@chikout I heard when the news of new WD came out it would be hobby looking back on the month before, so it won't be much into what's ahead. But we'll see very soon

It may be both. Given the advance notice we're getting of releases, it might be a "two weeks forward, two weeks back" sort of affair.

Once I saw the first issue's cover provides extra rules for most of the board games I have on my shelf, I pulled the trigger and subscribed. May wind up regretting it but I've got my fingers crossed.

 Azreal13 wrote:
It may be both. Given the advance notice we're getting of releases, it might be a "two weeks forward, two weeks back" sort of affair.

This would actually be a nice balance I think. It gives the magazine something unseen to promote in the news section, and let's them do interviews for the older stuff.

 privateer4hire wrote:
Once I saw the first issue's cover provides extra rules for most of the board games I have on my shelf, I pulled the trigger and subscribed. May wind up regretting it but I've got my fingers crossed.

Me too.

If nothing else I'll have a few models to paint or sell on Ebay.

Mez

Isn't WD supposed to come out Septermber 2nd? I have a copy reserved at a newsagent and a subscription, but I don't want to miss out on the reserved copy because of an early release!

Really happy to hear several FLGS are limiting this WD to one issue per customer.
We had folk buying 12 of the previous one to get units, and fething over everyone who wanted the regular release.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Really happy to hear several FLGS are limiting this WD to one issue per customer.
We had folk buying 12 of the previous one to get units, and fething over everyone who wanted the regular release.

My store simply asked people who wanted more than one to pre-order it. I don't think there is a constraint to the number of copies they could order, but I think they placed the order quite a long time ago.

I'm pumped!

 Paintalist wrote:
This posted my local GW minutes ago

It's a drawn cover, my happiness is complete. I would happily hug the person who made this beautiful wonderful decision. Who ever you are, if you are listening I LOVE YOU!!!

How do you subscribe to new WD then?

I can't find the details anywhere.

 notprop wrote:
How do you subscribe to new WD then?

I can't find the details anywhere.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NL/White-Dwarf-12-month-sub-ENG

or for uk:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Books-Digital?N=102300+4294966547&Nu=product.repositoryId&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=cat440138a-flat

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

Yeah, the art on old WD's was from other sources/books/box cover art. Occasionally some art that was going to appear somewhere else debuted on a cover of WD, but it's not like they were commissioning new pieces each month.

Just a quick note - if you did the sub offer in the UK, check your bank account, I just noticed that they inexplicably took and then refunded the direct debit for mine on Thursday.

Not that fussed myself given the AoS-heavy slant of the first issue, but if you were actually looking forward to yours you might want to double check it worked right.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
But no change to weekly releases?

Weekly releases but monthly description.

 Bottle wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

The product information states it's just a place holder cover and not the cover for September 2016.

 notprop wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

The product information states it's just a place holder cover and not the cover for September 2016.

Well, this doesn't sound like its going to end well...

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

The product information states it's just a place holder cover and not the cover for September 2016.

Well, this doesn't sound like its going to end well...

I can't see that anywhere. Plus they posted that cover on Facebook saying 'here it is, the cover of the new format White Dwarf...'

Plus there's actual pictures of the French version in the wild.

 notprop wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

The product information states it's just a place holder cover and not the cover for September 2016.

If I remember correctly, that was a proviso added to the new monthly WD sub page when the sample cover shown was a photo that had previously graced a weekly WD cover (Tau Riptide or something).

 Yodhrin wrote:
Just a quick note - if you did the sub offer in the UK, check your bank account, I just noticed that they inexplicably took and then refunded the direct debit for mine on Thursday.

Not that fussed myself given the AoS-heavy slant of the first issue, but if you were actually looking forward to yours you might want to double check it worked right.

Nothing's gone through yet . But I haven't received a letter saying the dd has gone through.

My DD has gone through fine.

Ditto.

as it should be.

alphaecho wrote:

 notprop wrote:

 Bottle wrote:

 Bolognesus wrote:

 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!

TBF this is just the recycled Gorechosen box art. It's not as if they actually commissioned a piece specifically for this cover, so it might just be a one time thing.

The old white dwarfs had art from elsewhere too.

The product information states it's just a place holder cover and not the cover for September 2016.

If I remember correctly, that was a proviso added to the new monthly WD sub page when the sample cover shown was a photo that had previously graced a weekly WD cover (Tau Riptide or something).

Yeah. The Tau cover had a statement that it wasn't the actual cover for September.

Can't wait for this to turn up, haven't bought a white dwarf for years now but hoping this new version takes me back to the old 90's, early 2000's white dwarfs.
Might be asking a bit much but we'll soon see. Plus a free mini to boot is always good. Sure beats another marine.

Scanner on the Spikeybits forum - the new Betrayal at Calth content from WD

http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?34131-new-gw-for-summer-2016&p=245139&viewfull=1#post245139

I hope it wasnt posted already


The first page of the article gives an overview

http://forum.spikeybits.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7303&stc=1

Yeah,
Very much looking forward to new rules for
Lost patrol and Assassinorum. (Links in Signature)
I've painted these games up but found their gaming life span lacking.

Lost patrols has all the building blocks of an amazing game; but it's rules are funny bad..
It needs saving.


Assassinorum is an amazing game but with only one level!


Any info yet on these two games?

Does anyone know if Uncancelled Visions Subscriptions carried over?

Panic...

 Panic wrote:
Yeah,
Very much looking forward to new rules for
Lost patrol and Assassinorum. (Links in Signature)
I've painted these games up but found their gaming life span lacking.

Lost patrols has all the building blocks of an amazing game; but it's rules are funny bad..
It needs saving.


Assassinorum is an amazing game but with only one level!


Any info yet on these two games?

Does anyone know if Uncancelled Visions Subscriptions carried over?

Panic...

Mine did. I received a letter explaining what was going to happen. If you didn't, it might be worth calling.

I don't think I've ever been this excited for a magazine to arrive. Not only do I get a free mini for my newest army, but I'm excited to know what they're doing with the new Overkill and Silver Tower rules!

 EnTyme wrote:
I don't think I've ever been this excited for a magazine to arrive. Not only do I get a free mini for my newest army, but I'm excited to know what they're doing with the new Overkill and Silver Tower rules!

Here here!
Maybe worth subscribing again. Not sure how many copies will be made and due to the free mini I've made sure to pre-order from local store.

There is a lot of content - Beardyhammer posted photos

http://www.ozdestro.com/blog/breaking-white-dwarf-monthly-full-interior-reveal

I like it! Much better, GW!

I can't wait!

I'm excited for the content, and while I disagree with their statement of "best cover mount ever" for an AOS model, that's just because I don't play AOS, and there's still appeal to the model for me. I'll have to get creative about using it though, I don't play anything Khorne in 40k and I'm not sure what else I could do. It's a larger model than standard marines, right?

Reading in it for a while, this is a huge improvement and finally back to form.

There are more Marines for use with Deathwatch Overkill. I really hope they have more adversaries to choose from besides Tyranids.

I will use mine as a Dark Apostle for the Khorne part of my CSM army. If you remove the pole sticking out of his back you can glue a backpack on and stick the cut off parts onto the backpack. It is just a minor conversion, add some grenades and a pistol to the belt and he's done. It's a huge model, should be as big as the finecast Dark Apostle. The backpacks from the Possessed kit fit well on naked bodies and I have used them for several AoS/WFB to 40k conversions.

Looks like a load of content there, nice to see old features like Blanchitsu and Parade Ground making a return, and I'm excited to get a look at Illuminations (the art feature), similar articles in the old WDs were always good.

It's nice to see the boxed games receive some love. In the olden times, WD often did similar things in the form of scenarios and campaigns for Warhammer Quest, Space Hulk and the like. Back then they also ran cardboard tiles in the magazine a lot, or cut-out-and-stick-on-cardboard-yourself ones in even earlier issues.

Doesn't look half bad.

Hmm, Grombrindel must have a Slayer twin brother who loves to leap in the same pose off of the same Dwarfin (dwarfish?) ruins.... He's only $20



The slayer is still up on the webstore for a bargain $21...

Totally different Dwarfs. One is way older and wearing purple pants.

Just because you cherry picked an image from the Old World's final synchronized Rune leaping event doesn't make them twin brothers.

 Eldarain wrote:
Totally different Dwarfs. One is way older and wearing purple pants.

Just because you cherry picked an image from the Old World's final synchronized Rune leaping event doesn't make them twin brothers.

Dude, the Craghammer Brothers totally got robbed of the gold in that competition. How do you give a 7.4 for that perfectly-executed synchronized Double Leg-Over? That's what you get when you let a Sylvanian judge the contest!

 Paradigm wrote:
Looks like a load of content there, nice to see old features like Blanchitsu and Parade Ground making a return, and I'm excited to get a look at Illuminations (the art feature), similar articles in the old WDs were always good.

The current WD team must be confident in the new content if they're going to be brave enough to look back at 90s issues in the magazine.

 Panic wrote:

Lost patrols has all the building blocks of an amazing game; but it's rules are funny bad..
Panic...

If you look around online you'll be able to find the original rules (which are superior), as well as free "expansion" rules that Jake published on his blog.

Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Not enough LOTR content ?

 Azazelx wrote:

 Panic wrote:

Lost patrols has all the building blocks of an amazing game; but it's rules are funny bad..
Panic...

If you look around online you'll be able to find the original rules (which are superior), as well as free "expansion" rules that Jake published on his blog.

What's the difference from the new rules?

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Is that first part a mistake? It's honestly the one thing I never expected to read in a post about white dwarf, ever!

 adamsouza wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Not enough LOTR content ?

i'll get it just for the Blanchitsu segment
they are my favorite bit of Visions...

come on Friday!!!

cheers
jah

Joyboozer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Is that first part a mistake? It's honestly the one thing I never expected to read in a post about white dwarf, ever!

Lots of articles mistake? Content had quite a many titles didn't it? But pretty much all AOS garbage or to board games I don't have. Deathwatch review isn't enough to save me. Looks at new products was never what got me to buy WD anyway as it's just "buy this new awzum product!" articles. All they could say I have generally read before already...

What I want is new HOBBY material for games I play. Didn't see any of that. Ergo skip it.

Well, my first issue has just arrived this morning.

I preordered a years sub for £50, so I guess they are sending out early for subs which is nice.

Haven't had chance to look at it yet though.

tneva82 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Is that first part a mistake? It's honestly the one thing I never expected to read in a post about white dwarf, ever!

Lots of articles mistake? Content had quite a many titles didn't it? But pretty much all AOS garbage or to board games I don't have. Deathwatch review isn't enough to save me. Looks at new products was never what got me to buy WD anyway as it's just "buy this new awzum product!" articles. All they could say I have generally read before already...

What I want is new HOBBY material for games I play. Didn't see any of that. Ergo skip it.

While I'm sorry you feel that way, please do not turn this thread into an AoS-bashing fest. I'm sure there will be plenty of material in the future issues for you to go at.

NoggintheNog wrote:
Well, my first issue has just arrived this morning.

I preordered a years sub for £50, so I guess they are sending out early for subs which is nice.

Haven't had chance to look at it yet though.

That's a welcome return. I hated when the subscribers got it 3 days after everyone else, when all of the cool new releases were already sold out.

I'm still sorely tempted by that mini.If anyone want the magazine but not the mini, PM me

tneva82 wrote:

Joyboozer wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Is that first part a mistake? It's honestly the one thing I never expected to read in a post about white dwarf, ever!

Lots of articles mistake? Content had quite a many titles didn't it? But pretty much all AOS garbage or to board games I don't have. Deathwatch review isn't enough to save me. Looks at new products was never what got me to buy WD anyway as it's just "buy this new awzum product!" articles. All they could say I have generally read before already...

What I want is new HOBBY material for games I play. Didn't see any of that. Ergo skip it.

Better AoS than "Space Marines, guest staring a random nod to xenos players". This is a magazine for a company that makes more than one game.

I for one am excited to grab a copy. Free model is cool too.

Mine's just arrived too, and at a glance I'm impressed. Seems there's a lot of content jammed in there, the production quality is definitely up to scratch (good quality paper, well-printed ect). Once I've given it a proper read I'll put together a more comprehensive review, but as a first impression, it reminds me very much of the last iteration before the Weekly, but polished up a bit.

What stuff is in there for Space Hulk and nuQuest?

 DeffDred wrote:
Better AoS than "Space Marines, guest staring a random nod to xenos players". This is a magazine for a company that makes more than one game.

Funny that you say it makes more than one game when new magazine seems to have forgotten half the miniature games they release...

That's my frigging point. They have 2 miniature games. Yet WD is all over one of them with very little for the other.

Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

Space Hulk has a new mission in which the BA must scupper a ship and recover data from a CAT, also with rules for the Stealers moving across/hiding in ventilation shafts which can be added to any mission.

Quest gets Grombrindal and Slaughterpriest rules.

And for the sake of completeness, the other box game features are:

- New Deathwatch profiles for DWOK
- Alternative force setups for the BaC missions
- Terminators in Lost Patrol
- Demons in Assassinorium
- Skarr and Valkia in Gorechosen
- Corvus Blackstar in Stormcloud Attack

tneva82 wrote:
Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

You're acting like you've never read an imbalanced WD before. It happened all the time back in the day. Just don't buy the issues that don't interest you. It is not a big deal, and certainly not worth complaining about.

Hopefully mine comes today as well then.

tneva82 wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
Better AoS than "Space Marines, guest staring a random nod to xenos players". This is a magazine for a company that makes more than one game.

Funny that you say it makes more than one game when new magazine seems to have forgotten half the miniature games they release...

That's my frigging point. They have 2 miniature games. Yet WD is all over one of them with very little for the other.

Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

They also happen to have released a significant amount of board games in the last year and a half, and every single one of them has content in the new issue. Pretty sure that means they have something other than being all over one and not the other, but I might be wrong

 Paradigm wrote:
Space Hulk has a new mission in which the BA must scupper a ship and recover data from a CAT, also with rules for the Stealers moving across/hiding in ventilation shafts which can be added to any mission.

Quest gets Grombrindal and Slaughterpriest rules.

And for the sake of completeness, the other box game features are:

- New Deathwatch profiles for DWOK
- Alternative force setups for the BaC missions
- Terminators in Lost Patrol
- Demons in Assassinorium
- Skarr and Valkia in Gorechosen
- Corvus Blackstar in Stormcloud Attack

I hope this stuff makes it into compendium packs at some point. I like the sound of most of that, but don't currently play any of those games (I'll buy them all when minime is old enough to get into gaming).

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

You're acting like you've never read an imbalanced WD before. It happened all the time back in the day. Just don't buy the issues that don't interest you. It is not a big deal, and certainly not worth complaining about.

Too be fair to the guy, that's all he has said he's going to do, he's seen the contents of issue one and decided to skip it. Fair enough really isn't it?

I think it's the incessant bleating that's the issue.
Looking forward to this Friday, will be picking up my copy!

My copy arrived this morning. It's fine. I'm neither impressed nor underwhelmed. I was hoping to be wowed, but wasn't.

Same here, got mine today. Good quality paper, though some of the photos seem a bit dark. Plenty of content in terms of games covered, though nothing in depth - just one or two pages for most of them. Another example, the Tale of 4 gamers thing, each guy has one page with 2 or 3 paragraphs of large letter text plus a photo. I don't expect a Shakespearean effort, but it seems "light". Still, got the free mini, which was the main reason for getting it, hope you enjoy your copy.

Well, I guess, if nothing else, I can offload the Slaughter Priest on eBay and make a few bucks. I was hoping for more to do with Deathwatch Overkill than just four marine profiles. That is a shame.

 Huginn wrote:

Plenty of content in terms of games covered, though nothing in depth

I think that sums it up perfectly. They have tried to make it look like the golden age of the mag, but without the depth of content to deliver the quality that made it what it was. It feels like a bigger version of the weekly mag still. Hopefully that will change once they get into it and the new editor is settled in place.

 General Kroll wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

You're acting like you've never read an imbalanced WD before. It happened all the time back in the day. Just don't buy the issues that don't interest you. It is not a big deal, and certainly not worth complaining about.

Too be fair to the guy, that's all he has said he's going to do, he's seen the contents of issue one and decided to skip it. Fair enough really isn't it?

He's said a lot more. He hasn't abated from the endless and rather childish bitching and AoS-bashing for over a month in this thread, including about how the free miniature offends him because it's "useless' (apparently he lacks the creative means to glue a backpack and pistol onto it - or he's trolling - and badly) and why it's a bad thing that he can't even make a profit from the freebie cover mount(!) If it was that one post it'd be a different story. Click "filter thread" under his name for context.

Just got my copy. It's HEAVY. It's a nice non-glossy stock that makes the photography pop, especially on the gatefold of the huge triple-Titan Eldar army. And the photography is bloody lovely.

All-in-all, it's pretty much monthly White Dwarf and as I expected, with the main change from days of yore that 'hobby content' is limited to conversions and painting guides, vs 'make Ork huts from Pringles tubes'. Will be interesting to see how that content does or does not develop.

There's lots of 40K material, so ignore the ALL AOS cries. But ultimately it's a pretty mag to try and get you to buy Gee Dubs toys, so if that puts you off don't buy.

Free dude looks nice. Will have fun 40K-ifying him, or maybe making him a Necromunda leader.

All in all, happy with issue 1, lots left to read. YMMV.




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Oh, and Space Hulk content is rules for air ducts... guess they're saving or not doing the obvious Hybrids/Psykers supplement...

Complaining about "too many articles" is the new "too many advertisements" ?

I play zero GW games outside of 40K and Blood Bowl, and I'm still excited about the content of this issue, because, simply put, it is content.

The tale of 4 Warlords I take it is about 4 guys building their collections, but what game ?

Still waiting for my subscription to arrive.

Tale of 4 warlords is Age of Sigmar.

I'm really pleased with mine, everything I wanted really, loads of content, and even the things I'm not interested in were worth a read (the Imperial Knight stuff)

Free mini is a bonus, not a chaos player but will be cool to paint.

WD is back!

Just got home to find my copy on the door mat, had a flick through it quickly, looks good so far will wait till the little terrors are in bed to sit down and have a good look.

I'm very excited to get mine after seeing the TOC posted. I think my last issue of WD was the first issue after the switched off the big square spines. I saw the email about bringing back a proper format and the free mini, and it was enough to sucker me in. Free model looks like a good time, too!

Anything that makes Gorechosen seem like a decent experience instead of just saving money on some Khorne dudes? Gameplay examples or a rules preview?

And does anyone know about the German launch date, website says 2.9., but subscriptions are supposedly delivered later rather than earlier? I'm itching to buy a second copy to give to my nephews (and pocketing the mini ), but I'd have to know the release date for sure, the news vendor won't reserve it more than a day.

adamsouza wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Lots of article, nothing there to interest me. First issue is definite pass then.

Not enough LOTR content ?

Don't you mean The Hobbit?

My brother got his this morning and having a flick through it I have to admit it looks fairly decent.

A lot of content, while it seems to be word light and a lot of it isn't exactly stuff I'm massively interested in, as someone said in an earlier post, at least it is content. I do think they would be better having fewer articles of greater length, the articles I feel would be more useful that way. The pictures are good quality as well. It's good to see the battle report back, I would have preferred a 40k one to start with, but that's just a matter of personal preference with me not being a fan of Age of Sigmar.

All in all, it's a solid start. Let's hope it gets better as they settle into the monthly format again.

tneva82 wrote:

 DeffDred wrote:
Better AoS than "Space Marines, guest staring a random nod to xenos players". This is a magazine for a company that makes more than one game.

Funny that you say it makes more than one game when new magazine seems to have forgotten half the miniature games they release...

That's my frigging point. They have 2 miniature games. Yet WD is all over one of them with very little for the other.

Balance too much to ask for? Seems so.

Excuse me? Two miniature games?

Got my copy today. The range of content is good but the articles are a little light and I hope for future editions they have more detail.

 durecellrabbit wrote:
Got my copy today. The range of content is good but the articles are a little light and I hope for future editions they have more detail.

I think with this first issue, it's just a case of throwing some stuff out there and seeing what works. I imagine early on we'll get lots of short, light articles until they can see what goes down well and what people don't like so much (they're actively asking for feedback on the letters page, I believe), then they'll start expanding what's popular.

So it's $9 at cover price, right? Is this worth picking up?

 jreilly89 wrote:
So it's $9 at cover price, right? Is this worth picking up?

If you're interested in either the content or the model? Absolutely. If not, then no.

decker_cky wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
So it's $9 at cover price, right? Is this worth picking up?

If you're interested in either the content or the model? Absolutely. If not, then no.

What model? And definitely in the content, I find it a fun read

 jreilly89 wrote:

decker_cky wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
So it's $9 at cover price, right? Is this worth picking up?

If you're interested in either the content or the model? Absolutely. If not, then no.

What model? And definitely in the content, I find it a fun read

Free Slaughterpriest with Hack-Blade with the first issue.

To be fair, regarding a slightly heavier nod to AoS in the new White Dwarf, the mag is basically a big catalog promoting their products...with a few articles to make it look like they are at least trying to give you some usable content for your $9 US. AoS isn't selling nearly as well as 40k, from what I understand...so trying to drum up more sales for AoS makes a lot of sense.

While it doesn't quite hark back to the days of Fat Dwarf, it's certainly better than it's been for a long time and has some solid content which is, as has been commented on perhaps a little light. The important thing for me though, is that it is content. Take the AoS stuff for example. I've never played a game of AoS but I'll still read the battle report and the Tale of four Warlords article because I always liked the battle reports and loved seeing how other people collected their armies.

I also think that they might be taking a throw everything at it and see what sticks approach for a couple of Months, which I think somebody mentioned earlier. This is something that I don't think is neccessarily a bad thing if it's the case, particularly if they keep up with the letters page, as it indicates that they might actually be starting to listen to people.

I realise that this is GW I'm talking about but I'm feeling kinda charitable, given the decent start they've made with it.

In my mind, $9 was more than fair for either the mag of this size OR the mini, so getting both is a nice bonus.

Flicking through mine and it looks fantastic so far. As a fan of both AoS and 40k (although not an active 40k player) there is lots of content in this for me. The extra board game rules are especially good. For DW:O you get an entire new team to add to the game (fluff wise the first team that got wiped out) - which you can build from the new DW sets. Looks like a very fun project to do once I finish my DW:O.

 Starscream1138 wrote:
Take the AoS stuff for example. I've never played a game of AoS but I'll still read the battle report and the Tale of four Warlords article because I always liked the battle reports and loved seeing how other people collected their armies.

This is the big thing for me as well, I always read every page of the old WD (except maybe the LotR stuff, just to see what else was out there, and for the great pictures of minis. I haven't followed GW stuff in years, so I'm expecting this to be a nice catch-up just to see what the current state of things is. The Imperial Knight bit is appreciated as well, because I'm grabbing a copy of IK: Renegade on Friday when I pick up my WD. I don't see myself ever getting back into proper army building tabletop gaming, but I love the idea of the self-contained boxed games, so if this sells me on a few of those, then it's done its job.

The fact that a visible WD team is back is a big plus for me too. I was never terribly keen on the anonymous feel of the magazine when they did away with it. I alway thought it felt a little impersonal.

The magazine gets a massive thumbs up from me. Highlights:

- Temporal Distort, a retro review of an old White Dwarf. It's like a Kid Kyoto review.

- The boardgame rules. I only have DW:O but they've given me another 6 characters to play with. Awesome!

- The letters. One is an angry letter about points being added back in to AoS and one is calling for 40k to be streamlined like AoS and LOTR... Wow, they don't shy away!

- Blanchitsu! Yeah it's back! Even if we've already seen it all on Ironsleet

Well, that's all I have had time to read so far. The battle report and tale of generals looks amazing. If you play BaC it looks like they give you six extra missions !?!?

I like what I'm hearing.

Am I the only subscriber who didn't get their copy today?!

Wow, they actually feature customer feedback (letters) that isn't glowing praise of the ground GW walks on?


Times are changing...

I'd certainly recommend picking it up. Even if you aren't a fan, you'll be getting a model out of it for just shy of six quids.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Am I the only subscriber who didn't get their copy today?!

All of the posts I've seen from those who received a copy today are from the UK. North America will probably take a couple more days.

I'm in the UK.

What's the content vs. adverts ratio like?

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm in the UK.

Ah. Your profile flag shows United States. Guess you're just the only Brit GW doesn't love.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'm in the UK.

Ah. Your profile flag shows United States. Guess you're just the only Brit GW doesn't love.

My profile flag shows I'm in the US sometimes too.

 Bottle wrote:
The magazine gets a massive thumbs up from me. Highlights:

- Temporal Distort, a retro review of an old White Dwarf. It's like a Kid Kyoto review.

- The boardgame rules. I only have DW:O but they've given me another 6 characters to play with. Awesome!

- The letters. One is an angry letter about points being added back in to AoS and one is calling for 40k to be streamlined like AoS and LOTR... Wow, they don't shy away!

- Blanchitsu! Yeah it's back! Even if we've already seen it all on Ironsleet

Well, that's all I have had time to read so far. The battle report and tale of generals looks amazing. If you play BaC it looks like they give you six extra missions !?!?

Wait who is angry about points in AOS

the points was the best possible thing to have happened to aos and my group is enjoying it immensely

No magazine yet :(
Anyone mind saying what all six of the Deathwatch Overkill profiles are. I have seen the Flesh Tearers, Novamarines, Crimson Fists, and the Howling Griffons characters, what are the other two? I will definitely be building the Novamarines character (maybe the Flesh Tearers character as well).

There's five, the 5th is a White Consul.

 ImAGeek wrote:
There's five, the 5th is a White Consul.

Ok. What'should his loadout?

Was there any stuff about Silver tower?

The board game articles (first page) are shown here http://www.ozdestro.com/blog/breaking-white-dwarf-monthly-full-interior-reveal

 Bottle wrote:
- The letters. One is an angry letter about points being added back in to AoS...

Kan got published in the first new WD? That's fantastic!

Chopxsticks wrote:
Was there any stuff about Silver tower?

Just rules for the White Dwarf. Nice, but another character wasn't really a priority for Silver tower (there's tons already), whereas another mission would have been nice. Hoping they add a few more missions on the silver tower tiles, or a longer term experience system at some point.

There are two Silver Tower characters, Grombrimdal and the Slaughterpriest

http://www.ozdestro.com/uploads/1/3/0/1/13014732/img-6142_orig.jpg

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
- The letters. One is an angry letter about points being added back in to AoS...

Kan got published in the first new WD? That's fantastic!

No.

That's kantastic.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
What stuff is in there for Space Hulk and nuQuest?

Several pics from BoardGameGeek discussion threads (WHQ stuff is farther down in the linked discussion thread).

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1629722/new-mission-new-white-dwarf

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1628598/new-hero-incoming-white-dwarf

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
There's five, the 5th is a White Consul.

Ok. What'should his loadout?

My bad, 5 not 6. His load out is a power maul and the big shield.


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 Desubot wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
The magazine gets a massive thumbs up from me. Highlights:

- Temporal Distort, a retro review of an old White Dwarf. It's like a Kid Kyoto review.

- The boardgame rules. I only have DW:O but they've given me another 6 characters to play with. Awesome!

- The letters. One is an angry letter about points being added back in to AoS and one is calling for 40k to be streamlined like AoS and LOTR... Wow, they don't shy away!

- Blanchitsu! Yeah it's back! Even if we've already seen it all on Ironsleet

Well, that's all I have had time to read so far. The battle report and tale of generals looks amazing. If you play BaC it looks like they give you six extra missions !?!?

Wait who is angry about points in AOS

the points was the best possible thing to have happened to aos and my group is enjoying it immensely

IKR, it's an old-timer who preferred people fudging and eyeballing it. The response is that there's 3 ways to play so he can continue to play Open if he prefers it.

Weirdly I own the original issue of WD that came with the air vent pieces for Space Hulk. I guess it's an update to that concept.

If I can scan those rules and then print them and mount them on card (like the other 4 nuQuest expansion heroes) then I think that would make me buy the Slayer model (I refuse to call it the WD).

I was very happy with the new mag, definitely a step in the right direction. Guess you can't make everyone happy!

I had chance to sit down and read through it last night.

Overall I enjoyed it, and I am happy I took out the discount years sub, I think I'll get my money's worth from it.

As others have said, the articles are a little lacking in depth, but it is a huge step up from the picture book white dwarf had become, and there is room to improve.

I'm not an AOS player, but I enjoyed the pieces anyway, and found plenty of content for things I do play. Photography is still excellent and it feels like a quality magazine.

Its not perfect, the writers need to step up a bit, but it is an enjoyable read.

As an aside, with the bank holiday on Monday and getting the mag yesterday, it looks like they probably posted these last Friday, so on a normal month subs will get the mag close to a week before the shops do.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Weirdly I own the original issue of WD that came with the air vent pieces for Space Hulk. I guess it's an update to that concept.

Excellent - shame they didn't include some free board sections that could be scanned. Still think I've got my vents kicking about - time to break them out and put them to use!

Also, one hopes that these new rules will result in a demand for and eventual permanent re-release of Space Hulk.

Hoping this arrives today for us subscribers here in the colonies since I'll be heading out of town for NOVA tomorrow.

By out of town I mean 45 minutes away from home, but it is a different state!

GW said mine has shipped, so maybe tomorrow? Maybe Friday?

Have not seen mine yet.
Old timer WD reader. When the mag # was in the double digits
Hope its as good as I am reading on these forums.
Only thing to make it better would be if Thrud comic came back

 Bottle wrote:
- Temporal Distort, a retro review of an old White Dwarf. It's like a Kid Kyoto review.

So, fething awful jokes that make you want to shoot yourself?

I had such high hopes for this reboot.

It looks to me this is more like the old white dwarf format. I loved those old white dwarfs, as they had two pages of commercials, and all the rest were hobby related from all three game systems.

The more content they add (extra missions, datasheets, eavy metal painting tutorials, gameplay reviews, etc,), the better it will be. I had gone from years of subscriptions to only buying one or two weekly issues for their one page of content. Time for another subscription!

well mines not arrived yet but should be here tomorrow or friday..

Honestly i bought it for the freebies,

Very positive feedback so far, will definitely be picking my up a copy when it hits the shops. Who says the forums are full of negativity!

 Knockagh wrote:
Very positive feedback so far, will definitely be picking my up a copy when it hits the shops. Who says the forums are full of negativity!

actually aside from Dakka I've heard nothing but good things on my twitter and few FB groups. Looking fwd to it tomorrow. Managed to not read it via pics of pages posted already. But what to do with the Slaughterpriest model... probably a conversion for event or a scenic base for my Fyreslayers heroes.

Got mine this morning. It is still ultimately a magazine designed to encourge you to buy gw products, but they are going about it in a better way now. The photography is excellent. The mag puts people front and centre whether that is writers, designers or painters. The magazine has reclaimed a little of its soul as a result.

The magazine is big, heavy and printed on very good quality paper. It feels like a premium product.

This white dwarf is not perfect. Aside from the uniquely painted nurgle army, the 4 warlords article is not very interesting and the painting section is still too simple but it is a very promising start.

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So glad they waited until after the first issue came out to offer the combined subscription...

Just built the Slaughterpriest after reading for an hour in the magazine. Well worth the money. I think this is the first time in about three or four years a WD comes with enough content to not make you read through it in a 10 minute session and you start browsing back and forth as you start feeling you can use more than one or two articles from it as it was in the near past. Will get back to it tomorrow as I havent read the Deathwatch designer interview and the battle report yet. I am looking forward to issue #2 with its Deathwatch Battle Report (vs Tyranids) and hope it will bring a similiar amount of gaming articles (rules).

The UK edition arrived here in Germany a day before release which never happened with Visions, always being 2 weeks and more late.

I would rate it 8 out of 10 in a White Dwarf scale. It is a house magazine and it shows. 6 or 7 when compared with other tabletop magazines like the german Tabletop Insider. Which is to be fair not a monthly but a quarterly magazine. The new WD is quite a good magazine but still has areas it can significantly improve in.

I haven't got my German edition yet :(

Any idea what model is with the next issue ??

 loki old fart wrote:
Any idea what model is with the next issue ??

it is an issue of the new comic, not a model. Hopefully issue #3 comes with something good, though.

I'm on holiday at the moment, all inclusive, sunshine, beaches, no job to worry about right now, though I'm actually - in some ways - excited for the moment I get back just to have a skeg at WD.

That's probably just for the freebie though. Yorkshiremen love freebies haha.

 kitch102 wrote:
I'm on holiday at the moment, all inclusive, sunshine, beaches, no job to worry about right now, though I'm actually - in some ways - excited for the moment I get back just to have a skeg at WD.

That's probably just for the freebie though. Yorkshiremen love freebies haha.

Midwestern Americans love freebies too! I am hoping my issue arrives tomorrow or Saturday so I have something to read if/while my patients sleep.

I am probably going to sell off the Slaughterpriest either here or on eBay. No need for him.

Stentor Pranus does sound like you should be able to get a cream for it... Top Deathwatch naming, guys. ;-)

Just picked up 2 from my local WHsmith that didn't stock the weekly version so looks like it will be available from them .looked twice didn't have any on tue shelf so looked in a cart of new stock and they were buried under some womans own magazines lol

Just grabbed mine on my lunch break: looking forward to having a read. Especially the battle report (I hope it's good), always loved those. I always remember one of my favorite bat reps - Adrian Wood with his orks, against Paul Sawyer's surrounded imperial guard, who actually won the match. I can't remember now what it was called.. I remember there being a picture of Adrian going "that's my dreadnought!" and then a picture of Paul with his head in his hands going "That's his dreadnought!"

No digital edition?

 Erynor wrote:
Just grabbed mine on my lunch break: looking forward to having a read. Especially the battle report (I hope it's good), always loved those. I always remember one of my favorite bat reps - Adrian Wood with his orks, against Paul Sawyer's surrounded imperial guard, who actually won the match. I can't remember now what it was called.. I remember there being a picture of Adrian going "that's my dreadnought!" and then a picture of Paul with his head in his hands going "That's his dreadnought!"

Haha, I remember that. The Battle at Orks Drift: Praetorians V Orks. Tail end of 2nd Edition 40k...

I'm not particularly interested in this issues content but I bought it out of good will. Fantastic issue, very big.lots of useful guides etc.

The slaughter priest will be fantastic for zombicide the black plague. I hope the free model will become a semi regular occurrence, maybe once or twice a year? They could treat it as an opportunity to promote a new range, such as when a fantasy army gets updated for AOS -include a free model and possibly entice players to start collecting that new army. The old Battle Games in Middle Earth magazines were way before my time (by the time I became aware of it, it was nearing the end of its lifespan) but I know that the mini with every issue was a big part of the appeal.

My friend has just started painting so he'll have a use for the paint guides (I use Vallejo, whereas he has the entire gw paint range). He also happens to be a tau player so the tau fire warrior conversion guide at the back might be useful.

What is the guide converting Fire Warriors into ?

It's in stores already? And I still don't have my subscription copy. I thought they were supposed to send it out early to subscribers so we have it before it hits the stores?

 adamsouza wrote:
What is the guide converting Fire Warriors into ?

Nothing, its just a very simple guide on how to alter poses, etc. For a veteran its not much use but my friend is a novice hobbyist and it'll probably be useful for him (by novice I mean he's never really bothered much with painting and converting he's more of a gamer, but I've been helping him learn how to paint late!y).


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Specifically, its more of an assembly guide for the fire warriors from the tau - raven guard kill team box set.

Albino Squirrel wrote:
It's in stores already? And I still don't have my subscription copy. I thought they were supposed to send it out early to subscribers so we have it before it hits the stores?

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Also itd be from Tuesday since Monday is a holiday.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Well poop


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Also itd be from Tuesday since Monday is a holiday.

It's actually possible that it could be a Monday delivery. Some areas have dedicated drivers for doing deliveries on off-days(they're usually the ones who are doing Amazon Prime drop-offs on Sundays for example) who don't do standard mail but instead do rush deliveries/sensitive materials.

Well double crap on that!
Let the snotlings loose on them with pain givers!!!

So wait, subscribers will always get their copy before the general release from now on?

I very much doubt it,

but that is what they are hoping to do (and it should be possible to achive it a lot more frequently than they managed with the weekly version)

Yes supposedly thats how it was supposed to work. :(

 reds8n wrote:

Albino Squirrel wrote:
It's in stores already? And I still don't have my subscription copy. I thought they were supposed to send it out early to subscribers so we have it before it hits the stores?

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Obviously won't be getting it Monday, with it being a holiday.

By the end of next week??? A week after I could have gotten it in a store? Thanks, GW. Glad I took a chance on subscribing. Should have waited and bought just the first issue.

Albino Squirrel wrote:

 reds8n wrote:

Albino Squirrel wrote:
It's in stores already? And I still don't have my subscription copy. I thought they were supposed to send it out early to subscribers so we have it before it hits the stores?

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Obviously won't be getting it Monday, with it being a holiday.

By the end of next week??? A week after I could have gotten it in a store? Thanks, GW. Glad I took a chance on subscribing. Should have waited and bought just the first issue.

Don't you mean Thank You USPS?

It sounds like they were dispatched with plenty of time spare for pre-release delivery.


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 Erynor wrote:
Just grabbed mine on my lunch break: looking forward to having a read. Especially the battle report (I hope it's good), always loved those. I always remember one of my favorite bat reps - Adrian Wood with his orks, against Paul Sawyer's surrounded imperial guard, who actually won the match. I can't remember now what it was called.. I remember there being a picture of Adrian going "that's my dreadnought!" and then a picture of Paul with his head in his hands going "That's his dreadnought!"

That would be the Last Stand at Glazer's Creek starring my favs, Praetorian Imperial Guard. It was non points based scenario as well.

Definitely a downer about the delay in distribution to US subscribers. You would think that given it is the first issue, they may have erred on the side of caution to make sure subscribers got the issue before it hit the stand. Also bad show to mention Monday, when as everyone in the US knows, Monday is a Holiday, so Tuesday will be the earliest, so I feel that saying from Monday is a bit dishonest.

Also too easy to blame it on the USPS. Periodicals of this type go first class bulk mail. The mailing lists are sorted and CAS certified and then physically sorted by a commercial mail house according to the CAS certified list before delivering to the the USPS so that all USPS has to do is load it onto trucks according to the directions already done for them.

Reading between the lines there was a issue either delivering copies to the commercial mail house, the mail house did not make the bulk mail deadline, or there was in error in the sorting by the mail house and the mailing was rejected by the USPS accordingly. Given that they said they collected the copies, I believe it to be the later.

At the very least, they can at least make the digital copy available free of charge to those subscribers who will be receiving their issues late.

I'm assuming it was an issue related to bulk postage.

More worried about getting it and the figure being missing, than not getting it at all.

That to be tough, it was in a bag, in a bag, in a bag. The outer bag being totally opaque.

The odds of it being missing for any reason other than theft are pretty remote.

 Azreal13 wrote:
That to be tough, it was in a bag, in a bag, in a bag. The outer bag being totally opaque.

The odds of it being missing for any reason other than theft are pretty remote.

That's good news. I assumed it would be in clear bag, like at the newstand.

 adamsouza wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
That to be tough, it was in a bag, in a bag, in a bag. The outer bag being totally opaque.

The odds of it being missing for any reason other than theft are pretty remote.

That's good news. I assumed it would be in clear bag, like at the newstand.

It is, but with an opaque delivery bag with just your address on it.

My copy arrived yesterday. It's so much bigger than my old Dwarfs. I'm not really satisfied yet, it is a step in the right direction, but needs way more meat. C'mon, one page per guy for 4 generals with a lot of the page covered in pics of pretty much stock models without a hint of conversion? Blergh.

And my Slaugtherpriest has the little impaled skull broken off and a snapped Hackblade, worth contacting GW over this? I didn't when my Khorgorat had snapped tentacle arms and now I get *another* model damaged during transport?! Come ooon.

Binabik15 wrote:

And my Slaugtherpriest has the little impaled skull broken off and a snapped Hackblade, worth contacting GW over this? I didn't when my Khorgorat had snapped tentacle arms and now I get *another* model damaged during transport?! Come ooon.

Mine had the little skull broken off and loose in the bag. I'm not going to bother complaining. If I did I'd be more likely to mention the ridiculous size/scale of the model or the really poor sprue design where the mold line goes up the center of both legs' armour plates and spikes. This is the quality sprue design GW manage these days?

The magazine itself is better than the weekly offering was and way better than Visions. At the end of the day though, we're really just buying directed advertising.

Got mine today at Maldon's Tesco's.

Did a really quick and shallow review with a few pics.

http://mr-bugman.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/well-today-i-had-to-go-to-maldon-and.html

Truth be told they did put a lot of effort on this one, like they tried to cover every single game and more!
There is a bit for everyone and a lot for Space marine fans.

Its a huge deal with the free mini.

I wonder what they are going to do if I don't get my issue by the end of next week. Of course I didn't get mine on time, that would be too simple.

Yeah my little skull was snapped off too . Not too worried as he's already been converted into a pre-reunion angron

Just by way of inspiration for anyone not wanting an AoS or 40K Khorne dude... here's what I did with mine tonight:

That's pretty cool.

No sign of mine despite shipping on Wednesday.

Here is another good conversion from the the grand alliance forums. I am looking forward to seeing what else people do with this mini

what model are those wings from? Doesn't look like gargoyles to me. (and for that matter, what's that head precisely?)

 Bolognesus wrote:
what model are those wings from? Doesn't look like gargoyles to me. (and for that matter, what's that head precisely?)

I think the wings are from the Crypt Horror/Varghast kit. The head is from the Ghoul King on Zombie Dragon kit.

..Ah, right. Thanks. Might have to look into getting a hold of those bits

The postman has just been and still no white dwarf

 alanmckenzie wrote:
The postman has just been and still no white dwarf

Same

Is there something about Hobbit/LotR in it?

Not at all, thankfully!

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Not at all, thankfully!

I'll be sure to throw that remark back in your face when the first Hobbit issue comes along and you're whining that theres no 40K content.

I don't like Age of Sigmar, but I'm not so petty and childish as to rejoice when theres no content or releases for that game, or complain when there is.

Ohhhhhkayyyyy... I won't be doing any whining so on with your day, good sir. I'll enjoy any such content if it comes around.

Mine delivered today from Korea's one and only flgs. Arrived in a box o.O they take delivery very seriously over here! So far I'm really impressed. Whoever was whining on that it was an AoS issue was so far off the mark. Loadsa great stuff from the 41st. Great issue and a great return to form. Oh fig is pretty damn tasty as well - can be converted into pretty much a ton of other stuff if that's your flavour

 alanmckenzie wrote:
The postman has just been and still no white dwarf

At least its not just me then -.-

 Januine wrote:
Mine delivered today from Korea's one and only flgs. Arrived in a box o.O they take delivery very seriously over here! So far I'm really impressed. Whoever was whining on that it was an AoS issue was so far off the mark. Loadsa great stuff from the 41st. Great issue and a great return to form. Oh fig is pretty damn tasty as well - can be converted into pretty much a ton of other stuff if that's your flavour

Hell, I'm impressed with it and I'm not even interested in AOS, I no longer play 40K (still have my Raven Guard though) and I don't have the board games like Deathwatch or Betrayal at Calth. I'm gonna lend it to my friend, he's getting into painting and will find the paint guides very useful as he uses the GW paint range.

The Slaughterpriest might see use in Zombicide the Black Plague.

Really looking forward to the Hobbit SBG's comeback and rebranding. The new Iron Hill Dwarves look awesome.

Is that AoS slaughterpriest a subscription perk only or is it included with the WD copies in stores as well?

In stores as well

I got my issue in a Tesco supermarket.

Well it looks like many of us are in the same boat... I subscribed last weekend and haven't received my first issue either. My FLGS opens in 59 minutes, look like I'll try to pick up a copy there (two copies wouldn't be bad anyway with the extra content for the specialist games). Due to the holiday on Monday, we won't see our magazines until Tuesday (minimum).

I just hope it doesn't sell out too fast at my flgs. I could care less about the free models (I own most of the AOS models anyway). Now if it was the white dwarf model or a deathwatch master, then I'd have to clean my shorts.

I wish GW would go back to the days of old. When someone pre-ordered something directly from them, they got it the day of or a day before release. I pre-ordered the limited deathwatch codex and received it a week later, a week after everyone else had it in their hands. All this does is make folks buy/pr-order from online heavy discount retailers, as there is no bonus from ordering from gw.

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Mine hasn't arrived yet :(

Just picked up a copy and n tescos while buying the weekend shop, awesome to return to this once again! Quick flick I'm loving it. Art cover, art cover and once again .:...... Art cover!!!!! Woop woop

Just picked up a copy from my flgs as my subscription is still in that loop spoken of by gw.

Very happy with this. Content, great pics, some nice articles. It is almost the exact same White dwarf from years ago, but with a few more commercial pages for their products.

Very happy with the new white dwarf angle and glad I subscribed for more!

I got mine on Thursday, I've read most of it now and I have to say I'm very happy. A huge step forward compared to that thin weekly leaflet, but not quite at the level of the good ol' days of Fat Bloke and the original Tale of Four Painters.

The battle report was kind of nice, but I like mine a bit more detailed, and I prefer actual army selection and tactical decisions, not just 'take every model in the Studio army and damn the balance',. But we'll see, this is just the first issue, and it shows great promise IMO.

Maybe we'll see a return of non-Studio players to the bat-rep section, bringing their own armies along. One can hope!

it is such a heavy substantial mag, with a ton of 40K material!!!
i made sure to grab one with a Slaughterpriest that didn't have a broken skull on his shoulder...
that seems to be common, thanks to how tightly they packed the box :(

the Deathwatch design article was cool, and is the first thing i read...
just had a chance to look at the pretty pictures for everything else...
Knight House feature has some cool stuff...
Blanchitsu looks good...

my favorite is the Tau Kill Team conversion article...
they give a nice breakdown of the available bare heads, including the two female heads from the Ghostkeel and Fire Warrior boxes...
the best bit is the dual pulse pistol wielding gunslinger...
awesome conversion!!!

all in all, for ten bucks, with the free mini, this feels like a great way to relaunch the mag...
now i just need to send some pics, and get my minis in the "Reader's Model" section

cheers
jah

Have GW stated anywhere that this is how thick every issue is gonna be?
Or could this be a one-off bumper-launch-issue type of thing? and the regular ones will have less pages?

 reds8n wrote:

Exciting news for those of you who've been waiting for digital White Dwarf. Tomorrow from 10am (UK time) you can get the brand-new White Dwarf App for iOS and Android! This free App is your gateway to digital White Dwarf, allowing you to subscribe or purchase individual issues. What's more, we can now offer a combined subscription – that's right, for one great price you can get the printed White Dwarf delivered to your door and sign in to the App to download the digital version!
Check out www.games-workshop.com from tomorrow morning for all the details (and we'll post a link here to remind you, of course).

Has this actually happened yet? I can't find the digital white dwarf issue.

Joyboozer wrote:
Has this actually happened yet? I can't find the digital white dwarf issue.

According to Facebook, they are having some issues with digital issues (insert appropriate Xzibit meme here). Blaming squigs for it.

Got my first issue yesterday.

I'm very pleased to see White Dwarf looking more like a hobby magazine than a half hearted sales pamphlet. It's not perfect, and still nowhere near its halcyon mid 90s best. But it's absolutely rammed with articles. You know. Proper articles.

I've barely scratched the surface, but I think the highlight for me so far has been blanchitsu, with models painted and converted by the master himself. Might need to do a tech scavvy inspired kill team now.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Not at all, thankfully!

Well, too bad then. They could have gotten me with some lotr, especially since they are starting to produce new stuff for their best system now. I guess we'll have to wait until FW puts out its own magazine for 15€ per issue .

One would suggest there will be LOTR/Hobbit coverage but only really once there's any new releases -- for example once the revised/new rulebook is out.

Damn sold out in Osaka, asked a friend to get one for me a few prefectures away from me.

got mine! it's not bad, really.

edit: and the slaughterpriest is stupid huge. i'm calling him Big Spoon.

I think a very good indication it that now on the 5th of September I still have not read the entire mag through.

I got mine on the sub so a good few days ago now.

So far I'm really happy with it. Even the adverts look better...

Picked mine up Saturday (GW says Friday but only in their stores, everyone else has to wait a day).

I'm happy with the fig. I own a monstrous Khorne collection. The mag is pretty good. Has some weight to it. Quality is nice.

The issue is still stuffed with space marines so no real change there. All in all, good but not worth subscribing. I'll just pick up issues I find personally relevant.

Quite surprised with the letters section myself. One being quite critical of AoS putting point values back in, the other being from the chaps of that fantasy podcast who worked on the generals compendium.

Anyone notice the little text snafu on pg 9.

I wonder if that's causing the digital delay as it needs to be edited out of the mag...

Check the left hand side of the Rhino pic.

Apologies if already noted...

They also state that the Cassius boxed set contains ten models, leaving out the second Ultramarine character in the lineup, whereas later in the issue the box is listed with eleven models.

I also noticed that here and there a word may be missing from a sentence, though this could just be me?

 BrookM wrote:
They also state that the Cassius boxed set contains ten models, leaving out the second Ultramarine character in the lineup, whereas later in the issue the box is listed with eleven models.

I also noticed that here and there a word may be missing from a sentence, though this could just be me?

They would have had to recut the sprues to exclude Donatus. I highly doubt they did. Also, he is dead center in the promo image on the webstore.

There are a few typos here and there, one huge in an early-on feature-text box. Not bad for a mag made whilst making a month of weeklies at the same time, though!

I'm curious how far in advance these are written nowadays, back then it was six months in advance.

I think there's a mention somewhere that it was written in May, can't think in what article though.

Four months then, not bad. Here's hoping they can keep it up, as they really got me stoked for the next issue.

 Paradigm wrote:
I think there's a mention somewhere that it was written in May, can't think in what article though.

it's in the bit from the editor, right at the start I think

if peoples WDs havent arrived id advise you contact customer services. i had too

Not a bad issue, I thought. I went back to my 2012-2013 WDs to compared, those were during their "WD overhaul period" and not thought much of back then but on hindsight they were pretty meaty and had a fair bit of content. This latest issue seemed pretty much on par with those.

One trick they missed was not going back to the old WDxxx numbering scheme, that would have been a nice nod towards returning to the past, but eh :-)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I think there's a mention somewhere that it was written in May, can't think in what article though.

it's in the bit from the editor, right at the start I think

Page 10, number 2 in "Five things we love in... September". Was kind of weird how they mentioned that there.

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 alanmckenzie wrote:
The postman has just been and still no white dwarf

At least its not just me then -.-

.....Still no white dwarf.....

 alanmckenzie wrote:

GoatboyBeta wrote:

 alanmckenzie wrote:
The postman has just been and still no white dwarf

At least its not just me then -.-

.....Still no white dwarf.....

Same I had to contact customer services who said they would send a new one. They said to give it a week.

I purchased my subscription pretty late, August 29th, is it wrong to assume I should be receiving a Sept copy?

Has anyone who pre-ordered in the US received their copy yet? I was really hoping on seeing it today, but no luck.

 EnTyme wrote:
Has anyone who pre-ordered in the US received their copy yet? I was really hoping on seeing it today, but no luck.

Nope. Still haven't received it either. Great job, GW.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Has anyone who pre-ordered in the US received their copy yet? I was really hoping on seeing it today, but no luck.

Nope. Still haven't received it either. Great job, GW.

It's a screw up at the postal service. Check their facebook page.

Chopxsticks wrote:
I purchased my subscription pretty late, August 29th, is it wrong to assume I should be receiving a Sept copy?

Yeah, I think you had to subscribe before the 14th. I subscribed afterwards and I'm not expecting one in the post. I bought my September issue in a shop.

 General Kroll wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
I purchased my subscription pretty late, August 29th, is it wrong to assume I should be receiving a Sept copy?

Yeah, I think you had to subscribe before the 14th. I subscribed afterwards and I'm not expecting one in the post. I bought my September issue in a shop.

Where did you hear that? I put in a subscription on Aug 25th and the webstore's description distinctly said that the first issue would be sent on Sept 2nd. The description has changed since then to be more ambiguous.

(Note: Haven't received my copy yet, but due to a recent hurricane and Monday being a holiday, we haven't had mail for the past four days)

So I sent GW a E-mail yesterday about my subscription and they called( ) me back about it today. Seems that some one forgot to put the cut off date for this months issue on the web page for the subscription, so mine starts from next month. The GW guy asked if I wanted this months as they were trying to source more copies for people who were in the same situation. Fortunately I'd picked one up from a local Tesco over the weekend.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
So I sent GW a E-mail yesterday about my subscription and they called( ) me back about it today. Seems that some one forgot to put the cut off date for this months issue on the web page for the subscription, so mine starts from next month. The GW guy asked if I wanted this months as they were trying to source more copies for people who were in the same situation. Fortunately I'd picked one up from a local Tesco over the weekend.

That is going to seriously piss me off. If they had a cut-off date, it should have been mentioned up front.

Yeah, so nothing for Auckland subscribers anytime soon it seems. NZ subscribers shipments have been 'lost' according to GW Customer Service, so who knows when we'll see them.

Credit to GW though - once I rang them they have ordered a replacement copy for me. Two weeks delivery timeframe, so maybe October for my White Dwarf fix...

I follow a few GW staffers on Twitter and have seen mention that the cut off date was the 15th of August to get the first issue.

Picked up a copy yesterday, initial thoughts were that it's a decent issue - better than the 12-18 months prior to it going weekly, still a long way off what I consider it's mid 90's golden age.

Feels odd reading WD and there not being an article penned by Jervis, is he still with GW?

Overall I think it's good, definite step in the right direction and it should get better - the hopeful rise of Specialist Games should help as it'll give them more potential topics to cover.

K, well, I E-mailed GW about my missing copy. GW's customer service has always been above excellent, so I expect a good result here.

 foostick wrote:
Picked up a copy yesterday, initial thoughts were that it's a decent issue - better than the 12-18 months prior to it going weekly, still a long way off what I consider it's mid 90's golden age.

Feels odd reading WD and there not being an article penned by Jervis, is he still with GW?

Overall I think it's good, definite step in the right direction and it should get better - the hopeful rise of Specialist Games should help as it'll give them more potential topics to cover.

That's my feeling on it as well.

The good stuff:
- Free mini! Not sure what I'll do with him, but appreciated none the less
- Board game expansions! This is good. Really good. Having a Space Hulk mission in there really surprised me. This seemed like an attempt to widen the target readership of the magazine
- I did like the Temporal Distort section

The not so good stuff:
- Very, very busy layout. Pictures and stuff all over the place
- The battle report format I really didn't like, though to be fair it has been a really long time since I bought one
- The kill team showcase had so much promise and should have gone into more detail on the new expansion
- They should have continued the numbering scheme from previous monthly white dwarf's
- No Forgeworld coverage. Not even a little bit...

Nice start, for sure, but still a long way to go. I'll buy the first few editions and see how things go. But, at the moment, it's not worth shelling out for a subscription.

 zedmeister wrote:

- No Forgeworld coverage. Not even a little bit...

Yeah, that is a bit strange. Maybe we'll see some stuff next issue. Overall, I really like the magazine, though. Can't wait for the next one!

Also/and/but, I never received my subscription copy either (grabbed one at the store -- free mini anyways, so what the heck ). I will wait a bit longer before contacting GW.

Indeed, even a few shots of the recently previewed Blood Bowl minis would have been welcomed or a few nice photos of the Mastodon. But, alas...

It would be nice if they made it free and available online!

Daedalus81 wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Has anyone who pre-ordered in the US received their copy yet? I was really hoping on seeing it today, but no luck.

Nope. Still haven't received it either. Great job, GW.

It's a screw up at the postal service. Check their facebook page.

I believe you mean a screw up at multiple post offices. In different countries.

Sqorgar wrote:

 General Kroll wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
I purchased my subscription pretty late, August 29th, is it wrong to assume I should be receiving a Sept copy?

Yeah, I think you had to subscribe before the 14th. I subscribed afterwards and I'm not expecting one in the post. I bought my September issue in a shop.

Where did you hear that? I put in a subscription on Aug 25th and the webstore's description distinctly said that the first issue would be sent on Sept 2nd. The description has changed since then to be more ambiguous.

(Note: Haven't received my copy yet, but due to a recent hurricane and Monday being a holiday, we haven't had mail for the past four days)

I can't remember exactly where I read it to be honest. May have even been on the warhammer app. Could well be different in the states though. Hope things are ok there after the big storm have you tried emailing them to see if you are getting one? Might be worth sourcing another if you really want one.

zedmeister wrote:

 foostick wrote:
Picked up a copy yesterday, initial thoughts were that it's a decent issue - better than the 12-18 months prior to it going weekly, still a long way off what I consider it's mid 90's golden age.

Feels odd reading WD and there not being an article penned by Jervis, is he still with GW?

Overall I think it's good, definite step in the right direction and it should get better - the hopeful rise of Specialist Games should help as it'll give them more potential topics to cover.

That's my feeling on it as well.

The good stuff:
- Free mini! Not sure what I'll do with him, but appreciated none the less
- Board game expansions! This is good. Really good. Having a Space Hulk mission in there really surprised me. This seemed like an attempt to widen the target readership of the magazine
- I did like the Temporal Distort section

The not so good stuff:
- Very, very busy layout. Pictures and stuff all over the place
- The battle report format I really didn't like, though to be fair it has been a really long time since I bought one
- The kill team showcase had so much promise and should have gone into more detail on the new expansion
- They should have continued the numbering scheme from previous monthly white dwarf's
- No Forgeworld coverage. Not even a little bit...

Nice start, for sure, but still a long way to go. I'll buy the first few editions and see how things go. But, at the moment, it's not worth shelling out for a subscription.

Broadly agree with that assessment, seems pretty fair. I think it was a pretty decent start, given the size of the mag and sheer amount of content id probably give it 3.5 out of 5. I'd have liked to have seen a bit more Black Library stuff, and like you say more forgeworld, but I guess that will come. I do think they could do with finding more balance. For example the big battle report was AoS maybe they should have squeezed in a little Kill Team one for the 40k fans? It was great to see the board games getting all that support, but they could have spread that over a couple of months to allow for that kind of balance between fantasy and 40k. Like you say the layout was a bit busy at times wasn't it, but it wasn't unreadable, and I'm glad we weren't overwhelmed with adverts.

I agree they totally should have gone back to the old numbering, but I tell you what, I'm so glad that for once a magazine that's on sale in September is actually the September issue. I used to subscribe to SFX magazine, and it used to really niggle me that the month of the magazine was always at least two months out, so it'd be September and I'd have Novemebrs issue utterly ridiculous. It didn't matter in the scheme of things, but it was utterly barmy.

I'm going to stick with the sub, mainly because it's fairly cheap and I like having a magazine to read on the loo now and then. The painting stuff is always handy, and I'm going to like building up a nice collection....though I suppose I'm going to have to put up a shelf now.

Even if the magazine is decent, they managed to screw up everything else. Sounds like most subscribers aren't getting it until well after it has appeared in stores, which is ridiculous. And ridiculous that they implied it was the fault of the post office, which I'm sure is not true. They still don't have the digital version ready, well after everyone that wanted the magazine already subscribed to the print version. They just didn't get anything right.

I think that's a bit of a leap. The only ones you're hearing from are the ones that didn't get it. I'm sure there are plenty that got it early (like me), there's just no point posting about it on a forum

Albino Squirrel wrote:
Even if the magazine is decent, they managed to screw up everything else. Sounds like most subscribers aren't getting it until well after it has appeared in stores, which is ridiculous. And ridiculous that they implied it was the fault of the post office, which I'm sure is not true. They didn't have the digital version ready until after everyone that wanted the magazine already subscribed to the print version. They just didn't get anything right.

Have you anything to back up this wild claim?

Like Vorian said, that's a bit of a leap. Sure we've had a couple of anecdotal stories about people not getting a copy, some of whom may or may not have signed up after the cut off time I might add. We've also had dozens of posts from people who DID get their copy, some of whom got it well over a week in advance.

They should have got the digital edition ready to roll weeks ago, that's pretty inexcusable. But to say they got everything wrong with this release is simply unfair.

I haven't gotten my issue yet and bought my sub on July 22nd, so well before the cut offf. When I got my first White Dwarf sub those many moons ago the mag regularly came a week or more after the mag was in the stores, then they sorted it and it arrived on or before the actual store release date. It was mildly annoying to have to wait to get mine, but worse things in life to worry about than that.

Not going to berate them for a complete screwup just because my mag is late. Kind of a silly extreme to take it to. Just chomping at the bit to get my issue in hand.

Skriker

Have not seen mine yet either. :(

I don't think anyone in the US has gotten theirs yet. And based on the facebook comments, a lot of people in other places haven't either.

Based on the thread I sent an email and was advised that I was after the non-advertised cutoff for September and that my subscription started with the October issue. No other options were provided for their customer service oopsy except to buy it instore or online (and hence pay tax either way and shipping charges if purchased online). Since that's a portion of the savings I was adding in to my subscription I've asked if there is a way to pay the flat cost of the magazine and have it sent to me without shipping or tax.

GW is normally really good on the customer service so here's hoping.

**Edit**

Nevermind, they already fixed it. I do love GW customer service.

I am in the US. I have not received my September issue, I did buy an issue last Friday cuz I wanted it that second.... I called customer service today. The guy was super nice. Said that I am due a September issue and and explained the postal delay... He also added an extra issue to my subscription since I went out of pocket to get the issue last Friday. I didn't expect that. It was a nice touch.

Yeah, when I offered to just give them $9 for a copy they just sent me one for free due to the script mix up that was on the website for the subscription cut off to get the September issue. They were awesome.

Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

Chopxsticks wrote:
Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

That was the first reply I got. I followed up with another email stating that nothing said I wouldn't get September's when I ordered on the 23rd and they made it right by me.

I called and spoke to Customer Service. The guy I spoke to (he kept calling me "man" which was a little annoying) explained in detail what was up and it is unfortunate but this was actually not GW's fault. The Postal Service did not notify them that there was a problem for five days after the order was submitted. Apparently every magazine had to be relabeled and resubmitted. So it sounds like, if USPS had their poop in a group that the magazines would have been early . Frustrating, for sure, but this is not GW's fault (for once). Apparently, if one does not receive their issue by Saturday, they can call CustServ and a new one will be sent or they can opt to have a magazine added to the end of their subscription (my understanding, at least. I could be wrong about the second part).

 EnTyme wrote:
Has anyone who pre-ordered in the US received their copy yet? I was really hoping on seeing it today, but no luck.

As of yesterday, 9/6/2016, I had not. I haven't checked my mail today, though.

I preordered on 8/18/2016.

not that it makes the situation any better, but subscriptions have started a month or so after you bought it ever since i took out my first one in 1990...
they really should spell that out in large capital letters, though...

cheers
jah

Albino Squirrel wrote:
Even if the magazine is decent, they managed to screw up everything else. Sounds like most subscribers aren't getting it until well after it has appeared in stores, which is ridiculous. And ridiculous that they implied it was the fault of the post office, which I'm sure is not true. They still don't have the digital version ready, well after everyone that wanted the magazine already subscribed to the print version. They just didn't get anything right.

Oh, you're sure it's not true? Well then, glad that's settled.

I live in Japan which is famous for having a very good postal service. I got my white dwarf last Thursday. (triple wrapped too) I think that says something about who is at fault. The digital magazine is more of a problem but it is pretty common for things to get held up in the apple submissions process.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

No reply yet but I did tell them to cancel my subscription and refund me if September issue wasn't on the way (I said it politely).
No response yet.

They took care of me so I'd not worry to much. Be polite and don't push super hard and they bend over backward to make it right. At least they alays have for me.

 privateer4hire wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

No reply yet but I did tell them to cancel my subscription and refund me if September issue wasn't on the way (I said it politely).
No response yet.

Seems like a slight overreaction, but to each their own I guess..

 Hulksmash wrote:
They took care of me so I'd not worry to much. Be polite and don't push super hard and they bend over backward to make it right. At least they alays have for me.

This. GW Customer Service is very good. They have taken good care of me whenever stuff wasn't all good. I have never understood why people some people feel the need to be rude to people that are trying to help.

Chopxsticks wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

No reply yet but I did tell them to cancel my subscription and refund me if September issue wasn't on the way (I said it politely).
No response yet.

Seems like a slight overreaction, but to each their own I guess..

Missing a $10 issue (with rules for board games I really wanted) with a free $15 miniature ---- $25 value---on a $90 subscription seems worth the overreaction.
Since Issue 1 was the biggest selling point for me subscribing, I guess maybe my response is proportional...

It was for me too. Which is what I pointed out in addition to the fact that I didn't want to pay tax and possibly shipping for the first issue since that was part of my savings as well. Not 3 minutes after I sent that email did they have it fixed for me. This was early I the day when they probably had more free time but they were amazing at responding to my issues. Granted I offered to pay a flat $9 for the magazine if they'd drop tax and shipping since they said my subscription didn't start till October but they didn't even make me do that.

Seriously, they were amazing for me.

What are you guys doing to get such prompt responses? I emailed them 30 hours ago and haven't received a reply yet.

 Sqorgar wrote:
What are you guys doing to get such prompt responses? I emailed them 30 hours ago and haven't received a reply yet.

In my case, I called them. That seems to be what a lot of people did. Still 30 hours is an aberration for GW Cust Serv. Normally, unless it is a weekend, I hear back in 24 hours or less.

I emailed GW about my Slaughterpriest (snapped blade, the skull spike and the spike with chain broken), they asked for an order number and order address. Might I get a new one? And the other one can be converted if I have a second. Would be nice.

I'm now REALLY wondering about my Khorghorath with broken arm. I might have gotten an additional sprue from the starter :/

Doesn't seem fair to blame GW for the postal services' screw up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW's customer service has always been above excellent, so I expect a good result here.

Guess there's a first time for everything.

They told me "Wait longer.".

That's helpful.

Binabik15 wrote:
I emailed GW about my Slaughterpriest (snapped blade, the skull spike and the spike with chain broken), they asked for an order number and order address. Might I get a new one? And the other one can be converted if I have a second. Would be nice.

I'm now REALLY wondering about my Khorghorath with broken arm. I might have gotten an additional sprue from the starter :/

I got a new silver tower sprue when one guys knife was broken.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Doesn't seem fair to blame GW for the postal services' screw up.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
GW's customer service has always been above excellent, so I expect a good result here.

Guess there's a first time for everything.

They told me "Wait longer.".

That's helpful.

Patient: "Doctor I'm feeling unwell."

Doctor: "Get better."

 privateer4hire wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:

 privateer4hire wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

No reply yet but I did tell them to cancel my subscription and refund me if September issue wasn't on the way (I said it politely).
No response yet.

Seems like a slight overreaction, but to each their own I guess..

Missing a $10 issue (with rules for board games I really wanted) with a free $15 miniature ---- $25 value---on a $90 subscription seems worth the overreaction.
Since Issue 1 was the biggest selling point for me subscribing, I guess maybe my response is proportional...

If you felt it was worth the money why delay is deal breaker? Now, next week. You'll be reading it in the end. It's not like we are talking about delay of years...

He's not complaining about a delay, he's complaining about not getting the first issue he was expecting.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
I called and spoke to Customer Service. The guy I spoke to (he kept calling me "man" which was a little annoying) explained in detail what was up and it is unfortunate but this was actually not GW's fault. The Postal Service did not notify them that there was a problem for five days after the order was submitted. Apparently every magazine had to be relabeled and resubmitted. So it sounds like, if USPS had their poop in a group that the magazines would have been early . Frustrating, for sure, but this is not GW's fault (for once). Apparently, if one does not receive their issue by Saturday, they can call CustServ and a new one will be sent or they can opt to have a magazine added to the end of their subscription (my understanding, at least. I could be wrong about the second part).

So GW labelled the magazines wrong in the first place. How is that not their fault?

It's a pretty major screw up to have the big first issue of your new monthly magazine you've been promoting heavily not be in the hands of subscribers until over a week after it's been on store shelves.

Also a pretty major screw up to not announce the digital version until after the first issue releases, then not have the digital version actually be ready when you said it would be.

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Herzlos wrote:
He's not complaining about a delay, he's complaining about not getting the first issue he was expecting.

Yup. Delay is acceptable. Missing the first 'big issue', the one that convinced me to even give WD subscription a try again, was what has me annoyed.

Sorry if I missed it, but does anyone know what the non-advertised cut off date in the US was?

At this point I am definitely disappointed and it sounds like the news may only get worse and that I am possibly waiting on an issue that may never come and may have missed out on getting the 1st issue altogether. As other's have said, my big incentive for pulling the trigger on the subscription was two fold;

1. Promise that would get the magazine before or on date of release
2. Complimentary miniature valued at $30 USD

GW has already failed to meet expectation #1 and yes I hold GW ultimately accountable as while the USPS may have been slow to notify GW that the mailing was being rejected, the root cause was GW (or their contracted mail house) did not label the mailing correctly which likely would have resulted in the USPS not being paid the right amount for postage (hence why it was rejected).

It looks like I need to pop over to my local GW and see if they still have any issues as well as following up with GW customer service accordingly.

Lord of Deeds,

Email Games Workshop US Customer Service at CustServ@gwplc.com

Tell them your order number and date. They will tell you if you made the cut-off date or not. I have not seen anything with the date, which is frustrating.

So called customer service and got things sorted.

Consistent with earlier accounts, there was a cut off date. I couldn't get an exact date other than the customer svc. rep. referenced that the cutoff was when $80 USD pre-order special changed to the standard $90 price. At this point they are sending me the 1st issue though it likely will not arrive until next week. There wasn't an immediate offer to send me the 1st issue. Initially there was only apologies for any confusion and lack of communication. Instead I had to explain that having been informed about the delay via Facebook and not knowing that I missed the non-advertised cutoff date I had deliberately forgone purchasing a copy when I had the opportunity to still expecting to receive a copy in the mail. In other words, if I had known, I could of planned accordingly and would have been content. That if all they could offer was their apologies for the confusion my resolution would be that I would call my local games store and if they did not have a copy available for purchase I would call back to cancel my subscription. It was at that point the rep offered to dispatch the 1st issue.

I did call my local GW anyway and just by happenstance they just received today 15 additional copies for the 1st issue. They also got in their new release stock including only two void shield generators and only 4 Kharns. So just a heads up if you are planning on picking those up in store that on hand stock maybe very limited.

I am still unhappy about the whole sequence of events as they obviously had a forum for informing people, i.e. their store page, facebook, e-mails for orders placed after x-date, etc.; and their initial reluctance to do anything until I threatened to cancel my subscription, but I am satisfied that they did ultimately commit to sending me the 1st issue.

 Mymearan wrote:

Binabik15 wrote:
I emailed GW about my Slaughterpriest (snapped blade, the skull spike and the spike with chain broken), they asked for an order number and order address. Might I get a new one? And the other one can be converted if I have a second. Would be nice.

I'm now REALLY wondering about my Khorghorath with broken arm. I might have gotten an additional sprue from the starter :/

I got a new silver tower sprue when one guys knife was broken.

Yeah, I really should've contacted them. Asking real nice never hurts, does it. I could have tried the Khorgorath plus stegadon head conversion spooking around in my head.

Congrats on the free kickass ST stuff.

The ghostly cut-off date is all fine and dandy, but I'm interested in seeing what they tell me in regards to my subscription that I made in July. I wonder if they'll try to tell me I missed some non-advertised cut-off as well emailed them about 14 hours ago, probably just going to call when I get out of work unless I get an email back in the next couple hours.

Is there a US contact point? Because it's nearly 9pm in the Uk, so you're not hearing back today if that's the case.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Is there a US contact point? Because it's nearly 9pm in the Uk, so you're not hearing back today if that's the case.

Yes there is a dedicated US customer service # that is open Monday to Friday - 9.30am to 6.00pm US CST. At this point I would recommend calling if you want a more immediate response and to plead your case.

That said I would hope that an order placed in July should have had no problem making a mailing list that was shipped to the post office until Aug. 26.

Add a third major screw up, I guess, which is not informing people what issue their subscription would start with. Even now, if you subscribe on their website, it doesn't say which issue your subscription starts with. The description still talks about the first issue, as if that's what you'll be getting.

It also says, plain as day, "Subscribers will receive their White Dwarf on or before it's release day." This turned out to not be true. So they did not deliver on what they promised.

Chopxsticks wrote:Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

Well that is your problem. You emailed. Try calling them. Speaking to someone live does wonders.

Sqorgar wrote:What are you guys doing to get such prompt responses? I emailed them 30 hours ago and haven't received a reply yet.

Why do people keep insisting to email? Maybe I am old, but are people that lazy they can't talk to someone on the phone anymore? Is the cell phone just for texting now and not calling people no more?

Call someone on the phone you get a prompt response. Emails can take a a day or two to reply too. Why are you not calling? You would have had an answer by now by what you just typed out in the Dakka thread.

Davor wrote:
Why do people keep insisting to email? Maybe I am old, but are people that lazy they can't talk to someone on the phone anymore? Is the cell phone just for texting now and not calling people no more?

Well, if you must know, I am a lifelong sufferer of social anxiety. Over the years, through no small amount of effort, I've managed to overcome it in every way but using the phone (and drive thru speakers). Using the phone is just not an option for me. I could be dying on the floor, bleeding buckets from my rectum, and I'd email my wife to call 911 for me. I'm not proud of it. That's just the reality I live in.

Regardless, I've emailed GW customer service before and had prompt, quality service that I would rank up there with some of the best (up there with Nintendo and Apple). Emailing them and not getting a response in a timely fashion is an aberration - probably too busy answering the phones to check their email.

I found the White Dwarf locally and just shelled out the $9 for it, and now I'm not sure how to contact GW and tell them to please disregard the email that they were already disregarding...

So couldn't she just phone them for you then?

 Sqorgar wrote:

Davor wrote:
Why do people keep insisting to email? Maybe I am old, but are people that lazy they can't talk to someone on the phone anymore? Is the cell phone just for texting now and not calling people no more?

Well, if you must know, I am a lifelong sufferer of social anxiety. Over the years, through no small amount of effort, I've managed to overcome it in every way but using the phone (and drive thru speakers). Using the phone is just not an option for me. I could be dying on the floor, bleeding buckets from my rectum, and I'd email my wife to call 911 for me. I'm not proud of it. That's just the reality I live in.

Regardless, I've emailed GW customer service before and had prompt, quality service that I would rank up there with some of the best (up there with Nintendo and Apple). Emailing them and not getting a response in a timely fashion is an aberration - probably too busy answering the phones to check their email.

I found the White Dwarf locally and just shelled out the $9 for it, and now I'm not sure how to contact GW and tell them to please disregard the email that they were already disregarding...

Sorry for that, I can understand what you go through. I usually always have my wife do all the calling for me as well.

YouKnowsIt wrote:
So couldn't she just phone them for you then?

Like I said, I've always had good experiences with GW through email in the past. There was no reason to suspect that they wouldn't get back to me in a timely manner. I try really hard not to put my wife on a support call if I can help it. One time, after being on jerked around by Microsoft support for hours, she wouldn't talk to me for a week.

Davor wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:Well I just got my reply email and I ordered August 29th and the GW customer service person told me I missed the cut off and wont receive an issue until October.. lame

Well that is your problem. You emailed. Try calling them. Speaking to someone live does wonders.

Sqorgar wrote:What are you guys doing to get such prompt responses? I emailed them 30 hours ago and haven't received a reply yet.

Why do people keep insisting to email? Maybe I am old, but are people that lazy they can't talk to someone on the phone anymore? Is the cell phone just for texting now and not calling people no more?

Call someone on the phone you get a prompt response. Emails can take a a day or two to reply too. Why are you not calling? You would have had an answer by now by what you just typed out in the Dakka thread.

I insist on emailing because that's an option GW have given me. If they don't want customers to use it, they should remove the email addy as a choice.
It's 48 hours and still zero response while others have had responses after I emailed.
I dislike being on the phone for just about any reason. Bad enough I have to do it for work-related stuff.

Edit: And I'm old, too, Davor. Phones have morphed into every moment of the day intrusive annoyance.

last time i called GW, which has always been my first move Davor , concerning broken bits in my Silver Tower and Overkill boxes, they told me to email them...
the irony!!!

to be fair, it was so they could have pics of the bits that were broken on the sprues, but reading this conversation made me laugh about the situation...

Davor: "Have you tried calling?"
Me: "Yes, yes I did."
Davor: "What did they say?'
Me: "They said, 'Email us.'!"
heeheehee

i hope everyone gets their mag soon...

cheers
jah

The subscription price changed on the 15th of August so I imagine that was the cut off date.

Anyone in the US get their copy yet?
Friday and not a sign of it yet. :(

 tirnaog wrote:
Anyone in the US get their copy yet?
Friday and not a sign of it yet. :(

My mail usually arrives around noonish EST. If I don't get it today I start making phone calls. I ordered on 08 August at the early bird pricing so I know I got in before the cutoff.

I've been really patient, but from today on they're going to need to make this right to keep me on board.

Got a response at about 48 hours after emailing.
They realize there's an issue and they offered to source me a SEP magazine but couldn't make any guarantees I'd get one.

I've asked for a refund/cancel my sub. Not going to roll the dice in hopes they scare one up.

Local comic store says he's supposed to get some in this weekend. He had been my primary go-to until he started selling above MSRP on new releases.

I've worked retail, I know things happen. It kind of left a bad taste in my mouth how hard the dude I spoke to on the phone was throwing USPS under the bus though. Like, I get it, there was an error where they said everything was good then didn't inform GW that everything was actually not good in a timely fashion. But he kept bringing the conversation back around to it. I understand, dude, you want me to think it's not GW's fault, but we've moved on from that part of the conversation.