :/

I used to play it a alot, got upto Tier 8 british TD's.

Always had the most fun in my AT7 though.

After a while I couldn't stand the grind anymore.

Now just waiting for ground warfare in WarThunder, now that looks good.

I did spend money to get garage slots. But that's it. There are too many tanks I must have.

I am almost done with the dw2 thankfully! About 1000xp left and about 130000silver to get my vk3001h. If I get a decent day of playing tomorrow, I should be good to go! Though I had my first good matchup with the dw2 today and I had an amazing game. 6 kills, a mastery badge, several other ribbons and medals and it was my first win so after the 2x, I got 1600xp... Unfortunately now my killstreak is set by the dw2 lol... Just gonna have to change that with the panther when I get it!

 Boblogik wrote:
Unfortunately now my killstreak is set by the dw2 lol... Just gonna have to change that with the panther when I get it!

I wouldn't be too worried by your stats, matchmaking being the way it is its entirely possible to be a good player and still have poor stats, especially if you are grinding up tanks. If you only played in premium tanks and fired nothing but gold ammo you could have amazing stats yet be a mediocre player at best. I consider myself a good player and I have been playing since the closed beta yet my win rate hovers around 51.8%.

The Panther is a pretty good sniper but its not much good for anything else. Excellent tanks in the real world aren't necessarily as good in WoT

This is an example I just played that gives an indication as to why win rate doesn't mean much; I caused more damage than the rest of the team put together, got 5 kills (including the T29 that got the top gun medal)and held a flank pretty much solo yet we still lost.

Nice game. One can only carry so much...

Sounds like an epic game. Oh and I know that the panther isn't going to be a super awesome tank in-game but its my favorite tank (pretty much ever across time) and so I just want to play with it I play the minis game bolt action and I field a panther in my German force even though its not cost effective by any means, though I killed my buddy's king tiger with it so that was fun :p

Maybe one day I'll go for the tiger as well but I don't want to burn myself out on the game because of too much grinding.

Oh and to the person asking about getting into the game, definitely try it out for free. Its a lot of fun, especially if you have friends to play with. I've been platooning with some friends and it makes even the instagib deaths more enjoyable. I haven't spent a dime on it yet and don't plan to, though I did get rid of some of the starters I didn't plan on playing to free up garage space for some of the tanks I wanted to keep.

I had something similar once, with a tank destroyer. Sometimes your team just sucks.

 Boblogik wrote:
Sounds like an epic game

Annoying more than anything else, there was a lot of stupid on display from my team.

If you play long enough you get free garage slots as you get free premium tanks (who come with a garage slot) every now and again. I have had 4 or 5 so far and they have all been worthless so I just sell them, the garage slot is more important than something as annoying and pathetic as a Mk VI.

Pretty much, I've gotten I think 3 so far (LTP, the little british one and another one that I forget...). But they come out very infrequently.

Oh, and if you are going to spend gold, never buy things full price. Be patient and wait for St Pats day/Rememberance Day/Some other weekend, and you'll get things half price.

 motyak wrote:
Nice game. One can only carry so much...

Unless your in a American Tier 7 heavy tank or higher then played right you can carry most anything.

I played a bit last night and I decided to unlock the American Tier 5 & 6 heavy tanks. Looking back I'm really glad I went the Sherman to Sherman Jumbo to T29 route...

What type of tanks do people like to play?, I've played medium tanks, heavy tanks, TD and arty.

One of the best tanks I enjoyed was the Russian Medium T-44 when it was fully upgraded, stock it's sucks badly, use to love scout hunting in that beast, The auto loading US T69 is also fun.

Heavy tank, Black prince is fun if players don't know it's weak spots, fast firing gun but slow. The E75 loved that tank, slow firing rate but accurate.

TD, Love the French line from T7 up the monster that is the Foch 155, fast maneuverable cover your team's flanks but long and weak sides make arty a proper pain, also with the Waffen E100 TD had made the Foch 155 abit redundant.
The Brit TD line is good up to T8 not played Tortoise or the Tv 215 183 but have been on the receiving end of 183mm cannon yep not nice!

So any ways what are people's favorite tanks?

I don't really have a favourite as such, various tanks fall out of favour all the time. I used to play my Hellcat all the time for instance but I haven't touched it in about a year.

Currently I am playing my VK36. Pz Ic and grinding up my Tiger. The KV-2 has my highest number of games played though.

 Palindrome wrote:
I don't really have a favourite as such, various tanks fall out of favour all the time. I used to play my Hellcat all the time for instance but I haven't touched it in about a year.

Currently I am playing my VK36. Pz Ic and grinding up my Tiger. The KV-2 has my highest number of games played though.

Yep, I enjoyed the VK36 when it was a medium, not played it since it was made into a heavy, the Tiger as first i was disappointed with it but once it gets upgraded it's fairly good, still found the Russian IS T7 tank a pain as close quarters.

So far my favorite is my pz iii a. Quick and a decent gun, I usually get 2 kills a game and just hit another 5 streak (second time in that tank) today.

Almost to my SU-122-54, can't wait! To all the auto loader hate, I remember the good old days when it was only America, Germany, and Russia, no auto loaders and no t10 arty, tds or meds. I now have the M48 Patton, E 50M, FV 4202, T110E3, E4, and E5. All great tanks and worth the grind.

Alittle insght, the only tricky one being the FV 4202... I loved all the tanks except the Comet, the gun is too weak. What I noticed about the line is that if you do not like the t8 Centurion, then stop playing the line there, the 7/1 and the FV play the same.

I just really like my Chaffee. Killed two t9 artillery the other day, I love the impotent rage as they try to rotate around to kill me.

Tier 9 arty players are used to being impotent, you simply added to their misery.

I love my Pz38t. It's a dinky little tier 3, but it's just *fun* to play. It's also a good break to go to low tier battles and reap some, shall we say, less than skilled tankers.

I'm currently grinding down the Japanese line; I've always liked their tanks, despite their being horribly outmatched most of the time historically. I've found them quite fun so far; reasonably mobile, accurate, decent pen guns, but generally low damage and weak armour. Very similar to playing Germans, which still represent my most-played nation. I do enjoy my Tiger and Tiger II, though I've largely given up trying to grind past the DW2; that thing is ungodly painful. I might try to horde free xp to skip it, as I would like a Panther at some point, despite itsmediocre showing in-game.

That does remain my one big gripe about WoT; the historic tanks tend to be somewhat mediocre compared to all the prototype tanks which seemingly dominate the game. Germans in particular; their iconic tanks are tiered alongside tanks designed to destroy them. The historical battle mode might help my Tiger feel less "bleh," but I've yet to be able to get a game, no one seems to be queuing for them.

I'm driving my pimped out KV-1, laughing at no longer being the easily penetrated butt monkey the T-28 was.

 Kain wrote:
I'm driving my pimped out KV-1, laughing at no longer being the easily penetrated butt monkey the T-28 was.

Just keep yourself angled, your front plate (the bit under your turret on the top of your hull, I don't know the actual term) is really easy to penetrate if you are front on.

 motyak wrote:

 Kain wrote:
I'm driving my pimped out KV-1, laughing at no longer being the easily penetrated butt monkey the T-28 was.

Just keep yourself angled, your front plate (the bit under your turret on the top of your hull, I don't know the actual term) is really easy to penetrate if you are front on.

My main fear these days are British tanks, specifically the Churchill and their near impenetrable TD, so I memorized the weak points in their armor.

But the T-28 was a terrible, terrible grind.

When I did my T28 grind they could mount an 85mm gun, it wasn't so bad

The front hull plate is the glacis plate (usually split into upper and lower)

Yeah i know those terms, but the kv1's glacis has sort of got the flatbit on top of the upper glacis. I wasn't sure if that still counted as upper glacis or not.

The whole front section of the hull is the glacis plate so it its part of the superstructure then I would imagine thats what it would be called. Its not really the armour itself there that's the issue there, its the vision block and MG port.

I got into the Warthunder Ground combat beta and its not really the game that I thought it was. I was under the impression that it would basically be WoT but prettier, its not really.

Its a lot more of an arcade game, even the 'simulation' battles, and the matchmaking is even worse than WoT (just how is a Pz II supposed to kill a KV-1?). The tank models are very nice though and I think that my favourite thing about them is how the driver obviously shifts gears making the tank lurch in a realistic and pleasing manner.

 Palindrome wrote:
The whole front section of the hull is the glacis plate so it its part of the superstructure then I would imagine thats what it would be called. Its not really the armour itself there that's the issue there, its the vision block and MG port.

I got into the Warthunder Ground combat beta and its not really the game that I thought it was. I was under the impression that it would basically be WoT but prettier, its not really.

Its a lot more of an arcade game, even the 'simulation' battles, and the matchmaking is even worse than WoT (just how is a Pz II supposed to kill a KV-1?). The tank models are very nice though and I think that my favourite thing about them is how the driver obviously shifts gears making the tank lurch in a realistic and pleasing manner.

Hmm, I was under the impression that WoT's was actually the arcade style game, Ground Forces being the much more historically acurate game given their tanks lack of health pools.

I played the beta for a bit, it's not my type of game though.

Palindrome isn't the first I've heard say that about warthunder ground. Though I've heard lots of good things about the air combat. Unlike world of warplanes, which I've been told to not bother with.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

Hmm, I was under the impression that WoT's was actually the arcade style game, Ground Forces being the much more historically acurate game given their tanks lack of health pools.

They may lack health pools but they have critical component damage instead, it seems to me that tanks take about as many hits to pop in warthunder as they do in WoT. The gameplay itself isn't very smooth either. On the whole WoT is a superior game which is a bit of a shame really as Warthunder does look a lot nicer (aside from the terrain) and I would like WoT to have some robust competition to force Wargaming to up their game.

World of warplanes and warthunder are very similar games and I didn't like either of them

2x xp all day event tomorrow. Or so I think I remember reading...

 Palindrome wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Unfortunately now my killstreak is set by the dw2 lol... Just gonna have to change that with the panther when I get it!

I wouldn't be too worried by your stats, matchmaking being the way it is its entirely possible to be a good player and still have poor stats, especially if you are grinding up tanks. If you only played in premium tanks and fired nothing but gold ammo you could have amazing stats yet be a mediocre player at best. I consider myself a good player and I have been playing since the closed beta yet my win rate hovers around 51.8%.

The Panther is a pretty good sniper but its not much good for anything else. Excellent tanks in the real world aren't necessarily as good in WoT

This is an example I just played that gives an indication as to why win rate doesn't mean much; I caused more damage than the rest of the team put together, got 5 kills (including the T29 that got the top gun medal)and held a flank pretty much solo yet we still lost.

Agreed ... WoT is very much pay for power in that respect.

I mean I'd understand that wargames sells tanks, since that is not always buying power, but Premium Ammo .... that is not fair :(

LockNExt wrote:

I mean I'd understand that wargames sells tanks, since that is not always buying power, but Premium Ammo .... that is not fair :(

Well you can buy premium ammo with ingame credits and premium ammo doesn't mean that you will penetrate even if you hit. It doesn't really bother me that much and a lot of people who complain about gold ammo are actually getting hit by AP rounds fired by people who know how to aim.

Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

 motyak wrote:
Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

Yeah, people don't realize the hellcat is really powerful (A bit too much so imo). People just get upset that they (or their tank) are underperforming, especially if the tank is historically good but not the greatest in-game...

 Boblogik wrote:

 motyak wrote:
Yeah, I often cop abuse in my hellcat for being a gold-spamming noob, when I haven't even fired a round of the stuff that game. Fools.

Yeah, people don't realize the hellcat is really powerful (A bit too much so imo). People just get upset that they (or their tank) are underperforming, especially if the tank is historically good but not the greatest in-game...

Well I have gotten that abuse it in most of my tanks (hell even my AT2), but the hellcat is the one that repeatedly gets it. And yeah it has a nasty gun and pace, but does suffer for lack of armour etc, I think it's a pretty fairly balanced little machine. Until you get those confrontation teams full of them, then the enemy just gets 1-2-3'd before he can react. But that was more confrontation's fault than the hellcat's

Anyone take advantage of the 2x xp yesterday? I got my new turret for my vk3002m and the new suspension for it but came 4k shy of a new engine.

Hope you all got to enjoy the x2 xp for every victory yesterday! I sure did, got out of the Leopard, Su-101, Lorraine, and the T69! More than Half way through the Vk 2801 and the Kv-3. Made enough money to buy the Su-122-54 so now I only need to save the money for the T9 Vk and my 7th T10.

If you did not get to engoy the pools of XP remember that this weekend is x3 for you first Victory of the day!

 Ruberu wrote:
Hope you all got to enjoy the x2 xp for every victory yesterday! I sure did, got out of the Leopard, Su-101, Lorraine, and the T69! More than Half way through the Vk 2801 and the Kv-3. Made enough money to buy the Su-122-54 so now I only need to save the money for the T9 Vk and my 7th T10.

If you did not get to engoy the pools of XP remember that this weekend is x3 for you first Victory of the day!

Wow you were busy! I got lumped with poor teams a bunch, I think I only got the bonus 12 times, really helped me knock out upgrades for my vk 30.02 m and getting closer to getting my vk 30.01 h to elite status.

Oh and not only is it 3x xp for first win but for tiers 2-5 you get an extra 50% credits increase win or lose every game! And a 50% off all tier 2-5 vehicles credit costs and 50% off premium vehicles as well if you're someone who goes for those. Gonna help me get out of my marder ii and into the arty option (already went the hetzer route for my td line).

I sure was busy! I'm lucky enough to have a good friend that works the same night shift as I do, and even more lucky that we had the night off. To be fair, some of thoughs tanks I only had maybe 20k xp left. The bad one was the Lorraine, I had about 60k xp to go! I managed to get 4000 xp on the first x3 on Friday morning and that finished it for me.

Sadly the xp weekend was right before finals, so I was studying. Meh!

That's life.

Has everyone seen the upcoming T34 event?

100k XP in tier 4 and up vehicles for every nation gets you a free T34. There is also a mission that rewards free garage slots up to 5 times. I also think I remember seeing something about 100 gold garage slots.

What? Link?

 motyak wrote:
What? Link?

Unfortunatly I'm at work and can't give you one. Now that I think about this though, it might be a North American only event.

Eh I play on the NA servers anyway. I asked my mate who normally tells me about all these things and he sent me the link

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/operation-t34/

So I'll probably end up with a free garage slot and (maybe) 2 days premium. Not bad.

 motyak wrote:
Eh I play on the NA servers anyway. I asked my mate who normally tells me about all these things and he sent me the link

http://worldoftanks.com/en/news/22/operation-t34/

So I'll probably end up with a free garage slot and (maybe) 2 days premium. Not bad.

It's a pretty long running event plus I belive it's going to overlap with Memorial Day weekend which is usually a 5x weekend.

You have to get 700,000k exp (and probably a bit more depending on how good a player you are) to get the T34.

No thanks.

Oh yeah, I don't expect to get that in the least. I do expect to get a garage slot and maybe the premium once/twice as a very, very outside chance.

 motyak wrote:
Oh yeah, I don't expect to get that in the least. I do expect to get a garage slot and maybe the premium once/twice as a very, very outside chance.

For the the American, British and Russian parts won't be that hard especially if I can count on my daily doubles. The Chinese and Japanese might actually kill me though.,..

I lack a Tier 4 in German, Japanese and Russian, and I just don't think it's worth it to grind out tanks that I don't think I'll really enjoy just to get a tank that I didn't buy when I did buy my Tier 8 premium.

I quit WoT a few months ago. I had a few tier 9 soviets and some tier 8 germans.

I ultimately got tired of the game's pace - in higher tiered matches you absolutely have to play carefully and stay in cover 90% of the time. It just got annoying to sit in a bush for 5 mins waiting for a target and then finally lining up your sights - only to have the shot bounce. Also it really sucks when a random shot blows your ammo rack 1 minute into a match.

I've started playing WoWP and it is much more my style of gameplay. I might go back to WoT after I've had a long enough break.

 motyak wrote:
I lack a Tier 4 in German, Japanese and Russian, and I just don't think it's worth it to grind out tanks that I don't think I'll really enjoy just to get a tank that I didn't buy when I did buy my Tier 8 premium.

I bought my T26E4 fairly early on mostly when I was playing mainly medium tanks, it was my highest tier vehicle at the time... Then I unlocked the T29, T32 and M103 and saw that the T34 is what I was hoping the T32 was. I've never been able to convince myself to buy another Tier 8 premium tank though. Don't get me wrong I've had some amazingly fun games in my Super Pershing, but the gun is definatly lacking.

The German line has some odd spots especially at Tier 4. I definatly recommend trying to skip over the DW2 using free xp, but the VK 30.01H fully upgraded is a lot of fun. My favorite German tank so far is my Luchs, it shares a special place with my TOG2, it's just so much fun to use.

Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

I still enjoyed it more then the M3 Lee grind. Both tanks suck, but both tanks bring you two an awsome Tier 5.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

I still enjoyed it more then the M3 Lee grind. Both tanks suck, but both tanks bring you two an awsome Tier 5.

True, I suppose. I sitll haven't managed to grind past the lee, mind you.

 Melissia wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, the douchewagon2 is pretty universally hated.

I still enjoyed it more then the M3 Lee grind. Both tanks suck, but both tanks bring you two an awsome Tier 5.

True, I suppose. I sitll haven't managed to grind past the lee, mind you.

It was rough. When I did it I didn't have any free XP at the time, it was the first tree I went up.

Treat the Lee like a TD and it will do ok. Its got useless camo, a huge silhouette and dubious armour but at least its gun is reasonable.

Yeah, while I played it 'I tended to do that. Even put a camo net on it, for what little good that did.

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, while I played it 'I tended to do that. Even put a camo net on it, for what little good that did.

It's base camo rating is pretty bad though. I put the M3 Lee in the same position as the T25 AT, there is no reason for it to exsist.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, while I played it 'I tended to do that. Even put a camo net on it, for what little good that did.

It's base camo rating is pretty bad though. I put the M3 Lee in the same position as the T25 AT, there is no reason for it to exsist.

Sure there is. M4 drivers deserve to suffer for running with that damn derp gun all the time

 motyak wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, while I played it 'I tended to do that. Even put a camo net on it, for what little good that did.

It's base camo rating is pretty bad though. I put the M3 Lee in the same position as the T25 AT, there is no reason for it to exsist.

Sure there is. M4 drivers deserve to suffer for running with that damn derp gun all the time

90% of the time I run my M4 with the 76mm. The 105mm derp only comes out sometimes on weekends when I go noob hunting only firing premium ammo... I'm a bad bad man.

The Kv-2 is still the undisputed king of seal clubbing. It doesn't even require gold rounds (in fact its gold rounds are rather pointless).

I think I will start on the Us heavy line so its back to the M3 Lee for me, only 14k exp to unlock the T1.

Apparently the Lee has the highest (potential) DPM of any tank up to tier V. Its good for something after all

 Palindrome wrote:
The Kv-2 is still the undisputed king of seal clubbing. It doesn't even require gold rounds (in fact its gold rounds are rather pointless).

I think I will start on the Us heavy line so its back to the M3 Lee for me, only 14k exp to unlock the T1

I don't really like the KV-2, it's one of those vehicles I just don't get excited about... I'd rather play my T-150.

If you want to go down the American heavy tank line don't bother with the T1 Heavy or the M6. Instead unlock the M4 and M4A3E2 and take those to the T29. The only benefit to unlocking the M6 is that you'll start the grind on the T29 with the 90mm gun unlocked. In my opinion thats not a good enough reason to suffer through the T1 Heavy and the M6. I might be slightly biest though, the M4A3E2 (Sherman Jumbo) is hands down my favorite tank in the game.

I never liked my T-150 much, it just doesn't have much going for it in my view. My KV-2 has been a staple of my game since with was the KV-1. Its not as good as it used to be and it has some glaring weaknesses but one shotting people (even tier VIIs..) is just too much fun.

I have unlocked (but never used) the Jumbo mostly because I never liked the M4 much. The M6 seems like quite a decent tank though, if nothing else its pretty bouncy and I like bouncy tanks.

I bought a Jumbo (its a lot less grindy if I can sidestep tier 5 entirely) and I'm not that impressed with it. Its armour is decent(ish) but not that good and its gun isn't particularly inspiring, the second 76mm does get a nice ROF buff but I am finding the first 76mm to be very bouncy and it has identical pen and damage. The worst thing about it though is that I am nearly constantly in tier 8 games and the Jumbo is completely hopeless in those situations. It can't pen most things and even if it does it does negligible damage (I managed a whole 7% on an STA-1) and it may as well be unarmoured.

As usual with WoT the matchmaker really does its best to leach all the fun out of the game.

 Palindrome wrote:
I never liked my T-150 much, it just doesn't have much going for it in my view. My KV-2 has been a staple of my game since with was the KV-1. Its not as good as it used to be and it has some glaring weaknesses but one shotting people (even tier VIIs..) is just too much fun.

I have unlocked (but never used) the Jumbo mostly because I never liked the M4 much. The M6 seems like quite a decent tank though, if nothing else its pretty bouncy and I like bouncy tanks.

I bought a Jumbo (its a lot less grindy if I can sidestep tier 5 entirely) and I'm not that impressed with it. Its armour is decent(ish) but not that good and its gun isn't particularly inspiring, the second 76mm does get a nice ROF buff but I am finding the first 76mm to be very bouncy and it has identical pen and damage. The worst thing about it though is that I am nearly constantly in tier 8 games and the Jumbo is completely hopeless in those situations. It can't pen most things and even if it does it does negligible damage (I managed a whole 7% on an STA-1) and it may as well be unarmoured.

As usual with WoT the matchmaker really does its best to leach all the fun out of the game.

The T-150 is a nice middle ground for me, it's not as fast and manuverable as the KV 1S but it's slightly better armoured. I tend to have problems over extending myself with fast tanks and the slower T-150 keeps me from doing this. It's the same reason why I prefer my Jackson over my Hellcat. Sure there may be a vehicle with less cons, but this is one of those times when a con is actually a pro in my case.

I think it just boils down to I'd rather have reliable consistent damage then have the ability to maybe one shot something.

In the M6 don't plan on reliably bounching anything larger then a 76mm.... The Jumbo is actually better armored then the M6(and most other tanks in it's tier), you just have to make sure your angling the massive target that is it's upper plate. The Jumbos biggest weakness is actually the same weakness the M6 has, it's turret front... Both can be reliably penetrated by most things it's tier and higher.

The M6 does get the 90mm which is nice when your the top tier in a match but in my opinion doesn't scale particularly well. To be honest if I had to use either gun in a tier 8 match I'd pick the 76mm over the 90mm. The rate of fire on the 76mm is fantastic, I can get off 3 to 4 shots for every one the 90mm fires. In the Jumbo when your in tier 6 and 7 games you can use it's armor and play similarly to a heavy tank. Once you go up to tier 8 just pretend that it doesn't have armor and play it like a medium. I've done really well with the 76mm in higher tier games, right now I'm grinding my way through the T21 so I can get the T71 and I've had a couple tier 8 games where I've done 2500 to 3000 damage.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

The T-150 is a nice middle ground for me, it's not as fast and manuverable as the KV 1S but it's slightly better armoured. I tend to have problems over extending myself with fast tanks and the slower T-150 keeps me from doing this. It's the same reason why I prefer my Jackson over my Hellcat. Sure there may be a vehicle with less cons, but this is one of those times when a con is actually a pro in my case.

I find myself doing the same thing in my vk3002m. It's actually quite fast and I don't realize how far I end up going until it's too late. I've been getting better about it though.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

I think it just boils down to I'd rather have reliable consistent damage then have the ability to maybe one shot something.

The KV-2 has an extremely reliable damage output. Its DPS isn't great and the 152mm has hopeless accuracy (but against stationary targets it is accurate enough, my KV-2 has several sniper medals) but its extremely rare for shells to bounce, if it hits something it will damage it, usually severely and it does a lot of module damage as well. Even if you miss you can still do damage, I once killed a Hetzer by hitting the tank next to it

Its the ultimate support tank, it will lose to most things 1 Vs 1 but played intelligently just behind the front line it can, and does, win games.

I found the T-150 to be too similar to the KV-1 so I sold it.

The Jumbo sees far too many tier 8 games...

 Palindrome wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

I think it just boils down to I'd rather have reliable consistent damage then have the ability to maybe one shot something.

The KV-2 has an extremely reliable damage output. Its DPS isn't great and the 152mm has hopeless accuracy (but against stationary targets it is accurate enough, my KV-2 has several sniper medals) but its extremely rare for shells to bounce, if it hits something it will damage it, usually severely and it does a lot of module damage as well. Even if you miss you can still do damage, I once killed a Hetzer by hitting the tank next to it

Its the ultimate support tank, it will lose to most things 1 Vs 1 but played intelligently just behind the front line it can, and does, win games.

I found the T-150 to be too similar to the KV-1 so I sold it.

The Jumbo sees far too many tier 8 games...

To each their own, I'm just not a fan of derp. I know that the KV-2 is a powerful tank and that people enjoy it a lot, but it's just not for me and my play style.

The T-150 is similar to the KV-1, thats why I like it. It's a good all around tank and builds on what the KV-1 laid out.

My Jumbo doesn't see that many Tier 8 games, I played 10 games in it last night and only got into 1 game with Tier 8's... I'll have to see if i can find it's actual Match Maker formula.

I started down the Japanese tech tree last night in an effort to get something going to the T34 event... Man am I underwhelmed by Japanese tanks...

I had a better set of mm today with my vk30.02m. I was shocked, I got top tier or mid tier 50% of the time instead of 5%... needless to say, I had a good game day!

 Catyrpelius wrote:

The Jumbos biggest weakness is actually the same weakness the M6 has, it's turret front... Both can be reliably penetrated by most things it's tier and higher.

The stock turret has 150mm of armour all round (250mm on the mantlet), thats 30% thicker than the tier IX Patton and is pretty much impenetrable as it doesn't really have any weakspots, even the cupola has 150mm of armour. I'm not going to bother upgrading the turret given that the top gun's only benefit is a slight ROF increase.

I'm still not enjoying this tank as it sees too many tier 8 games which it simply can't handle. It is however amazing at tanking on reverse slopes, I just held off 4 tier VIIs and a KV-2 on the lakeville pass for a suprisingly long time before their arty got me.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

The Jumbos biggest weakness is actually the same weakness the M6 has, it's turret front... Both can be reliably penetrated by most things it's tier and higher.

The stock turret has 150mm of armour all round (250mm on the mantlet), thats 30% thicker than the tier IX Patton and is pretty much impenetrable as it doesn't really have any weakspots, even the cupola has 150mm of armour. I'm not going to bother upgrading the turret given that the top gun's only benefit is a slight ROF increase.

I'm still not enjoying this tank as it sees too many tier 8 games which it simply can't handle. It is however amazing at tanking on reverse slopes, I just held off 4 tier VIIs and a KV-2 on the lakeville pass for a suprisingly long time before their arty got me.

It's still better then the M6... The American heavy line doesn't get good until you've fully unlocked the T29. You can do some amazing things in the T29 when you get it hull down. The T32 is just and upgrade of the T29 and is a bit underwhelming, mostly due to it's gun.

WoT in a nutshell

Well its the B1's fault for platooning with tier 10 tanks....

WoT is not a pay to win game though. Premium tanks are for the most part average and everything else can be bought with in game currency.

Yeah, WoT is anything but balanced. But it's definitely not pay to win.

 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, WoT is anything but balanced. But it's definitely not pay to win.

Especially since premium consumables can all be bought with credits.

I agree, definitely not pay to win. Not saying paying players don't get an edge though. I probably won't spend anything on the game except maybe perma camo for my favorite tanks one day.

I wish I could've played today though, missing out on 240000 credits is a bummer, especially since I only got a short bit to play yesterday. Just going to have to make up the difference tomorrow I finally slapped a gld and rammer on my vk 30.02 m so that's helpful and it's fully upgraded, now just working towards my panther. My buddy just got his tiger so I need to catch up.

i rather enjoy my panzer III Aussf A been annoying the heck out of people with it. but my panzer IV Aussf A is awful i never manage to get it to survive long. and WoT's isn't pay to win.

Why would you pay money tog et camo netting? It's like the cheapest thing to get... and it's permanent.

 Melissia wrote:
Why would you pay money tog et camo netting? It's like the cheapest thing to get... and it's permanent.

I think he means the tank painting, which also gives a camo rating, but costs gold.

Ah, that makes much more sense. Didn't know it gave camo rating though.

 Melissia wrote:
Ah, that makes much more sense. Didn't know it gave camo rating though.

Yeah, it's a minimal buff I think, a couple of % no more.

I found this searching the forums, not sure if it's accurate but sounds close to how I've had it explained to me

In many ways Paint works the same way as a net with a couple of differences. Light and medium tanks get a 3 point improvement to the base camo value, Heavy Tanks and SPG get a 2 point improvement and Tank Destroyers get a 4 point improvement. The key difference is that paint works while the vehicle is moving but its effectiveness when shooting is tied to the base camo of the tank. That means than an ELC AMX will get a 3 point improvement to camo rating when moving or stationary but only a 0.71 point improvement when shooting.

I have now had 3 sessions with the Jumbo and I have not had 1 enjoyable match. Yes it is well armoured but its gun is hopeless and when in higher tier games even its armour isn't any good. It doesn't help that I seem to always end up in gak teams either.

So basically that's how I felt about the T-50, except replace armor with speed

 Melissia wrote:
Why would you pay money tog et camo netting? It's like the cheapest thing to get... and it's permanent.

I meant paint camo, and only to make my tanks look good since the effect will be very little on the large hull of the panther and proto-panther...

I occasionally get a premium account if I know that I will be playing a lot over the month. It cuts down on the grind

 Palindrome wrote:
I have now had 3 sessions with the Jumbo and I have not had 1 enjoyable match. Yes it is well armoured but its gun is hopeless and when in higher tier games even its armour isn't any good. It doesn't help that I seem to always end up in gak teams either.

Have you fully unlocked it yet?

 Catyrpelius wrote:


Have you fully unlocked it yet?

Near enough. I'm not going to bother with the 'top' turret so I'm staying with the 1st 76mm which is identical to the 2nd except a slightly slower ROF. It can take hits well if it can find its way into a good position, although it is quite vulnerable if flanked, but its effective dps is just too low. Basically I'm not very impressed with it

I think I'm going to talk a WOT sabbatical though as the match maker is annoying me too much.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:


Have you fully unlocked it yet?

Near enough. I'm not going to bother with the 'top' turret so I'm staying with the 1st 76mm which is identical to the 2nd except a slightly slower ROF. It can take hits well if it can find its way into a good position, although it is quite vulnerable if flanked, but its effective dps is just too low. Basically I'm not very impressed with it

I think I'm going to talk a WOT sabbatical though as the match maker is annoying me too much.

There are actually a bunch of hidden stats that make the second gun a substantial improvement over the 1st 76mm. Mostly though it's that the second gun has a substantially better dispersion within the aiming circle... The second gun is more likely to have the shot actually land in the center of the aiming circle then the first 76mm.

Welcome to well armored American tanks... Apparently American tank building doctrine during the 40's to 60's didn't belive sides and backs of tanks actually exsisted.

The alpha damage of the American 76mm is very low, but the DPM is actually really high. It's much better then the American 90mm. You've got to keep the gun working to get any substantial amount of damage out of it though.

Try getting the better turret also. Its another hidden thing that the upgraded turrets also increase ROF. Not all of them mind you, but most.

Jumbos lead the way!


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I love the T-150. When they first added it I got it for free and sold it before I even tried it. Bought it back and fell in love with it and I still have it.

I used to play the KV-2 all the time until they made it tier 6, not because I stopped liking it, but they got rid of all my stats and crew and left them on the KV-1.


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I love the T-150. When they first added it I got it for free and sold it before I even tried it. Bought it back and fell in love with it and I still have it.

I used to play the KV-2 all the time until they made it tier 6, not because I stopped liking it, but they got rid of all my stats and crew and left them on the KV-1.

I have got back to tankning. Got my IS but didn't have enough free xp to upgrade the gun. So it sucks fighting tier 7+ with that 85mm.

I love my Russian heavies. I have the KV-1, KV-1S, and KV-2. Haven't decided whether or not to get the T-150 yet or not. I have it researched. But having all three Tier 6 tanks seems a little overkill.

What I am disappointed in is that I spent free xp on upgrading the Hetzer and I got the deep gun. I hate it. So now I need to grind to get the upgraded 76 mm.

 SickSix wrote:
I have got back to tankning. Got my IS but didn't have enough free xp to upgrade the gun. So it sucks fighting tier 7+ with that 85mm.

I love my Russian heavies. I have the KV-1, KV-1S, and KV-2. Haven't decided whether or not to get the T-150 yet or not. I have it researched. But having all three Tier 6 tanks seems a little overkill.

What I am disappointed in is that I spent free xp on upgrading the Hetzer and I got the deep gun. I hate it. So now I need to grind to get the upgraded 76 mm.

I only currently own a KV-1 and T-150, I've unlocked the KV-2 and KV-1S. I like the T150 alot but I'm in no rush to push past it because whatever it unlocks won't be nearly as good as my T29.

I spent most of my free XP awhile back to unlock my ELC AMX and AMX 12T...

 Ruberu wrote:
Try getting the better turret also. Its another hidden thing that the upgraded turrets also increase ROF. Not all of them mind you, but most.

The 'upgraded' turret has half as much armour as the stock turret. It does give more hit points, has a better view range and it can fit a (slightly) better gun but in my view a near impenetrable turret (assuming that you are top tier) is a lot better than a fairly average one. Its not really its lack of accuracy that I dislike about the 76mm, I am used to Soviet heavies and the Jumbo is an assault tank anyway, its its seeming inability to penetrate that I find frustrating.

When the KV was split I got a 100% crew for both the KV-1 and KV-2, I think I even had my upgrades cloned.

I seem to make the most consistent money with my KV-1. I have learned to love the 85mm over the derp. I unlocked the 107 mm on my KV-2 and kinda like it. (Which unlocks it for the T-150 as well)

I watched Jingles video on the T-150 and it has got me interested. I just love the Russian heavies so much.

The 'best' gun for the KV-1 is the 57mm. It has good penetration and accuracy but most importantly a 100% crew can get a round off every 2.03 seconds. Its situational but if you are top tier you will shred near enough anything. People dont expect it so take risks thinking that you will be spending ages reloading so they give you an opportunity to blow their tracks off and kill them at your leasure.

The 107mm on the KV-2 is a waste. The KV-2 should be running the derp gun. If you want to use the 107 the T-150 is far better as it actually has armour.

Off work for the next two days so I am going to start working on the a-44 (I thinks thats what it is called) for the on tracks event. Also going to continue the grind to unstock my KV-4. Need to work on my Jagdpanther 2 some more so I can replace it with the at-15 I unlocked a long while ago. I try to keep the number of same tier/type tanks down so I dont get over loaded.

 Ruberu wrote:
Off work for the next two days so I am going to start working on the a-44 (I thinks thats what it is called) for the on tracks event. Also going to continue the grind to unstock my KV-4. Need to work on my Jagdpanther 2 some more so I can replace it with the at-15 I unlocked a long while ago. I try to keep the number of same tier/type tanks down so I dont get over loaded.

I was thinking about going down the a-44 line, it might be pretty easy to pair with my grind for a free T34.

Hopefully this weekend I can finish off the 100k XP needed for the Russians and the Germans, which would leave me with just France, Japan and China to finish off.

Had a great game last night in my 3002m. I got 7 kills (8 if you count an accidental team kill, shot went wide and blew up a poor friendly hellcat when I fired on the move). And I had a great game in my 3001h as well with a 6-kill game. Today stinks though, I couldn't hardly get a win. At least I keep in the top 10 and get a kill most games. MM seems to be paying me back 100fold for those 2 good games yesterday lol, throwing me in almost only tier 8 matches.

 Boblogik wrote:
Had a great game last night in my 3002m. I got 7 kills (8 if you count an accidental team kill, shot went wide and blew up a poor friendly hellcat when I fired on the move). And I had a great game in my 3001h as well with a 6-kill game. Today stinks though, I couldn't hardly get a win. At least I keep in the top 10 and get a kill most games. MM seems to be paying me back 100fold for those 2 good games yesterday lol, throwing me in almost only tier 8 matches.

I think time of day has more to do with it then anything. When I'm off during the week I usually wait until 4 to 5 pm, when people are home from school and done with work for the day.

I really like my 30.01H, going from the DW2 to it was one of the sweetest transitions I've encountered yet in this game.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Had a great game last night in my 3002m. I got 7 kills (8 if you count an accidental team kill, shot went wide and blew up a poor friendly hellcat when I fired on the move). And I had a great game in my 3001h as well with a 6-kill game. Today stinks though, I couldn't hardly get a win. At least I keep in the top 10 and get a kill most games. MM seems to be paying me back 100fold for those 2 good games yesterday lol, throwing me in almost only tier 8 matches.

I think time of day has more to do with it then anything. When I'm off during the week I usually wait until 4 to 5 pm, when people are home from school and done with work for the day.

I really like my 30.01H, going from the DW2 to it was one of the sweetest transitions I've encountered yet in this game.

It was a great transition. Going from not penetrating anything and being killed super easy to being able to take hits and actually deal damage (the L/70 is even top gun on the 3002 if you're not familiar) was amazing. I kept my 3001 because I enjoy the tank and I intend to get the Tiger I at some point.

I'll have to remember that, I played early in the day today because I had the day off. Now that I think about it, you're right, my best games have been more often in the evenings.

 Boblogik wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Had a great game last night in my 3002m. I got 7 kills (8 if you count an accidental team kill, shot went wide and blew up a poor friendly hellcat when I fired on the move). And I had a great game in my 3001h as well with a 6-kill game. Today stinks though, I couldn't hardly get a win. At least I keep in the top 10 and get a kill most games. MM seems to be paying me back 100fold for those 2 good games yesterday lol, throwing me in almost only tier 8 matches.

I think time of day has more to do with it then anything. When I'm off during the week I usually wait until 4 to 5 pm, when people are home from school and done with work for the day.

I really like my 30.01H, going from the DW2 to it was one of the sweetest transitions I've encountered yet in this game.

It was a great transition. Going from not penetrating anything and being killed super easy to being able to take hits and actually deal damage (the L/70 is even top gun on the 3002 if you're not familiar) was amazing. I kept my 3001 because I enjoy the tank and I intend to get the Tiger I at some point.

I'll have to remember that, I played early in the day today because I had the day off. Now that I think about it, you're right, my best games have been more often in the evenings.

Definatly, and I've also found that the matchmaker seems to be alittle easier on me later in the day...

I'm working my way up to a Tiger I, lack of credits is slowing me down though. I've got too many different lines I'm working on at once.

i stick to about two tanks at a time running a panzer IV D and a light at the moment.

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:

 Catyrpelius wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Had a great game last night in my 3002m. I got 7 kills (8 if you count an accidental team kill, shot went wide and blew up a poor friendly hellcat when I fired on the move). And I had a great game in my 3001h as well with a 6-kill game. Today stinks though, I couldn't hardly get a win. At least I keep in the top 10 and get a kill most games. MM seems to be paying me back 100fold for those 2 good games yesterday lol, throwing me in almost only tier 8 matches.

I think time of day has more to do with it then anything. When I'm off during the week I usually wait until 4 to 5 pm, when people are home from school and done with work for the day.

I really like my 30.01H, going from the DW2 to it was one of the sweetest transitions I've encountered yet in this game.

It was a great transition. Going from not penetrating anything and being killed super easy to being able to take hits and actually deal damage (the L/70 is even top gun on the 3002 if you're not familiar) was amazing. I kept my 3001 because I enjoy the tank and I intend to get the Tiger I at some point.

I'll have to remember that, I played early in the day today because I had the day off. Now that I think about it, you're right, my best games have been more often in the evenings.

Definatly, and I've also found that the matchmaker seems to be alittle easier on me later in the day...

I'm working my way up to a Tiger I, lack of credits is slowing me down though. I've got too many different lines I'm working on at once.

i think if you saw how many tanks i have unlocked awaiting purchase you might cry. At one time i had 5or 6 tier 8 tanks unlocked and awaiting funds, i think i have just 2 left.

I have my T110E5 unlocked but I've never been able to hold onto 6 million credits to buy it, I also have the T20 (American Tier 7 medium) unlocked, and what ever comes after the Stug IIIG

I'm about 8k xp and 800k silver from my panther. Getting close to my 3601 as well. I'm loving the 2x crew xp though. My 3002 crew's first skills are at 65% already.

I have a lot of tanks awaiting purchase at the moment. Still waiting to get my new T10 and lots of T8s. Credot issues and I'm working on too many tanks at the moment anyway to buy new ones. Still have 2 stock T9s i'm working on.

Did not end up getting the A-44 my two days off. One day was great and used my KV-4 a lot unlocking the tracks and turret! The next day was complete fail and every battle was two tiers higher than me. T10 in a stock T8 sucks!!! The teams were horrible and the enemy teams arty was on my stock tanks like stink on ****. One game I took two T10 arty and one T9 arty in a matter of 4 seconds. Another game I got sniped across the map by a WT E 100. Took all four shots because I was too slow to get out of the way. Died in fire...


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I forgot about the game I stopped playing after it was over. I was in one of my stock tier 9s this time. Game was going pretty good at the start, me and two others were in a platoon, my WZ-120, a T54 and a Jagdtiger. Two of us took on three tanks and killed them with our jagdtiger over watching us. After killing them we started moving, FULL speed our T54 got one shotted by arty, all 1650 hitpoints! Then I got hit a couple times and the same arty shot me while is was behind a rock killing me. That same arty then one shotted our FV Hesh Launcher aka the death star or FV215b 183. after that, same arty killed 5 more of our tanks and the started capping our base. My platoon mate in the Jagdtiger goes after him but the arty keeped circling a rock, faster than any tier 10 arty should be able to move, he capped and we lost. The arty doing the killing, Obj 261. Shots fired 10, shots hit 10, full base cap and 9000ish damage...

 Ruberu wrote:
I have a lot of tanks awaiting purchase at the moment. Still waiting to get my new T10 and lots of T8s. Credot issues and I'm working on too many tanks at the moment anyway to buy new ones. Still have 2 stock T9s i'm working on.

Did not end up getting the A-44 my two days off. One day was great and used my KV-4 a lot unlocking the tracks and turret! The next day was complete fail and every battle was two tiers higher than me. T10 in a stock T8 sucks!!! The teams were horrible and the enemy teams arty was on my stock tanks like stink on ****. One game I took two T10 arty and one T9 arty in a matter of 4 seconds. Another game I got sniped across the map by a WT E 100. Took all four shots because I was too slow to get out of the way. Died in fire...


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I forgot about the game I stopped playing after it was over. I was in one of my stock tier 9s this time. Game was going pretty good at the start, me and two others were in a platoon, my WZ-120, a T54 and a Jagdtiger. Two of us took on three tanks and killed them with our jagdtiger over watching us. After killing them we started moving, FULL speed our T54 got one shotted by arty, all 1650 hitpoints! Then I got hit a couple times and the same arty shot me while is was behind a rock killing me. That same arty then one shotted our FV Hesh Launcher aka the death star or FV215b 183. after that, same arty killed 5 more of our tanks and the started capping our base. My platoon mate in the Jagdtiger goes after him but the arty keeped circling a rock, faster than any tier 10 arty should be able to move, he capped and we lost. The arty doing the killing, Obj 261. Shots fired 10, shots hit 10, full base cap and 9000ish damage...

sounds legit.

 Ruberu wrote:

I forgot about the game I stopped playing after it was over. I was in one of my stock tier 9s this time. Game was going pretty good at the start, me and two others were in a platoon, my WZ-120, a T54 and a Jagdtiger. Two of us took on three tanks and killed them with our jagdtiger over watching us. After killing them we started moving, FULL speed our T54 got one shotted by arty, all 1650 hitpoints! Then I got hit a couple times and the same arty shot me while is was behind a rock killing me. That same arty then one shotted our FV Hesh Launcher aka the death star or FV215b 183. after that, same arty killed 5 more of our tanks and the started capping our base. My platoon mate in the Jagdtiger goes after him but the arty keeped circling a rock, faster than any tier 10 arty should be able to move, he capped and we lost. The arty doing the killing, Obj 261. Shots fired 10, shots hit 10, full base cap and 9000ish damage...

It is possible, arty is hopelessly inaccurate usually but if you know how to aim and get lucky you can hit fast tanks, I myself have killed several scouts moving at full speed. Hiding behind rocks isn't complete protection, especially from arty with a very high trajectory. It sound to me that the arty player was simply good and knew how to play arty.

i'm loving my panzer IV D even without the best gun i'm annoying bigger tanks by wrecking there tracks. can;t wait till i get to the tier 5 Panzer IV H.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Ruberu wrote:

I forgot about the game I stopped playing after it was over. I was in one of my stock tier 9s this time. Game was going pretty good at the start, me and two others were in a platoon, my WZ-120, a T54 and a Jagdtiger. Two of us took on three tanks and killed them with our jagdtiger over watching us. After killing them we started moving, FULL speed our T54 got one shotted by arty, all 1650 hitpoints! Then I got hit a couple times and the same arty shot me while is was behind a rock killing me. That same arty then one shotted our FV Hesh Launcher aka the death star or FV215b 183. after that, same arty killed 5 more of our tanks and the started capping our base. My platoon mate in the Jagdtiger goes after him but the arty keeped circling a rock, faster than any tier 10 arty should be able to move, he capped and we lost. The arty doing the killing, Obj 261. Shots fired 10, shots hit 10, full base cap and 9000ish damage...

It is possible, arty is hopelessly inaccurate usually but if you know how to aim and get lucky you can hit fast tanks, I myself have killed several scouts moving at full speed. Hiding behind rocks isn't complete protection, especially from arty with a very high trajectory. It sound to me that the arty player was simply good and knew how to play arty.

I was mad as hell when it happened. He had 46 battles in his 261, but we can all agree that we have had our days that RNG was on our side and he had a really good day . Even I have done some crazy things in arty before I stopped playing them. Some people know arty and do it really well, others like me prefer light tanks a meds.

Well I just got my 2 free days of premium, and holy moly the credit difference is amazing. I still won't pay for premium when it runs out but I will definitely be making great use of it to finally get my panther. I already bought the replacement crew for the 3002m since the 25% sale was this weekend. My 3002 crew are moving up to the panther obviously. I also unlocked the 3601 so eventually I will purchase that as well to work towards the tiger.

Loving my panther. I just got it yesterday and my crew are almost back to 100%. I also have it fully upgraded thanks to burning all my free xp to get the L/100 right off the bat.

I'm kinda sad that the historical battles aren't popular, There was just me and one german heavy in the queue. I'll have to try again in the evening when people get out of work/school.

 Boblogik wrote:
Loving my panther. I just got it yesterday and my crew are almost back to 100%. I also have it fully upgraded thanks to burning all my free xp to get the L/100 right off the bat.

I'm kinda sad that the historical battles aren't popular, There was just me and one german heavy in the queue. I'll have to try again in the evening when people get out of work/school.

I was severely disappointed this past weekend when I queued up for a historical battle for the first time and discovered I was the ONLY one waiting.

I think the historical crowd is going to go after War Thunder. I have downloaded the beta but can't get to the new account registration page.

Perhaps they are but from everything I've been reading, it sounds like its not as good as wot for ground combat so who knows.

Just joined up this past Friday, and as of Today my L.Track, T2, and M2 Med are elite and I have a Pimped M4 Sherman.

The first tiers fly by, especially when they run events. I hated facing shermans

Oh and still no bites in the queue for historical battles. Shame really. Oh well.

 Boblogik wrote:
Perhaps they are but from everything I've been reading, it sounds like its not as good as wot for ground combat so who knows.

I understand this is a WoT thread, but as an (ex)WoT player, I've been enjoying WTGF far more than WoT.

There are obvious issues that need fixing, but such is the nature of a beta. However, the basic gameplay has me far more enthralled and engaged than WoT ever did. I love the absence of an HP pool, and armour means a lot more in WT than it does in WoT.

While WT isn't perfect, I think its more fun in the way it plays. Plus, the tank models are gorgeous; much nicer than WoT's models.

To each their own. Some people like the fairly predictable HP system where each shot deals 'X' damage. I prefer the WT system of slow decay of crew members and components, where armour and weakspot knowledge are worth more, especially considering that most guns have a hard time penning their tier equivalent in WT.

Signed, a bitter, ex WoT player.

 ace101 wrote:
Just joined up this past Friday, and as of Today my L.Track, T2, and M2 Med are elite and I have a Pimped M4 Sherman.

The M4 is a great tank and currently one of the prettiest with it's new HD model.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:
Perhaps they are but from everything I've been reading, it sounds like its not as good as wot for ground combat so who knows.

I understand this is a WoT thread, but as an (ex)WoT player, I've been enjoying WTGF far more than WoT.

There are obvious issues that need fixing, but such is the nature of a beta. However, the basic gameplay has me far more enthralled and engaged than WoT ever did. I love the absence of an HP pool, and armour means a lot more in WT than it does in WoT.

While WT isn't perfect, I think its more fun in the way it plays. Plus, the tank models are gorgeous; much nicer than WoT's models.

To each their own. Some people like the fairly predictable HP system where each shot deals 'X' damage. I prefer the WT system of slow decay of crew members and components, where armour and weakspot knowledge are worth more, especially considering that most guns have a hard time penning their tier equivalent in WT.

Signed, a bitter, ex WoT player.

this, a thousand times this.

i sarted playing WT like a week ago just doing the planes and i was like wow this is REALLY fun. Now that tanks are out i am still having fun even with all of the bugs.

I REALLY enjoy that kills are not a win condition in WT, it really takes the pressure off of having to carry your team all the time.

I also enjoy having "lives" in WT, getting killed or having a team of YOLOSWAG drooling publord babies derp themselves in the first 20 seconds is no longer an auto loss.

I also like that WT makes you a bit more interactive with your tank and crew. On fire? press the extinguisher button (you have to reasearch this as i found out the hard way). Tracks broken? press the repair key. It really starts to make you think about your actions before you just YOLO. Getting stuck in the open or having a damage turret REALLY makes you sweat in WT, in WoT i would just let my hp pool suck up damage until i was good to go.

i still have games where the team just wants to sit and camp but i still have fun in those games.

Giving war thunder a try tonight. about 30ish min left on the download.

Testing WT, I still prefer WoT. WT is a great simulator, but I want a game. I don't mind the HP pool and don't mind the push a button fire out. I don't like lives, if you Lemming rush and die, fine, but I really don't want you to come back.

Having done both now, I like both. They each have a unique feel. I am trying to unlock a new tank in wt since I dislike autoloaders. I enjoy the air battles a lot more in wt than world of warplanes

I have been playing quite a lot of Warthunder recently and I thought I would play some WoT tonight as a comparison. 4 utter massacres in a row due to poor matchmaking, I'm not going to bother playing WoT until they get that sorted out.

Warthunder has its problems but at least games are rarely onesided.

 Palindrome wrote:
I have been playing quite a lot of Warthunder recently and I thought I would play some WoT tonight as a comparison. 4 utter massacres in a row due to poor matchmaking, I'm not going to bother playing WoT until they get that sorted out.

Warthunder has its problems but at least games are rarely onesided.

I agree, the only one sided matches have really resulted from teams either working together or not. I'm finding myself enjoying wt a lot more than wot. I still play both and will continue to do so since wot has it's own feel, rewards, and the biggest factor is that my friends play it.

I still think that WoT is a better game but my enjoyment of it is far too variable.

I get frustrated with wot for 2 main reasons

1) Matchmaking is horrible about 80% of the time. No further explanation needed

2) The german tanks have some serious issues. For example, the L/70 was considered one of the best penetrating guns of the war and the panthers front armor was excellent, but the L/70 in the game has trouble penetrating the m4 sherman and many other tanks. And the panther's armor in game is a joke, looks in its general direction pene and sneezes cause engine damage (read: fire) or ammo racks.

There are a lot of one shot kills in WT but it makes sense and armor and shot placement really feel like they matter.

Game wise, I like the formats of both games. I like the one life deathmatch style of wot, it reminds me of a game I use to play in highschool (02-03ish) called americas army. But wt has a format I used to love and puts more emphasis working towards goals. Its set up very similar to one of my all time favorite games, Battlefield 1942.

Wt has a ways to go yet, that much is true but really its a great start just with this beta and I look forward to where it goes. I especially look forward to when they integrate the air and ground together.

But back to wot, I am about to buy the vk 36.01 h. That way to can eventually have myself a tiger to go along side my panther.

Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the germans as they are Russian, including placing german tanks at higher tiers than maybe they should have been placed, but we have to remember that we are playing a tank based arcade game, not some kind of historically accurate simulator.


And I played way too much WoT over Memorial Day weekend, so I may take a break and devote myself to some Planetside 2.

I'm going to try to get back into it after diving headfirst into the WTGF Open Beta. It's taken up most of my PC gaming time, but I think I'll enjoy WoT more after the small break I had. Charging up the Panther line to go with my Comet (which I'll be grinding as well) and my T20 (which I'll also be grinding). Hooray for mediums!

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

Oh I agree, the panther is in the proper tier, based on the tanks in that tier, but the fact that it doesn't face its tier often is the problem. Its against tier 9 more often than it ends up being top tier. Doesn't change the fact that its armor is a joke but I've been reading and apparently I should get used to it because the highest tiers, armor no longer matters, everything penes everything.

 Boblogik wrote:

everything penes everything.

This isn't the case. There are some very powerful guns at tier X but then there is some very thick armour. Its not much different to earlier tiers truth be told.

Just got it a few weeks ago.Lag can be awfulne time It lagged the ENTIRE battle.And another time it didn't even get past loading.love it though.I picked Germans(Jadpanzer 1 loltraktor and the first German arty(The one that has loads of numbers)Although I am wondering:what happened to the leichttraktors?There were four made they were used in training and...that's it?Are they in a museum somewhere?
And:why do I only get to play 5 or so maps?Its winter and normal himmesldorf kalinova and 2 or three others.Is it tier?

so WT started mixed battles today, played the first and last 2 ill ever play. really not fun at all, words cannot explain how bad it was. fun = 0

It seems that the repair time has been increased to even more ridiculous levels. I had a jammed turret which would have taken me nearly 13 minutes to repair, whats the point?

I can't be bothered with WT either now.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Boblogik wrote:

everything penes everything.

This isn't the case. There are some very powerful guns at tier X but then there is some very thick armour. Its not much different to earlier tiers truth be told.

Glad to hear that I was misinformed. I will say this, the events wot runs definitely keep one interested.

 Palindrome wrote:
It seems that the repair time has been increased to even more ridiculous levels. I had a jammed turret which would have taken me nearly 13 minutes to repair, whats the point?

I can't be bothered with WT either now.

That's what made me not like WT the most. My turret gets knocked out and now I'm like a td with its gun facing sideways.

Adding air combat with the gound combat is going to make a lot of people leave. No one wants to be in a stressful battle between two tanks and then just get rocketed/bombed by a random airplane. Plus I would be mad if I was in a middle of a dog fight and some tanks aa gun blows me up...

Whilst not my highest scoring game, it was a blast since at one point it was me and a 1/2 dead KV1S vs six enemies.

 Palindrome wrote:

 Bromsy wrote:
Yeah, the game designers did fudge some stuff against the Germans as they are Russian.

I don't, given what is in tier 6 the Panther really should be in tier 7. The Russian bias really isn't borne out by the win/loss meta data, if anything there is a US bias.

Definatly this... The US line has some pretty bad ass tanks. If I recall correctly the T110E5 is still the most commonly used Tier 10 Heavy in clan wars.

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Reactivated my account and back at square one......"Jihadin"

I've been playing this game for a while and I really like the arcade style. My friends and I quit for several months and coming back they really fixed some problems I had. I have to say one of my favorite tanks is my Cromwell, it's a medium that drives like a light. Kv-4 and the is-4 are also some great fun. My tag is woefatt if anyone wants to platoon up.

Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

 SickSix wrote:
Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

No, but gerenally the higher the tier the more battles it takes to level through it.

The game plays alot different above tier 5 though, but once you learn about weak spots your good.

 SickSix wrote:
Is there some kind of general rule or guide to how many battles you should have for each Tier?

Like you should have x,000 battles before getting into a Tier 8 tank...

Nah, but generally you want to keep some tier V-VIIs that you like and can earn money with. Tier VIII and higher earning cash can be tough.

Just play as many tanks as you can afford and when you find ones you like, keep em.

I have my Chaffee, Luchs, KV1S and Hellcat that I will probably never sell, whilst I am pushing up the Soviet KV and IS trees, and the German Leopard, Tiger, and TD lines.

Be prepared to lose credits once you hit tier 8 (definitely tier 9) if you don't have a premium account.

I don't find higher tiers to be significantly different to lower tiers, I generally play the same (depending on what I am driving obviously).

Sooo...the 9.4 update is here. What do you guys think of the Stalingrad map?

 Ruckdog wrote:
Sooo...the 9.4 update is here. What do you guys think of the Stalingrad map?

Very interesting, the multitudes of buildings definitely reward swarming opponents before they get lights. I've had games where I thought i had a flank locked down only to be suddenly rushed by 3 different tanks i hadn't lit.

Nevermind.