Seems a odd choice ? Unless the khorn game is the cover release and it includes a game card for his use in the game a.that could drive extra sales of the game
CURNOW wrote: Seems a odd choice ? Unless the khorn game is the cover release and it includes a game card for his use in the game a.that could drive extra sales of the game
From what I've read that is exactly the intended purpose. There will be AOS rules and gore chosen rules for the mini in the magazine. (This is all courtesy of Adhoc games on TGA)
Well, if nothing else, it will give me something to sell on eBay. Hardly the "Best Cover Mount Ever" as it was billed. Utterly worthless if you ask me.
It's a great miniature. What freeby has been comparable?
The only disappointment is that they haven't included somewhere cheap of getting the exalted deathbringer with impaling spear. The Silver Tower expansion and gorechosen overlap on the slaughterpriest with axe, and the start collecting khorne and WD overlap on the slaughterpriest with helmet. With one of those two overlaps, they could have included all of the generic khorne plastic characters (with both, they could have foisted a skarr bloodwrath on us, which would have been disappointing).
casvalremdeikun wrote: Well, if nothing else, it will give me something to sell on eBay. Hardly the "Best Cover Mount Ever" as it was billed. Utterly worthless if you ask me.
Considering GW charges $30 for single figure clam packs these days, it's the most valuable cover mount to date
I think the white dwarf was a better freebie.
Trouble is they can't really win as if they put the spacemarine in it the fantasy players wont think its the best cover mount ever and visa versa.
A space marine would be the better option though, as more 40k players and more factions would be able to use it with out converting it(even chaos players)
Though i would prefer a plastic white dwarf, which can be liked out side of wether someone can use it in a game.
It is a very well designed model with an excellent pose, probably the best Khorne character to date. It will be useable in AOS, silver tower, and gore chosen. I have also seen some pretty good 40k conversions. I don't play chaos but I am looking forward to painting it up. Here is a good example.
Chikout wrote: It is a very well designed model with an excellent pose, probably the best Khorne character to date. It will be useable in AOS, silver tower, and gore chosen. I have also seen some pretty good 40k conversions. I don't play chaos but I am looking forward to painting it up. Here is a good example.
I am not saying it is a bad model. I am saying that it isn't the best thing ever. It is worthless to the vast majority of GW customers.
Off the top of my head the freebies I can think of are: mission cards, an Ork Brawling Mini Game, the occasional miniature, a comic, AOS rules Pamphlet.
The best subscription bonus was when they gave Gorkamorka with a years subscription. I got 2 years worth of subscriptions that year.
For the longest time they gave a $15 box set of your choice, which back them was like a 6 pack of guys or a bike.
If they put a freebie with every issue, I'm sure it go a long way to clear issues off the shelves and keep retailers happy.
Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
Chikout wrote: It is a very well designed model with an excellent pose, probably the best Khorne character to date. It will be useable in AOS, silver tower, and gore chosen. I have also seen some pretty good 40k conversions. I don't play chaos but I am looking forward to painting it up. Here is a good example.
I am not saying it is a bad model. I am saying that it isn't the best thing ever. It is worthless to the vast majority of GW customers.
While I understand that this model may not be to your taste ( and I would have preferred a steampunk white dwarf), I can't understand this opinion.
It is useful to anyone who plays chaos in AOS, 40k, or 30k. It is useful to the thousands of customer who picked up silver tower, or will pick up gorechosen and finally it is useful to anyone who just wants to paint a nice miniature. That seems like a pretty broad selection of customers. Also as a hero character you can use it as is, you don't need to buy the rest of a squad. The liberator by comparison was considerably more worthless.
Obviously your suggestion of a voucher is better, but it does not have the impact of a miniature stuck to the front of a magazine.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
That would be prohibitively expensive for GW to do. Not only would they have to have a huge supply of figures available, there would be labor costs to pick and pack, plus packaging materials, and shipping costs.
Vouchers to turn in at retailers for existing clam packs would cost them nearly $30 a pop. ($30 minus the retailers discount, plus labor, plus packaging and shipping for replacement figure )
casvalremdeikun wrote: Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
That would be prohibitively expensive for GW to do. Not only would they have to have a huge supply of figures available, there would be labor costs to pick and pack, plus packaging materials, and shipping costs.
Vouchers to turn in at retailers for existing clam packs would cost them nearly $30 a pop. ($30 minus the retailers discount, plus labor, plus packaging and shipping for replacement figure )
decker_cky wrote: It's a great miniature. What freeby has been comparable?
The only disappointment is that they haven't included somewhere cheap of getting the exalted deathbringer with impaling spear. The Silver Tower expansion and gorechosen overlap on the slaughterpriest with axe, and the start collecting khorne and WD overlap on the slaughterpriest with helmet. With one of those two overlaps, they could have included all of the generic khorne plastic characters (with both, they could have foisted a skarr bloodwrath on us, which would have been disappointing).
Free minis are hardly new thing in WD. Okay so it's most valuable but that's due to huge price hikes in character models due to becoming plastic.
For being branded "best ever" I did expect something not seen before. Okay it's freebie so hardly reason to complain but again...It's not something not seen before AND it will leave all non-AOS fans not interested.
Again it's not bad in itself but for first new WD and being taunted as "best ever" I was expecting something more inventive. And something that would be usable by either game system players.
This feels like it would be more appropriate as 3rd or 4th freebie(if the rumour of first 4 having freebie). 1st something awesome not seen before type usable by either system that would really fit descriptiona as "best ever", then the cartoon freebie and then free miniatures for AOS and 40k. That's how I would do it. First something big to get fans buy first WD. This attracts fans of one subfaction of game that's not even biggest seller of GW. Very small target.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
That would be prohibitively expensive for GW to do. Not only would they have to have a huge supply of figures available, there would be labor costs to pick and pack, plus packaging materials, and shipping costs.
Vouchers to turn in at retailers for existing clam packs would cost them nearly $30 a pop. ($30 minus the retailers discount, plus labor, plus packaging and shipping for replacement figure )
Not necessarily, when I worked at GW in 05-06 WD sub people had a choice of a few different models to choose from. The SM capt with 2 handed thunderhammer running forward, Inq Giddion Lor ( the finger pointing witch-hunter), the female Inq. Fantasy had a few figgies including the WD to choose from, hell even LotR had a few guys to choose from....
And if that is the 'new Khorne' aesthetic im going to weep openly for my beloved Kharn....capt of the 8th assault company...
I have to agree 'best ever' doesn't really describe that figure well. I've ordered a subscription anyway but I can honestly say I have next to no interest in that model. I was expecting a plastic white dwarf, I had a free white dwarf figure years ago which currently leads my longbeards, it has a two handed axe held close in and vertical and there were special scenarios in the magazine. Now a plastic version with AoS and warhammer quest rules would have been something special.
Promethius wrote: I have to agree 'best ever' doesn't really describe that figure well. I've ordered a subscription anyway but I can honestly say I have next to no interest in that model. I was expecting a plastic white dwarf, I had a free white dwarf figure years ago which currently leads my longbeards, it has a two handed axe held close in and vertical and there were special scenarios in the magazine. Now a plastic version with AoS and warhammer quest rules would have been something special.
White dwarf would have been...well at least classical. Still wouldn't neccessarily say that's best ever before either. How this white dwarf would have been different to previous white dwarfs? (well unless he's sigmarined white dwarf!)
Would still have been a) something done before b) still only targeting part of fan base. Good yes but what would make it "best ever" freebie?
Brother SRM wrote: By not focusing on the new hotness week to week, they'll cut down on leaks and as a result the magazine will hopefully be less about the new hotness, and more about general hobby stuff like it used to be. I'm very hopeful, and getting a free mini or two out of it is icing on the cake!
And cutting down on the "leaks" will just kill the excitement for future products. This still mind boggles me why GW would not want to share what they are working on. Again two steps forward, one step back. I still find GW petty when it comes to this.
That said, at least the two steps forward GW is doing really good right now. Well for GW standards that is.
Funny how there was even more leaks and further in advance than week before WD went weekly...Yeah WD needs to be weekly to have leaks yes it does! NOT!
Week early leak isn't much of excitement anyway. Better source of excitement comes from guys like Sad Panda, hastings etc who gives out ideas MONTHS ahead. That does not require weekly wd.
Indeed. You don't require leaks to generate excitement for future products, you just need a halfway sensible marketing policy. How and where the printed mags fit into that alongside web announcements, social media and such is all part of that. And in fairness it seems GW are improving in these regards.
I'm going to endeavour to grab the new issue for the model at any rate, but this promise of new content is most exciting. I still reckon WD was the best it's been in recent years when it went to the larger format (the last iteration before Weekly), that was always packed full of stuff and even if a lot of it was just pretty pictures, there was always an article or three worth reading. A return to that kind of thing would be most welcome, and at one a month, I think I'm much more likely to buy regularly down the line.
I think the pre-order subscription offers are pretty fair for a modern day print publication, if White Dwarf is your thing a 12 month "introductory offer" subscription nets you more than 3 "free" issues in a year. The taster 3 month subscription basically nets you a single free issue (well it is 50p more than the cost of two issues, but you get the idea).
I'll probably do the 3 month subscription - It's cheap enough that it's no big deal if it's not great, and i'll definitely get a copy with the freebie that way.
ImAGeek wrote: I'll probably do the 3 month subscription - It's cheap enough that it's no big deal if it's not great, and i'll definitely get a copy with the freebie that way.
I did exactly that.
I've been away from GW since leaving working for them nearly a decade ago, and have been an amused/despairing casual observer since. But their recent releases (boxed games) have got me getting back to my roots, and my missus and I have started messing with AoS as its so simple to learn (she board games a lot, but never could be bothered with minis beyond painting, but seems to gel with AoS pretty well, possibly due to playing Silver Tower first).
I figure twelve quid is not the worst price to pay to try WD again, and if not, easily cancelled with little lost.
I was reading WD since 188, and have read backwards to 1, so it will be nice to go back to the good old days... we shall see...
Thraxas Of Turai wrote: I think the pre-order subscription offers are pretty fair for a modern day print publication, if White Dwarf is your thing a 12 month "introductory offer" subscription nets you more than 3 "free" issues in a year. The taster 3 month subscription basically nets you a single free issue (well it is 50p more than the cost of two issues, but you get the idea).
Only in some countries though. Here in Sweden we only get two free issues :(
In other news, just signed up for a 12-month subscription! Really looking forward to that Slaughterpriest, honestly of the best minis released and that along with the other Khorne characters seriously make me consider adding a Bloodbound contingent to my Chaos army...
That is rubbish for those of you abroad, obviously over there you use the Krona, do those countries using the Euro get a similar bad deal? I assume the Aussies get hit with the worse deal as usual.
As for the free miniature I am stoked with the Slaughterpriest, I think it is a great miniature that I was going to add to my collection anyway.
Destrado wrote: The quarterly subscription is only available for the UK? Tried Rest of the World (Europe) and the only option was 12 months for... £95 ?!
95£??
12 months delivery to Denmark is 66£ at the current exchange rate.
Destrado wrote: The quarterly subscription is only available for the UK? Tried Rest of the World (Europe) and the only option was 12 months for... £95 ?!
Where are people getting free issues from? The way I see it, I don't see it as getting free issues, I see it as paying $7.50 Canadian a issue, instead of $12.50. It sounds so much better than 3 free issues.
Or am I missing something and you are actually getting free issues as well?
Davor wrote: Where are people getting free issues from? The way I see it, I don't see it as getting free issues, I see it as paying $7.50 Canadian a issue, instead of $12.50. It sounds so much better than 3 free issues.
Or am I missing something and you are actually getting free issues as well?
No, that's all. Just how people are choosing to interpret the savings.
Davor wrote: Where are people getting free issues from? The way I see it, I don't see it as getting free issues, I see it as paying $7.50 Canadian a issue, instead of $12.50. It sounds so much better than 3 free issues.
Or am I missing something and you are actually getting free issues as well?
Also factor in the free mini and comic that we know we are getting with WD (and rumored 2 more. Supposedly the first four issues come with a freebie), and we're talking about a MAJOR discount.
German GW site only has the 12 month subscription. I'm not willing to risk that. I would've gone for a three month one to be guaranteed the Slaughterpriest edition.
Binabik15 wrote: German GW site only has the 12 month subscription. I'm not willing to risk that. I would've gone for a three month one to be guaranteed the Slaughterpriest edition.
Shorter subscriptions have only ever been available in the UKAFAIK.
I'm in two minds wether to subscribe digitally or physically. I get all my books and stuff digitally these days as Its so much easier storage wise....but I love the idea of having a stack of new white dwarves to add to my old ones from the 90s...I didn't like the look of weekly so didn't bother with it, but this new approach has peaked my interest.
Davor wrote: Where are people getting free issues from? The way I see it, I don't see it as getting free issues, I see it as paying $7.50 Canadian a issue, instead of $12.50. It sounds so much better than 3 free issues.
Or am I missing something and you are actually getting free issues as well?
No, that's all. Just how people are choosing to interpret the savings.
Thanks, I thought I missed something. I wasn't going to get a subscription because I thought, "Ooooooo 3 free issues is not a big deal) when I still have to pay $12.50 an issue. But paying only $7.50 an issue, now that is a big savings. Now I am actually thinking of considering to this when before I thought it was a joke.
Now before I do, I just want to make sure, how does WD get delivered? By regular mail?
casvalremdeikun wrote: Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
That would be prohibitively expensive for GW to do. Not only would they have to have a huge supply of figures available, there would be labor costs to pick and pack, plus packaging materials, and shipping costs.
Vouchers to turn in at retailers for existing clam packs would cost them nearly $30 a pop. ($30 minus the retailers discount, plus labor, plus packaging and shipping for replacement figure )
Not necessarily, when I worked at GW in 05-06 WD sub people had a choice of a few different models to choose from. The SM capt with 2 handed thunderhammer running forward, Inq Giddion Lor ( the finger pointing witch-hunter), the female Inq. Fantasy had a few figgies including the WD to choose from, hell even LotR had a few guys to choose from....
And if that is the 'new Khorne' aesthetic im going to weep openly for my beloved Kharn....capt of the 8th assault company...
You do realise there is a difference between something you get to pick with your subscription, and something they attach to an issue at the news stand ?
ImAGeek wrote: I'll probably do the 3 month subscription - It's cheap enough that it's no big deal if it's not great, and i'll definitely get a copy with the freebie that way.
I've just done this. £12.50 for three issues including postage is a ridiculous deal for any magazine these days. 150 pages is longer than some codexes and with an £18 freebie on the first issue that I can use, it's a total no brainier.
Frankly, if the mag is a good read that'll be a bonus!
Oh man. Cannot WAIT to get my free Slaughterpriest! Do GW know I have been eyeing up cause like ting a Bloodbound army? The fact that this is not one of the 4 Heroes in Gorechosen makes this even better.
Do we have confirmation that the free mini is the slaughter priest ? As all I've seems is someone saying it could be and then people taking that as fact ?
CURNOW wrote: Do we have confirmation that the free mini is the slaughter priest ? As all I've seems is someone saying it could be and then people taking that as fact ?
No official confirmation but a user on tga who runs an independent stockist heavily hinted as much. A second user heard the same thing from his red shirt. Nothing is certain, but as a gorechosen tie-in, it makes a lot of sense. At this stage I would be very surprised if it was something else.
Having a magazine with Kharn on the front, only for it to come with a different blood-crazy dude in armor, is somewhat amusing to me I've got to admit.
Returning to games workshop after a very long time, after picking up the aos starter for 40 quid at the week end have just put in a 3 month sub for white dwarf. Thought I'd give it a shot, plus saving even more cash on gws products can't be bad,,,
If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
The only thing I am sad to see is no Blanchitsu. With the recent Pilgrymme game at warhammer world with the Ironsleet crew I was hoping it might get featured in a Blanchitsu in White Dwarf.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
I went all-in on a year subscription, but I am thinking that was a mistake. I have some Age of Sigmar stuff I wouldn't mind new info for, but if they don't give equal focus to 40K, the magazine is a waste.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
If the rumours are anything to go by the releases they cover will be the deathwatch, the next 40k campaign book and the new gorechosen board game. That seems pretty balanced.
Bottle wrote: The only thing I am sad to see is no Blanchitsu. With the recent Pilgrymme game at warhammer world with the Ironsleet crew I was hoping it might get featured in a Blanchitsu in White Dwarf.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
Because one issue, good or bad, will undoubtedly be indicative of the entire year of releases.
P.S.
Many sources have indicated that GW is going to be alternating focus from 40k to AoS from year to year. i.e. 2016 was mostly AoS with a scattered 40k, 2017 will be mostly 40k with scattered AoS.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
Because one issue, good or bad, will undoubtedly be indicative of the entire year of releases.
P.S.
Many sources have indicated that GW is going to be alternating focus from 40k to AoS from year to year. i.e. 2016 was mostly AoS with a scattered 40k, 2017 will be mostly 40k with scattered AoSo.
I've put my money on the table in the hope of a good hobby magazine and if I get, great. If it's just 'buy the new release!!!' I won't stick with it. That's all.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
I went all-in on a year subscription, but I am thinking that was a mistake. I have some Age of Sigmar stuff I wouldn't mind new info for, but if they don't give equal focus to 40K, the magazine is a waste.
Is it just me, or is there really anything going on with 40k right now outside of FAQs?
AoS is all the rage right now. It's OK. I'm sure they won't leave their bread and butter on the sideline for long.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
Because one issue, good or bad, will undoubtedly be indicative of the entire year of releases.
P.S.
Many sources have indicated that GW is going to be alternating focus from 40k to AoS from year to year. i.e. 2016 was mostly AoS with a scattered 40k, 2017 will be mostly 40k with scattered AoSo.
I've put my money on the table in the hope of a good hobby magazine and if I get, great. If it's just 'buy the new release!!!' I won't stick with it. That's all.
Well lucky for you, they've said multiple times that the new format won't be a product catalogue and will focus more on battle reports, designers' notes, painting tutorials, etc.
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
Because one issue, good or bad, will undoubtedly be indicative of the entire year of releases.
P.S.
Many sources have indicated that GW is going to be alternating focus from 40k to AoS from year to year. i.e. 2016 was mostly AoS with a scattered 40k, 2017 will be mostly 40k with scattered AoSo.
I've put my money on the table in the hope of a good hobby magazine and if I get, great. If it's just 'buy the new release!!!' I won't stick with it. That's all.
Well lucky for you, they've said multiple times that the new format won't be a product catalogue and will focus more on battle reports, designers' notes, painting tutorials, etc.
Well that's great and we live in hope. But it is possible we will have, for example, the sylvaneth issue with how to paint sylvaneth, battle report sylvaneth, designers notes sylvaneth, which amounts to 'buy sylvaneth!!!' I would love to see it turn out different but that article list doesn't give me much hope. Fingers crossed!
Promethius wrote: If there isn't 40k content my subscription will get cancelled after the first quarter. I have next to no interest in age of sigmar. I was hoping for a fairly balanced first issue.
I went all-in on a year subscription, but I am thinking that was a mistake. I have some Age of Sigmar stuff I wouldn't mind new info for, but if they don't give equal focus to 40K, the magazine is a waste.
Is it just me, or is there really anything going on with 40k right now outside of FAQs?
AoS is all the rage right now. It's OK. I'm sure they won't leave their bread and butter on the sideline for long.
That is certainly true. It is definitely time for some 40K though.
I really hope they have the 1/3rd Lord of the Rings. That was the only thing making White Dwarf any good in the mid 2000s. Loved the LotR articles and battle reports and what not.
Hopefully there will be a healthy amount of LotR. I guess with over 150 pages, that should mean at least 50 pages for 40K, AoS and LotR.
casvalremdeikun wrote: I am hoping for more options for some of the board games like Deathwatch: Overkill and Silver Tower.
Yeah, it would be great if they included mini-games and expansions to existing games like they used to.
I'll third that motion. Only WDs I've bought over the past 18 months have had board game stuff I was after.
New missions for DWOK, B@C, a new 'hero' for the new Warhammer Quest and being able to use Warhammer Quest ST stuff in AoS.
Considering how poor the last monthly WD dong and the amount of times they tried to fix it, I'm not holding out a lot of hope that this new one will be good.
What number will the first issue be? 1? the next after the last monthly wd or the next after the last weekly wd?
Davor wrote: I really hope they have the 1/3rd Lord of the Rings. That was the only thing making White Dwarf any good in the mid 2000s. Loved the LotR articles and battle reports and what not.
Hopefully there will be a healthy amount of LotR. I guess with over 150 pages, that should mean at least 50 pages for 40K, AoS and LotR.
I don't think it will yet, but when they start releasing new stuff for LotR I'm sure there'll be stuff in the mag.
Was tale of four warlords the articles were 4 gamers would start with a small collection and each issue they would get bigger and bigger and fight with eachother? I absolutely loved that, I hope it's the same thing.
unmercifulconker wrote: Was tale of four warlords the articles were 4 gamers would start with a small collection and each issue they would get bigger and bigger and fight with eachother? I absolutely loved that, I hope it's the same thing.
Yeah. It was called Tale of Four Gamers before, and I loved it too. They started one of them in my first ever issue of white dwarf when I first got into wargaming.
unmercifulconker wrote: Was tale of four warlords the articles were 4 gamers would start with a small collection and each issue they would get bigger and bigger and fight with eachother? I absolutely loved that, I hope it's the same thing.
Yeah. It was called Tale of Four Gamers before, and I loved it too. They started one of them in my first ever issue of white dwarf when I first got into wargaming.
Sweeeeeeeeet, looking forward to this even more now.
Hmm 65€ (with free shipping) for 12-month subscription, sounds good
I've always been a White Dwarf reader ever since issue 249 I think, immediately hooked me into 40k ^^
I even continued my subscription when White dwarf weekly/warhammer visions came out, but after few months I had to cancel.. I hated the price of the weekly magazine & the size of the monthly one(and the french/german translations, I mean wtf O_o).. Been buying single issues every now and then.
Hopefully this new format will bring back the magazine we all like to read
I just moved all my old WD's from my old house into new house (my poor back...) and had a subscription in the past. With the new format they introduced, I quit subscribing as the magazine became an unreadable and uninspiring mess.
Now, with new GW management, and new vibes into online comms etc, I jumped aboard the WD ship again and bought the Year-sub for the € 65 deal. I am willing to give them a new chance, as the old WD's were always very enjoyable to read. The price is nothing to be sneered at either; € 5,40 including shipping per magazine is a great deal imho. And when it still is a unreadable mess, € 65 is not too much of a risk to take.
The return of Painting Masterclasses is great. The old Eavy Metal ones were fantastic, and actually explained how to paint a model to a high standard, not just what colors to use like the current format that just shows 3 close up boxes of an area of the model with the base/wash/highlight colors.
Yeah, the old masterclass compliation book is fantastic, if we get more like that then I can't wait! Also very excited to see the return of (hopefully) full length, detailed Battle Reports. Yes, they're all over Youtube, but the professionally shot and written ones with fantastic models and terrain were always the highlight of old WDs for me.
The painting master classes were the reason I kept getting the monthly magazine even after the quality of the magazine went down hill. I have every monthly issue form 60 onwards (went digital at the end) but only 4 weeklies. I think that says something. I have got a one year subscription to the new mag. (14000 yen or £103 at current exchange rates. And the say the Aussies have it bad!) I am really looking forward to getting my hands on it.
Paradigm wrote: Yeah, the old masterclass compliation book is fantastic, if we get more like that then I can't wait! Also very excited to see the return of (hopefully) full length, detailed Battle Reports. Yes, they're all over Youtube, but the professionally shot and written ones with fantastic models and terrain were always the highlight of old WDs for me.
Hopefully they will include maps of the table so I can understand what was going on. I had a really hard time following the newer style of battle reports where it was just photos and text.
I suspect you'd need to order it via your relevant digital platform, not via the physical subscription page? If it's not up for pre order, then I'd guess probably not.
I'm in for a years subscription. Not only does it save me $27 and 12 trips to the LGS, but if the rumors are true that the first 4 issues come with freebies, they'll sell out at the LGS before I get my hands on them.
Not to mention all the times I've gone to the LGS on the release date to get the White Dwarf and they won't have it until 3 days later because someone didn't put it on a truck fast enough. Then having to make a second trip only to find out they won't have it until next week because of another shipping error. Topping it off with it being sold out when I make the 3rd attempt to pick it up.
It's 150 pages isn't it? That's longer than some codexes and only a slightly smaller page format, so 14 pages, assuming there'd be a lot of photos, doesn't seem unreasonable.
Azreal13 wrote: It's 150 pages isn't it? That's longer than some codexes and only a slightly smaller page format, so 14 pages, assuming there'd be a lot of photos, doesn't seem unreasonable.
Except, you know, Natfka.
White Dwarf Weekly 131 quoted it at 156 pages. That is pretty darn big for the price. Assuming 10% is advertisements, it is still a lot of room for stuff. I am really looking forward to it. I hope they have a fair amount of Armies on Parade and exclusive rules. I wonder if that 156 pages includes the rumored Chaos Space Marines supplement or if that is separate. At any rate, if all of the issues are 150+ pages, I know I will be happy with my $80 investment.
willb2064 wrote: The return of Painting Masterclasses is great. The old Eavy Metal ones were fantastic, and actually explained how to paint a model to a high standard, not just what colors to use like the current format that just shows 3 close up boxes of an area of the model with the base/wash/highlight colors.
Agreed about the current step-by-step panels in the current WD.
I love their Warhammer TV videos but the 3-4 panels that just tell you what paint they used remind me of How to Draw the Tick.
casvalremdeikun wrote: Well, if nothing else, it will give me something to sell on eBay. Hardly the "Best Cover Mount Ever" as it was billed. Utterly worthless if you ask me.
Translation: I don't like/have a use for this particular model, and since the world revolves around my entitled opinion, it's utterly worthless.
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casvalremdeikun wrote: I am not saying it is a bad model. I am saying that it isn't the best thing ever. It is worthless to the vast majority of GW customers.
Source on it being "worthless" to the vast majority, since you feel entitled to speak for them/us?
And I guess by extension, you think it should be a Space Marine in order to appeal to the broadest segment of GW's customer base. Sounds exciting.
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casvalremdeikun wrote: Honestly, I would rather they gave a voucher to subscribers that let us choose from a short list of characters. Maybe one or two from each faction. That way everyone would be happy.
Again, ridiculously over-entitled wants for what is a freebie stuck to the front of a magazine. Also a needlessly complex nightmare in terms of logistics, and far, far more expensive for them to implement.
For being branded "best ever" I did expect something not seen before. Okay it's freebie so hardly reason to complain but again...It's not something not seen before AND it will leave all non-AOS fans not interested.
Again it's not bad in itself but for first new WD and being taunted as "best ever" I was expecting something more inventive. And something that would be usable by either game system players.
This feels like it would be more appropriate as 3rd or 4th freebie(if the rumour of first 4 having freebie). 1st something awesome not seen before type usable by either system that would really fit descriptiona as "best ever", then the cartoon freebie and then free miniatures for AOS and 40k. That's how I would do it. First something big to get fans buy first WD. This attracts fans of one subfaction of game that's not even biggest seller of GW. Very small target.
I'm not an AoS fan in particular, but I'm interested. Thanks for presuming that you can speak for me. As has been said, it's an awesome model in general, has use in 30k, 40k (simple conversions, both), WHFB, (and by extension, T9A), specific use in AoS, WQ:ST, Gorechosen. Mine will be used for several of those, plus my KoW army.
Azazelx wrote: Source on it being "worthless" to the vast majority, since you feel entitled to speak for them/us?
You claim AOS has more buyers than 40k?
Well okay guess it's not useless if you want to go to trouble of dumping it on ebay. Of course that's mostly helpful for brits. For those living say in Finland postage price makes it stupid for buyer to buy or you don't get any meaningful profit from it.
And I guess by extension, you think it should be a Space Marine in order to appeal to the broadest segment of GW's customer base. Sounds exciting.
Or howabout something, shock horror, usable in every game? Such a radical idea!
This is one model for specific army in specific game. Hardly "best ever". There's been plenty of freebie models before so would be nothing new there. What makes this one best ever? That it's AOS? Sheesh at AOS fanboys. Freebie is best ever simply on account of it being AOS model!
Again, ridiculously over-entitled wants for what is a freebie stuck to the front of a magazine. Also a needlessly complex nightmare in terms of logistics, and far, far more expensive for them to implement.
Not unheard though and that would actually be better...So there's been better freebie before yet you claim this is BEST FREEBIE EVER!
Can't figure why free model is better than free choise of model but ah well..
AOS fans!
Problem isn't freebie itself. Problem is it's being marketed as BEST FREEBIE EVER! When it's obviously not usable by majority of buyers and is obviously worse than what's been before.
unmercifulconker wrote: Was tale of four warlords the articles were 4 gamers would start with a small collection and each issue they would get bigger and bigger and fight with eachother? I absolutely loved that, I hope it's the same thing.
Yeah. It was called Tale of Four Gamers before, and I loved it too. They started one of them in my first ever issue of white dwarf when I first got into wargaming.
I can't see it being the same - it was all about gaming on a budget (visiting store launches for discounts, kitbashing, that sort of thing). I'm expecting it to be more like the last attempt where it was just 4 of the WD crew buying and painting up new armies with critical thinking or discussion.
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I'm almost tempted in the intro offer, the first one could make an interesting monster for Frostgrave.
unmercifulconker wrote: Was tale of four warlords the articles were 4 gamers would start with a small collection and each issue they would get bigger and bigger and fight with eachother? I absolutely loved that, I hope it's the same thing.
Yeah. It was called Tale of Four Gamers before, and I loved it too. They started one of them in my first ever issue of white dwarf when I first got into wargaming.
I can't see it being the same - it was all about gaming on a budget (visiting store launches for discounts, kitbashing, that sort of thing). I'm expecting it to be more like the last attempt where it was just 4 of the WD crew buying and painting up new armies with critical thinking or discussion.
Iirc they've had...what, 3 of them?
First one was WFB - this was the £50 to start with then £25 a month - where there were a lot of conversions, visits to store openings etc. I remember this fondly cause at one point a Bacon sandwich counted as one of Paul Sawyer's purchases during the month.
Second one was also WFB - I think the budget idea was upped but points became more of a factor in this.
The third was 40k - no budget. All about points with an Apocalypse formation being the final goal in the last month.
Azazelx wrote: Source on it being "worthless" to the vast majority, since you feel entitled to speak for them/us?
You claim AOS has more buyers than 40k?
Never said that or even insinuated it. I took issue with you attempting to speak for anyone but yourself - as opposed to the "vast majority" of players of GW games as you claimed. As has been repeated several times by several people, that model works as-is for several GW games - and takes very little conversion to work for 40k or even 30k.
Well okay guess it's not useless if you want to go to trouble of dumping it on ebay. Of course that's mostly helpful for brits. For those living say in Finland postage price makes it stupid for buyer to buy or you don't get any meaningful profit from it.
I don't buy magazines hoping to make a profit from a cover mount freebie.
But you know what? You bothered to resort to ad hominem straw man arguments multiple times by calling me "AOS fan" and "AOS Fanboy" as well as saying that I have "claim(ed) that it's the best freebie ever" when I've said no such thing. So in light of those comments and your demeanor in general, I'm throwing you on ignore, because I don't have the time to waste. But mostly because of reds8n's red text.
Signed up for the year. I haven't bought a WD since they did Index Astartes articles back in the good old days for CSM, and it's great to see they're going back to the old format
Bolognesus wrote: Consensus has been the slaughterpriest with hackblade for a while now, hasn't it?
Yeah. But is it 100% for sure? I don't personally care for it, I don't play AOS, but I'm sure I can fit it somewhere. It would be nice if it was an exclusive pose or something.
Where were the rumors that the other 2 of the first 4 would be models as well? That would make it 3 models and the comic, right? I would think at least one model would then be 40k. Something for everyone, 3rd model from LotR? That'd be cool.
I don't play AoS and I was still pretty pumped to get the Sigmarine guy strapped to my White Dwarf when AoS dropped. Built him, painted him up, and he's seen some use as a Frostgrave Miniatures. I'm sure I'll find a use for the slaughter priest.
Bolognesus wrote: Consensus has been the slaughterpriest with hackblade for a while now, hasn't it?
That's the consensus but it seems kind of baseless. It would be kind of underwhelming to package an already-released model in the magazine, but if they've got a buttload of them lying around it'll let them get rid of stock I guess.
Chopxsticks wrote: Im only razzing people because it seems ridiculous to complain about free things, unless its an STI, then I would complain about that...
I know what you mean. We get free rules and war scrolls and people still complain about that. I guess the saying is true. Someone somewhere will always complain about GW no matter what they do.
Bolognesus wrote: Consensus has been the slaughterpriest with hackblade for a while now, hasn't it?
That's the consensus but it seems kind of baseless. It would be kind of underwhelming to package an already-released model in the magazine, but if they've got a buttload of them lying around it'll let them get rid of stock I guess.
It makes sense when you link it to the Gorechosen release.
He's free with the first issue of WD, so you'll need to get hold of a copy if you don't want to pay full price for him. We don't know about the other gifts yet, other than the preview issue of the new 40k comic that's attached to WD issue 2.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I've only been half-paying attention to this thread as I don't care about White Dwarf. However this guy looks awesome, and I'd like to get him.
How do you get him? Are there actually 3 different models (that guy and 2 others)? What's the story here?
There is only 2 models of the Slaughterpriest. One with the huge axe and horns growing out of his back, and the other with the hackblade and wrath hammer (your link). All rumours point to him being the cover mount to go with the Gorechosen release. Buy the white dwarf for a few bucks (was it £4/5?). Get him for a hefty discount.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I've only been half-paying attention to this thread as I don't care about White Dwarf. However this guy looks awesome, and I'd like to get him.
How do you get him? Are there actually 3 different models (that guy and 2 others)? What's the story here?
There is only 2 models of the Slaughterpriest. One with the huge axe and horns growing out of his back, and the other with the hackblade and wrath hammer (your link). All rumours point to him being the cover mount to go with the Gorechosen release. Buy the white dwarf for a few bucks (was it £4/5?). Get him for a hefty discount.
Not sure where you got 3 models from.
He's also a part of a 3 model bundle on the site, so that might be causing some confusion
Actually, that's not too bad, you'd pay about that for something like Classic Rock or Total Film Magazine, which aren't close to 150 pages and chock full of ads. Assuming the production quality is of a good standard, printed on decent paper ect, then I think that's probably a fair price (and definitely more enticing that 4x£2.55 a month!).
Paradigm wrote: Actually, that's not too bad, you'd pay about that for something like Classic Rock or Total Film Magazine, which aren't close to 150 pages and chock full of ads. Assuming the production quality is of a good standard, printed on decent paper ect, then I think that's probably a fair price (and definitely more enticing that 4x£2.55 a month!).
Paradigm wrote: Actually, that's not too bad, you'd pay about that for something like Classic Rock or Total Film Magazine, which aren't close to 150 pages and chock full of ads. Assuming the production quality is of a good standard, printed on decent paper ect, then I think that's probably a fair price (and definitely more enticing that 4x£2.55 a month!).
Hello all. Not long now until the new White Dwarf. We'll have the first of a few special previews coming very soon, but for now one thing we can tell you is that we've got a page for your letters. So, we want your comments, questions and requests - what you like most about the magazine, what you want to see more of, questions for Grombrindal or the team, and more.
We want to hear from you, so put your missives in the comments - we'll try and respond to as many as we can here and we'll feature the best of them in the magazine. You can always email us at team@whitedwarf.co.uk if you prefer. We look forward to hearing from you!
Paradigm wrote: Actually, that's not too bad, you'd pay about that for something like Classic Rock or Total Film Magazine, which aren't close to 150 pages and chock full of ads. Assuming the production quality is of a good standard, printed on decent paper ect, then I think that's probably a fair price (and definitely more enticing that 4x£2.55 a month!).
True, but WD is chock full of ads too.
So are most magazines.
But when you strip those ads out, most magazines still have more content.
Plus the ads are usually somewhat relevant (all of the ads in W,S&S or WI are gaming related).
Hello all. Not long now until the new White Dwarf. We'll have the first of a few special previews coming very soon, but for now one thing we can tell you is that we've got a page for your letters. So, we want your comments, questions and requests - what you like most about the magazine, what you want to see more of, questions for Grombrindal or the team, and more.
We want to hear from you, so put your missives in the comments - we'll try and respond to as many as we can here and we'll feature the best of them in the magazine. You can always email us at team@whitedwarf.co.uk if you prefer. We look forward to hearing from you!
That's cool. Hopefully they can handle some rules issues here.
Paradigm wrote: Actually, that's not too bad, you'd pay about that for something like Classic Rock or Total Film Magazine, which aren't close to 150 pages and chock full of ads. Assuming the production quality is of a good standard, printed on decent paper ect, then I think that's probably a fair price (and definitely more enticing that 4x£2.55 a month!).
True, but WD is chock full of ads too.
So are most magazines.
But when you strip those ads out, most magazines still have more content.
Plus the ads are usually somewhat relevant (all of the ads in W,S&S or WI are gaming related).
I miss the X-Ray vision glasses they used to advertise in the Comic Books. If I only had those when I lived near the beach...
adamsouza wrote: Now we have an email address we can send letters to asking about upcoming support for sisters of battle
I'm sure they have an Outlook rule in place already sending anything with the words "Sisters", "SOB", "Squats", "Balanced" or "Chapterhouse" straight to the bin...
Azreal13 wrote: And I'm sure they'll take the time to respond to all eight of you...
I pity whoever has the job of trawling through that email account. I'd expect a lot more than eight emails that make them wish death on all the world including their own poor selves.
kronk wrote: Just pre-ordered my subscription. I'm getting one of these ugly things with Issue 1, though? Weird.
Your donation of ugly Khorne dudes is appreciated. In return, we can organise to have you posted a message of thanks from a poor, unpainted Space Marine or Sigmarine who has had nobody to fight until they received your kind donation of assistance. Won't you choose to help out?
Azreal13 wrote: And I'm sure they'll take the time to respond to all eight of you...
I pity whoever has the job of trawling through that email account. I'd expect a lot more than eight emails that make them wish death on all the world including their own poor selves.
kronk wrote: Just pre-ordered my subscription. I'm getting one of these ugly things with Issue 1, though? Weird.
Your donation of ugly Khorne dudes is appreciated. In return, we can organise to have you posted a message of thanks from a poor, unpainted Space Marine or Sigmarine who has had nobody to fight until they received your kind donation of assistance. Won't you choose to help out?
Maybe I can put a Space Marine Power Pack on him and he'd be a Counts-As Blood Angels Chapter Master?
Also, I've totes already emailed that email twice...
Azreal13 wrote: And I'm sure they'll take the time to respond to all eight of you...
I pity whoever has the job of trawling through that email account. I'd expect a lot more than eight emails that make them wish death on all the world including their own poor selves.
Yeah, but they'll be reaping what they've sown somewhat. I've often said GW should re-engage, and commonly someone always pipes up with "but that would just be a gak storm of negativity."
It will. I hope they realise that if they push past that and keep going, that in and of itself will go a long way to damping down a lot of the hostility.
I pulled the trigger on a 12 month subscription last WE thanks to a few old WDs I read and this thread. If new-nuWD sucks I'll be mad as hell at y'all! Print is still so much better to read, even if you know the content already. I will miss the artwork on the covers though, I hate the photograph heavy approach of GW nowadays.
(If there's really, no joke, it's real, the hackblade SP on the cover I'll also buy another one and give the mag itself to my brother...if only the axe SP was be in the SC Bloodbound over the hackblade guy)
So, less than two weeks until the new White Dwarf is here! We've heard a lot of suggestions on what you want to see in the new magazine and perhaps the most requested feature has been… battle reports. Well, here's a sneak peek of a little something we think you'll rather like… Excited?
I got a reply from them regarding a question I sent them today, I asked them if they would be featuring narrative campaigns that readers coils adapt themselves. And they responded that this was indeed something that they would be looking to do, but not something they had started yet, and that they were already working on January's issue.
My fiance bought me a subscription for my birthday (which is in Sept) so I'm really looking forward to a new read, I did like and prefer the older magazines with conversions and building and terrain tutorials as well as eavy metal painting guides for when you wanted to actually learn and try new things. My biggest gripe on the more recent magazines has been the standard of painting featured :-( I know not everyone can paint like a master but I just loved looking at them all :-)
Anyone know if it will be sold in local newsagents and supermarkets?
I'm pretty much delirious over this, white dwarf disappearing was a dark time for me and my favourite money spinning hobby. If they return to drawn covers I think I would actually weep. Was never a fan of the photoshopped models.
Cover mounts, To4G, Batreps, Rules... it's almost like the new WD crew have taken notice of what the most-wanted/missed and requested features of the mag were.
Someone else mentioned a proper painting guide? The return of proper 'eavy Metal instead of Paint Splatter?
Well, I'm already regretting the three month tester sub - AoS Tale, AoS battle rep, AoS cover model, and rules for boxed games I don't play.
No word if Blanchitsu has survived, and so far it seems the only 40K "content" we'll be getting is a look back at releases we'll have already seen on the website.
Yodhrin wrote: Well, I'm already regretting the three month tester sub - AoS Tale, AoS battle rep, AoS cover model, and rules for boxed games I don't play.
No word if Blanchitsu has survived, and so far it seems the only 40K "content" we'll be getting is a look back at releases we'll have already seen on the website.
On the plus side you can flog the cover mounts to attempt to recoup some losses.
If these WDs resell as well as the Visions I no longer had use for you may even make more than the sub price. I was eBaying them for less than the cover price but more than my sub.
Additionally there appears to be some content for those with more varied taste within the GW games systems.
It is a 160 page magazine. What we have seen so far covers 30 pages at most. At the very least it will have Kharn and his campaign book info. It is also highly probable that the second months battle report will be for 40k.
Azazelx wrote: As is complaining that the WD will have content for 9 different boxed games that have been released in the last year or so and freebie cover mounts.
And also "AoS Tale, AoS battle rep, AoS cover model...".
Y'know back in the old days there were WD issues that contained heaps of Warhammer Fantasy stuff and basically no 40K stuff. Guess what I did with those issues? I didn't buy 'em! And getting a magazine subscription when you so actively dislike half of what a company does seems kinda silly to me, almost like pre-ordering a game sight unseen. Just buy the issues you want and forget the rest.
I guess the next step is to complain about Kharn and his CSM mates providing the 40k content when you're only interested in SoB or Black Templars or summat.
Azazelx wrote: As is complaining that the WD will have content for 9 different boxed games that have been released in the last year or so and freebie cover mounts.
How dare GW cover GW products in a GW magazine, the cheek of it.
Azazelx wrote: Gives you more of an opportunity to complain?
I guess the next step is to complain about Kharn and his CSM mates providing the 40k content when you're only interested in SoB or Black Templars or summat.
Azazelx wrote: Gives you more of an opportunity to complain?
I guess the next step is to complain about Kharn and his CSM mates providing the 40k content when you're only interested in SoB or Black Templars or summat.
Mate, I ain't the one complaining.
I think Azazelx was using the generic you, rather than the specific you.
As everybody knows though when you are a seriously bitter person the thing you need to do is actually spend your money on something that you hate so that you can complain more efficiently about it
Ah yes, I forgot, you can't just be disappointed or regretful here, you must be compaining/whinging/moaning/hating blah blah blah.
I thought £12 was worth a punt to see if the new WD was any good. I subsequently stated my provisional opinion on that based on the info we have so far. My god, I am a monster *sarcastic eyeroll gif goes here*
Yodhrin wrote: Ah yes, I forgot, you can't just be disappointed or regretful here, you must be compaining/whinging/moaning/hating blah blah blah.
Oh stop it. This has nothing to do with that, and throwing that ol' chestnut as a 'get out of my silly statements for free' card won't work on me.
As I said, correctly, complaining that WD will cover AoS is folly. Of course it's going to cover AoS, it's one of GW's main product lines, and when I saw issues covering mostly Fantasy back in the day I skipped them because they didn't interest me. I didn't buy them sight unseen and then complain about it afterwards. I looked at what I was buying before I bought it, as everyone should.
Yodhrin wrote: Ah yes, I forgot, you can't just be disappointed or regretful here, you must be compaining/whinging/moaning/hating blah blah blah.
I thought £12 was worth a punt to see if the new WD was any good. I subsequently stated my provisional opinion on that based on the info we have so far. My god, I am a monster *sarcastic eyeroll gif goes here*
I think people probably thought you were just being a little bit over the top dude. We've not had the first magazine in hand yet, let alone all three of those 3 you've paid for. White Dwarf always see sawed between Fantasy and 40k coverage, I've got a box sat next to me of 90s WD and it's very much always been the case that some months they covered one game more than the other.
That being said, I'd have thought they'd have gone for a more even coverage for the first issue....BUT we don't know that they haven't. Look at all the 40k stuff in the boxed games they are covering, we don't know what those rules entail, or those articles.
I'm still keeping an open mind and looking forward to it.
Yodhrin wrote: Ah yes, I forgot, you can't just be disappointed or regretful here, you must be compaining/whinging/moaning/hating blah blah blah.
Oh stop it. This has nothing to do with that, and throwing that ol' chestnut as a 'get out of my silly statements for free' card won't work on me.
As I said, correctly, complaining that WD will cover AoS is folly. Of course it's going to cover AoS, it's one of GW's main product lines, and when I saw issues covering mostly Fantasy back in the day I skipped them because they didn't interest me. I didn't buy them sight unseen and then complain about it afterwards. I looked at what I was buying before I bought it, as everyone should.
I think complaining is more of that first issue is very heavy on AOS with not much for 40k. So 40k fans have currently pretty much zero reason to buy it.
AOS tale. AOS BR. WHAT 40k content there is supposed to be?
This is why I don't subscribe to it. Going to be almost certainly too many months without useful content. If it was 50-50 fine but if it's AOS with maybe one 40k article why would I buy it?
AOS tale of 4 gamer is useless for me. Free miniature would go straight to trashbin. BR is useless for me. So far there's not been much in form of 40k articles being mentioned...Nevermind are they actually worth paying for.
It funny really. I am expecting the first issue to be mostly about 40k. Kharn is on the cover. I am hoping for interviews about Deathwatch and Deathmasque. The AOS hobby articles seem deliberately chosen to make up for the 40k focus of the issue.
You realize you would get it cheaper by buying wd than paying finnish postages plup enough for me to even bother? Too much hassle for like 5e profit
No, I mean you can donate me yours and send it to me for free if it's so useless. :-D (A guy's gotta try) Or give it to my friends in Helsinki and they can bring it over.
If you subscribe to WD it should be because you're interested in GWs entire offering. There's really no point if you detest one of their biggest games and hope it gets as little coverage as possible. Back in the day I read every article about Blood Bowl, Epic, 40k, Man O War, Warhammer Quest, Gorkamorka, Necromunda, etc... Even though I'd never touched any game but WHFB. I didn't play those games but they intrigued me and I was happy to read about them and check out some great photos of the minis and terrain. I certainly didn't have any negative feelings towards them and if I had gotten a free mini from one I would've been stoked.
You realize you would get it cheaper by buying wd than paying finnish postages plup enough for me to even bother? Too much hassle for like 5e profit
No, I mean you can donate me yours and send it to me for free if it's so useless. :-D (A guy's gotta try) Or give it to my friends in Helsinki and they can bring it over.
So let's see. I first pay for useless wd and then pay to ship model elsewhere and get nothing at all in return. Even if wd itself was interesting you realize it would be better for me to just throw model into trashbin? Even if you paid shipping it would STILL be better to trash it.
Mymearan wrote: If you subscribe to WD it should be because you're interested in GWs entire offering. There's really no point if you detest one of their biggest games and hope it gets as little coverage as possible. Back in the day I read every article about Blood Bowl, Epic, 40k, Man O War, Warhammer Quest, Gorkamorka, Necromunda, etc... Even though I'd never touched any game but WHFB. I didn't play those games but they intrigued me and I was happy to read about them and check out some great photos of the minis and terrain. I certainly didn't have any negative feelings towards them and if I had gotten a free mini from one I would've been stoked.
Exalted this. I was the same way. I let me sub lapse over the last few years, but I'm really tempted by this new one. Trying to decide if I should just buy the first few issues and then subscribe or just jump back in.
I'm a sucker for most things GW. I have managed to stay out of AoS mostly, but Silver Tower pulled me in, hopefully something really inspiring comes out to add to my High Elves when they reach that point.
H.B.M.C. wrote:I think complaining that WD is going to have AoS content is a bit on the petty side.
I wonder when the complaining will start if and when Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit start getting coverage.
Speaking as someone who still collects the models and plays the game, I will have nothing but positive words for more coverage.
Looking forward to the new Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit rules. Sadly not looking forward toward the price and if it's Forge World only, so be hard to buy then. Hopefully White Dwarf will let us know what is going on soon so I can plan to get back into LotR.
adamsouza wrote: The only truly wasted White Dwarfs are the ones that heavily feature LOTR
Hahaha even though I loved LOTR as it was the game my friends played the most, I used to find the WD's that had a heavy focus on LOTR to be the least exciting if I wasn't in the mood for the game.
Wish the US customers had the 3-month/6-month sub options.
I'd love to get at least the first 3 in my mailbox rather than hoping that my FLGS will set one aside for me.
$89 for a 12-month sub is a bit too much for me right now.
Ahh, well. Colour me excited anyhow. Loving the new rules for the boxed games.
Also excited to see what the future may hold for Space Hulk... Rules for Hybrids maybe?
Is there any info on where the new WD will be sold? Will it be in non gaming shops alongside other magazines like visions and the old monthly WD, or will it be mail order and GW/gaming stores only?
Azazelx wrote: Gives you more of an opportunity to complain?
I guess the next step is to complain about Kharn and his CSM mates providing the 40k content when you're only interested in SoB or Black Templars or summat.
Mate, I ain't the one complaining.
It was the generic "you" - not you personally. I was/am in full agreement with your post. Apologies for being unclear.
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Mymearan wrote: If you subscribe to WD it should be because you're interested in GWs entire offering. There's really no point if you detest one of their biggest games and hope it gets as little coverage as possible. Back in the day I read every article about Blood Bowl, Epic, 40k, Man O War, Warhammer Quest, Gorkamorka, Necromunda, etc... Even though I'd never touched any game but WHFB. I didn't play those games but they intrigued me and I was happy to read about them and check out some great photos of the minis and terrain. I certainly didn't have any negative feelings towards them and if I had gotten a free mini from one I would've been stoked.
Logic! Commonsense! A Reasonable set of expectations!
Mymearan wrote: If you subscribe to WD it should be because you're interested in GWs entire offering. There's really no point if you detest one of their biggest games and hope it gets as little coverage as possible. Back in the day I read every article about Blood Bowl, Epic, 40k, Man O War, Warhammer Quest, Gorkamorka, Necromunda, etc... Even though I'd never touched any game but WHFB. I didn't play those games but they intrigued me and I was happy to read about them and check out some great photos of the minis and terrain. I certainly didn't have any negative feelings towards them and if I had gotten a free mini from one I would've been stoked.
yep, pretty much my sentiment exactly, except that i am more into laser guns than swords and boards
the concept of wanting to throw a free mini in the trash, rather than stick it in a drawer, or give it to a friend, is completely baffling to me...
a free mini is always a good thing...
i am stoked for the release of the first issue, and can't wait to see how it looks...
i'll be at GW on that Saturday morning to get my issue, and show off some new paint jobs...
i always enjoy a short visit to the shop
H.B.M.C. wrote: Where do you even purchase this issue? I can't seem to find anything on the handy dandy user friendly GW site.
I must admit I don't understand why people find the website so problematic. White dwarf is (and always has been) in the books and digital section. Here is the link for the subscription.
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/White-Dwarf-12-month-sub-ENG The individual issue goes up for preorder tomorrow.
jah-joshua wrote: the concept of wanting to throw a free mini in the trash, rather than stick it in a drawer, or give it to a friend, is completely baffling to me...
a free mini is always a good thing...
Let's see...Put it in drawer to collect dust...Eeh I'm not that addicted to plastic. You do know you don't have to hoard things "just because it's free"? Have you ever seen houses that kind of attitude results in? I don't paint just for sake of painting and I sure as hell don't get models just to sit collecting dust and I have 0 use for that in game as I don't touch that trash AOS that has zero depth or tactical challenge or even fun so nothing I can use the model for.
Give to friends...Good idea except I don't have any friends who are interested in the AOS(no surprise. That ain't even game). So nobody to give it for free.
And it ain't worth selling because I can't get enough from it to make it WORTH selling. Let's see. It would cost about 3e to ship it inside finland(packing included). More obviously to to out of country. Then what profit for me? 5e? That's 8e total. More than WD costs so only IDIOT would buy it from me. And 5e profit...You know not everybody lives next to post office nor even have business there often. Unless buyer wants to wait for several months(quite likely) for me to have business in post office I would need to do detour which means I'm losing time. Time is money and 5e is pittances. It's more hassle than it's worth.
Free mini you have zero use is useless. Keeping it is NEGATIVE proposition as it would just clutter already too cluttered room. I should sell models away rather than get more. Especially when new model is absolutely USELESS. WHAT use unpainted plastic that won't ever see use in a game would have?
@tevna82: you, or a friend, could easily convert the Slaughterpriest to a 40K Berserker...
i don't play any game, so painting is the whole point of minis for me...
Khorne is my favorite Chaos God...
i like free stuff...
so, yeah, i will never understand your attitude, no matter how much you explain it...
it just doesn't make sense to me...
of course, i don't get the AoS anger either, since so many people have successfully played it, it must actually be a game, regardless of your claims to the contrary...
go ahead and chuck your free mini in the bin, but don't expect me to understand your anger...
i hope you at least enjoy the new magazine
jah-joshua wrote: @tevna82: you, or a friend, could easily convert the Slaughterpriest to a 40K Berserker...
Doesn't look at all 40k model. More like WOW(no surprise since AOS style has went to same dime in a dozen style). Plus who said I have anybody playing 40k khorne either?
i don't play any game, so painting is the whole point of minis for me...
Works for you. I don't just paint to sit in some box. And I don't have enough room to keep every model visible so if I don't play they would sit in boxes which is pointless. Might just as well paint and then throw to bin then. But that's just waste of painting time. One could use that time to paint something I USE in game.
If model isn't used in game it's useless. And if I can't get rid of it without being more hassle than worth it then I bin them. Even if it's painted paid models. Been there done that. If I can't play anymore with them and nobody is willing to buy them for money that's worth the trouble(especially common in rarer games) then it's bin them or end up in home like this:
Spoiler:
That ain't fun to live at.
If it's not used it's not needed. If it's not needed it ain't going to be in my home. I already have too much stuff as it is. I don't need more.
i hope you at least enjoy the new magazine
Dunno. First magazine seems to have zero hobby content that would be useful for me so won't buy it. Maybe 2nd magazine will have something but if it's more AOS trash only or board games I don't have then pass until there's SOMETHING for 40k that's not just ads for latest releases.
I'm also angry, but at the ugly font and layout. I know that I stopped buying shorty before it looked like this
YEARS ago, but I'm still longing for the look of the late 90s and early 00s. At least with German WD.
Okay, I'm not actually angry and I dont throw away free minis while complaining.
@tneva82: yeah, it sounds like not buying the mag would be your best bet...
it's really not worth getting so worked up over
as a huge fan of minis, it just seems a real shame to me that you would have so little respect for them...
different strokes for different folks, i guess...
i don't know why you would think that collecting minis would lead to a messy hoarder house...
they fit nicely into boxes, that stack quite neatly besides, i don't keep my finished minis...
i sell them, and make a couple of hundred bucks each, so you can see why my attitude is different to yours...
i don't know anything about WoW, but i do like the look of the new AoS minis...
i don't have that Slaughterpriest yet, so i will be stoked when i get mine for free
like Mymearan's post that i quoted originally, i like the settings of all the GW games (even though i don't play them), so i will enjoy reading the new issue, and see how it has changed from the Weekly (which i felt was too slim) and Visions (which i really enjoyed)...
this is a hobby, meant to be fun, not rage inducing...
i hope you, at least, enjoy building your army
I think the problem White Dwarf is going to have is that it could becomes stale quite quickly. They have limited options to call upon to design new material so eventually you are going to fall into a rutt with it being AoS/40k battle reports/painting/Tale of Warlords version 2345. The advantage of the Paul Sawyer era WDs was that there was so much material to pull from their could always be something different because you had specialist games/WFB/40k/LotR (and note my hunch is that I don't think the Hobbit is going to get a huge coverage in the new WD because it is a bit too close to AoS as competition). For all of these they weren't as constrained in what they could do; so you could have generally interesting terrain articles that showed you how to build up from basic materials, but that could be applied across the different game systems. You're likely not going to get articles on how to design your own gaming board, or build your own Bretonnian chapel. As such if you aren't interested in one of either 40k/AoS then there's not going to be much to draw you for long if the articles and just rinse and repeat over and over.
The other thing I am concerned about that it is still only going to be a sales magazine as it was last time based on the Tale of Warlords article. One of the beauties of the original series was that there were no constraints to how they could build their lists, and IIRC there were conversions (and yes Paul Sawyer did indeed buy a bacon sandwich). You hence got to hear about there thought processes, why they were making certain choices etc. This time however they are being told what to buy and paint each time and every time which makes it 'feel' like more of a sale gimmick. I mean just look how many times they repeat "Start Collecting!" on the page it's at least 6 times excluding the box set images themselves. They also tell you twice that each set as least one hero and two units in the same darn section. Yes this is only one page but generally you advertise products by using one of your better pages.
So I am a bit wary that this new evolution of WD isn't quite going to live up to the hype.
MaxT wrote:You seem really quite angry over it. Maybe spend your money on a spa day instead ?
This made me drop an entire hobnob biscuit in my cup of tea you bounder.
As for the Slaughterpriest, he looks like the ideal model for doing conversions on. He doesn't HAVE to be a Khorne model for AOS he could be anything you like with a bit of imagination and conversion work.
I think mines going to be a Death Cult Assassin for my Inquisitors.
Just a week to go now (and you can pre-order from tomorrow, too). We've shown you a couple of old favourites – the Battle Report and A Tale of Four Warlords – so time for something brand new, something you've never seen before – the Ultimate Guide, a brand-new feature with the Imperial Knights taking centre in September's issue. Old favourites, brand-new features, what more could you want?
That is true and so many other magazines but there are ways to do that aren't quite so distracting. You can still advertise something without ramming it down peoples throats so they end up choking on it.
Just take the latest page - it's literally count the number of times they state "Imperial Knights", "Knights" or "knightly" when for the most part they are completely surplus to providing a good dialogue. English language works on linking sentences/paragraphs together and it can in the end be too distracting. It's almost like that GW think that the more times they mention something in any section the more likely you will buy it.
Unfortunately these last two pages remind me more of this:-
You're saying you can't find a place for that in 40K? The mini is incredible.
I have no need for this mini.
I will enjoy painting it anyway!
If you find no reason to buy Issue 1, then don't. There is no sense in trying to talk someone into buying something that doesn't fit their needs.
If you do buy it and don't like the mini, give it to your FLGS so they can use it for prize support at a tournament or something. Tossing it in the trash hurts me in the feels.
Made sure to secure order the WD at the store because with that free model it will be gone gone gone so fast. Not a Chaos player but I'll find a use for him.
Seriously? It is an article about Knights. How dare they use the word Knight a lot! It is a bit grandiose, but that is the 40k style. My favourite content ever in white dwarf was the index astartes stuff (in which I am pretty sure they said the words 'space marine' a lot). This reminds me of that. If it is half as good as that I will be happy.
Edit. The word knightly is used twice. That is definitely far too much.
Well, I agree that the 4 Warlords article seems phishy. Let's see if they'll use conversions and not-flavour-of-the-month units or it'd get pretty boring.
I'm a bit spoiled in this regard, because besides the fat bloke there have been local versions of this in German WD and those were not phony or, uhm, corporate at all, featuring stuff like a female avatar of Khaine in high-heels and guardsmen ith suspiciously pointy hats and command staff member with a grinning mouth and antlers Using unusual units and conversions has a net benefit for sales I bet, even if someone was going cheapskate and turns Joe Tactical into a chapter master. You could sell him another tac squad for a command unit instead of no command or maybe an official captain mini.
If the ethos of "draw only existing models in their actual poses" carries in the hobby articles...well, the painting guides better be awesome.
Chikout wrote: Seriously? It is an article about Knights. How dare they use the word Knight a lot! It is a bit grandiose, but that is the 40k style. My favourite content ever in white dwarf was the index astartes stuff (in which I am pretty sure they said the words 'space marine' a lot). This reminds me of that. If it is half as good as that I will be happy.
I'm not sure you really are getting what I am saying. It's about how you use the English language. It has the sound like a barking dog. Short sharp sentences that are linked together structurally rather than through using specific nouns (or similar adjectives and adverbs). The only time you generally repeat the same words is when you are trying to get a specific word across and then you only do it once or twice. If you continue doing it over and over then you do end up with a 'barking dog' effect and very similar to how young children use to be taught (not sure if its the same way now) i.e The dog sat on the mat; the dog ate the cat; the dog slept at night etc etc. Memory by repetition. Hence its not a natural way to speak and is therefore here being done deliberately to highlight those specific words. A good example is this paragraph I've just written. I only used the wording "English language" once (except just now to, as I said, reiterate the point) however you know the context and what it all refers to.
I've read a bunch of pages, but still have some questions:
1) Do subscribers get any additional bonus from those who just buy the issues one-off? I.E. - is there a special subscriber bonus gift?
2) Will I get all the free bonus items in the first four issues just be buying the store copies? I heard that the first four issues will have bonuses (miniatures, etc.). I'd rather not be locked in for a year. And the $10 discount is no longer around. If I can just buy them in the store (or order off the webpage), what is the drawback?
Buying in store is high risk as anything with a free mini is very likely to sell out fast,
the issue with the free AoS Stormcast was gone within minutes of most places opening
as far as I know this is no bonus subscription gift (other than it being cheaper than buying issue by issue),
and if you can actually get them in store you'll get everything that comes with each issue (although people shoplifting the stuff off a magazine cover is not unusual either)
buying single issues online usually comes with the problem of having to pay for postage too
The saving and getting it delivered to your home. The latter though was a quite disappointing affair with my former Visions sub, the mags were always late, about ~14 days. This may be a european problem and caused by GW's paranoia of early leaks. But in general they do not send out product early enough to arrive at the day of release or earlier as advertised on their webshop. Others may have made more positive experiences but except for the subscription I would never buy something again directly from GW that I want to get as early as possible.
Mezmaron wrote: I've read a bunch of pages, but still have some questions:
1) Do subscribers get any additional bonus from those who just buy the issues one-off? I.E. - is there a special subscriber bonus gift?
2) Will I get all the free bonus items in the first four issues just be buying the store copies? I heard that the first four issues will have bonuses (miniatures, etc.). I'd rather not be locked in for a year. And the $10 discount is no longer around. If I can just buy them in the store (or order off the webpage), what is the drawback?
Thanks!
Mez
I also believe that subscribers will receive the magazine a couple days early, but don't quote me on that.
Warhams-77 wrote: The saving and getting it delivered to your home. The latter though was a quite disappointing affair with my former Visions sub, the mags were always late, about ~14 days. This may be a european problem and caused by GW's paranoia of early leaks. But in general they do not send out product early enough to arrive at the day of release or earlier as advertised on their webshop. Others may have made more positive experiences but except for the subscription I would never buy something again directly from GW that I want to get as early as possible.
Fortunately it never seemed to be a UK problem. As far as I'm aware, all of my Visions arrived on release day (my get out clause is that, due to work, I was quite often nowhere near home on release day).
I haven't bought white dwarf for years, but at £50 for a year the preorder was cheap enough to try.
These days, figure painter magazine has been my main read, so having a physical book will be something new again.
With the likes of epic and others coming out in the future, I think |'ll get my money's worth out of this years sub, I'm hoping for something like fat blokes white dwarf. That was still quite adverty even if some have a bit of a rose tinted view of it, but it had humour and that made all the difference. These last few years its all been a bit dry and taking itself far too seriously. That goes for the company too.
Looking forward to new WD from what GW social media/apps has given so far. Let's give it a chance, at least two issues, to see how it turns out, eh? From everything it sounds like it's not a product catalog without content.
nice!!!
i look forward to reading the Deathwatch design article...
i always enjoyed those, and am interested in the brief behind the new mkviii armor pattern...
they did a great job on them
on Saturday i get my Watch Commander, and then a week later, the new mag...
life is good
H.B.M.C. wrote: So I can just order this one issue from the webstore, right?
[EDIT]: Wait, what the fething feth?
No GW. That's a slayer you've painted white.
They even say in its description that it's just a repackaged version of a model they're still selling. For a limited time spend the same amount of money for a round base and a different paint scheme on the box art.
Certainly nothing terrible but it just screams of a wasted opportunity... Especially since they used to make a new model representing Grombrindal every year.
The new white dwarf mini is extremely disappointing, especially when some of the previous versions were so good. If that was a free mini for subscribers it would be a little more understandable, but as it stands it has actually soured me on the magazine a little.
Chikout wrote: The new white dwarf mini is extremely disappointing, especially when some of the previous versions were so good. If that was a free mini for subscribers it would be a little more understandable, but as it stands it has actually soured me on the magazine a little.
i am actually of the opposite opinion...
if i had paid for a full year, and this was my freebie, i'd be pissed...
for the price of one issue, i can be a lot more forgiving...
still not very exciting, though...
the concept of wanting to throw a free mini in the trash, rather than stick it in a drawer, or give it to a friend, is completely baffling to me...
a free mini is always a good thing...
Seems to be more "bitter internet complaining for the sake of complaining" coupled with a narrow and self-centred worldview than anything realistic to me. Particularly since it's been explained more than once how easy it would be to turn that figure into a 40k chaos model. Note all of the bs about shipping costs and attempting to turn a profit. No, tneva just likes to hear the sound of his own voice complaining loudly about AoS while he trolls us and gaks on GW doing something positive.
Dunno. First magazine seems to have zero hobby content that would be useful for me so won't buy it. Maybe 2nd magazine will have something but if it's more AOS trash only or board games I don't have then pass until there's SOMETHING for 40k that's not just ads for latest releases.
Don't buy it. Don't even look at it. Don't bother considering to buy any future issue. Go do something productive with your time instead.
Or perhaps don't feel obliged to go on and on and fething on for 19 out of 20 posts in this thread about how you don't like and aren't going to buy something. At a certain point, you're just trolling.
Also if you want to get into competition painting it's a nice piece to work on as a 40k player as you won't be tempted to use it as a gaming piece later on. Paint it to the best of your ability and enter it into some competitions :-)
Bottle wrote: Also if you want to get into competition painting it's a nice piece to work on as a 40k player as you won't be tempted to use it as a gaming piece later on. Paint it to the best of your ability and enter it into some competitions :-)
Trust me. I'll never be at painting competition standard.
The White Dwarf should have a pint of ale in one hand at least. The other day I found my dwarf figure from a visit to Nottingham HQ, standing on barrels waving drinks around.
Is the Khorne figure a magazine exclusive or something acailable elsewhere?
I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!
NidLifeCrisis wrote: I just choked up a bit, seeing that the covers are going back to being actual artwork! I get the feeling that there is a lot of nostalgia behind the current changes going on at GW, which is super fine by me!
To be fair, they had artwork on the weekly stuff. Not as often, but they did occasionally have artwork on the cover. Archaon on his chimera- dragon mount thing for example.
Bottle wrote: Also if you want to get into competition painting it's a nice piece to work on as a 40k player as you won't be tempted to use it as a gaming piece later on. Paint it to the best of your ability and enter it into some competitions :-)
Trust me. I'll never be at painting competition standard.
Still a good point though.
Even if it's not Golden Deamon, it would be a great model to enter into a store competition and have an excuse to pull out all the stops on :-)
A couple of tidbits have me puzzled. Kharn and the traitors hate book are up for preorder next weekend. Gorechosen is up for preorder properly on the 17th. Both are in this white dwarf. Future white dwarfs will release on the last Friday of the month.
So if the magazine really is looking back on the previous months releases, the October issue will have just two weeks to cover. That seems a little strange.
Good questions, Chikout. There were no WDW and Vision in August and this being a #1 could have resulted in an strange, irregular mix of products known and unknown. But it looks like they will still have a week or two of 'big release of the month'-thingies we will only see when the issue gets leaked/released plus stuff we could already buy at that point. I also think the magazine will loose part of its preview-job to the Facebook and Warhammer TV team (similiar to the retroperspective of Visions) which allows them to actually add new game content and hobby articles instead.
