A battlefield is no place for a Discman to listen to your archaic music :p
Look at the dirty floor, it is a roomba he is deploying. If you can hear music it is only because it is DJ Roomba
As it's Spanish, it's probably a greatest hits disc of Venga Boys. It goes off in anyone comes near it, ends with the combatants falling to the ground in tears with their ears bleeding.
Hunh? How did you miss making a Los del Río reference? ( I think that their song Macarena would make a potent sonic weapon.)
Bear in mind that Roombas will eventually be "Intelligent" enough to figure out the source of all the dirt --Us-- and eliminate the problem at the source. #RobotUprising
That is a fine mini indeed, but the TREQ is meh. Looks like it could be readily removed though, so his foot is in the air... a shout out to the current Spektr Snipr...
I'll have to be the lone dissenting voice and say I find that Spektr uninspiring. He seems particularly plain IMO compared with recently release figs this half of the year. YMMV. I can't recall what scifi it was (40k? a movie? a book?) but there was something that I read in which one race always has a single person vote no in their ruling body to make sure a vote is never unanimous and that someone is always looking for the too good to be true "catch". I guess I'll be that guy this time in the thread.
warboss wrote: I'll have to be the lone dissenting voice and say I find that Spektr uninspiring. He seems particularly plain IMO compared with recently release figs this half of the year. YMMV. I can't recall what scifi it was (40k? a movie? a book?) but there was something that I read in which one race always has a single person vote no in their ruling body to make sure a vote is never unanimous and that someone is always looking for the too good to be true "catch". I guess I'll be that guy this time in the thread.
That would be the Israeli government in World War Z. The same book/movie that depicts the Israeli government as warm and embracing, that lets everybody inside a wall... Oh the irony...
warboss wrote: I'll have to be the lone dissenting voice and say I find that Spektr uninspiring. He seems particularly plain IMO compared with recently release figs this half of the year. YMMV. I can't recall what scifi it was (40k? a movie? a book?) but there was something that I read in which one race always has a single person vote no in their ruling body to make sure a vote is never unanimous and that someone is always looking for the too good to be true "catch". I guess I'll be that guy this time in the thread.
That might be a reference to the ancient rules of the Sanhedrin (the institution of the Judiciary in traditional Jewish religious law): one of the (many) notable differences between Jewish and Christian jurisprudence is that in capitol (that is, death penalty) cases a decision must have a dissenter.
I imagine that has been lifted for use in fiction more then once.
That would be the Israeli government in World War Z. The same book/movie that depicts the Israeli government as warm and embracing, that lets everybody inside a wall... Oh the irony...
See, there we go. That makes sense (that Brooks lifted the traditional rules of the Sanhedrin for his fictional Israel, not the peacenik wish fulfillment part. That was always silly).
warboss wrote: I'll have to be the lone dissenting voice and say I find that Spektr uninspiring. He seems particularly plain IMO compared with recently release figs this half of the year. YMMV. I can't recall what scifi it was (40k? a movie? a book?) but there was something that I read in which one race always has a single person vote no in their ruling body to make sure a vote is never unanimous and that someone is always looking for the too good to be true "catch". I guess I'll be that guy this time in the thread.
That might be a reference to the ancient rules of the Sanhedrin (the institution of the Judiciary in traditional Jewish religious law): one of the (many) notable differences between Jewish and Christian jurisprudence is that in capitol (that is, death penalty) cases a decision must have a dissenter.
I imagine that has been lifted for use in fiction more then once.
That would be the Israeli government in World War Z. The same book/movie that depicts the Israeli government as warm and embracing, that lets everybody inside a wall... Oh the irony...
See, there we go. That makes sense (that Brooks lifted the traditional rules of the Sanhedrin for his fictional Israel, not the peacenik wish fulfillment part. That was always silly).
Thanks for the double clarification, Zewrath and Buzzsaw! I don't think I ever would have recalled the source myself as World War Z.
Yeah, it is a limited edition Jeanne D'Arc, one that comes with Giraldez's book. However, I suspect that like all limited edition minis that we have seen, when CB releases the regular edition Jeanne D'Arc, it will be the same body, and possibly the same or differing head, and/or with differing arms. CB has done this quite a bit with the "LE" minis that will also get a regular release. ( the *LE* cosplay bolt, the LE Van Sant, etc.) So if you cannot get this mini, you'll be able to get one very, very close to it eventually.
The Father Knight is one of the single hardest models in the Pan Oceania arsenal. Whether AVA 2 in a basic force or AVA 3 in Military Orders, this ARM 5, BTS 9 model can take everything that can be dished out at him.
Available for the first time as an individual model, the Father Knight Spitfire will get a lot of work done in any Pan O force!
MILITARY ORDER FATHER-KNIGHTS
"Father-Knights are one of the most prominent staples of the PanOceanian forces, always leading the charge - whether surrounded by the regular army or their own Military Orders. Each an ordained priest, they have received intensive combat training and are renowned as expert tactical support and close-quarters combatants. When deployed alongside regular forces, they provide PanOceanian soldiers with much-needed moral support. Father-Knights are shepherds of men, and they know how to lead troops into the fray. They look them in the eye and persuade them to go beat up the enemy because that is what God wants, because it is the right thing to do, and because it is their duty. And they do. With these warrior priests at the front of PanOceanian forces, victories are driven home and defeats turned into successes."
Yeah, SM heads would be way oversized there. something like hasslefree would be a much better fit. Gotta ask though: why the need to proxy/convert a De Fersen? That mini doesn't look *too* aged, does it?
As for desirable profile: it's been the spitfire that's seen most use around here. Hacker could be good too, I guess. Only PanO observers that really get played here seem to be auxilia (and one MO player with order sergeants, of course) - the rest just pales in comparison, bang/points wise.
Bolognesus wrote: Yeah, SM heads would be way oversized there. something like hasslefree would be a much better fit. Gotta ask though: why the need to proxy/convert a De Fersen? That mini doesn't look *too* aged, does it.
He's definitely not the same bulk as the new guys. As with all the scale stuff it will either bug you or it won't.
Bolognesus wrote: Yeah, SM heads would be way oversized there. something like hasslefree would be a much better fit. Gotta ask though: why the need to proxy/convert a De Fersen? That mini doesn't look *too* aged, does it.
He's definitely not the same bulk as the new guys. As with all the scale stuff it will either bug you or it won't.
Fair enough, hadn't really thought of it that way. it's a bloody good model but it does miss a little bulk in comparison to the new&shinies
It's easily justified by the fact that Gabriele de Fersen started his life as a "successful young programmer who enjoyed a life full of depravity and excess", who then joined the Order of the Temple (Templars) and paid for a combat implant (of Templar manufacture) that allowed him to "activate accelerated combat routines".
He's a geek who bought himself an implant that turns him into death on two legs. He's allowed to be weedy!
I watched the movies Hackers and Kung Fury, so I'm an expert when it comes to hacking. I'm sure Gabriele could just hack himself some muscle if he wanted to.
I love Father Knight Hacker. Definitely one of my main MVPs most games. Also, if your local PanOs aren't using Forwars Observers, then they must not being playing Military Orders, because the Forwars Observer Order Sergeants are pretty sweet as well.
I don't know if you guys have been paying atention to Infinity this week but A LOT of stuff has happened.
First, official FAQ.
So, this file has incredible detail on some rules. I was a bit impressed by some of the clarifications here:
Does the Regular Order used for a Coordinated Order
need to be from the same Combat Group as the
coordinated troopers? No. (OMG! So... you can have a 10 order combat Group and an 4 order secondary combat group... and make the 1st group spend 10 orders and 4 coordinated orders!)
Do Unconscious models count towards the (Combat Group) limit? Yes. Unconscious troopers are still part of their Combat
Group. (So, this means that you cannot transfer a Unit from Combat Group A to Combat Group B if there are already 10 concious/unconscious units in it, they have to be DEAD to leave the empty slot.)
More stuff... They are going to accept more Warcors requests!
So, if you are the usual guy from the community that is always teaching everyone How to Play INFINITY and organizing tournaments, NOW is the moment to tell CB:
-"Hey, I'm spending hours on my life in something that ultimately benefits you, I demand rewards for this!"
Next Monday they will be open to this.
Apart from this... Mayacast has announced some kind of official online Corvus Belli Campaign coordinated by Beasts of War with missions, fluff and prizes. The name for this is: Operation Flamestrike.
The December releases will be:
Spektr
Father Knight
USAriadna Starter Pack ( desperadoes are delayed)
Achilles with Hoplite Armour
And
Kerail preceptors with Simbiobeasts.
AduroT wrote: I love Father Knight Hacker. Definitely one of my main MVPs most games. Also, if your local PanOs aren't using Forwars Observers, then they must not being playing Military Orders, because the Forwars Observer Order Sergeants are pretty sweet as well.
Oh those they're using - as I said. FOHI though? Nah, take a hacker instead. Usually De Fersen if you're willing to spend the points on an HI specialist; WiP 14 is pretty damn good for any PanO list
(OTOH using military orders at all is a pretty good way to gimp yourself in ITS currently, or at least that's the general feeling around here.)
AduroT wrote: I love Father Knight Hacker. Definitely one of my main MVPs most games. Also, if your local PanOs aren't using Forwars Observers, then they must not being playing Military Orders, because the Forwars Observer Order Sergeants are pretty sweet as well.
Oh those they're using - as I said. FOHI though? Nah, take a hacker instead. Usually De Fersen if you're willing to spend the points on an HI specialist; WiP 14 is pretty damn good for any PanO list
(OTOH using military orders at all is a pretty good way to gimp yourself in ITS currently, or at least that's the general feeling around here.)
Military Orders has some Sweet specialists. If you want to screw over your ITS game, play Morats.
Infinity 10th Anniversary Christmas Draw
Infinity is 10 years old and we want to celebrate it with you all. First at all, with a special Christmas draw: One great pack with a full playable list of the upcoming CA sectorial, First Contact Onix Force!
To participate, you just need to comment on this Faceebook post, or on Twitter using the hashtag #Infinity10th, answering the following question: “Which one is your best 2015 Infinity miniature?”
You can participate until December 24th at 12:00 PM CET. We’ll announce the winner on Christmas Eve. Good luck to everyone!
So one would need a Facebook account for that giveway? Well, that's me disqualified. But at least I still have my pride... and privacy
The battlecats are very nice minis, but I am a bit leery that they have riders ( or whatever those things are). I think I would prefer that they be like Antipodes with a just a controller.
We get to see Jerkilles 2.0 soon enough. Who's pumped about that?
Red Harvest wrote: The battlecats are very nice minis, but I am a bit leery that they have riders ( or whatever those things are). I think I would prefer that they be like Antipodes with a just a controller.
They are. Those aren't riders, it's just a bad angle. They have a harness, but there's no saddle. The Kerail controls them, I assume through the harness. In fact, one of the rules they were looking at in playtesting was the Antiopode controller rules as well as G:Sync among others.
It'd be kinda cool if the Tohaa got a symbiobeast that looked like a giant beetle or bug. It could have wings and be an ADTAG. Maybe, because it's big enough, it'd create a template explosion at the point of impact on drop.
I hope you enjoyed my fantasy 100% original fan creation. Infinity doesn't have enough giant drop-beetles.
Absolutionis wrote:It'd be kinda cool if the Tohaa got a symbiobeast that looked like a giant beetle or bug. It could have wings and be an ADTAG. Maybe, because it's big enough, it'd create a template explosion at the point of impact on drop.
I hope you enjoyed my fantasy 100% original fan creation. Infinity doesn't have enough giant drop-beetles.
We see what you did there, and we love it!
And yes, that would be awesome!
PsychoticStorm wrote:It would, but I am afraid I have this suspicion that giant beetle TAGs would not sell well at all.
You'd be wrong.
Especially if it got the 'modern' Infinity Miniature Treatment.
PsychoticStorm wrote: It would, but I am afraid I have this suspicion that giant beetle TAGs would not sell well at all.
Because it would be a TAG? We know those are sooo popular these days Given the way the design team at CB has revamped the rest of Combined Army minis, I have no doubt they could amaze us with a revamped giant beetle TAG. They have adapted very well indeed to the digital designing.
The idea of battlecat cavalry for the Tohaa... shudder. Glad to hear that is not the case. Next question: why only 2 of them, and not, oh, I dunno, 3? The controller counts as the third?
I suppose maybe we see Jerkilles 2.0 after Christmas... perhaps on 28 December?
PsychoticStorm wrote: It would, but I am afraid I have this suspicion that giant beetle TAGs would not sell well at all.
Because it would be a TAG? We know those are sooo popular these days Given the way the design team at CB has revamped the rest of Combined Army minis, I have no doubt they could amaze us with a revamped giant beetle TAG. They have adapted very well indeed to the digital designing.
The idea of battlecat cavalry for the Tohaa... shudder. Glad to hear that is not the case. Next question: why only 2 of them, and not, oh, I dunno, 3? The controller counts as the third?
I suppose maybe we see Jerkilles 2.0 after Christmas... perhaps on 28 December?
It seems the Symbiobeasts will fill the niche of the big remotes like Lu Duans, Tsyklons and others.
One of them looks like it had an EVO repeater on its back though.
One of them looks like it had an EVO repeater on its back though.
While possible (I have no idea what a Tohaa EVO is meant to look like) that would be a big step for them, because Tohaa currently only have defensive hacking devices. We don't really know what EVO hacking devices will do in HSN3 though.
It'll give you new gadget programs if I recall Bostria's presentation correctly and if it retains it repeater trait in might be a really good choice in every Nomad force; especially with that coordinated hacking order allowance.
IIRC EVO hacking devices will actually be hacking devices in their own right, not additional ways to use existing hacking devices. So Remotes with EVO hacking devices will essentially be full on hackers with EVO devices.
Tristan228 wrote: So they'll lose the current boni they provide the army with?!
Assuming you mean bonus I would do a rundown of my version of pros/cons of this.
Old Rules
Pro - Can be hacked through by your hackers.
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers.
New Rules
Pro - Can be used as your 1 hacker in your list needed to unlock remotes (so yes, it unlocks itself)
Pro - Can use it's own order to hack, or move-hack, which could be very handy even outside of LOL situations.
Pro - It's own hacking programs may offer variety in your list, eg a Defensive Hacker + Assault Hacker, as opposed to 2 Assault Hackers.
Pro - Can be hacked through by your other hackers (hopefully this remains)
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers (if the above remains and if not then the Con becomes Cannot be hacked through by your other hackers.)
Tristan228 wrote: So they'll lose the current boni they provide the army with?!
Assuming you mean bonus I would do a rundown of my version of pros/cons of this.
Old Rules
Pro - Can be hacked through by your hackers.
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers.
New Rules
Pro - Can be used as your 1 hacker in your list needed to unlock remotes (so yes, it unlocks itself)
Pro - Can use it's own order to hack, or move-hack, which could be very handy even outside of LOL situations.
Pro - It's own hacking programs may offer variety in your list, eg a Defensive Hacker + Assault Hacker, as opposed to 2 Assault Hackers.
Pro - Can be hacked through by your other hackers (hopefully this remains)
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers (if the above remains and if not then the Con becomes Cannot be hacked through by your other hackers.)
In the current Version, which I think you mean with "old", the EVO still gives you bonuses like
you can coose where a hacked enemy AD troop will land
you get a +3 to the PH roll of your AD troop whilst landing (not stackable with Gadget-1 Controlled Jump)
you can spend a Command Token to reroll a failed hacking attack
it improves the Sat-Lock attack to a WIP -3
-Loki- wrote:Unsure. All we know is they showed this.
Which implies that it's going to be a full hacking device in its own right, but there's some bonuses there.
After seening it's programs I doubt it'll keep the aforementiont bonuses but it mitght enable a coordinated hacking attack with Upgrade TeamPro.
Tristan228 wrote: So they'll lose the current boni they provide the army with?!
Assuming you mean bonus I would do a rundown of my version of pros/cons of this.
Old Rules
Pro - Can be hacked through by your hackers.
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers.
New Rules
Pro - Can be used as your 1 hacker in your list needed to unlock remotes (so yes, it unlocks itself)
Pro - Can use it's own order to hack, or move-hack, which could be very handy even outside of LOL situations.
Pro - It's own hacking programs may offer variety in your list, eg a Defensive Hacker + Assault Hacker, as opposed to 2 Assault Hackers.
Pro - Can be hacked through by your other hackers (hopefully this remains)
Con - Can be hacked through by opposing hackers (if the above remains and if not then the Con becomes Cannot be hacked through by your other hackers.)
In the current Version, which I think you mean with "old", the EVO still gives you bonuses like
you can coose where a hacked enemy AD troop will land
you get a +3 to the PH roll of your AD troop whilst landing (not stackable with Gadget-1 Controlled Jump)
you can spend a Command Token to reroll a failed hacking attack
it improves the Sat-Lock attack to a WIP -3
-Loki- wrote:Unsure. All we know is they showed this.
Which implies that it's going to be a full hacking device in its own right, but there's some bonuses there.
After seening it's programs I doubt it'll keep the aforementiont bonuses but it mitght enable a coordinated hacking attack with Upgrade TeamPro.
you can coose where a hacked enemy AD troop will land
It'll probably lose this. They've been making a lot of changes to AD as a whole.
you get a +3 to the PH roll of your AD troop whilst landing (not stackable with Gadget-1 Controlled Jump)
Yes, this is likely being replaced entirely with Gadget-1 Controlled Jum, as it's on the program list.
you can spend a Command Token to reroll a failed hacking attack
I wouldn't count this out. The list only showed the programs it has access to. I'm sure there will be a few more things to add to the list for command tokens in HSN3, and this may be among them. Would make sense.
it improves the Sat-Lock attack to a WIP -3
Seems likely this will go, but you never know.
Hacking as a whole got expanded, so I'd guess EVO devices will get a good doing over. Again, all that list shows is the programs an EVO device has access to.
And here's an image of new Achilles. He seems to come with an alternate head and weapon option.
Edit was to include a rehost of the photo so workblock might not be an issue for some.
Think I'm going to do a "Kanluwen" and say it looks terrible, bland uninspiring pose with a cheesy concept... Possibly sprinkles of complaints about scale creep but not sure.
In seriousness, poor model 3/10 for sculpting and painting effort.
Brad Pitt might look awesome, Jerkilles does not. I just don't like that Space Marine-ish posing. That's so grim and dark 40000 not the gleaming future of Infinity
What could the Pulzar of the Symbiobeats do? Something like an 8" E/M weapon without LOF in analogy to the repeater of the most Remotes?
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Do we think that the trophy was the new Morat sculpt Angel was working on?
No. He said he's actually working on a new Morat unit, and Bostria has confirmed that the sniper shot we saw a month or so ago was for a new Morat unit as well.
(Infinity News thread with some actual news in it? Hooray!)
Kerail Preceptors are the easy winners for me this month, lovely looking trio of models! The studio paint jobs are really, really eyecatching too.
At first glance I really like the look of the Ranger Force having not paid much attention to US Ariadna yet but then at least two of them look a bit bored or are posing at a convention for photos or something. I'm a sucker for action poses or at least that the unit in question is interacting with the environment, or looks alert at least!
New Achillies hasn't blown me away either. Why give him the Brad Pitt treatment? Makes it look instantly naff, for me. I can understand it might make the model for someone else, though. Helmeted headswap is a straightforward fix but I'll stick with the old one, ta.
Owning the USARF stuff myself, I can tell you that the two most bored looking models(the Foxtrot Ranger and the female Grunt) are actually the two most dynamic in the box!
The Foxtrot is meant to be used as a Forward Observer, and has his radio to his mouth.
The female Grunt is actually mid-reload, with her one arm pulling a fresh magazine from a leg pouch.
Would love the limited and non limited gear for Achilles, so I could magnetise the space monkey head for fighting morats and go double sword ray of the time.
I'm ok with the Brad Pitt model and definitely prefer the weapons only version. Is the whole holding up a severed head thing specific to the Troy movie? I saw it long ago but don't recall that specifically.
I prefer the exclusive head, but I simply cannot stand severed heads or blood splattered weapons, I have never seen an instance that doesn't look naff. (too many years working at a GW and seeing every 11-year-old's army awash with 2-3 pots of Blood Red, or whatever TM-able name it has now) Hopefully the head will be separate and easy to swap (or simply replace).
-Loki- wrote: Unsure. All we know is they showed this.
Which implies that it's going to be a full hacking device in its own right, but there's some bonuses there.
I saw this a while ago. Those upgrades are new too, so that'll be 29 hacking programs.
Father-Knight and Spektr win the month. I think it has as much to do with the official paint scheme as it does anything else.
Jerkilles. Okay. Recall if you will the Dire Foes sculpt of Angus. If you think about it, you may come to the conclusion that it is really the perfect pose for a tool like Angus. The same thing here with Jerkilles. This is exactly how a braying *donkey-cave* should look. The sculptor nailed it in one One quibbble: the severed head should be an Avatar's, not a Morat's. ( Remember the Campaign-Paradiso story?)
I really dig that general release Achilles. The Homeridae are as much propaganda pieces as they are warriors and that looks like something straight out of a poster. Just whipped this up as an example:
Nice poster. So the two different Achilles models shown are two completely separate things? Not extra arms in a box? I was gonna say one with two swords woulda looked cool
I think he looks fine.
I like the spektr. I just wonder why he's up on such a large tactical...item... if he's planning on laying a mine?
GrimDork wrote: Nice poster. So the two different Achilles models shown are two completely separate things? Not extra arms in a box? I was gonna say one with two swords woulda looked cool
Apparently it's two models in one box, from what Beasts of War was implying.
Exact details aren't known yet though. It could be a "splash" release for the time being.
GrimDork wrote: So, not terribly familiar with aleph, can you field that guy twice? My vote for two swords returns.
You cannot field any character twice.
BUT you can field Patroclus, who if you remember the Trojan War mythos, took Achilles' armor and led the Myrmidons against the Trojans.
Patroclus is a character that can be fielded and has holoprojector, allowing you to 'disguise' him as Achilles--and this actually gives you a pretty fun way of doing so.
But you'll basically waste points, at least in a tournament.
Also Patroclus will have no use of his ODD for one order which propably will be fatal for him.
The new stats for Achilles in Hoplite armor. Must say that I find his profile very intimidating, especially the forward deployment on top of his already scary profile.
Not an Aleph player and not a fan of their aesthetic , but I really like the look of Achilles, and his stats are scary. He shall be the top of my hitlist.
The Kerail profiles are a bit weird in that you can't actually take what you get in the box... You can't take one Kerail with both types of beast and you don't get two Kerails to take one with each type of beast.
ImAGeek wrote: The Kerail profiles are a bit weird in that you can't actually take what you get in the box... You can't take one Kerail with both types of beast and you don't get two Kerails to take one with each type of beast.
It's not that weird when you take into consideration that this allows them to release a blister of just a Preceptor with one of the alternate loadouts.
ImAGeek wrote: The Kerail profiles are a bit weird in that you can't actually take what you get in the box... You can't take one Kerail with both types of beast and you don't get two Kerails to take one with each type of beast.
It's not that weird when you take into consideration that this allows them to release a blister of just a Preceptor with one of the alternate loadouts.
Yeah, they could've just included another load out in the box though. You can't even take the Surda beast from the box without proxying, as the Kerails with Surdas don't come with LSGs.
It's not an issue or anything like that, it just seems a little odd.
To be fair, Achilles was the first named Aleph character released, and he's always been the shortest of them all. For all his superhero status as the best creation of the Myrmidon project, it's weird to field him.
At least this new model gives us an Achilles that hits his legend. Only Ajax should stand taller than Achilles, and for good reason.
Absolutionis wrote: To be fair, Achilles was the first named Aleph character released, and he's always been the shortest of them all. For all his superhero status as the best creation of the Myrmidon project, it's weird to field him.
At least this new model gives us an Achilles that hits his legend. Only Ajax should stand taller than Achilles, and for good reason.
Looking at that, and how Achilles V1 compares with Ajax, I don't actually think that Ajax does stand taller.
Achilles V2 is an S5 model (and a tall one) on an S2 base.
Its the same thing as that Azra'il or whatever you call the big-arse power armored Haq unit. The first guy was tiny despite fluff, and now they've done it 'right'. If he's supposed to be a super human than larger than life proportions seem appropriate to me.
Absolutionis wrote: To be fair, Achilles was the first named Aleph character released, and he's always been the shortest of them all. For all his superhero status as the best creation of the Myrmidon project, it's weird to field him.
At least this new model gives us an Achilles that hits his legend. Only Ajax should stand taller than Achilles, and for good reason.
Looking at that, and how Achilles V1 compares with Ajax, I don't actually think that Ajax does stand taller.
Achilles V2 is an S5 model (and a tall one) on an S2 base.
New Achilles has more wounds and better armor than Ajax. Brad Pitt probably should be bigger with those crazy stats.
GrimDork wrote: Its the same thing as that Azra'il or whatever you call the big-arse power armored Haq unit. The first guy was tiny despite fluff, and now they've done it 'right'. If he's supposed to be a super human than larger than life proportions seem appropriate to me.
Azra'il should be bigger. The old models were iconic Haqq HI, but the new ones reflect their role batter.
ImAGeek wrote: The Kerail profiles are a bit weird in that you can't actually take what you get in the box... You can't take one Kerail with both types of beast and you don't get two Kerails to take one with each type of beast.
Hehe, oops.
I'll still grab them since I don't have an issue proxying, but I think this is a clear example of playtesting done wrong.
They said for that they were still playtesting the unit last month. So it's very likely that when they designed the box, it was legal, but during playtesting and fiddling around with it, it became an illegal combination, but too late in the production process to change anything.
That said, they should have designed the beasts the way they do remotes, with the same base model, and add on guns. Then pack enough guns to equip both, so you could decide how to do them. Doesn't solve the issue with the Kerail, but it would have solved the issue with the beasts.
Noir wrote: He got the monkey treatment, bigger but same Silhouette.
But, now I can see him choking out an Avatar.
Ok that I will admit is true.
Something always funny tho when a tiny model takes out a giant beast... Like my WHFB dwarf lord on foot slaying a carnosaur
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plastictrees wrote: Im not even sure if CB think in terms of playable units when they put their boxes together. It's not the sole consideration anyway.
I'm ok with buying boxes that might include one or two models I'm not likely to use.
Am I likely to use a mobile brigada link team of 4-5 guys? Never, but I do want all of those models because they're dope.
As long as the models look good I'm ok with this newer standard. Some of their newer boxes were underwhelming though partly because CB forced themselves to squeeze out 4 different sculpts.
Achilles v2 is the same height as an Umbra Legate. This is still fine considering Achilles is supposed to be literally the posterboy for Aleph. Let him stand toe-to-toe with his mortal enemy.
He is named after/supposed to be a mortal/immortal hero, the size works perfectly. He also fits in a lot better than he used to.
I much like both his face and poses. I'm not sure if it is really modeled after Brad Pitt as it just looks like a blonde hero, but the modeling is great. I personally like parody characters as I am a huge movie fan (what made zombicide so attractive).
I have ordered two sets! Keep up the good work CB, looks like I am starting a new army now
I find that I like much of the anime-influence models *and* the harder scifi look as well. Not that really awkwardly posed Aleph lady though, gawd.
Achilles 2.0 seems pretty awesome actually. I like the photo, he's all "Hey I got a head of one of your guys, what now" and the Legate is like "Shrug, we've got an entire *race* of those, so good luck with that". I still need to source a proper light saber for the Legate, he really *needs* one.
@caylentor Cheers I may have to make an order, got some Imperial assault that could use them too. The umbra legate just...*needs*...a light saber though.
The celebrity nods are getting tedious.
Bring it back to the anime influence.
Spoiler:
No. God no.
You don't like the Chimera and Pupniks? Some of my favorite models.
To be more serious there isn't much that CB releases that I don't like.
I actually think the Chimera is a very pretty model, it's just that I'm biased against any anime furry as I find the concept appalling. xD
*hides all Bakunin minis that I secretly own*
The Chimera is one of the best minis out there. All the pupniks are great.
The lollipop is good because its a POSE. Something CB has missed recently. Everything doesn't need to be tough as nails troops.
The new Nomads releases have been such hardcore PMO stuff.
I hope at least one of the new TAGs coming out has a cool anime look to it, not some static wooden robot like all the others we've seen recently. Any new rendition of the Szalamandra will have a high bar set because that's a tremendous mini already.
PsychoticStorm wrote: I have to remind the recent Nomad releases come from the military branch, they are tough as nails troops, the troops you mention come from Bakunin.
I get that. Bakunin is home to all things ridiculous.
However, I don't mean the cheesey stuff we usually see in Bakunin. For example, the antennae on the new mobile brigada; a nice touch.
I hope any new Spektre or Zeroes on the way have more character in their poses (new land mine Spektre is OK at best) because the models they'd be replacing are classics of the Infinity range.
I liked some of the oddball stuff in the older Nomad minis. Like the sniper Alguacil with a little critter on her shoulder; awesome stuff.
The Szalamandra, a rather serious model, ought to have that same anime aesthetic to it if/when they update it.
PsychoticStorm wrote: I have to remind the recent Nomad releases come from the military branch, they are tough as nails troops, the troops you mention come from Bakunin.
I get that. Bakunin is home to all things ridiculous.
However, I don't mean the cheesey stuff we usually see in Bakunin. For example, the antennae on the new mobile brigada; a nice touch.
I hope any new Spektre or Zeroes on the way have more character in their poses (new land mine Spektre is OK at best) because the models they'd be replacing are classics of the Infinity range.
I liked some of the oddball stuff in the older Nomad minis. Like the sniper Alguacil with a little critter on her shoulder; awesome stuff.
The Szalamandra, a rather serious model, ought to have that same anime aesthetic to it if/when they update it.
Completely agree. There are so many generic sci-fi models out there, but the anime aesthetic is what made Infinity stand out for me. The examples posted above [Daktari, Chimera] are some of my favourite models, as well as things like Krazy Koalas and Fast Pandas. Hopefully CB continues to not take itself too seriously. I remember with fondness the days when GW used to have a sense of humour [before it all went GRIMDARK].
This is where I point out to all you newcomers that the Catgirl Daktari mini is Corvus Belli's all time best selling miniature, or was for a long time. I do not know if it retains the top spot anymore. The anime influences are not going away, because those minis sell well.
The lollipop moderator is the best of the moderators, IMHO. If/when the Moderators get resculpts, I do hope CB keeps that mini. All it really needs is a proper sized gun. Or keep the gun size the same, and enlarge the mini ( The more likely outcome, eh?)
Still no rumors about this months releases apart from something Morat?
Anime is undoubtedly a big part of the Infinity DNA; robot suits and off-tangent weirdness all included. We're going to keep getting miniatures like that, just how it is. In the same way that 40k would be unthinkable without shoulder pads and screaming bald men
Agree that the Chimera + Pupniks are one of the coolest sets CB has released, so much character in each mini and great fun to paint even if you don't collect Nomads.
Red Harvest wrote: This is where I point out to all you newcomers that the Catgirl Daktari mini is Corvus Belli's all time best selling miniature, or was for a long time. I do not know if it retains the top spot anymore. The anime influences are not going away, because those minis sell well.
Putting it bluntly, that was something I always questioned.
What is a "best selling miniature" if it doesn't actually sell for the miniature game you promote/sell? It was a one-off curiosity that would show up often in people's painting collections as "anime sexy catgirl" or something like that.
Best selling is quite simple - it sold the most units. Why it was best selling is hard to pin down because you don't fill out a survey every time you buy a miniature.
Pacific wrote: Anime is undoubtedly a big part of the Infinity DNA; robot suits and off-tangent weirdness all included. We're going to keep getting miniatures like that, just how it is. In the same way that 40k would be unthinkable without shoulder pads and screaming bald men
Agree that the Chimera + Pupniks are one of the coolest sets CB has released, so much character in each mini and great fun to paint even if you don't collect Nomads.
The HI also need to keep their anime influence.
Many of those anime-esc heavies have become generic power armored troops.
-Loki- wrote: Those are some weirdly shaped goalposts.
Best selling is quite simple - it sold the most units. Why it was best selling is hard to pin down because you don't fill out a survey every time you buy a miniature.
Is it really that strange though?
If you're going to let those kinds of things affect what you do for your aesthetic designs and the like, it is something that should have attention paid to it.
Did it affect their aesthetic? Recently it's moved in entirely the opposite direction. Cheesecake and anime influences have almost disappeared. Even after they announced it, the aesthetic didn't take a marked shift towards anime chessecake, not any more than it already was at the time.
However, all CB did was say it was their top selling miniature. I don't recall them ever saying they knew why, or that it would help them direct the rest of the ranges aesthetic. it was just something on a slide at gencon telling people it was their best seller. The community are the ones that started attributing reasons to it.
Pacific wrote: Anime is undoubtedly a big part of the Infinity DNA; robot suits and off-tangent weirdness all included. We're going to keep getting miniatures like that, just how it is. In the same way that 40k would be unthinkable without shoulder pads and screaming bald men
Agree that the Chimera + Pupniks are one of the coolest sets CB has released, so much character in each mini and great fun to paint even if you don't collect Nomads.
The HI also need to keep their anime influence.
Many of those anime-esc heavies have become generic power armored troops.
I'd say the Brigadas went the exact opposite direction. They went from being extremely generic to full on anime. And you can't tell me that you don't get an anime vibe from the Azra'il? Or stuff like the recent Batroids? The influence is still there, just a bit more toned down and less obvious, is all. And remember, not all anime stuff looks like Astroboy, or Pokemon, or Appleseed. Look at the two most recent Gundam shows. The mecha designs have been very different from their norm. My point is, the anime influence is still present, they're probably just getting their influence from more modern stuff as opposed to the 80s sci-fi anime they'd been using before.
But, this is all getting pretty off topic, isn't it?
Does any one have any really good examples of the anime influence? As I'm not seeing it at all in the stuff I've seen, though it could just be that i haven't see the really old stuff.
methebest wrote: Does any one have any really good examples of the anime influence? As I'm not seeing it at all in the stuff I've seen, though it could just be that i haven't see the really old stuff.
The original metal Guija was essentially a 80's/90's style Appleseed Landmate. (To the point where people will refer to that as the Landmate Guija...)
Look here: http://appleseed.wikia.com/wiki/Landmates Then do a Google Image search for "Infinity Guija".
I personally think Infinity is becoming more popular because they are reaching out into other 'genres' for aesthetics and influence besides the easier to understand rules.
They have made the minis more realistic and less cartoony/anime (I think most players would rather have a Van Zant or Achilles as they are now compared to their previous anime style). They have thrown in some characters that have parody type appeal for other genres/games/movies. The quality has escalated greatly due to the realistic approach and style.
Nothing wrong with anime or the style, but it does limit the market greatly. If you expand your horizons, you expand your sales base (which they have done).
I had to go looking at the official forums for this, since no one has posted it here ( That I could find. it could be hidden among all the chit-chat.) First time I've looked there since October, and first time I've glanced at one of those infernal speculation threads in ages. I'm cursing the lot of you. May you always roll '20's ( unless you are playing an RPG. Then roll '1's.)
Ariadna - Desperados
CA - Oznat with vulkan shotgun
Haqq - Govads
Yu-Jing - Hac Tao hacker
PanO - something no details
No idea about the accuracy of it. Wondering about the Govads, naturally. 'Twould be nice if the Pan-O was something for ASA.
No, not the sound, on the spelling, and on the Guijia being visually based on a Guges Landmate rather than one of the (many) other Landmate models in the original Appleseed books.
It's actually how I first came across Infinity 7-8 years ago, I was searching online for images of a Guges and the Guijia came up on the first page of results!
Back on topic, yes the Oznat Vulkan Shotgun is a new weapon option, no you're not going to see 6pt Bikers.
Tristan228 wrote: I aready had 6 point quasi-bikes in my last few games thanks to the Morlocks' Meta-Chemistry
Is it true that the only new Sectorials coming with N3HS are USAriadna and that Onyx Force? I heard some rumors about that.
I love those guys! Meta-Chemistry is the sole reason I field them 100% of the time when playing Vanilla. NWI, Dogged, Enhanced Physique, Enhanced Movement, Super Jump, heck even Reinforced Biotech or Bioimmunity is decent when facing Tohaa or nanopulser heavy lists. The amount of awesome rules that is in that table, combined with a unit that has a great melee statline along with smoke grenades for an offensively dirt cheap point cost is just fantastic! I litterally never had a game with them were they felt like wasted points, even if they just managed to throw 1 grenade or wasted an enemy order on shooting them, they are worth the cost. Easily one of the best WB units in the game for their cost.
Plus they look pretty cool. I still want to buy two boxes of them and another four or so moderators... build four as on the box, and make 8 unique dudes out of the other two batches of models. Not sure if I could really use 12 Morlocks though, but they'd look neat
B0B MaRlEy wrote:That's the 2 new ones, replacing the MRRF and the shavaasti (?) I think
Exactly, USARF and Onyx will replace these two Sectorials. But I thought there will be also additional ones, like White Banner, Svalarheima etc.
Zewrath wrote:I love those guys! Meta-Chemistry is the sole reason I field them 100% of the time when playing Vanilla. NWI, Dogged, Enhanced Physique, Enhanced Movement, Super Jump, heck even Reinforced Biotech or Bioimmunity is decent when facing Tohaa or nanopulser heavy lists. The amount of awesome rules that is in that table, combined with a unit that has a great melee statline along with smoke grenades for an offensively dirt cheap point cost is just fantastic! I litterally never had a game with them were they felt like wasted points, even if they just managed to throw 1 grenade or wasted an enemy order on shooting them, they are worth the cost. Easily one of the best WB units in the game for their cost.
Yeah, you get so much for so few points! But even with NWI and else they die pretty fast :(
GrimDork wrote:Plus they look pretty cool. I still want to buy two boxes of them and another four or so moderators... build four as on the box, and make 8 unique dudes out of the other two batches of models. Not sure if I could really use 12 Morlocks though, but they'd look neat
I had the plan to field a whole combat group of Morlocks but that failed because of my lack of enough models though
B0B MaRlEy wrote:That's the 2 new ones, replacing the MRRF and the shavaasti (?) I think
Exactly, USARF and Onyx will replace these two Sectorials. But I thought there will be also additional ones, like White Banner, Svalarheima etc.
Those are all slated for the next book.
So, long story short:
Before N3, the next book was slated to come out. N3 hit and wrecked that, then they said they were back to work on that.
Then they announced N3HS.
We don't know when the next book will hit at this point.
Maelstrom808 wrote: So when people are saying "replace" MRRF and Shavaasti, what exactly do you mean?
They've been pushed back to the next book (working title Acheron Falls) and instead USAriadna and Onyx Force are going to be included in Human Sphere for Ariadna and Combined Army.
It's just that those sectorials won't be re-worked like other sectorials that were in the original HS book and would be reworked in a later book instead.
They're not getting squatted if that's what you were afraid of (as far as we know at least)
But the sectorials are not disappearing as a useable force?
B0B MaRlEy wrote: It's just that those sectorials won't be re-worked like other sectorials that were in the original HS book and would be reworked in a later book instead.
They're not getting squatted if that's what you were afraid of (as far as we know at least)
Gotcha. I just started looking at MRRF and almost pulled the trigger on buying a bunch last night, so was a little worried.
Yeah, the MM DoTD for Infinity usually sells out before 9. 7-8 is pushing it. If I end up getting one, its usually because I saw it at 3 in the morning because the kids had me up, or I thought to check at six. Tags are even worse, those tend to evaporate before six even.
Spektr
Father Knight
USAriadna Starter Pack ( desperadoes are delayed)
Achilles with Hoplite Armour
Kerail preceptors with Simbiobeasts.
Who's pumped about that?
We know those are sooo popular these days 
Given the way the design team at 
