Read thread talking about Dawn of War inspired terrain, started building Dawn of War inspired terrain, ended up building something more suitable to Necromunda.
Picked up New White Dwarf....Sweet Orky Goodness....
Then Supply Drop. Went to dollar store and picked up over 200 bases for my Necron Army, I plan to bring out of their hibernation
Got home, Supply Drop number two !!! Mail Lady dropped off Eldar and Tau armies, I bought while half asleep on Ebay.
Orks, Necrons, Tau, Eldar, oh my !!
The Eldar Army is unpainted, well assembled or still on the sprue, Was the better deal of the two.
The Tau are half painted and were assembled by someone who didn't understand the concepts of pinning or that you could use too much superglue. They used some sort of weird snow texture on the large bases that broke up during shipping and left a mess.
I promised myself I would play Orks "soon", but I am going to wait until at least the new Codex to come out before I start wroking on them.
The Tau mostly need paint. Vik you are right about the superglue. A sharp razor to clear it off, Pin vise drill and paperclips for new suppprt, and surgical application of superglue and it's good as new. I have to sit down with the Tau Empire Codex and see what all the hype about Riptides is about before I commit to working on them.
The Eldar are like new, and honestly I'm going to try and convince one of my friends to take them off my hands.
I had a Necron force before the last codex dropped, and they were too vanilla for my tastes. With the newest codex they seem pretty interesting to play. Unfortuantely I had them painted in some Blue and White winter paint scheme which was incredibly time consuming, and now I don't know what the hell I was thinking when I did it. To be honest, I think I may just spray paint the entire army black and apply red, brown, and silver to make the entire army look like a rusted heap with glowing green eyes.
I didn't stick with DWEZ's plans, as they are unpolished, and I didn't have any clear pens on hand at the time, but I am happy with the results so far.
I've had these Mage Knight Mechanical Dragonfly Calvary for years. I liked the way they looked, and figured I'd find a use for them eventually.
Forge World has Necron Canoptek Acanthrites. The stats are decent, and they look like flying bugs.
Looks like a pretty solid plasmawhatsit. The dragonfly dudes don't scream 'crons, but they aren't far off of the aesthetic either, I'm sure you can make them work.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Looking at them compared to the spyder thing... closer that I thought on first glance.
Maybe put the gun right between the eyes? Wow.. anywhere else that would sound like such terrible advice... It would be in-line with where they are on the official models, and there may be just enough room?
Base coat on the generator.
Finished the tracks on tracks on the grot tank.
Just won an auction for a Necron Army
Spoiler:
132 Warriors
38 Bases of Scarabs
6 Destroyers
3 Heavy Destroyers
1 Destroyer Lord
1 Tomb Spider
1 Monolith
For the Canoptek Acanthrites I thinking about building a gun on a backpack for them. That's basically what the official model has. Between my influx of new models and the impending Ork codex, I may shelf the Acanthrites for now.
For my own personal reference
Spoiler:
Necrons I was able to find laying around
Monolith x 1
Lord x2
Destoryer Lord x1
Destroyers x8 ( 3 on sprue, 2 painted, 3 damaged)
Destroyers Heavy x3
Pariahs x5
Tomb Spiders (metal) x3 ( 1 with gun arm)
Warriors 40+
Painted x20
Unpainted x10
Damaged x10
Flayed Ones x12
Scarabs x8 Painted
Metal Scarabs x4
Scythe Flyer x2
Wraiths x5
Deathmarks x10
Ghost Ark x3
Most of the surface area of the orange one is foamcoare with a layer of cardstock over it.
The Foamcoare is really just there to give it thickness. There is a learning curve to using it, but I find the finished models end up quite sturdy.
Layered cardstock would work. Cutting that many layers to matching cardstock would be more labor intensive than dealing with the foamcore, to me at least.
TBH I don't think I've fielded a Necron Army since they went from metal to plastic. I really like the terminator/undead vibe they have. I've absorbed 3 other people collections at this point. The current Codex is solid, and looks like it may have gotten stronger in 7th edition.
The plan in on alternating between painting Orks and Necrons, so I don't get burnt out painting green.
Also, if everything goes right, I'll be playing 40K against close friends Weekend Nights, and popping into the LGS Saturday afternoons. I'm thinking Orks for the casual games with friends and Necrons for the slighty more competitive league play.
Automatically Appended Next Post: About using foamcore and cardstock. Considering that I covered all the edges, and most of the surface with thin cardstock, you could probably get away with just using corrugated cardboard for the added thickness
Went digging through my cellar for my Eldar forces. Hardly found any Eldar but found that I had more Orks and Marines than I remembered. I have Marines and Orks from all the way back to the RT era. Found a box with a Kult of speed, heavily converted from Dollar store vehicles, missing the riders. There were three partially built Stompas, one GW and two kustom.
Now that the Stompa and Morkanaut are in the official codex, it may be time to finish building them. One was a bit smaller, and I was inthe process of bulking it up, but now I think the runt of the litter may end up a Morkanaut, Cunning, but Brutal.
HQs listed as
Big mek, Zagstruk (!!!), Badrukk (We knew that was coming), Grotsnik, Mek (Not big mek), Painboy, Warboss, Weirdboy.
No Wazdakka, no Zogwort.
Relics are in. Not had time to read.
Buggys don't get new weapons, do get Grot Riggers at 10 points.
Not seen anything about FNP at all yet.
Grot riggers don't just work for IWND on 'nauts, any vehicle that has them, but cost per vehicle seems to differ. 20 to put them on a 'naut. BW don't seem to have the option.
Looks to be a lot more options with selecting wargear for meks
"A Big Mek may take items from the Mek Weapons, Melee Weapons, Runts & Squigs, Orky Know-wots and/or Gifts of Gork and Mork lists."
Mob rule is replaced by the D6 roll, yes.
Kustom Mega Slugga is a thing.
A Big Mek with mega armour can take one of the following
- Tellyport blasta
- Kustom force field
Relics:
Gifts of Gork and Mork
Da Dead Shiny Shoota
Da Finkin’ Kap
Da Fixer Upperz
Da Lucky Stikk
Headwoppa’s Killchoppa
Warboss Gazbag’s Blitzbike
D6 Result
1
If the unit is locked in combat, it passes the Morale check or Pinning test. If the unit is not locked in combat, it fails.
2-3
If the unit includes one or more Ork characters (including Independent Characters), it suffers D6 Strength 4 AP- hits, and is then treated as if it had passed the Morale check or Pinning test.
4-6
If the unit has 10 or more models, it suffers D6 Strength 4 AP- hits, and is then treated as if it had passed the Morale check or Pinning test. The hits are Randomly Allocated. If the unit has fewer than 10 models, it fails the Morale check or Pinning test.
Tellyporta blasta is the back mouned thing I've been describing and seems... uh, situational at best? Very short range weapon but causes instant death on a 6 wound. Rolling a 6 on AP causes a penetrating hit regardless of AV.
Stompa in as super heavy
BW up 20 points.
D6 Warlord Trait
1 Prophet of the Waaagh!: Mork (or possibly Gork) has chosen this Warlord for greatness, and every Ork under his command knows it.
The Warlord gains the Waaagh! special rule. If the Warlord already has the Waaagh! special rule then, in addition to the usual effects, all friendly models with the ’Ere We Go! special rule gain the Fearless special rule when he calls a Waaagh!, until the start of their next turn.
2 Bellowing Tyrant: This Warlord is an unholy terror, a roaring lunatic whose every (very loud) word is law.
The Warlord, and all friendly units with the Orks Faction within 12" of him, re-roll failed Morale checks and Pinning tests.
3 Like a Thunderbolt!: This Warlord is a master of the all-out, no-holds-barred, headlong charge into battle.
The Warlord, and all friendly units with the Orks Faction within 12" of him, can re-roll all the dice when determining Run moves or charge range.
4 Brutal but Kunnin’: This Warlord has a sneaky streak a mile wide and knows just where to hit his foes.
The Warlord can re-roll one failed To Hit or To Wound roll each turn.
5 Kunnin’ but Brutal: The Warlord knows when to roll with a punch, and can shrug off the hardest blows.
The Warlord can re-roll one failed armour or invulnerable saving throw each turn.
6 Might is Right: Made of muscle and aggression, this Warlord is the embodiment of the Orks’ warlike nature.
The Warlord receives +1 to the Strength characteristic on his profile.
From NotMyIfurita:
attack squig nerfed to 1 reroll in melee per turn
Badrukk has the rules listed for Da Rippa, but it is not listed in his wargear.
Yay Tankbustas can shoot at whatever they like, and Bustas and Burnas can take dedicated trukks
Kommandos get Stealth now, thats nice.. and they didnt see a point hike like burnas and tankbustas
eww.. Ramshackle got clobbered.. 6+ save when you take a pen, if successful downgrade to glance
Buggies in units of 5, gained outflank and a minor point decrease.
Snikrot is not HQ, effectively works like before when you add to Kommandos. Listed Elite. No slot if you bring Kommandos. He has Ambush and it gives Shrouded instead of Stealth the turn they arrive... still no charge from Reserves
Killkannon still lowers transport on BW
Rule for planks is a little complicated. If you get out of open topped and declare a charge, add 2 to the charge range
Deffrolla gains AP4 and loses half the hits
Lootas HS and cheaper (shocking)
I dont see any way to get Kans or Dreads as troops
Kans come in 6 packs
Wow.. Ghazzy is a LoW but I can't see why.. they didnt change him
Wow.. if you take an Ork Warband detachment, you can Waaaagh every turn after the first
Weirdboys gain a Warp Charge point if there are 10 or more models with the 'ere we go rule (Pretty much any Ork from what I've seen) in 12" but has to take a psychic save or take a hit.
Power of the Waaagh! and Daemonlogy disciplines.
Can be upgraded to Psyker level 2.
Primaris power is Frazzle (Blast witchfire).
'Eadbanger is now a focussed witchfire.
Warpath is a self blessing
Da jump is what used to be 'ere we go.
Killbolt is a beam attack.
Power vomit (Yes really) is a template witchfire.
Da Krunch is a barrage witchfire.
Ded shiny shoota: 6 shots twinlinked shoota, rolls of 1 hit one of your own units. The bike relic has an AP3 deff gun on it, Hedwompas choppa is a +2 str, AP5, rending choppa that beheads on a roll of 6 (insta death). Da finkin kap gives your warlord an additional trait from the strategic list.
Big Mek doesnt change your FoC, nor does warboss (no more nob/dred troops).
Mek is a slotless HQ, 1 per actual HQ bought
Ghaz can take runts/squigs, but looks the same, its lord of war.
Ork psychic powers are all cool. Either high strength, or teleport, large blast etc.
Cheap IWND on vehicles (5 points on Kans, 10 on dreds)
Relics are cool and give variety.
Psychic powers are good.
Warlord traits are all useful (none of this "gives fear" rubbish)
Alot of point drops across the board.
KFF can be combined with mega armour and bikes, Shock attack gun seems to be combinable with bikes.
Git finda on SAG mek?
Painboy is IC, so put him where you need him, can take a bike.
Mega nobz look cool.
Dedi transports available for burnas and tank bustas now
Badrukk is a HQ (3+, 5++, str 7 AP2 assault 3 gun) , Snikkrot an elite (doesnt take a slot if taken with Kommandos) (shrouded on arrival, you pick an edge to outflank dont roll)
Cellar is something like 25ft by 30ft. It's the footprint of my house, with no interior walls. I've got a permanent 4ft by 8ft gaming table set up, although it's curretnly burried under boxes of miniatures. I'm planning on cleaning it up and getting a regular game night going again. Used to play there 2-3 nights a week, before I had kids.
Chip board and Cork are fairly expensive in the US, so I grab my foamcore when it goes on sale for a $1-$1.50 for a 20"x30" sheet. I've got a stockpile of it, at the moment, so I'm inclined to use it.
The Necron Army I just picked up was $260.
I was in the market for Warriors and Scarabs and the auction gives me another 11 boxes worth
$399.75 132 Warriors & 38 Bases of Scarabs
$100.00 6 Destroyers
$ 77.00 3 Heavy Destroyers
$ 31.50 1 Destroyer Lord
$ 33.50 1 Canoptek Spyder (It's the old metal one, still looks cool)
$ 66.00 1 Monolith
So about $700 worth of Necrons for $275, after shipping
Most of it is either unpainted, or basecoated silver. There is a squad of warriors painted blue, and a squad painted red, they didn't look bad. Not a choice I would hav went with, but at least it will make telling the squads apart easier.
Combined with what I already own, the only thing I'm missing is Immortals and Crypteks. I'll probably just convert some Crypteks.
At the moment I'm thinking of running a Scarab Farm with warriors and ghost arks to back them up, led by a Destroyer Lord
rules wise I can´t be of any help... but I see that this was a bargain...and to have a whole cellar of the size of the houses footprint to be used as you see it fit... that is amazing!...I know that small endeavours like building something can still be done with kids around, but often the bigger stuff like cleaning out a cellar gets so often postponed into oblivion...
I always find it quite weird how different things are so differently priced here and there... chip board is rather cheap here and I know at least three places in the nearer distance to get it quick... and have you looked for cork in the wooden floor department of your DIY market? it is often used for quieting the floors...big rolls of cork mat...
foamcore is for my own taste currently not that cheap here... and also a material I have to search for or drive longer than I want to...
I'm guessing Cork has to be imported into the US. You just don't find it as a flooring material, they use flexible foam sheeting for that. The only time I find cork is in craft supplies. I think the best price I've been able to find is $5 for 4 1ft square sheets. If I could find it cheaper I would probably use it, as it gives a nice texture for buildings and roads.
You can generally sub in corrugated cardboard for foamcore, if you take care to cover up the edges. Cork would work nicelyas a filler as well.
I'm pretty happy about the Necron army, it was a better deal than the Eldar and Tau armies I just picked up. I did find a good home for the Eldar Army with one of my friends.
The Tau army worked out to basically be the price of the codex and the 2 vehicles included, so it wasn't a terrble deal, it just looked uglier in person than it did in the pictures. To be honest I think I was confused when I bid on the Tau arm, as I was looking at another Tau army at the time. In any case, I'll probably spend the next 3 months paying for those armies, but I'll have plenty to keep me busy.
Collected Ork Rumors
Spoiler:
COLLECTED LEAKED INFO
************** There is some duplication in this version of list. I haven't had my morning cup of cofee yet, and I'm going cross eyed trying to consolidate it. I will reformat this list when I get a chance******************
ARMY-WIDE RULES 'Ere We Go lets you re-roll 1 charge die.
Waaagh! allows all units with 'Ere We Go to run and and charge in the same turn.
WARBAND FORMATION So, been going over the Formation for an Ork Warband that's listed, that alone is pretty interesting. You have to take at least 60 boyz (6 units). But as stated previously, with this formation a WAAAGH! can be called every turn after the first.
That's at least 60 Boyz that can run AND charge in the same turn, every turn after the first. And with 'Ere we go they get to reroll one charge die. And this formation gives Hammer of Wrath to every unit over 10 models that has 'Ere we go, providing they roll over 10 for charge range. Looking at the wording, it's roll over 10, not charge over 10. "it successfully charges an enemy unit and the dice rolled for its charge range is 10 or more (before modifiers)".
And for comedy value; the Formation has to have a unit of Gretchin. So technically you get Grots with Hammer of Wrath.
HQs listed as
Zagstruk Grotsnik Gives fearless, rampage and FNP MekHQ, 1 per actual HQ bought, has Boy statline, must be put into an artillery or infantry unit before start of game.
Big Mek does not change FoC "A Big Mek may take items from the Mek Weapons, Melee Weapons, Runts & Squigs, Orky Know-wots and/or Gifts of Gork and Mork lists."
Painboy nob stats, urty/slugga. Confers FNP, is IC, can take a bike, no 'Eavy Armor
Weirdboy. gain a Warp Charge point if there are 10 or more models with the 'ere we go rule (Pretty much any Ork from what I've seen) in 12" but has to take a psychic save or take a hit. Can be upgraded to Psyker level 2. Power of the Waaagh! and Daemonlogy disciplines.
Badrukk is a HQ (3+, 5++, str 7 AP2 assault 3 gun) , Badrukk has the rules listed for Da Rippa, but it is not listed in his wargear
Snikrot is not HQ, Snikkrot an elite (doesnt take a slot if taken with Kommandos) (shrouded on arrival, you pick an edge to outflank dont roll), causes fear.
Warboss does not change FoC, klaw and big choppa same cost. Boss pole, Same statline, Slugga, Choppa, Stikkbombs. Can take 'eavy armour, mega armour, TL shoota and PK. May select items from: Ranged weapons list, Melee weapons list, Runts&Squigs list, Orky...
No Wazdakka
No Zogwort.
Ghaz is a LOW now, can take runts/squigs, stats look unchaged
D6 Warlord Trait 1 Prophet of the Waaagh!:Mork (or possibly Gork) has chosen this Warlord for greatness, and every Ork under his command knows it.
The Warlord gains the Waaagh! special rule. If the Warlord already has the Waaagh! special rule then, in addition to the usual effects, all friendly models with the ’Ere We Go! special rule gain the Fearless special rule when he calls a Waaagh!, until the start of their next turn.
2 Bellowing Tyrant: This Warlord is an unholy terror, a roaring lunatic whose every (very loud) word is law.
The Warlord, and all friendly units with the Orks Faction within 12" of him, re-roll failed Morale checks and Pinning tests.
3 Like a Thunderbolt!:This Warlord is a master of the all-out, no-holds-barred, headlong charge into battle.
The Warlord, and all friendly units with the Orks Faction within 12" of him, can re-roll all the dice when determining Run moves or charge range.
4 Brutal but Kunnin’: This Warlord has a sneaky streak a mile wide and knows just where to hit his foes.
The Warlord can re-roll one failed To Hit or To Wound roll each turn.
5 Kunnin’ but Brutal: The Warlord knows when to roll with a punch, and can shrug off the hardest blows.
The Warlord can re-roll one failed armour or invulnerable saving throw each turn.
6 Might is Right: Made of muscle and aggression, this Warlord is the embodiment of the Orks’ warlike nature.
The Warlord receives +1 to the Strength characteristic on his profile.
Power of the Waaagh! Primaris power is Frazzle (Blast witchfire). 1WC
'Eadbanger is now a focussed witchfire. 1WC
Warpath is a self blessing 1WC
Da jump is what used to be 'ere we go 1WC
Killbolt is a beam attack. 2WC 18" S10 AP2 Beam
Power vomit is a template witchfire. 2WC S7 AP2 Template
Da Krunch is a barrage witchfire. 2WC S2d6 Large Blast, roll over 10 hit everything twice
Mob rule is replaced by the D6 roll on Mob Chart
Mob Chart D6 Result
1 Born to Fight: Orks love fighting, and the prospect of a good punch-up will sometimes stop them from running off
If the unit is locked in combat, it passes the Morale check or Pinning test. If the unit is not locked in combat, it fails.
2-3 Breaking Heads:The mob’s leader knocks a few heads together until the ladz settle down and get back in the fight.
If the unit includes one or more Ork characters (including Independent Characters), it suffers D6 Strength 4 AP- hits, and is then treated as if it had passed the Morale check or Pinning test.
4-6 Squabble:A brawl breaks out as the Orks decide what to do. When the dust settles, nobody can remember what the trouble was about in the first place.
If the unit has 10 or more models, it suffers D6 Strength 4 AP- hits, and is then treated as if it had passed the Morale check or Pinning test. The hits are Randomly Allocated. If the unit has fewer than 10 models, it fails the Morale check or Pinning test.
Ork Characters cannot take wounds from Breaking Eads, so if you have a unit comprised of Ork characters they automatically pass when rolling this results.
Boss Pole - Each time a unit that includes at least one model with a Bosspole rolls on the Mob Rule table, you may choose to re-roll any result other than a Breaking Heads result. You must accept the result of the re-rollt.
Ork Tactical Objectives Shoot an enemy unit off the board,
Kill the enemy warlord in a challenge with your warboss,
Destroy an enemy unit in your assault phase (more units gone, more points)
Turbo boost 3 vehicles (or bike units)
Secure a random objective (roll a D6),
Charge more than 10 inches.
A Big Mek with mega armour can take one of the following
- Tellyport blasta Tellyporta blasta is the back mouned thing I've been describing and seems... uh, situational at best? Very short range weapon but causes instant death on a 6 wound. Rolling a 6 on AP causes a penetrating hit regardless of AV.
- Kustom force field
- Shock attack gun roll of double 6 is vortex!!!
- KFF can be combined with mega armour and bikes, Shock attack gun seems to be combinable with bikes.
- Git finda on SAG
Relics:Gifts of Gork and Mork Da Dead Shiny Shoota 6 shots twinlinked shoota, rolls of 1 hit one of your own units
Da Finkin’ Kap gives your warlord an additional trait from the strategic list.
Da Fixer Upperz repair vehicles on 3+ (hull points, weapon destroyed or immobilised).
Da Lucky Stikk Can choose to reroll failed hit, wound or saving throws, if 3 of these rerolls fail in a single turn the model is removed
Headwoppa’s Killchoppa is a +2 str, AP5, two handed, rending choppa that beheads on a roll of 6 (insta death).
Warboss Gazbag’s Blitzbike Bike, Assault 3, AP 3, Str 6 twinlinked shots.
Orks kept furious charge, are susceptible to fear now
Stormboyz can NOT assault flyers
Meganobz still bulky and use 2 spots in transport
Kommandos got move through cover, stealth and infiltrate, no point hike
Ork boys Slugga boy is 6, Shoota boy is 7. Both come with stikkbombs as standard.
Lootas Heavy Support and cheaper (5 points less per squad)
Deffkoptaz 30 Points base, gun swaps are free, still a jetbike.
Buggies 25 points base, gun swap is free, up to 5, can outflank, don't get new weapons, do get Grot Riggers at 10 points.
Zzap Gun 2D6, gets hot on a 1-3 if you roll 11 or 12
Kannons unchanged
Lobbas unchanged
Stompa in as super heavy
Battle Wagon up 20 points.
Kustom Mega Slugga is a thing.
Not anything about FNP at all
Grot riggers don't just work for IWND on 'nauts, any vehicle that has them, but cost per vehicle seems to differ. 20 to put them on a 'naut. BW don't seem to have the option.
Killkannon 24 inch, STR7 ap3, large blast, Ordinance, still lowers transport on BW
Attack squig nerfed to 1 reroll in melee per turn
Ramshackle got clobbered.. 6+ save when you take a pen, if successful downgrade to glance
Planks Rules a little complicated. If you get out of open topped and declare a charge, add 2 to the charge range
Deffrolla gains AP4 and loses half the hits
ELITE
Nobz- 18 pts. Bikes in the Nob unit are +27 point upgrade. Nob Bikers are the same points as before (but nobs themselves cheaper), Eavy Armour got a point cheaper on the Nobz.
Manz- Kill saw is 10 points for the pair for mega nobz, replaces both weapons.
Waagh banner is 20 pts.
Trukk or Battlewagon for the Mega Nobz. 40 pts/model.
Tankbustas Elite, 65 pts. 2 pts/model cheaper. melta bombs, tank hunter, glory hogs- 2 vps for first blood on a tank, Tankhammer- str 8 AP3, unwieldy. 2 pt decrease/model. Bomb squig- Wargear, str 8 AP 4 can buy up to 3, works same as before, no risk to own unit. No longer have to shoot at nearest tank.
Tank Bustas Big Nob has access to Melee weapon list but cant actually take anything, Reasoning: Big Nob in Tank Busta unit is armed with Rokkit Launcha, Stick bombz, Tankbusta Bombz.
Melee weapon list: "A Model can replace their MELEE weapon with one of the following" So yes they can access the list, but have nothing to exchange to get a weapon
Burnas can take dedicated trukks , 75 pts. Unchanged.
Kommandos- Price drop. move through cover, stealth and infiltrate, stikkbombs, no shootas. Can take 2 burnas as one of their special weapons, however they can only take 2 in a mob. May include Snikkrot (doesnt take a slot if taken with Kommandos otherwise HQ) (shrouded on arrival, you pick an edge to outflank dont roll) Snikrot causes fear.
TROOPS
Ork boyz – 6 pts. +1 pt each for shootas. Units can pay for ‘eavy no longer restricted to 1 per army. One in 10 can take special weapon (Same but rokkit cheaper than it used to be). One model may be a Nob, may select from Ranged or Melee weapons list.
Gretchin- Runtherd comes with Grabba stick, can buy squig hound. If the unit breaks the hound causes D3 str 3 hits on the unit, and can then reroll the morale test.
Grot prod can exchange its attacks for a single double strength attack. AP -
Grabba reduces the enemies attacks by one
No special rules, at all
FAST
Stormboyz- For 30 points more than the old mob you get 30 Stormboys now. Jump Infantry, can run 2D6 instead of one but take dangerous terrain tests doing so. No longer blow themselves up.
Zagstruk- 6* pts. Slugga, choppa, eavy, stikkbombs, cybork, rokkit pack. 1 Less Wound, 1 Less Toughness than a Warboss. Hammer of wrath is str 8 AP2. Cant assault from deepstrike but is a HQ choice.
Deffkoptas- 30 pts each, 5 pt reduction. both its gun changes are now free. Other points stay the same
Buggies- 25 points, 5 pt reduction, up to 5, outflank. Skorcha same cost as before, trakk is a 5 point upgrade.
Warbikers- 18 pts, 7 pt reduction, no exhaust save, get +1 cover if they turbo boost now, otherwise no improved cover at all.
Dakkajets and blitza bombas- maxed out burna bommer now costs 180pts with red paint job. A maxed out blitza-Bommer cost 140pts with red paint job.
Dakka jet guns now only fire one more shot than normal on a Waaagh, not everything twice.
Blitza Bombs: 2D6, on a 2 you crash, 3 you and your target take a str 9 AP 2, otherwise you hit, with 12 meaning you can shoot your guns aswell. (str 7 AP2, large blast armour bane, one use only).
Burna Bombs str 5 AP4 large blast ignore cover. Skorcha Missiles str 5 AP4 small blast ignores cover.
HEAVY
Looted wagon- (found in WD not codex). 37 pts, 2 pt increase. 3 weapon upgrades all 5 pts each. Killkannon 30 pts.
Kans come in 6 packs, NO twin guns, NO Troop choice option, more expensive. 25% more expensive for the big shoota variant. , have special morale rule, test for panic when 25% have died, bouns for numbers and Deff Dread nearby, shaken if they fail.
Deff Dread- 80 Points, 5 pt increase, comes with 2 big shootas, rokkits are a free exchange. KMB are +5 point Exchange. Riggers are 10 points confer IWND. For the price of an old Deff Dread with 2 x Rokkits you can get a new Deff Dred with 2 x Kustom Mega Blastas and Grot Riggers. Deff Dreads can NOT be taken in squadrons
Flash gitz-
Gorka/Morkanaughts- arent assault vehicles and have no options to become one.
DT Trukk- 30 points. 5 pt reduction. Ramshackle- changed, now when you take a penetrating hit roll a D6, on a 6 that hit is now downgraded to a glancing hit. Dedicated transports available for burnas and tank bustas now.
Wreckin ball is a 3 inch range str 9 ap 4 D3 weapon.
Boarding planks- +2" on the charge the turn you disembark from an open topped vehicle with a plank
Deff Rolla- 10 pts. D3 instead of D6 hits now AP 4.
Red paint Job- +1 inch to flat out moves.
LOW
Ghazkul- Same cost, is eternal warrior. His warlord trait makes boyz within 12 inches fearless in a waaagh. Only one waaagh per game unless you are running a specific formation (which ghaz isnt in, so irrelevant sorry)
WARGEAR
Melee Weapons
Klaw- unchanged.
Kill Saws- armour bane.
Choppas- are just CCW.
big choppas- +2 strAP 5.
Ranged Weapons
twinlinked shootas and kombis
Runts & Squigs
surgical grot- reroll fnp ammo runt- reroll shooting to hit
attack squig- reroll cc to hit
grot oiler-
Orky Know-wots
Bike- Painboy's and Warbosses bike is 25 pts, a nob's bike is 27 pts.
Cybork- fnp 6+
Boss pole- reroll chart result.
Gitfinda- BS 3 if stationary.
Waaagh banner- +1 WS.
Zapp gun- 2D6, gets hot on a 1-3 if you roll 11 or 12
KFF- price hasnt changed. KFF is 5++ if embarked than vehicle gets this INSTEAD, explicitly just shooting. KFF can be combined with mega armour and bikes.
Shock attack gun- seems to be combinable with bikes. Double 6 is vortex.
Teleporta Blasta- small blast str 8 ap2, on a 6 its insta death or insta pen.
Grot riggas- IWND (5 points on Kans, 10 on dreds)
Weapons arent exchanged for many of the options on characters, the warboss for example reads "May take items from the Ranged Weapons, Melee Weapons, Runts & Squigs, Orky Know-wots and/or Gifts of Gork and Mork list"
There are other bits that do exchange weapons (taking mega armour for example). Relics are one of each per army (but can take multiple different ones)
Cheap IWND on vehicles (5 points on Kans, 10 on dreds)
Warboss/Bigmek Mega Armor Kit is a thing
Looted Wagons exclusive to White Dwarf
Big meks (non mega armour) with KFF cant take any non-relic ranged weapons. Reasoning:
KFF Replaces Slugga
Mek Weapons says "A model can replace their RANGED weapon with one of the following"
So no KMB or KMS on a non mega Big Mek
Waaagh! Banner All models in a unit add +1 to the Weapon Skill characteristic on their profile.
Killsaws Meks and Mega Nobz can take Killsaws (not buzz saws), which are armour bane power klaws. Normal nobz, and nobz in units do not have access to these.
Points cost varies (mega nobz pay 10 points to exchange both weapons for a pair of killsaws, Meks pay 20 to turn their choppas into a normal kill saw
This blog has been a blast to read through! I really like the idea of scratch-building terrain and things. I have no experience with building other than just putting together models. I have a pretty good collection of random things that I've picked up for the purpose of building as well as a decent amount of foam core (my wife works at hobby craft store!). I've been inspired to actually try and make something.
I'm looking forward to seeing more of your builds!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Another thing, did I read correctly that you got Necron bases at the Dollar store??
In the local dollar stores they have these self adhesive rigid foam pads to put on the bottom of table legs. Two of sizes match up nicely to GW bases and they have this nice metal grating texture on them. At 18 to a pack for 25mm and 8 to a pack for 50mm.
I saw these anti glide stuff too and I always have wondered about its value for our hobby... hmmm..,. how do you get rid of the self adhesive stuff?...
and... ever looked at IKEA and their cork stuff you put under glasses to protect the table surfaces? (sorry lack of word...)?
I've previously used the 25mm pads on top 25mm metal washers. It added some weight and solved the sticky problem. With this batch, I haven't decided, but was looking into 25mm plastic counters
You could just use card or paper, but you would have to trim all the bases.
In the US we just call those cork things under glasses "drink coasters" or just "coasters". Never thought of it before, but that name really doesn't make any sense.
I will have to make a trip to the dollar store here and see if I can find those. Thanks for the tip!
Automatically Appended Next Post: Cork is a little expensive but I know around here we have Michael's, AC Moore, and JoAnn's for hobby craft stores. They all put out a coupon for 40-50% off just about every week and they all accept each other's coupons. I end up getting all sorts of things for pretty cheap that way.
I'm a veteran of the 40-50% off Wars of AC MORE and MICHAEL'S
I can't remember the name of the Ap, but my wife has an Ap on her phone that has the AC More 40% off coupon on a weekly basis. They just scan her phone screen, and you can go back daily with it.
I'll have to look into the gasket material version.
Can do the same thing with the local hobby lobby, coupon reads 1/day/customer, though its unlikely a different cashier would notice. May have to get their casting kit that way.
Gonna have to implement your improved bottle cap barrel method soon.
If you want some serious inspiration for landing platforms... Then look what gitsplitta got made from camkahiri....he made a bad moon one from plastic card...awesome just doesn't cut it...link has to wait as I am on my mobile...
Hah sweet. Sounds Orky, jealous of your gaming group, but it makes me happy to hear some people get to play. Especially people who are capable of making nice terrain to enhance their game properly
I used to be a base coat everything black and work up from there kind of painter. Now I think it will be base coat yellow or red, paint black and metal , then apply washes.
They won't win any painting contests that way, but my original painting technique was never award winning either.
Good enough for a Gorkanaut, good enough for my kanz, stompa, dreads, Manz, etc...
It's 40K. Roll to hit, roll to wound, roll to save, etc... The game basically is the same. Just need to get used to all the little special rules here and there.
I like it, but honestly I've played so litte since my kids were born that I couldn't really tell you off hand what the
Thread here detailing the differences in MDF and Chipboard for the amatuer laser cutter enthusiast
Spoiler:
Laser Grade really isn't a thing...
With MDF, you want to get NAUF MDF (no formaldehyde binders...). For ply, you want interior grade adhesives (exterior grade will cut...just the adhesives are different enough from the wood that slicing through the layers becomes a challenge on some lower powered machines).
I have said it before - and I will say it again...cabinet shops. Medite is one of the more commonly available brands of NAUF MDF (in the US, and pretty sure they are in Europe as well). You can get it from 1/8" up to 1" without much difficulty - and it comes both thicker and thinner than that too. You won't find it on the shelves of a big box store or even most local lumber yards though. Distributors like Hood, Rugby and Royal Plywood sell to cabinet and furniture shops directly...and if you ring them up, they will likely be willing to throw a sheet or two on their next order for you.
Barring that, specialty wood working stores online can sell partial sheets too - but it is an expensive way to do it. Your shipping cost will be higher for a partial sheet than buying a full sheet locally.
HDF and Masonite are not the same thing...and the tempered thing, well, that is just confusing things further.
MDF, LDF, HDF and ULDF are all going to be smooth on two sides. They will never be found tempered - that is a process used on a different material. You can find regular and what is sometimes referred to as double refined or sometimes substrate grade (or even called door grade) in your fiber boards. These are smoother than regular fiberboards as the fibers have been processed twice before forming the panels.
Hardboard (one of the brand names is Masonite) is a bit different than fiberboard. I won't bore you with the particulars, but the fibers are a bit shorter, so the finished surface is even smoother than MDF. You can get hardboard in S1S and S2S varieties. The S1S will be very smooth on one side and look a bit like a waffle on the back side, this comes from the screen which it is pressed against during processing. S2S is smooth on both sides being pressed between two polished metal plates.
Hardboard comes in regular and tempered. Tempered has had an oil treatment applied in order to make it moisture resistant, and it is a common material used for things like signs and skins for garage doors (and even some siding will be made from it). When looking at the unprocessed hardboard, you can tell the difference between tempered and regular by the color, with tempered being noticeably darker than untempered. When tempered - it is tempered everywhere...but that has no bearing on whether it is smooth on one side or two sides.
You can find hardboard in 1/8" and 1/4" without much difficulty from big box stores. Sometimes raw, sometimes in their paneling departments with a coat of primer applied to it. It is also available in 1/2" thicknesses from lumber distributors as that is the thickness which is often used for signs (the 1/2" will almost always be tempered).
Again - you can buy it online from several sources if you want...but the shipping is ridiculous for a product that is so cheap (but bulky). A quick look at one supplier, and I can get 20 sheets from a local shop for the same price that I can get one sheet cut into 2x2 squares shipped to me.
Depending on what you are looking for in particular though - you may also want to add chipboard to your searches (not to be confused with particle board or OSB - both of which are sometimes called chipboard). Chipboard is a thick card or paper type product as opposed to the MDF/hardboard processing techniques. It is often used for things like book bindings and photo boards, and is available in a variety of thicknesses starting from thick paper all the way up to around 1/8". Art supply houses like DickBlick sell it online (you can also pick up hardboard from them...though you will need to verify if it is S2S).
It was an interesting read for me since I had contemplated getting a laser engraver/cutter. Ended up being much too expensive for me to get as a hobby item, but I contemplate trying it as a small buissiness. Right now, just don't have the time it would take. Doesn't stop me from dreaming about a kickstarter funded terrain buissiness of my own
Huh, yeah that is interesting. The whole 3d printing and laser cutting concepts are very intriguing to me, but there's no way I'd have the follow through to make a business out of it. If you ever start something up, I'm liable to have at least a mild interest, you make some spiffy things here.
As to the banner, thanks I've been meaning to put something in there for ages.
It takes an estimated 10K USD to get a laser cutter buissiness going with proffesional grade equipment. Epilog, who makes top of the line laser cutters, also offers lease agreements.
Still daydreaming about working up a bunch of designs, getting a short term lease, and running a kickstarter to make back my investment.
I've got a bunch of great ideas batting around in myhead, but I keep getting distracted and losing focus before implementing them.
Well that's just as cool. Getting to see you make cool stuff is as good or better than buying it myself. I'm waist deep in terrain as it is, and I'm a reasonably tall guy. Definitely looking forward to seeing what you come up with though
Honestly, I don't know if he is just testing the waters with custom orders, and I didn't want to see him flooded with simultaneous requests, at least not until after he's done some work for me.
My 30 'Ard Boyz w/Shootas, nob, and rokkit launchas is now tipping the scales at 370 points. Going to have to rethink my 500 point Ork force. May trade them in for 30 slugga/choopa boyz.
Also, looks like I'll need to be kustomizing some Pain Boyz and Big Meks.
Got some progress done, although none of it really picture worthy.
Monoliths - Spray painted base coat of flat Black, followed by hand painted layer of Gloss Black. The plan is to add 3 layers of progressively lighter green around the edges to give it that classic Necron Look.
Ork boyz - Found, assembled, and base coated Yellow 30'ish Assault on Black Reach Slugga Choppa Boyz.
Got tank - Base coated tank Treads black, then decided I need to add more rivets to it before painting it further.
Cardboard Ruins - I wasn't happy with the way the edges were turning out. Applied PVA glue and sand to the offending edges. Happy with the results. Lots of edges though, didn't have time to finish.
Bunker Fortification - Toying with the idea of adding 3 Bunkers and 2 Aegis Defense Lines to my army list. Only problem is I need to scratch build them. Started experimentally building one out of cardboard.
Tried out a 500 point Ork army list with a bunker fortification. It was worth 80 points to get a 20 boyz mob 18" across the field in turn 1.
The bunker on the left is made from corrugated cardboard and the one on the right is foamcore.
Both have been covered in white labels. I had roll that was discarded from work, and they served nicely to seal and reinforce the model. Gives it a bit of ramshackle metal plate look.
Not able to get me the rulebook this year...I need to ask, do the bunkers function as an underground network??? Cool... I need to see it painted to say if the labled look works...but I guess adding rivets would be helpful
The bunker is AV14 with 2 fire points allowing 8 models to shoot from inside for 55 points.
There is an escape hatch upgrade, for 25 points, that allows you to place an additional acces point for the bunker 12" away.
Deploy boyz in building, on edge deployment zone, place access point 12" into middle of battlezone.
Turn 1, disembark boyz at access point and then move 6", run for additional distance if you like.
The Escape Hatch does not benefit from Repel the Enemy special rule, so troops exiting through escape hatch can not assualt ont he same turn.
I've used this in 2 battles so far, and none of my oppenents were thrilled by 20 Orks, with FNP, on the edge of their deployment zone turn 1
Viktor von Domm wrote: I bet... tho I have yet never played a game, I have read that fighting that hailstorm of dices an ork mob produces...is quite the thrill^^
30 Boyz with Shootas firing with 60 dice is a thing of beauty, only matched by 30 slugga/choppa boyz with 120 dice on the charge.
30 Boyz with Shootas firing with 60 dice , 20 hit, 10 wound, then they make saves
30 slugga/choppa boyz with 120 dice on the charge. 60 hit, 30 wound, then they make saves
It never works out that well in practice. The boyz have cardboard 6+ armor, take casualties from snapfire when they charge, and you can never really fit them all into melee.
On a good day though, your charging a 5-10 man unit, caused a casualty shooting with pistols before the charge, only lost 5 or so boyz to snapfire, and then manage something like 15 wounds, that manages to murder 5 or so MEQ troops, crippling that squad. .
Their greatest strength is tying up the enemy for most of the game, while the real threats get into position.
Deff Dreads are slow, but they enemy can't shoot at them if they are tied up in melee.
In the last 2 games I've had lobbas go completely unmolested. The enemy spent the entire time dealing with boyz, and then had to waste another turn wiping out grots
Now that killing stuff isn't the main source of VP's, games can be won by forcing the enemy to deal with minor threats while you work the angles.
While playing this weekend I ressurected some ancient terrain I never got around to finishing.
Back when Tau came out I started a Tau force, that I never played more than once or twice. To go along with that terrain I tried to make approriate Tau terrian. Unfortunately most of that terrain was evidently held together with the promise of peace between worlds and good intentions, since it fell apart the instant I took it off the shelf and tried to use it.
Today I was able to rebuild one piece. Reinfoced it from the inside, in a manner similar to what I did with the bottle cap storage bins.
Seriously though, you wouldn't be on dakkadakka if you didn't have hobby ADHD.
I had never thought of it that way. Good to know I'm not the only one.
Speaking of focussing on one project... Look shiny !!
I've been playing an Ork list with 5 lobbas, using artillery models that are anything but lobbas. So I broke down, dropped my trowsers, and bought a Ork Mek Gun kit.
The Ork Mek Gun kit, is laughabley overpriced, but I wanted to have one for size comparison, so I can build my lobbas to scale. Already had one minor accusation of modelling for advantage when I decided to field one of my old metal Ork Dreanuaghts last week,
Anyhow, I went to the Dollar Tree and found there action figure scaled artillery pieces and ATVs, and bought 5. Probably not the best start for Lobbas, but if I can make the other Mek Gunz cheap, I'll build some of them as well.
The one on the right is a lobba. It's smaller than the new Mek Gunz, but so is the official GW model. The Mek Gunz are huge compared to the Eldar and AM counterparts.
The eldar terrain kind of looks like a titan sized khorne, demon buried. Or well avatar hats look kind of like that too don't they? Either way it impresses upon me a sense of extra mass hidden behind the surface... seems like an eldar-y concept so I think you're on the right track!
I thought it was a giant Ultramarine icon buried. If you "Eldar" it up - spirit stones and runes and the like, it should be fine though. Especially if they're not right next to each other like that, too.
We've been playing on a 48" x 72" table, but my little gaming group has grown to 6 40K players. I've spent what little free time I've had this weekend cleaning out the cellar. There is another 48" x 72" table, but it's burried under a mountain of boxes of miniatures, toys, and hobby supplies. Going to have to find a way to store all that stuff and free up the second table.
I'm also up to 2 1/2 scratch built lobbas. They seem to get a little bigger with each new incarnation.
GrimDork wrote: Well... how else are you supposed to make them better if not bigger?
Bigger and bulkier does look Okier, but I don't want to build giant bullseyes that can hit from across the table.
Gonna have two gaming tables to run games for your buddies? Jealous!
Necessity is the mother of invention.
The LGS has a 40K league on Saturday Morning and Afternoon, and they close about 8pm.
We game alternating Friday and Saturday Nights from about 8pm to 1-2am.
4 of us can play comfortabley on the one table.
5 of us can play with 1 player whining about being double teamed.
6 of us, yeah I don't want to know...
I've been procrastinating straightening out the cellar since the release of 6th edition 40K, so this is positive motivation to get it done.
The pen tips were a big time saver. I coudn't honestly see myself scupting green stuff tips for every rokkit.
I know the modern ork kits have armor plates on the wheels, but I just can't bring myself to do it. It seems so terribly impractical. What I think I'm going to do witht he lobbas is give them an amor plate across the front, like the meck guns and buggies have.
I see what you mean...it would be like using square wheels...
Necron tanktraps is an interesting and probably unique world wide concept...a true first one I think...will there be tendrils...or at least these spikes water mines have?...but as this is necron stuff...probably Glowy lines,eh?
Also you could use wooden rods and a pencil sharpener...but why waste good...er waste
I saw this ice cube mold in the dollar store that reminded me of tank traps. When I cast some up, they were more crsytal looking than tank trap, and a bit shorter than I would have liked. Noticed that they stacked up nicely when you inverted one. Floating tank traps seemed like the next logical step
Necron tanktraps is an interesting and probably unique world wide concept...a true first one I think...will there be tendrils...or at least these spikes water mines have?...but as this is necron stuff...probably Glowy lines,eh?
The plan is for floating black crystals with green highlights. If I get real adventerous maybe some object source lighting radiating down onto the ground.
Also you could use wooden rods and a pencil sharpener...but why waste good...er waste
I'm not sure I follow your train of thought. Were you thinking more primitive wooden spike tank traps ?
I've wanted to field titans since 2nd edition. Had the old Armorcast ones in my collection, but sold them years ago due to the lack of official rules support.
Got excited about the Imperial Knights, but I didn't like the model enough. The Cerastus looks amazing and it's satisfyingly larger. I managed to wrangle one for less than my first born.
M.A.D.D. (Modelling Attention Deficit Disorder) kicking in.... bought an unpainted Astra Militarum (Imperial Guard) army.
I was really just looking for the Astra Militarum Codex, and the army got thrown in at a price too good to pass up.
20 Dreamforge Guys
40 Mantic Corporation Marines
3 Mantic Heavy Weapons Teams
1 Taurox
1 Lemun Russ
1 Chimera
1 box new Ogyrns
3 Sentinels
1 Commisar plasma/sword
AM Codex
AM Orders Cards
I know I have at least that many Cadians in storage, and probably that many Goliaths as well. ( many years ago I bought out all the Necromunda Goliaths from the GW Mail Order Trolls, to use as a Penal Legion)
May the Emperor share his wisdom with his humble servant and point me down the path to which I army I should work on first...
Hah! That's awesome, the corporation marines and dreamforge troopers are pretty slick, I'd put them up against guardsman any day! The corporation guys clean up a little slower, but i really like mine now that they're done.
If your talking about the Ork stuff, thank you. Your Ork Meganobs and Dakkajet are the standard I try to work up to.
If your talking about the Cerastus Knight Lancer, that's the Forgeworld stock art
GrimDork wrote: Hah! That's awesome, the corporation marines and dreamforge troopers are pretty slick, I'd put them up against guardsman any day! The corporation guys clean up a little slower, but i really like mine now that they're done.
Sounds like a steal of an acquisition!
Can not say the Corporation Marines are my favorite, but like them enought that I've told myself I would get some if I could get them cheap, and I did.
I'm a fan of the Dreamforge guys, but didn't really have a use for them, that I didn't already have other models for. They look a little to heavy for IG, and a little to light for marines. The guy I got them from was using them as AM Stormtroopers, and I'm happy with that. Also gives me an excuse down the line to buy more of therm.
The Taurox and Ogryn were a nice bonus. They are the kind of models I think look great, but weren't really planning on buying.
Worst case scenario I have new big Nobz and a Trukk.
If you didn't get the Eisenkern storm troopers accessory kit, I highly recommend it. I don't like their aesthetic a whole lot, but a lot of their tools work for other models. And if you actually have the Eisenkern dudes, you'll get a lot of mileage for 15-20 bucks.
If nothing else, you would get a bajillion stikk bombz for Orks
Yeah, they looked fiddly so I left them on the sprue for now, but the pouches are just... lovely. I wish mantic would make a scifi-ier variant. Or anybody really.
Must be the case... Or I guess a good reason to carry around a chainsword as a space marine. Though... if you're being even remotely realistic about your fuel consumption.... you'd need spare fuel for chainswords every 30 minutes to an hour or so.
GrimDork wrote: Must be the case... Or I guess a good reason to carry around a chainsword as a space marine. Though... if you're being even remotely realistic about your fuel consumption.... you'd need spare fuel for chainswords every 30 minutes to an hour or so.
RT Era fluff stated that all the high tech stuff was really high tech and miniaturized to the point that objects were only as large as they were to make them easy to handle.
That Chainsword has some sort of miniature reactor in it that keeps it going for hundreds of years, it might as well be magic.
I'd get Orks being tetrible shots needing glasses to see straight, if they were being used as Tau.
Really, though I was just thinking of using human heads and feet on all the Tau Fire Warrior models. Humans that were seperated from the Imperium for hundreds of years and have joined the Tau Protectorate.
My daughter is back in school Monday morning, and my son follows the week after. Once they are back in school, I am going to dedicate an hour a day to woking on my models.
First the Cerastus Knight Lancer. It's freaking beautful and I'm really intent on building and painting it .
The Orks will be an ever ongoing project. I have soo many half finished ork projects, it will take most of 2015 to clear them out.
(15+warbikers, 10+buggies, 2 Stompas, 45 Tankbustas, 45 Lootas, plus the regular boyz and grots to fit inbetween, and I want a Morkanaut)
Astra Militarum (200+ foot sloggers, 12+ tanks, 50 Sentinels)
Necrons (2 Ghost Arks and 2 Scythes with no instructions, wraiths, canoptek spyder)
Grey Knights I own a single squad of Grey Knights, but I figure if I'm going to field a Space Marine force it might as well be the one with the lowest model count on the board and the simplest paint job Imperial Knights I love working on the larger scale models. They are impressive to field, easier to work with, and easier to paint.
The plan is to eventually have one of each of the Imperial Knight variants (right now that is 5. The Two standard, the White Dwarf Exlcusive one, and the two Cerastus Knights from Forge World)
I'll aslo keep this thread alive as I have tons of Terrain I've started, or intend, to build.
Also plan on building an 8ft4ft gaming table with storage.
This weekend's gaming session involved my friend bringing his new Tyranid force. We got to talking and I dug out my Tyranid force that I had assembled back in 2nd and 3rd edition. Technically it's playable, and for some reason I have more Lictors thans any same person should own. Feeling nostalgic I made the mistake of looking at Tyranids on Ebay. Ended up scoring another 50 or so Tyranid models for $50.
GrimDork wrote: Too bad I didn't know you were after tyranids
I didn't really know I was after Tyranids, just saw a low bid an placed one myself.
Just a quick WIP shot before I run off to work. I'm having a slight problem with the build. The magnets I used at the Torso are not strong enough to support the weight of the upper body with the arms attached.
Think I may just scrap the magnet idea and just putty and glue it in place.
I recently discovered a vile plot, no doubt by villainous agents of chaos. It appears that forge world is planning on producing four Imperial Knight-titans (Lancer, Castigator, Archeon, and Mageara). My plan to aquire and conquer all available imperial Knight models has ballooned from three to seven aquisitions. My wife will not be pleased.
I am hereby sanctioning mind wipes on my wife if she discovers this situation, and exterminatus to all the traitors involved in her discovery of my plans....
Also discovered a box of vitage RT Era Adeptus Astartes vehicles I had assembled and never really got around to finishing their paint jobs. I plan on painting them shortly in anticipation of the 7th edition Blood Angels codex. If Blood Angels keep their dreadnaught choices as they are now, I'll be working on nine dreadnaughts as well.
Just a quick WIP shot before I run off to work. I'm having a slight problem with the build. The magnets I used at the Torso are not strong enough to support the weight of the upper body with the arms attached.
Think I may just scrap the magnet idea and just putty and glue it in place.
That build is looking fantastic so far! I like the pose a lot.
My poor lancer has been knocked over and re-assembled no less than 3 times.
First time the magnets just were not strong enough.
Second time my wife knocked him over.
Third time I was fiddling with adjusting his shield arm, disarmed him, and swept the leg like Karate kid.
He's back in fighting form, with a rubble textured base.
Have not had time to paint or take pictures becuase I'm working on my penultimate gaming table project.
4ft by 8ft gaming surface, with ample space under the raised gaming area for drinks, codex, miniatures in reserve, etc.. and more than 4ft by 8ft by 2ft off the floor storage space under the table, with dice rolling trays along both the long ends.
I've been wanting to build a proper gaming table for years. This week the stars aligned perfectly as my friend ,most handy with power tools, and fellow member of my gaming circle is on vacation, with no plans other than building the penulitmate gaming table !!
Ahh sweet, sounds like a fun table. I've always had one form of makeshift/convertible/travel table, and would love to build one if we ever move somewhere for serious, as in buy a house instead of renting. Would be a bear to move.
Sucks about the knight lancer. Seems like it's just the way of things for that to happen though, good that you've got him set back up.
The gaming table is spiralling out of control, but at least it's in a good way.
Monday - I really want to build that gaming time some time soon.
Tuesday - Oh wow, you have this week off ? We'll start it tommorrow. This is what it should look like.
Wednesday - Thought about it over night, this is a better way to build it. First supply run $90. Bottom level built.
Thursday - Second supply run $30. Second level built as planned.
Friday - Today we will build the FINAL LEVEL !!! Oh wait, who is at the door ? Hello friend who does Carpentry and Home remodelling for a living. We should build it this way you say ? Stronger it will be ? Redesign support system for supporting third tier. Not enough wood on hand .Rummaging through basement, find scrap wood. Redesign to accomodate additional supply. Add additional supports. Oh my, it's beautiful...
I'll get some pictures uo either tonight or tomorrow morning. It's built. Still unfinished, but defintely servicable. We'll put it to the test Saturday night, 4 players 750 points each
I've decided to cover the top two tiers in felt . Amazingly, it's cheaper and faster than putting down a few layers of good paint, and alot less likely to scuff hardcover rule books and Ipads/tablets than textured paint would be.
Haven't decided how to attach the dice trays yet. The idea of them sliding in and out was discussed. I may just make them removable, so they could be lifted to use, and then set back into the table when not in use.
In any case, I've pretty much spent all my free time before work, this entire week, working on this project and I'm quite happy with the progress. Excited about tomorrow. Only 2 other members of my gaming crew are aware of this project, and only one of them has layed eyes on it. There will be some pretty suprised gamers.
Lost an entire post somehow. I had posted these pics this morning.
Abridged version, quick pics before I start painting.
A good portion of this ruble paste is scrap and shavings that was cut from this model. Add some glue, black paint, black sand, and pencil shavings and you have rubble!!
Dag. I'm kind of in the same place with stupid kickstarters Damn mantic and battle systems right to hell says my wallet! And if I see another one of those dreamforge leviathan black friday mega deals I may just lose it and order one :(
Gonna live through your Knights vicariously I hope! It looks like a lot of fun, do you have a plan to paint it yet? Airbrush? Painstaking hard work with the brush?
I have an airbrush that I've never taken the time to use, and this isn't really the kind of project I want to risk butchering, so it's time to break out the brushes, some really big brushes.
Hah! Well good luck, I think I'd ruin something like that trying it with brushes myself. Streaky badness, but I've never painted too many tanks and bigger.
For tanks and the like I usually use spray paint for the main color, and then use paint brushes for line detail, washes, drybrushing, etc....
For the knights, I'm going to spray paint everything first. The armor plates are mostly removable, so they get basecoated whatever color I choose, and the rest of the body will be base coated black. The knee pads are the only armor plates that are not removable.
I really should have shut off the flash. The model in real life is much darker. The metal components came out looking worse in the pictures. It does show the progress I have made though.
I'm thinking of fielding him as part of a Taghmata Omnisiah force. Just started reading through Horus Heresy Book 3: Extermination, and all the Imperial Knight Choices are in the Taghmata Omnisiah force.
All the Adepts Mechanicus stuff is usually red armor plating with the skulls and gears logos. The Adeptus Mechanicus fluff apeals to me more than the Imperial Knight's fluff, and I really didn't want to paint heraldry.
Back when Ad Mec was all Tech priests and repainted IG stuff it didn't do anything for me. Now the 30k lists have robotic choices that all look really cool for Taghmata Omnisiah that I can really get into. Although I should probably wait until after the holidays.
I've been playing Necrons and working on Imperial Knights. Should really get both of those forces in order before working on anything else.
Speaking of which, does anyone have the instruction sheets for Necron Arks and Scythes I could get a copy of ? I'd be happy to deal with scans or reimburse you for postage.
I've amassed a pretty large Necron force by absorbing other peoples collections, but I didn't get any instruction sheets along the way.
you have some odd wash related spots on the armor...
the model is a star... no doubt...be sure of my envy here^^... was lurking the last coupla weeks...
also...I am really looking forward to see some pics of your table under construction... really..... some peeps would be even interested about diagrams...
I made my own heavy black wash, using Les' Wash Recipe, and just applied it over the whole damn model. I think it made the metal portions look great, but yes the armor plates need touching up with red to eliminate some of the muck.
I am really looking forward to see some pics of your table under construction... really..... some peeps would be even interested about diagrams...
I'll take some pics, and I'll see what I can do about diagrams as well. I wanted to get some paint on it and get it finished, but the thing is so big I can't lift the layers apart by myself. It's strictly a two man job and I haven't been able to find a second set of spare hand with free time to do it.. We were also going to instal additional lighting in th eroom over the table that is just sittng over in a corner.
I have a week of vacation coming up in October and I want to build a second table during that week. I'll be sure to take pictures as we go along for step by step instructions.
Nice Lancer; I went black and silver with mine. I've played one game with him so far and he's such a big target he didn't kill anything....darn unchained Necron god-thing....*grumble*
agnosto wrote: Nice Lancer; I went black and silver with mine. I've played one game with him so far and he's such a big target he didn't kill anything....darn unchained Necron god-thing....*grumble*
Necrons pretty much have to be the worst match up for Imperial Knights.
I have one Necron player in my gaming group chomping at the bit to face my all Imperial Knight Force. I told him it's never going to happen.
Unrelated, I spent this morning making some pipe pile barriers and 6 objective markers. Will post pictures of those within the next 24hrs.
First off is a set of 6 objective markers I'm in the middle of painting.
I actually made these as terrain for Gorkamorka, back in the 2nd Edition days of 40K. The rocket shape came from seem cheap plastic toy I found in a yard sale that I molded and cast a few copies of in Plaster of Paris. Oddly enough they have been sitting in a box for these years with only a black base coat on most of them. Still need to paint some numbers on them and work on their bases.
A close up of the one with the leaky drums
Statis Chambers / Bacta Tanks
The one on the left is storage container from some tiny Halo bobble head toy blind pack. I tossed Master Chief, but kept the container. Using a vacuum former I was able to duplicate the top and bottom pieces and used cut down prescription bottles for the body.
I came across a tutorial here on Dakka for pipe pile terrain. $2 trip to the dollar store for straws and foam core seemed a small price to pay, so I started building a few. The real magic happens when they get paint on them, but they are functional, cheap and easy to build.
I'm going to go get something to eat, and see what I can do about getting some pictures of the gaming table
Automatically Appended Next Post: The Gaming Table is so big it was hard to find an angle where I could get it all in the picture.
The Top Surface is 4ft x 8ft.
The Second tier is 5ft x 8ft.
The shelf on the second tier is 15 inches along the long side and 12 inches along the short ends.
The Bottom tier is 4ft by 8ft, with about 2ft vertical clearance for 64 cubic feet of storage.
It's designed to encourage standing while playing.
The storage space off of the gaming surface was a very important feature for me. I like the elevated gaming surface. It's more of a view from the soldiers eye level than top down view.
There are fold out chairs, out of frame, but no one used them.
We play late at night. I've found that a couple of our players occasionally doze off if they are sitting and not very active. With everyone standing they were much more lively.
I saw them and instantly thought Void Shield Generator. Then I read the rules for the Void Shield Generator and kind of lost my enthusiam to build one. I will eventually, just to have the option to field one, and at wost just some tall LOS blocking terrain for my Knights to hide behind
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BunkerBob wrote: So for supplies do you just walk into the kitchen on garbage day and just walk with the entire bag to your room and go through it?
The good stuff never makes it into the garbage bin.
I eye everything for it's potential before tossing it.
Lol the glowy blue guy looks like he could just about take the Lancer. Since he's glowy and blue, if he were just a giant that thing would tear him to pieces.
Sammoth wrote: Um not sure what to think about those rocket shapes lol.
I've had those for a decade and I never saw the phallic comparison until last weekend. One of my fellow players giggled like a school girl saying it reminded him of a phallus and scrotum. I really didn't think anything of it when he said it. In any case, any resemblance to human genetalia is coincidense and completely unintentional.
Sammoth wrote: Um not sure what to think about those rocket shapes lol.
I've had those for a decade and I never saw the phallic comparison until last weekend. One of my fellow players giggled like a school girl saying it reminded him of a phallus and scrotum. I really didn't think anything of it when he said it. In any case, any resemblance to human genetalia is coincidense and completely unintentional.
Thanks Sammoth !! I was finding it weird that no one had commented on the objective markers, but I guess that may be the reason why.
Found some more, rock themed, Gorkamorka terrain and base coated it black. Also got some paint on the death marks and power generator thing.
I've been feilding Necrons lately, so I expect my focus to shift towards them and away from orks for a while. Also received my Adamantite Lance, so I have 3 Imperial Knights that need work.
Expect Necrons and Knights with a sprinkling of terrain in between for at least the next month.
That rocket just ending up as that good of a wang joke has got to be equivalent to getting a haircut and the hair makes a stylized Elvis face on the floor
My friend once bought a RT Era Chaos Dreadnaught off of Ebay. Once it arrived he realized it had a custom sculpted organic gun mounted between the legs.
This spawned a entire discussion of Slannesh themed Chaos Marine Modelling possibilities that wouldn't be appropriate to use around the women and children.
Rebased two of the missles so they look like they are coming from an underground silo, and not just sitting there derelict.
Assembled and got painted to a quick tabletop standard a squad of Necron Deathmarks. In nearly 20 years of gaming this is probably the first time I assembled and painted a squad in the same week I bought them.
Also picked up a cheap squad of Necron Pariahs off of Ebay. Sure they are OOP and not int he rules anymore, but they would make pretty decent alternative models for Crypteks, which my collection is currently lacking.
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Updated image of Necron Tank Traps, click on to enlarge
I was thinking of attempting some Object source lighting below them, but I'm a bit hesitant since I've never tried it before.
Will defintely have to cast more of these up. I especially like the half submerged one looks and mau just add them like that to random scatter terrain.
Sounds like mad Necrons to me, and all possible now with the fluff saying program degradation, no knowing what a necron world will be like once they wake
Definitey leaning towards a Necron Tombworld theme at the moment with my terrain. I might as well give my troops a home field advantage
Now I need to make a few pieces of terrain a Cerastus Knight can hide behind ....
HIt the rocket markers with a black wash, to make them look a little bit more worn.
Also started sorting my Necron Scarabs swarms. I aquired them all second hand and most of them had rudimentay paint jobs that I'm now trying to tie together for a bit more uniform look.
There is also a squad of warriros I am going to try and paint to match the Deathmarks
I've gathered a rather large Necron collection, mostly 3rd edition models, all second hand. None of them with finished based, msot othem just base coated, and a bunch of them broken.
NECRON REHAB
These poor little buggers were glued directly to the base, without flight stands and no basing. I used them as test models for a Ice World themed Necron Army, that I eventually decided against.
Snow flock has been applied, but not much else based detail, since they were already securely glued flush to the surface.
These Scarabs came in blue scheme, that I persoanlly would have never chosen, but it doesn't look bad, so I'm not going to repaint them. I added a soft black wash to bring out the details more and added the rubble texture to all the bases.
These came base coated bright silver or brass, and mostly brocken off the bases. I hit them with a heavy black wash, which toned down the brightness nicely and really made the detail pop. On a couple of the bases I'm experimenting with some crystals, that I paln to glue scarabs crawling over and around.
These warriors were also spray painted shiny silver and I hit them with a heavy black wash, which ages the mdoels nicely and makes the details stick out.
With Orks I felt the compulsive need to Kustomize each of the models. Necrons are mearly a matter of assembling as is. It's made a huge difference.
Necrons are also hands down the easiest 40k army to paint. You can have a functional paintjob with a metallic base coat and black wash.Paint the guns black and dot the eyes with some green and you can call it a day. It gets the job done, and you can always come back and add more detail later.
I've already gotten the Destroyer Lord rebased, and I scratch built an appropriate sized base for the spyder. I currently have 5 Spyders without bases, so I'm toying with molding and casting bases veres scratch building them over and over.
A bunch of pictures of my Necrons with an Ice World Paintjob I did a few years back. I don't hate it and my gaming group likes it, but it was too labor intensive for too little a reward. I will not be using that scheme in the fute, and I'm probably going to strip and repaint some of it.
An idea I had for numbering Necron objective markers
and a bunch of terrain I desperately need to repaint.
Don't have time to take, edit, and upload pics at the moment, but I have a dozen new Scarab Bases based and painted, and I made the numbering on my monolith objective markers a texture, and not jsut marker. Will try to get new pics uploaded tonight.
I'm on vacation starting Sunday, here is what I hope to accomplish in order of importance
Build Second Gaming Table
Document Building Process this time.
Build 3 Necron Scythes
Paint 3 Necron Scythes
Make Mold that will let me make 5 Scarab bases at a time
Build and paint 30 Scarab Bases
Build 2 additional Canopteck Spyders
Sob uncotrollably if the New Necron Codex comes out for Halloween, like it's rumored, and find that Scarabs have been nerfed.
Quick picture of the first table looking sloppy at the moment.
Last night we built and secured the middle tier, as well as built the top gaming surface. Still need to build the support frame that elevates the playing surface. Plan to get that done Wednesday night.
Haven't touched the scythes yet, but I did get a supply drop. Built a Catacomb Command Barge and a Nemssor Zandreck in the last 12 hours.
I didn't fall off the map, just having problems with getting enough sleep, leading to me being mopey all day, and having issues with time management.
Completely built the second gaming table, which came out better than the first.
Focused so much on Necrons that I started getting burnt out working on them.
Started impoving random bits of terrain, adding base coats of paint, and modelling detail, all without acutally finishing any of them.
Bult more ruins. I took a bunch of pictures of the new ruins I built, and I'll post them along with in game shots I plan to take this weekend.
Imminent Tryanid and Blood Angel releases have kept me distracted over the last week, and have tempted me to work on those armies as well.
In a momentary lapse in judgement I bought 9 Space Marine Centurions. It was 9 for the price of 3, so it was a good deal, but I really haven't touched my marines in at least 2 editions of 40K. Some time soon I'm going to copy GrimDork and post a Space Marines pile o shame.
Glad to hear that you haven't fallen off the map.
I'm sorry that the blues have hit you as well. As soon as it starts getting dark earlier I start getting all blah. I actually started a plog to hopefully help me focus on painting minis and keep my mind busy in a more positive way. Maybe it will help!
Goofed and created a new gallery instead of just adding them to the original gallery Full sized versions of these images can seen here the orininal ruins gallery can be seen here
It was fun whipping up a tables worth of terrain out of two sheets of dollar store foam core and scrap cardboard. The best part was the look on a few of my gamer buddies faces when they realised the amount of ruins in the terrain collection doubled in a week.
They'll all look better with paint, but I still have some floor tiles and window details I want to add first.
EyeamRai wrote:Very cool! Is that foam core board?
Yes. After ages of only using the good stuff, I've found the cheap dollar store kind is easier to cut and engrave.
GrimDork wrote:Sweet. Gotta love landing pads. And necrons... I guess?
Trying to build a table full of Necron Terrain choices. Things like objective markers, bunkers, landing pads, etc.. have rules and uses beyond just blocking line of sight, so I'm trying to incorporate as many of them as possible. I have a concept for a Necron Bunker, that will use the wall of Martyrs Bunker rules, I'm still working on as well.
GrimDork wrote:Shouldn't it technically be called a bakery though, y'know, with the shape of the aircraft and all?
If I make one that is shaped like an easy bake over, that flying crossiants fly out of, I'll totaly name it that
Unrelated, I now have 9 Canoptek Spyders assembled, and ran 6 of them last night. I have been gimping myself for at least the past month because I wasn't familiar with the SMASH USR. Half way though a game last night, it was pointed out to me that their attacks should be AP2. Previously, I was letting everyone take their armor saves against them when they should have only been getting invulnerable saves. They went from Shuffling Scarab Factories to killing machines.
Grim, Grim, Grim, Grim... you mentioned something about using your Bones figures for KoW in the KoW2 thread and it got me thinking. I backed Bones 1&2 while playing D&D and Pathfinder, but when 1 arrived I was playing zombicide and starwars. When they finally arrived I took them out of the packages and pretty much put them on a shelf and forgot about them. Another few months later I bought a Bones 1 collection off of one of my gaming buddies because he wasn't doing anything with his either. You mentioned using them for KoW and I just popped over to the KS page to look at all the pretty pictures. There are soo many cool undead models in the Bones line that would fit right in to a KoW Undead army, and the best part is I already have two of each.
So yes, inbetween our normally random assortment of Ork, Necrons, Terrain, and Imperial Knights I'll probably be converting Bones, Warhammer Fantasy, Heroquest, and actual KoW models to my KoW Undead legion.
Unrelated, I cast up detailed 12 new bases for scarab swarms, 3 new bases for Canoptek Spyders, an Oversized Dalek, and a Tardis
Sweet! Looking forward to more necrony goodness and some who-stuff.
Sorry about that =/ I had the idea a while back, take all of the humanoids I'm getting with Bones2 and amass them into a unified horde differentiating by size rather than race. Goblins/kobolds/smaller or same as humans- grunts, orcs/gnolls/bigger stuff toughs, ogres/trolls/40mm based stuff brutes, then solo monsters making their own counts as units of what have you, probably orcs or the like. And there are a lot of sweet undead to add too, especially in one of the upgrades for Bones2 there's a trio of barrow wights that are perfect for the Wight Kings unit (of 3 models )
KoW is pretty counts as friendly. That's a pretty good idea for the humanoids.
I like the KoW Orc forces, but I don't really want to spend the money to buy fantasy orcs, although the Wargames factory Orcs have tempted me since they can be had 25 models for $17.
I do have a ton of fantasy humanoids. That mixed horde idea sounds really promising.
If you can quell the animosity between the various tribes/gangs/factions it makes sense too. Smaller more agile creatures like goblins and kobolds scouting for orcs and ogres and giants and such. A well-behaved mixed unit would likely have more versatility on the field. Plus for the painter and modeler it's way more fun to paint up a bunch of different models and then just glue them to the regiment base, instead of 20 orcs At least for this hobbyist!
The main thing I'm trying to work out is how to get them to temporarily settle onto the multibases while retaining the ability to remove them for use in games of D&D or skirmish wargames. Bluetack probably won't work with the way I wanna do my trays (basically plaster painted up, it's probably liable to chip away with the blue tak eventually). Hotglue is fine for permanent regiments but I haven't come up with a good temporary method. Magnets but they won't wanna sit in the relatively fragile plaster either. Once I figure it out I'm gonna have a blast painting through Bones though
Use the cheap sheet metal meant for rain gutters as the base of your movement tray and cheap magentic sheet/strips on the base of your models.
How are you making movement trays out of plaster ? I've seen a lot of methods for making movement trays for Warhammer Fantasy, but I don't think I've heard of anyone using plaster before.
I may be misusing a term. It's whatever they sell at hobby lobby, lightweight hydrocal or whatever, seems a lot like a caulk or plaster type of thing, powdery mix it with water and slop it around. Seems similar to the plaster cloth so that's what I've been calling it. I just took a couple of thin pieces of cardboard and put a little bit of texture on them with hot glue, covered that with the plaster cloth, then smoothed that over with the hydrocal. So the base isn't so much made of the material as it is covered in it.
Having done a lot of casting over the years, casting a movement tray in a Hydrocoral based plaster didn't sound out of the question to me.
The bases I'm using for my Necron Scarab Farm are all cast in dental plaster. It has something ridiculous like a 10,000 PSI strength when hardened and was like $30 for 20lbs on Ebay, shipping included.
Actually, it would probably make for casting decent movement trays, if I glued some felt, or craft foam, to the bottom. Just throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks, since I'm probably going to have to come up with a method for making ovement trays for KoW,
Huh yeah I should look into some of that stuff then. The hydrocal at hobby lobby isn't very economical even with the coupon. I think you can get this awesome plaster cloth stuff as intended for use in making casts, in a much larger and bulk discounted size, but I haven't looked into calling any hospitals or medial suppliers just yet, the one sheet is lasting me pretty well.
Once my little bases are done I'm gonna paint and flock/grass/rock/bush them and paint anything that stuff doesn't cover. They'll be in the blog shortly, they're small and easy to work on in short bursts. I'll probably even throw some skaven on there for fun.
The cardboard got warped a little bit from the plaster cloth, bowed a little, but honestly it just makes the bases look a little more organic to me.
I look forward to seeing your movement trays then.
As soon as I figure out what I'm going to do I'll update here as well.
Speaking of which... I have a tons of thin plastic sheeting I was saving that turned out to be to thin for vacuum forming, and lots of GW sprue material. Both are easy to cut and respong well to model glue. I'll have to tray that tonight when I get home.
Remember now that we're talking about me here Self-depreciating humor aside, I think they'll be serviceable but mostly that.
Are you talking about thin 'plasticard' with GW sprues for the sides? It works pretty well though depending on what you surface it with you may see some warping, the plastic isn't stout enough to keep from being bent when the stuff on top cures. Well, it was like that for my plaster tray. If you just wanna make a bare minimum tray instead of buying the plastic ones off the rack.. then that system will probably work out very well.
GrimDork wrote: Are you talking about thin 'plasticard' with GW sprues for the sides?
Yes.
Ended up with 100+ sheets of 1mm styrene sheet 5-6" square scrap material from work. Even if I had to glue 2 sheets together to make them sturdy enough, I have enough to spare.
Been collecting movement trays from over the years playing Warhammer Fantasy, but they don't all match. Every time I started a new army I bought or made new trays to go with it and now have a hodge podge collection of mismatched trays.
Having matching trays for an entire army just looks better, so I'm back to square one with KoW.
Ahh yeah. If you're good at cutting the corners to fit together (or you can just use putty to fill in the gaps!) you should be able to crank out some pretty standardized trays.
I have a kooky idea for a making a trim piece that is nothing but a line of skulls, and then casting as many as I need for the trim on all the movement trays. It would be super theme appropriate for undead, or any Evil army I guess.
GrimDork wrote: If you manage it post up a how-to, I might be interested myself
We could take the cheap and easy way out and just use a low temp hot glue gun to make "fire". They would all be unique that way and could skip the whole messy mosld making and casting steps.
Black Friday Sales start and I do what I always end up doing, buying crap for myself.
There is a Mantic Skeleton in there for scale.
These Egyptian Undead are from the doomed Arcane Legions line. Arcane Legions could have been great, but the sculpting is wildly inconsistant, and the figures are close to a 25mm true scale. The game bombed, and packs sit on the shelf becuase the figures are ugly and not in scale with other existing games. For some strange reason, these undead are larger than their living comrades.
They are just a bit tiny for KoW, but they don't look too bad ranked up beside each other.
40 Figures in a pack, 15 are undead, 7 swordsman and 8 spearmen.
MiniatureMarket has them on sale for $4 a pack. I just bought 10 packs, giving me 77 undead spearmen, and 88 undead swordsmen.
Next up are Confrontation Wolfen. Big old werewolves on 40mm bases. 25 figures, 20+ unique sculpts. I already had a set, but I just picked up two more sets from Miniatures Market, for $25 a set.
I can field 3500+ points of Werewolves alone in KoW.
Hah. Awesome. I considered some of that stuff but I managed to resist it for another year. Pretty massive undead horde counting the skelies and wolves.
GrimDork wrote:Hah. Awesome. I considered some of that stuff but I managed to resist it for another year. Pretty massive undead horde counting the skelies and wolves.
I bought a pack of the Wolfen last week and it cost me $42 and I still thought it was a good deal. When I saw them for $25 I just jumped on it, without a second thought. Probably should have checked their point values first... In any case, they are pretty big, like demon prince big I'm thinking, so a few of them might get converted. At a $1 for large model conversion fodder, I'm not complaining.
The Arcane Legion figures are 40 for $4. Unfortunately most of the figures that weren't undead look like crap or are too tiny. Still, 15 Egyptian themed undead for $4 seemed like the cheapest alternative for some skeleton/revenent figures I'm going to find.
Upon reflection, I probably should have just spent $70 to buy another Undead Army set, instead of $40 on proxie figures.
Gregga wrote:Noticing a lot of Witch Hazel bottles in there? Are you a tattooist by any chance?
Also, some really quality stuff in there. The scales look extremely well done and I really like the Stompa!
Thanks !!
Not a tattooist. Just went through a phase of using witch hazel as a daily facial cleanser.
Played 1500 points of Necrons last night against Adepta Sororitas for the first time. After regularly battling Space Marines, Chaos Marines, Dark Angels Death Wing, and Demons it felt refreshingly easy. Sisters have all the right weapons to crush scarabs, but only being WS3 and T3 allowed the scarabs to hit and wound more often than ever have previously.
I'm a competent player, and my list is solid, but I don't think it's terribly competitive. My greatest asset is that I have gotten into the heads of regular opponents and scarabs illicit irrational levels of fear of loathing at this point. The meta is shifing toward them including more flamers to cope with the scarabs.
That's fine by me. I'm going to give it another couple of weeks and then start fielding Imperial Knights for a bit.
Blood Angels codex is on the way, and I managed to pre-order 2 sets of Shield Of Baal Deathstorm, so lots of Blood Angels and Tyranids to play with.
Anyone have a hardcover Tyranid codex their not using ? I have spare Eldar and Tau Empire Codexes I could trade ?
That set looks really solid, 125 for models including carnifex, neat brood lord, other useful bug units, and then terminators, jump troops, and didn't the BA get somethin.. yeah yeah a fugging badass dread too. Sounds like a good box, is it LE limited quantity?
They keep saying everywhere that it is extremely limited, but it being released on Black Friday and people having access to the mini rulebooks for months now, seems to hurt their sales. They are still in stock on the GW US, and UK, websites, or at least they were at noon time.
I haven't really bought Tyranids since 3rd Edition, so the Brood Lord and Bigger Carnifex will be new models to my collection. Needed the mini rulebook too. Had 2 copies of it, but they ended up going to my gaming buddies. Wanted the Plastic furioso as well. I have a half dozen Blood Angel Dreadnaughts, but they are all the old metal models.
I bought a nice badger Air brush and Compressor a decade ago, and they've been sitting in the box this whole time. Just really afraid to destroy while teaching myself how to use it. Just bought a air brush for $14 on Ebay that I'm definitely going to put to use. It costs about a 1/10th of what I payed for my other airbrush.
Great Blog! I prefer cheap scratch build myself. You get very nice results from your foam core and cardboard stuff, I must say. I also approve the rearing up scarabs.
GrimDork wrote:Well that's kind of what I figured you were going for but taking half a dozen dreads is a thing too
I have a dozen of them to. Probably should use them. Mostly just waiting to see if I should paint them red or not.
kestral wrote:Great Blog! I prefer cheap scratch build myself. You get very nice results from your foam core and cardboard stuff, I must say. I also approve the rearing up scarabs.
Thank you.
I wanted to go very shooty with my Necrons, but the local meta is assault heavy. Scarabs were what kept my Necrons going, so it just made sense to expand on their use. With Spyders they got exponentially better, so I added more Spyders. Now, I build my army around them.
This week I may use a bunker with an escape hatch. Nothing says loving like Scarabs moving 24" across the board in turn 1.
I have to doulbe check if the tactic is legal with scarabs. Earilier in the year I was using a bunker with escape hatch to move slugga/choppa boyz across the table. Unit has to be 10 models or less and be capable of entering the bunker, so no jet pack, bikes, etc...
KoW progress. I've spent hours this week digging through boxes of ancient miniatures. Warhammer, D&D metal, D&D Plastic, Mageknight, Reaper Bones, etc.. I had more stuff than I remembered. With some signicant time spent rebasing models I am confident I could field Dwarf, Elf, Orc, Ogre, Undead, and Abyssal forces. In the 7-8 months, before KoW2 lands I plan to build and base 4 armies, so I have forces to demo the game to group with.
40K Progress. Built 3 more scarab bases and started 3 Drop pods. The drop pods are technically simple, but there are a ton of parts to draw out, cut out, and assemble. I'll document the DropPod build once I start cutting parts out.
Had an idea while laying out the Drop Pod parts on how to make a new and improved Aegis Defense Line.
Digital progress. Have printable templates in the works that I will share, once they are done and I post the build for, SciFi Defensive Wall, Aegis Defense Line, Necron Landing Pad, Shooting to be able to release one a week in 2015. Was working on objective markers to print out on shrinky dink material, but I kind of lost steam on that project. Was thinking about markers for KoW
Terrain Progress. Built a large mechanics workshop and scifi Defense walls this week.
I really should spend more time on my armies, but now the weekly game night is 8 players playing on my tables and terrain, giving me instant feedback on the utility of new terrain pieces and how cohesively they fit into the collection.
As soon as the new airbrush shows up I'm going to put it to use painting up the new terrain.
Huh, as it's just a wall, I don't think they *have* to be 3" high. They won't have connection points to attach to walkways, for instance. 2 is enough to hide almost any normal models head, and potentially reveal extra vertically-dramatic models and monsters, which seems like a decent place.
Yeah, if you could knock together some 3x2 versions of the same sort of design then that would be awesome! No worries if you don't have the time, though.
Looking forward to what you do with them. If this guy is still around when warpath does it's thing, and if those tanks aren't up to snuff, this is where my corporation marines will be sourcing their tanks.
Paradigm wrote: Yeah, those are awesome! If you haven't seen it, there's an unboxing of one in my blog so you can see what you're getting.
I saw them about a month ago, but it was your unboxing that pushed me over the edge of ordering them.
I'm thinking about throwing Whirlwind Turrets on them, so I can free up Rhinos, and maybe as Chimeras
GrimDork wrote: Looking forward to what you do with them. If this guy is still around when warpath does it's thing, and if those tanks aren't up to snuff, this is where my corporation marines will be sourcing their tanks.
Until Mantic makes there own, these will be pretty sweet for Corporation tanks.
I have something similar to the large-cupped dual action top feed on the left, it'll do for basecoats and stuff. You will likely become desirous of a better gun eventually. The one on the right I couldn't even get to work properly. Gun in the center is probably ok too, but you'll never ever need that much paint. Even basecoating an army the gun on the left will suffice, I hate to fill the paint cup very high anyway just incase you get a clog it sucks to dump out good paint to try to fix it.
What are specs on the compressor? It has a tank which is better, in my opinion, than those that just run all the time, but how big is tank? I have a 6 gallon pancake which means I generally don't need to refill it very often (or at all) during a session. It's not such a big deal though if you don't have to be quiet while you're working. The stand is nice too.
You may want to shop for a compatible quick-disconnect, makes removing your brush from the hose for cleaning and storage easier, but it's far from necessary.
Huh cool your compressor has a moisture trap built in, that's a nicer deal than the similar set I got a few years ago.
As long as the compressor doesn't overheat often and shut down, I'll say you should be GtG.
Also you can use most any paint, you just will need to thin thicker paints. Water works in a pinch, some people use alcohol, can also buy premixed thinners and there's also a few formulas on the interwebs. I like to stay away from the windex variety even though I almost always wear a mask when I paint.
the grot tank is sweet. Needs a mini Oscar (really furry grot )the grot to drive it.
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