Hey Gitsplitta! Ha - Funny the similarity in our names.

I recently joined DakkaDakka and have been seeking out the other Ork threads. I really like what I see!

Thank you! I have noticed you're posting on a lot of the threads I'm subbed to. Good for you! Lots of good stuff on dakka. Make yourself at home!

Though... once you get established this could get very confusing...

Gits and Guts! Reunited at last....

I suggest, Gutsplitta, that you take Gits' avatar and use it. Please.

Haha yes, reverse it to the right and change the yellow hues to red. Perfect!

Hmmm, like this??? Note to Gutsplitta, please use this avatar!

Lol x over 9000!

whalemusic360 wrote:Lol x over 9000!

that would be funny!

You guys have to work some blue into it though... his orks have blue on them!

God, some people are never happy!

Excellent. Oh man, yes.

Hey everyone, thanks for making me feel so welcome.

The blue is perfect, I'll gladly use the avatar if Gits doesn't mind.

Guts.

Haha rediculous! Any new member is always welcome on Dakka. Escpecially one that can confuse Gits.

Knock yourself out mate! Gives me "plausible deniability", which would be handy.

Both of you, this is amazing, I have fingers crossed for a Iflana to arrive asap.

Surely it would be Ifalan, that guys been around before right?!!

AHAHAH YES.

Ifalan, my mortal enemy.

You guys are hillarious

Of course Guts, I should warn you. Associating with me comes with a fair amount of baggage. I have been called an "Intolerant Asshat" & now wear the moniker proudly.

So as the saying goes... "Enter at your own risk."

lol that would be really funny if you used that Gut's

So watcha think? Does it suit me?

Gits - I guess I'll have to take my chances ... Orks have never been known to shy away after all.

Guts.

Bwahahahaha thats amazing! Good sport sir.

Definitely made me look twice. Now just follow Gits round, or conitnually post on his mantis warrior blog

lol that is good, now the stalking starts

Oh my! That is just a beautiful thing to see....


edit: Oh yes, nic bat rep Gits Even though I don't play I still enjoy yours and Arakasi's reps.

I kinda want to invert the red one and use it.

Do it... !

*lurks into corner to hide*

Shouldnt you be at adepticon or asleep before going to adepticon or something.....

Still working on "the book"... almost done though. Then it's just laundry and packing tomorrow morning.

I am here, not adding anything to the current conversation....

Bad Moons warboss here. Bad Moons are the best orks, and your bad moons are pretty awesome.

*chuckle* Good on ya man. Feel free to not contribute any time you'd like.

I think we need a green Gitsplitta Avatar 180 and mirrored...

Ok, how bout this.....

I approve.

lol Yeah that works You must have changed avatar whilst I was catching up on the MW blog, and I thought Vit was WM whenever I read his posts

Haha, i forgot it changed the whole back catalogue!

I feel sorry for anyone new trying to read Gits' blog, theyll see 3x the avatar

Ok, I've been offline for a couple days traveling and now there are three! What have we started? It will be even more confusing when we start posting in Gits other threads too.

I pity anyone who hasn't been following this thread.

Gits - what was that you said about a corner?




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Alright, now I'm confused. My flag has changed. I think I must be missing a profile setting and it's using access location instead. Hmmmm. Need to check that.

Dakka flag automatically changes depending on location. More Specifically, your ISP and where they host from.

Yeah, I just found that in the profile settings. Odd choice for the defaults, but doesn't matter much to me.

Gods this is confusing already I pity Gits when he next checks Dakka.

Ahhhhhhh! I am so confused!!! I like it!

I have a headache now.... (sigh)

I feel like I'm playing Gauntlet again.


BLUE ORK NEEDS FOOD BADLY

Haha i loved that game!!

Gits...a victim of his own popularity...I love it

I can perfectly tell the differene, the real Gits is a Bad Moon, so he's yellow
Now, if all of you changed your colour to yellow, then I'd have no idea (probably )

Well... the idea is NOT to steal my avatar... that gets you in trouble with the Mods. Just to mess with my head because... you know, that's what people do. Especially my friends.

I am great sport apparently...

Am I the only one getting dizzy from all the rotating pics?

oh, no, I meant just make the avatars have more yellow on them, so it would play with my head as well

Ah but the beauty of it is that it's not just your head that gets messed with Gits. So does anyone reading anywhere that you, Guts, WM and Vit all post.

It means we have to actually read peoples names and stuff.... do you know how last century that is?

note Whale's thingy under his name: Attilpstig
gitsplittA backwards

I fully indorse more colors and rotations of gits avatar.

whalemusic360 wrote:I fully indorse more colors and rotations of gits avatar.

I would do one in turquoise, but I don't have PS

I hadn't noticed that CS.... nice catch!

I try

Capitansolstice wrote:

whalemusic360 wrote:I fully indorse more colors and rotations of gits avatar.

I would do one in turquoise, but I don't have PS

Vits, make it so my good man!

Fine fine, will this do?

Sweet!


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It has happened~!

Oh i feel sorry for Gits :s

I feel sorry for his sanity...and my stomach

Hang on...I'm not sure this has been thought through properly.

You've been cloning Gits.

With all these Git-clones running around think how fast the MW thread is going to snowball. It'll reach critical mass in no time and form a black-hole in the dakka-sphere.




Unless....

unless that was your plan all along ?

*GASP*

monkeytroll wrote:Hang on...I'm not sure this has been thought through properly.

You've been cloning Gits.

With all these Git-clones running around think how fast the MW thread is going to snowball. It'll reach critical mass in no time and form a black-hole in the dakka-sphere.




Unless....

unless that was your plan all along ?

*GASP*

Oh NO! We must execute this man/woman for finding out our brilliant plan!

hmm stranger things have happened!

Aahhhhh what is that abomination!

The forces of chaos are strong with this one!

OK, now even my head is starting to spin.

I just logged in and found several posts in a row all rotating around and around and around and ... then the last one from GiraffeX. Nice!

I needed an "exit strategy"...

I think I'll get in on this action, seeming I'm immune, I'll join them

I think Chowderheads is the worst. Im sorry for bringing this about Gits, truly

Curse you Gutsplitta, 21 posts and you are already in the Dakka Dakka *cool group*. lol, Also, hey Vitruvian, I'm thinking, orange armour....

Well this has 'gonna get out of hand fast' written all over it. *gets some popcorn and a comfy chair to watch the show*

I am confident the orkses will return eventually....

Gir's makes me laugh...

wow.... this is awesome

congrats you had me confused for a bit there

Vitruvian XVII wrote:I think Chowderheads is the worst. Im sorry for bringing this about Gits, truly

Hey! My Avatar is glorious!

Oh god. This is how the world ends.

Time to grab the axe and breaks some heads.

Go for it Lorna... you have my blessing.

Heaven's preserve me Gits! Please paint something already!

Hey... YOU helped to start this... you made the bed man... lie in it.


Actually, I think everyone with a modified Gits avatar should go post on Ifalna's thread. Not garbage posts... but pay a visit... make a comment. Give her some of her own medicine...

Now now, don't spoil the fun, they are just getting started..
*Eats popcorn in comfy chair*

I really quickly regretted saying this was a good idea.

I'm scared.

The innocent comment that became the falling pebble that let loose the Avalanche.. Here; have some beer-basted applebacon. It's good for you and it tastes ok.

STC_LogisEngine wrote:Here; have some beer-basted applebacon. It's good for you and it tastes ok.

Put it in my veins!!!!

It sounds so damn good.

Lorna wrote:Oh god. This is how the world ends.

Says the one with the pony coming through the monitor.

Someone needs to make one like Chowder's that spins the other way, now.

Hey, pinkie is worried about this okay.

And, please someone make the other direction spin. would be awesome.

Gitsplitta wrote:Gir's makes me laugh...

Glad you like him Git's

Gitsplitta wrote:Hey... YOU helped to start this... you made the bed man... lie in it.

I plead innocent!

Anyways, in Git's artistic absence I vote for pics of Dakka's other awesome ork paint jobs...like the following from Lunchbox

And Gits tried to warn *me* of something when this all started?

Who knew

Ifalna wrote:I really quickly regretted saying this was a good idea.

I'm scared.

the zombies are coming iffy...


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Norn King wrote:Curse you Gutsplitta, 21 posts and you are already in the Dakka Dakka *cool group*. lol, Also, hey Vitruvian, I'm thinking, orange armour....

Dakkadakka has a cool group?!

Defianetly.

And Gits is somehow part of that?

This is news to me!

Me too.

When do the royalty checks start rolling in?

Slowly but surely....

Gitsplitta is begin to grow.

You cheeky bastard.

Also, the spinning Gitslpitta is mine! MINE, I SAY!

DarkStarSabre wrote:Slowly but surely....

Gitsplitta is begin to grow.

Here you go Norn

Oooh! a tyranid obsessed gits...

Ifalna wrote:AHAHAH YES.

Ifalan, my mortal enemy.

This was pretty funny!

Gits, will you be going back to more orks now that Adepticon's over, or focusing on Mantis warriors?

Also, guys, I think the avatar "borrowing" may have run its' course at this point. Just giving the hint . A time and place for everything and all that!

Looking forward to seeing more of your work, Gits, after getting to examine it in-person! Including your really cool Waaagh Dakka model, even

Yeah im gonna sack it off soon. It would be cool to see more of waaaagggh gitsplitta, its been a while now.

Oh no, Papa's telling us off

Vitruvian XVII wrote:Yeah im gonna sack it off soon. It would be cool to see more of waaaagggh gitsplitta, its been a while now.

Oh no, Papa's telling us off

When I find a suitable avatar I will

RiTides wrote:

Ifalna wrote:AHAHAH YES.

Ifalan, my mortal enemy.

This was pretty funny!

Gits, will you be going back to more orks now that Adepticon's over, or focusing on Mantis warriors?

Also, guys, I think the avatar "borrowing" may have run its' course at this point. Just giving the hint . A time and place for everything and all that!

Looking forward to seeing more of your work, Gits, after getting to examine it in-person! Including your really cool Waaagh Dakka model, even

But we didn't even have as much fun as the alpharius gag!

Well, Gutsplitta actually had a perfectly good avatar of his own making before being convinced to mimic mine... so he'll be fine. The rest of you... NO EXCUSES! You'd best listen to Papa Tides before he unloads his moderatatorial beat stick on you.

@RiTides: Yep, have big plans for working on my orks, also helping the kids out with their Nids and Necrons. I'll still be doing MW on occasion... so their'll be a steady diet of those too. Right now I'm actually going to take a bit of time to finish a few MW models that I had *mostly* done, but not completely done. Then it'll be off to my orks... probably finish my grot tanks to begin with. I've also been sending Ifalna a steady diet of special orksies... which she does masterfully of course. That will continue and I'm hoping between the two of us we can get my ork army looking all proppa again.

Gitsplitta wrote:The rest of you... NO EXCUSES! You'd best listen to Papa Tides before he unloads his moderatatorial beat stick on you.

Yes mr.Splitta, and Beat stick??! That sounds bad

Yeah, I guess it's the "Dad voice" coming out again .

Comparing it to the invasion of Alpharius avatars is a good comparison, though- awesome for it's time, but like anything else, the time comes when seeing a page full of the same avatar runs its' course

Like I said, really looking forward to seeing more here! I'm trying to get more active in this section when I'm able to check on at home and see pictures, and hopefully will be contributing my own blog for the rest of the dreadnought army soon. Good to start with following one of the blogging gurus on here

Gitsplitta wrote:@RiTides: Yep, have big plans for working on my orks, also helping the kids out with their Nids and Necrons. I'll still be doing MW on occasion... so their'll be a steady diet of those too. Right now I'm actually going to take a bit of time to finish a few MW models that I had *mostly* done, but not completely done. Then it'll be off to my orks... probably finish my grot tanks to begin with. I've also been sending Ifalna a steady diet of special orksies... which she does masterfully of course. That will continue and I'm hoping between the two of us we can get my ork army looking all proppa again.

Fantastic! I've got so many pages to go back through and read, I think I need a summary... of your blogs I've been through the Mantic Warriors one the most, but even that one I've only really scratched the surface of.

@CaptainS: It IS bad.

@RiTides: I'll be anxiously awaiting your new blog... consider me subscribed!


Well, my little one built me a tankbusta for Christmas and is finally getting around to painting it all on his own. He wanted me to post his progress, so I'll put this on his blog and the other in hopes of schmoozing a few comments for him to read (he's young and uncertain... still needs lots of encouragement). I'm actually looking forward to getting this bad-boy in my force... only have one other tankhammer and someone needs to be free from shooting to release the bomb squigs!



I'll be getting back to my grot tanks soon... can't wait!

Love the MW head on a pole! Genius, very neat eyes for his age too, good job.

Thanks Vit... this is obviously just the first stage... and I'll help him along once he gets the basics done. It'll be right and proper by the time we're done!

I like the little rocket! Also... im pretty sure he's neater than I am when he paints

How old is he (10?)? Showing promise

8 yrs old. He can actually do much better, he just has issues staying focused.

It is quite good for his age, albiet a work in progress. That slugga seems to already be taking form, very clean paintjob with the metals.

Looking good so far Thing 2, love the Mantis head on the pole!

Gitsplitta wrote:Well, Gutsplitta actually had a perfectly good avatar of his own making before being convinced to mimic mine... so he'll be fine. The rest of you...

Thanks Gits. He's back! Good fun though

As for your boys paint job, well done! Looking great!

Big thing when my girls first started painting with me was to make sure I focused my time on them, instead of trying to be working on my own stuff at the same time. They never got big into mini painting, but both have really blossomed in their own art forms (paint on canvas, photography, ...). All about the encouragement.

Thanks all, I'll be sure that he sees your comments... he'll be chuffed!

@Guts: Words of wisdom... I'll heed them! ...and I LIKE your original avatar. It's your work and darn good. You should display it proudly.

Normally I'd say to thin the paints some, but I think he is off to a great start, and I'm sure with some Dad-help, it will turn out great.

I'll switch my Avatar while on midnight shift this weekend. Doing it from iPad is to hard to do.

It was fun to watch the shenanigans... but it'll be good to have the old WM back again.

I think I'm going back to my transformers avatar actually. I'm just not an ork kinda guy (my figure is currently in my brothers army).

Ah yes, the cyber cat with glasses... I like that one.

I really like the color combos he's got set up.

Keep it up Thing 2!

I appreciate all the comments guys, we went through them this morning and he was beaming! Hopefully, this will help keep him motivated through the next session or so. He and I called the pic of his mini up on the computer and we discussed his next steps. So far, so good!

Gitsplitta wrote:
@Guts: Words of wisdom... I'll heed them! ...and I LIKE your original avatar. It's your work and darn good. You should display it proudly.

Thanks Gits. Knowing your standard, that's a huge compliment. In some ways I feel like I'm learning to paint all over again. That figure was painted over 10 yrs ago (man I'm getting old), then I switched to a lot of historical stuff for years and now starting back into 40K and Orks. We'll see how my new Big Mek turns out (Ork Big Mek KFF - WIP)

I'd imagine the historical work will stand you in good stead. More realism translates into fantasy nicely... it's the other direction where things don't always move as cleanly.

The tankbusta is looking great man! Very good! Is it going to have a wash? Still love him!

Yep, once he get's the basic colors down... then we'll be doing some dry-brushing... maybe even a little (limited) edge highlighting... then the washes.

OR...

We'll work on one part of the fig at a time until it's done, then we'll move on to the next... we'll see how it goes.

Hmm...Take his time! I can't wait for this guy to be finished!

Ahh, back too normal, finally
anymore updates, soon, gits?
EDIT: on the tankbusta, of course

He's back to working on his nids now...

well, at least there will be updates on his nids

THIS is a good example of something Ifalna does that she doesn't get paid for... decorating the shipping box!



Which delivered... among other things... this!



I'm a very happy orky daddy...



More to come!

ooh, nice, Iffy did a great job, as usual

you cant spell : "awesome painted miniatures" without Iffy...

Gitsplitta wrote: ... I'm a very happy orky daddy...

And well you should be! That fig looks great. She does really nice work for sure and cool packaging as a plus... nice touch!

Beautiful!

Was that a commisioned peice?

Yep. I'm not the least bit protective of my orks. Some I've painted myself, some I've gotten off e-bay, some get sent to Iffy. With all the marine, nid and necron work I've had to do lately, it's the only way I make any progress on them.

I am glad to be a part of this Orky madness, Gits has the best Orks. Half the stuff he sends I have never ever seen before and end up sitting laughing at for hours.

Fantastic.

Nice work Iffy!

Gits, I've always liked that figure. I may have to look into getting one somewhere. Hmmm. ... Then I'd need to get a FightaBomba too I think.

Just to prove I have been working on my orks as promised... second grot tank is coming into focus. Might finish it up this weekend.

That second grot tank looks very tasty!! No glowing parts?

Your Grot tank is a nice homage to Metal Slug. It looks very nice.

You know, it's funny that from this angle the tank commander just looks like a green blob. He's actually decently painted... though you'd never know it from this shot.

tipios wrote:That second grot tank looks very tasty!! No glowing parts?

You know tipios... I don't think so. I mean I'm nowhere near done with the tank... but looking it over there isn't much that could be construed as "glowing" in the model. Perhaps I'll add something... we'll see.

Maniac_nmt wrote:Your Grot tank is a nice homage to Metal Slug. It looks very nice.

Thanks Maniac_nmt. I can't take credit for the model, that's Forge World... just the paint job.

Always impressed by your stuff, Gits!

Very nice, Gitsplitta. I always feel like I learn something new when I look at your models. Speaking of which, how did you get that nice reddish bronze on the exhaust pipe?

Gitsplitta wrote: I mean I'm nowhere near done with the tank... but looking it over there isn't much that could be construed as "glowing" in the model. Perhaps I'll add something... we'll see.

You could add some glow to the missiles, make them kind of radioactive and unstable...

Cheers e-t! Thanks.

Yellowbeard wrote:Very nice, Gitsplitta. I always feel like I learn something new when I look at your models. Speaking of which, how did you get that nice reddish bronze on the exhaust pipe?

If I recall correctly... black, heavy tin bitz dry brush, lighter dwarf bronze dry brush, delvan miracle wash.

You could add some glow to the missiles, make them kind of radioactive and unstable...

Very interesting idea there toebeard... I'll have to consider that. Some unstable nuclear material tossed in with my grots might be amusing & foment some entertaining fluff!

Getting close to being finished with the basic paint job. After this is decals (because I'm lazy) and weathering.

Very nice!!

why the decals Git? just because you feel lazy? come on you know you'll regret it later on so why don't do it right , right away?
just my lousy motivational speech.

the tank looks ace btw

Nope... got no problem using decals on my orks, especially them fancy Forge World decals. No point in killing myself over nothing.

haha okay Git well then i would like to see them

Tank looks great Gits! Well done. I especially like the contrasting primary colours on the rokkits. Really helps them stand out.

Tonight's work: Just the weathering left to do.

Those decals look great Fatty will be pleased

Fatty is pleased

those decals look ace Git

Looking good man! Loving your stuff!

Thanks all! Might get this little bugger done tonight or tomorrow night. Keep your fingers crossed!

Quality work my friend. Somehow unsubbed,most peculiar. However, here we are again. Ate you planning on powder weathering, paint chipping, sponging or a combination (or something else? Something new and uniquely gitish? Yup, you got your own adjective now).

Happens to me on occasion too... (losing a subbed thread).

Believe it or not graven... it's not the first time in my life I've been the source of unique words (invented by others).

In answer to your question... yes. Chipping, powders, the works. I just wanted to get the main paint job done before I go attacking it with sponges and various other implements of destruction.

I'm gona have to catch up with this blog soon - I got halfway but now south park is on - great stuff gits and thanks for showing the mug!

Thanks for making it! I enjoy tea and coffee out of it quite frequently.

Nice Grot tank Git, I was waiting to see the end product and comment, but I couldn't wait.
Right way to WAAAAAGH!

@Slev: Thank you sir, glad I could bring you out of your shell!

Getting close. Only the powder (mud & dust) to do now. OH, wait... forgot... I was going to speckle some rust spots across it too.

Looks great, Gitsplitta. All the battle damage really brings it to life. I love the "Tank Boss" bit.

Dat's juss in kase dey fr'get who'd-a big boss o' dem grotz really iz!! Weedy little gitz!

Goddam I love me some grotz... Don't forget to paint the finger nails!

Tank #2 "da tank kommanda", is done! Very zoomable pic.



And a group shot of what can now be considered "da panza korpse" (as in the dead body).



Only 4 more to go!

Looking awesome as always!

A couple of picky notes to do as with you will:

1) It always seems odd to me, given the slap dash nature of Orks, that they can paint their dags and checks so cleanly - and yet - I do prefer them that way. Case in point - you have obviously used decals for the checks on the sides, and these are awesome. You have obviously painted the checks on the turret - more Orky perhaps, but looks less good - especially when you have such an awesome example elsewhere on the tank... For some reason, the painted dags and flames don't seem to detract nearly as much though - perhaps due to the single colour, the natural curves, or the lack of pristine examples...

2) The green writing is an odd colour choice, and I find english words on Orks odd - or at least very difficult to include appropriately. Appropriate glyphs may have suited it better. Funnily enough - I have no issue with your AV14 number plate...

3) "Water" stains appear too thick and well defined.

4) Interesting choices of colour for the rokkits, though I think my real issue with them is that they are too plain and/or too clean compared with the rest of the model.

5) Some of the brown paint mud splatter/chipping seems a bit thick.

6) I may have highlighted the Grot more...

On the up side:

7) All decals appear to have been expertly applied and weathered.

8) Except for the checks, freehand is great if not quite perfect.

9) Mud/powder use looks great - though you might want to add a couple of different varieties for some variation in colour.

10) Metalwork, especially the brass, is awesome.

11) Some of the weathering on the larger nuts and bolts is spot on.

I would be proud to own such a piece.

Apologies for the long list - I bet you weren't expecting that much from your PM - but I'm deep in the middle of assessing the 42 Infinity painting competition entries - so I'm on a roll for extracting as much as possible as I can. I only hope its helpful

I think its cool Git. Great job on the dirt and grime. It's almost to much but it still works. I can see where Arakasi is coming from on most of his points as well. Wheres the third tank at?

Thanks Arakasi... so many good comments to respond to...

Arakasi wrote:1) It always seems odd to me, given the slap dash nature of Orks, that they can paint their dags and checks so cleanly - and yet - I do prefer them that way. Case in point - you have obviously used decals for the checks on the sides, and these are awesome. You have obviously painted the checks on the turret - more Orky perhaps, but looks less good - especially when you have such an awesome example elsewhere on the tank... For some reason, the painted dags and flames don't seem to detract nearly as much though - perhaps due to the single colour, the natural curves, or the lack of pristine examples...

The funny part is that the checks under the turrett aren't free hand, they're molded into the figure. I just painted them as-is. So the problem isn't my free-hand (the dags) vs. the decals... it's the decals vs. the sculpt. Your point is well taken though, and I totally get it. I just can't bring myself to hand paint the checks... even though I think they'd look much more authentic that way. I suppose I could have the yellow encroach on the edges of the strip, but then it'd look weird and the outside edges of the strip would be rough while the inside is nice and clean.

2) The green writing is an odd colour choice, and I find english words on Orks odd - or at least very difficult to include appropriately. Appropriate glyphs may have suited it better. Funnily enough - I have no issue with your AV14 number plate...

I just thought it would be nice to introduce a spot of color off-palette for interest... and grots are green after all. The glyph on the back of the turret is actually the "boss" glyph... but the deal with humor is people have to understand it. I could make the best jokes with orky glyphs and what... one person in 500 would take the time to look them up and get it?? I'd rather use a bit of English to get the point across. All of the glyphs I did use mean something in the context of the tank though.

3) "Water" stains appear too thick and well defined.

My first attempt. I should have used Sepia rather than Delvan Mud.

4) Interesting choices of colour for the rokkits, though I think my real issue with them is that they are too plain and/or too clean compared with the rest of the model.

They're based on the colors for the rockets my regular orks carry, so I'm just being consistent with the army rather than specifically choosing them for this model. The reason they're cleaner (and I did put some thought into this), is that they're munitions... they're only on the tank long enough to be fired off... not long enough to accrue a bunch of mud, rust and chips. Now... they could well be manufactured crappily... but it just didn't seem realistic to me to have them all crapped up when they're essentially fired off in an "as new" condition.

5) Some of the brown paint mud splatter/chipping seems a bit thick.

Quite possibly. The reddish speckles are actually supposed to be rust.

6) I may have highlighted the Grot more...

I looked at him carefully & his lower lip, eye socket and finger nails were the last things I did on the piece. He's highlighted all the way up to scorp green. I suppose I could add some more yellow and really bring up some extreme highlights along some edges.

On the up side:

7) All decals appear to have been expertly applied and weathered.

I used a trick I learned from an expert local modeler to help make the edges of the decals disappear. Cover the decal with gloss coat (slightly diluted), then overspray with dull coat. The gloss is thicker and fills in the "step" between the decal edge and the model. Worked pretty well.

8) Except for the checks, freehand is great if not quite perfect.

"Perfect" is not what I was shooting for... see our previous discussion on the checks above.

9) Mud/powder use looks great - though you might want to add a couple of different varieties for some variation in colour.

Actually, I'm scratching my head about this... if you see the previous tank... the two powders I used there were the exact same two I used with the new one, only the difference between the wet and dry mud is much more pronounced. I'm not sure what happened between the two.

10) Metalwork, especially the brass, is awesome.

11) Some of the weathering on the larger nuts and bolts is spot on.

I would be proud to own such a piece.

Apologies for the long list - I bet you weren't expecting that much from your PM - but I'm deep in the middle of assessing the 42 Infinity painting competition entries - so I'm on a roll for extracting as much as possible as I can. I only hope its helpful

Couldn't have asked for better my friend, thank you!

Holy crap Gits...you really went to town with the weathering! Some of the water stains look a bit thick, surreal...as if the edges could be a bit softer.

I think Forge World solves this by applying deluted oil paints and then hitting it with distilled thinner with an air brush (oh, look...another reason to use your beloved airbrush ) to tone it down and blend it into the base paint job.

But still, the chipping and rust is very good. How did you apply the small chip marks...with a sponge? or by flicking your brush?

Boy, I really do like this grot tank painted in Mantis Warrior "Tranquility" scheme...

Never thought of that brian!

Awesome work Gits.

wyomingfox wrote:Holy crap Gits...you really went to town with the weathering! Some of the water stains look a bit thick, surreal...as if the edges could be a bit softer.

I think Forge World solves this by applying deluted oil paints and then hitting it with distilled thinner with an air brush (oh, look...another reason to use your beloved airbrush ) to tone it down and blend it into the base paint job.

But still, the chipping and rust is very good. How did you apply the small chip marks...with a sponge? or by flicking your brush?

Brush... took me hours as the chipping actually has two tones (light and dark). Typically with chips you use a "primer color" and an edging which is usually a very light version of the base color. However, no way in Hades that grots are going to prime before they paint, so I went with a bright metal (chainmail) and a very dark one (Vallejo air "black metallic").

I think some of what you guys are responding to are some heavy brown areas that were the result of the very first sepia wash and not actually my "weathering" attempts. I can go in with some yellow and fix those areas up to reduce the drastic appearence of the brown shadow/water effect. (the back of the turret under the "fist" glyph for example).

Great job Gits, very convincing weathering. Love the mud, maye go over in some places wit hthe lighter stuff, not too much though.

Have you thought of wethering your brass with terquiosy wash? awesome paint job had a good mix on one of his vids. I used it and was pleased with the result.

Also onlt other thing I would do is soot effets on the exhaust, and maybe behind where the missiles fire from.

When I get round to painting my tank I hope I can get this sort of look.

Looking forward to the next four

tipios wrote:Great job Gits, very convincing weathering. Love the mud, maye go over in some places wit hthe lighter stuff, not too much though.

Have you thought of wethering your brass with terquiosy wash? awesome paint job had a good mix on one of his vids. I used it and was pleased with the result.

Also onlt other thing I would do is soot effets on the exhaust, and maybe behind where the missiles fire from.

When I get round to painting my tank I hope I can get this sort of look.

Looking forward to the next four

Excellent comments tipios.

If I can figure out how I got the lighter brown color, I'll do it. I thought about weathering the bronze but for some reason the obvious answer didn't occur to me. I'll do that too. And lastly, I usually put soot on my exhausts... I just forgot.

Man you're good... 3 for 3!

Looking good man! Btw are they FW?

Yep.

Molded checks? Well I never...

Sepia mixed with Badab is quite nice (FW trick that)

Ah - but you haven't pictured your tanks with the rest of your army yet have you? *hint* *hint*. My point still stands - would decals, glyphs or other Orky/Grot scrawlz be out of the question on those Rokkits, just to make it less "plain" (My Ork rokkits are recycled from Dark Angel armour left rusting at the back of the Mek Shop - so there! )

Great, not quite perfect, freehand was including free hand glyphs and dags, not just the checks

But I think everything is in order

Arakasi wrote:Molded checks? Well I never...

Sepia mixed with Badab is quite nice (FW trick that)

I'll have to try that next time.

Ah - but you haven't pictured your tanks with the rest of your army yet have you? *hint* *hint*. My point still stands - would decals, glyphs or other Orky/Grot scrawlz be out of the question on those Rokkits, just to make it less "plain" (My Ork rokkits are recycled from Dark Angel armour left rusting at the back of the Mek Shop - so there! )

Actually, that's a good idea... consider it "on the list of things to do".

Great, not quite perfect, freehand was including free hand glyphs and dags, not just the checks

Oh yes, I understood you perfectly. (even if I can't paint perfectly)

Gitsplitta wrote:Brush... took me hours as the chipping actually has two tones (light and dark).

You mean all those tiny little specks (no bigger than pin heads) that suround the edges of the panels was done by indivudually painting them with a brush...vs applying the effect by either a sponge or flicking your brush?

I think some of what you guys are responding to are some heavy brown areas that were the result of the very first sepia wash and not actually my "weathering" attempts. I can go in with some yellow and fix those areas up to reduce the drastic appearence of the brown shadow/water effect. (the back of the turret under the "fist" glyph for example).

I was talking about the blackish or dark brown verticle streaks that you applied near bolt heads, gashes, ect. They were executed well, it is just FW has a better visual delivery that utilizes oils followed by distillants applied through an airbrush to soften the effect. Next time you come over (your turn next gits) I will show you the FW book. It's a neat trick and I think you could pick it up easily since you have you are already use to airbrushes.

Ah, got it. Hmmm, I wonder if a dilute yellow wash would accomplish anything? Probably just turn them green. :/

Maybe I'll experiment in a non-critical area.

I'm going to be picky, but not before saying that this is an outstanding piece. My comments are similar to tipios's, but specifically the metal work plates: they're incongruously un-weathered. I'd expect some gathering and streaking of rust and grime, at raised/damaged areas.
But, this is me being picky. It's a beautiful model and wayyyyyy beyond tabletop as it stands. But you did ask

nice Git you know i love the weathered and beat up style of your tanks.

but the one thing i dislike has to be the modeled on checks but that's beyond your powers. it makes a giant difference between them and the decal checks.

and i have to ask you Git where is this tanks license plate? with the mandatory but completely unregulated contest who can make the funniest tekst?

@fatty: He's got the little grot icon as a license plate. However, if I think of something clever... (maybe I should look at the "competition" we did last time for this), I'll make him a new one.

@graven: Noted, That bothers me too, just wasn't sure how to tackle it. I'll work on it tonight. Keep your eyes peeled tonight for an update.

I really like the tank Git!
But I agree with the checklist made by Arakasi on a couple of points (all the UPs are spot on )
First of all are the rokkits, too clean in a muddy and beaten tank (It may be that they are brand new 'cause the old one have been fired), they just don't blend with the rest.
The writing in English are ok for me, but the green is a strange color, the grots that painted the tank had already yellow and black, why go and find an other color?

I do love the yellow metal plates, they make a proper contrast with the weathering and dirt on the edges and I would leave them as they are.

As I said already: Great job mate!

Well, it seems I'm late to get my comments in. Most of what I have to say has already been said so, not much to add. However, I will make a few comments.

Overall - I really like the tank! Fantastic work, well done I'm sure any one of us would be more than happy to have it in our force or meet it across the tabletop.

Some specific things I really like:

- The colour choices on the rokkits work for me. I like the way they stand out compared to the rest of the model.
- The mud work, weathering and paint chips are great (with two exceptions noted below). I know these are a real time consuming pain to do. Well done for taking the time to do the details.
- The shading on the lenses of the Grot's goggles.

Some areas to improve - some have already been mentioned, but I state them again because they seem to be the most obvious to me:

- The painted checks on the turret vs. the decals elsewhere stand out as inconsistent. Perhaps the resin checks on the turret could have been shaved off so there was space for decals?
- The weathering on the steel plates could use some more rust compared to the rest.
- The weathering (?) on the turrent seems very different from the tank body. The turrent has heavy rust coloured shading in the creases and this is almost non-existant on the tank body. I have the (?) on calling this weathering because it isn't the watermarks or streaks I'm referring to. Hopefully you know what I mean.
- I agree the rokkits should be 'clean' as far as rust and chips go, but perhaps they could have some mud splatters from the drive into the current battle. The launcher itself does, so why not the rokkits?
- Add a schorched effect to the ends of the exhausts and rokkit launcher.

I also thought it would be good to see how this model fits with the rest of the army, because it is quite different in colour from the other one. Some people like a lot of consistency in the tribal aspect of their Orks, others more the rebellious haphazard no two are alike sort of look, still others somewhere in between. I had a look through the rest of your gallery and it seems you sit somewhere in between. So, I think the look compared to the rest fits perfectly. ... Still, it would be nice to have an updated army pic

Gitsplitta wrote:Ah, got it. Hmmm, I wonder if a dilute yellow wash would accomplish anything? Probably just turn them green. :/

Maybe I'll experiment in a non-critical area.

I would honestly leave it alone on this model. No reason to potentially mess up a perfectly nice mini. My comment should be applied on your next model

Try this out guys. We've just gotten our power back so this work was done by flashlight... hopefully it doesn't look like it too much. I've done my best to address as many of the comments as possible. I've marked up the rockets. The solo on the bottom has kill markings and a blunted nose... that's because it's a dud but the driver likes to use it as a ram. The main rocket has a face on it now, and the others have an arrow with "dakka dakka" written on it and "umie killa" respectively. I re-did the painting on the molded checks in hopes that brightening it up might make it a better match for the decals. Put verdigris on the bronze and rust and oil stains on the moving metal gun elevation mechanism. Also put a little bit of dilute gloss coat on some of the darker mud to make it look wet and increase the contrast between that and the lightest mud.

At this point, I think all I can do is make it worse, so I'm declaring it done. I appreciate all of your great suggestions and hope I haven't actually made things worse.

I'm going to disable voting on the last pic, for those couple of you who voted on it... if you're so inclined please vote on the new pic so your votes get counted.



And now for something completely different...


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And for those of you who demanded an army shot, here's tis.

Here's Big Mek Buzzgob giving the troops a... *a-hem*... "pep-talk". (I know, the picture looks like crap in-line... you can zoom in, it'll get better in the gallery.)



Plans for this army include 4 more grot tanks, 2 more kans, a grot mega tank, two squiggoths (to serve as battle wagons) and a "looted" Mega Dread. And well... more grots.

I think you nailed the missiles! They look a lot more congruent with the rest of the model now, whilst still standing out due to their bright colours.

I'd probably have to look at the images side by side to see the other improvements - I can make out the verdigris - which thankfully doesn't look overdone (always a concern) and I think glossing some of the mud has worked out well.

But then, I probably wouldn't have wanted to potentially screw up what I had before - so very courageous of you and well done too.

Full pic is looking nice!


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Why are the grots facing the wrong way? And I think your other missiles (other Grot tank, left Killa Kan) could use the same treatment now

Tsk. These people with time on their hands, eh? Great job mate, and nice to see you pre-empt your rabid fanbase's request for an army shot. I love the tank now, although I realise that the inside of the klaxons being metal confuses me. Stark white or red maybe? But, perhaps for another day, another model.

I would give that 10 out of 10 but I'm probably biased. I wouldn't worry about the votes - sometimes the voters are just in a bad mood - see something painted better than they could manage and vote it down - I think I once voted someone down cos they were rude about my squats.

I love that little dude with the graph - what page can I find a close up of that on?


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Aha! Page 20 - I notice how Waarrgh rises as a function of gunz - or is it the other way round?

As always Gitz, amazing work. Great use of weathering. The thought of those tracks squealing and grinding with all that mud on brings a smile to my face.

Subbed.

Bash

Arakasi wrote:Why are the grots facing the wrong way?

Thus, I quote myself...

Here's Big Mek Buzzgob giving the troops a... *a-hem*... "pep-talk".

Imagine a hoard of unruly grots that Buzzgob is trying to form into a mob with a purpose. You gather them together, they gibber, they scream, they start to cap each other off. What is a big mek to do?? Easy, get all your biggest, nastiest weapons & your runt herds, point them at the grots is a show of massive force and if anyone gets out of line... *ka-pow*! Easy-peasy.

And I think your other missiles (other Grot tank, left Killa Kan) could use the same treatment now

Yes sir.

inmygravenimage wrote:Tsk. These people with time on their hands, eh? Great job mate, and nice to see you pre-empt your rabid fanbase's request for an army shot. I love the tank now, although I realise that the inside of the klaxons being metal confuses me. Stark white or red maybe? But, perhaps for another day, another model.

You know, I had no idea how a klaxon would be colored. I just assumed it would be made of metal and the inside would be unpainted. If there are standard "klaxon colors", I can certainly use them.

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Aha! Page 20 - I notice how Waarrgh rises as a function of gunz - or is it the other way round?

Yeah, Buzzgob and his boys are Ifalna's work. Brilliant job too.

Bash the Bosh wrote:As always Gitz, amazing work. Great use of weathering. The thought of those tracks squealing and grinding with all that mud on brings a smile to my face.

Subbed.

Bash

Thanks Bash, good to have you around! Been a while.

Final on the Tank looks great Gits! Well done.

squig-goths are cute i have got one myself. some friends of mine chipped in and bought it for my birthday

Now it's perfect!!! re-voting now!!

Glad you guys like it! I'll probably do one more fairly quickly so I can have a complete unit.

Hey Gits, how do you use your Grot Tanks in a force chart? Do you count them as Wartrakks?

They're a FW unit, FA iirc

I'm proxying them as rokkit buggies. If I ever get into a game or tournament that allows IA rules, I'll use them as intended. However at the moment I don't even have the proper IA rule book, so they're limited to proxy status.

Excellent! I always have a squad of Rokkit Buggies in my force and they rarely let me down:

- Often ignored by opponents until it is too late.
- Or a major distraction giving some freedom to other squads.

Got my swap from Arakasi!! This figure is truly spectacular... it's huge and menacing... just like a nob should be. Also, pic was taken with my phone (iPhone 4s). Not bad at all considering. Not perfect, but you could certainly make some reasonably commentary based on the pic.



Now all I need do is paint up some storm boys!

Glad to see it arrived in one piece! Remember - you need to add your own designs to the yellow banner and add grass to the base

You can count on it!

That is one great looking Nob. Grats on getting it home. Gonna look great with the rest of your orks.

That's wonderful! It's kind of what I was going for with my Lazaerek model, except, you know, more Ork-y. I love the wings and the winged helmet. Very nice work, Arakasi!

Wait its...done? When I joined dakka it was still wip I think

Looks great Ara, and Gits, looking forward to seeing those stormboyz ha!

Gitsplitta wrote:Now all I need do is paint up some storm boys!

Me too! (For his "twin") - I expect you will get to it before me though

@Yellowbeard: Thanks!

@Battle Brother Lucifer: I know! Amazing huh? I've had a lot of finished projects lately (of course, I have a lot of unfinished ones still too...)

Hey Gits, your Grot Tanks ended up on the Gallery splash page today. That's great! Nice to see.

Gitsplitta, this looks awesome and quite inspiring, a job well done.
As a Ork Bad Moon player, i´ll have to nick some ideas.

New batrep up. 1250 pt. Ork Battlewagon Rush vs. Footdar

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/455172.page#4394450

Just thought I'd mention that I've begun painting my 3rd grot tank. I think this one will go together pretty quick. Aside from the weathering, the tracks are done already & am working on the tank body. Pics soon (hopefully).

What .. in your Bat rep did you actually say your dice rolled well?

Looks like getting your boys " stuck in" early was key. (Death rollers helped too)

SL

My opponent deployed a little too far forward making an across-the-board turn 2 charge possible. Combine that with his really bad luck shooting at my vehicles and my consistently good luck rolling dice... and it was a long, hard day for the eldar.

Deathrollas did a fair amount of damage in key situations, so they were definitely important in gaining the victory.

Made a bit of progress on my 3rd Grot Tank. This is just the base... lots to do yet.

Nice painting it's obvious your green is spot on (MW and ork skin really help with that)

but that turret somehow reminds me of this

It's the Christmas grot tank! I like it.

Actually Fatty... you aren't far off. Since there's an ork face on the bottom of the turret mount, I wanted the top to look like the top of the head. I didn't make the Oscar-the-Grouch connection though.... which is a major fail on my part. I approve whole-heartedly though!!

@Ice: Thanks! Made more progress after posting that pic. Expect another update tonight.

Looking forward to it.

Teasers from my game this afternoon, full batrep to follow. 1250 pts again with my Grot army using Buzzgob (with my opponents permission). All the units save one were chosen simply because they either were grots or looked like grots when compared to modern orks. (the exception being a couple of deffkoptas who were just filling out points)

The Army:


My Turn 1 roll-on (DoW game):


The fate of Grot Tank #3 (self inflicted):


Failequins, Part II: This is probably going to hurt...

Solar_lion wrote:Forsooth... we wait'th on the BAT REP with thy'ne baited breadth.

Finally got the grot army on the table.. good! .bout time.

SL

Yeah, I finish up that third grot tank, get two more kans painted & maybe a grot bike or two re-painted and they'll really look like something. I'd like to get some grot substitues for the deff koptas too, but the only model I really like for it is priced out of my range. Have some more FW grot things I'll be doing eventually, but not all of them have a good proxy (the grot megatank for example), so my ability to field them will be at the whim of my opponents.

Buzzgob is OK as a commander. No where near as effective as a big Mek with a KFF as all of his special abilities really don't come into play unless your playing apoc. However... his LD 9 is nice if he's attached to a nob squad and on the charge he gets a ton of big choppa attacks... which is nice as well. And he's a very fluffy choice to lead my grots into combat even if not that effective.

This is actually a pretty shooty list when it comes down to it and nearly everything contributed significantly in the battle. Bikes, buggies, kans, koptas... trukk w/ nobs... even the grots did their part. Hard to complain when darn near every unit grades out at a B or better. It's just very ephemeral... so it won't take much of a pounding. It can dish it out though...

How did the cannons work out. I don't see them used much.

Have to look through my pics... but if I recall correctly they took out the avatar, as well as adding supporting fire in general. Think I maxxed out the unit's firing strength roll (killed a grot as a result), then burned an ammo grot to get 2 or 3 hits. Failed a couple of saves & no more Avatar (he was already wounded from earlier Zap gun & rokkit shooting).

Most people prefer the regular cannons, but the only artillery pieces I have painted don't look like standard cannon so I use them as Zap Guns.

The tanks looking good Gits! So's the Stromboyz!

Stormboy Nob is Arakasi's work... and you're right... he's fantastic!

Built the Rokkit Launcher for the thrid grot tank. Here are some pics. Takes a bit of time but it's magnetized so I can switch it out in case I ever get the chance to run them as actual grot tanks rather than just rokkit buggies. Kind of fun to do though. Note that the rather wonky alignment is allowed to happen on purpose as I don't think grots would worry too much about levels and plumb-bobs. Also got a bit more painting done (but am not featuring it in these pics)... expect a painting update soon.

First, the bits.... launcher made out of a tube & a hand-held ork rokkit launcher, magnetized at the back. Two kustum rokkits made out of smaller tube, GS & plasticard.


Side view of completed gun. Looks like I was a little over zealous with the super glue.


Front view. Really like the crookedness of it all... gives it that grotty feel. (sorry, depth-of-field stinks on this shot)


More quite soon.

Lovein the rocket mod gits

Great to see you back on the 'M' side of P&M! Lovely job, especially the crooked build!

Thanks guys!

New Batrep up! Orks vs. Eldar part II!

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/457061.page#4433177

Loved it!

I just had the most amazing game as part of the 40k league I'm in. Fantastic opponent with a really tough, Abbadon chaos space marine list. Demon w/ lash whip, another demon, terminators, oblits, berserkers, squads of plague marines in rhinos... man... what a nightmare. I ran a gigged up version of my battlewagon rush list. Got off a first turn charge and by turn two, though I'd lost 2 of my 3 scoring units I'd eliminated the targeted units (berserkers and oblits). It was a truly EPIC struggle that waxed and waned for 5 turns... and it looked like in the end I"d be victorious. Unfortunately I discovered after the fact that I'd made a pretty important (and stupid) rule error in my favor that actually did make a difference in the game. Now, it's not the fact that I then yielded the game to my worthy opponent that bothers me... my opponent was great & very generous throughout and I'm glad I caught and corrected the error before it was officially recorded. It's the fact that it was such an amazing and fun battle that now is consigned to the toilet because I screwed up (i.e. no battle report, no fun stories of daring do, etc.)


So it was a wash, except for one... SHINING... moment... that remains totally untainted my by error.


You see, my battlewagon list includes Zogwort... for one specific reason: Abbadon the Despoiler.... squig!



You go Zoggy.... good on 'ya!


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A bit more progress on the grot tank. Just about done with the base colors. Detailing, then weathering left to do (and a bit of a surprise at the end).

Ziggy Zoggy Ziggy Zoggy Oye Oye Oye!

Too bad about the mistake, Gits, but it sounds like it was a great game, and that's what counts. Cool about Zoggy, too. Gotta love Abaddon the Squig!

Also, the Grot tank is looking great. Kind of reminds me of this

You know, I didn't plan it that way... but it does look a bit like the green M&M Dalek doesn't it? And you're right, it was a bloody fantastic game!


OK, next WIP. All the base colors are done but there's still a ton of detailing to do.... then all the chipping & scratching... finally the weathering and rust. So much work for such a tiny figure! It is finally starting to look like something though...

Looking good, as always, Gits. The grot Dalek looks great, I like the addition of the blue rockets, sort of a nice off key / orky note accent. Also " Abbadon the Despoiler.... squib!" FOR THE WIN!!

Thanks GG! Little update for ya... last for the evening as it's beddie-bye time for daddy. The blue and gold rockets are traditional colors for my particular branch of the clan. Not by design actually, but I picked up some nicely painted tankbustas in that theme off ebay and I've kind of stuck to the theme. Anyway, I always try to work them in.

Details are coming out nicely and have begun the chipping process. More to come!

Green M&M Dalek! lol!

I calls 'em as I seez 'em.


One little update for any Dr. Who fans out there... "why fight it?" I say!



Chipping is going well, it's just slow going. That big yellow section on the turret will get further detailing of some sort, just haven't decided what yet. The grots are supposed to be Bad Moons so I always try to work in at least a little yellow or Bad Moon iconography here and there. One of the advantages of these things being so small is that you can really dwell on the details. I guess that's why I don't really like doing bigger vehicles so much or take the easy route and just airbrush them "factory new"... there's just a never ending spiral of detail you can add if you want & at my speed it could take months to do just one vehicle. At least with these little guys, you run out of model pretty quickly!

Put some black dags on the top and bottom, diagonally- so it looks like a jagged yellow strip going from one corner to the other.

Number plate, is a very nice touch

Hahahaha Gits, genius numberplate. Its looking great.

See, that's what I want to see next season instead of Mark Gatiss's lumpen abomination. Great job as always! Your WIPs are so much more than my final pics. Ah well, I bow to your grotty talent...

Not sure I get the reference graven... (OK, I'm sure I don't get the reference...) but thank you!

Here's the semi-final shot. Nothing left save for rust speckling (el-spongo) and mud. I got tired of listening to you guys winge on about my not hand-painting the checkers so I experimented a bit. Also felt it was a little smallish (which it is) when compared to the rest of the squadron, so I beefed it up a bit by adding a home-made dozer blade and a spotter (from the FW grot artillery crew set). I really like this little tank. All I need do is muck it up a bit which will do a nice job of blending everything together and it should be all set!



God I love these little tanks... and I have 3 more to do! Best of all I just scored 3 Forge World grot bombs off e-bay (not a huge discount but it saved me shipping) that I'm going to use to make grot deffkoptas... which is a project I've had in mind for a long time now.

Depending on my schedule... the tank should be done in a day or two. Keep your eyes peeled!


Couple of things that I notice that I'll put down here lest I forget... the grot has a "wrap" around a wrist and an ankle... have to paint that. Also I'll add some supporting struts to the dozer blade from the bottom of the tank. You don't see it of course IRL, but in the side shots it's pretty obvious that it needs something down there. Guess I can tackle those jobs on the 'morrow. Night all!

That is amazing - I love the highlighting of the checkerboard. You have devilishly good details!

Realy nice work gits. So much detail, and loads of great freehand. I agree with Graven, the checkers are topnotch, I bet someone will complain that they are too good for an ork

Actually that someone is ME.

I've always thought the idea of highlighting checkers was ridiculous as the only way they'd actually have highlights is if they were embossed... which they clearly aren't. HOWEVER... I can see some grot "artist" deciding that he was going to make his tank fancier than the next guys by trying to paint hoity-toity checkers on it... so there we go. It was an interesting painting experiment at any rate.

Got the dozer blade brace made, painted and in place during the wee hours of last night... so that little job's done. More progress tonight hopefully.

Great work, Gits! I agree with Graven and tipios; the chevks are beautiful, better than the decal! (Though my first thought was "those are too good for grots," too. ). I really like the flames on the yellow plate and the license plate, too.

Very nice depth on the figure. The spotter was a brilliant idea.

I think you need to paint a drop pod for like Mephiston, paint the pod blue, give it the patterns of the Tardis, and wrap a tiny scarf around his neck, or a fez, or a bow tie (bow ties are cool).

Finally complete! The weathering may seem a bit extreme... but for little grot tanks screaming around at high speeds *really close* to the mud (much closer than a full sized ork vehicle)... I think it's just right! The image is quite large and very zoomable.

Hope you like it!

I love them, grot tanks are amazing models and you've done them justice!

Only 1 more, any big plans?

Awesome!!

That Grot spotter is a perfect little addition as well. Feel like he should be slightly grubbier though....Otherwise, im pretty sure im not the only one whos thinking that weathering is just right, not obscuring too much, just adding flavour to an already flavourful model.

Excellent finishing touches, I like the fact that the mud has got everywhere, because there's no mud guards

@KrimsunBaron: Thanks mate, glad you like them! I must admit that I've become inordinately fond of the little buggers...

whalemusic360 wrote:Only 1 more, any big plans?

Actually... this has got me thinking that I may plink away at the last two killa kans that I have left to paint/build. At least that way I'd have two full squads. The closest thing to "big plans" that I have in mind for the grots is to convert the 3 FW grot bombs I just picked up in grot versions of deff koptas. Need to hunt down some bits first though. There will eventually be 3 more tanks... but not just yet.

Revenent Reiko wrote:Awesome!!

That Grot spotter is a perfect little addition as well. Feel like he should be slightly grubbier though....Otherwise, im pretty sure im not the only one whos thinking that weathering is just right, not obscuring too much, just adding flavour to an already flavourful model.

You make a good point about the grubbiness of the good spotter there Reiko. Guess I just didn't want to lose him completely in the model. I'll put some thought into it. (and thank you!)

tipios wrote:Excellent finishing touches, I like the fact that the mud has got everywhere, because there's no mud guards

Thanks tipios. Actually in looking at it... I should probably fling some dried mud up on the bottom of that one exhaust stack too. Won't take a new pick but consider it done.

I thought you would use the, exhaust is very hot, so would burn off the mud excuse

Well, to my knowledge... mud doesn't really burn... it just dries (so I'd use a light brown color & not "wet" it with gloss coat (which is how I get the wet mud look on the tracks and the closest mud spatters).

Good stuff

Hah! Those little tanks look great!

The checkers on the new grot tank look really ace Git's. Its nice to see them together as well, with a few more painted you could do a mini grot tank race diorama

That grot on the front of the last one is classic, loving that, also they look really nice together like that.

Popped in from the MW thread to check out the grot tanks, they are great! I would love to do some but I don't need to start another army. I did get the Forge World Grot bot as a sorry after I had to complain not a bad freebie, still in it's packet.

Abaddon is going to be cross when he turns back.

The tanks look orktasticly good. Ramshackle and very well painted.

You know... I don't know how it happens but if you're writing a response and accidentally hit some key or mouse button with your thumb it wipes out the entire post completely without any way to go back. MAN that p*sses me off! Just wasted 15 minutes replying to everyone and writing a post for noting!

In short (because I'm not going to waste my time again), here's the next project for the grots. It's based on a very early ork Dread (yes, that was a dread). Rokkit launcher & grotzooka are 3rd party.



And thank you everyone for your kind words...

Ha thats funny, because that happened to me on my blog when I posted the last lot of pictures. Maybe it was something in da Dakka

Anyway, more Dreads!!!!!! My fav

Grot Tanks look great Gits!

I love the 'Grots on Patrol' pic with all the other Grots on the wall behind. Nice shot!

Very cool to see the old style Dreads too!

Thanks Guts! I'm pretty pleased with the way it turned out & the unit as a whole. Have enough of those little beauties for a second unit (or a full unit of actual Grot Tanks)... but I'm not going to push it. Those are best done as labors of love.

if that was a dread i would love to see how small the kans were back then anyway i like it

There were no kans back then. Just the dread... the orks were tiny though. Nearly grot sized (not quite) when compared to modern orks. I think it makes a great kan... I plan on using the other dread arm on the last kan I have to build (which is a metal one... but relatively "modern".

It's just amazing to me how long my poor orks have been neglected. I have just a ton of things I'd love to paint that I've had plans to do for a while. Ah well, one thing at a time, right? I should get the last two kans done just in time for my grot bombs & kopta conversion supplies to arrive from the UK. Have a small packet of orks to send off to Ifalna for painting. Once those are clear I can start thinking about some bigger ork projects (for both of us). OH, and I need to fix/rebuild and repaint two battlewagons. So much to do.... *sigh*


I'm only a couple votes short on that grot tank if anyone would like to help out!

Done...

I think one of you new Kans should be a righty. All you PC are on the same side. Are Grots gonna be that consistant?

Thanks SL!

Well... 70-90% of the world's people are right handed... there's no reason that grots wouldn't have a similar smattering. Since I'll only have 6 cans total... the odds are still in my favor that they'd all still have the same dominance as far as handedness. That... and there's probably a single dominant grot-mek that's determining the building of the kans... if not directly, then at least indirectly. If he thinks all kans could be right (or left) handed... that's probably how most all would be built, at least within the clan. However... I can easily make kan #6 reversed when it comes to the arms. If I remember.

Since this kan's a little bigger and I've based him on a fancy, slightly elevated base... I think I'll make this the "boss" kan. Will have to work out some kind of appropriate boss pole for him. Should be fun!

Wow I love those tanks!

I'm not familiar with their rules, just seen the models, do you find them effective in-game?

Hi Awesomesauce! Thank you!

Well, at the moment I'm using them as rokkit buggies (i.e. normal 40k rules). Which is why all the guns on the tanks are converted rokkit launchers as opposed to the normal mix of big shootas, grotzookas and flamers. The guns are all magnetized though so I can change them out if I ever get to actually use them as real grot tanks.

As rokkit buggies... in the current rule set at least... and with the most recent builds I've been experimenting with... I love them! Small, fast, re-rollable rokkit launchers. I combine them with a squad of bikes and maybe some deff koptas in addition to some battlewagons full of boys and I have a fast, flexible force that can really deliver a whallop! Best of all, all of those units will (soon) be fully proxied by grots or models that look like grots in comparison (i.e. RT era war bikes, grot bombs modified to represent deff koptas & the grot tanks of course).

I really really love the last tank Git!

Thanks Selv! I am inordinately proud of it I must admit. The little things that I did that weren't modeled in... like making the dozer blade, painting the checkers, adding the spotter... stuff like that just gets me smiling. It's also the second "full weathering" job I've ever done, which is a bit nerve-wracking and very tedious... but in the end very satisfying.

You must explain a biyt about the weathering part... 'cause I'm very intrested in IT

Tell you what Selv... I was going to do a full weathering job on the Killa Kan I'm about to start. I'll do a step-by-step with the weathering on that. It'll be much more straight forward that trying to explain the weathering on the tanks as the kan is more-or-less made of a single material with a consistent theme rather than being piles of scrap like the grot tank (which complicates things immensely).

Will that work for ya?

That would be the cherry on the cake mate!

Decided that since this was made from an old dreadnought... that it would be a "boss" kan, so I've decorated it accordingly and dressed up the base. Also paid a little homage to the squats who were "disappeared" so many years ago...

Man.... Its crazy to think that once upon a time that was considered a Dread. Makes me wonder whats gonna happen in another decade- Dreads the size of Stompas?


Really really cool work. Boss Kan is looking great!
Is that Grotzooka the resin kit from uh.... shoot I cant think of the name xD Same guy who made the Mr. Potatohead stompa?
I also gotta say Im looking forward to the weathering tutorial!!

Irondog Studios The link will take you directly to the "scap cannon".
I actually prefer the double-barreled scrap cannon I found earlier (same guy who made the scrap missile launcher), however I can't find him any more... must be long gone. I'm still kicking around ideas as to how I'm going to paint this one... I think I have a plan now. Might get started tonight, kind of depends on whether my studio is inhabitable or not (even with AC the studio accumulates heat... so we'll see.

That's some great stuff there, do you have any of their other bits?

Just an extra PK which I may use on the last kan (still debating). You know folks are always tossing old stuff at me because they know I'm interested. I think this one actually came from SL though. Believe it or not, this isn't the earliest ork dread... the first ones had PK's that looked like crab claws (very chaotic) and and a removable middle section that you could add or take out in order to alter the height of the dread and the number of weapon mounts.

Wait... come to think of it I have several of the guns that came with it as well!

I'm loving the Kans Gitz! Btw I belive squats are comming back too for 6th ed! But once aginn this is a roumor...

Thanks Haz!


Some progress... airbrushed yellow. Gradient isn't very visible. The a dilute sepia wash. Next... metallics!

Grots ROCK !!


Had a 1500 point league game tonight vs. a Guard player with a really tough, fully mechanized, anti-ork army. He had 2 Vendettas, 2 main battle tanks including some gun that got 20 shots each time it fired, and several Chimeras with infantry including meltas and a special command squad with Straken inside. (fearless, FNP, awesome in assault, etc). I had my grots... which I brought because I didn't want to be burdened with the chore of trying to win... I just wanted to have a good time.

The grots however... had other ideas. If the game had ended on T5... I would have won! Had chance to still win on T6 and in T7 I still had a very good chance for a tie... unfortunately my dice totally abandoned me beginning T5, both in shooting and assault. With one exception..... I had a small (10-man) grot squad KILL Straken in assault after being charged by him. GO Gretchin!!

So I lost the game 2 objectives to 1 with 1 other being contested (just could not kill that damn Chimera), but it was close going the whole way, for seven long turns. Really surprising... I thought I'd be tabled by turn 3. My Big Mek was out of his mind with the repair rolls. The truck got immobilized... he fixed it, the truck got immobilized again... he fixed it again... a grot tank lost it's weapon... he fixed that too!

Fun game.... just really surprised at how versatile and resilient my grot army is. If I paint just a couple more figs I can take it up to 1750... which is about as high as I think I want to go with it.


OH, and got some painting done on the Boss Kan... the whitish areas will eventually be all checkerboards.

Sounds like you kicked bottom regardless. Punisher cannons are terrifying beasts. What was your list in the end?

HQ: Big mek w/ KFF, PK, eavy armor
EL: 5 meganobs in trukk
Tp: 10 grots + herder
Tp: 10 grots + herder
Tp: 10 grots + herder
FA: 3 rokkit buggies
FA: 7 warbikers + nob w/ PK
FA: 4 deff koptas w/ TL RL & 2 buzzsaws
Hvy: 2 Killa Kans w/ RL
HVY: 3 Killa Kans w/ grotzookas
HVY: 3 Zap Guns + herder & 3 ammo runts

And pretty much every unit contributed in some meaningful way.

Kan is looking sweet. I'm gona have to try some checkers on my Deff dread conversion!

Wow. Two battlewagon killers (Vendettas), two horde killers (Punishers) and a Straken build. GO TEAM GROT.

Very cool man, looking sweet. Do you use yellow spray paint for the kans? Ive been trying to find some but so far Im striking out

Thanks for that Brian... Straken... that was his name. Fixed the post. Actually there was only 1 Punisher... still... plenty for a rag-tag group of gretchin to worry about.

As far as 6th goes for orks it's a pretty mixed bag. Problem is that the things that negatively affect the orks are amy-wide for the most part... changes in Waaagh, shortening of the distance vehicles can travel & disembark, casualty removing from shooting, etc. I also think orks will be less effective in assault in general. Deffkoptas & Kommandos have been significantly harmed by the inability to assault when arriving from the flank. KFF got worse. New sniper rules make it far easier to snipe nobs out of mobs, or have a PK Nob called out in combat by an opposing character with a higher initiative weapon.

Tankbusta's, storm boys, lootas & bikes got better. Squadron rules improved which helps kans and warbuggies.

So, I'd say at first glance... a net negative for the orks... but not a complete disaster. Definitely second-tier lists at best now though. But on the bright side... at least I'm not Tyranids! They seem (at first glance) to have gotten screwed-over big time. I guess time will tell... and I'm not the best assessor of Tyranid tactics to begin with. We'll have to see what wyomingfox says when he gets back from his holiday.



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I'm starting the process of laying down the grid for the checker-board pattern. Easily accomplished with a micron pen. I've eyeballed most of this though with the longer lines I measure guide points (as I will with the main plate).

Looks nice, Gits. From there, you just paint in alternating black squares? Are you going to highlight the black again?

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Heh.

Gits, I think that Orks are going to GAIN some viability, I'm not sure it is a net loss. The 'Look out, Sir!' rules nerf Snipers killing characters, and the Nobs are covered. It just changes how to move your boyz around. Your BLAST weapon problem has been fairly taken care of. Now, the loss of the +1 Init on Furious charge sucks, but we'll see what happens.

I agree, however, that Buggies and Bikes are back in the game, baby! YEAH!

Not to mention the buff that Flash Gits got.

Well, I never suggested that there weren't buffs to specific units... just that the negatives seemed to hit the entire army rather than just a unit here and a unit there. Thus the balance seemed to be on the negative side. Time and play testing will tell of course.

I think the biggest across-army issue is the Furious Charge nerf. The loss of +1 Init hurts Orks more than anyone else.

Then again, no Fearless wounds...

But Fearless can't go to ground.

Finally made some progress to show off...

As always, beautiful checkerboard pattern.